1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I am six forty. You're listening to the john and 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. We're on 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: from one until four, and after four o'clock you go 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: to the iHeart app for the Johnny Ken on demand 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: podcast and you can now listen twenty four to seven 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: and here every bit of the show every day and 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: if you do in money, it's coming up in about 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: ten minutes. Again, we still had the KFI Inflation compensation 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: contest one thousand dollars cash with a keyword, and we 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: also have in place the moistline. We got a hack 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: for the dumpster today though, was very special because it's 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: both hacking a dumpster and Satan's Lake a Fire. Oh, 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Satan's Take a Fire. We have never done that. We're 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: doing both with several individuals. They're getting a double treatment. No, 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: some are going in the dumpsters, some are going into 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: the Lake of Fire. There's several people involved, and we've 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: decided that at least one deserves in the special category 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: of the Lake of Fire. Let's find out all of 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: that are coming up in the three o'clock hour. I 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: had to check the calendar, right, it's July fourteenth, Yeah, 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: so it might be hot. The stories about the heat 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: are just the being to overwhelm and any any level 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of sanity I have seen out of control. I won't 24 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: watch them, I won't read them. It's burbank, kid, that 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: happens every July. Well, yeah, it's it's stand the obsession 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: with this, Well it's it's partly hysteria to whip people 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: up to watch and click, and and it partly is there. 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: They've got this climate agenda, so they know the average 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: person doesn't really know what the high temperature is supposed 30 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: to be, so they can make any high temperature sound 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: extreme if you want, right, I mean, what's what's the 32 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: average daily high in LA in mid July? I don't know. 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: Is it eighty three, is it eighty eight, is it 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: ninety one? Nobody knows, So you just pick an upper 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: and say, oh my god, this is yeah. Okay, all right, 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: we'll get into that with some ration and reason. Uh, 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: let's begin with, well, you know, why become a porchs 38 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: thief and steal a package off of somebody's front porch, 39 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: or reach into their mailbox and steal their mail in 40 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: case there's checks or something in there. Why don't you 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: just rob the postal carrier. How bizarre is this blake trolley. 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 1: CAFI News is covering the story for a CAFI This 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: happened in Studio City. 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Actually this happened in North Hollywood, but they took I 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: believe the key they stole from the mail carrier over 46 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: to Studio City to start ripping off mail. And yeah, 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: the Postal Inspection Service guys is looking for armed thieves 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: who held up a mailman in North Hollywood. The again 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: offering fifty thousand dollars for information on the thieves. And 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: I would guess this is actually partonally an attempt to 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: get a big discount on fixing the issues this could cause. 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: All of this went down Tuesday in an industrial park 53 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: area North Hollywood off Vineland, right across the street from 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: East Valley High School. The mailman, I'm told by people 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: in the area, as a friendly guy known to everyone 56 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: in the area. On Tuesday, he's going about his business 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: a BMW who pulls up a guy gets out with 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: a gun. The mailman sees this starts running into Dave's 59 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: autobody looking for help. The manager of Dave's autobody sees 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: all this playing out outside his window and actually runs 61 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: into a closet. So the mailman runs into the building, 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: finds the manager hiding in the closet, asks for help. 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: At this point, the robber has caught up to the 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: mailman and now the manager. They're both inside the closet, 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: holds both of them up at gunpoint, demanding the mailman's 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: master key, nothing else. The owner of the business actually 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: gave me video footage of this. It's on my Twitter 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: at Blake Trolley. But anyways, we'll go to Bite one. 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: Here's the audio of that. 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 2: You can hear him there, just really honing in on 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: getting his hands on that key. People who work for 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: this body shop, I was speaking with them this morning. 73 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: They told me they're on edge because of this. They're 74 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: having a hard time getting to work. Owner Mark Depre says, 75 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: both guys responded a lot differently to this. If we 76 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: can go to Bite two. Have you spoken to the mailman, 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: how traumatized is he? And also your manager? 