1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: Hearing this action in the market this morning follows a 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: big reversal in markets yesterday. After gaining almost two percent 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 3: earlier in the session, the S and P five hundred 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: closed down eight tenths of one percent. The rapid slide 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: followed a week forty two billion dollars sale of treasuries. Chadovi, 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: a director of investment management and Huntingdon Private Bank, says 10 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 3: now is the time to put your money to work. 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: We've been telling our clients not to be overcashed. Right. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 4: The one thing that we know for certain is that 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 4: as interest rates start to go lower, whether that's because 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: of market activity or FED activity, cashields are going lower. 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: So if you have cash, b dollar cost averaging and 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 4: look to those markets where you can get in on 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: some of those dips, be a long term investor. 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: Huntington Private Banks. Chadovi It says stocks also came under 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: pressure yes esterday because seventeen blue chip companies offered almost 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: thirty two billion dollars of debt. That's the highest amount 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: of US investment great issuance this. 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Year, well Nathan, three quarters of the global carry trade 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: has now been unwound. That's according to JP Morgan's quant strategists, 24 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: who say the week's volatility has wiped out year to 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: date returns and cut into the past two years of profits. 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: Mark Cranfield from Our Market's Live team says the Japanese market, 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: one of the homes of the carry trade, is still 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: not stable. 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 5: It's a bit dysfunctional market you're seeing in Japan, and 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 5: that's not too surprising when you consider the extreme volatility 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 5: you've seen in the past week. It's really a market 32 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 5: currently of headless chickens. People are just chasing everything, every headline, 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 5: every nuance. So in terms of expecting volatility to die down, unlikely. 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 5: We're going to have plenty of it, and we've got 35 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 5: US elections coming as well. People are just going to 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 5: get used to it. 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Mark Cranfield says the carry strategy involves borrowing at 38 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: low rates to fund purchases and higher bilding assets elsewhere. 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: We care in the odds of a recession in the 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: US are increasing. That's according to JP Morgan Chase, the 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: firm now sees a thirty five percent chance that the 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: economy tips into recession by the end of this year. 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: That's up from twenty five percent as of the start 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: of last month. Still, economist Duriel Rabini says the market 45 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: may be getting ahead of itself on expecting aggressive rate 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: cuts from the FED. He says the central bank is 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: right to signal a soft landing. 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 6: The markets are often wrong about what's going on with 49 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 6: the economy and what the FED is going to be doing. 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 6: There is some significant, i to say, evidence of some 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 6: slow down of the economy, but I don't think the 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 6: data suggests that we're going to have a hard landing 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 6: anytime soon. If anything, actually there's some elements of strength 54 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 6: in the economy. 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: Duriel Rabini is known as Doctor Doom for predicting the 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight global financial crisis. 57 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, there are several stocks in the move this morning. 58 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: We'll start with shares a Bumble. They're down more than 59 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: thirty five percent. The dating app company is slashing its 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: annual revenue outlook, and we get the numbers from Bloomberg's 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett. 62 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 7: Bumble says annual revenue will grow between one and two 63 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 7: percent from the previous year. The company had previously forecast 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 7: growth of between eight and eleven percent. Wall Street was 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 7: expecting an eight point four percent gain, according to Bloomberg 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 7: compiled estimates. The company's third quarter forecast and second quarter 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 7: results also broadly missed the mark. Bumble, which went public 68 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty one, sawt shares hit a record low 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 7: in February after it shared a weaker than expected sales 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 7: outlook and cut around a third of its workforce in 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 7: New York. 72 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Radio, all right, Charlie, thanks and shares 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: of Warner Brothers Discovery, You're down nearly twelve percent. The 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: parent of CNN and the TNT cable network posted a 75 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: second quarter charge of more than nine billion dollars after 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: writing down the value of those traditional TV networks. The 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,119 Speaker 3: company was created in twenty twenty two when Discovery acquired WarnerMedia. 78 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: It has concluded the cable channels are no longer worth 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: what they were when that forty two billion dollar merger 80 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: was completed. 