WEBVTT - Sara Markowitz Meets World 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.360 I have a question for both of you that kind 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.279 of pertains to our guests today. Do either one of 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:29.960 you have a very wardrobe specific story that's like an 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:32.159 embarrassing clothing. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.120 Story from your life? 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:34.560 Really? 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:35.280 All right? 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:40.159 The best is when I was doing Ley Miz for 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.640 some I have like two shoe stories about lay bits. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:46.199 They It was such a great part because I was 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:50.199 Gavroche and I had a couple of, you know, solo numbers. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.120 But then there were also huge sections of the play 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.480 where they just there would be main stuff going on 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.800 and we would just be running around. All us actors 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.040 would be in the background, and every night we would 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.440 stay in character and do different things, like we would 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.120 play out little scenes and like have little in jokes 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.240 like me and other actors and so at ten it 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:11.800 was the greatest because it was like every night we're 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.800 in front of an audience, but we're just playing make believe. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.399 So I'd be running around. Well, one time they resold 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.360 my shoes and didn't tell me, so I would get 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:22.600 I got dressed before the show and then we can't. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.360 The way Gavroche is introduced is I'm under a blanket 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.759 while these giant sets come on and the song started, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.280 and then I jump out of the blanket and run 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.280 up to the front of the stage land and jump 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.200 and go, how do you do? My name's GeV Rosch. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:37.640 And it's like this whole thing we're upsitting to the 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.679 audience where I get up and I run and just 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.760 right in front of the audience, completely fallow in my 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:46.440 ass like just you're bam. And then I was like 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.000 ha ha, and then I get trying to sing, get 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.560 up to my feet like really hurt myself, and I'm 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.720 trying to sing, and then I'm supposed to run this 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:57.640 figure eight around the set and then just immediately eat 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.080 it again, like I'm right after my song. I kept 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.320 tripping in front of the It was like the most 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:07.800 embarrassing thing. And then this other time, because they had 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.760 elastic shoelaces because you could you could tie them and 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.600 then just slip your shoes on and off or whatever. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:16.600 But my shoelaces came untied. And so there was a 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.160 section of the play where I'm back, I'm behind something 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.680 while Javert is singing Stars this great song Stars. And 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.320 then after his song is over, Gavroche like comes out 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.120 on this little ledge and says like that inspector thinks 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.160 he's something, but it's me who runs this town. Has 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.080 this little like diddy. So I had to sit I 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.720 always every night, I had to sit in the back 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.480 like by myself on this piece of the set, like 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.640 up high while the stars was going on, and my 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.960 shoelace had comeing tied. So I tied my shoes in 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.680 the dark while the song was going on. And then 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.320 I went out for my number, and I tied my 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:51.160 shoelaces together, so I immediately I'm on a ledge and 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.720 I'm walking out and I'm like and luckily they were 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.520 elastic so I could stretch just enough. But again I 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.399 almost fell off of like a second story in front 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.880 of the audience. Yeah shoes, Oh shoes, man shoes and 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:03.400 le miz. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.960 Wait, so the shoes they re sold? What was wrong 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.000 with the next one? They were just they weren't old, 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:09.320 so they weren't scuffed up on the bottom. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.520 They were so they were too smooth. They had like 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.640 resold them and they put and they didn't tell me 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.800 and they didn't scuff them up. So like, because I 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.320 like fell four or five times that night, the ward 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.560 person was like, oh, I'm so sorry, And then he 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.680 just took he like filed them down, like roofed them 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.520 up up. Yeah, because the set was actually like this 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:30.400 land it looked like cobblestone, but it wasn't real cobblestone. Obviously. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.000 It was a giant rotating stage and so they cover it. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.400 It's like to make it look like it has like 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:40.440 a It had like a plasticchine over it, like it 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.120 had like this laminate over it. So it was like 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.480 a very interesting smooth floor even though it looks rough 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.080 like cobblestone. So yeah, I just ate it. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.560 Wow, Wow, what about you will wardrobe? 