1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show. The Doug Moron Show. 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and J. P. Shadrick discussed the 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: latest Jaguars news with the head coach. The Doug Moron 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Show starts right now. Welcome to The Doug Maron Show. 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: JP Shatrick from the home studio. Jeff Loghuman from his 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: home studio, and head coach Doug Brons should join us 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: around five twenty or so, about twenty minutes from right now. 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Training camp continues the ramp up period now in the 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: face two logs, so a lot of running around on 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: the practice field. They're in helmets, no pads, no eleven 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: on eleven, work their offense on one field, defense on another. 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: And I'm curious to ask Doug Moron a little bit 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: later about that set up so far and how it's going. 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: But there is actual football like things happening finally, Yeah, 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward to this football team putting 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: on pads to where then the real learning starts. You know, 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: we we heard from j Gruden this week and he 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: talked about how the offense was still in diapers. Well, 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's where you're at when you haven't even 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: put pads on, and you haven't even gone against a 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: defense even without pads, you know. So they got a 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: long way to go as a football team. And that's 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: just part of the way the new normal is with 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: the global pandemic. And so far, so good, and and 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. And I think they're 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: possibly gonna learn a lot of things that they may 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: carry into future years. And if I was a player, 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: one of those things that I would love to see 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: carry in the future years is no preseason games, man, 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: no preseason games. Yeah, I'm curious if we'll even get 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: any back. Well, you know, I think that the situation 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: is very fluid jp uh. And it's gonna be interesting 33 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: too to see how every coach in the National Football 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: League tries to adapt what they feel like their team 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: needs to get ready for an opener. You know, a 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: lot of guys have experience of having been a college coach, 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: like a Doug Marrone. Some guys have come up through 38 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: the ranks in college and learned how to be a 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: college coach and then before coming to the National Football League. 40 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: So will they carry some of the principles with them 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: that they've learned in college to the NFL this year. 42 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Will team scrimmage? I know there's talk that one football 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: teams talking about having three inter squad scrimmages prior to 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the season opener. Will Doug Brown do that? Well? Can 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: you do that? You know? Are you healthy enough? You know, 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: are you young enough? I mean, there's a lot of 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: factors that are going to go into that decision making 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: process on getting the team ready in a year that 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: there's nothing normal about. But it's gonna be fun to watch, 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: that's for sure. But I'm looking forward to the diapers 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: coming off and the jersey is going on. Yeah, that's 52 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the That's the talk of this football team right now. 53 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: It's not just on the offensive side, it's it's everywhere. 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: The youth of the team and so many rookies around. 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: But you know, it's not just those guys that are new. 56 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: It's the free agents and all these new faces coming 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: in and even this week all the changes on the 58 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: defensive line after some guys went down to injury or 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: put on the on the reserve list. So you know, 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the change is huge for this football team, not just 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: with the rookies, but throughout the entire roster. There's so 62 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: much turnover around here. Well and then uh today Doug 63 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Rone talked about Quincy Williams having a core muscle injury. 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: So now you add another you know, and he's not 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: projected to be a starting linebacker, but you're talking about 66 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: a young man who showed some really positive things last 67 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: year as far as being a striker, being quick and fast, 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: and it would be I think a valuable backup and 69 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: a specially with his speed and his demeanor when he arrives, 70 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I think he would be one of the core nasty 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: special teams players. Well, now he's hurt, so the defensive 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: line has obviously been struck significantly, and it's going to 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: take some time over the next couple of days where 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: these veteran guys that were acquired to where once they 75 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: get through the testing protocols where they're available for the 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: team to practice. But hopefully by the time that this 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: team gets the pads and a week or so, you know, 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: hopefully we have some word on where they are. With 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: Ronnie Gunner, you know, with this non football illness that 80 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: he has, what's the status of that, you know, where's 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: he at, what's his expected return? You know, because he 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: was I mean, if you look at it from a 83 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: monetary standpoint, JP Showbert and Ronnie Gunner were the two 84 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: top defensive free agent acquisitions, because look how they feel 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: about somebody typically translating the amount of dollars that they 86 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: pay them, and they obviously felt very good about these 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: two guys. The certainly did, and there'll be a big 88 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: piece of this team. But one of them is not 89 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: available right now in Gunter. And you know, it just 90 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of adds to the list of changes on the 91 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: defensive line that have happened over the last couple of 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: years around here, but this is certainly the most dramatic 93 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: of them all. Hey, let's let's come back in a moment. 94 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: We'll get a little change in schedule this week. Doug 95 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Brown scheduled for five twenty today, so we'll come back 96 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: in a moment. We'll get into this defensive line talk 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more and examine some of those changes 98 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: over the last week or so. 