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Speaker 3: Welcome to the No Dungks podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 3: It's Monday, June twenty sixth, twenty twenty three. I'm Jay

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Speaker 3: Easkey's here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always,

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Speaker 1: Happy Free Agency week.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, Yes, indeed over yonder it's the man making the

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Speaker 3: We are the Bearded one. Trey Kirby off today. He's

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Speaker 3: But anyway, all right, well let's move. Let's keep talking

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Speaker 3: I have one hundred percent agree with you. I think

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Speaker 3: He is good. We don't talk about him like he's good,

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Speaker 1: from thirty two to thirty five mil. But this roster

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Speaker 1: is not done. I just think it's a better alternative

431
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Speaker 1: than just going to sign minimum guys to fill out

432
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Speaker 1: your roster. That's the only option they have now with

433
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Speaker 1: these three huge contracts in Durant, Booker, and Beale. If

434
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Speaker 1: you keep Ayton, that's all you can do to fill

435
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Speaker 1: out your roster.

436
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Speaker 3: It's true. Well, let's move on to the Sacramento Kings.

437
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 3: Our guy John hollandred great article up over the weekend

438
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Speaker 3: sort of looking at a bunch of things in free

439
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,959
Speaker 3: agency and sort of a post NBA draft, And one

440
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 3: of those things was, and we talked about it after

441
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Speaker 3: the draft when we did our winners and losers, But

442
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Speaker 3: are the Sacramento Kings pursuing Draymond Green in free agency?

443
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 3: Hollinger broke it down. The Kings have a glaring need

444
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: at power forward. The King's need to improve a defense

445
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 3: which was still one of the worst in the league.

446
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 3: The Kings have a Warrior's obsessed owner who was formerly

447
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: a Golden State minority owner. The King's head coach was

448
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 3: the Warriors lead assistant till a year ago. Apparently Mike

449
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: Brown is the Draymond Green whisperer, and yeah, Draymond Green

450
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: is a free agent. Does all of this make some

451
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Speaker 3: sense to you? Tasked that the Kings would be pursuing

452
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Speaker 3: Draymond Green, And if they are and if they could

453
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Speaker 3: get them, do you even like the fit of him

454
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Speaker 3: in Sacramento?

455
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Speaker 1: Oh, the fit would be fantastic. I think they would

456
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Speaker 1: figure it out for him to be the power forward

457
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: slash the backup center which they were kind of reeling

458
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Speaker 1: with as well. Yeah, if you just look over at

459
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: the Warrior situation, yeah, Green could could be that guy.

460
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Speaker 1: I think they could figure it out. I wonder do

461
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: this Mike Brown whisperer stuff, like, I looked it up. Now,

462
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Speaker 1: how long has Mike Brown been with the Wars. It's

463
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: been a while, but they won their first championship when

464
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: Draymond was amazing without Mike Brown. So maybe is the

465
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: Draymond whisper? I don't know. I buy the Hollinger part

466
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: where yeah this fits perfectly and Hollander's smarter than us

467
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: because we were thinking, oh, that money that they got

468
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: off of by trading Rashaun Holmes on Draft Day maybe

469
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Speaker 1: could be filled by Kyle Kuzma. But this makes more sense,

470
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Speaker 1: just more of a defensive attitude. They didn't have a

471
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Speaker 1: problem with points. That's what Kuzma would really bring to

472
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Speaker 1: this team. And yeah, I think this was great the

473
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Speaker 1: relationship there with Brown. But at the same time.

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Speaker 3: You'll be spending a lot of money if you were

475
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Speaker 3: to try and get Draymond Green to the Kings. This

476
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: is the thing here, opening up all that room, what

477
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Speaker 3: gives them like thirty four to thirty five, thirty six

478
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: million dollars in cap space they could get to. It'd

479
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Speaker 3: be looking at a lot of that going to Draymond Green.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: A little worrisome. Yeah, but you think Draymond Green automatically

482
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Speaker 3: makes second round Kings like a championship contender.

483
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Speaker 1: Well you yeah, you'd think that when you spend it.

484
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, you'd think it's it's the intangible stuff, it's

485
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: the it's the attitude. But maybe they already had that.

486
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Speaker 1: They are, you know, a tough minded team. They are

487
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: of a team that is pretty damn resilient. But I

488
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: think this is all just happening because Draymond Green's being smart.

