1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: George. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: and everybody. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 3: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 3: came in. 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's Lauren Rosa and this is the latest 7 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: with Lauren Rosa. This is your daily dig on all 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: things pop culture, entertainment, news, and the conversations that shake 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: the room. 10 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Now we do the behind the scenes of the grind. 11 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 3: Check in. 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: Grind and I just left a private, very intimate listening 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: party for the new Clips Pushing T and Malice album, 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Let God sort Of Out. The album is coming on 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: July eleven, five, so of this year, and I gotta 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: say of this year because I know, you know, the 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Clips fans have been waiting for a while for the album, 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: but it is coming. It is a thing, and man, 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: when I tell y'all it is fire, I'm like, I 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: left there so inspire. They had this private listening event 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: at at the Rock Nation offices here in New York, 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: and they invited they invited me and me and Brandon, 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: one of y'all know Brandon used to be on the 24 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: podcast sometimes. But me and Brandon went and uh, like, 25 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: when I tell y'all, I am so inspired. I feel 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: like this last three weeks, two to three weeks, Charlotmagne 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: has been yelling at me so much just about like 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: the quality of my work and making sure I stay 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: up with things and you know, just like digging deeper 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: and just not slipping. To be honest with you, like 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot happening at once, a lot coming at 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: me at once, and things are moving, things are going great. 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 2: But you know, it's good to have like people on 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: you like even be He's always like checking in, like 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: are you good? You know what I mean, sending me 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: things and you know, suggesting things and you know they're 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 2: they're really just it's very much mentor ish vibes. Even so, 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: it's like Big Bro and tonight when I went to 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: the clips listening event, I was like, I get it. 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: Like the longevity of their career and not even just 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: the longevity of their career, but just the way that 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: they are about their talent. It is so inspiring. So 43 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: if I'm checking in right now, I'm feeling inspired. I'm 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: feeling you know, intentional. I'm going to do a full 45 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: breakdown on the breakfast Club of the event. 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't even like an event. 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: It was really like a private like listening, like there 48 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: were other people there, of course, but it wasn't like 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: a full, big, major event. They're going to do an 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: official release party, but this was just like a private 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: listening prior too. So I'll be doing a full breakdown 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 2: in a breakfast club of like what we experienced and 53 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, the amazing things that we heard and what 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: I can reveal we will talk about. But you know, 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: if I'm doing a check in right now me recording 56 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: this podcast, I have to leave that event inspired and intentional? 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Are the words? Okay, leave it at that. No, you girl, 58 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: love to take y'all a court. Love to take y'all 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: a court. 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: But getting on into the latest, uh, you know there 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: is always a lot going on in court with Diddy. Uh, 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: you know, the child of Sean Colmbs. Can y'all believe 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: that we have been reporting on. 64 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: This for six weeks now we. 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Are two weeks away, just about two weeks away from 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: finding out the fate of one of the biggest entertainers 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: in the world, one of the biggest hip hop names 68 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: in the world, one of the biggest you know, music 69 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: producers in the world. I would have never I think 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: about this every day when I'm in court and I 71 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 2: see Diddy sitting in court, I would have never in 72 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: a million years, growing up as someone who was you know, 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: inspired by the lifestyle that he bring presented in the 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: inspiration he presented in the you know, the hustle and 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: the you know, just the career and the persona of 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: of Sean Holmes and what that was and what that 77 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: was to the Coulture, I would have never thought that 78 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 2: I would be where I am today reporting on him 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: being incarcerated and looking at like literally fighting for his 80 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: life at this point in court. I never thought that 81 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: I thought about that today, like, man, like this is wild. 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: And I am like, you know, I'm my family. 83 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: I don't know him personally, and I feel like that 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: I can't imagine how he feels. I can't imagine how 85 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: his kids feel because they're in the court room every 86 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: day as well. 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: It's just insane. But yes, we are, you know, about 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: two weeks away. 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: From you know, finding out the fate of Sean Holmes, 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: and people ask me all the time, Like even when 91 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: I was out at the CLIPS event today, you know, 92 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 2: I had you know a few people come up to 93 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: me and just you know, talk to me about the 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: reporting and just being in the court because a lot 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: of people, you know, especially people I'm meeting, they either 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: know him personally because they've been in the industry as 97 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: DJs or hosts or you know, whatever they do for 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: a long time, or they've either interacted with him because business, 99 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: or you know, they are fans of him as well, 100 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: or you know, we're fans of the movement. And people 101 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: are just so invested because he's been such a narrator 102 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: of our lives and of our culture for so long, 103 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: and so many people were coming up to me and 104 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: asking me, you know what I thought was going to happen, 105 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: and you know what they can look out for, and 106 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: you know how like what most people want to know 107 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: just what the feeling is in court, whether you're in 108 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: the overflow room, whether you're in the main courtroom. 