1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating Her Space, and the analogy. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: That I like to use is perimenopause can be like 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: getting into your car and the car goes crazy and 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: it puts you on a roller coaster. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: So you're in a car and it just goes nuts. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: You're supposed to be driving and doing what it's supposed 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: to do, but instead it's going all over, up, down, around, 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: flipping over. That would be terrifying. Can you imagine? 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 4: Hey, lady, have you ever felt like the world just 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 4: doesn't get you? Well? 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: We do. 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I look 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: forward to hearing from you. 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: All right, lady. 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Today's guest is no stranger to the show. You may 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: remember her from season twenty five, episode five, where we 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: talked about reclaiming intimacy and sexual health. Doctor Janet Williams, 35 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: MD is a licensed physician and surgeon practicing in Los Angeles, California. 36 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: She's a Board certified specialist in obstetrics and gynecology, a 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: member of the International Society for the Study of Women's 38 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: Sexual Health, and a member of the Menopause Society. Doctor 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Janet has helping women find solutions to their reproductive and 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: sexual health concerns since two thousand and one. Okay she 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: ain't new, it is she true? 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: It is. 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: In addition to her medical practice, she is an intimate 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: life coach, a hypnotherapist and the creator of the Confident 45 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: Pleasure Course, a coaching and hypnosis experience that helps women 46 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: master their intimate health, find pleasure and passion and their 47 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: body so they can make a confident sexual. Comeback, and lady, 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: there's more. You're going to love this. You can find 49 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: doctor Janet's Amazon bestseller Why Don't I Like Sex Anymore? 50 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: The Grown Woman's Guide to Getting your Groove Back and 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Claiming Your Truth, Doctor Janet, Welcome to Cultivating her Space. 52 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: Thank you. 53 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: It's so great to be back. How are you guys doing. 54 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: It's been a little while. It's been a minute, huh. 55 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: It, yes, it has quite a year. 56 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my goodness, yes, yes, yes, okay, lord, yes. 57 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: Well we we are definitely excited to have you back 58 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: with us today for this very important conversation that not 59 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: a lot of people really know much about. Yeah, so 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: we're gonna do I'm going to dive into the quote 61 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: of the day and then we're going to jump right 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: into this conversation. 63 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it, all right. 64 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: Our quote of the day, Doctor Janet. This quote comes 65 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 4: from you from your. 66 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Social media account. 67 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am, you're not superwoman about powering through. All Right, 68 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to say it one more time for the 69 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: folks in the back to make sure that they heard it, 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: because as black women, we need to hear this multiple times. 71 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: You're not super woman. Stop powering through, doctor Janet. When 72 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,119 Speaker 4: when you think about this, your quote and this conversation 73 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 4: that that we're having today about perimenopause and menopause, tell us, 74 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: tell us what what comes up for you? 75 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: Woo so much? 76 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: Okay, The thing is, as you know, doctor domind you 77 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: probably don't have all the research behind this, but you know, 78 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: we are socialized in a way that we are doing 79 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: the most, Like from day one, we're doing the most. 80 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: We're trained that we have to find our worth externally, 81 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: and so we go to college, we get the good job, 82 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 2: we have the nice family, We have the. 83 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: Kids in school, we take. 84 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: Them to all of their you know, soccer practice, blah 85 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: blah blah, all of the things. We're taking care of family, 86 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 2: we're involved in the church, we're you know, handling our careers. 87 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: We're doing all of the things, and we often neglect 88 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: our own needs. 89 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: You know. 90 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: And there is a bit of a like a traumatic 91 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: experience that happens for black girls. I think it happened 92 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: to me, you know, from well intentioned parents who are 93 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: telling those girls, like, you've got to be twice as good, 94 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: you've got to work twice as hard, you know, and 95 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: then you've got like patriarchy put on top of that. 96 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: So there's this burden that is on young women, and 97 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: as we become adults, like, we never get rid of 98 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: the burden, and so we get accustomed to running and 99 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: being that superwoman because there is this ideal that we're 100 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: trying to live up to, which is an ideal that 101 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: is a false ideal that we have to learn how 102 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: to like basically retrain that little child inside of us, 103 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, how to live, you know. And so that's 104 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: what comes up when I think about that power through 105 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: It's a very deep and encompassing, you know, thing that 106 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: it impacts so many different parts of our lives, but 107 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: we don't even we're not even aware of it because 108 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: it's like just in there and it's what we've been 109 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: doing for so long. And then when perimenopause and menopause 110 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: roll around, you now have a biologic physiologic aspect that 111 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: is thrown on top of that is like a stress 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: factor that you know, makes it really difficult and things 113 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: like become a bigger challenge, you know, so that Superwoman 114 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: I call it the Superwoman syndrome, Like. 115 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: We got to figure out ways to get rid of it. 116 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: That is so good, doctor Janet, And as you said that, 117 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: it made me think of a couple of things. So 118 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna adopt into the interview on the topic. 