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Speaker 2: Story from your life?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: The best is when I was doing Ley Miz for

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Speaker 2: So I'd be running around. Well, one time they resold

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Speaker 2: The way Gavroche is introduced is I'm under a blanket

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Speaker 1: I wore like a long sleeved pants and pants.

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Speaker 3: What are you wearing? You look like you're going to

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Speaker 1: that's when Sarah took over. Sarah Markowitz came to Boy

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Speaker 4: Nice nice to see your faces.

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Speaker 3: Wow, man, you look just the way I remember you.

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Speaker 6: She never she never master jacket. She never master jacket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and it's funny for me because again

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Speaker 2: Just okay, so this was totally your secret agenda.

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Speaker 3: You slipped the ties in there.

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Speaker 2: Ever talk about it? He was like, no, no one

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with me, it always had ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I explained it to me. I started crying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the things that we do or that

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Speaker 3: We can't see what's on the tie show.

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Speaker 4: Because of you, and I was trying to think what

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Speaker 3: I don't know, wait till we get to that episode.

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Speaker 2: It's run right, and I forget It's like a backstory

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Speaker 4: kind of naked. What a cool story. I do remember, Well,

441
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I have it in storage. So the

442
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 4: next time, on whatever next go, I get and I

443
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 4: put my stuff out of storage, you know, because there

444
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 4: are certain things that you know, over the years, I've

445
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: had to keep, you know, I just keep because they're special.

446
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 4: And I saw the clip that when you guys had

447
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: dity and that necklace, you know, I mean, that was

448
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: so special and I certainly had no memory or recollection

449
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 4: of that that that was like a ritual that you

450
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: guys did getting an end.

451
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 6: I didn't remember it either.

452
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: At first I thought it was yeah, I was like,

453
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: where did I get this necklace?

454
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 6: Girlfriend or something?

455
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 4: It was like, I didn't remember either, But I think

456
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: also were I mean, I think one of the things

457
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 4: that really for me matters in my work and what

458
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: I do, is like the backstory and where you guys

459
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 4: come from, you know, a writer in a trailer park

460
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 4: and family, mister Turner, you know. I mean, I think

461
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 4: a lot of that stuff helps inform decisions, you know,

462
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, I don't have any real memories

463
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 4: of interacting a lot like with the producers in terms

464
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: of what you were wearing or what you were not wearing.

465
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 4: You know. Michael always used to say, you know, again,

466
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: there are a lot of people who don't understand. I mean,

467
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 4: Chuck Lory is not a whole lot different, you know

468
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: when they describe things. You know, but Michael always like

469
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 4: wanted acid washed genes, you know, those words like he

470
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 4: just knew, but he literally really meant that. But you know,

471
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 4: people get in their head a certain term of something

472
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: and it's like with that and what does that mean?

473
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 4: And not everybody can do and be that, you know.

474
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: So it's such an interesting aspect of your job, you know,

475
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: to have to like take because I mean most people,

476
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't go through life thinking about

477
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: clothing that much, you know, like and so you yeah

478
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: and so like. And you could be a very creative writer, director, producer,

479
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: but not really be good at that, right or or

480
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: be very good at it for yourself, but never think

481
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't know how to dress a woman, for instance,

482
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, but I would love to be

483
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: able to give input on some wardrobe, but I wouldn't

484
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: know how to I wouldn't have the vocabulary.

485
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the shit of the matter is. I mean a

486
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 4: couple of things about that. I think Number one about input,

487
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 4: I as still to this day, I am a believer

488
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 4: that if you don't feel as an actor, if you

489
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable in it, then I haven't done my

490
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: job right right, you know? Like it. There are certain

491
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 4: things that I'll fight for that I think are important,

492
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: and I'll explain to you why I pick that shirt

493
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: or why I think this, and maybe when you hear

494
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 4: my reasoning behind it, you I feel differently about it.

495
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, if you don't

496
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: feel right in it, then you're not gonna it's not

497
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 4: going to serve you, and it's not going to serve

498
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 4: the character, and it's not going to serve the show.

499
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: So well, what I think you and other super creative

500
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: people like you who work in your field do better

501
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: than anyone else is like you're talking about, you got

502
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: a piece of input, let's say the acid wash genes,

503
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: and it's like getting a zip file. And instead of

504
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: just like for any of us who were given acid

505
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: wash genes, you'd be like, he asked for acid wash genes, let's.

506
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: Go get it.

507
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: But instead what you do is you go, hmm, I

508
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: got a condensed little piece of input. I'm now going

509
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: to extrapolate and say, you are trying to get the

510
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: feeling of this, and instead of doing it in this

511
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: acid washed genes way, let's do it in this really cool,

512
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: more interesting way. And you come up with what that cool,

513
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: interesting way is and present it and suddenly everyone's like, yes,

514
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: this is it. And yet I could have never picked it.

515
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: I would have never known, but you've figured it out phychology.

516
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: Also the other part of that is it's, you know,

517
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: when we get dressed every day us as regular people,

518
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: I don't really think about, oh the backdrop. I mean,

519
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: okay on camera person, so right the second, yeah, I thought, okay,

520
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: black is good. I mean, I'm not gonna lie in

521
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 4: your shoes for half a second. I think there's so

522
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: many moving parts that I don't think Danielle I would

523
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: ever put you in that color shirt or jacket because

524
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 4: of what your backdrop is or you know, we take

525
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: into consideration the color, the couch that you're sitting, other

526
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: people you're interacting with, you know, and that's really important,

527
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work.

528
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: But you know, getting dressed, I don't think Oh, well,

529
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: what's you know, what is so and so gonna wear today?

530
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 4: Because I'm having lunch with her and so we look

531
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: good sitting together, like I don't know.

532
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: Well, So then that leads to a really important question,

533
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: how did you learn this? Like how did you get

534
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: into this? And how did you discover that this is

535
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: a skill you have or that you could develop.

536
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 4: I didn't go to school for it. I I don't

537
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: know me, you know. I just think it's just a

538
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 4: gift that I have and I don't need to be

539
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: weird about it, but I just I really don't know.

540
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: When I was growing up, and I always the odd

541
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: thing is, when I was a little girl, I always thought,

542
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 4: like when you think, what do you want to do

543
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: when you grow up? I always thought, I want to

544
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: design album covers And you're going to know who I am,

545
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: but they'll know who the musician is. You know, they'll

546
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 4: know the artist, but they won't know me. But my

547
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: work will be the album cover that they buy.

548
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 6: That's so cool.

549
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: That's kind of what I ended up doing, right Nick,

550
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: That is what I do because people know the show

551
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 4: or the movie whatever, but they don't necessarily know me.

