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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 3: Is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic. Christ Is

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Speaker 3: King Tonight, exactly one year after his arrest, we're seeing

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Speaker 3: for the first time the stunning body camera footage showing

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Speaker 3: the moment police confront accused killer Luigi Menngioni. Officers pulling

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Speaker 3: The officer first walks by to have a look at

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Speaker 4: It's a yes, appreciated.

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Speaker 5: Hi you, White House, says the US. A seasonal oil

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Speaker 5: countries reaching a fever pitch. One week after promising land

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Speaker 6: We've just seized a tanker and the coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 6: Large tanker, very large, largest whatever sees day.

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Speaker 7: The Senate vote to address the looming spike in premiums

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Speaker 7: expected to force a vote on their proposal of a

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Speaker 7: That legislation is expected to fail, and meanwhile, Senate Majority

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Speaker 7: Leader John Thune told reporters this afternoon that Republicans will

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Speaker 6: Without this economy, there's no world. You know, you can

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Speaker 6: go to some of these wonderful countries that you think

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Speaker 6: Use Switzerland as an example, but Switzerland paid almost nothing

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Speaker 9: Or whatever you want to call it. License.

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Speaker 6: They paid nothing, and you know they're paying now.

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Speaker 9: They're paying a fair amount.

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Speaker 6: I had them at thirty nine percent, but I decided.

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Speaker 10: To be nice.

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and John, welcome aboard today's edition of Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. We're here live in Washington, d C. Today's

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Speaker 1: December eleventh, twenty twenty five Anno Dominie. And today we're

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Speaker 1: going to have a roundtable discussion on the threat of

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Speaker 1: leftist violence here in America and really all across the West.

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Speaker 9: And to do so.

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Speaker 1: How interesting that we've got so we've got two native

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Speaker 1: student is the great doctor Charles cornish Dale of Oxford.

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Speaker 1: You may know him as the raw Egg Nationalists.

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Speaker 9: What's up?

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Speaker 11: Name?

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Speaker 9: It's great to be And of course my wife, the

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Speaker 9: beautiful and lovely tiny Taposovic than.

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Speaker 12: For having me, and oh for having you, she says,

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Speaker 12: for having you have a choice, and and then joining

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Speaker 12: us via remote is the great Bolster the People's pond

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Speaker 12: at Rich Barris, what's up Rich.

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Speaker 8: Living the dream? Jack? Thanks for having me on as

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Speaker 8: always brother.

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Speaker 1: And right now in a courtroom in Utah, the courtroom

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Speaker 1: in Utah, Charlie Kirk's accused murderer, Tyler Robinson is conducting

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Speaker 1: his first in person hearing. And we do have correspondence

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Speaker 1: reason that I wanted to do this is quite simple

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Speaker 1: is that we all know that we're facing a serious threat,

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Speaker 9: There just going up with the table.

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Speaker 1: Because what you do worry about is copycat violence. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: People just don't take it seriously.

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Speaker 4: No, people don't. I mean, there's been polling that shows

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Speaker 4: you've killed one of America's most important young Republicans, one

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Speaker 9: It's the political left by far benefits the most. Well.

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Speaker 9: Off the board who not only.

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Speaker 9: Running rings around them in the here and now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right back, quick break the political violence panel today

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Speaker 1: here on Human Events, daleb right back, real America's voice,

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Speaker 9: Art we're on with.

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Speaker 1: Our political violence left this violence panel, and I want

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Speaker 1: to throw it now to Rich Barrass because Rich, you

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Speaker 1: over at the People's Punt of big data poll you

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Speaker 1: publish some very shocking and disturbing information regarding attitudes that

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Speaker 11: Jack to summit down, to break it down really easy

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Speaker 11: for everybody to understand, is that the left views words

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Speaker 9: It wasn't an accident incident. Yeah, No, it's exactly right, Charles.

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Speaker 11: this big Well, it's there.

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Speaker 8: We're just we just didn't spend the time to talk

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Speaker 8: about it.

