WEBVTT - Changeup in the juror’s box has the defense a bit pressed (or is this ammunition in appeals?)

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<v Speaker 1>George.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren

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<v Speaker 3>came in.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, it's Lauren Rosa and this is the latest

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<v Speaker 2>with Lauren Rosa. This is your daily dig on all

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<v Speaker 2>things pop culture, entertainment, news, and the conversations that shake

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<v Speaker 2>the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we do the behind the scenes of the grind.

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<v Speaker 3>Check in.

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<v Speaker 2>Grind and I just left a private, very intimate listening

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<v Speaker 2>party for the new Clips Pushing T and Malice album,

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<v Speaker 2>Let God sort Of Out. The album is coming on

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<v Speaker 2>July eleven, five, so of this year, and I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>say of this year because I know, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Clips fans have been waiting for a while for the album,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is coming. It is a thing, and man,

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<v Speaker 2>when I tell y'all it is fire, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>left there so inspire. They had this private listening event

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<v Speaker 2>at at the Rock Nation offices here in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and they invited they invited me and me and Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>one of y'all know Brandon used to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast sometimes. But me and Brandon went and uh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>when I tell y'all, I am so inspired. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this last three weeks, two to three weeks, Charlotmagne

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<v Speaker 2>has been yelling at me so much just about like

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<v Speaker 2>the quality of my work and making sure I stay

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<v Speaker 2>up with things and you know, just like digging deeper

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<v Speaker 2>and just not slipping. To be honest with you, like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot happening at once, a lot coming at

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<v Speaker 2>me at once, and things are moving, things are going great.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's good to have like people on

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<v Speaker 2>you like even be He's always like checking in, like

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<v Speaker 2>are you good? You know what I mean, sending me

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<v Speaker 2>things and you know, suggesting things and you know they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're really just it's very much mentor ish vibes. Even so,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like Big Bro and tonight when I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the clips listening event, I was like, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the longevity of their career and not even just

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<v Speaker 2>the longevity of their career, but just the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they are about their talent. It is so inspiring. So

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm checking in right now, I'm feeling inspired. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>feeling you know, intentional. I'm going to do a full

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<v Speaker 2>breakdown on the breakfast Club of the event.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't even like an event.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really like a private like listening, like there

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<v Speaker 2>were other people there, of course, but it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 2>a full, big, major event. They're going to do an

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<v Speaker 2>official release party, but this was just like a private

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<v Speaker 2>listening prior too. So I'll be doing a full breakdown

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<v Speaker 2>in a breakfast club of like what we experienced and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the amazing things that we heard and what

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<v Speaker 2>I can reveal we will talk about. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm doing a check in right now me recording

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, I have to leave that event inspired and intentional?

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<v Speaker 3>Are the words? Okay, leave it at that. No, you girl,

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<v Speaker 3>love to take y'all a court. Love to take y'all

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<v Speaker 3>a court.

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<v Speaker 2>But getting on into the latest, uh, you know there

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<v Speaker 2>is always a lot going on in court with Diddy. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the child of Sean Colmbs. Can y'all believe

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<v Speaker 2>that we have been reporting on.

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<v Speaker 3>This for six weeks now we.

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<v Speaker 2>Are two weeks away, just about two weeks away from

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<v Speaker 2>finding out the fate of one of the biggest entertainers

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, one of the biggest hip hop names

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, one of the biggest you know, music

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<v Speaker 2>producers in the world. I would have never I think

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<v Speaker 2>about this every day when I'm in court and I

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<v Speaker 2>see Diddy sitting in court, I would have never in

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<v Speaker 2>a million years, growing up as someone who was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>inspired by the lifestyle that he bring presented in the

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration he presented in the you know, the hustle and

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, just the career and the persona of

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<v Speaker 2>of Sean Holmes and what that was and what that

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<v Speaker 2>was to the Coulture, I would have never thought that

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<v Speaker 2>I would be where I am today reporting on him

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<v Speaker 2>being incarcerated and looking at like literally fighting for his

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<v Speaker 2>life at this point in court. I never thought that

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about that today, like, man, like this is wild.

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<v Speaker 3>And I am like, you know, I'm my family.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know him personally, and I feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine how he feels. I can't imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>his kids feel because they're in the court room every

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<v Speaker 2>day as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just insane. But yes, we are, you know, about

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks away.