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: People want to know, like, yo, what is it like? 110 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: Like, Like what is that like? What is it like seeing? 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, all all of the things. And today 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: I realized, I'm like, man, this is going to be 113 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: talked about for decades to come because of things like that, 114 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: like people just being so invested because Diddy, Sean Colmbe's 115 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: pub daddy whatever, you know him as was literally one 116 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: of the most integral parts of hip hop, of music, 117 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: of entertainment, of motivation, of inspiration, of lifestyle, of marketing 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: in the last like twenty years. 119 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 3: Yo. 120 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: Like it's crazy, It is so crazy to see. But 121 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: you know, I keep it honest when people ask me, 122 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: I keep it honest. And what I've been saying for 123 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: a while is that, you know. 124 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 3: I think it's one to watch. 125 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: You know, I have my own opinions about what I 126 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: think will happen, and we'll talk more about that as 127 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: the prosecution the government closes their arguments, which is set 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: to happen by Friday of this week. They've already started, 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, gathering and doing the things that they're doing 130 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: with their summary witnesses this week. 131 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: And you know, today was. 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: Interested day in court because they played freak off videos 133 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: for the jewelry, which I'm not even gonna lie to 134 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: y'all when I say that government has been moving smart. 135 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: They've people, it's like they've been like it's like they're 136 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: silent killers. To be honest with y'all, Like, I think, 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: you know, the way that this was approached in the 138 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: beginning with you know, the SWAT season a home and 139 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: doing the searches by landing by sea and all those things. 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: It felt so right there in your face. And then 141 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: when you get. 142 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 2: In court you realize, well, maybe it's not right there 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: in your face, but the government is showing you these 144 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: things were there, these you know, these these elements were there, 145 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: even if it was subtle, right, But by them showing 146 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: these freak off tapes at the end, because already told y'all, 147 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: I felt like Jane Doe as their last like major 148 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: most recent girlfriend witness, like homegirl is all over the place, right. 149 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: I didn't say she doesn't. 150 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: Speak to certain things that the government is trying to prove, 151 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: but I just feel like the credibility of her it 152 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: wasn't the best taste to end off on in my opinion, 153 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: like if I'm just giving my opinion, right, But then 154 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: they follow up with playing these freak off tapes, And 155 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: when they played them in court, it had already been 156 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: decided from the first first day, first week of official 157 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: court that anything that was that you know, sexual and 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: content and you know the meaning to any parties involved, 159 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: or just anything like that, because you know, they want 160 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: to make sure these women can't be blackmailed. Or things 161 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: on circulate or things on league, and you know, it's 162 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: just a very it's very sensitive content. They had already 163 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: said we were not going to play them in the 164 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: courtroom like out loud, and they were like, we're going 165 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: to make sure that everyone has on headphones. 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: Who's able to listen to them. 167 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: So the jewelry was able to listen to them, not 168 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: even the gallery of attorneys or anything like that. And 169 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: from what I was told, you know, the drawors themselves, 170 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: I mean, they have to watch it. It's a part 171 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 2: of their job at this point. But you know, there's 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: been reports of some drawers giggling. There's been reports of 173 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: some drawers, you know, being really into it. I was 174 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: told by a friend that was in the main courtroom 175 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: today that the attorneys, you know, the defense attorneys, Sean 176 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: Comb's attorneys did. 177 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: These attorneys were. 178 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: Annoyed, like they were so mad that those videos are 179 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: being played at this point in the case. They were 180 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: visibly making facial expressions and you know, just things of 181 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: that nature. And I mean, I get it on their side, 182 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: I get what they're annoyed, because you got to think 183 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: about it. You hear all these things about women saying 184 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: I didn't want to do it. 185 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: Allegedly, I was made to do it. 186 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: Allegedly, money caused me to do it, allegedly, you know, 187 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: the fear of what he might do to me caused 188 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: me to. 189 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: Do it allegedly. 