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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's another week of the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous podcast. Yes, this is the finale week, a huge

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Speaker 1: finale when we are all celebrating, so pumped to be

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Speaker 1: talking about. It's also a holiday week, so it's also

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Speaker 1: exciting that we're gonna get a few days rest. I

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Speaker 1: hope you all are this season. If you're not, thank

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Speaker 1: you for the work that you're putting in. Ashley, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, start talking and just I'm not gonna stop

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Speaker 1: talking because here's why. Yes, yesterday I lost my wallet. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know now, Like there's a few things in

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Speaker 1: life that people really hate losing phones, wallets, those type

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Speaker 1: of things like the small, like very material items that

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Speaker 1: we possessed that we get really addicted to. I lost

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Speaker 1: my wallet and I couldn't hardly function, like like I

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Speaker 1: was so stressed out knowing knowing that like it's nowhere

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Speaker 1: be found. Well, I found it in the corner of

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Speaker 1: a garage. Um, don't ask me how it got there.

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Speaker 1: It's been the multiple times I've lost it here in

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Speaker 1: the last week. And but I now have a wallet.

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Speaker 1: I am so happy because love is in the air.

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Speaker 1: Wallets are found. I'm gonna breathe now so that you

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Speaker 1: can talk. I'm just so excited. I know I could

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Speaker 1: tell how peppy you were today. I'm just I know

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Speaker 1: that relief that you get, and I'm peppy. For another reason.

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Speaker 1: I'm still on cloud nine because of that finale. Oh

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Speaker 1: my goodess, gracious you guys. I feel like I got

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Speaker 1: engaged last night. What was this Like? I afterward, I

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Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: just experienced like something like insane in my life. Like

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Speaker 1: I feel like I got a promotion, like my team

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and I was at it. It

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Speaker 1: was so weird. It was a finale that we haven't

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Speaker 1: felt and so long, and seriously, we can we can

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Speaker 1: go down the list, like I went down the list

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Speaker 1: this morning with access. Let me just really briefly, so

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Speaker 1: we uh, we had this one, which is absolutely magical,

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Speaker 1: and then claren Dale okay, but there was like we

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Speaker 1: had reservations about Clarendale right because we're like, hello, it's

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Speaker 1: been less than twelve days. Um, And then we go

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Speaker 1: back to Peters season and then he ends up with

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Speaker 1: like No. One. And then before that, there was Hannah

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Speaker 1: season and there was she didn't end up with Jed,

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Speaker 1: and then there was Colton season and he was with

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Speaker 1: Cassie but only dating Cassie because she left him on

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Speaker 1: the finale. And and then before that we had Becca

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Speaker 1: and that was like pretty normal. And but then before

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Speaker 1: that we had Ari and that was that was also

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Speaker 1: a switchero. And it's just like we got a bachelor

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Speaker 1: fairy tale happy ending last night, and my little bachelor

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Speaker 1: heart and like this is my little bachelor heart as

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Speaker 1: a fan is so full. It's a fan and a

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Speaker 1: friend and it's just like wow, wow, wow, Well, hey,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't like a happy ending. Well, before we start

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Speaker 1: talking happy endings, uh, let's bring on one of the

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Speaker 1: fan favorites this season from The Bachelorette. We have the

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Speaker 1: privilege to speak with one of Tatius suitors, Brendan. Brendon's

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Speaker 1: on the line. Now, let's bring them on. Well, hey, Brendan,

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Speaker 1: I mean we are so thrilled to have you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. You're such a fan favorite. I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's not a fan out there who had criticism of you,

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Speaker 1: Like You've just seem like the sweetest, most endearing guy,

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Speaker 1: so genuine I think we're all, we were all sad

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Speaker 1: to see you leave, but we all very much respected

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Speaker 1: the decision that you made to leave. So I guess

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Speaker 1: like my first question for you is when when did

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Speaker 1: you start thinking, Okay, I should probably get out of here,

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Speaker 1: because we all know it wasn't the Neil Lane wedding date,

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Speaker 1: wedding ring date. You were put on that on purpose?

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Speaker 1: For sure? For sure, Yeah, yeah that was That was

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Speaker 1: definitely a strategic move from the producers that I would imagine,

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Speaker 1: but um, yeah it was. It happened. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: whole experience happened so fast, and I only knew Tasha

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Speaker 1: four around a month and um, that first one on

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Speaker 1: one date, I left there, you know, feeling like, okay,

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Speaker 1: And then, um, you know, but there was the next

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Speaker 1: hometown date. Well, I was super, super hopeful that her

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Speaker 1: more and having communication with my family and then reassuring

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Speaker 1: hopeful that that moment would make my feelings grow to

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Speaker 1: and and and the whole time, I was definitely fighting

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Speaker 1: myself and trying to not completely self sabotage situation, not

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Speaker 1: completely trying to just not put myself out there to

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Speaker 1: protect myself. But um yeah, unfortunately, as you saw, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to do it well. You know, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that's super interesting is, UH, during this show,

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Speaker 1: the lead, you don't get a lot of time alone.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of people around all the time. So

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Speaker 1: can you give us UH behind the scenes, look at

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Speaker 1: how you started the process this. This couldn't have been easy.

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Speaker 1: There had to be a lot of emotion behind kind

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Speaker 1: of feeling these things and trying to figure out what

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Speaker 1: the right decision was. How did you, during the show

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Speaker 1: and the climate of the show come to a place

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Speaker 1: where you're confident that you're making the right decision. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So as far as as time goes, I was honestly

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Speaker 1: surprised with how little time I did have with Tasia

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Speaker 1: then if you were to go further along, um, you

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Speaker 1: know you had more time, but um, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: it was definitely challenging, um knowing that you know, you

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Speaker 1: have to cultivate these these feelings, uh and have them,

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Speaker 1: um you know, bring them to a certain level to

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Speaker 1: honestly surprised that, you know, that I didn't have more

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Speaker 1: about Tasha, you know, Tassia, what's your and And it

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Speaker 1: the main question there was that when when did you

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Speaker 1: just define time to process these feelings when you started

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Speaker 1: doubt that you were ready? What did that look like

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Speaker 1: that we didn't get to see. Yeah, um, definitely a

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Speaker 1: it was tough coming to terms with that, you know,

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Speaker 1: So Brendan, on our previous podcast on Monday, we discussed

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Speaker 1: this SoundBite that was significant. Uh, Tasia said something along

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Speaker 1: the lines of I can't directly quote, but I thought

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Speaker 1: Brendan was the one, are going to be the one?

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Speaker 1: Did you think that there was a chance she would

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Speaker 1: be the one. Earlier on like, was that like jarring

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Speaker 1: a bachelorette, and she can't be telling everyone, um, you

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Speaker 1: or you know, in my hometown. She had her interviews

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Speaker 1: and sound bites of her saying I could walk away

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Speaker 1: pretended eventually felt about me and how she described us,

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Speaker 1: and knowing that it didn't work out, it definitely makes

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Speaker 1: It's something to celebrate, it's really it was a really

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Speaker 1: you're still fresh into this thing. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, I'm doing okay, I'm um. Watching how

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Speaker 1: it ended, ah, was was very refreshing for me, and

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Speaker 1: and it kind of changed my perspective on the whole thing. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: leaving the show the way I did, you know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't leave there feeling great about it whatsoever. Um, certain

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Speaker 1: part of me feels like it was a missed opportunity,

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Speaker 1: something that could have completely changed the trajectory in my

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Speaker 1: what happened was meant to happen, and and if I

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Speaker 1: and all that's inspire me. But honestly, when I was

428
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: packing for the show going to Palm Springs, I knew

429
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: it was gonna be hot. Of course, I didn't know

430
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a hundred and twenty all the time.