81 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: Well Nathan investor Kathy Wood is trying to take advantage 82 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: of the recent stock markets sell off. She scooped up 83 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: shares of tech firms, just as our flagship fund is 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: synk to a new twenty twenty four low Woods Arc 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: Innovation ETF bought Amazon Advanced micro Devices and Roku, a 86 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 1: fintech focused fund of her firm. Arc Investment Management also 87 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: added Reddit and meta platforms. 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 3: Let's turn to the latest in the presidential race, Karen. 89 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: It is now a sprint through the key battleground states 90 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: for Vice President Kamala Harris and her new running mate, 91 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 3: Minnesota Governor Tim Waltz. 92 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 8: Donald Trump he sees the world differently than we see it. 93 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 8: He has no understanding of service because he's too busy 94 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 8: servicing himself. 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: Governor Waltz spoke there in Detroit, Michigan, as his opponent 96 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: for the vice president's Ohio Senator jd Vance tailed the Democrats. 97 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: He spoke with reporters by her plane of Harris's plane 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: Air Force two, near oh Claire, Wisconsin. 99 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 7: We think it's. 100 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 9: Important to get out there to talk to people, to 101 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 9: make the best case. 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 10: That we can. 103 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 9: And obviously there's an element of especially local media is 104 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 9: going to cover her because she's a vice president and 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 9: a presumptive dominie. So we think it's important to have 106 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 9: a counter narrative here and importantly to drive home this 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 9: point that she has been a dangerous radical. 108 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: And after JD Vance's appearance on the Harris Waltz trail, 109 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: a Harris campaign spokeswoman posted on x this is getting weird. 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: And Nathan asks his vice president campaigns through the key 111 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: battleground states. President Biden says he is not confident there'll 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 1: be a peaceful transition of power if former President Trump 113 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: loses in November. 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 11: He means what he says, we don't take them seriously. 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: He means it to look what they're trying to do 116 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: now in the local election districts where people count the 117 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: votes elected, putting people in place in states that they're 118 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: going to count the votes. 119 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 9: Right. 120 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: You can't love your country only when you win. 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: President Biden spoke to CBS News in his first interview 122 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: since he ended his reelection bid last month. The full 123 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: interview will air on CBS Sunday Morning, which can be 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: heard on Bloomberg Radio in New York, Washington, DC, and 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Boston is Sundays at ten am. 126 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: Andy Karen Delta Airlines has been hit by a class 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: action lawsuit. The airline is accused of failing to properly 128 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: refund flyers or provide them with meals, hotels, or transportation 129 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: vouchers after crowds strike software outage last month caused widespread 130 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: delays and cancelations. 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: But it's time now for a look at some of 132 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: the other stories making news in New York and around 133 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 134 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 12: John, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. Tropical Storm Debbi has 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 12: made a second landfall in South Carolina on its way 136 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 12: up the East Coast, where residents as far north as 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 12: Vermont could gainst several inches of rain this weekend. Bloomberg 138 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 12: meteoramalogist Rob Carrolyn is tracking the storm. 139 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 13: John. 140 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 14: The circulation associated with what's left of Debbie continues to 141 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 14: produce very heavy rain over portions of the Carolinas, and 142 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 14: this will be spreading into Virginia today. We're looking at 143 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 14: numerous flash flood watches and some warnings from northeastern South 144 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 14: Carolina across North Carolina, then up along the Appalachians all 145 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 14: the way to central New York. 146 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 12: Debby came as shore early this morning near Bulls Bay, 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 12: South Carolina. Taylor Swift's aeros tour has been canceled in Austria, 148 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 12: and officials announced the irrative two men they accused of 149 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 12: plotting a terror attack. Authority say, a nineteen year old 150 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 12: Austrian citizen who had recently plunged allegiance to the Islamic state, 151 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 12: focused on the Aras tour as a potential target. Nearly 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 12: two hundred thousand people had been expended to attend the 153 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 12: Vienna concerts, which were to start today. Bad news if 154 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 12: you're looking for a deal on an apartment. The Manhattan 155 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 12: rental market still sky high. More from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 10: The average rental price in Manhattan one forty six dollars 157 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 10: a month in July. The average rental price did fall 158 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 10: from a year ago, but that's just because these size 159 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 10: of the average apartment being rented fell. And forget about 160 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 10: signing incentives. In Manhattan, deals offered by landlords plunged, and 161 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 10: some lieutenants paid up above the list price. And if 162 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 10: you were hoping to get a better deal in Brooklyn 163 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 10: or Queen's, forget about it. The price per square foot 164 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 10: of apartments in those places also rose. Denise Pellgritty, Bloomberg Radio. 