190 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: Right, And then if you but you haven't seen it, 191 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: you've just heard about it, and you've seen the the 192 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: you know, the allege you know bruises from the violence, 193 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: and you've seen text messages about the alleged blackmailing and 194 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: all of these things. And then one of the cherries 195 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: on top is that you see video of what the 196 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: physical act was. 197 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:15,479 Speaker 3: Because I don't think. 198 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: For a lot of us that like I think for me, 199 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: it's different, right, Like being in the courtroom is very 200 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: different because I've experienced so much entertainment culture wise before 201 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: coming into the courtroom. A lot of the you know, 202 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: the people I'm meeting and the journalists I'm meeting, this 203 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: is their first time interacting with you know, a lot 204 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 2: of the people that are being mentioned and brought on 205 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: the stand. 206 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: For me, it's a bit different because. 207 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: Living in la and working in entertainment and being a 208 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: person that's like out and about. I ain't never seen 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: nothing crazy, but I've been to, you know, the parties 210 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: I've experienced and been around certain things and seen certain things. 211 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: So don't and again I don't know people personally, but 212 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: to have seen that and have seen it multiple different times, 213 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: and you know, over the eight years that I was in. 214 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 3: LA and then to not know the gravity of it, like. 215 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: Even if you heard rumors about certain things, I'm sitting 216 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 2: in the court every day like I cannot believe that 217 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: this is real. So to hear all of these stories, right, 218 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: and then all of the allegations that surround the stories, 219 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: and and you're building your thought process and your you know, 220 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: all of these things around that. And then within the 221 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: final few days that the government is speaking to you, 222 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: they show you what literally the visual of Okay, now 223 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: you've you've heard all of what the you know, the 224 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: force allegedly and the here's why, right, but here's the what, 225 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: here's exactly what was made to go down, and you 226 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: see it. I'm like, oh baby, ate that two shade, 227 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: well played? Well played. 228 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: Now. 229 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: Also, we had talked a lot about during number six 230 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: and whether that dismissal was going to happen or not. 231 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 3: I've talked about it on the Breakfast Club. 232 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: I mentioned it briefly here, but you know a little 233 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: background Durr six had, you know, some issues. 234 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: The judge really didn't. 235 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: Like the fact that Jurer number six had mentioned that 236 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: he lived one place and then mentioned that he leaved another. 237 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: And you know, there's like a whole jurisdiction thing of 238 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: like you know, living in New York because it's a 239 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: southern district of New York. 240 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: You know, a case and just different. 241 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: Things, right, But more importantly, because the judge didn't even 242 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: mention the jurisdiction thing, the judge Moresa was focused a 243 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: lot on this draw, said one thing and then said another. 244 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 3: We want to know if this draw. 245 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: Is inconsistent, not telling the truth and not able to 246 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: take direction, because that matters. The judge today decided to 247 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: dismiss that during now that dur was really important to 248 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: Diddy and team because again, like I mentioned on the 249 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, this is a black dur who is from 250 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: you know, allegedly from the Bronx, grew up on nineties 251 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: hip hop. 252 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: Diddy's team is alleging it's not really diverse. 253 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: Up in here, y'all, Like we need this drawer, right, 254 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: the judge pointed out today though, and he said, listen, 255 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: you know, some of Diddy's attorneys themselves have commended how diverse. 256 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: This jury is, so we're not about to do that. 257 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: But no, that duror is not staying on. 258 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: I listened to Sonny from the view just give some 259 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: remarks on Dura number six been dismissed. And I've seen 260 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: Sonny in court a couple of times. 261 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 4: A lot. 262 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 2: Actually, i've seen her in court a lot, and I 263 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: thought her take was interesting. 264 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: Let's take a listen. 265 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: The game changer that just happened is that they replaced 266 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: one of the jurors an alternate. 267 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: Because he had a shady address. History is what it is. 268 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: You know, this is a federal case, and you really 269 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 4: it's in the Southern District of New York, so you 270 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 4: have to live in New York. This guy was he 271 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: said he lived in the Bronx, and we prosecution found out, 272 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 4: and the government found out, and I think the defense 273 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: also found out he was actually living in New Jersey. 274 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: So this is that disqualifying and. 275 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 3: So be a mis trial too or no, it's not. 276 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: A mistrial basis, I don't think. But the defense certainly 277 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: tried to keep him. He was a black guy from 278 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: the Bronx. I've been watching him. He is not buying 279 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: what the prosecution is selling, really, and so the defense 280 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: really wanted to keep him right he was he was 281 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: a fan of nineties hip hop. 282 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 3: You know, if that's the reason they get thrown off 283 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: exactly the same. 