431
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 1: But I threw in like four or five turtlenecks, like,

432
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to wear these. Um from what I

433
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: underst dan, it's like suit, tie button up, all that

434
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: good stuff. I'm not going to wear these. And then

435
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: a couple, as you saw, like the first few Rose ceremonies,

436
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: I had a regular tie on and everything, and then

437
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: I asked one of the producers like, can I wear

438
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: a turtlenecks? Like yeah, I don't care. And then from

439
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: that point on, I was like, I mean, I feel

440
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: way more comfortable. Uh, you know, I feel like I'm

441
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: definitely a little more stylish and more myself in the turtlenext.

442
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna let it rock, love it. Okay,

443
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: I know you have to go, but we I really

444
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: want to end asking you this question because I think

445
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: it says so much about somebody. I always say, if

446
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: you were stranded on a mountain, your car broke down,

447
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: who would be the guy from your season to drop everything,

448
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: drive out there and help you? Who would do it?

449
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: Who would help me? Not who I'd want to be there,

450
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: who would definitely be like the guy always there to

451
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: rescue you, okay, without a doubt. And I think this

452
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: is um, this is probably falled. This person falls under

453
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: both categories. Is who who would without a doubt drop

454
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: everything and come rescue me? And who I would choose

455
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: is definitely Joe Uh you know, yeah, he's uh he

456
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: one of my closest friends from the show UM and

457
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: and we've we've hung out since and and he's like

458
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: one of the sweetest, most selfless people I've ever met

459
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: in my life. And and we had like it was

460
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: funny every single every single night we have like thirty

461
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 1: seconds of like time that we weren't Mike. And every

462
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: night we like walk into our rooms, we talked for

463
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: like thirty seconds before producer would break it up. But

464
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: we like recap the day, talk about what are feelings

465
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: of what's going on and everything, and we like built

466
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: the relationship, um from that, we're in the same limo

467
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: together and uh and his last night, he kind of

468
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: had an idea he was leaving, or at least he uh,

469
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: he wrote this letter for me that he was like,

470
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you when I leave,

471
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 1: and and he um, he stayed for a couple of

472
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: weeks longer and the last night gave me this letter

473
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: that I still obviously still have to this day of

474
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: just him encouraging me, telling me you know how much

475
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: he valued and enjoyed our time together and that we're

476
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna be friends for a long time. So uh yeah,

477
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: it was sweet and he's a sweetheart. So definitely. Do

478
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: you know how hard the girls are swooning right now?

479
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: You and Joe together the sweet relationship? Wow wow wow.

480
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: All right, well we actually have him on later in

481
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: this episode, so thanks for that nice transition there. Tell

482
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: him my love him, right, Hey, Brenain really appreciate you.

483
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. I have a good holiday season,

484
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: and uh, rest up, that's been burning in you all.

485
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming. Yeah, and check your d M. Definitely

486
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: definitely I'll see you in war work. Okay, it sounds

487
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: good by Obviously we just had Brendan on the podcast

488
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: Agree interview. Uh, he wasn't around for the finale, but

489
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: we were. We were watching it. We were all all

490
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: watching it. This is uh, this is a finale to

491
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: speak about Ashley. You open up this podcast incredibly giddy,

492
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna throw it over to you. You

493
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: take this thing where you want to take it. Okay, Well,

494
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: I guess do we go to do? We go to

495
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: the top where she brings Ben in, and she says like, Okay,

496
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: just meet me at the Rose ceremony. Sure, you know,

497
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: here's what we really want to get to. We really

498
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: want to get to the end. So until we get there,

499
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: let's just break down what happens this episode, your thoughts,

500
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: your feelings, and then then you can get giddy again. Okay, okay,

501
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: sounds good. So yeah, Um, when she said meet me

502
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: at the Rose Ceremony, I just knew she was going

503
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: to let Ben back in. I thought was like super

504
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: obvious because I just didn't feel it with her and

505
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: Ivan and poor Ivan had the crappy Winnebago ice bath

506
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: date and it's just like you weren't vibing it. So

507
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, she's gonna put Ben in because

508
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: that way she could just make sure she like figures

509
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: out her feelings, has no regrets. At the end of

510
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: this she has no what ifs. You know how many

511
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: times have I said in this podcast, like she's going

512
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: to eliminate the what ifs that way when she's engaged

513
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: in the end, she knows that like she explored every

514
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: relationship to the maximount that she felt necessary. Um So

515
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: then the rose ceremony obviously be ivan is eliminated. It's

516
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: very sweet of her for eliminating these guys like in

517
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: one on one situations and not like at roast ceremonies.

518
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: This episode, um she brings up the fact that they

519
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: didn't share. They didn't see eye to eye on religion,

520
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: And I understand that religion is a is a big

521
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: dealtation and she probably does want her significant other to

522
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: either like completely accept and respect her religion, if not completely,

523
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: just agree with her beliefs. It be in line with

524
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: her beliefs. But I do think that was been of

525
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: a cop out, maybe like a nice way of saying, like, hey,

526
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: we didn't align on this, so like I don't think

527
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: we have any future, Like I get it. That's definitely

528
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: like on her checklist of things that they have to

529
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: match up on. But like, I just think that it

530
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: was a nice way of sending him home, don't you. Well,

531
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: that's where I want to ask the question. I was

532
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: watching it with my future mother in law and and

533
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: we we never remember any conversations about faith or belief

534
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: between the two of them, and maybe I've missed that. Well,

535
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: it was obvious to me that it was in the

536
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: Fantasy Suite, but that is me watching it as somebody

537
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: who's been part of the show. Like I know, but

538
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: that definitely went down during the Fantasy Suite. But then

539
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: we have no background, and so that's why it doesn't

540
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: feel it doesn't feel so significant. Maybe, um, as we

541
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: watch it and we see the breakup, because we don't

542
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: know where this conversation went. We don't know if there

543
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: is a complete disagreement on faith and belief in worldview.

544
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: We don't know if they align at some level, but

545
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: there's some critical things that they just disagree on. Like

546
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: I have no clue what they were talking about there.

547
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: I can make assumptions. I can say, you know, they disagree,

548
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: but I don't know any context to this, And that's

549
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: why that breakup to me fell short. We've we've fallen

550
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: in love with Ivan and fell in love with his family. Um,

551
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: we obviously know that Tasia and him have a connection

552
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: and that something was going well there, but this breakup

553
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: just felt empty to me as a viewer, didn't to them.