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.040 Wi is the only one I can think of that 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.720 is for actually shooting something. I mean, when I was 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.400 a kid, I was told there was a toga party, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:03:59.600 and I went and I was the only one in 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:04.000 a toga that was Yeah, I started crying, were you 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:05.800 third grade? 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.360 I did, Well, it's because you don't. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.440 I was at camp And to make it worse, I 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.640 only had a fitted sheet, so I did I didn't you. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.599 Even have a regular toga sheet on? 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:21.760 I just had the fitted sheet, So like the cart 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.200 was like coming around my neck and. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.159 Liked or did you leave? 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.520 I finally well, again, it was in the middle of 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.039 So I was at camp and we'd have to go 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.120 back to our cabins to get dressed. So I like 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:35.560 walked to the party, which was at another cabin like 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.479 a half a mile away, and I got there and 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.000 everyone was like making fun of me because I was 0:04:39.000 --> 0:04:42.000 the only one. But I had the last laugh because 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.200 I walked back and I put on my brother's windbreaker 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.359 and my parachute pants and I went back and I 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.800 was the only one who could break dance, and I 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.560 had the whole crowd like clapping. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:52.280 By the end of the night. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.320 The girl at the camp it was like looking at 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.359 me and wanted to talk to me. Yeah, I really 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.640 I really pulled that night out. Yeah was I mean? 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:02.279 You said you cried? I really thought we were getting 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.400 a different story, and I cried at first, But then 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:10.880 you know, when like breakdance exactly what it comes down 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:18.080 to give you lemonss. But no the for an actual wardrobe. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.520 When we were doing Trojan War, the entire film takes 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.120 place in one night. That's the worst wear for months, 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.400 and at the beginning of the film, I'm first covered 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.560 in water and then covered in flower. So every night 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.560 I had to start shooting by putting on the same 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.480 nasty clothes and then them wetting me down and covering 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.200 me with flour. And that was for like twenty nights 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.240 in a row. We had to do that night after 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.760 night after night. So wardrobe wise, that one was. I mean, 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.560 by the end, it's like crusty and you're trying to 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.440 put on the jacket that's like nasty, and it's starting 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.479 to smell and it's Yeah, that was So that was 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.159 a fun one. But I didn't cry, and but I 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:56.080 also didn't break dance. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.279 You also didn't get the cool girl at the camp 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.800 in that one, But that's true. What about you, Well, 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.679 mine is not actually a wardrobe meaning like professional stuff. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:08.320 Mine is just a junior high school story. I had 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:10.640 lived in Orange County, and in Orange County at my 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:14.080 elementary school, we always got dressed up for the first 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.279 day of school, like the first day of school, you 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.640 wore something a little fancier than you would wear every 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:19.080 other day. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.000 I don't really know why. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.400 And Jessica and I, my best friend in elementary school, 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:25.880 used to go shopping together and we would pick an 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.520 outfit and we would usually like if not Matt, wear 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.160 the same thing like twins. We would color coordinate, we 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.480 would somehow connect our outfits. So I moved from Orange 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.560 County at the beginning of sixth grade, which is an 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.240 awkward time, like junior high is a terrible time anyway. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.680 But it was a new school. I didn't know anybody, 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.599 and I just assumed in nineteen ninety one or whatever 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.840 it was nineteen ninety that still people would probably people 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.960 would be getting dressed up for the first day of school. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.320 And I wore. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.520 I wore like a long sleeved pants and pants. 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:01.359 It was one outfit. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.839 It was like one piece and it was black and 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.039 it had little white flowers on it, and I wore 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:11.360 it with pantyhose and ballet flats. And I showed up 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.880 at a right middle school in Calabasas wearing this outfit, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.360 and everyone was so cool and cool at that time. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:24.000 Was a little on the grunge side. Yeah yeah, yeah, 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.160 like flannels tied around the waist, converse that were really 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.400 super beat up, a T shirt, and I was the 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:31.800 new girl in school. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.680 My hair was perfectly quaffed. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.679 I had this outfit on and everyone was just looking 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:38.560 at me as I was passing in the halls and 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.880 as I was walking to lunch a kid passed me 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:43.880 and said. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.800 What are you wearing? You look like you're going to 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:47.640 a funeral. 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:54.920 I was like, meanwhile, also, guys, my mom tried to 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.800 tell me. My mom as I was getting ready, She's like, Danielle, I. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:58.800 Don't think you should wear this. 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.160 I don't think I don't think anyone's going to be 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:03.640 dressed like this. And I was like, no, no, I 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:08.120 want to wear such an incredible mom. She was like, 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:09.880 I really don't think people are going to be dressing 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.160 like this. I don't think you should wear it. And 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:12.320 I was like, no, no, this is definitely what I 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.560 want to wear. I came home from school that day 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.960 and I was like, we need to go shopping. I 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.640 need a bunch of garbage clothes. And I went back 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.680 the next day like anyone else, like. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.160 Just exactly exactly. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.080 I think that's probably part of where my my PTSD 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.280 of just I must not have any style, because I 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.319 I was dressed like I was going to a funeral 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.360 in firs day of sixth grade. Man anyway, welcome to 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.840 Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fischel, I'm rather or Strong, 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:56.960 and I'm Wilfordell. It was no secret what we felt 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.760 about season one's wardrobe on Boy Meets World, and I 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.440 think think writer's son Indy said it best with too 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:06.040 much shirts, and even when it was the right amount 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.440 of shirts, everyone seemed to be wearing tops that went 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:09.360 down to their knees. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.040 But then came season two and we. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.920 Quickly found ourselves no longer making fun of the clothes, 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:19.640 but rather loving the changes, and we quickly realized, oh, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:23.640 that's when Sarah took over. Sarah Markowitz came to Boy 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.120 Meets World for seasons two and three after already creating 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.040 some of the most iconic looks of the nineteen nineties. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.559 She had already put a sweater around the waist of 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.080 Keanu Reeves for Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, and was 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.880 the costume designer who created the absolutely iconic looks of 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.280 David Lynch's Twin Peaks, which has some of the most 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.520 memorable outfits of television ever. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:46.720 And for good reason. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.120 We have so many vivid memories of Sarah and loving 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.160 what she brought to the show, it's hard for us 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.800 to not think she was in charge of our clothes 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.400 for the entire run instead of just for two seasons. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:10:00.439 Some other projects she's worked on Less than Zero, Coyote Ugly, 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.520 the Steven Spielberg movie AI, and the entire run of 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:08.320 a little show called The Big Bang Theory. But today, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.280 because we had producer husband of this podcast, Jensen Karp, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.240 literally stalk her and find her, she has been gracious 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.160 enough to lend us some time to talk about the 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.240 coolness and chic that she brought to Boy Meets World. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:24.160 So let's please welcome the absolutely wonderful and endlessly stylish 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:25.640 Sarah Markowitz. 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.520 Wow. Oh my god, it's so good to see your face. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.520 Nice nice to see your faces. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.360 Wow, man, you look just the way I remember you. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:39.440 Oh, thank you. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.920 That's a good thing, Yes it is. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.040 I just got instantly emotional. 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:44.640 I don't know why. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:46.360 I just got instantly emotional. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:53.640 Oh geez, sweet. I am so touch that you even 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.440 people care about all this kind of stuff, you know. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.520 Oh man, I mean, I guess I can't speak to 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.000 whether or not anybody else cares. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.679 But the three of us carey. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:07.280 We care about the three of you. That's my story 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.280 and I'm sticking to it. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:10.439 The three of us care a lot. 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:14.679 We were so excited when you agreed to do this 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.480 with us, and we're willing to sit down and talk 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.880 with us, because you know, we have talked a lot 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.680 about our wardrobe over season one and then going into 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:28.280 season two, and season two had such a just such 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.439 a change in the style of everyone. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.120 Become the show because it's what we all had memories 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.840 of the first season, Like we knew we had like 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.920 lots of hoods and like we'd too many layers, and 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:41.400 then when we were watching it, we're like, well, this 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.040 is just ridiculous, Like our order was so crazy. And 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:45.960 then it's like the second season, we're like, oh, that's 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.920 the show we remember, that's what we all look that's 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.640 it looks like Boy Meets World now, And we were 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.600 like it was Sarah, it was so fun to remember, Like. 