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<v Speaker 2>From you know, finding out the fate of Sean Holmes,

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<v Speaker 2>and people ask me all the time, Like even when

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<v Speaker 2>I was out at the CLIPS event today, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had you know a few people come up to

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<v Speaker 2>me and just you know, talk to me about the

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<v Speaker 2>reporting and just being in the court because a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, you know, especially people I'm meeting, they either

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<v Speaker 2>know him personally because they've been in the industry as

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<v Speaker 2>DJs or hosts or you know, whatever they do for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, or they've either interacted with him because business,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, they are fans of him as well,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, we're fans of the movement. And people

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<v Speaker 2>are just so invested because he's been such a narrator

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<v Speaker 2>of our lives and of our culture for so long,

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<v Speaker 2>and so many people were coming up to me and

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<v Speaker 2>asking me, you know what I thought was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know what they can look out for, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know how like what most people want to know

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<v Speaker 2>just what the feeling is in court, whether you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the overflow room, whether you're in the main courtroom.

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<v Speaker 3>People want to know, like, yo, what is it like?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Like what is that like? What is it like seeing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, all all of the things. And today

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<v Speaker 2>I realized, I'm like, man, this is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talked about for decades to come because of things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like people just being so invested because Diddy, Sean Colmbe's

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<v Speaker 2>pub daddy whatever, you know him as was literally one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most integral parts of hip hop, of music,

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<v Speaker 2>of entertainment, of motivation, of inspiration, of lifestyle, of marketing

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<v Speaker 2>in the last like twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's crazy, It is so crazy to see. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I keep it honest when people ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>I keep it honest. And what I've been saying for

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<v Speaker 2>a while is that, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have my own opinions about what I

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<v Speaker 2>think will happen, and we'll talk more about that as

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution the government closes their arguments, which is set

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<v Speaker 2>to happen by Friday of this week. They've already started,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, gathering and doing the things that they're doing

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<v Speaker 2>with their summary witnesses this week.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, today was.

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<v Speaker 2>Interested day in court because they played freak off videos

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<v Speaker 2>for the jewelry, which I'm not even gonna lie to

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<v Speaker 2>y'all when I say that government has been moving smart.

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<v Speaker 2>They've people, it's like they've been like it's like they're

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<v Speaker 2>silent killers. To be honest with y'all, Like, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the way that this was approached in the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning with you know, the SWAT season a home and

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<v Speaker 2>doing the searches by landing by sea and all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt so right there in your face. And then

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<v Speaker 3>when you get.

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<v Speaker 2>In court you realize, well, maybe it's not right there

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<v Speaker 2>in your face, but the government is showing you these

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<v Speaker 2>things were there, these you know, these these elements were there,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it was subtle, right, But by them showing

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<v Speaker 2>these freak off tapes at the end, because already told y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like Jane Doe as their last like major

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<v Speaker 2>most recent girlfriend witness, like homegirl is all over the place, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say she doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Speak to certain things that the government is trying to prove,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just feel like the credibility of her it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the best taste to end off on in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I'm just giving my opinion, right, But then

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<v Speaker 2>they follow up with playing these freak off tapes, And

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<v Speaker 2>when they played them in court, it had already been

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<v Speaker 2>decided from the first first day, first week of official

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<v Speaker 2>court that anything that was that you know, sexual and

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<v Speaker 2>content and you know the meaning to any parties involved,

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<v Speaker 2>or just anything like that, because you know, they want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure these women can't be blackmailed. Or things

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<v Speaker 2>on circulate or things on league, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a very it's very sensitive content. They had already

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<v Speaker 2>said we were not going to play them in the

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<v Speaker 2>courtroom like out loud, and they were like, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that everyone has on headphones.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's able to listen to them.

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<v Speaker 2>So the jewelry was able to listen to them, not

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<v Speaker 2>even the gallery of attorneys or anything like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>from what I was told, you know, the drawors themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they have to watch it. It's a part

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<v Speaker 2>of their job at this point. But you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been reports of some drawers giggling. There's been reports of

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<v Speaker 2>some drawers, you know, being really into it. I was

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<v Speaker 2>told by a friend that was in the main courtroom

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<v Speaker 2>today that the attorneys, you know, the defense attorneys, Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Comb's attorneys did.

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<v Speaker 3>These attorneys were.