165 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 12: RAN's president telling his French counterpart, Emmanuel met Crown, the 166 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 12: US and Europe must urge Israel to accept a truce 167 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 12: in Gaza to reduce tensions in the Middle East. The 168 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 12: comments hints at a diplomatic path at de escalation as 169 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 12: Israel braces for retaliation after the killing of a top 170 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 12: Hamas leader in Tehran. Global News twenty four hours a 171 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 12: day and whatever you wanted with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm 172 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 12: John Tucker, and this is Bloomberg Nathan and Karen. 173 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you. It's time now for the 174 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sports Update. But John stash Hour, John, good. 175 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 13: Morning, Good morning, Karen. Is the Olympics start to wind down. 176 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 13: Big day in Paris the two hundred meters with American 177 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 13: Noah Lyles. He already won the one hundred and that 178 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 13: thrilling finish. This is considered his stronger event. And the 179 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 13: men's basketball semifinals as the US taking on Nicolo Jokich 180 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 13: and Serbia. US beat the Serbs in an exhibition game 181 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 13: and in group play, and both wins were by twenty 182 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 13: six points. US women into the Semis. Win over Nigeria 183 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 13: makes it fifty nine Olympic wins in a row. They'll 184 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 13: play Australia tomorrow. Quincy Hall's come from behind gold medal 185 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 13: in the four hundred meters the third time an American 186 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 13: runner has won gold with a rally at the end. 187 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 13: Lyles did it, so did Cole Hawker the fifteen hundred meters. 188 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 13: Hall was in fourth place around the last band. It's 189 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 13: the first US gold in the four hundred since two 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 13: thousand and eight. In Denver, Mets and Rockies tied to two, 191 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 13: nine to eight. 192 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: First pitch fly to left field, fasehead fil Indor Fader scores. 193 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: Here comes gabble around third, he will scored. 194 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 7: The throw is cut off at third. 195 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: Francisco Lindor with the basis loaded, drives in two. 196 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 12: It is four to two Mets. 197 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 13: In the top of the night on WCBS, Mets won 198 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 13: five to three, another strong start for the New met 199 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 13: Paul Blackburn his second in row and the Mets only 200 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 13: half game behind Atlanta for second. In the NLS, Yankees 201 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 13: and Orioles again tied for first. Yanks split two at 202 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 13: the Angels at the Stadium. They won five to two 203 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 13: behind Luis Heally got his twelfth win. The Angels then 204 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 13: won eight to two with a six run second in 205 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 13: off Yankee rookie will Warren Baltimore one, seven to three 206 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 13: in Toronto. Red Sox lost eight to four at Kansas City. 207 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 13: The Giants won seven to four in Washington. The Football 208 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 13: Giants host the Lions tonight in the preseason open to 209 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 13: the two teams had two fight filled joint practices. The 210 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 13: NFL find both teams two hundred thousand dollars for raffiellen 211 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 13: allenounced he won't play the US Open next month. He 212 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 13: will play the Labor Cup. That might be the last 213 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 13: event of his career. John Stashedwar Bloomberg Sports can. 214 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 11: Navan coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 215 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 11: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 216 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 11: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 217 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager on another morning of volatility 218 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: in the global market as the debate over central bank 219 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: policy decisions around the world feeds into investor anxiety. Joining 220 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: us now from London is Bloomberg Stocks reporter Joe Easton 221 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: and a job between the worries about whether the Feds 222 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 3: waited too long to cut and the unwind in the 223 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: carry trades after the Bank of Japan's surprise hike, Where 224 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: do things sid now? Good morning, Yeah, morning, Nathan. 225 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 15: So, I mean the thing I've been waiting to see 226 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 15: is a rebound in stocksvill we're just not really seeing 227 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 15: that at all. We're seeing yesterday in the US we 228 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 15: saw a bit of a gain at the open, then 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 15: a decline faded away. In Europe every morning we seem 230 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 15: to be opening very slightly higher and then giving up 231 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 15: the games. The market really not willing to bet on 232 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 15: a rebound as such. Stocks pretty much down around five 233 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 15: percent over the past week, both in Europe and the US, 234 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 15: and we're just not seeing investors to buy it back in. 235 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 15: Maybe they're going to wait for a bit more date. Obviously, 236 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 15: later we get the US jobless claims. That could be 237 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 15: important in terms of the numbers, but we really need 238 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 15: some kind of trigger for markets to actually turn, and 239 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 15: we're not just seeing that at the moment. 