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: Surprising two different people, and obviously people are going to 79 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: handle things differently, and I believe until you have a 80 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: gun pointed at you, you don't know how you're going 81 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: to act or react. So coincidentally, the mailman back on 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 4: the job. Next day. My manager traumatized, went to see 83 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: a therapist yesterday. I've given him time off, you know, 84 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 4: take as much time as you need, you know, stuck 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 4: it out that day. It happened about ten o'clock in 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: the morning on Tuesday. Stuck it out that day, manned up, 87 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: so to speak, and took off about four and then 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 4: came in the next morning, you know, tried to shake 89 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: it off and couldn't. I could visibly see it in him. 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: So I sent him home and and I understand he 91 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: went and saw a therapist, and you know, he's trying 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: to work through it. 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: I just want Chris Little to know if I get 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: held up on the job, minimum. 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Six six weeks. 96 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: At six weeks, yeah minimum. 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,119 Speaker 1: Good at six weeks of therapy having to work with Chris. 98 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Actually that's true. Yeah, a gun in your face, I 99 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: think that's eight weeks. I don't know, like how the 100 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: whole mail system works, because they lose a lot on 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: my mail. How the master key, how do you know 102 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: where this works for everybody's apartment complex into all their mailboxes. 103 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: Apparently, so I'm told at least the master So I 104 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: think the other part of this story, and I'm trying 105 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: to get a hold of the Postal inspectors on this. 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: They haven't returned any of my inquiries on this. But 107 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: the same night the guys robbed this postal carrier, an 108 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: apartment building in Studio City was broken into with a 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: Postal service master key. The whole thing was caught on 110 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: surveillance video. Two guys are basically trick or treating for mail. 111 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: They're just loading it to go. 112 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if he stole the key in North Hollywood, 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: how did he know that these apartments in student the 114 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: key would fit and they'd be able to. 115 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: That's what I'm working to figure out. I mean, the 116 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: whole thing seems very organized, right. It seems like besides 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: exactly what they were doing. 118 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they'd have to know his route, and I 119 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: didn't know all those apartment boxes would have the same keyhole. 120 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: I didn't know that either. 121 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: But check this out, guys, And this is what I 122 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: mean by that fifty thousand dollars I'm guessing, isn't I, 123 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: you know, an attempt to get a discount on reversing this. 124 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: They're saying the master key, at least the master key 125 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: that opened up that apartment building and would also open 126 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: up all of those same boxes. And again I'm still 127 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: trying to figure that out too, exactly how that works. 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Apparently that master key has access to all of Studio City, 129 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: so I'm guessing the US Postal Service at this point 130 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: is realizing this is going to get really expensive. If 131 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: we've got to go out and change the locks for 132 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: all of Studio City. 133 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: Yikes, that's that's I'd be hundreds and hundreds yeah, of 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: I guess apartment mail boxes. 135 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: And it would be apartment mail boxes. There's homes in 136 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: Studio City. I believe that master key is is. It 137 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: probably opens a lot of gates. There's gated neighborhoods. I'm 138 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: sure that it gets into I mean, there's a lot 139 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: of things that a master key would work for I 140 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: would assume with a postal. 141 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how the concept of a master 142 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: key works. I don't know either. 143 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: All I know is that the manager of that apartment 144 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: building was saying this master key will open up pretty 145 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: much all of Studio City as far as mailboxes go. 146 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: So this guys really knew what they were doing. It 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: sounds like this whole thing was targeted. And again we're 148 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: trying to figure out more but just. 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: I must be postal workers. 150 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, even when I went to the even when I 151 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: went out to North Hollywood, at first I saw the 152 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: same report you did, so I thought it went down 153 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: in Studio City as well. But when I was actually 154 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: looking at where the robbery went down, it went down 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: in North Hollywood and pretty far up north in North Hollywood. 156 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: So the idea that they would take the key and 157 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: go straight down to Studio City and just start ransacking. 