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Speaker 2: we'll say, the second most famous Missouri Tiger behind Jeff Cross.

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Speaker 2: It's Dallascowboys dot COM's Mickey Spagnola. As always, we've got

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Speaker 2: the three time Super Bowl champion, six time pro bowler

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Speaker 2: Nate Newton. You haven't hear Jeff Cross's name in a while?

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Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 2: Nate and our special guest this evening, we are joined

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Speaker 2: by another three time Super Bowl champion, a pro bowler,

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Speaker 2: and an All Pro. He was a fourth round pick

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Speaker 2: out of UTEP in nineteen eighty nine, and we are

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Speaker 2: thrilled to welcome back former Cowboys defensive end Tony Tolbert. Tony,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for giving us some time hanging

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Speaker 2: out with us tonight. Absolutely, Now, Tony, I gotta ask

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Speaker 2: think it's always good to just start with do you

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Speaker 2: have a really good Nate Newton story?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: That you can tell?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that you can tell?

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Speaker 6: And he stayed on top of him from from the

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Speaker 6: Believe it or not, he didn't like the guys who

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Speaker 3: But Dallas is different. Dallas has always been social media.

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Speaker 4: Well, I can remember putting that pressure on them, right,

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Speaker 2: Only game you won all season long, and it ended

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Speaker 2: come back. You know, we've heard a lot from different teammates, Nate,

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Speaker 2: I know you've heard it. When we've had guys in here,

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Speaker 2: like that. I want to talk about you growing into

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Speaker 2: Bobby Belt from one O five through the Fan, joined

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Speaker 2: tonight by Mickey Spagnola from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We

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Speaker 2: have the six time Pro bowler, three times Super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 2: Tony was the guy who would you know hold people accountable.

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Speaker 6: And that's how you do it. See, he said, look

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Speaker 4: And but game day they listened to Troy and Mike

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Speaker 6: And I know, if I don't know, you will get mad.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's this collection of of you hear so

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00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: many different NFL teams today talk about they want one leader.

441
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: They feel like they're missing just a leader, like they

442
00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: don't have one on the defensive side of the ball,

443
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: they're houp on the offensive side of the ball. All

444
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: these stories that we hear about from you guys, from

445
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: your your time playing together again, it sounds like three

446
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 2: four five, like rare leaders on both sides of the

447
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: ball were there for you guys. Do you think that

448
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: that was and we can just go down the line

449
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: here starting with Tony here, do you think that there's

450
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: something about like like you guys just had a rare

451
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: collection of leaders on your team or do you think

452
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: you guys were able to grow into that because of

453
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Speaker 2: whatever culture was started.

454
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Speaker 5: A lot of the guys grew into it. But the

455
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: thing about it, and they can tell you, I don't

456
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 5: want you jumping up and telling and telling me what

457
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Speaker 5: you're doing and what I need to do if you

458
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 5: wasn't performing, that's right, you had to perform.

459
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Speaker 3: Before I listened to you.

460
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Speaker 5: If I'm watching you get your butt kicked on film, bro,

461
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 5: don't come over here this bottom line will come over

462
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 5: here talking crazy or anything like that, because they could

463
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 5: go back to you know, go back to you the

464
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Speaker 5: wrong way.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that's how we felt.

466
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Speaker 5: So as for the different styles than everybody else blending in,

467
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 5: it just flowed. Sometimes you needed different guys to just

468
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 5: step up in certain situations and it worked out for us,

469
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 5: and that was the great thing about it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they when we've talked about, man, let's

471
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: find some more toughness over here, Let's find this or

472
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 2: that over here. Do you think that given the experience

473
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Speaker 2: that you guys had that you say, I know it

474
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: can be pulled out of guys. I know it can

475
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: be created even when you don't necessarily think it's there.

476
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Speaker 2: You just gotta find the right mix and set the

477
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Speaker 2: right tone.

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Speaker 6: The thing is, Dion came from the forty nine ers,

479
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 6: and that was a truly talented team. Because Dion said

480
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 6: they wasn't as close now. They had a few guys

481
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Speaker 6: that hung, but they didn't do it like we did it.