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<v Speaker 2>Annoyed, like they were so mad that those videos are

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<v Speaker 2>being played at this point in the case. They were

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<v Speaker 2>visibly making facial expressions and you know, just things of

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<v Speaker 2>that nature. And I mean, I get it on their side,

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<v Speaker 2>I get what they're annoyed, because you got to think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. You hear all these things about women saying

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Allegedly, I was made to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Allegedly, money caused me to do it, allegedly, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the fear of what he might do to me caused

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<v Speaker 2>me to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And then if you but you haven't seen it,

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<v Speaker 2>you've just heard about it, and you've seen the the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the allege you know bruises from the violence,

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<v Speaker 2>and you've seen text messages about the alleged blackmailing and

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things. And then one of the cherries

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<v Speaker 2>on top is that you see video of what the

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<v Speaker 2>physical act was.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>For a lot of us that like I think for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's different, right, Like being in the courtroom is very

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<v Speaker 2>different because I've experienced so much entertainment culture wise before

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<v Speaker 2>coming into the courtroom. A lot of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the people I'm meeting and the journalists I'm meeting, this

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<v Speaker 2>is their first time interacting with you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the people that are being mentioned and brought on

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<v Speaker 2>the stand.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it's a bit different because.

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<v Speaker 2>Living in la and working in entertainment and being a

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<v Speaker 2>person that's like out and about. I ain't never seen

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<v Speaker 2>nothing crazy, but I've been to, you know, the parties

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<v Speaker 2>I've experienced and been around certain things and seen certain things.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't and again I don't know people personally, but

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<v Speaker 2>to have seen that and have seen it multiple different times,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, over the eight years that I was in.

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<v Speaker 3>LA and then to not know the gravity of it, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you heard rumors about certain things, I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in the court every day like I cannot believe that

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<v Speaker 2>this is real. So to hear all of these stories, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all of the allegations that surround the stories,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you're building your thought process and your you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all of these things around that. And then within the

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<v Speaker 2>final few days that the government is speaking to you,

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<v Speaker 2>they show you what literally the visual of Okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>you've you've heard all of what the you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>force allegedly and the here's why, right, but here's the what,

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<v Speaker 2>here's exactly what was made to go down, and you

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<v Speaker 2>see it. I'm like, oh baby, ate that two shade,

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<v Speaker 2>well played? Well played.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, we had talked a lot about during number six

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<v Speaker 2>and whether that dismissal was going to happen or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked about it on the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned it briefly here, but you know a little

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<v Speaker 2>background Durr six had, you know, some issues.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge really didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the fact that Jurer number six had mentioned that

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<v Speaker 2>he lived one place and then mentioned that he leaved another.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, there's like a whole jurisdiction thing of

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, living in New York because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>southern district of New York.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a case and just different.

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<v Speaker 2>Things, right, But more importantly, because the judge didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>mention the jurisdiction thing, the judge Moresa was focused a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on this draw, said one thing and then said another.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to know if this draw.

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<v Speaker 2>Is inconsistent, not telling the truth and not able to

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<v Speaker 2>take direction, because that matters. The judge today decided to

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<v Speaker 2>dismiss that during now that dur was really important to

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy and team because again, like I mentioned on the

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<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Club, this is a black dur who is from

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<v Speaker 2>you know, allegedly from the Bronx, grew up on nineties

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy's team is alleging it's not really diverse.

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<v Speaker 2>Up in here, y'all, Like we need this drawer, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the judge pointed out today though, and he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of Diddy's attorneys themselves have commended how diverse.

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<v Speaker 3>This jury is, so we're not about to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, that duror is not staying on.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to Sonny from the view just give some

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<v Speaker 2>remarks on Dura number six been dismissed. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>Sonny in court a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, i've seen her in court a lot, and I

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<v Speaker 2>thought her take was interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take a listen.

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<v Speaker 4>The game changer that just happened is that they replaced

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<v Speaker 4>one of the jurors an alternate.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he had a shady address. History is what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, this is a federal case, and you really

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<v Speaker 4>it's in the Southern District of New York, so you

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<v Speaker 4>have to live in New York. This guy was he

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<v Speaker 4>said he lived in the Bronx, and we prosecution found out,

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<v Speaker 4>and the government found out, and I think the defense

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<v Speaker 4>also found out he was actually living in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is that disqualifying and.

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<v Speaker 3>So be a mis trial too or no, it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>A mistrial basis, I don't think. But the defense certainly

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<v Speaker 4>tried to keep him. He was a black guy from

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<v Speaker 4>the Bronx. I've been watching him. He is not buying

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<v Speaker 4>what the prosecution is selling, really, and so the defense

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<v Speaker 4>really wanted to keep him right he was he was

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<v Speaker 4>a fan of nineties hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if that's the reason they get thrown off

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<v Speaker 3>exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's it's it's a significant loss, I think to

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<v Speaker 4>the defense in terms of the diversity of the jury.