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, so. 159 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 2: They're looking for them, and I'm told by l EPD 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: it's it's specifically handled by that Postal Inspection Service. 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Video they've got video. 162 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: Of them, Yeah, down in Studio City robbing that, yeah, 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: robbing all the mailboxes. 164 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: All right, very good, thank you very much, Blake. Charlie 165 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Cafi News. Well, if you've ever gotten a luggage lock, 166 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, when you travel, you check luggage, there's one 167 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: kind you can get, so TSA can actually get into 168 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: your luggage if they have to. So it's kind of 169 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: a master key situation. No, No, I didn't know that. No, 170 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: I never had one. Because if they scan your luggage right, 171 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: and they decide there's something they need to look at 172 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: and you're not around how are they going to get in? 173 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: They could break in, but you don't want that. I 174 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: thought they'd blow it up, but they's like so they 175 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: have like a master key kind of thing to get 176 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: into sell these particular blocks. So I guess that's the idea, 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: sort of of a master key situation. All right, when 178 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: we retire, you have a chance to at money. That's right, 179 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars is up for a possible winnings by 180 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: you with the keyword contest. John and Ken caf I 181 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: AM six forty live everywhere iHeartRadio app. 182 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 183 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 184 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: All right, Well, big national story today and it's something 185 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: you don't see as much anymore as a serial killer 186 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: they believe was arrested a guy on Long Island, New York. 187 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: His name is Rex. I think it's pronounced horm Horreman 188 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: h Euer m a n N fifty nine year old 189 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: married architect. These killings, at least the main ones that 190 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: they have charged him with right now, were sex workers. 191 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: These women were found wrapped in burlap within days of 192 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: each other in late twenty ten, and they were left 193 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: like on a beach a beach called Gilgo Beach off 194 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: Long Island. They also think he's a possible suspect in 195 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: the death of six other people, including a male victim, 196 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: but for now he's been charged with the deaths related 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: to three of the women from over ten years ago. 198 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: And it says here in the story that they used 199 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: a DNA from a discarded pizza crust that they got 200 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: from I guess his trash back in January, and they 201 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: got a match to DNA from the hair one of 202 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: the victims, a woman by the name of Megan Waterman. 203 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: And I scrolled through the story and I said, well, 204 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: that's all you got. That doesn't seem like much, But 205 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: eventually you find out that this was an elaborate thing 206 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: he pulled off. This crazed man. He apparently used burner 207 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: phones to meet up with the women, and he scheduled 208 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: these sex meetings when his wife was out of town, 209 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: and later they believe he used one of the burner 210 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: phones to call one of the victim's relatives after her 211 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: death and taunt her. They also tracked some of his 212 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: use through the phones and other media where he was 213 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: following all of the work done on the case about 214 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: why hasn't the Long Island serial killer been caught? He 215 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: was looking up all sorts of stories. Did you email 216 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: addresses associated with the burner phone? He's looking up all 217 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: sorts of stories about the case. Well, did you see? 218 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: They went through his search records online and the searches 219 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: were sex workers, child pornography, sadistic torture related sex acts 220 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: such as earl begging for rape, porn, pretty girl with 221 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: bruised face, porn, tied up and raped porn. This is 222 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: the stuff he called up on the computer, and of 223 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: course Google complied immediately. He's the owner and founder of 224 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: a midtown Manhattan architecture firm, so he had a really 225 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: stable job, and he's a guy in his late fifties. 226 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: But they did a profile. The New York Times had 227 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: a profiler, and what he nailed it. He assumed that 228 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: it's probably somebody who's married, who has a very professional job, 229 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: has a very very secure life going probably doesn't live 230 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: far from where the bodies were found. All these things 231 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: turned out to be true if this is indeed the killer. 