119 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: But I have to ask a follow up question, speaking 120 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: of relearning and like sort of reparenting ourselves around that 121 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: narrative of powering through, what should we be telling our 122 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: inner child or our children, because I have a four 123 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: year old daughter now, and I think sometimes our parents 124 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: they would tell us that out of safety, like to 125 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, thinking they were protecting us, like you said, 126 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: well intentioned adults. But what should we tell them? Because 127 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to take some notes on what you share 128 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: because I did this in real life. 129 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and then you're it's so great, You're you 130 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: have a four year old. This this is the. 131 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Time where they're imprinted, right, This is the time where 132 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: they your our subconscious minds are like imprinted on what 133 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: our belief about the world is. So you can really 134 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: help your child at this stage by letting them know 135 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: that they're worthy. 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: That's it. 137 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: Boom done, that's it, Like there's no you don't have 138 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: to do anything. You don't have to We want you 139 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: to go to school, right, we want you to get 140 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: good grades, but you don't have to do that to 141 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: have worth. 142 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: You're already inherently worthy. 143 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: And so I know for me, I remember, you know, 144 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: at being a child, thinking that that my worth was 145 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: external where I have to you know, whether it's you know, 146 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: follow the Ten Commandments or you know what I mean, 147 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: follow the word of God or whatever the external thing was. 148 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: But that worth is actually internal. It's already there. 149 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: We don't we're born with it, like there's nothing that 150 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: we have to do. And I think that is big 151 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: difference between our white counterparts and us. 152 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: They are kind of it's privileged, right, Like it's the 153 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: idea that. 154 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: You are, you're good, right, Like in a white I 155 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: don't want to get into all of that, but like 156 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 2: in a white supremacist world, you know, the white person 157 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: feels like, Okay, I'm good, you know. 158 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: And that's there's actually nothing wrong with that. 159 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: Like that's how we all should feel about ourselves, right, 160 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: that that worth is inherently there and there's nothing that 161 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 2: you have to do. You just wake up, you're born, 162 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: and you're already worthy. And the rest of it is like, 163 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's iceiner on the cake, it's gravy. 164 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, yes, come on. 165 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 166 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: So when we when we think about this, this worthiness 167 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: and needing to put down this superwoman cape and thinking 168 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: about all the messaging and import seeing that we've received, 169 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: particularly as Black women, how does that show up in 170 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: terms of like thinking about this conversation today about perimenopause 171 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: and menopause, how does that show up for Black women 172 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: who are navigating perimenopause and menopause. 173 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's such a big piece of it. You know, 174 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: managing pretty much any like health issue. 175 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: Wellness issue is something we call biopsychosocial. So there's biology involved, 176 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: there's psychology involved, and there is social impact community involved. 177 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 2: And so when we talk about these like navigating this 178 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: from the standpoint of our worth, the social part of 179 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: it is a really big piece of it. So if 180 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: the community, if the community at large, if you're a 181 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: culture society looks at women who are older over a 182 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: certain age and maybe disregards them, it's almost like it's 183 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: almost like we disappear, you know, like youth is like valued, 184 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: reproduction is valued, and so there's this idea that like 185 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: once that is gone, you're you know, basically menopause is 186 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: when you have a cessation of you know, menstrual cycles. 187 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 188 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: So you're not reproducing anymore after menopause. And so the 189 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: whole idea there is like my worth is tied into 190 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: you know, being a mother or you know, having these 191 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: cycles or being sexual or appearing sexual what is like 192 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: considered sexual, right, and so when we make that transition 193 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: and we're living in a society that doesn't value us 194 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: in that way, it can be very difficult on your worth. 195 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: Like people don't know what to do, you know. 196 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: Because it's like all of your life you've been operating 197 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: under this one operating system, and now it's like there's 198 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: this silence, there's a void, there's void of help, there's 199 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 2: void of acknowledging you know that you're so beautiful, And 200 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: especially in our society, I know there are societies that 201 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: value elderly and people who are over a certain age, 202 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: but in our society and our culture, that's not the case. 203 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: And that's why it is so difficult to navigate from 204 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: that like social aspect of things. 205 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing that, and I just kind of 206 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: want to take a step back to one define perimenopause 207 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: and even menopause in general, because I think when I 208 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: was younger, it was something I heard my like mom 209 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: or grandmother, maybe my grandmother more so talk about, and 210 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: from that perspective at a young age, was like, oh, 211 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: that something happens to older women. Well, now I'm a 212 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: problem knocking on the door to that today. So we 213 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: could define that and also let women who are in 214 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: their twenties and thirties know why it's important to have 215 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: the conversation. 