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We're in 142 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: phase two of preseason. I guess you can call it 143 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: training camp, the ramp up period, so helmets, notepads yet, 144 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: Offense and defense on separate fields so far. And I'm 145 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: out there on the practice field yesterday Logs. We touched 146 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: on defensive line. And if you look on the Jaguars roster, 147 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: there are fourteen defensive linemen. Some of those guys are 148 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: edge players, if you will, but they are listed as 149 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: defensive linemen. Um. I look up at one point and 150 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: there are only seven defensive linemen in the D line drills. 151 00:08:51,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: That's a lot of turnover. Talking about what was the 152 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: strength of this football team for the last couple of years, 153 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden now has created more question marks 154 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: maybe than any other position group that you have. You 155 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: have some guys that you feel really good about, though, 156 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: in that in that room obviously with Josh Allen, Caleb 157 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: and chays On, you obviously feel good about first round pick. 158 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: But you're talking about a prospect and you don't have 159 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: any history, you don't have anything proven to you that 160 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: that he can be a good football player. You've got 161 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: to hold out in gock Way, You've got a former 162 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: first round pick, and you still have a lot of 163 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: questions about in Tavin Bryant. So you had two guys 164 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: that opted out because of COVID night team, which is 165 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: totally understandable and respect their decision, but these are decisions 166 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: that have impacted this football team. And and Doug Brown 167 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: was not bashful about it when he talked about in 168 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: his press conference and he said, you know, he basically 169 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: paraphrase and here said, I'd be stupid to tell you 170 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,239 Speaker 1: that I'm not concerned about it, because this cause for concerns. 171 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: So the Jaguars did what they thought was the best 172 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: thing that they could do, and to go out and 173 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: sign a couple of veteran guys. And now they're in 174 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: the process of getting through their COVID testing before they're 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: allowed to be assimilated into the locker room in the program. So, uh, 176 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: what can they do? The reality is they're not as 177 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: good as the ones that you've lost, you know, because 178 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: otherwise you would have signed them instead of the other 179 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: guys that you've lost, you know, back when you could 180 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: have signed them back in the springtime or whatever. So 181 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: uh significant, And it's significant too because you know, you 182 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: you have a linebacker group that's shuffling a little bit, 183 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: so you you'd like to have some consistency up front 184 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: to allow this linebacking group to be at its best. 185 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: But that's just the reality and the way that it is, 186 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: and that's the way the cards are stacked, and you 187 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: just you know, adapt to justin and roll forward and 188 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: in lots of of all times for this kind of 189 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: thing to happen, it's when the Jaguars defense is trying 190 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: to figure out how to stop the running game. They 191 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: couldn't do it a lot last year. They had some, 192 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: certainly in the second half of the season, real issues 193 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: stopping the run against teams, and that is priority number one. 194 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: We heard Josh Allen say, when you have so many 195 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: new faces and new places, it leaves a lot of 196 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: gaps that could be unaccounted for. Unfortunately, well, you're right, 197 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: and that it's it's gonna take some time, i think, 198 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: for for this defense to gel and and to make 199 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: sure that everything is where it needs to be. But 200 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: the good thing is is that stopping the run I've 201 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: always I've always believed us believe that stopping the run 202 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: is not necessarily a talent issue as it is a 203 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: want to and an awareness issue. And because I played 204 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: on some football teams with the New York Jets JP 205 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest here, we weren't that good. 206 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: But if you looked at our rankings and stopping the 207 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: on and Pete Carroll is our defensive coordinator, we were 208 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: in the top ten consistently year and in year out, 209 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: and did we have a ton of talent note, but 210 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: we were well coached, we played with awareness and uh 211 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: and we knew that it was a requirement for us 212 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: to have a chance. So um, I think it's this 213 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: team can get better against the run. But there are 214 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: some players that have to step up significantly. Tavan Bryan 215 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: has to step up significantly. Joe Schoberg has to be 216 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: able to step up. Somebody needs to step up at 217 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: the nose tackle position. Don Tevious Russell's now on I R. 218 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Who is a possibility of battling for playing time with 219 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Avery Jones. You lost Al Woods who opted out. So 220 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of question marks with this defense, and 221 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: hopefully somebody will step up and rose to the occasion 222 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: and take advantage of an opportunity. Let's come back in 223 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: a moment, we'll discuss Gardner Minshew a bit and a 224 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: different type of few and going into a trading camp 225 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: for him for the first time in a long time. 226 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Doug Morons Scheduled in about seven to eight minutes or so. 227 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: This is the Doug Moron Show on Jaguars Radio. Whether 228 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you're driving to a Jaguars game or on the way 229 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: to work. When you see flashing lights, please move over. 230 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: If you can't move over a lane, slow down twenty 231 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: miles per hour below the speed limit. 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And knowing that going into training camp because 266 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: of all the changes he had in college, every new 267 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: place he went, even Washington State, he wasn't really um 268 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, he was a transfer grand transfer coming in 269 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: late so it wasn't like he had all off season 270 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: as the starting quarterback. This is a different feel for Gardner, 271 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: but it's pretty good. But I'm sure, well it's it's 272 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: a great opportunity. But I mean, are you surprised though? 