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: But really, the reason I picked the story kind of 233 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: the reason because John loves it. When you know, we 234 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: get quotes from the neighbors. Oh yeah, and sure one 235 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: of the neighbors was shocked. But they also talked to 236 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: at least one person that said it makes sense that 237 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: he's a serial killer. Someone who's known him professionally for 238 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: years told the New York Post their name's not in 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: the story, that he was weird and a big talker. 240 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: He always stood out. He was very personal. He would 241 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: always make a point to talk to everyone in the room. 242 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: He promised to make professional connections, but he would never 243 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: follow through. And it says here, yeah, he ran his 244 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: own architectural firm, and this guy met him about ten times. 245 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: Quote. 246 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: He was weird, always odd, he'd mosey around. We knew 247 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: there was something off about him. Oh, if you're paying attention, Uh, 248 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: if you know you're just slightly above average and intelligence, 249 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: you could pick up on these guys. Yeah. But here, 250 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: here's somebody who didn't pick up Barry Auslander, who lives 251 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: down the block. He seemed like a regular neighbor. I 252 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: never thought he was anything but a businessman, an average 253 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: guy who had a family and went to work. Okay, Barry, 254 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: good instinct there, good intuition. Uh yeah, Well, another source 255 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: said it's shocking it's terrifying. You never think you're going 256 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: to come in contact with a serial killer. I never 257 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: got the impression he was sleezy to women. Well, I 258 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: don't think you want to give off that vibe. But 259 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: if you don't do that stuff in public, in social 260 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: situations with friends and neighbors, that's your dark secret place. 261 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: Now you never should. In fact, you do the opposite. 262 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: You're overly friendly, you're or you're very quiet. You know, 263 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: you build you because you're The whole idea is you 264 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: want to get away with it. If you actually act 265 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: like a crazy person, then people are going to catch 266 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: on fairly quickly. As soon as somebody somebody gets murdered 267 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, Hey, it's probably that crazy person down 268 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: the block. But if it's the dullest guy or the 269 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: friendliest guy on the block, nobody's going to think of you. 270 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: No one's going to suspect. When you look at some 271 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: of the pile of evidence which was laid out, I 272 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: wonder why it took this long to catch up with them. 273 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: I guess with the DNA and then with collecting all 274 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: the information on his burner phones and his whereabouts and 275 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: stuff like that. That's just a I mean twenty ten, 276 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty three. It's like twel over twelve years 277 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: they took him. To actually arrest this guy, they found 278 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: his wife's dea a on three of the bodies, I know, 279 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: and something about a plastic water bottle yeah was also Yeah, 280 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: DNA testing on a water bottle from outside this guy's 281 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: home was determined to be a match to a sample 282 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: of women's hair found on tape used to tie up 283 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: two of the women, as well as a belt used 284 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: to also to bind another woman, to bind her feet. 285 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: So he was you know, he was connecting with prostitutes 286 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: online while his wife was out of town, right, And 287 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: more than that, he decided to strangle them to death. 288 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: By the way, it seems to be the motive, which 289 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: they always say is one of the most personal ways 290 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: to kill somebody. That and stabbing. That means you're really 291 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: into it, yes, so that you're really angry or motivated 292 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: to do it, right, Yeah, And it's and it's obsession. 293 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: He would he would do it once. I remember reading 294 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: about uh Sheryl killer once and the way it was 295 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: described is they get this, some of them get this, 296 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: this burning desire, this this tension. They're very stressed out, 297 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: they're very tense, and they become obsessed and they think 298 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: about the killing over and over and over again, and 299 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: then they finally do it. And then when they do it, 300 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: it's this enormous psychological relief and sometimes a sexual relief 301 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: for the killers who sexually as sought the victims. And 302 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: then they're happy for a while, and then it starts 303 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: building up inside again and it's like again, it spins 304 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: around in their head, spins around in their head, and 305 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: that's when they start to identify, Okay, who's going to 306 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: be next, and they plot it out and a cycle 307 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: that ever ends that you can't fix, which is why 308 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: you should kill them, all right. When we come back, 309 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: oh today, we have a pair of columns from the 310 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: El Segundo Times which are worth talking about. One is 311 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: from I think we named he a Rookie of the 312 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Year idiot at the Times a couple of years ago. 313 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: At she actually wrote about Centerpil fourteen, the one we've 314 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: been talking about all week, which is going to go 315 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: after the sex traffickers with harsher punishments, give a strike. 