554
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: And that's really who matters, because I just have no

555
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: clue what they were talking about. I know they kept

556
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: throwing the word religion around there. I don't know what

557
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: that means. I don't know what they mean by that. Well,

558
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: we can assume it happened the fantasy suite and it

559
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: was significant enough for her to use it as the

560
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: reason for them to break up, and he seemed to understand,

561
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: like that's the thing that I also want a hint

562
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: to Like, yes, it could feel like a cop out,

563
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: but I don't think it was, because there was obviously

564
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: something that happened between them where he sat there and says,

565
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: I know, like I get it and I understand. Okay,

566
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: so I guess what I mean cop out. I just

567
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 1: mean like, it's not he would have been eliminated in

568
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 1: my opinion, had it been for the religion conversation or not. Okay,

569
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: fair enough, but that just fell short. That's that's my take. Okay.

570
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: So then we meet the family and Ben bends up first.

571
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: The family loves Ben. After this, I was like, oh crap,

572
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: because you know, I've been like so team Zack and

573
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: all this, I'm like, oh crap, the family is knocking

574
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: like Zack and this is why she's going to have

575
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: that mental breakdown before before the proposal, you know, like

576
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: while she's in the dress. We like saw that tease

577
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: of her like just breaking down, and then we saw

578
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: that stern conversation that her dad had with her and

579
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: am I wrong? And the fact that I feel like

580
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: that clip of the dad sternly talking to her was

581
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: never aired in the episode. Not wasn't he was. They

582
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: showed him saying it, but he was kind of just

583
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: referencing a care for his girl by saying, hey, I

584
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: just want you to be smart here, kind of don't

585
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: make the wrong decision. I know this matters to you.

586
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: But it was never never at all. Yeah, okay, so

587
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: that was well that comes later and it was a

588
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: big tease for us, you know, like that seemed like

589
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a dramatic moment. Wasn't a dramatic

590
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: moment at all. If anything, it felt like filler content.

591
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: It felt like we were supposed to get nervous for it,

592
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: but there was really nothing nerve racking about it anyway.

593
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, But but Ben's date went so well that

594
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: the dad liked I keep saying the dad. It's like

595
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: the dad was obviously just like such a patriarch of

596
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: the family, and and Tastia just has a very sweet

597
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: father daughter relationship with him. I felt like there was

598
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: so much weight on her dad's opinion of the guys,

599
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: but it seemed like he liked both guys. I would

600
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: say that maybe Zach had more of a chemistry with

601
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: the family, not like far and beyond. I think we

602
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: didn't get to see like a whole ton because it

603
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: may have like just been if we saw Zack super

604
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: jiving with the family, then it would have just been

605
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: so obvious where it was headed, and they just needed

606
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: to keep a little bit of sense of mystery at

607
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: that point. Is there anything that you felt that was

608
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: really worth mentioning about either of the family meetings? No,

609
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the one thing worth mentioning is

610
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: it was a It was a good depiction of who

611
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: her like, who her mom and dad are right and

612
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: the in the siblings like it. It went well. He

613
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: the dad was not judgmental, um, but he had a

614
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: really good grasp of kind of who these two dudes

615
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: are as humans. I did, though, think the same thing

616
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: you did. I think that when he left Ben, I

617
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he really likes Bean, but her dad

618
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: is a smart dude, and I think he saw that, like, hey,

619
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: it's a good guy. But Zack. When Zach speaks to well,

620
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: he's a man, and he he speaks in a way

621
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: like I know he is my daughter, and he asked

622
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: that he speaks about Tastia. He doesn't just speak about

623
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: himself like that. I think the dad saw there is

624
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: a deeper relationship there. Yes, I agree. Yeah, the way

625
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: you could just tell that he was the more mature

626
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: one of the two of them. Yeah, um. And then

627
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: I just love the way that he was talking about

628
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: Tassia's relationship with her dad and how important that he

629
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: that was for him to like see, um, okay, so

630
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: then yeah, Tatia's dad that weird pow wow brunch thing

631
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: in the morning when we were like, okay, wow, way

632
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: to scare us for no reason. Then we go to

633
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Zack and Tatia's one on one, the last date of

634
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: the season, and it was such a magical one. It

635
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: was so magical I had to rewind it. I wanted

636
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: to watch them dance again. The way that he looked

637
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: at her, It's that is what dreams are made of. Yep,

638
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: it was so good. It was so good. And you know,

639
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: we're just like over here screaming, being like if he

640
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: she doesn't pick zact like everything in this world is

641
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: upside down. I almost see you getting emotionals. This is

642
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: this like your fairy tale movie that you and Jared

643
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: like to like reenact now, but this is like I

644
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: felt like I was watching a rom com. Yeah, so

645
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: in a way, I understand what you're trying to say. Yes,

646
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: I felt like over the past couple of episodes watching

647
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: the two of them, my heart fluttered as if I

648
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: was watching a romantic movie. It just felt so good. Okay,

649
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: so the dance obviously super magical, and I feel like

650
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: the word magical is like cliche, but it just was magical.

651
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: And then we go into the date night and it

652
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: was just more of that amazing chemistry. Just feel the

653
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: vibes through the TV, and Zack says he'll do whatever

654
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: to hold onto the lapse and the smiles that they have,

655
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: and like he's he's never going to let her go.

656
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: And he says that the fact that he's been nine

657
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: years sober in that anniversary was that night, allows him

658
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: not to run away. He has to face life as

659
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: it comes his way. He says, he understands loyalty and commitment,

660
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: and he knows why he loves her, and you know

661
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: she loves that he's somebody that she can just rely on.

662
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: You just feel so much security in this relationship. There

663
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: there's that. Yeah, he said some things during this episode

664
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: that again kind of like went beyond the show, and

665
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: that statement right there is one that like just really

666
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: took me back in the back of my seat, and

667
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: all of us in the room that we're watching look

668
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: at each other and said, that's that's good. Not just

669
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: good because it's good TV. You know, he's not just

670
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: saying the right thing. What he says is this, and

671
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: I think all of the take a second and learn

672
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: from Zack on this. He says, Hey, when you go

673
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: through tough stuff, what I've learned is you gotta sit

674
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: through it. You gotta work through it. You can't run

675
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: away from it. You can't act like it disappears. It

676
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: doesn't come easy. It doesn't mean things are gonna be

677
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: easier any faster. But you start to learn, and you

678
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: grind and you work, and that's where life gets raw

679
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: and real. Now though there's one word that we that

680
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: you can summarize that statement, Zack has matured to a

681
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: place where he is starting to take accountability for his actions,

682
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: his mistakes, also his successes. He has accountability. He's not

683
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: always a victim. He doesn't blame everybody else around him,

684
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't come up with excuses. No, he is taking accountability.

685
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: And when you get to that level, you know you

686
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: can't you can't enjoy anything you don't own, and you

687
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: also can't learn from anything that you dismiss. And he isn't.

688
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: He's doing both those things. And that's when I said

689
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: that this dude I was questionable at times about Zach.

690
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: That's when it went to me and said, no, that

691
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 1: dude's ready, Like this is good, this is that's deep

692
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: and and I was learning from I was sitting there thinking, Hey,

693
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: what if I made excused about my life recently? What

694
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: if I tried to dismiss and push off to the

695
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: side that I don't want to take accountability for like

696
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: I was asking myself those questions from his statement and

697
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: I and that's good. Yeah, he knows himself inside and

698
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: out so deeply and he's not afraid to articulate it.

699
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: I just love it. I love it. So after this date,

700
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: of course, such a such a transformative sort of date,

701
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: just like you know, she knows exactly what she's doing.

702
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: She does not want to take Bet on the date.