240 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: Well, where you sit in Europe, we're continuing to see 241 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: some pretty deep selling. What's driving that? 242 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 15: Yeah, So I think earnings have been largely negative here 243 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 15: In terms of the large cap companies today, we had 244 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 15: some big names like Semens. We also had a bunch 245 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 15: of insurers kind of just being a bit slow in 246 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 15: terms of where they growth. Our semens was talking about 247 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 15: customers cutting back on orders, being slow to put new 248 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 15: orders in. That had to kind of read across the 249 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 15: entire European industrial space. The bank numbers haven't been particularly strongviously, 250 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 15: interest rates fading coming down will be negative for them, 251 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 15: So we're just seeing just a bit of negativity. But 252 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 15: you've got to also bear in mind that volumes are lower. 253 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 15: Of course, a lot of people on holiday, a lot 254 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 15: of the traders I chat to all of them red 255 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 15: dotted on the terminal today where they're just out. So 256 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 15: the liquidity in the volume in the market is low, 257 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 15: and therefore disappointment on things like earnings and data is 258 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 15: just causing a bit more selling in these markets. 259 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: Now. 260 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: In terms of what's driving the broader market, a lot 261 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: of it's been driven by the global unwind in the 262 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 3: carry trade. After the Bank of Japan's move, the folks 263 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: over at JP Morgan Chaser saying now they think it's 264 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: about seventy five percent done. Could we expect some of 265 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: this volatility to subside once this carry trade unwind fully 266 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: shakes out? 267 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 15: Yeah, I did see the JP Morgan update. That was 268 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 15: pretty interesting to say, given a lot of that trade 269 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 15: potentially has now been closed out. Kind of depends on 270 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 15: how much losses were booked there and how much leeway 271 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 15: people have to buy back into other trades in terms 272 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 15: of buying back into stocks, whether they'll just have to 273 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 15: kind of hold their positions there that might kind of 274 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 15: be wrapped up. So I don't think that will be 275 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 15: the main trigger. I think we'll need to see data. Interestingly, 276 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 15: the US numbers next week will get US inflation, but 277 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 15: that's kind of taken a kind of second step in 278 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 15: terms of the importance. Now the market more focused on 279 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 15: growth will get some SMP indexes in terms of the 280 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 15: survey numbers next week, the ISM numbers as well later 281 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 15: in the beginning of next month, So those are kind 282 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 15: of the key dases that we'll wait for. I don't 283 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 15: really think the Japan issue is going to be key. 284 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 15: It's more going to be about whether US economic growth 285 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 15: continues to slow, whether the Fed's taken too long to 286 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 15: lower rates, as you say, and also the earning story. 287 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 15: Will markets continue to reward companies for doing well or 288 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 15: are they too concerned about economic growth. That's the bigger 289 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 15: issue for me. 290 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 11: Yeah. 291 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: And to your point about the data dependence in between 292 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: all those data points you mentioned, is the jobless claims 293 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: coming out this morning after all that betting about whether 294 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: the Fed's behind the curve after last week's disappointing jobs report. 295 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: I mean, what kind of volatility could we see just 296 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: from this next upcoming data point. 297 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm excited to see that that will be coming up, 298 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 15: as you say, at one thirty my time, eight thirty 299 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 15: your time, So in one hundred and eighty seven thousand, 300 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 15: I think was the call for continuing claims. We'll see 301 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 15: whether that actually lands. I think that given the sensitive 302 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 15: that you mentioned there, it could be a key data point. 303 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 15: I mean, US futures pretty much lower on the SMP 304 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 15: at the moment. Maybe people are going to position ahead 305 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 15: of that, just wait to see what that number looks like. 306 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 15: If it's a decent number, maybe we see a bit 307 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 15: of a rebound. You would expect that to be the case, 308 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 15: but at the moment, maybe people waiting for those jobless 309 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 15: claims numbers. Definitely going to keep me glued to my 310 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 15: screen later this afternoon. 311 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: And in terms of where we sit now on rate 312 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: cut betting, are we still thinking that there could be 313 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: a possibility of an emergency rate cut. Are we still 314 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: betting on aggressive moves from the Fed? Cut about thirty 315 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: seconds lab. 316 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,359 Speaker 15: Yeah, No, I think For me, I think traders unfortunately 317 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 15: tend to overplay how much the Federal Reserve and other 318 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 15: economists that do actually look at financial markets. They're more 319 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 15: interested in economic data. 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