273 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: I Mean, here's the reality about Gardner, Minshew, is his 274 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: measurables don't measure up to what you'd like to say 275 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: is the the ideal measurables for a quarterback. He's not 276 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: six ft three or six ft four, and he doesn't 277 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: have a cannon arm, you know, but he's built more 278 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: like a fullback. You know. It's shorter and stature a compact. 279 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Uh So, I mean, can you understand maybe why that 280 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: he's never been the proclaimed starter. Sure, but all he's 281 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: done in his travels has been to be a good 282 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: player at quarterback and I and I gotta admit, I 283 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: mean last year when he came in, I said, is 284 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: that guy fullback? And somebody said no, no no, no, that's 285 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: the late round pick quarterback that they got. And I'm like, ah, 286 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: he looks like a fullback. But I mean the reality 287 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: is that's what he looked like. And he didn't look 288 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: very good in training camp last year. Um, but boy, 289 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: when he stepped in from the moment he stepped in 290 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: when the injury happened against Kansas City Gardner, Minshew looked 291 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: fantastic and and he had some moments that were just unbelievable. 292 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of improvement to accomplish, though. Hey, 293 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment. Head coach Doug Marone 294 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: will join us in just a moment. This is the 295 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: Doug Marone Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. When America 296 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: needed us to build, we built masks, ventilators, shields. When 297 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 1: local communities and frontliners needed support, Ford Dealers answered. 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Welcome back to 326 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: the Hint in the Autos dot com studio. The Doug 327 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: Moron Show continues right now. Welcome back to the Doug 328 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: Moron Show. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logeman from our home 329 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: studios and head coach Doug Maron joins us from t 330 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: I a A Bank field. Doug, you just came off 331 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: the field from a walkthrough, Is that right? That's correct 332 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: that it just came off the field and they shuffle 333 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: me right in here and here we go. You're gonna 334 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: be glad to finally have a practice where offense and 335 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: defense goes against one another. And for a lot of 336 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: listeners out there, when when does that happen for you 337 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and your football team with this whole acclamation period, Well, 338 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: really for us, it probably starts. I look at as 339 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: it's starting on August eventeen. Um, you know that's when 340 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: the pads come on, um, you know, because you get 341 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: a little worried, and you know everyone's kind of getting 342 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: you know, this is a ramp up period, so everyone's 343 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: kind of getting ramped up, and you know we're doing 344 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: everything we need to do to make sure we can 345 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: go out there and play uh you know, our practice 346 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: for a full practice. But you know, I'm starting to 347 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: get competitive as you can see the juices that are 348 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: starting to go so um. You know, I think the 349 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: seventeenth when you when you come out there and you're 350 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're wearing pads and you're protected. Um, then 351 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: I think we'll start going and even that period, we're 352 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: just gonna you know, we'll work our way up. But 353 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: at least that starts to compact. That's when I always think. 354 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: That's to me when it when it really started, Doug, 355 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: I was thinking, with the defensive line situation, I might 356 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: have a few snaps in me. You know, the price 357 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: is right, I might be available. Yeah, that's that's that's 358 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: where that's where you're gonna be in trouble. You know 359 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying with they're gonna ask for too much. 360 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: Oh that is some some issues there with injuries and 361 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: then Also, you've got some guys that opted out. I mean, 362 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: that's a position group I know you talked about earlier 363 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: this week, and that you know, it's it's it's called 364 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: for concern the boy. I'm sure that you're sitting there going, Okay, 365 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: We've we've got a little bit of time here, and 366 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: when we get to the seventeenth we put pads on. 367 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: It be nice to have a group that's a little 368 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: bit more fortified than where they're at right now. Yeah, 369 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: I just think it's you know, we've got to get 370 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: that group settled in. Um, you know, to the guys 371 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: that we have, I feel comfortable that you know, we 372 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: have the pass rushers, you know in that group with 373 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, obviously with Josh and Caleban and you know, uh, 374 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: smooth going you know, he did a good job last 375 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: year pass rushing from the inside, and a couple of 376 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: other guys that we feel, Um, you know, Lynch has 377 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: some length and it's done a nice job. And then 378 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: we've got guys that we talked about before. I think, um, 379 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, how we're gonna get to the third down, 380 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: how we're gonna get teams to throw well, you know, 381 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: we've got to be able to stop the run. So 382 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: we got some big bodies in there, and um, you know, 383 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes during camp. I think that 384 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, you're always continuing if if we feel you know, 385 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: Dave and I, if we look at it and we 386 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it's not good enough there, then 387 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: you know we'll look to continue to keep upgrading. I 388 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: think we did a good job, um, considering the atmosphere 389 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: or the time that we're in. Now that you know, 390 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: we're able to get some players and then we're still 391 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: working on some players, talking to some guys to come 392 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: into that position and help them just a little bit, Doug, 393 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: Sorry j P. And if you get into the season 394 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you have an issue with 395 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: with COVID or injuries or something of that nature. In 396 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: the way the league that has expanded the practice squad 397 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: to go all the way to six team, would you 398 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: like to even see that, maybe expand a little bit 399 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: more to go to let's say twenty just out of 400 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: convenience us and maybe necessity. Um, I