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Speaker 11: It's more than just the actions of a single guy,

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Speaker 11: that's right. It's an entire culture of left wing It's

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Speaker 11: an entire change in left wing behavior where they now

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Speaker 11: perceive violence as okay in order to get what they

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Speaker 11: want and in their minds and was in order to

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Speaker 11: defend themselves against the rest of the people who don't

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Speaker 11: agree with them, So there is a big story there.

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Speaker 8: It's just a shame because.

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Speaker 11: The response did not match the event. And that's what

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Speaker 11: I mean unfortune. We're all human and we all have

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Speaker 11: our tendencies, and one of them is to you know,

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Speaker 11: is justice, and people feel like the Trump administration isn't

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Speaker 11: doing enough to pursue that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and when it comes to these things as well,

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Speaker 1: it's meant. You mentioned how the left feels as though

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Speaker 1: they're defending themselves, and I think that's right. Left use

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Speaker 1: themselves as constantly being victimized, and there's no level of

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Speaker 1: power or control over society, control over media, control over

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Speaker 1: the narrative that they can attain where they still won't

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Speaker 1: feel that they are still the ones being victimized. It

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Speaker 1: is inherent to their personality because it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: when they talk about Christopher Columbus in this country and

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Speaker 1: then you'll have these teachers say, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: supposed to tell you this, but actually Christopher Columbus was bad.

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Speaker 9: Everyone says that.

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Speaker 1: All the teachers say that, all of the history shows

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Speaker 1: say that it's a lie.

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Speaker 9: It's a complete lie, it's an obvious lie.

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Speaker 1: But you are in total domination, and they'll never actually

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Speaker 1: admit that they are in complete domination.

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Speaker 9: So in their views.

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Speaker 11: Defense, what does that leave them? What does that tell

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Speaker 11: you about their end game?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 11: Right, So it doesn't matter if they control the media,

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Speaker 11: they control both Houses of Congress, they control the White House,

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Speaker 11: They're always going to feel like they're at risk and

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Speaker 11: they're being victimized.

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Speaker 8: So what does that tell you about the endgame? What

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Speaker 8: would ultimately make them feel safe?

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Speaker 1: Well, the end game is constant revolution, complete and complete

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Speaker 1: and yeah, total elimination of their political opponents that end.

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Speaker 9: And by the way, once they get rid of the kullos, they'll.

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Speaker 1: Find new ones, as anyone who lived through the Soviet

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Speaker 1: Union would you know? Be right back, Jack Pasovic, Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily, the panel on Leftist Violence.

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Speaker 8: And Jack, Where's Jack? Where's Jack?

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Speaker 10: Where is he? Jack?

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Speaker 4: I want to see you.

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Speaker 6: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 8: We're always talking about the.

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Speaker 3: Fake news and the band, but.

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Speaker 6: We have guys and these are the guys should be

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Speaker 6: getting pulasushki.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack, Pacific, Washington, DC. Human Events. We're back

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Speaker 1: with the Leftist political Violence Panel. Jack Pasobic, doctor Charles Cornishdale,

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Speaker 1: the raw egg nationalist Rich Barrass, the People's pun to

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Speaker 1: end the Beautiful and lovely Tanya Tay Pacobic, Tanya Tay.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to you real quick, because Rich was

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Speaker 1: just asking a question in the last segment about what

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Speaker 1: happens if the Left game's total power. And I wrote

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Speaker 1: the book on humans, the Secret Si to e Commuist

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Speaker 1: Revolutions and How to Smash Them last year New Chimes bestseller.

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Speaker 9: Let's Go and.

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Speaker 1: Russia and specifically how Rush devolved into the Soviet Union

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Speaker 1: is a story about what happened when the Left attained

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Speaker 1: total power. And I don't usually ask you about the

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Speaker 1: Soviet Union very much, but you know, we can go

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Speaker 1: all the way back to the very beginning in the Bolsheviks,

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Speaker 1: and I'll just ask you the Romanov family. So you

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Speaker 1: had the mother and the father, the Emperor Tzarnsarina and

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Speaker 1: all the children, five children and including Anastasia and little

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Speaker 1: Prince Alexi. What happened to the Romanov family after the

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Speaker 1: Left took complete power in Russia?