552
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 4: So and I grew up a privilege in Beverly Hills,

553
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: and I went to college in Vermont, but I had

554
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: no idea what I wanted to do. I went to

555
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 4: Bennington College as a dance maker, had two bad knees.

556
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 4: And then I went to art major, but I didn't

557
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 4: want to be a starving artist. And then I went

558
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: to early childhood development, but I don't really like kids

559
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 4: all that much out alcoholism and I'm like, well, this

560
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: isn't a good path, so let's move on from that.

561
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 4: And I went to secretarial school so I could get

562
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: a job in any business, in any industry, to figure

563
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: out what I wanted to do. And in New York,

564
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: and I moved back to California. My dad was ill,

565
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: and I moved back to California, and when he died,

566
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 4: like we had a friend that was an executive producer

567
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: and his daughter was a costume designer, and I was like,

568
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: I called, I'm like, how do I go about getting

569
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 4: a job? And she had movie called Hamburger the motion

570
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: picture with.

571
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: Dick College Yeah that you know this will of course

572
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 5: I know it, Oh my god, of course not many

573
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 5: did kiss movies, so.

574
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 6: I got it.

575
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: Was the greatest guy, Like everybody was so afraid of him,

576
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 4: but I wasn't. I was a great guy. And I

577
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 4: she hired me for ten days as a wardrobe assistant.

578
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: I mad two hundred and fifty dollars a week. I

579
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 4: worked by nineteen hours a day, like and I finally

580
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: like exhaled, like I was like, this is where I belong.

581
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: And I just from that point on, I started there,

582
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 4: and I worked my way up, and I did soul

583
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: Man and then a really bad movie called Night of

584
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: the Creeps, and you know, and and then I less

585
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: than zero. I was the costume on and I got

586
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: in the that got organized and I got in the

587
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 4: union then and then I got offered When Peaks as

588
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: a supervisor. And the designer who did the pilot. I

589
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: was on an a Suzuo Trooper commercial at the Pasadena

590
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 4: Courthouse or something, and I beeper. I had a pager

591
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 4: and called her from the pay phone in the arches

592
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 4: that they're and she's like, I decided not to do it,

593
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: and I told them that you should design it.

594
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, okay game.

595
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 4: And you know that was my first design job with Lynch.

596
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly itics you play.

597
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, the look of Twin Peaks is famous I mean

598
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 6: it's famous.

599
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It's it's I mean they still have

600
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: all these you know, conventions. Yeah, you know, it's a

601
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: big deal. But yeah, so that was And I again,

602
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: so how to I learn it? Or I don't know?

603
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 4: I I it just is something that I I just

604
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: kind of am good at. And I mean, you know,

605
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: and I mean like in any of us, I'm sure

606
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 4: you guys can look at and you joke about, you know,

607
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: jacketing or jack ing, you know. I mean they're all

608
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: things that we're proud of and not you know, like

609
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: I made a better choice there, you know. But I

610
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: mean it's yeah, I've been doing it a pretty long time.

611
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: What do you remember about then coming to Boy Meets World?

612
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: And were we the first children you had ever styled?

613
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 4: I did Life goes On? I went to rehab after

614
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: twin Peaks. Okay, I'm sober thirty two years Yeah, pretty amazing,

615
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: so cool, and yeah that wrap party could have been

616
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: a Betty Ford for all of us. And I did

617
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: Life goes On as the first job I got when

618
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: I got out of rehab. I was thirty five days

619
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 4: sober and there were kids, you know in that that

620
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: was quirky and yeah, Becca, and you know that was

621
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 4: a family as well, with Patty Lapone and Bill Smithrovich

622
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: as the parents. And and then I think after that

623
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: I came to you guys. So I mean in terms

624
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: of designing, I mean there were some kids in Twin Peaks.

625
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 4: I mean they weren't you know, they were in high

626
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: school in Twin Peaks, so not they weren't as young

627
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: as you. They were a little bit older than you guys.

628
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 4: But I think Twin Peaks reminded me how much I

629
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 4: love vintage clothing, you know. And and even in when

630
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: we did Big Bang Theory, you know, several years ago.

631
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: I mean at the early stages of Big Bang. Although

632
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 4: Mary quickly was the cost is or was the costume designer,

633
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 4: she's still you know what, I don't know the word.

634
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: We brought in a lot of vintage clothing for Cuther

635
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: Polly and for wollawo you know, as the seasons went on, Uh,

636
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: Cuther poly didn't evolve that much, but Wollawoitz did and

637
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: we got rid of some of that stuff. But I

638
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: just love it. I think it's real life, especially families

639
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: that can't afford, you know, to to go to North

640
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: Strum's or Bloomingdale's or Macy's or whatever, Dillard's, whatever it is.

641
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: I think they go to second goodwill and second hand stores,

642
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: and I think that is part of creating real characters. Yes,

643
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 4: you know that that makes it feel more real to me.

644
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I also don't want to do a show

645
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 4: we all shot listen, we're here. I don't want to

646
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: put you in the same thing. Every show is shopping

647
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: at the Gap and Macy's and this and this and that.

648
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: So it comes generic, yeah, yeah.

649
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 4: And so using vintage clothing and mixing it in you know, yeah,

650
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: Henley is a Henley, which you guys. You know, there's

651
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 4: certain pieces that adnom jet whatever that everybody. That's universal

652
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: language for anybody. But I think adding vintage pieces is

653
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: something that I know, nobody else is going to be

654
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: wearing that. You know, nobody else is wearing those vests

655
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: that John wore, you know. And I don't know that

656
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: people were putting things together like Topanga did. Although I

657
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: think that was a real girl, you know, I think layers,

658
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: and I think she had an artistic flare to her

659
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: and you know, a toughness but a softness and it

660
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 4: was just about trying to show that in a way

661
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: that you know, didn't look at a place. I mean,

662
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 4: and when I did General Hospital, same thing. I brought

663
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 4: in a lot of vintage clothing. When I there was

664
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: a character Brooklyn. Brooklyn. She's changed a lot now she's

665
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: still not that same actress. But you know, it's just

666
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 4: kind of in some way, I guess my signature, you know.

667
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I credit you with my love for vintage clothing,

668
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: which has continued on. I'm not I wish I was

669
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: better at it because I remember going shopping with you.

670
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: We went to put We went, you took me to

671
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: Polka Dots and moonbeams, yeah, and we went and looked

672
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: at things and there were things you were pulling that

673
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's not going to look good

674
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: on me. Oh that's going to be ridiculous, or that's

675
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: not going to work. And then I'd put them on

676
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: and be like and you'd say, yeah, well we're not

677
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: going to close it like that, We're gonna keep it open.