703
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: She knows her heart is made up. So she goes

704
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: and she she breaks up with Ben. A poor guy.

705
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: It's like, so I left, I came back, I met

706
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: your family, and now I'm just gonna leave again. But

707
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: he was very understanding of it. He really handled it

708
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: the best anybody could. Mm hmm, I agree, I mean

709
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: he did it was it was like sad because it's

710
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of like he's just getting like I don't know,

711
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: then kicked around and kicked her out a little bit. Um.

712
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: Well done for Tasia. But at this point in the episode,

713
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: like I'm I don't think anybody's shocked that Ben's going home.

714
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: We're all like, if this ends up with Ben, then

715
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: this whole finale was worthless because the whole thing has

716
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: been leaning up to a beautiful ending for zack plantation. Yeah,

717
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: and it was so Zach picks the kneel lane ring. Uh. He's,

718
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, obviously nervous because he doesn't know what's going

719
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: to happen. Um that whole little like lead up him

720
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: in the car and her out there. She doesn't have

721
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: this cry fest that we all thought she was. But

722
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: what was so wonderful was seeing her chat with Chris

723
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: Harrison in which she basically says, knowing Zach and how

724
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: I feel towards Zack, it makes me feel like I've

725
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: never been really truly in love before until him. That

726
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: was awesome And we knew where that was. You know,

727
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: we knew it was going to lead to engagement if

728
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: that's how she felt. And you know, Zach just did

729
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: did the damn thing. You know, said that he loves

730
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: her because she's a fighter, a strong, independent woman who

731
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: believes in him and his dorc and drives him wild.

732
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: Nothing has ever felt so right in his entire life.

733
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: He talks about the first date they had by the

734
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Fountain when they said that everything happens for a reason,

735
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: and he knows that that reason it's her. He said

736
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: that he thought a lot about about what could go wrong,

737
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: but he's going into this without fear. And then of

738
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: course says, like the most wonderful things back that like,

739
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, she loves him so much that she never

740
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: thought that she was going to get married again because

741
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: she hit rock bottom after her last after her divorce. Um,

742
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: and she loves him, but it's more than that. And

743
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: then she stops and gives him a heart attack and uh,

744
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: then says, but this is beyond love, this is wild

745
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: love or something like that, and then the relief on

746
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: his face huh, so so good. He says he's going

747
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: to choose her forever, that he can't imagine a moment

748
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: without her in his life. Um. His Oh, and when

749
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: he stopped, when he brought up his family and he

750
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: had to close his eyes and like gather himself, and

751
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 1: he had to whisper about how his family hadn't seen

752
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: him that happy before, and that was the moment that

753
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: he knew she was the one. That was just that

754
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: was the moment. It just doesn't get better on TV

755
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: than that moment. Then he drops to one knee says,

756
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: marry me, and they danced, you know the then then

757
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: then then they get the cab and the cardboard cab,

758
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: and now I can't talk anymore because it's just so cute.

759
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: And yes, I'm going to rewatch it again today because

760
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: it was a magical, magical Um Bachelor finale, Ben, do

761
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: you have anything to add? Sorry, I just kind of

762
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: went on a monologue there. It's all good. Now, it's

763
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: beautiful and it's something to celebrate. We're so happy for

764
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Asian Zach. Uh. We'll hopefully have one of them, if

765
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: not both of them on very soon to the podcast.

766
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: Give them a little time to breathe here, to celebrate

767
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: themselves and to start to become public. But just what

768
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: what a finale, one that, like you said, we've been

769
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: waiting for. Um, the show's entertaining. Not every year goes well,

770
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: not every year has their happy ending, but this is

771
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: one that definitely, I think we can all sit here

772
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: and say this was good, This was entertaining, It was enjoyable,

773
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: but it was real. And so we're wishing Tasia and

774
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: Zach the absolute best as they move forward with their

775
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: love story now publicly, and we're excited to watch it

776
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: along the way. Um, what a season it was, Uh,

777
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, as I said, A plus seasons. It's just

778
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: a really great, a great time for us all. Well, hey,

779
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: actually let's take a little breather. You collect yourselves, You

780
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: collect yourself, take a drink of water. I know you're

781
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: you're all happy over there. When we come back and

782
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: actually have Joe Park on um to discuss everything is

783
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: going on in his life. Know he just got the

784
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: vaccine and also just how full his d M s are. Well, hey,

785
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: we'll be back with almost Famous podcast. Okay, guys, we

786
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: have fan favorite Joe Park on the line. We all

787
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: love Joe. He was an undercover sweetness of this season,

788
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: a single thirty six year old doctor who looks like

789
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: that and has that kind of soul. We're very we're

790
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: very confused as to why he's single. Hey Joe, why

791
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: are you single? Hey, Ashley, that's what you and my

792
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: mom I should talk because she's been asking me that

793
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: for a few years now. I don't have a great

794
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: answer for you. Um, I know it's not every girl updated,

795
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: that's that's for sure. So it's probably something to do

796
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: with me, and there's something but I'm trying to figure

797
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: that also out also, But obviously you know, still out

798
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: there trying to trying to make it happen. You know, well,

799
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: since the show, did you have you just been getting

800
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: your inbox on Instagram and it totally full, like any

801
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: way a woman can contact you. Are you just getting overloaded? Um? Um,

802
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: So that's a really good question. I don't. Actually, I

803
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: don't use social media very often. And I have been

804
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: looking at the through the d M s for old

805
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 1: high school friends and college friends and med school friends

806
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: who actually have reached out. And that's been one of

807
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: the coolest parts of the whole experience, just to reconnect

808
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: with people who I care so much about, who just

809
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, over time you lose touch with um. But

810
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: interspersed between those messages are a lot of messages from women,

811
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: and I have no idea how to do it. I

812
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: don't respond to any of them, just because I don't

813
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: know what do I do with that. It just seems

814
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: very it's very hard. Ben knows what to do with it.

815
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: You just say hello to that. Now I know why

816
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: you're single, and I'm glad you're single. I'm very excited

817
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: because you're single, so that we could watch you on

818
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: our television screens for the weeks that we did. Um,

819
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 1: and that makes me happy. America falls in love with you, Joe.

820
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Now my advice to you, uh is to consider these

821
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: d m s. That's how I found my fiance. Now

822
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: she didn't DM me, I d M her. Um. But

823
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: the d ms work, buddy, Uh, they work well. So Hey,

824
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: I want to start with this. We obviously are celebrating

825
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: Taia season. UM. And this is a season that I

826
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: would say most really for the first time that we've

827
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: done this podcast, most people are very positive on Tasia

828
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: uh and uh and kind of how the whole season

829
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: played out. But if you sat here tonight, uh. And

830
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: obviously now the finale is over, we all know what happened. Um.

831
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: But before the finale, did you have any clue how

832
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: this was gonna end? No? I did, I didn't. Um.

833
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: It was such an odd turn, even starting from the

834
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: very beginning. I just want to say how weird it

835
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: is to see because I've spent a lot of time

836
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: with all those guys, and just from the very beginning

837
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: you talked about guys to start from the bottom, and

838
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: now they're there. I mean, these were like forgot forgotten

839
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: guys pretty much. You know, the final four, in the

840
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: final three and the final two, these guys are afterthoughts

841
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: in the clear portion and now they're on top. And

842
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: it's so cool to see that happen to such great guys.