482
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 6: And so when he came here like, man, I'm home now,

483
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 6: this is where I fit because he found his niche

484
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 6: and where he fitted and we all did our thing.

485
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Speaker 6: And so what I tell people is, once in a

486
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 6: lifetime you'll get what we got. And I think the

487
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 6: early Steeler teams, you know, talking to me and Joe Green,

488
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 6: they had that. Every team sometimes like I don't know

489
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 6: how close Detroit is, but they just talent whooping everybody

490
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 6: right now, you see what I'm saying. They just talent

491
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: whooping everybody. But they in another year or two, they

492
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 6: could be that. You know what I'm saying, Hey, man,

493
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 6: we would we were like this.

494
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Speaker 2: When you point to a team like Pittsburgh who had

495
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Speaker 2: that Pittsburgh universally considered the team of the seventies, Dallas

496
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: team of the nineties. Do you guys think you guys

497
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: won because that was the margin difference was the collection

498
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: of personalities and culture you had, or do you think

499
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: that culture developed because you guys were winning.

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Speaker 6: I think with coach Johnson, he wasn't going to accept

501
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 6: anything else. And he when you when you bring the

502
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 6: talent in and you unleash the talent, it's a different story.

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Speaker 3: He knew what tober Well, he saw in that six six,

504
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 3: two hundred.

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Speaker 6: Twenty eight pounds, and in three years he was two

506
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 6: hundred and forty five, two hundred and fifty. You know,

507
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 6: then he and his where it's about your fifth years,

508
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 6: that's when you went sixty to sixty.

509
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: He was the man because he.

510
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: Went from just playing to run and crying every every

511
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 6: Saturday night to me to all of a sudden he

512
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 6: had the full He was the full deal.

513
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Speaker 3: In this fifth or sixth year, he was the man.

514
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 6: And and to think about it, he was gonna come

515
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 6: off the field too, and it hurt him.

516
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: It hurt him because he would not rest his body.

517
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 6: He would not learn to come off the field until

518
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 6: his last year when he played, he rested and had

519
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 6: remote sacks in his career.

520
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: Because that's just who he was. That's just how we were.

521
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: So from a leadership standpoint, though, let's not kid ourselves,

522
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 4: it was Jimmy Johnson, right. He was gonna run things.

523
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 4: He was gonna set the tone. He would set the

524
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 4: tone with us in the media on Tuesday, and he

525
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: knew these guys were listening when they came into practice

526
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: on Wednesday. It's like oh, Jimmy's not in a good mood.

527
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: We better be careful.

528
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, but the thing is he he it's like a

529
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 6: drill sergeant that have a bunch of new recruits. He's

530
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 6: breaking them down. And once he builds them up and

531
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 6: they know the rules. Once we knew the rules, he

532
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,479
Speaker 6: just unleashed us.

533
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: Bro.

534
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 6: He would never lie to us if we should beat

535
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 6: the team. I remember the time we playing Green Bay

536
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 6: and it was.

537
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 3: Up in Milwaukee and a couple of the announcers got mad.

538
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: Jimmy came in and told.

539
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 6: Us, well, I just did an interview a couple of announces,

540
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 6: Brent Musberger and the other and Randy Grantshaw whatever is

541
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: then Randy whatever.

542
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, I don't care if we as

543
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: long as we win.

544
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 6: I don't care if it's about three or three hundred,

545
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: long as we win the game.

546
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: If y'all go out there and don't make no bad

547
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: plays and y'all just play, were gonna beat them. They

548
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: got mad, but Jimmy went a lot of us. He's

549
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: just telling how it is.

550
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 6: If we was playing a team that was equal talent,

551
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 6: he thought maybe a little bit better, fellas, he would

552
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 6: give us the same speech for it. It's just in

553
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 6: a different way.

554
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

555
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 5: The expectations changed the more we won, yes, and the

556
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: accountability for each other. Even though Jimmy set the tone,

557
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: we were like, look, don't come in here and mess

558
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: this up. Guy, Yeah, don't come in here and messed

559
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 5: this up. We got something going. You could see us becoming.