216 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So menopause is basically a day. Menopause is the 217 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: day that you've gone one year without a menstrual period. 218 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: So perimenopause is, you know, the years before that day, 219 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: and then postmenopause is any time after that day. Now 220 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: we don't know, you don't know when your menopause is 221 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: if you're still having cycles, because you know if that's 222 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: your last cycle or if you're going to have another 223 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: one the following month. And then for most women in perimenopause, 224 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: the cycles usually kind of like space out, like you 225 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: might have a very light one and then you know, 226 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 2: maybe you'll have a period that comes back again normal speed. 227 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 3: But for most women, we don't know. 228 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: Until like you're like, hey, it's been a year and 229 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: I haven't had a period. 230 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: Now. 231 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 2: What happens in perimenopause is the hormones, especially where and 232 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: there's a lot of hormones that have fluctuations, but the 233 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: main one that we're thinking about is estrogen, and so 234 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: over time that estrogen declines, but it also goes up 235 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: and down, so like every time you have a menstrual cycle, 236 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: sometimes it's going way high. And so this is why 237 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: we see women at this time having problems with like heavy. 238 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: Periods or irregular periods. 239 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: We might see fibroids growing because fibroids are under the 240 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: influence of estrogen. So if there's lots of estrogen floating 241 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: around doing crazy things, that can. 242 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: Cause those fibroids to grow. 243 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: An analogy that I like to use is that perimenopause 244 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: can be like getting into your car and the car 245 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: like goes crazy, and it's like it puts you on 246 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: a roller coaster. 247 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: So you're in a car and it just goes nuts. 248 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: You're supposed to be driving and doing what it's supposed 249 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: to do, but instead it's going all over, up, down, around, 250 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: flipping over. That would be terrifying, can you imagine. Okay, 251 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: so if you don't have any understanding of what perimenopause 252 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: can be, it's like getting in your car and being. 253 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: In a roller coaster. Whoever, if you went to six Flags. 254 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: And you stood in line and you're like, I'm getting 255 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: on this roller coaster, it can be scary, yes, but 256 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: at least you have the understanding that you're getting on 257 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: a roller coaster and you're like, okay, maybe it's a 258 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: little fun. Okay, now we're going up, we're going to Okay, yeah, 259 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: they told me about this curve. 260 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 3: You know, so it can. 261 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: Be not as frightening as terrifying when you know what's 262 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: going on and what's happening in the body. And so, 263 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: like I said, perimenopause is the time period before and 264 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: for most people that happens after forty you know, from 265 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: forty to forty five anywhere in there is when people 266 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: tend to enter into perimenopause, and then you know, it varies. 267 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: But like that's kind of like the the basic definition. 268 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 269 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: Okay, now that's opened up way that's opened up way 270 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 4: more questions, right, Okay, So what we've been seeing online 271 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 4: is that women are talking about being going through menopause. Now, 272 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: you just said menopause is that one day, right, like 273 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: when you're period sees exists? Yea. And we've also seen 274 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: I've seen online women talking about experiencing peri menopause in 275 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 4: their thirties. How And you said it's a roller coaster, right, 276 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: And we don't know a lot of things, we don't 277 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: know what to expect. Yeah, how does one know when 278 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: they truly are entering into perry menopause? Like what might 279 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: be Like let's say that I am Let's say I'm 280 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: thirty eight, generally healthy, haven't have been one of the 281 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 4: very few black women that didn't have fibroids, pcos, endometriosis, 282 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 4: none of those things? Right? And my parients have been regular, 283 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 4: I'm not on birth control. How do I know what 284 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: are the things that I need to look out for 285 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 4: to let me know that I might be answering perimenopause. 286 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: Well, I would just say, like, here's the thing. It's 287 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: a little tricky because there are nearly a hundred different 288 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: symptoms of menopause and perimenopause. Okay, the most common ones 289 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: are going to be like menstrual irregularities, hot flashes, sometimes 290 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: sleep disturbances, people waking up in the middle of the 291 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 2: night to sleep, and then vaginal dryness or pain. Suddenly 292 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: you're having pain with intercourse. All of these are tied 293 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: into estrogen levels. Now, for some people who aren't even 294 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: close to menopause, they might have hot flashes. There's some 295 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: people who will have hot flashes when they're on their period. 296 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know if anyone, if anyone listening 297 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: has experienced that, but it's really related to the hormone estrogen, Okay, 298 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 2: And so what happens with estrogen. There are thousands or 299 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, probably trillions of estrogen receptors in our bodies. 300 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: And the estrogen receptors are where the estrogen molecule binds 301 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 2: in the body to do various functions in the body. 302 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: So we know that the estrogen receptor is very involved 303 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: in the thermoregulatory centers in our brain or meaning the 304 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: thermostat in our brain. 