489
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Speaker 1: He likes these rumors. It's the leverage play really for

490
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Speaker 1: him with the Golden State Warriors, I mean, his head coach,

491
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 1: and Steve Kerr said, Hey, if we don't bring Draymond

492
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Speaker 1: Green back, we're not a championship team. That helps his

493
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Speaker 1: dollar value go up with the Golden State Warriors. Steve

494
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Speaker 1: curR is just on Draymond Green's podcast just now a

495
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. They're buds. And I think new

496
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Speaker 1: GM Mike Dunlevy's fresh faced in the in the GM

497
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Speaker 1: chair for the Golden State Warriors was broad in and

498
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Speaker 1: he made this move for Chris Paul. But I think

499
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Speaker 1: it would be wild to not pay what he needed

500
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Speaker 1: to to bring Draymond Green back. That would just be

501
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Speaker 1: astonishing to me that he wouldn't do that to bring

502
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Speaker 1: this thing back that Stephen Curry has asked for. He

503
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Speaker 1: has asked for Draymond Green to come back.

504
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Speaker 3: So so you think you're staying. You think it's wise

505
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Speaker 3: of the Kings to maybe make a move for a

506
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Speaker 3: Draymond Green, But you don't think it's happening.

507
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Speaker 1: I like the juice. I like this free agency juice here.

508
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: It's exciting as we go up to July first, when

509
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Speaker 1: when teams can start. But I think it would make sense.

510
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: You're you're, you don't buy it as much.

511
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Speaker 3: It seems like, well, no, look, I'm a little I

512
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 3: would be a little hesitant of Draymond Green and Sabonis

513
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Speaker 3: as my two bigs, two guys that are not stretching

514
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Speaker 3: the floor. That that worries me in today's NBA game

515
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 3: a little bit. Defensively, of course, he's gonna help my

516
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: god Like, even if they just made him like average,

517
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Speaker 3: how great would the Kings be? That would be amazing.

518
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: But sources tell Mark Stein that the popular current projection

519
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Speaker 3: for Green and the Warriors is a three year deal

520
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 3: and that it would basically be shocking if he doesn't

521
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Speaker 3: re sign with the Golden State Warriors. So Stein is saying,

522
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Speaker 3: what you're saying, task that, Yeah, Mike dun Leevey, especially

523
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Speaker 3: after the pool move to get off that money, is

524
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: going to be signing Draymond Green's just what's the number here?

525
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 3: It feels like whatever the number is, it's gonna suck

526
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: at the end. Sure, but the idea is right now,

527
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Speaker 3: if you're the Warriors, it's like, hey, we could still

528
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: maybe win a championship. Whether you agree with that or not,

529
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Speaker 3: that's for you to decide. Like, could this team with

530
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Speaker 3: all this, all these you know, dynasty guys a little

531
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Speaker 3: bit older but a little bit longer in the twos,

532
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Speaker 3: with some of the talent there on the bench, with

533
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Speaker 3: Chris Paul suddenly in here as a floor general running

534
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: the second Union? Is that a championship team? You can

535
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: they get by the Nuggets? Let's say. I don't know,

536
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: but that's what they would be thinking. He's gonna stay,

537
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 3: He's gonna stay. But I think it's gonna be a lot.

538
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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a hell of a contract, yeah,

539
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 3: because it's like one of these contracts too. It's like

540
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: a bit of a thank you contract, right. It's not like, oh,

541
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Speaker 3: you are a thirty three million dollar year player. I

542
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: don't think it's gonna be that much, but close to that,

543
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 3: it's gonna be close. It might be close that you're

544
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: not that type of player right now for eighty two games.

545
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: Maybe you are for sixteen games in the playoffs, but

546
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Speaker 3: it is like you've done a lot for us here?

547
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: Didn't you already receive a thank you contract? I don't know.

548
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: Is there a kid's riddle with a thank you you?

549
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: On a sight?

550
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 3: Uh? With kids? Why do I know the nursery ground?

551
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't even reciting when I said, you accidentally did well,

552
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: this guy is nimble and quick.

553
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: I mean you said it better. He said, this guy's nimble,

554
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: this guy's quick.

555
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: You're right, Well, this guy could replace Draymond Green, the

556
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: guy they'd just got in the draft, trace Jackson Davis.

557
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: That's bold, like the fifty seventh pick.

558
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Draymond Green's the second round pick. I mean that

559
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 1: on the horizon. Anyways, he's an old draft pick. He's

560
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: twenty three years of age. He seems like that same

561
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: type of guy. But I think that Draymond's going to

562
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: get paid all these all these smart moves here. You

563
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: know he's in Where was he in France with Lebron?

564
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean they're just talking business, rich Paul, how are

565
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: we going to milk this thing? And so I, yeah,

566
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: I assume he's coming back. Jordan Poole gone. It's all

567
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: about numbers here, But I think he would work great

568
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: with the Kinks. Yeah. Two non shooting bigs. The Warriors

569
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: made it happen. The Warriors made it work with Kevon

570
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Looney as their center and Draymond Green. There.

571
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: Warriors have Steph Curry and Klaytops.