560
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: There was a bunch of our dogs running together, and

561
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: you know, we didn't have any je you know, we

562
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: were mad with each other because we all wanted to play.

563
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 5: But when it came to Sunday, it was about our business.

564
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 5: Were gonna do what we needed to do to take

565
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: care of our business, make sure we impose our will

566
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 5: on you, and then we're gonna get back on this

567
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 5: plan or we're gonna go you know, wherever we did

568
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: and then moved on, and that mindset went through the

569
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: whole pretty much Old Jimmy's Jimmy's time here and into Switzerland,

570
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 5: and so when other people came into here being draft

571
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: or whatever, it was like, look, pick it up. This

572
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: is where we're at, and if you weren't gonna be there,

573
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: Jimmy will get rid of you.

574
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go ahead and take our second break.

575
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: When we come back. You know, we talk about a

576
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: lot of the struggle that existed for you guys early

577
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: and Mickey was talking about almost this Bad News Bears

578
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: set up in nineteen eighty nine where there was a

579
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: lot of struggle there and and you were wondering, man a,

580
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna put this together. I'm curious when we come

581
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: back from break going to here from all you guys

582
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: a moment that that sticks out to you during the

583
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: lead up to you guys winning Super Bowls where you're like, Oh,

584
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: this is this is gonna work. It's gonna click into place.

585
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: We know this is where we're gonna have success here.

586
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that when we come back here

587
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: on the SLWBC cowboych Cross Talk.

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Speaker 2: dot Com sitting with me tonight. We also have the

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00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: three time Super Bowl champ, six time pro bowler Nate

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00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: Newton with us as always, and our special guest this

601
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: evening is a pro bowler, All Pro and also a

602
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: three time Super Bowl champion, Tony Tolbert. I asked you

603
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: guys before we went to break if there was a moment,

604
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: because I think at least narrative wise, Mackey you were

605
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: you were on the beat at that time, so you

606
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: would probably have a better idea of this. But in retrospect,

607
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: it seems like when people tell the story of the

608
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: nineties Cowboys coming along, they like to point to the

609
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: trip to RFK in ninety one when Washington was undefeated

610
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: as like up that was the statement that Dallas is

611
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: eventually gonna arrive, Like like they're they're starting to to,

612
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 2: you know, make their statement a little bit. But I'm

613
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: curious for for Tony, Nate, you guys, it's the guys

614
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: who played in it and make as you somebody who's

615
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 2: covering it. When did it shift from oh, this might work.

616
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: This thing we've put together here that so many people

617
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: were doubting early on, this might actually work.

618
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 5: For me that Monday night game when we played Washington

619
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 5: and they had just won the Super Bowl, I believe,

620
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: and they came here into Texas Stadium and we took

621
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: care of business that day, and the energy level, the

622
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: crowd level, how competitive we were.

623
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, this is this is different.

624
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 5: And that was the first time where you know, where

625
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 5: I saw everything just clicked together offensively, defensively and special

626
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: team and special teams. And that was probably my moment

627
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 5: for me that that we're here.

628
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 6: For me, it was we had had a success after that,

629
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 6: but for me when we was in the locker room

630
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 6: celebrating the loss behind Detroit, then when when yeah we

631
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 6: had that, we went up to Detroit and and and

632
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 6: and it wasn't then we didn't farewell, which was, uh.

633
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 4: You lost to them twice in that same right for

634
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

635
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,879
Speaker 6: The playoffs, Yeah, that's when when we went up in there.

636
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 6: I felt good when we played the first time, when

637
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 6: we went up there and we lost, we was kind

638
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 6: of like even the coaches was kind of like, hey,

639
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 6: we're here and Jimmy came through that door, cussing Ray

640
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 6: and getting on us, the coaches, everybody, saying, if y'all

641
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 6: think this is it, you are sadly mistaken. We are

642
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 6: better than this. And I will when Monday come, I

643
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 6: will have the schedule on how we gonna work out

644
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 6: and what we're gonna do, because we going further next year.

645
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: And I was like, yep, that's when I said to myself,

646
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 6: you know what, fella, this is something different.

647
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: You know for me.