305 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: And this is the reason why. 306 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: People have hot flashes, because when the estrogen levels go down, 307 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: that thermostat is not working. Properly, and it falsely tells 308 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 2: the body that it's hot and it tries to cool 309 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: you down. So that's just one example of where that 310 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: estrogen receptor works. The estrogen receptor is in our skin, 311 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: so people will have dry skin. It is in our collagen, 312 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: so people will often have a decrease in collagen in 313 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: their bodies. Also in connective tissues, so a lot of 314 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: people will have suddenly frozen shoulder. Like the list of 315 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 2: symptoms just goes on and on. But again, the most 316 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: common things that we see are menstrual irregularities, hot flashes, 317 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: mood changes as well, because the reason for that is 318 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: that the same part of our brain that kind of 319 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: manages the anxiety and depression interacts with the same sleep 320 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 2: centers in our brain, the same and thermal regulatory center 321 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: in our brain. There's something called and I'm getting a 322 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: little nerdy here, but there's something called a candy neuron. 323 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: It's KNDy neuron that is very integral to all of 324 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: these things that connects with this estrogen receptor. So there's 325 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: a lot of biology that's involved with the symptoms that 326 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: might you might present with, and it makes it difficult 327 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: because those estrogen receptors are in all parts of our 328 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: body and are involved with so many functions, so it's 329 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: tough to say. The short answer is it's tough to say, 330 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: but I would say that if your periods are changing, 331 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: if you're missing periods. 332 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 3: That might be a sign. 333 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: Wow. 334 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: This is mind blowing. And it's so interesting that you know, 335 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: Dom and I were talking about this before we started 336 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: the conversation. I didn't we didn't learn about this growing up, 337 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: perimenopaus especially, and it's something that feels trendy these days, 338 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: like people are talking about it, were on social media, 339 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: and so I can imagine if you start having these symptoms. 340 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: I love the analogies used. By the way, if you 341 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: start having these symptoms, you get into your car right 342 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: going back to the analogy, and it starts performing like 343 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: a roller coaster. You're like, what the WTF? 344 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: Like? 345 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: It can be devastating. And so let's talk about community 346 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: and also just resources for women who are experiencing this. 347 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: We know that you've created a wellness community for women 348 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: that are navigating nepause and menopause. Tell us about what 349 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: inspired you to create that group, and you also share 350 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: with us something really interesting. Before we started let's see, 351 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: what was the name of your It was Hot Flash 352 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: Chill System. 353 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: So tell us all about this. 354 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So, I, you know, when I was going through perimenopause. 355 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm fifty one. I went through menopause 356 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,880 Speaker 2: last year. 357 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: Okay, and look good, Okay, come on, you won't where 358 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying. 359 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: Okay. But yeah, so I went through menopause last year. 360 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: But when I was in my forties, I, you know, 361 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: went through a really difficult time. I you know, went 362 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: through fertility treatments that didn't work, and the fertility I 363 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: found out that the embryos. So when you go through 364 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: fertility treatments, you take your egg, you take the sperm, 365 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: your partner sperm. They put it together and then they 366 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: you know, create basically embryos, and if those embryos are healthy, 367 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: then they can implant them, you can get pregnant, and 368 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: you can have a baby. So I went through the 369 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: process of you know, getting embryos and create, you know, 370 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: to create these embryos, and then I found out that 371 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 2: all of the embryos were not compatible with life, they 372 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: were not healthy embryos, and so that was a very devastating, 373 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: you know thing for me. Having gone through surgeries and 374 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: injections and you know, all kinds of ultrasounds probing my body, 375 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, to try to have a baby, and it 376 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: didn't work. And so after that experience, I was like 377 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: in the middle. I was in my forties, in the 378 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: middle of like some really tough, you know stuff I 379 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: was going through, and I was also in perimenopause, and 380 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: I was looking for someone like me, you know, that 381 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: had some medical understanding, had some like reference like personal 382 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: understanding of what it was that I was going through. 383 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 2: I wanted a black doctor that understood the the implications 384 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: of being a black woman, a professional woman, you know, 385 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: who had just lost you know, the dream of having 386 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: a family, all of that, and I couldn't find it right. 387 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: Like I kind of pieced it together, like I had 388 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: a life coach. I got a life coach. I had 389 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: a therapist, you know, I had and then I did hypnosis. 