572
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa, these guys can set some big screens, you know, Fox,

573
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: Fox Herder and Keegan Murray, who's a great outside shooter,

574
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: would figure it out. I think so. Yeah. I'm sure

575
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: they're talking.

576
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 3: Are any of these free agents gonna leave? James Harden

577
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 3: has a player option? Is he leaving the Sixers? Kyrie Irving,

578
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: it really feels like he is not leaving Dallas, Mavericks,

579
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: Chris Middleton, you know he opted out.

580
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: No chance he's staying.

581
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: He's probably staying in Milwaukee. I agree with that. Fred

582
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: Van Vliet, I think is the one now on this

583
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: list that you're like, is he going back to Toronto

584
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 3: on a you know, a three year, thirty million dollar

585
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: type deal or not? Is he going into space somewhere

586
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: on one of the teams that could bring him in.

587
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: Draymond Green just talked about Jeremy Grant. Feels like he's staying.

588
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: Brook Lopez m are the Bucks gonna bring the whole

589
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: team back, like the Warriors are doing Vucci baby Kuzma. Okay,

590
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: then we get into names where maybe maybe they're leaving.

591
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, dangel O Russell, Yeah, there's some Harrison Barnes, there

592
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: will be guys moving.

593
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: Final piece of news here Pallo Bancaro, number one pick

594
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty two NBA Draft. He is the

595
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: eleventh American pro to commit for Team USA and the

596
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 3: Feeble World Cup there in the Philippines. Now this is

597
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: interesting because he had said originally he was gonna play

598
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Speaker 3: for Italy. He has an Italian passport, and it sounded

599
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: like it was all but a done deal that he

600
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: was gonna represent them, and he has changed his mind.

601
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if this was Grant Hill and the

602
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: Dukie connection there or what, but he has decided he's

603
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: gonna play for Team USA. And now we have eleven guys.

604
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 3: Like like I said, here here's the team. The guards,

605
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Haliburton, Jalen Brunson, Austin Reeves, Forwards, ban

606
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: Caro Brandon Ingram Mikale Bridges, Cam Johnson he's a restricted

607
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: free agent, Bobby Portis and then the centers Jared Jackson

608
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: Junior and Walker Kessler. So there you go, Tess, are

609
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: you surprised by.

610
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: This though you have been research You've been wanting to

611
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: know who is filling out this ruck.

612
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: I love this stuff. I don't know why. Yeah, you

613
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: get CCLE for this stuff. Yeah, especially when it comes

614
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: to Team USA obviously, because you get into like, oh,

615
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: any of the OG guys gonna play guys that have

616
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: already because this team is short on national team experience.

617
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: Nobody's appeared for TMSA in a World Cup or the Olympics. None, none,

618
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: eleven guys I listed. Now there is a spot open,

619
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Speaker 3: So will that be somebody that has? I had forgotten

620
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: though that this is what Adam Silver wanted. I was

621
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: in the Athletic article that he suggested. I don't know

622
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: when it was. It was a while back, but he liked.

623
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: He like the idea of at least one of these

624
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: international phases here, either the World Cup or the Olympics.

625
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: That he said, we should do what sort of soccer

626
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: does where one of them we send like a young squad,

627
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 3: like a you know, a twenty three and under is

628
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: what sort of they do in soccer, right, But we

629
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: do that because we don't want the elite superstars of

630
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 3: our game to have to always go like basically every

631
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: two years to the World Cup and then the Olympics. The

632
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: World Cup in the Olympics. So if you did this

633
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: for the World Cup, send a younger team, you're obviously

634
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: growing that national team, and then the Olympics is the

635
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: bigger deal. You send maybe more of the stars, but

636
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: you're not asking for like such a commitment. I'd forgotten

637
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: me and said that, And this is my point is

638
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: is what they're doing here. This is super super young

639
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: team that I don't know, Like, it's an awesome team.

640
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: It's like got some depth. I'm excited to see it.

641
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: But is this going to be a favorite in the

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Speaker 3: World Cup. I don't know. I mean, I don't know

643
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Speaker 3: the rest of the rosters yet. We don't even know

644
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Speaker 3: some of the big names are playing, though we know

645
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Speaker 3: wemen Yama is not playing for friends.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, that's an interesting one in soccer. It's

647
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Speaker 1: it's the flip where in the Olympics, right, they keep

648
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Speaker 1: them young and the engaged. I'm not as engaged in

649
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Speaker 1: Olympic soccer, but obviously I'm engaged in World Cup soccer

650
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Speaker 1: because of the names. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know.

651
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Speaker 1: Was it a problem that Silver is sort of pointing

652
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Speaker 1: to where there was just a lack of commitments. I

653
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Speaker 1: don't I didn't find that really, you know what I mean?

654
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Speaker 3: Like the problem?