843
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: And I definitely didn't see how I didn't see that

844
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: one happening for sure. I mean it was definitely, um,

845
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: we're great guys, but I just thought the connection was

846
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: might have been stronger with with Ivan. Um, you know,

847
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: from my vantage point. But you know, the heart wants

848
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: what the heart wants, and you know, none of us

849
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: know the relationship fully just because we get these snippets,

850
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: you know, So it's well, you know, I just want

851
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: to add this before you get into you, Joe, and

852
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: there's a lot to dig in you personally. But it's interesting. Actually,

853
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had this happened to you

854
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: during your season of the Bachelor, But you know I

855
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: was in the final three, right, yeah, third, I was

856
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: let go three, and I had no clue how it

857
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: ended until I watched the finale. Like everybody kept in

858
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: a secret, I was very like I was watching the

859
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: finale kind of like you were shocked at the end,

860
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: surprised at the end. Uh. It's kind of interesting how

861
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: that happens. You can be on the show for so

862
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: long know these guys and then not know what what

863
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: what ends up with it all? Yeah, there's a there's

864
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: a there's a there's a limit, there's like to a

865
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: certain number of maybe the final four or three. You

866
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: kind of know how people go. But after that there's

867
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: a shroud of mystery that's covered. Yeah, Jared didn't think

868
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: that Caitlin ended up with anyone, which added to the

869
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: reason that he wasn't so much over her when he

870
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: joined Bachelor in Paradise and the cast, like the cast

871
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: of girls who were more in the loop with Caitlin

872
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: than the cast of guys was we Um had to

873
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: tell what we told him, and he was like, yeah,

874
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: I heard of Caitlin ends up with no one, and

875
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: we're like, like Jared Sean. So it was like a

876
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: shock to him. Um, but hey, bygones, right, you know

877
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: we're past that, Jared and Jared, Yes, I do remember that. No,

878
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: but okay, let's get into you. Joe. So, my dad's

879
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: an antitusiologists. You know that I felt like a certain

880
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: kinship with you because of that. Um, what happened when

881
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: when you told your group, which which hospital do you

882
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: work at? New York? I'm in my mind used down

883
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Okay, So when you told the group, I'm

884
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: gonna need some time off, a chunk of time because

885
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the bachelorette, how did the docs respond?

886
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: So the guy I reported directly is this elderly Indian man,

887
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: and he's like the bachel what you know. He's like, like,

888
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: what does that mean? You need time off for the bachelor?

889
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: And I tried to explain to him and he's like,

890
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: it was such an odd conversation. I had to tell him. Yeah,

891
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: so there's like thirties, so my guys, who's who are

892
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: there for one girl? And you go and everyone dates

893
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: at the same time, and he was like, has this

894
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: quizzical look. And eventually I was just like, it's a

895
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: TV show and they want me to be part of

896
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: this TV show and it's like a crazy once in

897
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: a lifetime about kind of opportunity. And that's kind of

898
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: what got through to him. And it was an odd

899
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: time where elected surgeries were. HM was right past the

900
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: height of COVID and um, yeah, obviously there there weren't. Yeah,

901
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: there was. There wasn't that much work, and the COVID

902
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: case actually gotten down significantly. From a height of around

903
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: like you know, three thousand cases down to like six

904
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: cases in July. So it's scutally the perfect time for

905
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: me to um to go. There was enough works. Were

906
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: you not out of the original cast with Claire that

907
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: was set to record in March? Yeah, that's that's correct.

908
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I'm one of the Yeah, the new guys.

909
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: How did that play out? Like? Did that work? Were

910
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: you in casting that they had you gone to a

911
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: casting call or did they reach out to you randomly?

912
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: How did it happen? So my my mom actually works

913
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: for ABC, so she just asked on the executives to

914
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: now I'm just kidding out, somebody from the show, somebody

915
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 1: from the show reach out to me um to social media,

916
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: and I didn't respond for a few days. I had

917
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: no idea what it was about. Um. It was sometime

918
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: early spring, and I eventually reached out and they said, hey,

919
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: we just like to chat um over the phone. And

920
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: then that led to a zoom call and another room

921
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: call and another room call and everything happened literally from

922
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: like from where I'm sitting right now, essentially, so I'm

923
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: gonta do anything. There's no like, there's no travel to

924
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: l A and then come back here. It was really

925
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: really easy to do it, and I just kept rolling

926
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: with it, and then eventually they're like, hey, like you

927
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: can fly out on this day. And then I was like,

928
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. See you need to answer

929
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 1: those d m s. See what happens in me listen.

930
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: Then then you might be on something. You really might

931
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: be honest something here. So now, when you go into

932
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: the pre op area and you meet your patients for

933
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: the first time, how many of them have recognized you

934
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: and gotten kind of g I've I've been asked that before,

935
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: but thinking about patients who need surgery, most of them

936
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: are like you know, generally over fifty and you know,

937
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: where I work, a lot of the population is like

938
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: either Russian or Chinese or like Orthodox Jewish, so um,

939
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: not many, to be honest with you. And it's kind

940
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: of cool that way because they could, like, you know,

941
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm judged on the merit of my professionalism and my

942
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: character who as they know me and not the guy

943
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: who played Trip Dodgeball and TV. So I'm okay with that,

944
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: But how many how many doctors and nurses are geeking

945
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: out about your appearance on the show that's yeah, that's

946
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: probably better question. I think a good amount um. And

947
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: it's so weird because it's like the same people have

948
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: walked the same halls with who I've you know, working

949
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: side by side with um. All of a sudden, there's

950
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: like a lot of times like I see people look

951
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: looking at me, and then sometimes like at end of

952
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: a shift, very respectfully, somebody like someone will just ask, hey,

953
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: could you take a selfie? And I'm like like, like,

954
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: can we just take a picture with you? I'm like, like,

955
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: what do you think? Picturely? Whatever you want, I'll say it.

956
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: Like it's just a like you guys have been through

957
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: this now now you guys are like ingrained. You guys

958
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: are like you know actually actually when you were you

959
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: were on set. One of the piacer has told me,

960
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: you don't know who Ashley is, Like she's I will

961
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: remember these words forever. He knows who he is, he said, verbatim,

962
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: She's Bachelor Royalty. That's where come from. I mean, I

963
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: don't hate it. He knows who he is too, so anyway,

964
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: but it is weird to me. It's just like just

965
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: like walking around and like just people, you know, it's

966
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: just like you wanta take. Like I always tell people,

967
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: it's weirder for me that you're asking me than this,

968
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: for you to ask me to take a picture. I'm

969
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: like you, whatever you want, I don't care. Yeah, I

970
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,959
Speaker 1: don't take a picture. It's just it's wildly Yeah. Well,

971
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: it's a level of respect you get for going on

972
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: the reality television show. It's always the funniest thing is

973
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: you go on a reality telem so and now people

974
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: really love you more than they did before. Joe, you

975
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: were beloved by vaccination, there's no question about it. You

976
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: come off of this whole experience now, right, and you

977
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: had a good experience. I'm imagining it's been really good

978
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: for you overall. There's no big negatives, there's no rumors

979
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: swirling or or hate really being thrown at you. If

980
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: if you dug deep within yourself, how does it feel

981
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: to be sitting in the place that you're sitting now,

982
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,359
Speaker 1: being having these pictures taken of you at work and

983
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 1: knowing the positive impact you've had on people's lives. Has

984
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: it affected you at all as a human? Oh? Man, Um,

985
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: I will say, I'm the fact, like, I want to

986
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: go back to your point, to the fact that again,

987
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: not being part of social media and not honestly following

988
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: any celebrities on social media. I still and I'm such

989
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: a so cool to get to talk about this because

990
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: something that's been on my mind. I don't understandstand exactly

991
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: this culture, this this like why like someone posted recently,

992
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: I know what I names with, somebody posted recently from

993
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: the show they were making checks Mix, and I'm like,

994
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: I kept thinking, why do you think people want to

995
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: you the media? You're making checks mix? Why do you

996
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: actually millions end? Whatever? And what am I missing about

997
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: this whole world? That that's both those things are true,

998
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: And so I don't quite understand. But I will say this,

999
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't know how people feel.