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: But it's it's it's a significant loss, I think to 285 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: the defense in terms of the diversity of the jury. 286 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: There's still eight men and for juror for women, but 287 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 4: now he was replaced by an older white man in 288 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: his late fifties who is an architect from Westchester. 289 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: Now, the reason why I thought this was interesting because 290 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, at the end of the day, 291 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: there are other black jurors. It might not be full 292 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: of black jewors, but there are other black jurors. But 293 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: I thought that it was interesting because in court, Diddy 294 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: himself physically waved his hand when the judge said, are 295 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: you willing to wave your right to appeal if. 296 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: This duror is kept right. 297 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: I think at this point Diddy's team is fighting for 298 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: every inch in straw that they have to make sure 299 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: that this goes down the way it needs to go down. 300 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: They're trying for ms chials every minute they get they 301 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: want every juror that might at any point have any 302 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: sympathy or empathy for Diddy at all. So her take 303 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 2: was very interesting because I didn't look at Durer number 304 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: six being dismissed as such a deal breaker. To be 305 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: honest with you guys, I feel like what will really 306 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: make or break this case will be the way that 307 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Diddy's team presents their defense, because I do think the 308 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: government has done a really good job at presenting their case, 309 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: if even on on a smaller level. When I say 310 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: a smaller level, I mean even if it's not him 311 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: spending the rest of his life behind bars. They've shown 312 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: elements of the crimes that they are alleging, and I 313 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: don't think that it's a race thing. I get where 314 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: they're coming from, of course, and I understand that, you know, 315 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: a black Durer from the Bronx who listens to nineties 316 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: hip hop is gonna he's going to have a lot 317 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: more influence over that duror, right, But I think bigger 318 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: picture here, whether white, black, nineties hip hop or not, 319 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: if they're looking at the facts, so what they should be, 320 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: I think that should be the focus. But I get 321 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: it though, because I think I would hate to be 322 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: a durer on this case as well, because, or any case, 323 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: how do you just stay focused on the facts. If 324 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: you are a person who grew up on Sean Colmb's 325 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: and in the height of his heyday in New York, 326 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: in those things like it, it's very hard not to 327 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: let personal bias or personal implications come into this. I've 328 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: also been feeling like that from the beginning as well. 329 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: It's like, how do you sell social media? How do 330 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: you not talk to anybody about this? How do you 331 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: not let personal things come into this? I don't know 332 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: the answer to that, but we will see. But from 333 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: the feeling that I've been gathering just from being in 334 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 2: the courtroom and watching the jurors and those you know, 335 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: opening days that they did all the jury selection, I'm like, 336 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: some of these people on this jury don't even know 337 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 2: who Sean Combs is for real, for real, Like they 338 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: know him a bit. They might know him, you know 339 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: what I mean, like in pasting or maybe heard the name, 340 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 2: but there were several people who weren't even truly familiar 341 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: in a way that was influential, right, Like his celebrity 342 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: is not influential on them. So you got to worry 343 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: about winning over those because it's not like the majority 344 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: of the jury is black. 345 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: And I get it. You want to keep what you 346 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 3: can get, take what you can get is. 347 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: A model of the game when you're fighting for your life. 348 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: I totally understand, But I just think that Diddy's team 349 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: has so much bigger things to worry about when it 350 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: comes to this jury and making sure that they are 351 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: thinking the way that they need them the theme. 352 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: Now, Judge Mathist spoke to TMZ. 353 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: He actually said something pretty interesting because at first, you know, 354 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: and I mentioned to you guys that didiot said that 355 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: he was down to appeal his ability to I'm sorry, 356 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: he was on the wave his ability to appeal any 357 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: decision that was made in court if this duror was dismissed. 358 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: Now the juror, I mean was not dismissed. Now the 359 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: durer was dismissed. So you know, that whole conversation goes 360 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: out the window. So Judge Matthis said this about what 361 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: he thinks an appeal could look like. 362 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: I think that certainly there could have been another residence 363 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: that he was staying with his girlfriend, right, so he's 364 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: going back and forth. 365 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: That's frequent. 366 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: And so in that sense, he could still be living 367 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: within the jurisdiction of the jury pool. But additionally, I 368 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: think the fact that they did not give a full 369 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: hearing to the defense to be able to bring in 370 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: AffA Davis, to be able to bring in utility bills, 371 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: things of that nature that would prove that he's a 372 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: resident of the Bronx, I think that's what should have 373 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: occurred before removing him. And in fact, I think they 374 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: should make emotion now to revisit it. 375 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 3: You think that this is a good grounds for appeal. 