648
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: And there was a couple tipping points. Okay, one in fifteen.

649
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: They get to the next year and they're three and

650
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: seven and it's like, oh, you know, here we go again. Right, Well,

651
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: then they ran off four consecutive wins and got to

652
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: seven and seven, and you're sitting there going, you know what,

653
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 4: they they just might have something here, and unfortunately Troy

654
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: got hurt in the game at Philadelphia. Babylofenberg came in

655
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: and with a backup quarterback, and they struggled even though

656
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 4: they were seven and eight going into the last game

657
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: of the season. Had they beaten Atlanta, they're going to

658
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: the playoffs at eight and eight, and they paused and

659
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 4: they got wiped out.

660
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: Prime time prime.

661
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: So now get this, They're sitting there at seven and

662
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: nine and the season goes down to the last Monday

663
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: night game, New Orleans the Rams, and they need one

664
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: of those teams to lose, and they were going to

665
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: the playoffs at seven to nine, right right, I think so.

666
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: And then and then they New Orleans kicked the field

667
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: goal as time expired. Right, We're all hanging out cab

668
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: Cafe watching watching the game, and it's like, now the

669
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: season ended.

670
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: But the other point.

671
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: Was in ninety one, I think you guys mentioned it.

672
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 4: They went in and beat Washington twenty four to twenty one.

673
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 4: Michael Irvin star the game. Troy got hurt early in

674
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 4: the third quarter. Burline comes in, uh, and they're able

675
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 4: to win the game. And and at that point that

676
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 4: ruined a perfect season for the Redskins because they finished

677
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: fourteen and two and they gave up the last game

678
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: they didn't need to win, so they ruined their and

679
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, there might be something here. And then

680
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: they won. You won the rest of the games, right yeah,

681
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: finished eleven and five, yep, And it was like okay.

682
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that game specifically, I think there was

683
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: a I think y'all had a surprise on side kick

684
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: recovery in that one. You had an Alvin Harper hail marriage.

685
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 4: At the end of the half.

686
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: I mean it. It was pulling out all the stops

687
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: to win a close game. But it was something that

688
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: a lot of people nationally when they talk back on

689
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: looking back at the team to go, that was the

690
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: declaration that the Cowboys were starting to come around. It's

691
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: interesting you listen to in the immediate aftermath of Dallas

692
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 2: beating San Francisco in ninety two in the NFC Championship game.

693
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: I believe it is Greg Gumble, the late Greg Gumble,

694
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: who's right after Jimmy says how about them Cowboys? Comes on,

695
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: says how about them Cowboys?

696
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: Indeed?

697
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 2: And he starts commentating. He says, this is a Dallas

698
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: team that was meant to be on a five year plan,

699
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: and everybody feels like arrived a little bit early. This

700
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: is this team has arrived one year earlier than kind

701
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: of everybody expected. Did you guys have that feeling when

702
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: that when you won that game in San Francisco, did

703
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 2: you have a feeling like, man, we got here right

704
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: where we were supposed to be, or this where this

705
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: is right on our time. This is what we think

706
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: or did you guys also think we're a little bit

707
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,760
Speaker 2: ahead of schedule?

708
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 8: Here?

709
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: This clicked into place faster than I think anybody realized.

710
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 3: Uh huh, No, I didn't know about any schedules. I

711
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: heard Chris Chris Burman, Is I'm pronouncing that right?

712
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was the first one I heard, because he

713
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 6: was a forty nine Ers fan. Yes, he was the

714
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 6: first one I heard. Yeah, they're a little early. The

715
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 6: forty nine ers are gonna take.

716
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 3: Care of him. And I'm like, whoa giving us no credit? Man? Please?

717
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: We were we were paused.

718
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 6: And ready because I remember they want us to change

719
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: our practice habits, you know, because they feel was all

720
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 6: messing Like I ain't messing up.

721
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: I feel we're finna go out. We fast, we quickly, strong,

722
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: and we're gonna do We're gonna have a lot of business.

723
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: And uh wow, Yeah, I remember the up to that

724
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 4: game and it's like it's too soon for this team.

725
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, too young.