1000
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I do know from comments and such, and

1001
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate your your really kind words. But I do

1002
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: think what i've what I've the conclusion I've come to

1003
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: is like it or not for whatever reason that I

1004
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: don't understand. I do have a platform, you know, now,

1005
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: I do have a certain amount of people who will

1006
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: view things I've post. And I recently posted a video

1007
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: about um just explaining the vaccine and how it came

1008
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 1: to be, and then I posted something I posted another

1009
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: video series of Instagram stories about me getting the vaccine,

1010
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: and again, these are the things that I realized, like

1011
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: like it or not, Like there is some good, some

1012
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: real good that come out of, you know, going on

1013
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: this semi silly reality TV show. And I think that's

1014
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: that's changed my whole perspective on everything. Isn't that cool?

1015
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: Do you after? So we see Dr Chris Strandberg. He

1016
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: was a dentist from Ben season. He is on the

1017
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: commercials for water Pick. He's like the official spokesperson. He

1018
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: goes on The Doctors all the time and talk about dentistry.

1019
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: Dr Travis Stork, one of the hosts of the Doctors,

1020
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: was a bachelor. Uh do you see yourself? Um kind

1021
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: of being another TV doctor? Uh making appearances on Dr

1022
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: Rozz and stuff because of because of you youroriety. Now,

1023
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: I will say this, I take and I don't want

1024
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: to disparage because you know Dr Ozz was like a

1025
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: card class certain he was like he's a real real doctor.

1026
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what Dr Stork does, but I take, like,

1027
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: I think medicine really really really seriously, and it is

1028
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: for me, like it's such a calling and I would

1029
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: never want to be put in a position where I

1030
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: would have to endorse this anti aging hair growing like

1031
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: limb lengthen and gummy. That's you know, is all the rage.

1032
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: Like I would never want to have to like talk

1033
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: about that with any type of real UM. I don't

1034
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: want to give any credence at all. And so I'm

1035
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: not sure if that's for me. I think I would,

1036
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm not. I think I would just make a couple

1037
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: of videos about things that I'm interested in. I think public,

1038
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: the public maybe shouldn't health related um just so they're aware,

1039
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: because I just think so much. Vaccine is a great example.

1040
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: So much of what people fear is the unknown. You know.

1041
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: It's like the same reason why people feel the groot,

1042
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: feel the dark, or like the deep dark ocean. It's

1043
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: like if you knew there was nothing there, you wouldn't

1044
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: be afraid. And so I think, like with the vaccine,

1045
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: it's as long as people have more knowledge, they're less fearful,

1046
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: and then maybe it's more okay to taking it. So yeah,

1047
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: I love that about it. It's a it's a good

1048
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: segue into this. So we have just a few more

1049
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: minutes left with you. We do want to talk about

1050
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: the vaccine. This is a platform that people listen to.

1051
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: You have received the vaccine, now, um, what is your experience?

1052
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: How would you tell listeners out there as the vaccine

1053
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: kind of starts to go through the phase one phase

1054
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: to phase three and it starts to reach us. All Um,

1055
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: So I've made a quick video about it, and I

1056
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: think I could definitely cover more in that seven minute

1057
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: video that I than I could come here, But I

1058
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: will say, um, they're what there it is study, the

1059
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: studies have done that have been done. I've shown it

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00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: is safe. There's a large study. Um. It has now

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Speaker 1: been approved in the you know promogency use in the UK,

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00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the US, brain Canada and thus far even still in

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00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: this larger population people who have gotten it, it's still

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00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: hasn't shown to be that that many ill effects. There

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: are two cases in the UK, but actually we're not

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00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: sure if that was from the medication or from the

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: late text component within the the packaging. So I'm gonna

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00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: say it's safe, but again, do the research, Um, talk

1069
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: to your doctor about it if you have any specific

1070
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: medical conditioning you're worried about. But um, but again, thus far, um,

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Speaker 1: I have had no ill effects from an a ciphromo

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Speaker 1: store on uh slightly store on the next day and them,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep posting, maybe so often, just to show people, Hey,

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: like you know, I trust it. I've been fine so far,

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01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: and if I'm not, I'll let you know. To so far,

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01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: I've been good. Yeah, We'll make sure you go chest

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: expect Joe's Instagram. I'm assuming it's on Instagram for those

1078
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: videos and the updates, and thanks for sharing with us,

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: and we we we couldn't let you go without asking

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01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: the obvious. If you are still single, and I know

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: you hope not to be, but in a few months

1082
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: if you are, would you be down to do Bachelor

1083
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: in Paradise? Oh? Man, people love asking this question. Um,

1084
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it to be honest with you.

1085
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: I'd probably have to watch an episode or two to

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01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: see what it's all about, so I couldn't really tell you.

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01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a day by day maybe interesting

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01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: d m s. Thank you, Ben, and uh see see

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: where what happens from there. Um, But I wouldn't be

1090
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: a completely opposed to it. It's um, it was an

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01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: amazing experience and again there is you know, not going

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01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: too much detail but like kind of what I said before,

1093
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: there is a potential for like real good to come

1094
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: out of reality television, and I don't think you can

1095
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: take that for granted. So I think you'd be a

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01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: very popular date choice down in Salulita. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here with us, Joe,

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01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: Dr Joe, Yeah, Dr je Man, thank you, and we

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01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: hope to see you Bachelor Paradise. I mean, if you

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01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: don't go, I don't know what we're gonna talk about.

1101
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: You have to go, so we have content for this podcast. Um, Ashley,

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01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: it was great seeing you again. It was doing nice

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01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: to meeting you down in Palm Springs. So good seeing

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01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: you then and so good meeting you. I was like,

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01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: watch out for this guy. You guys, you guys were

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01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: a good group of guys collectively. We're really we're really

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01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: happy with you. Yeah. I feel lucky that it was

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01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: great for you guys too, because I've got a lot

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01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: of great friends from it, so I feel the same way. Well, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks Joe, appreciate you. Man. Fine, it's Bachelor Headlines Time,

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Speaker 1: eligible customers. Ashley. Yeah, the very first headline is this

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Speaker 1: it's a big one, uh really big. See the elegant

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01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: three point to five carrot engagement rings Zach Clark gave

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01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: bachelorette Tasia Adams. Okay, yeah, so it's the three point

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01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: five carrots. Damn. It's an emerald cut. So if you

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01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: guys know your cuts, you saw that last night. It's

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01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be very vintage in fashion high style. It's

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01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: inspired by the nineteen twenties. This is what Neil Lane says.