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<v Speaker 4>There's still eight men and for juror for women, but

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<v Speaker 4>now he was replaced by an older white man in

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<v Speaker 4>his late fifties who is an architect from Westchester.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the reason why I thought this was interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you know, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>there are other black jurors. It might not be full

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<v Speaker 2>of black jewors, but there are other black jurors. But

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that it was interesting because in court, Diddy

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<v Speaker 2>himself physically waved his hand when the judge said, are

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<v Speaker 2>you willing to wave your right to appeal if.

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<v Speaker 3>This duror is kept right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at this point Diddy's team is fighting for

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<v Speaker 2>every inch in straw that they have to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that this goes down the way it needs to go down.

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying for ms chials every minute they get they

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<v Speaker 2>want every juror that might at any point have any

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<v Speaker 2>sympathy or empathy for Diddy at all. So her take

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<v Speaker 2>was very interesting because I didn't look at Durer number

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<v Speaker 2>six being dismissed as such a deal breaker. To be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you guys, I feel like what will really

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<v Speaker 2>make or break this case will be the way that

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy's team presents their defense, because I do think the

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<v Speaker 2>government has done a really good job at presenting their case,

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<v Speaker 2>if even on on a smaller level. When I say

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<v Speaker 2>a smaller level, I mean even if it's not him

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<v Speaker 2>spending the rest of his life behind bars. They've shown

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<v Speaker 2>elements of the crimes that they are alleging, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that it's a race thing. I get where

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<v Speaker 2>they're coming from, of course, and I understand that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a black Durer from the Bronx who listens to nineties

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<v Speaker 2>hip hop is gonna he's going to have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more influence over that duror, right, But I think bigger

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<v Speaker 2>picture here, whether white, black, nineties hip hop or not,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're looking at the facts, so what they should be,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that should be the focus. But I get

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<v Speaker 2>it though, because I think I would hate to be

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<v Speaker 2>a durer on this case as well, because, or any case,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you just stay focused on the facts. If

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<v Speaker 2>you are a person who grew up on Sean Colmb's

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<v Speaker 2>and in the height of his heyday in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>in those things like it, it's very hard not to

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<v Speaker 2>let personal bias or personal implications come into this. I've

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<v Speaker 2>also been feeling like that from the beginning as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, how do you sell social media? How do

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<v Speaker 2>you not talk to anybody about this? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>not let personal things come into this? I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the answer to that, but we will see. But from

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling that I've been gathering just from being in

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<v Speaker 2>the courtroom and watching the jurors and those you know,

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<v Speaker 2>opening days that they did all the jury selection, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>some of these people on this jury don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>who Sean Combs is for real, for real, Like they

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<v Speaker 2>know him a bit. They might know him, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, like in pasting or maybe heard the name,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were several people who weren't even truly familiar

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that was influential, right, Like his celebrity

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<v Speaker 2>is not influential on them. So you got to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about winning over those because it's not like the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of the jury is black.

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<v Speaker 3>And I get it. You want to keep what you

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<v Speaker 3>can get, take what you can get is.

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<v Speaker 2>A model of the game when you're fighting for your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand, But I just think that Diddy's team

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<v Speaker 2>has so much bigger things to worry about when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to this jury and making sure that they are

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<v Speaker 2>thinking the way that they need them the theme.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Judge Mathist spoke to TMZ.

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<v Speaker 2>He actually said something pretty interesting because at first, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mentioned to you guys that didiot said that

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<v Speaker 2>he was down to appeal his ability to I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>he was on the wave his ability to appeal any

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<v Speaker 2>decision that was made in court if this duror was dismissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the juror, I mean was not dismissed. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>durer was dismissed. So you know, that whole conversation goes

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<v Speaker 2>out the window. So Judge Matthis said this about what

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks an appeal could look like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that certainly there could have been another residence

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<v Speaker 1>that he was staying with his girlfriend, right, so he's

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<v Speaker 1>going back and forth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's frequent.

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<v Speaker 1>And so in that sense, he could still be living

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<v Speaker 1>within the jurisdiction of the jury pool. But additionally, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the fact that they did not give a full

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<v Speaker 1>hearing to the defense to be able to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>AffA Davis, to be able to bring in utility bills,

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<v Speaker 1>things of that nature that would prove that he's a

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<v Speaker 1>resident of the Bronx, I think that's what should have

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<v Speaker 1>occurred before removing him. And in fact, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>should make emotion now to revisit it.