678
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put a belt on you being like, whoa, look,

679
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: how cool that is? And I'm not good at that part.

680
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: I go into a vintage clothing store and I, oh, man,

681
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: that's cool. That's awesome. That's cool. And I'm like, I

682
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing, but like I would I

683
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: would pay a million dollars if I had a million dollars,

684
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: I would pay a.

685
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: Million dollars to go vintage clothing shopping with you.

686
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 4: Just happy I don't have to pay anything.

687
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: It would be I mean, it was just so fun

688
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: and I remember.

689
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: I mean specifically, I'd love to jump into some of

690
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: the specifics if you're okay with it. Well, before I

691
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: jump into the specifics, I would like to know what

692
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: were some of your influences in season two? Like we were,

693
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's like ninety four ninety five, we've picked

694
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: up on a little bit of like a swinger's vibe.

695
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: What what were some of your like what in what

696
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: it was inspiring you, what was influencing you at that time.

697
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: To be honest, it's so long ago. I really, you know,

698
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: those kinds of things, I don't really remember, you know.

699
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 4: And I I mean, I'm sure I had vision boards

700
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 4: because I still do them now. You know, I always

701
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 4: put together because that's how I you know, through magazines

702
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: and things like that. But I really, honestly don't remember

703
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 4: I just knew that I wanted to give it how

704
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 4: you looked. That's that was my main impetus.

705
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, with Daniel talking about about not being able to like, oh,

706
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 5: I don't know how to put this piece with this

707
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 5: piece of stuff, then there were people like me where

708
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 5: you would literally write on my stuff, put on brown shoes,

709
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: put on black socks, pull them up, put on pants, tuck.

710
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: In shirt, and it wasn't clear you have to put

711
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: your socks on first.

712
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 5: It was I mean it was seriously, it was like

713
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 5: put on belt, put to second hole in belt, like

714
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 5: there are some people where it was I was paint

715
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 5: by numbers because I just didn't I don't.

716
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 6: Know clothes at all. And I think by the third

717
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 6: day you were like, yeah, yeah.

718
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 4: That's what we're there for. I mean it's like a

719
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 4: service business, you know what I mean, Like we're that's

720
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: my job. That's I take pleasure and pride in that.

721
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: And I you know, it's never meant in a you know,

722
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: if you don't know, you don't know like saying or

723
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: you're saying like you know, it's just about being helpful,

724
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: you know, and and uh strange, Yeah, Well, because again

725
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: we each have a job your job is to know

726
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: your lines and know your mark and where you're supposed

727
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 4: to stand. In my job, you shouldn't have to worry about.

728
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: And if something's too fussy, then it's just not good

729
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: and right and again, every now and then there's things

730
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 4: that are important for whatever reason the story or you know,

731
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: something that's coming up that you might not know as

732
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: an actor. So you know, this would happen a lot

733
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 4: of times on General Hospital because we were three weeks.

734
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 4: I was three weeks, I had a pulling and so

735
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: some actors saying, oh, do I really have to wear

736
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 4: the tie? And I go, oh, no, it's okay. And

737
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: then Alex my like, you know, right, arm right, or

738
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: I would go, no, you do because you you know,

739
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 4: you tie somebody up with your tie a week from

740
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, there's certain things that they

741
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 4: might not have known that we had the privilege of knowing,

742
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: you know, down the road. So but you know, to

743
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 4: help somebody again, I still to this day think it's

744
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: really important. Your job is to know your lines and

745
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: not worry about do I hang the jacket here or

746
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: do it? You know?

747
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 6: I mean, you got It's funny.

748
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 5: You must have known us well though, because to this day,

749
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 5: I would say I still essentially dressed the way you

750
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 5: dressed me. So it's like button a button down that's

751
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 5: kind of open with something underneath it a pair of

752
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: pants or a sweater. I mean, it's like it's kind

753
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: of like I'm still Sarah mark witzing it. So it

754
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: was just like.

755
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: There's not a lot for men, you know, I mean

756
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 4: it's pretty basic. I mean, you know, it's the challenge

757
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: on any show, you know, the women, there's a lot

758
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 4: more that one can do, you know, women, And how

759
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: do you, you know, make a guy, especially at season

760
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: out for season after season. Okay, so you're the T

761
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 4: shirt guy like on this United States of Al, you

762
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 4: know Parker. I mean he was great in a T shirt.

763
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: He was sexy, he looked you know. I mean it

764
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: just like you become a T shirt guy. But like

765
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: at some point you've got to take you have to

766
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: You're not so vapid there. You're more dimensional than just

767
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: the T shirt guy, you know. Like so with you know,

768
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 4: it's trying to find out but the truth of the

769
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 4: matter is in real life, which I mean we're trying

770
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: to make believe real life, some people are just like

771
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: you say the T shirt guy or the sweater guy,

772
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 4: and there's nothing wrong with that, you know, I mean,

773
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: I think that's real life. And really that's the biggest

774
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: compliment of all because if we can create characters that

775
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: people can see themselves in. You know, certain shows like

776
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 4: I have friends that say, oh, it's heightened reality. I don't. Yes,

777
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: when I did General Hospital, I agree a show like

778
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: that is heightened reality. And people want to suspend their

779
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: regular life and want to aspire to be X Y

780
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: and Z. But in shows like Boy Me Thrilled, the

781
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: main body of my work, there are people that we

782
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 4: want to see ourselves and people that that's what makes

783
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: me want to watch a show. If I'm distracted by

784
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: it's not Dynasty, you know, it's like they're real people

785
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 4: with real problems and real families and real issues like

786
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 4: we all have in our life. So to me, that's

787
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: the mark of I've done my job well if you know,

788
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: with a little flair, you know, and people want to

789
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 4: be aspirational, and people want to look at the panger.

790
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 4: People want to look at various characters or Sewan and go, oh,

791
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 4: I could I could rock up more cool, I could

792
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: show over this, or I could throw a leather jacket on,

793
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 4: or I could wear as a belt, or I don't know.

794
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the leather jack. I don't know.

795
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: I know, so you guys did a clip of it recently.

796
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: I honestly don't.

797
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: You don't remember the brand at all? Do you remember

798
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: the brand was a vintage?

799
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly do not. And to be quite candid,

800
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 4: I mean I remember that mister Turner had a leather jacket,

801
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: but I don't. I have no real recollection of any

802
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 4: special I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't

803
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 4: know if I mean, I guess what I would guess,

804
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 4: but this is totally a guess and could not be true.

805
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was something that that you

806
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: had from a lot, like if it was your dad's

807
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: or your grandfather's or your you know what I mean.

808
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 4: And it was.