don't know if 401 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: convenience would be the right word to to. You know, 402 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: they get them to make a move, you know, the 403 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: league and the union to do something like that, you know, 404 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: being on the outside. I I've always thought that, UM, 405 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, the more jobs that you can create, you know, 406 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: the better it is. I think that, UM, you know, 407 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: I I've always thought you know, today I got a 408 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: question about the fullback position, and um, Gee for Nett 409 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: asked me a question. I was trying to explain it to, 410 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: you know, kind of just the philosophy of, you know, 411 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: how we look at the position. If it's the you know, 412 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: the undersized offensive guard, UM, that's gonna give you that isolation. Look, UM, 413 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: short yardage goal line, but you know, can't help you 414 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: in the passing game, or it's not gonna be able 415 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: to be on teams. It's very difficult to address that player, 416 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: UM on game day because there's a chance that he 417 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: may only get two or three snaps. You know, there's 418 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: about twelve or sixteen snaps a year average goal line 419 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: personnel goal line snaps depending upon you know, how you 420 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: want to attack a team in short yardage. UM, maybe 421 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: coming out of the end zone. You know, if you're 422 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: on the one yard line, you want to put them 423 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: in there. But if that's what you're doing, you're you're 424 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: really rolling the dice where you can guarantee players um 425 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 1: a position. And I was thinking to myself, you know, 426 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: in college, you know you've got pretty much everyone available, 427 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: so you can have those guys to do that. And 428 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, if the roster did get expanded, um, 429 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, or the game day roster was expanded and 430 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: your team roster was expanded, you know, I think that 431 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, you can see more of that, whereas right 432 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: now we're trying to find, uh, you know, either that 433 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: player as as a true fullback that can do all 434 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: those things, or you know, you look to those you know, 435 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: those those tight end positions to see what they can do. 436 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: But you know you're giving up something and everything that 437 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: you do. You know, most of the time you put 438 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: the tight end fact that are a little bit it longer, 439 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: um you know, and and and the insertion and the 440 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: isolation blocks are a little bit tougher. But maybe you 441 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: get more into passing, you you know, you get bigger targets. 442 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: And so I think, you know, if you're asking me 443 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: if I would be for it, I'm always for more 444 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: jobs than expanding it. But I don't know the uh, 445 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, the details of how it's gotten to this, 446 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, and competitive advantage stuff. I know you you 447 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: you hold on. You know they went with the extra 448 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: lineman this year, which I think is good because I 449 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: haven't been a line coach and being a head coach 450 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: making those decisions and just stressing seven offensive line in 451 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: the game. Uh, you know, you're you're you're holding on 452 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: by the seat of your pants when when someone gets hurt, so, um, 453 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: you know certain positions. I think that you know it could. 454 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: But again it's I don't spend a lot of time 455 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: on and and no one's wait a minute, what should 456 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: we expand the roster? Oh? Absolutely yeah. 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Shatrick, 493 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,479 Speaker 1: Jeff Logoman and head coach Doug Moron on The Doug 494 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Moron Show. Let's let's talk a little offensive line coach. 495 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: You know Cam Robinson spoke with the media this week 496 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: and you know this time last year he wasn't cleared 497 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: yet and then it took him a few games to 498 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: get on the field. He was banged up still then 499 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: and he said he didn't really feel right until the 500 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: last few games of the season last year, night and day. 501 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: Now to how he feels, How does he look to you? 502 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: So far? As you always say, I know they're in 503 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: pajamas right now. But what can you tell us about 504 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Cam Robinson and his off season to get to this point? Yeah, 505 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, it's always tough when 506 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: a player, especially a young player, it comes off the season. Uh, 507 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: then he's injured, and that whole off season is really 508 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: dedicated to trying to get your strength back, trying to 509 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: get um, your body back to a point where you 510 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: can actually start getting on the field. And a thing 511 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: as a young player, the one point of development that 512 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: you miss is you know, it's a technique part of it. So, um, 513 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: I think you know, Cam got thrown in there, and 514 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: when you do that, you're just at a point where 515 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: you're just trying to survive. And that's not not a 516 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: good way to play this game. And um, you're not 517 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: gonna look very good when you're trying to do that. 518 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: And at times, you know Cam didn't. But I think 519 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: that you know, was on a you know, he was 520 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: on a mission. He did a hell of a job 521 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: this offseason. You know, lifting, he came in, he's he's 522 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: big and athletic right now. I mean he looks good. 523 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: Um as a bounced to his staff, he's, Uh, you know, 524 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: you can see a difference from that standpoint. But I 525 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: think for me, the most important part what I've seen 526 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: these last two days, and you can't tell until the 527 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: pets come on, is that from a technical standpoint, Um, 528 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: he's done a lot of work and it shows. I mean, 529 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: his footwork is is much improved than it was from 530 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: a year ago, which is gonna should carry over into 531 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: make him a better player. And um, you know, we 532 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: still got a lot of work to do. We still 533 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of days left, and you know, it's 534 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to see how he develops over the 535 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Well, j T, I think he 536 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: got the terminology wrong. They're not in pajamas, they're in diapers. 