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<v Speaker 3>You think that this is a good grounds for appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think it would be because you haven't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>a proper opportunity to prove residency. And on the other

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<v Speaker 1>juror getting this text message, Let's be real, those folks

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<v Speaker 1>on the jury, they tell someone that loved one whomever

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<v Speaker 1>that they're on the jury, and then the word gets out.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not gonna lie to y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally telling someone today at the clips the

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<v Speaker 2>private listening that we went to. I said, because someone

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<v Speaker 2>asked me like, do you think Diddy is just going

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<v Speaker 2>to walk free?

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, to be honest with you, I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not an attorney, but just from what I've

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<v Speaker 2>been watching and listening to based on the elements of

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<v Speaker 2>the crime that the government has to prove.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not think he is going to walk free.

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<v Speaker 2>However, if he does, it'll be on technicalities or appeals

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<v Speaker 2>of things that are very like you wouldn't even think

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<v Speaker 2>about them, something like this, like what Judge matth Is is saying, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you can prove all of that in a

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<v Speaker 2>post conversation that like, hey, based on the facts, because

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<v Speaker 2>everything in court, and that's why people don't think about

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.520
<v Speaker 2>it's like everything in court is based on fact, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So based on facts. If I can prove that my

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<v Speaker 2>residence is where I told you ILL was in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was dismissed for no reason, and Diddy's team

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<v Speaker 2>is able to make the point that they feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the jury was a bit less diverse and more prejudice

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 2>because of that dismissal, he.

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<v Speaker 3>Got something there.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think that's going to be hard for him

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<v Speaker 2>to do that, though, because his lawyers have come out

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<v Speaker 2>of their mouth and talked about how diverse the jury

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<v Speaker 2>was and how grateful they were for that. But if

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<v Speaker 2>he can do it, he got it, and I'm hey,

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<v Speaker 2>at your fighting for your life, You're you're doing whatever

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<v Speaker 2>by any means necessary, by any means necessary. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>like to stay very optimistic until the very end of things,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To do that within this case.

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<v Speaker 2>But and maybe also to One of the things I

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking about today as well, is like, as the

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.200
<v Speaker 2>government raps their case, one of the things we got

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<v Speaker 2>to think about is we've really only heard from the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Diddy's team has got up and cross examined

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that, we haven't seen them lay out

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<v Speaker 2>their case. When I tell y'all, they got to lay

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<v Speaker 2>out their case. The show they got to put on

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be better than Beyonce on the run of Renaissance.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to tell y'all it is light's camera action

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<v Speaker 2>for them because the y'all listen, let me know how

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 2>y'all are feeling. I want to know if you guys

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<v Speaker 2>agree with Sonny.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to take it to the streets. Take it

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<v Speaker 3>to the tweets, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You call the tweets outside, we outside, we outside outside.

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<v Speaker 2>If you guys agree with Sonny that your number six.

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<v Speaker 2>This black juror being dismissed is a huge loss for

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy's team, but also a game changer because of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he can do the appeal.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you feel like it's incremental, it's nothing to focus on.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me know, tweet me, instagram all of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know, because as we go throughout this

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<v Speaker 2>next week, literally this week, because Diddy's team wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>letter and said they are going to request a mistrial

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<v Speaker 2>if that happens, So we're going to see that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that he'll be granted a mistrial whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that he'll be able to be heard

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<v Speaker 2>on appeal because of this matter, just again because of

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<v Speaker 2>like the because of checks and balances, right, because of

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<v Speaker 2>the logistics, because of the way things go. I think

0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>he can be heard on appeal because of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see a mistrial happening because of this.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know they gonna go for it. So let

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<v Speaker 3>me know what y'all think.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all grew with Judge mathis is this worth Diddy's team

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<v Speaker 2>appealing and winning an appeal on something as small as this.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all gotta remember people like a lot of not comparing

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<v Speaker 2>it to completely separate. But Bill Cosby, Bill Cosby came

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<v Speaker 2>home on the technicality, not because he was proved not guilty.

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<v Speaker 2>He came home because somebody didn't cross their tee and

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<v Speaker 2>dot their I.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Laura de Rosa and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>there is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot to talk about and y'all know I want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from y'all. Today's episode is definitely one of the

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<v Speaker 2>ones where I want y'all to chime on in tweet

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<v Speaker 2>me at Laura rosa Instagram. You know y'all be posting

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<v Speaker 2>y'all insert stories lowriters.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>At Laura Rosa as well. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>there's always a lot to talk about it. Y'all could

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<v Speaker 2>be anywhere but anybody talking about it, but y'all choose to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be right here with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I appreciate y'all for I will see you guys

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<v Speaker 2>in my next episode.