809
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 5: Also, didn't buy the leather jacket because I had it

810
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 5: on in first season? Yeah you did so, Yeah, I

811
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 5: remember it was mine in first season.

812
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: So it was there from Will to Harley to me,

813
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: went from Will to Me to Harley backtized to you.

814
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: And we can spot the episode when Rider gets it.

815
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: He gets it in that band on the Run episode,

816
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: which I think we have another we have a picture

817
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about today.

818
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: So anybody remember this because I pulled this out from

819
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 4: my portfolio?

820
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: What is that? Oh my god, you were fifties.

821
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 6: Yes, it's the fifties episode.

822
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: And then look at this one.

823
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeses so.

824
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 4: And then when I had addressed the pig as a

825
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: song that was from I can't believe it.

826
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: That was from Baby Gape.

827
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,479
Speaker 4: The clothes for the pig were from Baby Cap. Pig

828
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 4: made it into my portfolio.

829
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 6: Hysterical.

830
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: So we love the story actually because it kind of

831
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: makes sense, even just storyline Boy meets World storyline wise,

832
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: that Eric had been wearing the leather jacket. And then

833
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: in the Band on the Run episode, Corey and Sean

834
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: are upstairs. We don't see them, but we assume they're

835
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: getting ready, and they come running down the stairs ready

836
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: to go have their performance, and that's the first time

837
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: we see writer a ka Sean wearing the jacket. And

838
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: we had always wondered, like, how did it all of

839
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: a sudden become writers? How did it become writers? And

840
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: we talked about the fact that it makes sense storyline

841
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: wise that they were getting ready for this performance, and

842
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: Eric said, here, man, take my jacket wear This writer

843
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: just stole it.

844
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: Stole it from Eric.

845
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I and then and then.

846
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: Just catch for the night.

847
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it better though than Eric.

848
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: You know, it definitely did it fit Will better because

849
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: it was a little big on right character wise, it

850
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: really fit the Sean character. Let's jump into some of

851
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: the specific pictures because I I'd like to start with

852
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: a tapanga outfit because I'm just so selfish. Is from

853
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: season two, episode two. It's pictures one and pictures one

854
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: point five. I love these, yeah, and we I wish

855
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: if you go to picture I guess it's one point five.

856
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: That's what it says on my sheet. Anyway, there's a

857
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: full image of it so you can see the full

858
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: body because it's so cool, like a.

859
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: Yes, with like a with like a petty skirt under it?

860
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: Is that what those are called? Yeah, petticoat crinoline or something?

861
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: Hold on, yeah, you sent me? Is that this? Oh? No? Yes?

862
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 4: But the boats? Is that the dress? Is it this

863
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 4: one with the dress?

864
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it's that one with the dress with that little

865
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 1: petticoat under there in the boots.

866
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the with the hiking with the construction boots.

867
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: Thought, so like Timberland boots.

868
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, those are That's my one of my favorite looks.

869
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 4: I think I sent that last night to Jensa. I

870
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 4: love that.

871
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: I love it.

872
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: And so do you remember where this dress came from?

873
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: One of your many vintage places?

874
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you know it could have polka dots

875
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: and moonbeam. I mean I know, I don't remember where

876
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: that came.

877
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: And so how did you like? Oh yes, okay, here's

878
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: another to Panga one. This is ten point five?

879
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 6: Okay, what was this is?

880
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: Thinking?

881
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: This is so cute?

882
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 1: Okay, I remember feeling a little uncomfortable in this because

883
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: it was so out of the realm of something anything

884
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: else I had worn. But this is the the New

885
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: Year's Eve episode stuck on the subway.

886
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 6: I see the subway in the background.

887
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: Now, some of these things are just things you owned, right,

888
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 1: Like this cad do have come from your your personal collection?

889
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: The collection I know. I actually I sent this last time.

890
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: I was like, what was I thinking? Like, oh man, again,

891
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: the the what was I thinking? It's always the story

892
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: that drives it, you know what I mean? So it

893
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 4: is hard to just randomly, you know, without seeing the

894
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: episode or trying to remember what the reason was for it.

895
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 4: But it is always story driven with something special toy

896
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: like that, you know, is right, definitely story driven. But

897
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 4: I agree, I love that. First look, I think that's

898
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 4: a really special topanga look and I think so cute. Yeah,

899
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 4: it really is. And but again then you've got into

900
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 4: the vintage jackets. But there's another good topanga that you

901
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: guys sent me that with the.

902
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 3: Skirt season two, episode eight.

903
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: Yes, with the skirt and the vest and the you know,

904
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's Q two and kind of

905
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 4: feels like the same.

906
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Is that the jacket with the little rhinestones, the little sparkly.

907
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 4: Bits on it. Wow, I love that. And we had

908
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 4: that in two colors. We had that in brown, and

909
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: we had that in navy.

910
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I love that jacket and I wore it twice on

911
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: the show in the second season. I wore it in

912
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: the in the episode where the band on the Run episode.

913
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: Because I'm wearing it in the tag, i am only

914
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: wearing it for the short little tag or no, I'm

915
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: actually wearing it for more than that. I wear it

916
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: to the performance of the Band on the Run performance,

917
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: and then I'm wearing it again at another time and

918
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: I and I know in that one, I'm wearing it

919
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: with like a super high pone and tons of curls.

920
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: It may have been even season three then, but.

921
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: I lo eight. I think you guys sent that.

922
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the jacket, yeah, super fitted.

923
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: Just not too long ago when I did Big Bang Theory.

924
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 4: I mean we were twelve seasons, and so I still

925
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 4: had like a lot of my special pieces and collections.

926
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 4: And when that season, when that show ended after twelve years,

927
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: and I had most of my stuff like in storage

928
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: at Warner Brothers because we had all these cages. So

929
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: I still had many of those pieces and they're now

930
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 4: and Warner Brothers in their rental collection. Wow. I wanted

931
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: them to go to someplace special, and I didn't want

932
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: to sell them. It wasn't about money or anything like that.

933
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: I wanted them.

934
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 1: But well, speaking about the the you showed us the

935
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: picture from the fifties episode. I have a distinct memory

936
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: of hearing that the shoes I'm wearing in that episode

937
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: were like Lucial Ball's shoes.

938
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: It's very possible. I don't remember, but I mean it

939
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me.

940
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: And they were a little too small for me, and

941
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't care.

942
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: I am my feet into these and I am wearing.

943
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Lucial Balls shoes and it was so cool and I

944
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: just I loved it so much. Okay, let's go to

945
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: let's go to another picture. Let's go to Eric Matthews,

946
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: the great Eric Matthews. This is an image you see

947
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: on the internet a lot. He looks so cute in

948
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: this little sweater. It was used in season two episodes eleven, fourteen,

949
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: and sixteen.