316 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: Of course, she had the opposite stance for that. When 317 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: we were turn. Another one was very excited that the 318 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: Manson killer, Leslie van Houton, has been paroled from prison. 319 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Boys worked with her. Yes, boy, this is like a 320 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: love letter to a Manson killer. About that? All right? 321 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Coming up, Johnny Ken k IF I AM six forty 322 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: Live everywhere iHeart Radio app. 323 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 324 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 325 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four and then 326 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: after four o'clock. You know what to do. You go 327 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: to the iHeart app, get the John and Ken on 328 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: demand podcast rolling okay, and then you can hear the 329 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: whole show twenty four to seven all weekend. Not miss 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: a thing again. That's available after four o'clock every day. 331 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: All right. Well, one of the other big stories this 332 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: week is that one of the Manson killers is out 333 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: of prison. This is Leslie van Houghton, who had been 334 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: up for parole many times before, blocked by Governor Newsom. 335 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: It was just a couple of years ago. Remember that 336 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: he did, he blocked one of her parole r Yeah, 337 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: why do you give up? This time he gave up? Well, 338 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: there was a court he would fight to the death, 339 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: and this time he was supposed to appeal this to 340 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. What's that? Yes he could, Yes, he 341 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: could appeal it to the state Supreme Court. He did not. 342 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: He just passed on that. But that is what happened, 343 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: all right, Well this is on him. Then he didn't 344 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: take it to the Supreme Court. So he's the one 345 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: who let Leslie Van Holton out. And by the way, 346 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: he's the one. Do you know how many do you 347 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: know how many? How long the terms are on the 348 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: parole board only three years. So he has appointed a 349 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: lot of these idiots to the parole board who are 350 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: letting out all these criminals, including Leslie van Houghton. And 351 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Leslie van Houghton of course, was involved in the vicious 352 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: murders of a couple who were killed in their home. 353 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: This would be the Lebiancas Los Angeles grocer by the 354 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: name of Leno or Leno Leabianca and his wife Rosemary 355 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: were stabbed viciously, and Van Houghton did do stab it. 356 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: She fourteen times, yeah, many times, fourteen times into Rosemary 357 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: LaBianca in the back, severed her spine, you know. And 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: I'm reading this to this idiotic column by something named 359 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: Angela Cardinal and I'm looking to see when is she 360 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: going to describe what Leslie van Houghton did before she 361 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: wrote this love letter to Leslie? And she doesn't. She 362 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: doesn't ever explain the fourteen stab wounds, the severing of 363 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: the spine. It was a frenzy. It was a maniacal 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: frenzy that Leslie van Houghton. It was in she was young. 365 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: Did you do this when you were seventeen? No? Any 366 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: of your friends? What did I know of I didn't either, 367 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: None of my friends. I had a few I thought 368 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: were capable, but I don't who followed through? Nobody? See 369 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: don't you think fifty three years is enough? 370 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 4: No? 371 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: No, she should have been She should have been executed. 372 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: But the Supreme Court got rid of the death penalty 373 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: for a time in the early seventies, and all the 374 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: California death penalty cases were thrown out the door. So 375 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, she slipped in there and ended up with 376 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: life in prison. That's why life in prison is a 377 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: terrible alternative to the death penalty, because eventually they all 378 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: get let out. Yeah, this columnist gave her a tongue 379 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: bath here. I worked with Leslie for close to ten years. 380 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure what to expect. When I met her, 381 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: she was wildly intelligent, kind, soft spoken, tiny. It's difficult 382 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: to reconcile the woman in front of me with the 383 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: crime she had committed. She's a master's degree in philosophy 384 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: and was revered by the women whom she tutored. Revered. 385 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,479 Speaker 1: You had prison graduations. Others cheered her work. Is this 386 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: an insane asylum? At the prison? Fourteen stab wounds? You 387 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: said people can't be changed. They're trying to say she's changed. 