390 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: So these are the these are like the elements of 391 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: the program that I have. But I kind of pieced 392 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: that together and that was the thing that worked for me. 393 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 2: But I was actively looking for someone like older than 394 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: me that had the experience that you know, could speak 395 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: to it. And I just didn't find it and maybe 396 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: she was out there, but I couldn't find her. And 397 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: so that's why I created the community, because it's just 398 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: something that is needed. And even though doctors want to help, 399 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: we're not trained on this stuff. You know, there's a 400 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: study that came out on medical residents, so people who 401 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: were in training, who were asked about their comfort level with, 402 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: you know, managing menopause and sexual health, and there was 403 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: about six point eight percent that said, we're comfortable with that. 404 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 4: That's it. Wow, that's it, that's it, that's all yea. 405 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: And even as an obg y N there's no there 406 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: was not like a there was no training on menopause 407 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: like literally maybe like a chapter, like a short chapter. 408 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 3: There was nothing. 409 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: That is wild. 410 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: It really is. 411 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: It's wild. Yeah. 412 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: But you remember, for like sexual health is even sexual medicine, 413 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: and sexual health is even smaller, like people are not 414 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 2: comfortable with it. And actually, when I came at a residency, 415 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: somebody asked me, was like, oh girl, you're an obgy, 416 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: tell me what about sexual positions? 417 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: And I was on anything about that. 418 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: I had to learn it, you know, something that I 419 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: was interested in and I had to learn it. 420 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: And so same thing with the menopause. 421 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 2: And now because it's like menopause, like you said, is 422 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: kind of trending now people are paying attention to it 423 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: because patients are demanding it, you know, and so that 424 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 2: is something that's changing, thankfully. 425 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: But you know, long story short. 426 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: That is the reason why I started this community because 427 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: there was a need for it. 428 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: There's something that I needed. 429 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: And tell us about the Hot Flashed Chill system. That 430 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: was so yeah, that was so good too. 431 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 432 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: So the hot Flash Chill System is a kind of 433 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: program that you can use to cool down hot flashes 434 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 2: to get better sleep, which can eventually improve your libido 435 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: as well, and then also to improve improve your mood. Right, 436 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: And so it uses some education, so digital video courses 437 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: with yours truly to educate you on all of the 438 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: the number one the reason why hot flashes happen and 439 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: kind of the science behind it, as well as the. 440 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: Treatment options that are available. 441 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: All of the treatment options from hormones to supplements into 442 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: my favorite hypnosis and so hypnosis clinical hypnosis is a 443 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: proven treatment for hot flashes and it's actually rivals, you know, 444 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 2: hormone therapy. It's like kind of right up there with 445 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: its effectiveness and the reason. 446 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: The reason why is. 447 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: Because we're basically utilizing our our mind body connection. Because 448 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, there's three centers of the mind. So you've 449 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: got the conscious mind, and that's part of our mind 450 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: where we're kind of talking now, we're thinking about what 451 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: we're gonna have. Well, you guys, I don't know what 452 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: you guys are East coast right? 453 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 3: Are you not here? 454 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 4: We're here, Yeah, we're here in California with yeah. 455 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be thinking about what's for dinner, you 456 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So, so that's our conscious mind. The 457 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: subconscious mind, like I mentioned before, is. 458 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Where our memories are held, where are where our emotions 459 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: are processed, where our beliefs about the world are. 460 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: And then it also so communicates with the unconscious mind. 461 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 2: And the unconscious mind is our autonomic nervous system, So 462 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: the part of our mind that controls the systems that 463 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: are going underneath the surface. So like if we figure 464 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: out in our conscious mind what we're going to have 465 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: for dinner, and I say, okay, I'm going to have 466 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: a solid so I then eat the salad. I start 467 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: eating the salad, I swallow it. After I swallow it, 468 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 2: the autonomic nervous system takes over rest and digest more 469 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: fight or flight, And so I swallow that salad and 470 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: then my body takes over It starts breaking it down, 471 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: putting the enzymes in there, you know. But I don't 472 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: have to think about those enzymes. I don't direct my 473 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: stomach to release those enzymes. 474 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,719 Speaker 3: It just does it. But as we know, like we 475 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: can't control our blood pressure, for example, we can calm 476 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 3: our nervous system down by thinking right, and so that 477 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 3: is how hypnosis works. It works to get into that 478 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: subconscious mind and basically change the body chemistry and communicate 479 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: with the autonomic nervous system so that that center in 480 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 3: our brain that controls the temperature doesn't think it's cold, 481 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: it doesn't think it's hot. Right, so now it's like 482 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 3: falsely like setting off the alarm. We can kind of 483 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: retrain that center of the brain to like turn their 484 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 3: thermostat back down and not like cause us to get hot. 485 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: And so it's really a powerful tool. It's low risk, 486 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 3: there's no pharmaceuticals involved. Pretty much everybody can be hypnotized. 487 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 3: Like if you have a normal level of intelligence, you're 488 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: able to be hypnotized and you're able to follow directions. 489 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: So it's a. 490 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Great tool that and another reason why I created it 491 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: was because, you know, black folks, we're often scared of stuff. 492 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: We're often scared of things that can help us. And 493 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: my hope is that when people realize that this is 494 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: not you know, it's not witchcraft, it's not like mind control, 495 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: you know, like people. 