950
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: I know, but how embarrassing that I repeated that so

951
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 4: for your life because we wear things, of course, Yeah,

952
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 4: you guys sent it to.

953
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you I think I agree that sweater

954
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: for a little while.

955
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: You kept it after the show.

956
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: I know you asked me about stores, and I don't

957
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: know why this just came to my mind, but at

958
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: that time, there used to be a store that I'm

959
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: all called Structure.

960
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

961
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a lot of your sweaters might have come

962
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: from Structure.

963
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: That makes sense, Okay, Okay, I love it. I mean, look,

964
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: you see this. This is such an Eric Matthews look.

965
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 2: It's so cute, the definitive Eric Matthews.

966
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: Wow.

967
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, the little roll top sweater and yep.

968
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to a Sean hunter. Look, this is a

969
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: vest from season three, and we have talked a lot

970
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: about writers vests.

971
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the vest were discovered in season two. Like that

972
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: happens by like episode three, it becomes every episode that

973
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: from that then on.

974
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember like yeah, oh.

975
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, please please explain this look to us.

976
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 4: I mean, again, I really like mixing, and I still do.

977
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 4: I really like mixing pattern on pattern. I know it's

978
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 4: a big faupa and it's kind of hard sometimes to

979
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: get it right, and I certainly didn't always get it right.

980
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 4: But to me, if it's in the right color, you know,

981
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 4: if it's some how picks up the colors, it does work.

982
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is beautiful because look at the

983
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: coordination the undershirt, which is probably just a generic T

984
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: shirt from the app that matches so perfectly to the

985
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: coral color in the vest, and then the the the

986
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: button down shirt, which by the way, has my favorite

987
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: type of collar. I love a wide collar like that,

988
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: and then the vest picking up the yellow from that shirt.

989
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: That's so good.

990
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: And this is the type of thing that if I

991
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: had ever put this on myself, I'd be like, oh yeah,

992
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: I'll be laughed out of wherever I go, people will

993
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: be like, what are you doing? But that's because I

994
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: assume it must be wrong if I like it. But

995
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: look how I mean, that's amazing, and I think.

996
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 4: It's I think it's like you have to also look

997
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 4: at the big picture of it, you know what I mean.

998
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, if you even in regular life, you know,

999
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 4: if we dissect and take this part in that part.

1000
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: But again, that's why I guess it's hard for me

1001
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 4: to describe it, because I do it on a map,

1002
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: you know, like I sometimes put things together and go,

1003
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 4: oh no, you know, like it sometimes it works and

1004
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 4: sometimes it doesn't work. It doesn't always work. And there

1005
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 4: were you know, in some of the pictures you guys

1006
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 4: sent me. I mean, you know, certain things are more

1007
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: successful than others. I mean, they just are you know,

1008
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: I don't you know again, like I'm sure you guys

1009
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 4: can say the same thing about acting. You know, I'm

1010
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 4: sure you know there are certain things that you know

1011
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 4: work better than others.

1012
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: But Sarah, when we first started, you mentioned that you

1013
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: had some vests made. Is that true?

1014
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, a lot.

1015
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: Of the the best. Again, I would buy vintage fabric

1016
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: and I used to use this woman, Joe Torngren, and

1017
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 4: she she did a lot of the Drew Carey stuff.

1018
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 4: She had a studio off of Vineland, and actually when

1019
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 4: we moved to kt LA, we set up a workroom

1020
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 4: upstairs and Joe did like a lot of your guys's

1021
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 4: alterations and stuff. But she made a lot of the

1022
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 4: vests for us, and we I would buy the buttons,

1023
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: and I say, but and she would, we would make

1024
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 4: we would make a lot of those vests because I

1025
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: like had just a passion for vintage fabrick. And again

1026
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: it was the only way to make our show look

1027
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 4: different the other show.

1028
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: And it lasted. I mean, it really makes such a

1029
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: huge difference people, it really does. Like you, you set

1030
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 1: the tone because you then were only with us through

1031
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: part of season three, right, No, I was there.

1032
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 4: I was This is the not fun part of the story.

1033
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 4: I was in negotiations to come back for season four,

1034
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 4: like three days before coming back, I'd asked for more

1035
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: money and they like, you know, dangle the carrot of

1036
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 4: not a lot of money. And you know, it was

1037
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: one of those like personal growth moments or I said

1038
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: no and my birth and my value and it was devastating,

1039
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: you know, three days before I was scheduled to start

1040
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: after fourth of July holiday, and it was the friday

1041
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: before that, and so like, you know, it kind of

1042
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 4: it was a tough pill to swallow. But I was

1043
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 4: talking to a friend about it last night, and I

1044
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: really I remember exactly where I was sitting when I

1045
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: got the phone call. I remember everything about it, and

1046
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 4: I remember getting off the phone and going good for

1047
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 4: you. You know, it's really empowering to realize my value and

1048
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: worth because so one of the things about you guys,

1049
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 4: being minors and being in school and being you know,

1050
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 4: you had a lot of you were being pulled in

1051
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: a lot of different directions. So my time with you

1052
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: was did have been you know, between school and all

1053
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 4: of the things. And so I often would shop on

1054
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 4: the weekends, and a lot of the places I go

1055
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 4: because I was going to the Rosebult Swapmeat or you know, vintage,

1056
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 4: you know, I couldn't go on the weekends. I mean

1057
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 4: I couldn't go during the week because we had red

1058
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 4: crews and we had you know whatever, and you know

1059
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: Rosebult Swap meat is only on the week Sunday. Yeah,

1060
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: so I was very proud of myself that I said no.

1061
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 4: But so I was there, I believe, for all of Okay,

1062
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 4: doing season three, and it was in negotiation because I

1063
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: was at Disney. I was at Disney and then we

1064
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: moved to k t La.

1065
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, good for you, because, like we've all had

1066
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: those times in our lives where we've been faced with

1067
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: something where we have to say, do I take it?

1068
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: Because I'm already here and I'm comfortable, and this is

1069
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: what they're offering me, and and it's very it's easier

1070
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: to say yes, even though I feel like they're undervaluing me.