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: He said that this is what he said after his

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01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: sit down with Zach. He goes, he's a very nice guy.

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01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: He's smitten with her, and talked about her kindness, poise

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: in her honesty. He says that he also told him

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01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: that he'd been married before, and Zac was very thoughtful

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: about Tasia and honest about respecting their individual journeys. Neil

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01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: also said that he was certain nervous and excited at

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01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: the same time, but that the ring that he chose

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01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: was classic, bright, very very elegant. The emerald cut is,

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01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, a simple, elegant shape, and and that's elegant

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01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: just like Tasia. He loved how simple it was. It's massive,

1149
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: it's so big. Well, hey, here's an interesting side note,

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01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: and I doubt the show did this on purpose, but

1151
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 1: you know what followed our last global pandemic, the Spanish flu.

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01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: You know what what followed that, right? Was it like

1153
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: a diamond rush or something? No, it was the Roaring twenties,

1154
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: exactly what. This ring is modeled after the Roaring twenties

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: where everybody went out got super fashionable. Uh, you know,

1156
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: partied together because they've it separated for so long. Uh.

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: Interesting and oh this could be the new growing twenties. Well, hey, Ashley,

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01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: next headline is this. We talked about it earlier and

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01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 1: we're getting a little more information on it now. Ba's

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01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: are at Tashia Adams says religion was one of the

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 1: reasons she broke up with Ivan Hall. This according to Intername,

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01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: and this according to Entertainment Tonight. So Tasia talked to

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: Laurence Ema this week jealous. She said that she thinks

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01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: that the beauty of the Fantasy Suites is that you

1165
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to really talk about the things that

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01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: you might be shy about talking about on camera. So, okay,

1167
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: this is definitely addressing the questions that you had earlier.

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: They did talk about religion in the Fantasy Suite. She said,

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: it's really when you dive into the nitty gritty of

1170
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: a relationship and what the future could possibly look like. Sure,

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01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: religion was one of those reasons, but there were multiple

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01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: things that we talked about that night that kind of

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01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: didn't align. At the end of the day, I was

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01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: just looking at my relationships with Zach and Ivan, and

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01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: I just my future with Zachary Surprised she didn't say

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01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: Zach Clark. She loves saying his full name is Zach Clark,

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01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: Zach Clark. Um. She said that it's where her heart

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: led her, and um, I can only just lead with

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: that her heart and unfortunately her relationship with Ivan just

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01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: head in. The next headline is this and it answers

1181
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: another question that we've been asking ourselves throughout this podcast.

1182
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison reveals why it wasn't possible to have the

1183
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: Bachelorette after the Final Rose Disaccording to e Online, Okay,

1184
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: so I don't even I don't really even understand why

1185
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: we couldn't have a simple zoom call between Harrison and

1186
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: Taitia that was live, because Chris says that the reason

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: that they couldn't have and after the Final Rose is

1188
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: because it's just like so it's like painstaking. It's a

1189
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: painstaking process. You know, it's like really hard to get

1190
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: those live shows done. He said there was no AFR

1191
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: because of the holidays and the difficulty of bringing people

1192
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: together safely during this time. It just wasn't possible. But

1193
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll have a fr back for the Bachelor. Um,

1194
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, does it really take a

1195
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: whole bunch of people to just have one live zoom?

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01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean, don't chose do that like the Today Show

1197
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: all the time, Like, why couldn't we have fifteen minutes

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: or something? I don't get it. I don't either. I

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they're not doing it. I really

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: would love to see this couple now, right, I mean,

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01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: I think that's something all of us would like to see.

1202
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: So it's a little bit frustrating. However, I have a

1203
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: feeling that I don't know if I'm right or wrong.

1204
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: But you know, Matt James, this season is right around

1205
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: the corner, and we'll talk about that just a bit.

1206
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: I haven't feeling that Zach and Tasha will be showing

1207
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: up on that season, and maybe there we'll get our

1208
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: first sneak on the Bachelor episodes of the couple. That

1209
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: could be good. That makes sense that they'll have like

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01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: a season catch up with them or something. Yeah, definitely. Well,

1211
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: actually a headline that hits close to home and isn't

1212
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: ideal to talk about, but it is some bastor news. Uh.

1213
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: Just recently, within the last really two hours, um, it

1214
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: was announced that Carly uh Addele and Evan Bass are

1215
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,520
Speaker 1: separating after three years of marriage. Yeah. This is obviously

1216
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: awkward for Ben and I have discussed because this headline

1217
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: popped up, you know, while we were on this podcast

1218
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: recording it, and we are friends with both of them

1219
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: and we haven't had a chance to talk to them yet.

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Speaker 1: So here we are just reading a press release that

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Speaker 1: our friends put out. But the quote is, we have

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Speaker 1: made the difficult decision to separate. We will always cherish

1223
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Speaker 1: our time together and continue to have the utmost respect

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01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: for one another as we focus on what's best for

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: the future of our family. We greatly appreciate everyone's love

1226
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: and support and kindly ask that you please respect our

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Speaker 1: family's privacy as we navigate through this tough Yeah. It's

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Speaker 1: not not ideal and hurts to read, not something to

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01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: be celebrated, not something that is fun to talk about,

1230
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: but it is true. They release their statement, their joint

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01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: statement together. He're just not more than an hour ago,

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01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: Ashley the Bachelor's sneak peek happened, and uh, we're ready

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01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: for Matt James's season. I mean, come on, how good

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01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: does this sneak peak look? It looks like the girls

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: are going to be a huge footbo point. This is

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01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: maybe going to be like one of those seasons where

1237
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:49,440
Speaker 1: the lead almost takes a backseat to the uh, personality

1238
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:56,520
Speaker 1: filled cast. These girls are dramatic. They seem a little caddy.

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01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: They're at each other's throats for a lot of this

1240
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: at this tea uh. And then Matt just seems to

1241
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: be in the background being like, Wow, I'm having a

1242
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:11,919
Speaker 1: hard time. Yeah, I mean knowing Matt too. He he knows. Okay,

1243
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 1: let's all listeners, let's put this into perspective. This man

1244
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: has never been on a television show before he saw

1245
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: his buddy go on the show. His buddy had a

1246
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 1: unique experience on this show. He comes off the show

1247
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about Tyler Cameron. So Matt James kind

1248
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 1: of gets a social media falling from it. Then Matt

1249
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: James becomes a bachelor. He's a terrific dude, but quiet,

1250
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: more reserve. Everybody loves him. He gets thrown into the

1251
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: show that is so overwhelming no matter who you are

1252
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: and how much experience you've had doing it, it's overwhelming.

1253
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: And then he has a cast I will say right

1254
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: now might be the most dramatically from the sneak peak,

1255
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: could be the most dramatic cast that we've seen ever. Like,

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01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: it looks like they are yelling. That looks like there's

1257
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: no holds bar, it looks like it's everybody for each other.