655
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah, so keep the camaraderie and they're good enough

656
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Speaker 1: that even if half your team shows up for like

657
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: the best of the best show up for one tournament,

658
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Speaker 1: and then that that half show up for another, you

659
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Speaker 1: should be expected to win. Still, but that's changing obviously.

660
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Speaker 1: You know, we we know the superstars, the international superstars

661
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Speaker 1: are MVPs here in the NBA, but it still doesn't

662
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Speaker 1: mean that the rest of their team are are going

663
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Speaker 1: to be able to knock off the US. I still

664
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Speaker 1: think they're the favorites. I don't even know the rest

665
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Speaker 1: of the ross. Well, that's the thing that we'll be

666
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Speaker 1: watching in Japan and Indonesia and the Philippines right in

667
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Speaker 1: late August and September. But who's going to get that

668
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Speaker 1: twelfth spot? I know you like to be detective.

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Speaker 3: Skis, Well, you know I gave you the roster. What

670
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Speaker 3: do they need? Is there any glaring you know hole

671
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Speaker 3: on that team? Is it a do you need another

672
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Speaker 3: big in international play? I don't know. You got Jaron

673
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Speaker 3: Jackson junior Walker Kessel. Obviously your defense is set. Ben

674
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Speaker 3: Carroll could play five at this level in all honesty,

675
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's.

676
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Speaker 1: A big, big dude.

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Speaker 3: Probably not. I don't know who it'll be. You tell us.

678
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a name out there that people are

679
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Speaker 3: like hoping gets on there. Look, I think they would

680
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Speaker 3: benefit from having, you know, a Kadi or a Lillard

681
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Speaker 3: or someone at that level. But I just don't think

682
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Speaker 3: they are going to be playing on this squad, on

683
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Speaker 3: this feeble World Cup and going over there. I think

684
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Speaker 3: that's more for the Olympics. The Ban Carol part is

685
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Speaker 3: interesting though. I saw some things like the Italians are

686
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Speaker 3: not happy you lied to us, but he's going with

687
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Speaker 3: TSA Joelle Embiid. I saw Windhors say this. He's still

688
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Speaker 3: deciding whether he's going to play in the twenty twenty

689
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Speaker 3: four Olympics for which team. He could play for US

690
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Speaker 3: and he could play for France. He holds a citizenship

691
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Speaker 3: in both, and he hasn't picked that weird.

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Speaker 1: And not Cameroon.

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Speaker 3: I guess not. Maybe, well, maybe they wouldn't even have

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Speaker 3: a team there. I think, Yeah, I guess Windhorse says,

695
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Speaker 3: both the US and France are quietly pitching embid On, like, yeah,

696
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Speaker 3: come play for US in twenty twenty four. He is

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Speaker 3: not playing in the World Cup embeid because he's getting

698
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Speaker 3: married in July. But I slipped it in there when

699
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Speaker 3: min Yama has decided to not play for France this

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Speaker 3: summer in the World Cup. He's going to instead focus

701
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Speaker 3: on getting ready for the rookie season and then and

702
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 3: then the Olympics in Paris, which is really right around

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Speaker 3: the corner. Are you surprised by that at all? Bummed

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Speaker 3: by it at all?

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Speaker 1: Spurs guy through to him already.

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Speaker 3: Well, he apparently all his decision, him and his team.

707
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Speaker 3: It wasn't the Spurs saying no, we don't want you

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Speaker 3: to go do that.

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Speaker 1: That guy smart, he knows what he wants and he

710
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Speaker 1: wants to take a summary, knows his body apparently, so

711
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Speaker 1: interesting stuff there, and uh yeah interesting. The Italians are

712
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: mad at Powell Bancaro. Trey's not here, So let me

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Speaker 1: say a line that Trey would say. Trey would say,

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Speaker 1: if you have the option to play for Team America

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Speaker 1: or your other team of choice of nationality, for good enough,

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Speaker 1: you play for America. That's what Trey would say. Real American,

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Speaker 1: it is the real American would say. Yeah, and I've

718
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Speaker 1: got American citizenship now. So I'm starting to feel as

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Speaker 1: bold and arrogant as our other fellow Americans.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Podcast Olympics coming up twenty twenty six hypothetical.

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Speaker 1: All right, I ain't good enough to play for Team America,

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Speaker 1: so you're going to Canada. Yeah, no, I'm sticking true.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you and me?

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Speaker 1: Right, well run it.

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Speaker 3: Why did I say that the podcast Olympics were in

726
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six? I'm not sure, but I wanted to

727
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: give them enough.