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.640 Yes, you know, it's funny because I mean, when it's 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.320 hard to remember, you know, it's a long time ago. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.599 In thinking about it and getting ready to talk to 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.880 you guys. I mean, so much of what I do 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:13.920 is just instinct, you know, it's not it's not like linear, 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.720 you know, that is what feels right. And I knew 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.720 for sure I really never liked those hoods and those 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.640 like sleeve things. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:24.760 I still don't. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.240 Like them, like you know, and sometimes like it is 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.880 appropriate for you know, it's there are like stereotypical things 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.120 that we think of, like if you think of a thug, 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.640 you know, or buy in a bar a burly guy 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.320 and you put a cut sleeve thing, you know. I mean, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:47.040 I've done it since you know, it does sometimes it's right, 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.600 but for some reason for me, it never felt right 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:52.680 for you guys. And also the show was Philadelphia, and 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.760 it felt very California. You know that that look for 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:01.839 me never felt East Coast, if so, and still does 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.320 more West coast. And it is, you know, one of 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.920 the challenges. I mean, it's not brain surgery, but it's 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.640 one of the challenges we have in costumes, Like you know, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.720 it's ninety five degrees outside, but you're supposed to be 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.319 in this, you know, So it sucks that have to 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.720 layer you up and put you in many things, but 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.840 you act and you pretend you know, we're we're in 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:22.720 the business and make. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:26.319 Believe so some of us because we've we've we've determined 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.720 that Danielle cannot act while wearing a winter coat. 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.040 She has I can't act in a jacket. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.200 You remember me saying that I probably didn't start speaking 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.800 up about it in only second season. But I just 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.120 I can't act in a jacket. I can wear it 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.840 into the scene, but then the I have an opportunity 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:43.520 to take the jacket off, I'm going to need to 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:44.079 take that out. 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.360 She never she never master jacket. She never master jacket. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.160 She just couldn't do it. She couldn't do it. 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:53.360 No, I love having armor on, like I like feeling 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.040 like layered up like I hate it, like I hate it. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.839 Just being in a T shirt like that always made 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.280 me such uncomfortable acting. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.679 Yeah, I mean, and it's funny for me because again 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.720 it's kind of throughout my whole career, you know, and 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:09.320 especially in kids, which you all were at that time. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.640 I don't like that little empty space like in a shirt. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.560 I like covering it in with a T shirt underneath it. 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.640 So I'm always a layer girl, like especially on younger kids, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.040 because I think that's I don't know, I don't know 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.040 that that's a part of the body we should really 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.560 be seeing and interesting. That's right or legitimate, but it's 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:34.320 a right thing. So I always, you know, or most 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.640 of the time, I do fill that in. But Danielle, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.720 you were so great and actually with the exception of 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:46.440 will you were all even Ben, although looking at pictures 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.120 he wasn't the greatest at it. But you were so 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.800 great with vintage clothing, you know, which was a big 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:57.280 part of my thing. I love set and I mean, Danielle, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:01.520 you and those vintage jackets. I mean, you know, we're 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:06.840 so great on your body and some of the pictures 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.600 and images that you were I like layering. But I 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.680 even liked it with with T. Penga because you know, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.320 like one of the pictures you sent me with the 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.880 like that vintage dress going. 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:25.480 To talk about it. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.520 But then with the boots like I don't know, I 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:29.600 just liked that. I like that idea. And then for writer, 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:34.000 those vintage vests that you know had found and had 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.800 you know, then had more made you know, for you, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.560 and and then I just like that will you seem 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:44.480 to become like the sweater guy, you know? And I 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.920 didn't think it mattered what season it was, you were 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.480 just kind of the sweater guy. And I apologize for that, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:51.600 No you kidding. 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.280 I love I'm in real life, I'm sweater guys. So 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.200 I have no problem with that whatsoever. As long as 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:58.320 I'm comfortable, I'm fine. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:04.120 So I had to do with you know school and 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.480 you know, like where everybody was in their life, you know. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.200 I mean also one of my biggest memories really in 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.600 thinking I didn't really prepare, but in thinking about this 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:19.800 was a mister Turner, Like he was a character that 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:26.080 I loved and I always had like secret things and 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.200 I still do on my shows now. But with his ties, yes, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:35.000 we have to talk about it, yeah whatever, like you know, 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.120 but nobody really knew and I didn't really discuss it, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:38.520 like I. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.160 Just okay, so this was totally your secret agenda. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:43.840 You slipped the ties in there. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.920 That's so great. We were trying to find out where 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:46.520 they came from. 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.440 Yeah, because we thought we had Tony on the show. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.280 We were like Tony, like did you. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.000 Ever talk about it? He was like, no, no one 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.280 ever talked to me. But they're so striking now. It's 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.360 such like it's it's such an obvious, bold choice that 0:16:58.480 --> 0:16:59.400 somebody was making. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:00.000 You. 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:06.800 Yeah, with me, it always had ninety nine percent of 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.840 the time it had to do with either the theme 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.160 of that episode, you know what I mean, Like there 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.560 was a whole little secret like what are those stupid 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.880 things that Taylor Swift calls him? You know, like, yeah, 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.520 you know, it was my little thing. I just did 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.680 the show last year called the United States of Al 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:33.720 and it was about Afghan interpreter that we, you know, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.639 worked with our military and we brought him to the 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:40.680 country and he lived with his family in Cincinnati and 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.520 at one point, I guess they don't have birthday parties. 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.800 He never really knew his birthday, and so the family 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.360 put together a birthday party for him and I had 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.720 him in this shirt that was all these different colors 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.760 and on rack approval, you know, my executive was like, oh, 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.720 I don't know about that shirt, and I said, well, 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:00.560 the reason I picked that shirt is because it's the 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:05.440 color that everybody, all the family members are wearing, and 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.479 he is the one that's the Titus family. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.280 Yeah, and I explained it to me. I started crying. 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:12.680 Yeah, that's beautiful. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:15.640 That's one of the things that we do or that 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:19.720 I do, that people don't really know. But I just random, 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:21.879 like I went to my closet and picked out this. Today. 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:25.280 There's an awful lot of that goes into you know, 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:27.120 but most people don't know it. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.440 You know, no, but it's so fun because it's like 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.160 it's it's your love letter to the shows. You work 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.879 on to be like, I'm thoughtful about this, I'm particular 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.520 about this, and because I did notice, we talked about 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.000 it with one of the Turner ties that we noticed. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.760 It was a I think a holiday episode the Turnaround Dance, 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:49.600 where there's barely any mention of holiday throughout or Christmas 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.600 throughout the episode, but the signs they're hanging for the 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:55.520 Christmas episode have like a snowman on it. And I 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:57.879 noticed that one of Turner's ties was red and it 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.960 had swirls and it just seemed christmasy. I was like, 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:04.199 I think it's a Christmas tie, and so it was. 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.640 And we're all the ties vintage. 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:10.240 Ninety percent of them, if not more were, I mean, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.439 and it's funny. I have most of my stuff in 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.520 storage now when I wrap that show, but I have 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.000 some of the ties I kept. I mean, I just 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.560 because I collect that kind of stuff. Actually, I had 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.919 your bathrobe too. You had that Shinio bathrobe that I 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.280 think it had like the keeycock or something on the 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.320 back of this on other shows before. I mean, I 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:37.240 try to do that as well. And a writer, I 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.840 think I and I was at her place yesterday and 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.200 I meant to grab it. I think I have two 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.280 of your vinted shirts that my mom wore, you know, 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.200 like has worn over the years. Next time and I'll 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:53.480 reach out to Jenson and I'll let you guys know, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.880 or I'll send them to you because I was so well. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.720 The thing we think is really funny is that we 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.760 went through the whole first season of the show started 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.280 the second season, none of us even mentioned that it 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.760