496 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: Are like hypnosis. 497 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 2: We had a plate claim the lett of Jesus, like, yes, 498 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: it's not it's not that. It's literally like a way 499 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: for us to you know, use what's in our body, 500 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: what God created in our bodies, to you know, help 501 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: us feel better. 502 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for answering that and telling us 503 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: about the power of hypnosis related specifically related to navigating 504 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: symptoms of menopause and perimenopause. And so I'm curious in 505 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: your work, particularly with black women. Mm hmm, what are 506 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: you seeing in terms of how like because you said 507 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 4: that they're like one hundred symptoms that tend to show 508 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: up right for black women in particular, what are the 509 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: things that you're seeing that we might be ignoring as 510 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: signs of perimental Paulis. 511 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: Hmmm. I think that there is a. 512 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: Emotional piece to this, the mental health piece to it 513 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: that we often are ignoring. So it's again that like 514 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: pushing through kind of superwoman syndrome. 515 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: So that's that's one piece of it. 516 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: And then there's there's fear, like we've got fear in 517 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: medicine as it is, right, Like, you know, so much 518 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: has happened in medical racism, and we're afraid of the treatments, 519 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: we're afraid of the doctors. We don't know who to trust, like, 520 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: so there's that piece of it, and then kind of 521 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: almost like putting your head in the sand, like I'm 522 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: just not going to deal with this, right, And the 523 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: truth is it's not. 524 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: It's it doesn't need. 525 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: To be scary, right. It feels scary, but it doesn't 526 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: need to be scary. And I think for black women 527 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: because we have a different type of chronic stress on 528 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: us that manifests as a physical manifestation. Right, So if 529 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: your your stress is higher, your cortisol levels are higher. 530 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: And this is another little nerd fact for you, but 531 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 2: the our cortisol is produced in the adrenal glands, which 532 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: are two little organs that sit on the top of 533 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: our kidneys and the back area. So the primary place 534 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: that our body produces estrogen is in the ovaries. The 535 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: secondary place that the body produces estrogen is in the 536 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: adrenal glands, and if your levels of cortisol are high, 537 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: that means your adrenal glands are pushing out more stress 538 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: hormone and they can't push out estrogen if your stress 539 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: hormone is being pushed out from the adrenal glands. So 540 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: it's a small thing, but it's another reason why stress 541 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: might be making your menopause worse because the other source 542 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: of estrogen in your body is not being you know, 543 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: it's not being produced there. So I my belief is 544 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: that you know, the symptoms that black women experience more 545 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: are related to stress. Belly fat when we see the 546 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: changes in our bodies and we're you know, one of 547 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: another one of the complaints that women have. 548 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: Is belly fat. 549 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: Belly fat is inflammatory fat. So when our cortisole levels 550 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: are high, we can't sleep, or if we're not sleeping, 551 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: we're not getting we're having more cortisol levels. That cortisol 552 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: level causes our body to try to protect us. Right, 553 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: so in the protection it's depositing fat for storage. It's like, okay, 554 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: we're in survival mode. We need to save this fat. 555 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: For you know, the winter, right, and so instead of 556 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: you know, depositing the fat in places that it normally 557 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: will go, it begins to go into what we call 558 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 2: visceral fat. And that visceral fat is kind of a 559 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 2: dangerous fat. And it's that's the thing that you know, 560 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: hits that menopause belly that we see. And so to summarize, 561 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: I believe that for women Black women, the reason why 562 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: we're struggling more is because of our stress levels. And 563 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: it's all I mean, it's all tied in. It's that biopsychosocially, 564 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: it all is tied in. 565 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: This is so fascinating. Oh my goodness, will you when 566 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: you I love when you nerd out by the way, 567 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: when you die the details not Oh, I got to 568 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: go research. This is amazing. When you I'm thinking about 569 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: something you said earlier around I think it was like 570 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: defining either all womanhood or sess by like potentially the 571 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: attention we get our sexual prowess or childbearing ability. And 572 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: so I'm thinking about the connotations associated with menopause in 573 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: the past, and I think that a lot of people 574 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: that I heard talk about menopause kind of made it 575 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: sound like it's the end of a woman's vitality. How 576 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: would you reframe that narrative. 577 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 3: Well, I just think that it's the beginning, right, because 578 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 3: it's a time where you now, we don't have to 579 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: worry about the you know, complications that come with being 580 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: a mother, you know, or getting pregnant, right, like, that 581 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 3: part is gone. You don't have to worry about pads 582 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 3: and tampons and all of that, right, No, that's right. 583 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 3: And then once we realize that our sexuality is not 584 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: over like people think that's the end, right, and our 585 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: illness doesn't have to take over like it doesn't. So 586 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, we can actually be healthier, you know now 587 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: because there's a little bit more time. And then if 588 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 3: you have an understanding. 