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Speaker 4: Time to get ready for You want to train to

729
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Speaker 4: get ready for it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, Well we're I guess we're like we're the

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Speaker 3: pillars of this team Canada podcast team. Oh yeah, well

732
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Speaker 3: who's Garden? Who who you taking? I guess you're guarding

733
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Speaker 3: Zach Low or something like that, one of those guys

734
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Speaker 3: to guard Kirby.

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Speaker 4: I got him.

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Speaker 3: Windhors. Final note on Webinama. He played sixty two games

737
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Speaker 3: this season for the Metropolitans ninety two in the French League.

738
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Speaker 3: They went to the finals, and then when you include

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Speaker 3: his first season with the Spurs, coming up and plans

740
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Speaker 3: for the Olympics. His team calculated Wemby was looking at

741
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Speaker 3: playing about one hundred and seventy games in a twenty

742
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Speaker 3: four month span. So this is a part of the

743
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Speaker 3: equation here of maybe why we sit out the World

744
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Cup that when you put it that way, because you

745
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 3: want to play in the Olympics, then sure, maybe a

746
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: little too much on that crazy seven three six body

747
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Speaker 3: whatever he is.

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Speaker 1: Last note, you said I'd be playing Zach Low. He's

749
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Speaker 1: actually changed his last name to Zach Dick. He dried.

750
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Speaker 1: Did you see him dress as uh as Grady Dick

751
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Speaker 1: NBA today?

752
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: So I did not get the reference. Yeah, wow, you're

753
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Speaker 3: telling me they dressed up Zach Low as Grady Dick

754
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Speaker 3: and I somehow didn't see this. When did this happen?

755
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Speaker 1: Friday? Oh my god, Friday on their draft recap show,

756
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: he came out and the Grady Dick right jacket, red

757
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: sequin jacket. Yeah he didn't. He had the shades, but

758
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: he didn't have a the the turtle. Did you also

759
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: see it's not a turtle neck. It's one of those

760
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: like fake foe whatever you call that. Yeah, Dickie, no way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he told me Grady Dick was wearing a Dicky draft.

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Speaker 1: Those things are called the dickey. Yeah, didn't even right,

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Speaker 1: aren't they?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm pretty sure, all right, if we're talking about

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00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: the same thing. It's like where it's just for the

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Speaker 3: top like it's.

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Speaker 1: It's not It wasn't even that big. So he was

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Speaker 1: able to open his blazer and see skin. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like ripe as. It was almost like a So this

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Speaker 1: thing he was.

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Speaker 3: Wearing, which we thought was a turtleneck, is just a

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Speaker 3: Dicky on dick turtle dick. Well did you see?

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Speaker 4: Makes sense? You wouldn't want sequence under that.

774
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Speaker 3: It would be so uncomfortable. Yeah, I mean I still

775
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: would have been uncomfortable, but he seemed okay with it.

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00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: No bunts TI in here. Did you see Grady Dick

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Speaker 3: at the J's game?

778
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Speaker 1: I did? Yeah, yeah, yeah I did.

779
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: What do you think howd that dickhead looked to you?

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was a little surprising. I

781
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: think the first Dick jersey we've seen now is a

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays Dick jersey. It's true, they gave him a

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Speaker 1: Dick jersey. Just trying to say that, yeah, that was

784
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Speaker 1: that was kind of surprising to you, it wasn't surprising

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Speaker 1: that he brought his shades the same shades. Yeah, he

786
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Speaker 1: likes he does at the Rogers Center hanging out, But

787
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Speaker 1: I like how the Blue Jays jumped on it. For sure.

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Speaker 3: Grady likes all the sports. Did you see the clips

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Speaker 3: of him at the Ovio Athletic Center, obviously the training

790
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: facility for the Raptors. He was just throwing around a

791
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 3: football all day. It's all he was doing. Didn't shoot.

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Speaker 3: I didn't see him shoot a single basketball, just throwing

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Speaker 3: around the football.

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Speaker 1: I love, no idea. What gotta do? A re edit

795
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Speaker 1: of our recent short on YouTube and all our social

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Speaker 1: media's basketball players who play football? Guess he plays football?

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Speaker 3: Yes he does. Guess he does. All right, let's take

798
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: our first break. When we come back, we are going

799
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Speaker 3: to draft the next face of the league. Don't go anywhere. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So a couple of things. One, if you're joining us

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Speaker 3: live on YouTube, hit that like button, make sure you subscribe.

802
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 3: If you're listening to the podcast, leave your boys at

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00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: five star rating and review wherever you download and listen

804
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: to No Dunks. The second thing is, were you at

805
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: a party where you had to take your shoes off?

806
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Was this an indoors Yeah, hence the socks. How do

807
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: you feel about that?

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00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, I said, I went to a party

809
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: because I was trying to be cool. I was at

810
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Speaker 1: a kid's indoor playground party.

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Speaker 3: It was a party.