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Speaker 10: The Romanov kamily got assassinated the parents' children even though

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Speaker 10: children had they have not done no evil they were

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Speaker 10: Prince Alexey was just just a kid. Yet they did

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Speaker 10: not spare anybody's life. They were brutally murdered.

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Speaker 1: They brought them into the basement and told them they

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Speaker 1: were there for a photography shoot and they should put

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Speaker 1: their their suit dresses on the best attire.

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Speaker 10: So the murders started this movement where violence became an

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Speaker 10: acceptable means of changing the course of history. And then

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Speaker 10: the Bolsheviks came into power, and then at that time

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Speaker 10: there were still a lot of supporters of the Romano family,

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Speaker 10: and every single person who was too outspoken, who was

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Speaker 10: viewed as the enemy of the state and the enemy

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Speaker 10: of the Bolsheviks, Mission I was either sent to the gulas,

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Speaker 10: some of the people disappeared without any trace of them,

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Speaker 10: some of them were publicly arrested, and the whole life

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Speaker 10: got destroyed.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, when when you're going to school

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Speaker 1: in the Soviet Union, they teach it a little bit differently,

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Speaker 1: don't they.

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Speaker 10: They really do they do. And when you're reading the

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Speaker 10: history book, you never really know who is the good

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Speaker 10: or who is the bad guy. You it's often presented

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Speaker 10: that the Tsars, the Romanovs, there are those oppressive oppressive type,

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Speaker 10: the capital, the privileged, their privilege to have all the

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Speaker 10: all the money, the power, the influence, and the other

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Speaker 10: class is the oppressed one. So the Bolsheviks are the

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Speaker 10: ones who are saving the poor people from the oppressives.

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Speaker 1: And of course the reason that they murdered the daughters

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Speaker 1: and they murder the children is because they want to

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Speaker 1: prevent a resurgence of the Tsar's family.

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Speaker 10: Exactly what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what they were doing because they wanted to prevent

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Speaker 1: anyone from being able to rally behind an air or and.

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Speaker 10: In that case they justified an assassination. They found a

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Speaker 10: perfect example to say it needed to be done. They

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Speaker 10: brought it on themselves for being the Romanov family.

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Speaker 1: They say that when Sarina Alexandra was killed, that the

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Speaker 1: very last thing she did was she stood in front

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Speaker 1: of her children and she made the sign of the

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Speaker 1: cross as they shot her.

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Speaker 10: Just like any mother would, just like we see every

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Speaker 10: standing up every single day trying to protect her children,

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Speaker 10: the innocence of their childhood, to help them shield through

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Speaker 10: all the enemies and all the threats that they are

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Speaker 10: receiving on daily basis. And if you think they're only

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Speaker 10: going after Charlie. Well, you don't have any idea what

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Speaker 10: you're talking about because the history just out there and.

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Speaker 9: It's an open book, right.

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Speaker 1: And of course they didn't start with going after Charlie.

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Speaker 1: They tried to go after Trump first. They've they've tried

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Speaker 1: to go after his children and they all have Secret

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Speaker 1: Service protection. And when that didn't work, the way I

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Speaker 1: look at it is, they went after his surrogate son,

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Speaker 1: if you will, someone who was close to him, someone

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Speaker 1: who was close to the family, someone who clearly you

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Speaker 1: could see a father son relationship kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: dynamic there. But Charlie didn't have Secret Service and all

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Speaker 1: of this protection. He had whatever, you know, his private

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Speaker 1: protection and relied on campus.

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Speaker 9: Security, which as as we can see, was inadequate by

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Speaker 9: by far.

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Speaker 1: And to be clear, as you know, for anyone who

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Speaker 1: has questions about all of that, I have just as

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Speaker 1: many questions too, and I want all of the documents

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Speaker 1: and everything released on this because it's absolutely horrific. But

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Speaker 1: doctor Charles, when when it comes down to it and

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Speaker 1: you've studied this pathology write about it quite a bit

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Speaker 1: for us at human events dot Com, James.

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Speaker 9: Plug and.

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Speaker 1: These people they're written off Antifa's written off, and you've

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Speaker 1: got Benny Thompson up there saying, oh, they're you know.