726
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there going, yeah, but they're too talented too,

727
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: you better watch out.

728
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: The big move was was pup uh at corner? Remember

729
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: me from the place I can't think he placed the

730
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: kid out of Al Cornton.

731
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, my favorite guy. Yeah, our favorite guy.

732
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

733
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 6: I remember that was the big move on defense man.

734
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 6: That that really gave us something special on defense man

735
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 6: because Tobden was getting the pressure. We just needed somebody

736
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 6: back there that you know, can make sure they hold up.

737
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 5: And then to add to that, people don't know how

738
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 5: much the acquisition of Charles, Yes, sir, shifted the NFC.

739
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: That's it. He shifted a whole.

740
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 5: Decade by coming here because they couldn't handle him and

741
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 5: he just came in and fit right in with us.

742
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 5: And because of that, that trade, it changed everything for us.

743
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 6: And Steve Young went to the Pro Bowl that year's

744
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 6: they that's where we lost the game by losing Hulls.

745
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: How did you guys, cause you mentioned the the switch

746
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: from ike Hold to going to Pop and then you know,

747
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: we've talked about some of the narratives or some of

748
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: the timeline throughout this season when we look back on things,

749
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: But I mean, going trade for Charles Haley, you know,

750
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: you going trade for Thomas Everett. You know, Ray Horton,

751
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: a veteran kind of gets pushed back to the to

752
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: the side. You've got very competitive, aarious guys on the

753
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: offensive line throughout the time. Ron Stone will going to

754
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: be a pro bowler elsewhere here, he didn't get some

755
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: of the same opportunities you had Brock mary And who

756
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: waited a while to get on the field and then

757
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: finally got on the field and then went somewhere else

758
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: and became a pro bowler. How did you guys balance

759
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: competitiveness without it becoming bitterness, Like knowing you had such

760
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: a competitive talented room and not allowing that to divide

761
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: you instead just allowing you guys to elevate and be

762
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: competitive with each other.

763
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: Well, that that drove our d line when you think

764
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: about it.

765
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: Chad Hennings sometimes didn't dress out, Yeah, Jeff, Jimmy Jones,

766
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 5: Leon Lett, that was the backup us. Yeah, that was

767
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 5: your backup Russell Maryland, myself and Charles. Then you go

768
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 5: back to like the safeties he was. He was a

769
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 5: backup behind behind Russell and and Tony. He was the

770
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 5: swing tackle. Then you had secondary wise just safeties James Washington, Horton,

771
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 5: Thomas Everett and Woods. Woodson was a backup. So there

772
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: was no way, you know, people could say we did

773
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 5: we didn't. We arrived early. It was dead. It was

774
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: just a matter of us figuring it out. To me

775
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 5: and all that depth and the competitive the way we

776
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: competed like we didn't want them to get a damn

777
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 5: yard in practice, and we would get p old.

778
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 3: I mean, inside run was inside run.

779
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: Inside run was war and a little story to that.

780
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 3: I remember my one.

781
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 5: To fifteen and Darren Nelson came here. He came out

782
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: and watched this practice. We were doing middle drills in December.

783
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 5: Want he looked. There ain't no way I can do this,

784
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 5: he asked Jimmy. He went back, He went back. Yeah,

785
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 5: he didn't even want to be around here. But that

786
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: was the tone we were setting. People would come by

787
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 5: here like from other teams and they're like, y'all practice

788
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 5: like this every day.

789
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: Were like, damn, we thought this was normal. We didn't

790
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: know me better.

791
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: That's how we do it, So, Bobby, when they mentioned

792
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: inside drill in training camp in Austin, when it was

793
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 4: time for inside drill, Jimmy would let the media on

794
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: the field. We'd be like ten fifteen yards behind the

795
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, and he wanted us watching because he

796
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: wanted them to know if if you embarrass yourself. They're

797
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: right here watching. And we were that close to inside drill.

798
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 6: I remember, but we was Jordan, and uh it got

799
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: real physical and uh so, I mean he got nasty

800
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 6: one time. And so we was in the gym at

801
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 6: at the at the first place was at in Austin,

802
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 6: and uh, Jimmy say, well, inside run is inside run.