537 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: Recording to Coach crewd so Doug with the coach crewden is. 538 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: An interesting thought on on his scheme is that how 539 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: will the demands on the offensive line be different this 540 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: year as opposed to in year's past, Because everybody likes 541 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: to run something different when they're the offensive coordinator. Will 542 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: it be different for the offensive line this year? I 543 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: think I think offensively it's gonna be different. Um, I 544 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: think that you know, we've got some players now that 545 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: we feel, Um, we can we can do some more 546 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: or potentially be able to do some more things from 547 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: a matchup standpoint. Um, So I feel comfortable with that. 548 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: I think it's the same the same pressure on the line, 549 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, most of the time is 550 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: dictated by you know, what what you back and do 551 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: in the running game and as certain players that everyone runs. 552 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: But then you get to what are you going to 553 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: rely on? A lot of it's a combination of how 554 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: you've built your line and how you build you know, 555 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you're you're running back, uh, you know, backfield, so you 556 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: know we've we've got some good elements back there. Um, 557 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: all of our running backs have been really doing a 558 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: heck of a job. Um. And I think our offensive 559 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: line from what I've seen again is that i've seen, uh, 560 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: the group that's gotten bigger, a group that's gotten stronger, 561 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: more explosive. But you can see that just on you know, again, 562 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: it's not a moving target. It's an apparatus, you know, 563 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: whether it's a bag or whether it's a sled. But 564 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: it's encouraging to see. Uh, the more I guess type 565 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: of hand explosion or explosion that was showing in athleticism, 566 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: I think that probably the biggest thing in this camp 567 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: that I've noticed what the line is, you know, not 568 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: only be gotten bigger, but they look, you know, more 569 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: athletic than they have in the past. And you know 570 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: it's not a secret. You know, we've challenged them right 571 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: after the season, UM and the and they know it, 572 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they've been doing everything they can 573 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: to make sure they're ready. So I'm I'm I'm excited 574 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: to see this group go out there and compete. Uh. 575 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: They know that there's a lot of expectation out of 576 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: that group. They have a lot of expectation out of themselves. 577 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: So I think they're in a in a good place 578 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: right now. I think we have to stay healthy, keep 579 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: working UM and then you know, see what happens when 580 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: we get on that field. On the side of that 581 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: line though, Doug is the tight end position, of course, 582 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: and you have your full complement of tight ends on 583 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: the field now. James O'Shaughnessy came off the reserve list, 584 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: so he's out there running around with you. The same 585 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: idea here. You won't really know until you get to UM. 586 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, do eleven on eleven work and see them 587 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: against somebody. But you have to be happy they're all 588 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: out there, first of all, and then confident in what 589 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: this group can do at tight end, because over the 590 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: years around here has been a little difficult to have 591 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: consistency at that position. Absolutely, and and I know from 592 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 1: an offensive standpoint, you know when you talk about, hey, 593 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: how's it going to be different and what goes on? 594 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: And I think the most important thing is that goes 595 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: back to your matchups and what do you have. And 596 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: I think you know, you look around the league and 597 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: you look the see you know, team's got to make decisions. 598 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: You know, when you play with a y tight end 599 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: and now you have this f tight end, you know 600 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna play in nicol, they're gonna play you in bass, 601 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: and you know, so now all of a sudden it 602 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: starts to become a little bit more of a chess game, 603 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a matchup. You know, the 604 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: three really veteran players that we have, or really two 605 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: veteran players and one second year player at at the 606 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 1: one position is uh. You know, we brought in Tyler Eiffer, 607 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: and you know, he's coming off kind of like Cam 608 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: except for you know, he played obviously quite a bit 609 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: before that but hasn't recently had a healthy off season. Well, 610 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: this was this first off season he's come in, UM 611 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: and it's done everything we expected him doing and has 612 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: looked well. And then obviously Josh had that setback last year. 613 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, I think, you know a lot of times 614 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: you look at these guys when I first walked into 615 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: building and either either you get excited or you're like, oh, 616 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, but he walked in and and and he's bigger, 617 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: he's stronger. Um, he's good. I think a guy like 618 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Tyler helps him. And James just came off a p 619 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: U p UM. I think all these guys can help 620 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: us at at either position at the y of the 621 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: f and then you know, you look at the tight 622 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: end positions. Charlotte Jones with a big kid got in 623 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: a little bit last year. We'll see what he can do. 624 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: But he's strong and he's powerful. Uh. And then he's 625 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: two young guys that we you know, one guy we 626 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: drafted and the other guy we you know, have free agency. 