589 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: My thing is always this, if you have an understanding 590 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: of what's going on, what's actually going on in the body, right, 591 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: then you can connect the mind to the body and 592 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: like you can do what you can't your part that 593 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 2: you can do to bring the body into alignment. 594 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: You know, for the parts that don't work. You know, 595 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 3: we're not in a perfect. 596 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: Utopia, so there's we're not going to be perfect. So 597 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 2: sometimes we need medications. Like I use medication. I have 598 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: a patch on my on my body right now for 599 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: hormone therapy, Like hormone therapy is not for everybody, but 600 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 2: it can't be helpful. But so you've got to figure 601 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 2: out what is the right formula for you because everyone 602 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 2: has their own formula. But I you know, once we 603 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 2: realize that there is a way to have pleasure, to 604 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 2: have peace, to have passion, all of those things are 605 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: available and are you know possible, Like it's that reframe. 606 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: That's it like reframing and knowing that that is a 607 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: possibility and then just figuring out what your particular you 608 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 2: know formula is. 609 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: So good. 610 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: Thank you so speaking of figuring out our own individual 611 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 4: like formula, as I'm listening to this conversation, like I'm 612 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 4: thinking about questions that I'm going my next doctor's appointment, 613 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 4: Like I've got a question that I'm going to be asking, 614 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 4: and and so for our listeners when they get ready 615 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 4: to go and speak with their healthcare provider, what are 616 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 4: the things that they need to be asking, like is 617 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: there a test that can determine where their estrogen levels are? Like? 618 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 4: Are so what are what questions should our audience be 619 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: asking of their healthcare providers? 620 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this. 621 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, a lot of healthcare providers aren't dialed in right, 622 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: and so part of the reason why I created the 623 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: community that Change community is to help people be armed 624 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: with the right information to be able to ask the 625 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: right questions and then know what the treatments are so 626 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: that they can actually help their doctor, like help them, 627 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: you know, because the thing is, it's like, you guys have. 628 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 3: Been to the doctor. What do you have like twenty 629 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 3: minutes with the doctor? 630 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: Right? If that yeah, and. 631 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 2: Then that doctor has probably got like twenty other people 632 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: that they're seeing that day. They've got like really probably 633 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: about ten minutes because they're probably running behind. Sometimes they 634 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: double book art appointments, right, So it's like it's not 635 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: really the fault of the doctor because they didn't get training. 636 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,959 Speaker 2: And then most of them, you know, if you're in 637 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: like corporate medicine, like you, there's a bottom line that 638 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 2: they're having to reach. So I the reason that I 639 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: created these programs is so that people could go through 640 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: the program, know what's going on with themselves, and then 641 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: be able to navigate the current system that we have. 642 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: It's not changed yet, right, Okay. 643 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: So that's that's the first part to get into specifics 644 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: in terms of the test that you would want to check. 645 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 3: You can check estrogen, you can check. 646 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 2: A FSH level, a follicle stimulating hormone level. Those are 647 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: two things that we can check. But really more importantly 648 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: is what are you feeling and what are you experiencing? 649 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: Because if you remember that, it's a roller coaster. 650 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: So if I check your if I check your levels 651 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 2: and they're high, tomorrow they might be low, right, So 652 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: it doesn't. 653 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: Really help us. 654 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: Like your impaimenopause, right, and you're over authority in your impairimenopause, 655 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 2: so they can check those levels, and you know, it 656 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: will help to just give us some more information, but 657 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 2: it doesn't really change what we need to do. Right, 658 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: So what we need to do is based on what 659 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: you're feeling and what your particular symptoms are. 660 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 661 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that does make it. 662 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: And that's part of the difficulty because like, let's say 663 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 2: your symptom is the shoulder pain, then you're going to 664 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: go see your primary care doctor and they're like, oh, 665 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 2: let's refer you to ORTHO, right. 666 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: And then the ORTHO. 667 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: You know, the medical society is not clued into some 668 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 2: of this already, right, So unless you're dealing with the 669 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: menopause specialists like they may not be aware. 670 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: This is such a needed conversation and I love your 671 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: approach to the topic because it's so empowering and it 672 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: sounds like I mean, I think many black women we've 673 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: had to do this where we do our own research 674 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: find like you said, you had to kind of piecemeal 675 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: your support and then we go to the doctor with 676 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: we come with notes and questions and you know, our 677 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: proposals and whatnot. But I'm thinking about what you mentioned 678 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: around the formula and creating a formula that works for 679 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: you because it varies from person to person. So it 680 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: sounds like understanding what you're feeling, but also your patterns 681 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: because it can change so much. Join one of your 682 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: wellness communities for sure, hypnosis you mentioned checking your estrogen 683 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: or FHS level, and then also hormone therapy. Are there 684 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: any other potential options that for women that are in 685 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: that phase of the journey they're trying to figure out 686 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: what they want to kind of add to their toolkit 687 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: or their formula. 