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Speaker 9: They're not that big of a thread, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: And yet, as Rich showed, they're far more willing to

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Speaker 1: accept and use violence than anyone on the right because

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Speaker 1: they have they have this sort of I'm defending myself

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Speaker 1: or defending.

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Speaker 9: Others kind of perspective.

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Speaker 1: And you see this in study after study of their

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Speaker 1: their beliefs they have.

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Speaker 9: It's it's always the out group preference.

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Speaker 1: It's always the I you know, the heat map, which

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Speaker 1: they try to deny over and over. Meme, talk to

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Speaker 1: me a little bit about the pathology and how it

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Speaker 1: drives them towards violence.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there is a very distinct leftist pathology

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Speaker 4: that's very different actually from the right, and we've certainly

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Speaker 4: seen that today in terms of political violence. I mean

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Speaker 4: part of that obviously, I think part of the problem,

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Speaker 4: of course is that the right actually we're still relying

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Speaker 4: on reason and debate. You know, there's still the idea.

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Speaker 4: I think that actually what we need to do is

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Speaker 4: we need to convince leftists that violence is wrong by

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Speaker 4: reason debate.

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Speaker 9: Charlie was, yeah, debating debating.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean you know that that should be

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Speaker 4: a message, shouldn't it. Actually, this is what trying to

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Speaker 4: debate these people, this is where it gets you.

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Speaker 9: You know, you have they respond when they get.

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Speaker 4: With an incredibly reasonable person, you know, an upstanding man

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Speaker 4: who believed in the power of discussion and debate and

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Speaker 4: wanted to bring people together to iron out their differences.

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Speaker 4: Now you shoot them in the neck in public.

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Speaker 9: So I mean, he's meant to be in public.

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Speaker 4: And exactly and that actually, that's an interesting difference between

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Speaker 4: the murder of the Romanovs and political violence today. You know,

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Speaker 4: in the Soviet Union, actually the Soviet leadership were kind

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Speaker 4: of ashamed of what they did to the Romanovs. They

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Speaker 4: hid it for a long time, you know, they they

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Speaker 4: hid the bodies I think in a well or was

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Speaker 4: it or mind shaft there it.

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Speaker 1: Was a mind shaft, and that it was buried over

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Speaker 1: and there's yeah, there's statements that even even members of

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Speaker 1: the Red Army, Marshall Jukov, for example, refuse to shake

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Speaker 1: the hand.

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Speaker 4: Yes, at one point, I don't shake the hand of

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Speaker 4: executioner executioner.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they were disgusted when the Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's because they'd murdered a family in cold blood, including

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Speaker 4: the children.

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Speaker 1: They had been in prison before. It wasn't like they

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Speaker 1: were out doing something.

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Speaker 4: And in fact there was you know, there was taught

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Speaker 4: that actually they might end up going into exile in

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Speaker 4: the West, and unfortunately in the British royal family, in

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Speaker 4: a very cowardly way, refused to allow them to come

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Speaker 4: over to Britain. But who was cousin exactly? Yeah, who

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Speaker 4: looked very much like it as well if you see grandmother,

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Speaker 4: see the pictures of them. But yes, the leftist pathology

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Speaker 4: is an interesting one. And you know, I've got another

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Speaker 4: shameless plug. I've got a new book, The Last Men,

649
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Speaker 4: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity, where I look at

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Speaker 4: political trends from a biological perspective, and in particular from

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Speaker 4: the perspective of pervasive civilizational testosterone decline. So testosterone is

652
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Speaker 4: the master male hormone. You know, it's what makes men men.

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Speaker 4: It gives a muscle mass, libido, energy, motivation. But it

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Speaker 4: also actually, and this is this is a neglected point,

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Speaker 4: a misunderstood point, it actually affects people's It actually affects

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Speaker 4: men's political affiliation. So there are lots of studies that show,

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Speaker 4: for example, that if you give men a dose of testosterone,

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Speaker 4: they exhibit greater in group preference. So you talked about

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Speaker 4: outgroup preference, about the way that liberals constantly favor the

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Speaker 4: outgroup over the in group. You know, they're always looking

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Speaker 4: to these marginalized minority groups.