627 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: Have done a nice job. So you know, it's gonna 628 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: be an interesting UM competition. It's gonna be interesting to see, uh, 629 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, what they can do from a standpoint where 630 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: we do do one on one when we and and 631 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: how much every one of those guys can do. I 632 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: don't think that we can just label a guy and say, um, 633 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: you know he can't do this. I think you know 634 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: right now, all those players, even even you know, Tyler, 635 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: Josh and James have all played you know why and 636 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: and and it blocked that time. Then it blocked. Well, 637 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: so um, it's gonna be. It's it's it's a different 638 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: it's a different atmosphere because of the you know, how 639 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: we feel about that group. I thought that Jay Gruden 640 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: did a great job of really describing how that that 641 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: position can really impact and really stress a defense. When 642 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: you can find that guy that can fill all the 643 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: roles that tight ends need to fill and you get 644 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: that in one package. It's it's hard to find, though, 645 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: isn't it done? Yeah? I think I think today is 646 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: a great illustration of that. I think that you know, 647 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco and Kansas City kind of locked those guys 648 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: up and you know, given them, you know, good contracts, 649 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: and I think that shows you know, it goes to 650 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: show you that you know, you have guys like Kittle, 651 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: you have guys like Kelsey you know, they're they're outstanding 652 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: football players and they're being compensated for it, and there's 653 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: not you know, many guys at that position that that 654 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: have the ability to do that. So you know, when 655 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: you get someone like that, you're gonna try to keep them. 656 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: And like I said before, those it's it's you know, 657 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: you can bracket those players, you can put different players 658 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: on them, but you know it's you're not usually depending 659 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: on who it is. You know, I was firsthand saw 660 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: how difficult it was being in the a f C 661 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: East when Gronkowski is with in New England. You know, 662 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: you those defensive guys were up all night trying to 663 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: figure out the different matchups, the different bracket coverages. 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That Doug 722 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: Moron Show continues right now. Welcome back our final segment 723 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: with head coach Doug Moron and The Doug Moron Show, 724 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: j P. Shadrick, Jeff Flagman and the head coach. You know, 725 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: we've been out there the last couple of days for 726 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: the first time to get a firsthand look at what's 727 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: going on, and I found it interesting, just the distancing procedure. 728 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: Everybody has their own you know, water bottle, It gets 729 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: thrown to them, individual bottles, individual towels, all that, and 730 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: then after practice, I see one of the equipment guys. 731 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 1: Jeff de Lucas sprang down with sanitizer all the pads 732 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: and everything, and it seems to have paid off not 733 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: only here but around the league coach when less than 734 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: one per cent of the tests have come back positive 735 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: since the teams have arrived in camp this year, so 736 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: there's got to be a pretty high confidence level and 737 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: the testing and the protocol, at least, I'm sure there 738 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: is that it's working so far well. I think, you know, 739 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: obviously it's a fluid situation. I think it's something that 740 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, you're continually, you know, educating yourself. I get 741 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot of questions, you know, how many days or 742 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, do you talk about it with your team? 743 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: And I would say, you know every day where you 744 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: know we're touching on it, because says, you know, we're 745 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: learning things, we're going through it. Um. You know. Here 746 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: it's like I said, I had aversation with my brother 747 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: in law, was an electric cardiologist, and I was like, 748 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: you know, it's so different, you know what I mean. 749 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: It's like almost like you you feel like you're in 750 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: a hospital, how sanitary everything is and you have crews 751 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: coming in. He's like, it's probably more sanitary than the 752 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: hospital and he may he may be right, and you know, 753 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: making sure that you're doing all the right things and 754 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: taking care of the players, and you know, it was interesting. 755 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: Um and you know, we have this ramp up period 756 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 1: and everything, so one and Jeff would appreciate this. One 757 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: of the players goes, he said something like, you know, hey, 758 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: you know training camp is and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 759 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: Do not do not call this training it's you know, 760 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: it's great for all the you know, it's disrespectful for 761 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: all the players that have been through training camp. You know, 762 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: this is different. I understand, but let's not use the 763 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: word training camp right now, you know, because but it's actually, um, 764 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: I have learned the one thing and and and again 765 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: everyone's doing a great job players that everyone and they'll 766 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: be there'll be things that we've got to look out 767 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: for and it would be things coming down the road 768 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: and we've got to we understand that, you know that 769 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: we might have to make adjustments. And it's good because 770 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: adjustment means that we're just trying to keep everybody safe. 771 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: But um, I think the one thing that's helped us 772 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: with this ramp up period a lot of times, you know, 773 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: we come into camp and everyone knows the weather here 774 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: and we just throw those players right out there, and 775 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: you know, we try to push them and get them 776 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: and get them in shape quickly, and you know, next thing, 777 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, you're you're you know, you're watching the weights 778 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: every day and a drop in ten eleven pounds and 779 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, I VS come into play where we haven't 780 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: you know, had any of that yet. And I think 781 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: from this from the standpoint of getting our team acclimated 782 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: to the heat down here, UM, I'm excited about it 783 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: because I think, you know, it's a much better, probably 784 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: a much smarter way to accliman a team, and that 785 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: has to you know, continually practice and and this, uh, 786 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: in this type of weather. Yeah, I'm glad that that 787 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, Doug, because earlier when we were talking 788 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: with JP, he mentioned training camp. I said, wait a minute, JP, 789 