688 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: I think, to kind of broadly, I talk about a 689 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: couple supplements that are probably good for everyone to take. 690 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 2: For vitamin D, a lot of black women in particular. 691 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 2: Most people have vitamin D deficiency, and vitamin D is 692 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: very important for a lot of the metabolic processes that 693 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 2: happen in our body, and we can have, you know, 694 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 2: things like fatigue that we can feel if we are 695 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: vitamin D deficient, and then if you're im paerimentopause, that 696 00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 2: sort of like gets amplified. So vitamin D is a 697 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 2: good supplement. You might want to have your levels checked 698 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 2: on that. A lot of most of us are deficient. 699 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 2: So another one of the major problems that people experience 700 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 2: in menopause and perimenopause is sleep problems like waking up 701 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: in the middle of the night three o'clock in the morning, 702 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 2: four o'clock in the morning. This is a common you 703 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: know thing, and again this is related to those neurons 704 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: and that portion of the brain that control your level 705 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: of sleep. So there's some some hormones and neurotransmitters or 706 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 2: brain chemicals that like tell your body to stay asleep 707 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: and then tell your body to wake up, and so 708 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: that you know, that balance gets thrown off, and so 709 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 2: we can use certain supplements to help with that. One 710 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 2: of my favorites is magnesium supplement, and that can help 711 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: aid sleep, it can help restlessness, and it's a great 712 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: thing for anxiety as well around around bedtime. So that's 713 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 2: another their supplement that I recommend across the board. Omega 714 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: three fatty assets are really important to have supplement, and 715 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 2: like you can get that in walnuts and salmon. So 716 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 2: those are just a couple of things that you can 717 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: eat and take to improve some of the perimenopause and 718 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 2: menopause symptoms. 719 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 4: You so much for that. 720 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: Now. 721 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 4: As you're saying, as you were sharing the particularly around 722 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 4: like the supplements, I was like, oh, yeah, like this 723 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 4: is this is sounding familiar because I've seen advertisements on 724 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 4: social media for this supplement, that supplement and and so 725 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 4: what came up for me as you were sharing all 726 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 4: that is because the conversation around perimenopause and menopause is trending. 727 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 4: That increases the likelihood for like scams and false advertising 728 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 4: and people trying to take advantage of folks who need 729 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 4: legitimate information. So how can we how can we determine 730 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 4: whether a particular vitamin or supplement or any resource is 731 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 4: actually legitimate and would be could potentially be beneficial to us. 732 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough because there's so much stuff out 733 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 2: there and people are all trying. 734 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 3: To make a book. 735 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 2: So I would see if the person that you're talking 736 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: you know with, or you know following on Instagram influencer, 737 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: if they're like a member of the Menopause Society, for example, 738 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 2: because they sort of set the rules and they do 739 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 2: their things based on research. And I understand that not 740 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 2: everybody falls within the research, but like it's our best guests, 741 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: so to speakers, our best scientific guest right is to 742 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: use the research that's out there to guide what we do. 743 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 2: And so I would, you know, try to work with 744 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 2: a menopause somebody who follows the tenets of the Menopause Society, 745 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 2: and the Menopause Society actually has like patient information as well, 746 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: so you can use them as a you know, reputable resource. 747 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: This was so informoucy of doctor Janney. Thank you so 748 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: much for your time, but also thank you for being 749 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 1: the person that you wish you had when you were 750 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: going through, you know, that phase of your journey. This 751 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: is so valuable. I'm literally typing away taking notes like 752 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: all right, I need to make sure I have this 753 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: vitamin and this vitamin just to get you know, get 754 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: myself ready. Is there anything that we haven't talked about 755 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: or cover that you think we should before we. 756 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 3: I mean, girls, ladies, there's so many things. 757 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I could go on from helps, but I 758 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 2: mean that is part of the reason why I also 759 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 2: have a YouTube channel, so I you know, periodically, will 760 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: try to weekly get on there and gives drop some 761 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 2: more nuggets. So there's lots, there's so much, right, you know, 762 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 2: We've got a hundred symptoms and then there's one hundred 763 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: and you know, maybe three hundred solutions for you know, 764 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 2: various things. So we can't cover it all obviously in 765 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: an hour, but yeah, so definitely tap into that resource. 766 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: So, lady, you can go to her YouTube channel, buy 767 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: the books, join the community, share her work, because we 768 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 1: need to highlight black women, especially who are in this 769 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: field doing this work. It's so important. So doctor Jannet, 770 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: we appreciate you so much. Thank you for the conversation, 771 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: and we look forward to having you on in the future. 772 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: Get into another topic. 773 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me. It's been fun. 774 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: Thank you. 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