803
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 6: But uh we had too, we had middlerid. Yeah, middle drill.

804
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 6: The mildrid were taken him to the ground. But inside

805
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 6: run it's a stud. He's just gonna thud. And so

806
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 6: Gonna you couldn't get funny with Jimmy, so Emmic Gonna. Hoigh, Hey, coach,

807
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 6: well what is a thug?

808
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: You know? Take to the ground.

809
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: We are about to take our final break.

810
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 6: Cheated on defense, they always Charles told us they always

811
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 6: had an extra safety.

812
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: Well and Charles told us Charles told us a couple

813
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, he's like the veterans used to whistle

814
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: with each other. Hey, place, come in here. Let the

815
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: let the young kid get blown up on this play.

816
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm taking this one off. He's at the south of

817
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: veterans used to whisper to each other. He does it

818
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: come into practice. All right, We're gonna take our final

819
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: breaking the show here. Not just our final breaking the show.

820
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: This is the final break of the Cowboys Cross Talk season,

821
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: as the Dallas Cowboys season did end this past Sunday.

822
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a look back, reflect a little bit

823
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: on this Cowboys season and what's ahead that's next on

824
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,520
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833
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834
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,840
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835
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 2: dot Com. Here with us the three time Super Bowl champs,

836
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton who's been with us

837
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: all year, and then our special guest this evening is

838
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowler, All Pro, three time Super Bowl Champion

839
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: defensive end Tony Tolbert, guys, as we as we kind

840
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 2: of reflect back here in these final few minutes of

841
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: the show and as the season wraps up coming to

842
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: an end last Sunday with the loss to Washington, we'll

843
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: start here, I guess, Mick, we'll start doing We'll just

844
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: kind of go down the line reflections on what's the

845
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: overall theme you think coming out of this season and

846
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: the thing that you think, all right, the focus is

847
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: clear that moving forward, this is the narrative about the

848
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: seamer or this is the biggest question that the seam

849
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: has to answer.

850
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: Well, Number one, some of the most important guys on

851
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: this team suffered some really bad injuries. So will they

852
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: be ready to play in time to start next year?

853
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 4: And does it affect their ability to play? Can they

854
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: play at the same level once they get back. Look,

855
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: here's my point, and I don't think anybody looks at this.

856
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 4: Quarterbacks count And if you look at the fourteen teams

857
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: in the playoffs right now, none of them had to

858
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: play a backup quarterback for more than one or two games.

859
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh started off with a backup until Russell Wilson got

860
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 4: hurt healthy, and then he played one hundred percent of

861
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: the snaps in the last eleven games, no one limped

862
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 4: into the playoffs. So to me, you better have your

863
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: quarterback ready, you better have an offensive line that's not

864
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: kind of young and developing the way they tried to do,

865
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna have problems against the salary cap.

866
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: Again.

867
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 4: Everybody thinks, oh, well, they learned their lesson. They're going

868
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 4: to go out and spend. They have nothing to spend,

869
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: that's the problem, and there's a lot of free agents

870
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: out there.

871
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 2: Nate, how do you look back on this season and

872
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: what do you think needs to change moving forward so

873
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: that they can get back in the play off race

874
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: next year.

875
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 6: What I like is that you had you had due

876
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 6: to the injuries, young guys play. You gained a lot

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Speaker 6: of experience. So we have to make sure that we

878
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Speaker 6: signed the right guys, and we got to push the

879
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Speaker 6: Sarah cap up to the limit and trying to make

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Speaker 6: sure we signed the right guys. And I ain't talking

881
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Speaker 6: about Parses. We're gonna sign Parses. I'm telling my guys

882
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Speaker 6: that a little bit less than that. We gotta find

883
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Speaker 6: a way to sign these guys because if.

884
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Speaker 3: You don't, we're gonna be in worse shape next year.

885
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Speaker 6: So we gotta we gotta find a way, and we

886
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Speaker 6: gotta we gotta find a way with with coach McCarthy.

887
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Speaker 4: Gotta sign the Tony Toberts the way.