1071
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 4: And every other show was already like you know, shows

1072
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 4: were already crewed up, so it wasn't like I mean,

1073
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: and they kept saying it was gonna work. And I

1074
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 4: hold no blame. You know. I think in life, things

1075
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: work out exactly how they're supposed to work out. And I,

1076
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: like I said, it was a very empowering moment for myself,

1077
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 4: you know, to to recognize my worth. I wish I

1078
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 4: to this day, you know, I could remember those moments

1079
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 4: because again, we all sometimes look the other way for

1080
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 4: all the reasons that you just mentioned of it's comfortable,

1081
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: it's easier, it's a guaranteed job. It's you know, stability,

1082
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 4: it's you know, life does take all kinds of twists

1083
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 4: and turns, but I have So it was hard, and

1084
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: it was hard to not get to say goodbye to

1085
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 4: you all and to you know, kind of let you

1086
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 4: know what had happened and that I wasn't not there

1087
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to be there. You know, it's right,

1088
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 4: doesn't have abandonment issues, you know, you know, like a yeah,

1089
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 4: well that's what I'm saying, you know, but was inappropriate?

1090
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 4: You know? And I don't remember. I know when I

1091
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 4: got fired from General Hospital, I did reach out to

1092
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: some of the cast and let them know, you know,

1093
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: what had happened. Uh. But and I wasn't fired from

1094
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: Boy Mets World. I just right said no, just didn't work,

1095
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: I said no. So yeah, and.

1096
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about it a lot, because there

1097
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: are a lot of times we think, man, why didn't

1098
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: It Sure would have been nice had we reached out

1099
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: to like Lee Norris after Lee left the show, But

1100
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: back then, reaching out meant do I have your landline numbers?

1101
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?

1102
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 6: There's no emails.

1103
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: There was no email, there was no cell phone, there

1104
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: was no send a text in.

1105
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: The cast phone numbers wouldn't be on any crew contact

1106
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 2: list either. You know, I don't as cast members. Did

1107
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 2: we even get crew contact lists?

1108
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 6: We didn't. I still have one, you just don't have.

1109
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 6: I found them.

1110
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: Yeahs so cool and Sarah, I think if memory serves

1111
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 5: because you and I hung out a little bit, I

1112
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 5: think if memory serves, you and I did talk.

1113
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 6: After you left.

1114
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 4: I feel like I did. You know, I can't exactly

1115
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 4: remember yea, yeah, I think that you're right. I mean,

1116
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: you know, it's a again. It was. It was awesome

1117
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 4: my time there. I was excited to go back, and

1118
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: but it's also not you know, we have to pick

1119
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 4: and choose the moment. That's what it is the business

1120
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: of show. You know, it's still I'm sure we all,

1121
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: I know, I do. We all still deal with that

1122
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 4: crap today, you know, Oh yeah, it still exists. And

1123
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: now it's you know, things have changed in such a

1124
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 4: crazy weird you know, this is the first season I

1125
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 4: didn't have a show. In my entire career, I worked

1126
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 4: a lot. I mean, I did, you know, I helped

1127
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: out on movies and you know, I shopped and I

1128
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 4: go work on the voice from time to time.

1129
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: That's so cool and I.

1130
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 4: Love it because I'm a soldier in someone else's army.

1131
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: I have no responsibility and I'm just lind rolling.

1132
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 3: It's okay, I do.

1133
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: I want to talk about two more specific pictures, because

1134
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Boy Meets World is kind of famous for it's a

1135
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: wide array of guest stars, and you got to dress

1136
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: two very famous guest stars, Mina Suvari and Britney Murphy,

1137
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about the fact that you

1138
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: put them in the.

1139
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: Same poking pretty serious. Oh my god. I have no

1140
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: idea why. I didn't recognize it until you guys sent

1141
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 4: me these pictures and I'm like, and I even texted

1142
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: last night. I was like, whoa, I'm in the text.

1143
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 3: Yah, I was like, what was I thinking? I mean,

1144
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: at least I look at that, but I'm so cool.

1145
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 3: What a cool undershirt?

1146
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 4: Though I know it is, But I have no idea

1147
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: why I would you know if there was? I have

1148
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 4: no idea because I don't remember, you know, like story wise,

1149
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: who are we and what was it intentional? I mean,

1150
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 4: I really don't know. But I was appalled when I

1151
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: saw last week whenever it was because I mean, at

1152
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: least they were two different seasons, but it was the

1153
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 4: end of season two, are close to its episode sixteen,

1154
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 4: and then yeah, I really don't know, well their style.

1155
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: Differently, I know they are and it's just cool too

1156
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: because it's like obviously in the first in the Minasuvari one,

1157
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: she's wearing a crop sweater, and even though we got

1158
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: away with a lot of, you know, a lot of

1159
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: things because it was on primetime, we still would never

1160
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: have had a young girl in a crop top without

1161
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: something under Oh no, no, So I could see how

1162
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, when you own that cool pink polka dot

1163
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: thing and it's in basically, probably for you, a rack

1164
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: of quote unquote basics.

1165
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, then if.

1166
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: You're going, okay, we love this crop green thing and

1167
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: you're just going through your basics, what can I put

1168
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: under it?

1169
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: What can I put under it? And you go, oh

1170
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 3: my gosh, this should be great under there.

1171
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: And then a similar thing if you have this cute

1172
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: denim vest and the big belt, which is also like

1173
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: to me a calling card of Sarah Markowitz.

1174
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: You love a great thick, cool belt.

1175
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 4: Chunky.

1176
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 6: I think they'd say Dani chunky.

1177
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: Chunky belt, chunky belt to accentuate the waste. Uh is

1178
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: just awesome. And then another thing, another guest star outfit

1179
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: I could not not mention is Danielle Harris. You had

1180
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: daniel Harris who was in the Sister Teresa episode. We

1181
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: laughed so hard when we saw it.

1182
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: She has a.

1183
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: Skirt on that has the sex pistols front and it

1184
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: says sex kitten, a sex.

1185
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: Kitten, like a full on under.

1186
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 6: A boost.

1187
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and look at that leather jacket.

1188
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 6: No, I'm sorry, she's not a sophomore. She's supposed to

1189
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 6: be in like the eighth grade, isn't she.

1190
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 4: Cory little flat? Look at her?

1191
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 6: Look at her.

1192
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: I just absolutely love it.

1193
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 4: I I mean some of my favorites actually regarding guest stars,

1194
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 4: like I like, what was it Ethan Suppley and like

1195
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 4: I loved those two. I thought they were a great

1196
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 4: addition to the show. And I love the characters, and

1197
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 4: you know, I do have memories of them. I worked

1198
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 4: with Ethan another time after that. He was in I

1199
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: did a movie called A Year Without a Santa Claus.

1200
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 4: I think it was called The Year with Santa Claus,

1201
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 4: and he John Goodman was played Santa Claus, but Ethan

1202
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 4: was in it. Like as one of the elves and yeah,

1203
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: so it was great to cross paths and Betsy like

1204
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 4: I stayed friends in touch with her for a while. Yeah,

1205
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 4: I definitely did. And she was cool like in some

1206
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: of my other picture. I know you have pictures that

1207
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: you're showing me, but I pulled out my portfolio and

1208
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 4: there were some pictures. Oh yeah, this is what we

1209
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 4: didn't like.