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Speaker 1: And your book you walk through and you have studied

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Speaker 1: by a study and the research backing it up that

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Speaker 1: it's actually almost biological, yes, that what creates this in

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Speaker 1: group preference versus outgroup. And I say in group preference,

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Speaker 1: I could mean something as simple as do you care

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Speaker 1: about Charlie's family and children that is their in group

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Speaker 1: or is your care on Oh well, Charlie's words were

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Speaker 1: harmful to the transgender community, and therefore somehow that might

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Speaker 1: cause someone's self.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's just told, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, almost like a Rubs Goldberg machine of causality to

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Speaker 1: try to understand what they're saying. It's like a leftist meme.

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Speaker 9: Tell us again the name of the book and where

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Speaker 9: can people get it.

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Speaker 4: It's called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of

677
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Speaker 4: Masculinity is at December the sixteenth, and you can pre

678
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Speaker 4: order it now on Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to read this because I've heard you

680
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Speaker 1: mentioned that from time to time, but I want to

681
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Speaker 1: actually go down the deep dive of this, and sweetheart,

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that anything you're cooking for

683
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Speaker 1: Christmas is in line with the high testosterone options that

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Speaker 1: we have as it always is.

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Speaker 9: Okay, high protein, no soy, no soy? What's our right?

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Speaker 9: Back Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 8: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 6: He's written that fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 8: Go get it.

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Speaker 6: And he's been my friend right from the beginning of

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Speaker 6: this whole beautiful event, and we're going to turn her

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Speaker 6: around and make our country way to get him.

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Speaker 1: Ay Man, Jack Selwick were back live Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: You know, every time I watched that video of Trump

695
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Speaker 1: talking about the book right there reminds me that it

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Speaker 1: was Charlie Kirk who filmed that video when we were

697
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Speaker 1: backstage at the at the rally and he said, mister President,

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Speaker 1: Jack wrote a book, which you do a little video

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Speaker 1: for him. And I was just going to hand him

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Speaker 1: a book and hopefully get a picture. But Charlie he

701
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Speaker 1: set it up and he and he got the video.

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Speaker 1: Rich Barris, I want to go back to you real quick,

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Speaker 1: because you actually have done some polling on this. Why

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Speaker 1: do we keep seeing this high level of violence? And

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Speaker 1: doctor Charles, you've written about this, the transgender shooters or

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Speaker 1: people related to the transgender community like Tyler Robinson, why

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Speaker 1: do we see such a high level of violence associated

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Speaker 1: with them?

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Speaker 11: I'm listening intently and I can't wait to reach Charles's

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Speaker 11: book myself, because we did even before Charlie's assassination, we

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Speaker 11: had seen a rash of mass shooting events and other

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Speaker 11: shooting events where the perpetrator was trans identified as trans.

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Speaker 11: So when we did this study, we did and you

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Speaker 11: have to oversample these individuals because they're such small percentages

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Speaker 11: of the overall population you're studying, but we did over

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Speaker 11: sample people who identify as trans binary, and what we

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Speaker 11: did find was that one of the questions very simple,

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Speaker 11: does some people hold beliefs that are so bad, so offensive,

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Speaker 11: that acts of violence are justified against them? And when

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Speaker 11: you ask trans individuals that jack, they they're more than

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Speaker 11: twice as likely to say that than any other demographic group.

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Speaker 11: It's almost seventy percent, by the way, and that is

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Speaker 11: directly related to the again perceived fear that other people's

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Speaker 11: ideas pose a danger to them specific so it's no

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Speaker 11: surprise that when we asked questions like the one we

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Speaker 11: discussed before, whose views or was it their views? Was

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Speaker 11: the mental health of the perpetrator, who's really most responsible

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Speaker 11: for these acts? And they're much more likely to say

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Speaker 11: that the individual brought this upon themselves. So again what

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Speaker 11: we talked about earlier in the segment with people having

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Speaker 11: you know, a hard time telling the difference between words

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Speaker 11: and actual violence, those groups that demographic group, particularly transgenders,

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Speaker 11: are among the highest likely to say that. You know,

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Speaker 11: they they not only justify, but they're perfectly it's acceptable

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Speaker 11: because after all, words can hurt you too, so they

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Speaker 11: feel it's an appropriate response.