376 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it would be because you haven't allowed 377 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: a proper opportunity to prove residency. And on the other 378 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: juror getting this text message, Let's be real, those folks 379 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: on the jury, they tell someone that loved one whomever 380 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: that they're on the jury, and then the word gets out. 381 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie to y'all. 382 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: I was literally telling someone today at the clips the 383 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 2: private listening that we went to. I said, because someone 384 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: asked me like, do you think Diddy is just going 385 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: to walk free? 386 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: I was like, to be honest with you, I do not. 387 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: I am not an attorney, but just from what I've 388 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 2: been watching and listening to based on the elements of 389 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: the crime that the government has to prove. 390 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: I do not think he is going to walk free. 391 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: However, if he does, it'll be on technicalities or appeals 392 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 2: of things that are very like you wouldn't even think 393 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: about them, something like this, like what Judge matth Is is saying, right, 394 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: because if you can prove all of that in a 395 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: post conversation that like, hey, based on the facts, because 396 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 2: everything in court, and that's why people don't think about 397 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: it's like everything in court is based on fact, right, 398 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: So based on facts. If I can prove that my 399 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: residence is where I told you ILL was in the beginning, 400 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 2: and I was dismissed for no reason, and Diddy's team 401 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: is able to make the point that they feel like 402 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: the jury was a bit less diverse and more prejudice 403 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: because of that dismissal, he. 404 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: Got something there. 405 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: I really think that's going to be hard for him 406 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: to do that, though, because his lawyers have come out 407 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: of their mouth and talked about how diverse the jury 408 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: was and how grateful they were for that. But if 409 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: he can do it, he got it, and I'm hey, 410 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: at your fighting for your life, You're you're doing whatever 411 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: by any means necessary, by any means necessary. Now, I 412 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: like to stay very optimistic until the very end of things, 413 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: and I've been trying. 414 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 3: To do that within this case. 415 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: But and maybe also to One of the things I 416 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: was thinking about today as well, is like, as the 417 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: government raps their case, one of the things we got 418 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: to think about is we've really only heard from the government. 419 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: Even though Diddy's team has got up and cross examined 420 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: and all of that, we haven't seen them lay out 421 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: their case. When I tell y'all, they got to lay 422 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 2: out their case. The show they got to put on 423 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: gotta be better than Beyonce on the run of Renaissance. 424 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell y'all it is light's camera action 425 00:21:52,240 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: for them because the y'all listen, let me know how 426 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: y'all are feeling. I want to know if you guys 427 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: agree with Sonny. 428 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 3: I want to take it to the streets. Take it 429 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: to the tweets, right. 430 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: You call the tweets outside, we outside, we outside outside. 431 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: If you guys agree with Sonny that your number six. 432 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: This black juror being dismissed is a huge loss for 433 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: Diddy's team, but also a game changer because of the 434 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: fact that he can do the appeal. 435 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: Let me know. 436 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: If you feel like it's incremental, it's nothing to focus on. 437 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: Let me know, tweet me, instagram all of the things 438 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: I want to know, because as we go throughout this 439 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: next week, literally this week, because Diddy's team wrote a 440 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: letter and said they are going to request a mistrial 441 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: if that happens, So we're going to see that happen. 442 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: I don't believe that he'll be granted a mistrial whatsoever. 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: I do think that he'll be able to be heard 444 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: on appeal because of this matter, just again because of 445 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: like the because of checks and balances, right, because of 446 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: the logistics, because of the way things go. I think 447 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: he can be heard on appeal because of this. But 448 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't see a mistrial happening because of this. 449 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: But you know they gonna go for it. So let 450 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: me know what y'all think. 451 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: Y'all grew with Judge mathis is this worth Diddy's team 452 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: appealing and winning an appeal on something as small as this. 453 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Y'all gotta remember people like a lot of not comparing 454 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: it to completely separate. But Bill Cosby, Bill Cosby came 455 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: home on the technicality, not because he was proved not guilty. 456 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: He came home because somebody didn't cross their tee and 457 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: dot their I. 458 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: I'm Laura de Rosa and at the end of the day, 459 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: there is a. 460 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: Lot to talk about and y'all know I want to 461 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: hear from y'all. Today's episode is definitely one of the 462 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: ones where I want y'all to chime on in tweet 463 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: me at Laura rosa Instagram. You know y'all be posting 464 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: y'all insert stories lowriters. 465 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. 466 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: At Laura Rosa as well. At the end of the day, 467 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: there's always a lot to talk about it. Y'all could 468 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: be anywhere but anybody talking about it, but y'all choose to. 469 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: Be right here with me. 470 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: And I appreciate y'all for I will see you guys 471 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 2: in my next episode.