812
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I was at this party. And then I saw the

813
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Speaker 1: same person the next day and she was asking me

814
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Speaker 1: about my MoMA's sode. Yeah. But actually the next day

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Speaker 1: sockless got caught in that crazy windstorm rainstorm house outdoors

816
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Speaker 1: for a sea. Yeah, it was nice. It's like ninety

817
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: degrees that, you know, twenty five celsius. Everybody's doing their

818
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Speaker 1: their water slides, these children's and then severe thunderstorm warning,

819
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Speaker 1: let's get inside so quick. I'm glad I wasn't wearing

820
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: my bomba sucks. That's a lot of dirt and mud

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Speaker 1: in between my toes. Great hosts, though, We just walked

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Speaker 1: in with our dirty feet.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's nice, not even wiping them on a

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Speaker 3: towel or anything.

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00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some wiping.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there's kids.

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Speaker 1: It's gross in there.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you're having a part of your house is gonna

829
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Speaker 3: get dirty. Yeah, which is why that was a topic

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Speaker 3: on Is this good? Was it not? Maybe? With Ariel

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Speaker 3: Hilani if I remember, Oh yeah, he's talking about wearing

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Speaker 3: shoes in the house because he's adamantly against it. Very again,

833
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: which is it is a very Canadian thing. You take

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Speaker 3: your shoes off at people's houses.

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Speaker 4: Well, ye, go in he's next level though, he's yeah,

836
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Speaker 4: he's a he's a an admitted germophobe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I believe you do take your shoes off

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00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: at somebody's house. I'm fine with that. I want you

839
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Speaker 3: to do the same in my house unless I'm having

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00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: a party. Okay, I'm having a party. I think shoes

841
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: stay on. Yeah, I think it's sometimes a part of

842
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: the outfit for people. It's it is a little awkward

843
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 3: in a way. There's like, you know, forty pairs of

844
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: shoes now by the door or whatever. It's just just

845
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: leave them on. It's a lot easier.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to only for a party, I totally agree. Okay, good,

848
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Speaker 1: I want to complete fit.

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: Although these socks are so good, I mean, maybe that's

850
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Speaker 3: the fit better than our shoes. That's nice, all right.

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00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: So let's get to this next topic. I actually put

852
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Speaker 3: the link in the show notes to this athletic article

853
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: debating the face of the league. Who's next? Because in

854
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: this article from our guys out the Athletic, a bunch

855
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: of them having some fun with this. From two thousand

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00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: and seven to twenty twenty, every NBA Finals featured Lebron,

857
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, or Kobe Bryant. That streak ended in twenty

858
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 3: twenty one. It didn't, you know, happen again this season

859
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 3: without one of them being in there, Curry obviously in

860
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. But it got them thinking who is

861
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: going to be the next face of the league, because

862
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: you tease it out the top task Lebron James, I mean,

863
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: who knows, he might play till he's eighty, but he

864
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: should be winding down soon here, once Brownie Junior gets

865
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 3: here and maybe plays a season or two, and then

866
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, you know, getting closer to forty, you know,

867
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: in five years at least. So once we hit that point,

868
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: because everybody's going to agree that Lebron and or Curry

869
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: are the face of the League's right, Yes, they still are,

870
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: they have been for a long time. But when those

871
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: guys are gone, who's next? And before we get into

872
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: drafting Tim Cato, they were trying to define what the

873
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 3: hell does face of the League mean? I thought he

874
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: had a good breakdown. He suggested there's three factors, success, spectacle,

875
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: and sort of a social omnipresence, the IT factor, if

876
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: you want to call it that. So you gotta have

877
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: you gotta win rings, you have to win to be

878
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: considered the face of the league. You have to frequently

879
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: create on court highlights or at least have a very

880
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: engaging style of play. And you got to be a

881
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: compelling figure that fans and the media want to discuss,

882
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: they want a debate. You have to be on those level.

883
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: I think that's right. That's how I look at the

884
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: face of the league.

885
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Totally right. That's why Tim Duncan was never the face

886
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: of the league.

887
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

888
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Much success, but he wasn't omni present, and he wasn't

889
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: didn't have the sexiest game.

890
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, not the most h Yeah, that's exactly right. Yet,

891
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 3: So let's do this. Let's draft five players each that

892
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: we think could own the face of the league label

893
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 3: five years from now ballpark, you know, four or five

894
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: years ago. Basically, let's not take Curry. Let's take him

895
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 3: out of the equation.

896
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could still be playing, Yeah, he's he'll be forty,

897
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: and the prior years build up your case, and so

898
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: Steph will probably still be it if he's playing, yes, yes,

899
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: like Lebron right now, right, even if he's not winning.

900
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: But let's take them off the point. Okay, it makes

901
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: it a little bit more fun.