388 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: She's a great person. Now she can't. She's not a 389 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: great person. Her lawyer says that she he's got job offers. 390 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: Who's gonna hire a Manson family member? I want to know. 391 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going in there. What's she gonna do? Isn't 392 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: that hard to get people? My secretary, Leslie Van Houghton, Yeah, 393 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: well I know that name from God. We can't find 394 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: any applicants. What are the Manson family members doing these days? 395 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: He said that she's got some computer skills, she's got 396 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: a master's degree, she's got job offers, she's bright, she's 397 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: got support from family and friends. She's going to do 398 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: just fine. As her lawyer, what job offers she hasn't 399 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: been asked, rich Fifer, but that's what he told people. Match. Yeah, 400 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: she probably probably made that up. There's a lot of 401 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: job offers. Ris. Leslie even comforted this columnist during a 402 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: difficult time. We'd been born again speaking with the incarcerated 403 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: women about our personal lives. But as she and I 404 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: sat discussing lesson plans in a prison classroom, it became 405 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: difficult me to hide my feelings about my impending divorce. 406 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: Oh god, Gez confided in a murderer about her divorce, 407 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: and she she was comforted. She why did her husband leave? Hmm? 408 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: This is the column mister Angela cardinally, who was a 409 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: teacher and writer. It says, I'm talking to Leslie van 410 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Houghton about you, honey. I'm telling Leslie van Houghton what 411 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: you're like at home. Who's Leslie van Houghten Manson family 412 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: member slaughtered? Slaughtered the La Bianca family. Oh yeah sure. 413 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: Before I could cry, she told me she'd been married 414 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: once too briefly, and made a joke about it. We laughed. 415 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: I was grateful for the moment of connection. Boy, this, 416 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: this this woman is utterly friendless, isn't she. Well, you 417 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean, everybody goes through relationship issues and 418 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: marriages and stuff, but imagine the only person you can 419 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: confide in is Leslie Van Houghton, star murderer in the 420 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Manson family. In fact, I think she killed Manson, didn't 421 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: kill anybody on that spring. It was all her, always 422 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: uh right, all of his minions right, and carried out 423 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: the killings. So here you have somebody who actually physically 424 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: killed more people than Charles Manson, and that's who this 425 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: lady's confiding into about her busted up marriage. Wow, nothing 426 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: wrong there, says here. Oh. Yeah, she apparently was fearful 427 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: of visits from her young nephew that he came and 428 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: they would play tag because she was afraid he was 429 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna ask what she was in for. Yeah, why don't 430 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: you google it? I was part of the Manson family murders. 431 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: See every So everybody plays pretend that she didn't viciously 432 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: kill somebody, and I can't, and I know I keep 433 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: repeating this, but this wasn't like, uh, you know, two 434 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: people got into an argument, a fight, right, and somebody 435 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: in a heated moment pulled out a knife, right, Or 436 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: she wasn't under attack. She and that group went out 437 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: of their way, driving miles and miles from their sicko 438 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: ranch up in the valley, and they picked I forgot 439 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: why they picked the Lobbianca Leto house, but they did, 440 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: and they barge in there, and this poor one, Rosemary 441 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: LaBianca was eventually knife fourteen times by this woman, Leslie 442 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Van Houghton. And can you believe the La Times. Nobody 443 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: at the La Times says, oh my god, this is revolting, 444 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: This is disgusting. Oh no, Angela now wonders how the 445 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: outside world will unfold for her. I wonder if she'll 446 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: achieve her dream of continuing to teach. I wonder what 447 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: her relationship with her family will be. I wonder if 448 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: I'll ever see her again. I hope. So. Oh this 449 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: isn't this is insane. There's another word to describe it. 450 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: Throw this lady in jail. Yes, she ought to be 451 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: chie you. Yes, she ought to be dragged away in 452 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: a net and medicated and locked up. Anthony D. Maria 453 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: is the nephew of another Manson murder victim, was a 454 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: hairstylist by the name of Jay Seabring. Now Leslie Van 455 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: Houghton wasn't there for his murders. But he had a 456 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: good quote. He said, Leslie van Houghton has always kind 457 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: of propped herself up as a Manson follower, but she's anything. 458 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: But she's a cold blooded killer and one of the 459 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: most notorious murder rampages in US history. And he got 460 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: it right. She's a psychotic. She's an absolute cold psychotic. 