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't think i'd quite called this a training camp yet, 790 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: but uh, and I don't know if it will ever 791 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: reach the point to where it's a training camp. But 792 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting listening to Joe Schobert's press 793 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: conference and he talked about acclimating and he did mention 794 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: that he had never experienced heat like this before. So, uh, 795 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: what a great way to be able to acclimate when 796 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: you're not in two days and you're not getting thrown 797 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: right out there in paths though, It's got to be 798 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: kind of nice. If I had that, I might have 799 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: played another year. Yeah, I was thinking. I was thinking myself, like, Okay, 800 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: so we're allowed which is tough to do. You're allowed 801 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: to get fourteen padded practices in. I'm thinking in the beginning, 802 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 1: we had fourteen day to practice in that first week, 803 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, Fan, I mean with the padded practices to 804 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: a day, both in pads. I mean, you know, we 805 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: would have been we would have been done. What about 806 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: five more weeks left the camp? More weeks left the 807 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: camp back on? You know, we played all those preseason games. 808 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: But you know, I think I think it's good. I 809 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: think you know, it's uh, it's a without the preseason games. 810 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: It gives you a chance to pick and choose, you know, 811 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: where where you want to go and get you know, 812 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: your live work in. Because I'm a firm believer that 813 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: you need some of that. Um you know, you can 814 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: control things a little bit A lot of times, like 815 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: I said, when you get in the preseason, you know, 816 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: you worry about guys being exposed, especially a quarterback position. Um, 817 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 1: you know, if someone can come through, someone can blow 818 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: it assignment. Uh, those things can happen. So there's a 819 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: lot of things that I think we can take advantage of. 820 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that that I keep trying 821 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: to tell the coaches haven't experienced this before, is you know, 822 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: let's make sure we change the matchups and who the 823 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: guys are going against, and and let's see them go 824 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: against different type of guys, because you know, during the year, 825 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna face different types of players, whether you 826 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: know they're big and strong or they're you know, maybe smaller, 827 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: you know, and faster or quicker or explosive. You know, 828 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: So we want to make sure that when we're evaluating everyone, 829 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: you know that we're seeing them, um, you know, mixing them, 830 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: mixing them up a little bit. We want to be 831 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: able to do that early because you know, basically at 832 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: the end, you want to get this team together and 833 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 1: really start working and creating that continuity. Coach, great stuff. 834 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: As always, We'll see a practice tomorrow and we'll talk 835 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: to you again next week, all right, Thank you JP, 836 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: Thank you Jeff. There he is head coach Doug Bron 837 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: back with one final segment. 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Our final moments 892 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,280 Speaker 1: on The Doug bron Show, presented by the Florida Department 893 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles. J P. Shadrick from 894 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: the Home studio Jeff Logan from his home studio thanks 895 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: to head coach Doug Moron joining us at t I 896 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 1: a bank field after the Jaguars walked through, and you know, 897 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: if the walk through was outside right now, they'd be 898 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: soaking wet at least, you know, I'm not too far 899 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: away from the stadium your logs and the bottom is 900 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: dropped out yet again. Um, you know, I found it 901 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: interesting there the thought with Doug Brown discussing this is 902 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: not trading camp. They're not even in that mindset yet. 903 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: They're still on the ramp up. There's a lot of stretching, 904 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of drill work done, and then at 905 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: the end there's conditioning. The last twenty minute period today 906 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: was all can isstioning, running sprints, doing that, and it's 907 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: kind of where they are right now. Yeah, That's why 908 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: I was kind of laughing earlier on we were we 909 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: had a graphic of a training camp and I'm going, 910 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I don't know if it's i'd call 911 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: it training camp, but uh but nonetheless it it's the 912 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 1: version of training camp, that's what it is. But you know, 913 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this team and where I 914 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: I think where for me as an analyst, where you 915 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,520 Speaker 1: can really start to judge people is when they put 916 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: the pads on. I mean, there are opportunities to evaluate 917 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: how guys study, how guys work, how they blend in 918 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 1: with their teammates, how they lead, how they may not 919 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: leave u There's a lot of different things that you 920 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,280 Speaker 1: can look at from that standpoint. But the true evaluation 921 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,760 Speaker 1: begins when the pads come on, and you can answer 922 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: the question or begin to answer the question, can this 923 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: guy play football? And football is played with pads, It's 924 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: not played in diapers or underwear Olympics. There's so many 925 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: different terms that we have for where they're at right 926 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: now in this phase. But when the pads come on, 927 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,800 Speaker 1: that's when the evaluation, the series evaluation begins. And here's 928 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: the other question. You're gonna miss a little bit of 929 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,200 Speaker 1: a component of that this year, you know, because the 930 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: evaluation historically has always started when the pads come on. 931 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: And then also when the lights turn on and the 932 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: pads are on, it's another step in the evaluation process. 933 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: Can guys raise their level of play when it comes 934 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: to kick off time in a game situation? The Jaguars 935 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: aren't going to have that evaluation to be able to 936 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 1: lean on this year. So there's gonna be a lot 937 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 1: of decisions that are made based on faith and believe 938 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: and what's scouting information they got on these players and 939 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily proven factual data that they evaluated with their 940 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: eyes by watching players and multiple practices and multiple game situations. 