902
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: So we'll go five guys each year. I actually think

903
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: this is really difficult. It is because we get into

904
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: the whole thing, and I know we'll debate it. Do

905
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: you do you do you need to be an American?

906
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Can you be an international player and be the face

907
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 3: of the league. You know, some guys I think that

908
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: will probably have in the mix right now at least

909
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: are a lot of like, oh, off court issues, let's say,

910
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: but let's get going. Here. You go first, who is

911
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 3: your first draft pick in the face of the league

912
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: label five years from now?

913
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: It's presumptuous, but I'm taking Victor Wembanyama. Okay, I'm going.

914
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 3: Going there right now. Eh.

915
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll build their teams here listen. And you can't

916
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: predict the success of a player, so it's unlikely he's

917
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: winning ship after ship in five years. But who the

918
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: heck knows? Number one and number two is it's so

919
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: difficult to brick. I just know that he is going

920
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: to have the game that transcends every barrier, the game

921
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: in the body. He's just so unique and he's got

922
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: the perfect game for today's NBA. That's the three point

923
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: shooting style. And yeah, it helps that he's different, his

924
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: size is different. The highlights will be there. There's no question.

925
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: He also has the desire to do the media. Yeah,

926
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: he's kicking it right now. You need to have that,

927
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: You need to want to be on uh everywhere. You

928
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: just have to have some adverts or some you know,

929
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: brand recognition, some some of that stuff, some marketing, and

930
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: he's got it.

931
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: He's smooth as butter.

932
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: When he does his mic.

933
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: He's charismatic.

934
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: He was there on draft night for hours and hours

935
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: and hours and even an hour three, an hour four,

936
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 1: cool as a freaking cucumber. Did you see him? Asked

937
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: about whether or not he had RIZ and he actually

938
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: he rolled with it, no problem. He said, oh yeah, riz.

939
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: That's the ability to pull females, as he says, pull females.

940
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: Not that I use it like he's already playing hard

941
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: to get. I mean, he's just so good on the mic.

942
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: He likes it, and so that's part of he has charisma.

943
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: He works the cameras and.

944
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not going to be the issue for him.

945
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm with you. Probably not the highlights either, It'll be

946
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: just the success the championships.

947
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, yeah, so I took that out when we

948
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: get into a bunch of other guys, like if you

949
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: could just say, well, what about Yokich, I mean, he

950
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: is winning. He's not going to be the face of

951
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: the league. I just highly doubt it. If you don't

952
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: want to have, you know, a brand sponsorship, you don't

953
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: want to do any sort of marketing, you don't like

954
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: the interviews, that is a third of the equation. I'm

955
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: totally with you. You gotta win, you got to have

956
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: a sexy type of game, and you gotta want to

957
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: have your face out there. It is about the social

958
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: media impressions. You just have to be out there. And

959
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: Victor Wobineb is great or mix has a great case

960
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: because he's already had a head start, like they were

961
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: shown his games on the end, yeah.

962
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: Right back to high school day.

963
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I think he's got he's got a

964
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: great case. But it's easy to take some of the

965
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 1: other guys.

966
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you you know, is it a reach

967
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: going number one? I would have wanted him on my team,

968
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: no doubt, But you went and got him just like

969
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 3: the Spurs did. So good on you. I'll go honest,

970
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: because the counter to Yiannis being or should being number

971
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: one in this is like, he already is one BA

972
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: really like he's already won a ring, He's already one MVP.

973
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: Well he he he might be one. He might be

974
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: I mean he'd only be like what thirty three, let's

975
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: say in five years, I mean still young, he'll still

976
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: be playing. Hypothetically, he could have a couple more titles.

977
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: He could have a couple more MVPs. He obviously like

978
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: checks all the other boxes. He is extremely charismatic and

979
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: in his his own weird way with his dad jokes,

980
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 3: and obviously has like shoe endorsements and all his other stuff.

981
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: So I'm going, y, honis, there's not much more to say.

982
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 3: He's knocking on the door of it already.

983
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

984
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: It's sort of like those guys get out of the

985
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: way and it could be his. So I will go

986
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: y honest. Yeah, so we're both taking international guys here.

987
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: One two, Yeah, and I don't buy the argument that

988
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: an international guy can't do it. I don't. I don't

989
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: buy it. I think if Jokich wanted to be it,

990
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: it could be him. But he doesn't have the personal

991
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't want it, he doesn't want to

992
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: do it. What's your hesitation?

993
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 3: I push back on that because I'm trying to think

994
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 3: of one.

995
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we haven't had one. I mean even like

996
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: we haven't.

997
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: It's like, was a chem Elijah on the face of

998
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: the league when Jordan was gone. I guess he maybe

999
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: was for a very short window.