1210
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: The look we got away from from.

1211
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 6: You know what's funny is I think those were my clothes.

1212
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Well, look at you three boys there there we go. Yeah,

1213
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: the bowling shirts. Oh my gosh, I'll get that photo

1214
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: shoot with us on the motorcycle. Remember the motorcycle, A

1215
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: leather jackets, those yellow boots. I have had dreams about

1216
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: those yellow boots.

1217
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: Oh the cowboy boots.

1218
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, where do you find cowboy boots? I want

1219
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: I want to x cowboy boots.

1220
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 4: I mean the you know, there's a cool I don't

1221
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 4: know if it's still there. I mean at the swap

1222
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 4: meet first. Okay, you were you say seven? You?

1223
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: Yes, you were seven six and a half because my

1224
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: feet shrunk after children.

1225
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 6: But yes, remember remember, I'll have to look.

1226
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 4: I might have the yellow maybe not those, Yeah, but

1227
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 4: I I was a big cowboy boot girl.

1228
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: I remember, I have a fantastic picture. I'm going to

1229
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: find it. I have a fantastic picture of you and

1230
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: I and you were wearing.

1231
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: But you all signed it.

1232
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 3: I know, look how and I loved that outfit too,

1233
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: that that little skirt.

1234
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 4: Can you show it?

1235
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 6: Can you show me again? Show it one more time?

1236
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: My little upside down.

1237
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 6: I don't think, Oh, there it is. I was like,

1238
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 6: I don't think I signed it. There it is. There

1239
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 6: we go, gotcha.

1240
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if this was funny.

1241
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 3: And the shrouds we was that? Was that the sign

1242
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: on your door?

1243
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1244
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, costume goddess. I remember that.

1245
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 4: Yes, my business card still says costume goddess.

1246
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 6: Are you still in the most colorful house on the block?

1247
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 4: It's not purple? I I know I saw that house.

1248
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 4: I'm a happy renter.

1249
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 6: I remember you and I were in It was either

1250
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 6: my car your car.

1251
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 5: We had lunch or something, and you drove me by

1252
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 5: your old house and you're like, three guesses which house

1253
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 5: is mine?

1254
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 6: Gray? White, gray, right, bright purple? Like was like, I'm

1255
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 6: guessing that one.

1256
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 4: You're like, uh huh, I love that house. That was

1257
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 4: That's so funny.

1258
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: We had a limited, relatively short amount of time with you,

1259
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: and yet, to be honest, and this is not a

1260
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: diss to anybody who came before or after you, but

1261
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: we don't remember any other wardrobe people. We truly we

1262
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: were talking about when you left, and then we were like,

1263
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: and so then who came next?

1264
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 4: I remember Julie, she didn't come to I think, wasn't

1265
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 4: she after me?

1266
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: She was in between.

1267
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was like six or seven.

1268
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 6: I remember Julie, but and I remember Sarah, And that's

1269
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 6: kind of it.

1270
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 7: So, yeah, well then Girl Meets World, right, Yes, we

1271
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 7: did Girl Meets World, and there was a lot of

1272
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 7: There was a lot there was a contentious wardrobe situation

1273
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 7: on that show as well.

1274
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: Really yeah, that's Disney Channel, which would have been a

1275
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 2: different vibe. And I feel like, yeah, I mean there

1276
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 2: was a you know, what's what's interesting is like, you know,

1277
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: there's always this tension you also want to look cool

1278
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 2: or contemporary, and like, what I love about what you did,

1279
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: Sarah is that it wasn't that concerned with that, do

1280
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? It was like you and

1281
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: I remember thinking why is everybody dressing a little different?

1282
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: And then realizing that we were ahead of the curve

1283
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: like that that the looks that you were picking for

1284
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 2: us were becoming popular after like a year or two.

1285
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 3: To set the tone.

1286
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 2: Yes, it was incredible.

1287
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 4: I think I tried to do that on Twin Peaks

1288
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 4: as well. I mean, you know, I always joke about

1289
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 4: we were mad about plaid, like you know, became like

1290
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 4: a cool you know, it was a really big thing.

1291
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 4: And again, you never know what's gonna you know, take off,

1292
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 4: or what people are gonna adapt, or what's gonna work

1293
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: or not. You know, it's again I wish I could

1294
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 4: say because I went to the Fashion Institute and I

1295
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 4: learned this, or you know, I think growing up, you know,

1296
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: as a rich kind of snob in Beverly Hills and

1297
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 4: my mom taking me to sax or you know, special

1298
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 4: expensive stores, and I would come on, I did that

1299
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 4: Flashdan sweatshirt long before that movie, right, I was cutting

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Speaker 4: off clothes and my poor you know, snobby mom.

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Speaker 3: Was like mortified, why are you cutting.

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Speaker 4: Wearing sweatshirts, putting the shirt sleeves as pants, you know,

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Speaker 4: wearing like like you know, yeah, she was like horrified

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Speaker 4: that you know, she would buy me these beautiful, expensive

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Speaker 4: clothes and I would come home and cut the sleeves

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Speaker 4: off her, you know, and so the sleeves on.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It just was I didn't want to look like everybody else,

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Speaker 4: you know, I really growing up the way that I did,

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Speaker 4: and I was very lucky. I just didn't want to

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Speaker 4: be a number at Beverly High. That's why I left

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Speaker 4: there and I went to Windward, which you know, you

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Speaker 4: have to have money to go to and so you

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Speaker 4: think going to a rich private school, there all going

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Speaker 4: to be awful people like they were at Beverly High.

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Speaker 4: But we were artists, we weren't. You know. It was

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Speaker 4: a different upbringing than than you know, being a number.

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Speaker 4: I had twelve people in my graduating class at Beverly High.

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Speaker 4: I probably would have had twelve hundred people, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean.

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Speaker 6: I was a person.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't a number, and same at Bennington, like I

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Speaker 4: think there's only like four hundred people or six hundred

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Speaker 4: people in the whole school.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was always important for me to not stand out,

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Speaker 4: but to be individual, and I think I tried to

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Speaker 4: do that through my work with you know, creating characters,

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Speaker 4: because we're not all cookie cutter molds of you know,

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Speaker 4: and people often say they think and producers think, oh,

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Speaker 4: what's the big deal? I get dressed every day. Okay,

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Speaker 4: you do, but creating characters is not that, you know,

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Speaker 4: and they would always.

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Speaker 2: Exclus more than that.