941 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: Those padded practice has become also important to to get 942 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 1: reps as as you said, obviously, the opportunities are fewer 943 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: this year for some of these guys on the bubble, 944 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: and and dougas talked about it as well. I mean, 945 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: you gotta go out and perform and practice the best 946 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: you can and then well there's been a lot of different, 947 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: I guess ways that coaches have talked about how they 948 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: want to go about preparing for a season. And we 949 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier, and do you want to do you 950 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: want to scrimmage? You know in college you could do that. 951 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: You could have inter squad scrimmage, you could have live 952 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: drills and everything, because everybody that you have in your 953 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: camp in college you're keeping you know, there's scholarship players 954 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 1: are walk on players. I mean, look, everybody's got a jersey, 955 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: everybody's got a locker. Nick savings, not cutting anybody. You know, 956 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a salary captain Hannhage. You know, whereas 957 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: a professional football team you have salary cap, you've got 958 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: roster limitations. And so there's a lot of things that 959 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: I think that are gonna go into the decision making 960 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: process of how, you know, Doug bron is gonna get 961 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: his football team ready and and and I think he's 962 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: got to strike kind of a balance because it's a 963 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: young team. But at the same token, so you want 964 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: to make sure that you get as many reps as 965 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 1: you can for a young team, but then it also 966 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: has components of it that aren't so young, you know, 967 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: like a Brandon Lender. You know, you want to make 968 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: sure you get him ready for the season. You want 969 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 1: to make sure that you have guys that are fresh 970 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: and ready to go when the when they start counting 971 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: the wins and losses and not necessarily trying to win 972 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: the All Duval Team award. You know, prior to the 973 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: season actually started. We we touched earlier and throughout the 974 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: day on all the changes for this team over the 975 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: last week, really on the defensive line. That's that's where 976 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: the turnover has been as of late um it is. 977 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: It's got to be a challenge, and not only for 978 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: that group. Yes, there's new faces and and everybody, but 979 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 1: that's a defensive issue. That's an entire defense issue. That's 980 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,400 Speaker 1: not just a line issue. That turns into a couple 981 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: of levels at least of your defense having to deal 982 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: with new faces and new places. Well, I feel I 983 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,840 Speaker 1: feel for ReBs which uh Jason and the coach of 984 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: the defensive line River Bitches where everybody calls him ReBs 985 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: and he's got it. He's got a tough task now. 986 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean when you start having a coach guys that 987 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 1: aren't even on your team anymore, or guys that weren't 988 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: on your team a couple of days ago now they're 989 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: just joining. I mean that's a you know, that's what 990 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 1: they pay coaches money for. They've got to be able 991 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 1: to adapt and adjustin He's got a tall task to 992 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: be able to put this defensive line together, you know. 993 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,240 Speaker 1: And on top of that, it's not just the parts 994 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: that you're missing that you're trying to replace and that 995 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: it's also the parts that you have already had that 996 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: you've got to find a way to continue to develop them. 997 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: Tavin Bryan. You gotta get Taven Brian better. You know, 998 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to get Avery Jones to 999 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: play better. I mean, he's a nose tackle. He said 1000 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: that the middle of that defense that's so important to 1001 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: stopping the running game. You've got to find a way 1002 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: to develop a three technique defensive tackle because if Gutter 1003 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: can't go because he still has an illness, you know 1004 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: who else is gonna play besides Tavin Bryan. You know, 1005 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: so Dontavius Russell not available? I would opted out. J P. Shadrack, 1006 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: can you play? I don't think so. I'm gonna stay 1007 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,919 Speaker 1: in the media side. I'm good. That is interesting. You're like, hey, 1008 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: how maybe I'll take some snaps. No no chance, no no, no, 1009 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,280 Speaker 1: no chance I have I'm joking. And then I'll take 1010 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: the signing bonus, the guarantee non refundled signing boats. Then 1011 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: I'll retire right after that. I like that idea that 1012 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,920 Speaker 1: that wouldn't bet on at all. So the Jags are 1013 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: back in the practice field tomorrow for the ramp up 1014 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: to continue Phase two. We're not calling it training camp, 1015 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: thank you yet, And I believe we're gonna hear from 1016 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: Todd wash tomorrow. I'm interested to see what he has 1017 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 1: to say about all this. Well, I'm sure he's he's 1018 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: got an opinion that if you asked him honestly, uh, 1019 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 1: he would probably give you a different answer than what 1020 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you, you know, in a press conference situation. 1021 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: But here, here's the reality. It's not a great situation 1022 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. Defensively, the amount of transition that this 1023 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: defensive side of the football has undergone him the last 1024 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: couple of years alone has been staggering, from having arguably 1025 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: the best cornerback tandem in the league to the defensive 1026 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: line combination and now all of a a sudden that's evaporated. 1027 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 1: A lot of challenges for Todd Walher's defense, no doubt, 1028 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of challenges ahead for the Jags here 1029 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: and once training camp officially it is under way, but 1030 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: once the real training camp gets here, a lot of 1031 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 1: evaluation yet to come. Our thanks to head coach Doug 1032 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: Marone for joining us logs. We'll talk to you again 1033 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: next week. You got a j P for a Jeff Logman. 1034 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: Our entire crew, I'm JP Shadrick will catch you next time. 1035 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: This is the Doug Brone Show. On the Jaguars Radio Network,