1258
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: It is, and and I haven't watched this season. Nobody's

1259
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: watched this season yet. Here's my take. Actually, coming off

1260
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: of a season like this, I don't want to see

1261
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: a dramatic season. Me neither been. I was like, I

1262
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: don't think anybody saw that proposal, and then then saw

1263
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: the tease and was like, oh, I'm excited for that. No,

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Speaker 1: like I we want to like maybe some people out

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01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: there like there always there always is something entertaining in

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of drama. But we've had seasons before

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: where it's been yelling at each other the whole time.

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: It's and it's hard to watch. It's not fun to watch.

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01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: People are hurt in the process, people are made fun

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01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: of in the process. It's not good for us to

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: break down because we end up saying the wrong thing

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: all the time because we don't know how to break

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01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: it down. Like I want to see a lot of story,

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01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: or at least the attempt at wine. And this just

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01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: felt like too much to me. Yeah, And I was

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01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 1: just saying, you know how it's been so long since

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01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: we had such a happily ever after moment like we had,

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: and we were all just like swooning at the TV

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01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: screen last night, and we love that. That's why we

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01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: watched the show. We watched the show for a little

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01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: bit of jaw dropping, you know, sound bites and such,

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: but we don't watch it for fighting. And I would

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01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 1: say that if it's gonna be a Caddie bunch, the

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01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: girls that are mature and like really there for him,

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: and the ones that I think he's going to hit

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01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: it off with are going to be the ones that

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01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: stay out of it, and they'll be even brighter lights.

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01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: It is gonna be dramatic season. I mean, they always are, right,

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01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: but hopefully we get through the first five weeks and

1290
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: like you said, the ones that haven't been in the

1291
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 1: mix of the drama kind of rise to the top

1292
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 1: and we can start to celebrate and make this season

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: a little easier to watch. But no matter what, we're

1294
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: gonna be watching this season, uh and talking about it

1295
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: with you the absolute whole time. That's what's gonna happen.

1296
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna be here. Well, hey, Ashley, onto

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01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: the next headline. Um, you know, have gone through the

1298
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: Colton cast situation. We know Cassie and Colton moved their

1299
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: separate ways now and Cassie Randolph is according to People,

1300
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: the Bachelor's Cassie Randolph shows offer Elli apartment before moving

1301
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: the quota is she's gonna miss this place. Where's she going?

1302
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't know where she's going. So we know that

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01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: she's still in school. She graduating right now. She might

1304
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,799
Speaker 1: be in the midst of graduating. Yeah, so that's exciting

1305
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: for her, and I guess that's going to give her

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01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, Um, I think she was doing a lot

1307
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: of classes online this week here, so I guess she

1308
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: could have probably been doing it from anywhere. But I

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: know that Cassie, I think prefers the beach life down

1310
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: in hunting Cohamton Beach, where she grew up, which is

1311
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: only like forty five minutes away from where her apartment

1312
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: is in l A. But I think, I think, just

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01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: if I were to get a guest here, that Cassie's

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01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: gonna head closer to the shore, maybe closer to family

1315
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: and out of l A proper. You know, I'm actually

1316
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: I thought she was living with her family. I didn't

1317
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: see it her own. Oh, she lives with her sister

1318
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: Michelle in the apartment. But yeah, yeah, but the girls

1319
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: are home all the time, or so it seems on Instagram.

1320
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: Close family that ran DoLS Well. Hey, Sean Lowe, speaking

1321
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: of family, share sweet photo of kids, gives nod to

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:21,719
Speaker 1: wife Catherine trophies from The Bachelor for people so cute.

1323
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: It's such a cute picture. But then again, what picture

1324
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: of their kids isn't cute? Their kids are so so adorable. Um.

1325
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: His caption was, these are my trophies from the Bachelor.

1326
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: Would have preferred a cash prize, but I'll take it.

1327
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: That is cute. But he also, you know, they got

1328
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,679
Speaker 1: a little they got a little sensitive. He goes dad

1329
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: to too many kids. It's moments like these where I

1330
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: have to stop and thank God for his goodness, I

1331
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: don't deserve these s'mores. Very cute. Well, I'm telling you

1332
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: this now, these kids are absolutely beautiful, Like, what a

1333
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: cute family. However, especially with the oldest, I'm not seeing Sean.

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: They he doesn't look at all like them, Like he

1335
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: has this like brown curly wavy here. Uh you know

1336
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: he's there. But their kids are absolutely I know, they're

1337
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: so cute. He is something. He looks like he could

1338
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: be a little model. No, that's it. Well, hey, happy

1339
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: for the two of them. Obviously a very successful love

1340
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: story from the bachelor world that's still celebrated by so

1341
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: many today. So yes, go to Shan Lowe's instagram to

1342
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 1: see the sweet photo posted um by the dad of three.

1343
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: The final headline of this week is Beca Martinez hits

1344
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: Instagram once again. Now this with a shall I say,

1345
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 1: like pregnant big announcement, not a big announcement, actually, what's

1346
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: going on? Not a big announcement, but she made it

1347
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: look like a big announcement. And gosh you I love

1348
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: that Martinez his Instagram. I tell her all the time

1349
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 1: and like, you are one of the few people that

1350
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: I watch your stories from start to finish. I get

1351
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: excited when there's a new one up. I just think

1352
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: her content is I don't know what it is. It's

1353
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: kind of magnetic for me. I just think that she's

1354
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: so real and she's so natural talking to her phone.

1355
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: When I saw this come up, it was a Gray

1356
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: Gray's Christmas surprise. So Gray is her boyfriend, and she's

1357
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 1: holding in the still image before the video a pregnancy

1358
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: test with the baby. So everybody initially thinks, oh my god,

1359
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: she's pregnant again and she's gonna surprise Gray for Christmas

1360
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: with the positive test. No, no, she goes and not

1361
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 1: this time. She throws away the test and then she

1362
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 1: pulls up to the front of Gray's work with a

1363
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: new truck, and somebody inside that works with him said,

1364
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: somebody's in your truck outside, dude, you better go check

1365
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: it out. And then he runs outside and sees her

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: with the new truck and his old truck, the one

1367
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: she's replacing. It was twenty three years old, so very

1368
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: very cute and nice Christmas surprise there. Well, Ashley, you

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01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: get your boyfriend a truck for Christmas. That's gonna be

1370
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: a hard gift to top. Actually, do you think this

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01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: season top getting a truck for Christmas or a new car.

1372
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's just say it's the Bachelor equivalent to get

1373
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: a new car Christmas. Um next week is the only

1374
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: off week between seasons, which is kind of incredible. But

1375
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: we will not be taking off. We'll be here talking

1376
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: Bachelor headlines and breaking down Matt's bunch of contestants. You know,

1377
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: we'll be doing our whole pre judgmental thing just by

1378
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: looking at pictures and bios. So been right, never even

1379
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: been close, not even I literally have failed at this

1380
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: every time. But it's a blast to do it is.

1381
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: It is funny, but I always feel bad. I'm always like,

1382
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 1: oh god, I I hate judging people based on just

1383
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: a picture. They always say, don't judge a book by

1384
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: its cover. But that's what we do here on the

1385
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast one week every season. And we will

1386
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: see you guys back there for that. We love you

1387
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: so much. Merry Christmas, and we'll see you before there's

1388
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 1: a new year. Until then, I've been Ashley and I've

1389
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: been Ben. We'll talk to you soon. Everybody followed the

1390
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast on I Heart

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,960
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