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Speaker 8: So there definitely is something there.

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Speaker 11: And I, you know, well, finding these results, I'm just

739
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Speaker 11: finding these results.

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Speaker 8: Doctor Charles is posing.

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Speaker 11: Another idea I didn't even consider, which is I thought,

742
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Speaker 11: maybe this is a social thing, Jack right, we don't

743
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Speaker 11: know yet, So I'm interested to see what he found.

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Speaker 9: Out out because it's very real. This research is real.

745
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Speaker 9: We can see it extrending.

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Speaker 1: Tany Tay, you're very involved in the MAHA community. You know,

747
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Speaker 1: it's something you talk about. So we got to see

748
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Speaker 1: Secretary Kennedy the other night, and we're talking about the

749
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Speaker 1: rescheduling of hepatitis C vaccine and it's.

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Speaker 9: It's and it's actually has a real world quotion.

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Speaker 1: It's way beyond just just health. And so tell people

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Speaker 1: again the name of the book and when it comes out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So the name of the book is The Last Men,

754
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Speaker 4: Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity. It's out via sky

755
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Speaker 4: Horse and it's available for pre order now at Amazon

756
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Speaker 4: dot com and it will be released next week, December

757
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Speaker 4: the sixteenth, just in time for.

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Speaker 9: Christmas coming up.

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Speaker 10: Maybe I can go.

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Speaker 3: A gift.

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Speaker 9: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 4: But you know, there's there's a question I'd like to

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Speaker 4: ask ask you.

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Speaker 9: Just taking over the show?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what's it like being married to Jack? You know,

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Speaker 4: someone who was basically Charlie's best friend. How does it feel?

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Speaker 10: Well, everybody saw Jack's immediate reaction after Charlie's assassination. He

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Speaker 10: hasn't stopped from the second he heard the news at

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Speaker 10: this very table to basically right now, he's been in

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Speaker 10: a total mission mode. And the first day he was

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Speaker 10: the one hosting Charlie's show because his team just was

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Speaker 10: figuring out all the details. And he's been on a go.

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Speaker 10: But then the side that Manie don't see is when

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Speaker 10: we have those quiet family dinners and then when we

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Speaker 10: join a movie and Jack is always the one who

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Speaker 10: is never short full words. He will be always chatting,

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Speaker 10: tell me the latest news, the latest gossip, and then

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Speaker 10: he would get quiet and then he just loop somewhere

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Speaker 10: far in the distance and just say, very quietly, I

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Speaker 10: just miss my friend. I just miss sending them a message.

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Speaker 10: I just missed calling him and discussing I miss my

782
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Speaker 10: brother in arms who I need to go and tackle

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Speaker 10: this problem and strategize what's the next move.

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Speaker 9: Well, it's it's great having your support as well.

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Speaker 1: And and also the fact that, look, I'm you've never

786
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Speaker 1: asked me to stop. You've never asked and I wouldn't mind,

787
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Speaker 1: you know that I wouldn't, but you've.

788
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Speaker 9: Never asked me.

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Speaker 1: You've never tried to say slow down, And well, I'm

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Speaker 1: try but.

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Speaker 9: I didn't hear it. It's a little selective deafness there.

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Speaker 11: But you.

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Speaker 9: Wouldn't be able to get through this about you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, that's enough smalty moments on the on the

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Speaker 1: show there, folks, But no, it's it's look, it's this

796
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: stuff is real. All right, this stuff is real, and

797
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Speaker 1: I'll say this, you know, even even for you.

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Speaker 9: I remember I was standing right over there when I

799
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Speaker 9: called you, and you know I had to give you

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Speaker 9: the call.

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Speaker 1: And Eastern European women aren't exactly known for showing uh vulnerability,

802
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Speaker 1: very tough, very strong, exactly.

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Speaker 9: Right, and.

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Speaker 1: I just I remember I could, I could hear so

805
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Speaker 1: much pain in your voice.