461 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: For a time, because this story has been around so long, 462 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: I thought she was not a stamber. I didn't until 463 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: I started to read more about the history of now 464 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: because it's fifty uh, it's fifty four years now, seventeen 465 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: sixty nine. You know, there's a lot of people obviously, 466 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: a lot of people weren't even born, and the people 467 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: who are around can barely remember the details of who 468 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: stabbed what when. But no, she was. She was one 469 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: of the most vicious killers of them all. And this 470 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: Angela Cardnell says, Leslie committed a horrific crime that I 471 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: don't excuse. I don't excuse. That's as harsh as she's 472 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: gonna come down on Leslie. But I also believe we're 473 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: all capable of more than most of us are willing 474 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: to admit. See, you could be killing people. Leslie is 475 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: a good person who did a bad thing. Leslie is 476 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: a good person who did a bad thing. It's described 477 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: as a bad thing stabbing somebody fourteen times. That husband 478 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: is lucky he got out of there. Boy, did we 479 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: got more coming up? John and Ken kf I am 480 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: sixty forty. 481 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 482 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 483 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: I just got two emails now and a text. Wow, 484 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: and it's both warning me that it's going to be 485 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: hot out and I click through to the actual warning 486 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: and it says here that I can keep cool by 487 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: identifying and resting in shade. Well, if you need help 488 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: with that, you have to identify the shade. You have 489 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: walked down the street and it say, ah, I see 490 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: shade over there. I will go lie down in the shade. 491 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: Who are these coming from? This is coming from the 492 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: LA government, LA city or county. It's called I don't know, 493 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: notify LA. It's the City of the county, another one 494 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: of those heat offices they created, like the climate emergencies 495 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So this is what they do 496 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: all day. They see press releases, Define shade. I got 497 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: three of these notifications already, So identify and rest in 498 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: shade or a building with air conditioning. Okay, and drink 499 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: plenty of water. Hydration is key. Don't leave your kids 500 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: or your pets in a hot car. Oh good, one, 501 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: let me see is that here? I don't know. I 502 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: think they missed something. I skipped the pets people first, Deborah, 503 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: Well I did. I said kids and pets. Yeah, well, 504 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't see that in the official government warning. Oh 505 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: here we go. It took a while to get to 506 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: young children and pets should never be left unattended. Very good, Debora, 507 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: you're right on top of that. Check on neighbors who 508 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: may be sensitive to heat. Yes, I'll tell you what. 509 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Let's been the rest of the show, reading the names 510 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: of all one hundred and forty seven cooling centers in 511 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Camp Well, you know you can go to 512 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: a public school, public swimming. We open a box here. 513 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: What is she doing? She's doing her public service and 514 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: now she is She was like, I'm in the news room, 515 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: and therefore I should help out with the information. I'm 516 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: gonna be helpful. You can jump in a local pool. 517 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: Go jump in a local pool. You know that expression. 518 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: What happens in Vegas days in Vegas They were using 519 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: that for a while in a campaign for promoting the city, 520 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of people go there for events like 521 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: bachelor parties. This is the second story this hour involving 522 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: a Long Island man, which is where I'm from. By 523 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: the way, The first one was a hero killed her. 524 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: This one isn't. But this one's gonna be tough for 525 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: this poor guy to live down. His name is Brian Danzelik, 526 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: thirty five years old, and he went to Vegas for 527 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: a bachelor party and by the time the night was over, 528 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: he was dancing naked on top of a poker table 529 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: at Harrow's Casino. He was gyrating his stuff. Oh, they 530 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: had a tough time grabbing him the security because you know, 531 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: people are naked a little slippery. Plus you never gonna 532 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: watch My grandpa to his wife back home pregnant, told 533 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: the New York Post another prize. Well, we are certain 534 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: someone what's the old expression, slipped them a mickey. They 535 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: were quite certain because he was outside one of the 536 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: casino bars and they were. According to a friend, they 537 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: were talking about this sounds completely opposite homeowner's insurance. And 538 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: then somebody inside brought us around the drinks and he 539 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: was handed a drink, and shortly after that he said, 540 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel right. I don't feel too well. Well, 541 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: was he the only one who had his drink spiked? 