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Speaker 4: I think it's still true to this day, you know,

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Speaker 4: saying oh, I have to work on the weekend, and

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Speaker 4: they say no, but the art department, you know, they

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Speaker 4: change the script on a Friday night, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: they add a new set, and so they'll approve the

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Speaker 4: art department to work on the weekend because they don't

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Speaker 4: add a room on their houses over the weekend. Right,

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Speaker 4: get dressed every day, so there isn't you know. They like, well,

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Speaker 4: what's the big deal? You just go into the closet,

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Speaker 4: And on some levels they're right, it's not a big deal.

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Speaker 4: But it depending on the script or what it might be,

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Speaker 4: you just don't know.

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Speaker 6: You know, it takes time. I mean, it takes time.

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Speaker 6: It takes talent.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and I don't know about about you guys,

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Speaker 4: but I don't alter my clothes like fifty pins to pin.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, but it's like the cobbler shoes,

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Speaker 4: So you know, do all do you know your clothes

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Speaker 4: are altered? And you know, or they're there, they don't

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Speaker 4: want I don't want them to look brand news, so

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Speaker 4: they're washed so they're soft, or they're overdyed so they're

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Speaker 4: not bright white because the photography doesn't want to shoot

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Speaker 4: something that's white. So you have to I mean, you

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Speaker 4: don't just go to the gap or any store and

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Speaker 4: necessarily walk out and put that shut it on what

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Speaker 4: on and go straight to camera. There's there are many

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Speaker 4: more steps involved in it, you know, so it is

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Speaker 4: a little bit different than you know, just getting dressed.

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Speaker 4: But you know, there isn't but which is good that

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Speaker 4: they don't get it in some way because they don't recognize.

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Speaker 4: But as you all know, as actors, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of thought that goes into it. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure for you too, how you're going to

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Speaker 4: deliver the line or what your feelings are in that scene,

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Speaker 4: or how you're gonna represent that person. And you know,

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Speaker 4: so it's a team sport, it really is. And if

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Speaker 4: any part of it doesn't work, then then I feel

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Speaker 4: for me, I haven't done my job if it doesn't

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Speaker 4: feel right for you guys as as actors.

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Speaker 1: Well, you definitely made us feel like we were in

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Speaker 1: on on the process. I mean, you've influenced all of us.

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Speaker 1: Like Will said, he still feels like he's you know,

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Speaker 1: all he's ever trying to do is Sarah Markowitz himself.

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Speaker 1: And I really attribute my love of vintage clothing. You say, Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to send you a picture I have. I

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Speaker 1: bought a vintage dress gosh, maybe like six months ago,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know how to style it.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to send it to you because I think

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Speaker 3: you're gonna love it.

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Speaker 1: It's so it seems so you, and so I'm going

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Speaker 1: to send it to you and see if you can

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Speaker 1: help me style it and come up with something for it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great cowboy boots, I know cowboys, Choky Belt.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I know.

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Speaker 4: Dede said, hold on, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure that don't get them. Go get those yellow

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Speaker 3: boots right now.

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Speaker 1: I want to see them.

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Speaker 3: What if she has the yellow boots? You guys, DEDI

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Speaker 3: had the lobster and blew our minds.

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Speaker 1: If she actually walks out with these yellow boots, so

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Speaker 1: these must have been hers and she's also a size seven.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that's how she remembered my eyes.

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Speaker 1: Because she's probably going, yeah, it was easy for me

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Speaker 1: to throw you into cool shoes I had. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, for all of our dear listeners who are

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Speaker 1: wondering what we're talking about exactly, we have all of

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Speaker 1: the images we talked about today with Sarah and we

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Speaker 1: will be posting all of them so you get to

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Speaker 1: follow along with us and you can see exactly what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't look at those hollow ones. They might Oh,

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Speaker 4: I can go to the other place. But I have

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Speaker 4: the pink ones.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, you look at those.

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01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 4: Because these are too small for me. But like you said,

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Speaker 4: you know, when something's good, you just have to keep it.

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01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 4: And yes, wow, it's too small for me, but they

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01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 4: might fit you.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'll buy them from you. Whatever they are,

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 3: whatever you whatever they are, I want them.

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 6: I want them.

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Speaker 4: Please. It's so funny because on the United States about

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Speaker 4: one of my actresses, who you know, I think if

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Speaker 4: you saw her clothes, you would understand, Oh that's Sarah definitely,

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01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 4: but she is the nine. So she was wearing my boots,

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Speaker 4: like a lot of my boots I would put on her.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's funny.

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Speaker 1: So I just said when you walked away, I said,

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Speaker 1: I bet Sarah is a seven, which is how you

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Speaker 1: remembered that I was a seven.

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Speaker 3: So I wasn't sharing your.

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01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 4: Shoes, I used, Well, I used to be like a

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Speaker 4: seven and a half. Okay, And the true of the

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01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 4: matter is not unlike you said about those shoes, it

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 4: depends how much I like the shoe. Right then you

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01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 4: just wear them, you know, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you wear bigger socks, you know, it's just the things.

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01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you put an insert if they're too big. You

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 3: can put an insert in the shoe the socks. Yeah, exactly,

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 3: you'll find a way.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Well, we cannot thank you enough for spending

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Speaker 1: the time with us here today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. She was so fun. She was

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 3: exactly like I.

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01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: Remember her, exactly as I remember the best, so good

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: at her job.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I imagine that there are listeners out there who have,

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Speaker 2: based on listening to this now want to be a

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01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 2: costume designers, like because you know, it's one of those

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: things you probably don't all think about, Like you know why,

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01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: it's it's such a cool job. I would never wanted

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01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 2: because I have no ability in this area. But like

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Speaker 2: if you have that skill set and you enjoy shopping

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01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: for clothes or finding you know, it's such a it's

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01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 2: such an amazing way to express yourself. It's such an

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: interesting artistic engagement. It's such a what a cool thing.

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01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 3: I know, it is so cool, and she really set

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Speaker 3: the tone.

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Speaker 5: You will like I hate them all everybody, but again,

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01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 5: like like in Danielle, our favorite movie are close to

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01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 5: our favorite movie Defending Your Life, where every just wears

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 5: the tupa. Everybody just goes and wears the same, the

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01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,680
Speaker 5: single one piece thing. It's orm absolutely we're all in

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Speaker 5: togas or whatever, and that's it just super simple.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have I have friends who have sent

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Speaker 1: their kids to private school specifically because the stress for

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01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: them of figuring out what they're going to wear and

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: it needed to be something that seems cool and the

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: fitting in. They want to go to a place with

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: you know, uniforms, so that they get to take that

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Speaker 1: off their plate. But man, okay, so cool. Well, thank

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