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Speaker 9: And I'll never forget I'm still there. I'll never forget

807
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Speaker 9: hearing that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, people ask me what I went for Christmas, Like,

809
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Speaker 1: it's only one thing I'd want for Christmas, hold my

810
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Speaker 1: friend back.

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Speaker 9: It's the only thing. So it's anything else.

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Speaker 1: Everything else, just see and and people will say, you know, oh,

813
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Speaker 1: it's so great, you know you're doing this, you're doing that.

814
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Speaker 1: There's so many you know people listening or whatever it is,

815
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Speaker 1: and it's like it's not worth it.

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Speaker 9: It's just not worth it. I trade all the oh followers,

817
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 9: whatever doesn't matter, doesn't matter. But I want to thank

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Speaker 9: you guys all for being on here today.

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Speaker 1: This was a great, a great segment, and it realized

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Speaker 1: we're going to go emotional with this.

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Speaker 9: But thank you doctor Charles right there using his uh,

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Speaker 9: his his.

823
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Speaker 1: British wiles to uh to to get us to break out.

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Speaker 9: But all right, all right, you know to to drop

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Speaker 9: this out.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about your book, and yes, I do

827
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Speaker 1: have a Christmas birthday. But I have to ask you, guys,

828
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Speaker 1: has everyone done there Christmas shopping yet?

829
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Speaker 4: I've been here. I've been here for two weeks.

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Speaker 9: You're doing the book tour. You're about you, sweetheart.

831
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Speaker 10: I came up with this fantastic idea and I've been

832
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Speaker 10: working on it. I'm not telling you and that what

833
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Speaker 10: can you get to somebody who has everything you have me,

834
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Speaker 10: you have the kids.

835
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Speaker 9: No one else.

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Speaker 10: With a really cool idea. And I cannot wait to

837
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Speaker 10: see your face when you're.

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Speaker 9: Open your gift. Is it now for Christmas or birthday?

839
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Speaker 9: It's for Christmas.

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Speaker 10: Already in the living room. You would you refuse to

841
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Speaker 10: open her for like days?

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Speaker 11: Now?

843
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Speaker 9: Is on my birthday?

844
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Speaker 4: Yet?

845
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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 1: She got me these gifts and she put him in

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Speaker 1: the living room and she said, hey, you should open

848
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Speaker 1: your birthday and you could a huge boxer.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what it is, the giant boxes and

850
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 9: she says open. I said, look it open. It's not

851
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 9: my birthday yet, So I just walked past them every day.

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00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 9: That's just sitting there, and the kids have been drawing

853
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 9: on them and stuff. But it's all it's all set off.

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00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 9: But I don't know, Rich, what do you think? Should

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Speaker 9: I be worried?

856
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 10: No?

857
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Speaker 11: I think this is going to be good. That I've

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Speaker 11: I've heard that in my own wife's voice before. That

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Speaker 11: means they put thought into it. Jack, this is going

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Speaker 11: to be good.

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Speaker 9: I don't know something this could be. This could be

862
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Speaker 9: very dangerous.

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Speaker 10: I think you tear up.

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Speaker 1: Oh all right, all right, guys were down the rock

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Speaker 1: very last minute.

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Speaker 9: Rich Barris gives you coordinates.

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Speaker 8: Uh you know wherever where, Jack.

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Speaker 11: The best place to follow us is always is actually

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Speaker 11: on locals, People's Pundent Thought locals dot com, People's Pundit

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Speaker 11: dot locals dot com.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys, Doc Charles.

872
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Speaker 4: Follow me on Twitter. I am Baby Gravy nine on Twitter.

873
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Speaker 4: My substack is raw eggstack dot com. And pre order

874
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Speaker 4: my book The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of

875
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: Masculinity at Amazon dot com and you'll get it next

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Speaker 4: week December the sixteenth.

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Speaker 10: Sweetheart, I don't have the book out yet, but you

878
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Speaker 10: could follow me on Twitter at real tan Ta Real.

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Speaker 1: Tan Yaday all right folks, great panel and thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank the audience for being here as well.

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Speaker 9: Lady and jentlem has always you have my permission,