888
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Speaker 2: Exactly I gotta find gotta go find more of those Tony.

889
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Speaker 2: How do you look back on this season and feel like,

890
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, back in twenty twenty, this was a six

891
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: and ten football team that in an in an offseason

892
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: became a twelve win team three years in a row.

893
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Speaker 2: What do you think needs to get situated for them

894
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 2: to be back in that position again next year?

895
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Speaker 5: Well, you got to take care of your home phil

896
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Speaker 5: That that I'm surprised about how much they struggled here

897
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 5: in Dallas. You should lose maybe one game and then go,

898
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 5: you know, five hundred on the road. The struggles at home.

899
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Speaker 5: You have to take care of development. Like Nate said,

900
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Speaker 5: you gotta start making sure you draft guys, but you

901
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 5: have to develop them on the process of that.

902
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Speaker 3: And then does Dak separate?

903
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Speaker 5: You know, even though Dak is coming back, do you

904
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Speaker 5: close the gap on Washington and Philadelphia the two teams

905
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Speaker 5: in front of you, Because if that comes back and

906
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 5: you still what eight and nine, you're going to be

907
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 5: in a heap amount of trouble, and then health, you

908
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 5: gotta be healthy.

909
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Speaker 3: Availability is the biggest thing for this team.

910
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Speaker 2: He's just here in the last two minutes that we

911
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: have the Cowboys there their top picks last year, Tyler Geidon,

912
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: Marshawn neland Cooper Bebee. Three guys there who played in

913
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Speaker 2: the same position group that you two played in and

914
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Speaker 2: are likely to be filling or potentially could be filling

915
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: some big voids left line by long standing veterans, you know,

916
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Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence. There's no guarantee you'll be back next sure.

917
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Speaker 2: Zach Martin has has talked very reflectively about how it

918
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: couldn't be back next year, Tony. If you were to

919
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Speaker 2: give one piece of advice to Marshawn Neeland as a

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Speaker 2: guy who's a rookie this year and dealt with some

921
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Speaker 2: injuries and is gonna need to potentially step into a

922
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 2: role vacated by a big time veteran, a big time

923
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Speaker 2: leaving this football team, what would you get in his

924
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Speaker 2: ear about?

925
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Speaker 5: Get healthy, take care of yourself this offseason, get strong,

926
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Speaker 5: do the little things that you know that will make

927
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Speaker 5: you better, and then it's Okay, to go back and

928
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Speaker 5: watch the film and look at where you struggle so

929
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Speaker 5: you can correct those problems where they won't become a

930
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Speaker 5: major problem next year. Everybody, Like when we used to play,

931
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Speaker 5: we used to go back and watch everything we did,

932
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Speaker 5: both good and bad, and they would harp on the

933
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Speaker 5: things that we did wrong so we could correct them

934
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Speaker 5: when we're you know, in the spring, and that's probably

935
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Speaker 5: the biggest thing. Go out and take care of your

936
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Speaker 5: business in the off season and make sure you protect

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Speaker 5: yourself going forward.

938
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Speaker 6: Nate, same thing you would tell offensive line guiding BB.

939
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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's the same. It's we battling one another.

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Speaker 6: It's the same thing. And it's the same thing. And

941
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Speaker 6: BB's gonna take a jump next year. Needland is gonna

942
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Speaker 6: take a jump.

943
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Speaker 3: The thing is, can my man mentally take a jump?

944
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Speaker 3: T have a guy, he's got to take a mental

945
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 3: jump in the weight room.

946
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Speaker 2: That does opp us this season on the SLBBC Cowboys Crosstalk,

947
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Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging around with us all year, thanking to

948
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Speaker 2: Nate newtonhoods hung around all year, Tony Tolbert, all the

949
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Speaker 2: guest we've had, Mickey Spagnol, all the different people. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: our engineer, Ivan, production team, Jazz, Paul, Scott Douglas, everyone else,

951
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Speaker 2: Lake and Allie and the Cowboys tacking out here this year.

952
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Speaker 2: We appreciate you guys when we move, being back to

953
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Speaker 2: you guys later next season, Bobby.

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