542 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: It seems like it. Before you know it, he ran off. 543 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: Then he took off all his clothes. He climbed atop 544 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: a poker table, flaunted his genitals to everybody, exposing his 545 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: penis and testicles while people whipped out their phones. Oh, 546 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: security was called, but the rest of the folks, some 547 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: were laughing, some were aghast. Did you read the other 548 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: thing he did? As security went towards him, he exposed 549 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: his anus to all who passed on the main floor. Hmm, 550 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: not just his rear end. Yeah, like I said, Wow, 551 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: what happens? And apparently, oh no, he punched a one 552 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: legged man at the bird bar at the Flamingo Hotel. Well, 553 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: if he was really under the influence of some hallucinogenic jrug, 554 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they could prove that. Did he take a 555 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: blood test? So they can help him here? And if 556 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: that's what happened, I mean, then he has to well 557 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: I he has to prove, but he has to not 558 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: that he make sure he didn't take it himself. Listen 559 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: to the pregnant wife. I was struck by saying that 560 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: we are good people. Yeah, and Leslie van Houghton's a 561 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: good person too. Uh. My husband he's a killer. He's 562 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: a guy who just went on a bender. But everybody 563 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: does that now, everybody goes nuts at bachelor parties. I 564 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: still do that. I'm a good person. Leslie's a good person. 565 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: My husband, it's a good person, all right. So nug Yeah, 566 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: he knocked the guy off his wooden leg. What that 567 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: was about? But this went on for a long time 568 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: because they just couldn't grab him. He kept running away. 569 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: I wonder what the hallucinogenic drug is though. It makes 570 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: you and we've had this problem before. I remember we 571 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: had a bunch of stories where people got took off 572 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: all their clothes and ran around crazy. I don't know, 573 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: I've never said that. He started getting all paranoid and 574 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: ran off. They're trying to calm him down, but he 575 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: was getting worse and worse. This drug just took off 576 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: and he took off running. Michelle the wife says he 577 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: would never act in such a way. He is the victim. 578 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: The person who shows to drug my husband is the 579 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: true criminal and is to blame for such behavior. Well, 580 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: if they can prove that right, he's got to come 581 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: back for court. That's a good wife. Though next month 582 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot of wives wouldn't buy this. She's stand, well, 583 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you're pregnant and you note that your 584 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: husband's going to a bachelor party in Vegas, you gotta 585 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: believe it's probably gonna get a little crazy. 586 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: Is it's so out of character? 587 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? But now, I mean, this is so sad because 588 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: this is permanently recording by all these folks with their self. 589 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: Why don't really jumping up on the table. He's knocking 590 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: security out of the way, and he's knocking all the 591 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: cards off the table. And see, mins really don't know 592 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: what the character is of the single version of their husband. 593 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: Oh so you've done stuff like this, then your wife 594 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: doesn't know about it. There's probably stuff by stories that 595 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell my wife from when I was single, 596 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: like this, not like this, But this could be because 597 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: of the hallucinogenic drug. I could think of one that 598 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: would be fairly entertaining, though that I don't take. She 599 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: ought to heart time. You don't, No, there's there's a 600 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: single version of a guy. And then there's married version, 601 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: and once you rain everything in for the marriage, the 602 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: wife has a certain understanding of your your character and 603 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: your personality and doesn't know that you might have been 604 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: out of your mind when you were twenty two. Wow, Hey, 605 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: Sewy your wild oats bo there's lots of oats, a 606 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: lot of oats there, all right, We got more coming up. 607 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: Johnny Ken, CAFI AM six forty We're live everywhere the 608 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. You've got no stories, No, not really, maybe 609 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: a few, just a slow, boring life, huh, never know. 610 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: Devor Mark Ladden, the twenty four Hour Cafe Newsroom. Hey, 611 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. You 612 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: can always hear us live on CAFI AM six forty 613 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 614 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.