1000
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: Jordan was still looming. I know, I know he was

1001
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: still young. That the story was maybe he's coming back.

1002
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah so, and it was Jordan. But we

1003
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: haven't had one. But we haven't had this amount of

1004
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: international success quite yet. It was tough to not take Janni's.

1005
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: But I think Webbin Yama has this incredible head start

1006
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: where he is so eloquent out the gate. He's nineteen,

1007
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: He's we had no idea what he's going to be.

1008
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: He's got to start in the sense of rings and

1009
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 3: MVPs like me that that probably is the more difficult part. Honest,

1010
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: you're right, you're right.

1011
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, and it took time for Lebron

1012
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: to get there as well. So yeah, during that time,

1013
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: it was Kobe is the face of the league. But

1014
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: you're right, we haven't had a non American quite yet,

1015
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: so it's it's a fair question.

1016
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 3: So who do you go with your next pick.

1017
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Luka Doncic. Yeah, I think he's got

1018
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: enough of the the benchmarks and people will say, yeah,

1019
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: you can't miss the playoffs and be a face of

1020
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, but he's only been in the league

1021
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: for five years. He has reached the conference finals, he

1022
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: has showed he can carry a team. So the ring's

1023
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: got to be there. That's that's the Yeah, that's the

1024
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: toughest part. Wanting to be on social media. Yeah you

1025
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: can do that, having the game and the wins have

1026
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: to come and yeah, so yeah, honest would have would

1027
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: have definitely been my one A pick. But I'll go Luca.

1028
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Luca definitely going in the athletics version of this

1029
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: draft pretty or it all makes sense and he needs

1030
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,919
Speaker 3: he needs to sort of do all of these things

1031
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: because he doesn't have any of it yet.

1032
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: Right.

1033
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: Obviously, the ring obviously not an MVP. You know he's

1034
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: you're not worried about, like the way he plays. The

1035
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: highlights are there enough for you? Obviously not a high flyer,

1036
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 3: but he's like a game winner type guy, obviously incredible passer.

1037
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 3: I think they're there unique enough.

1038
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, Yeah everybody. I mean, he makes highlights,

1039
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: they're outside three ball bombs. Is the on court demeanor

1040
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: with referees? A problem is does that hurt his candidacy? Maybe?

1041
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think he's charismatic enough.

1042
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: I Mean, the issue with him in drafting here the

1043
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 3: face of the league is like is he too Jokic?

1044
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 3: Like does he really care about that at all? Does

1045
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: he want to be that and all that comes with that?

1046
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. Yeah, that would be my one

1047
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: issue with him. That part. It gets tall right away here.

1048
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 3: I struggle with Tatum. I don't know how I feel

1049
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 3: about it.

1050
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1051
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 3: On one hand, he's got the American card. This would

1052
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: be our first American player here. Obviously an incredible player,

1053
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 3: a lot of success short of a ring, he's been

1054
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: knocking on the door. Let's say, of an MVP. Why

1055
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: couldn't he get one or two of those. I guess

1056
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: I gotta take him. But I'm trying to talk myself

1057
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 3: out of it because there's just something missing. There's something.

1058
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: It's that in factor for me. I don't know why,

1059
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 3: but I'm not sure he will ever be, by himself

1060
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 3: the lone face of the league. I don't know why.

1061
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm struggling to explain.

1062
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Sure my feelings about it. Yeah, maybe if he grows

1063
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: into being a champion, that it factor comes along with Sure. Sure,

1064
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more swagger. We saw himself say

1065
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: humbly speaking, I'm one of the best players in the

1066
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: world when he went for his fifty point game there

1067
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: against the Sixers. Right, I think a little bit more

1068
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: of that charismatic bravado.

1069
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah the Kobe.

1070
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah once once he wins, Yeah, will come out Okay, Okay,

1071
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: but there's some holes. Yeah, he's as the article writes there,

1072
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 1: he's eighteenth in the league and Instagram followers that ain't

1073
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: good enough. Okay, but yeah, it's he's still young enough.

1074
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: But it has to happen at some point Soonish.

1075
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna loan Tatum, our guy Jerome help

1076
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: him work on some social media content, get followers up,

1077
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: get the numbers going really latch onto the American public

1078
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 3: and the international basketball fans too. But I gotta take Tatum.

1079
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna overthink it. All Right, you're up, You're

1080
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: up next here.

1081
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: A controversial one. I'm sure I'm going with Jahn Morant.

1082
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I think that's fine.

1083
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, because pre all of these issues that he's had

1084
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: on the court or off the court, I should say

1085
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: on the court, he was destined for this journey if

1086
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: he was able to win. He's got the person It's

1087
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: a little like a I who wasn't necessarily a face

1088
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: of the league, but yeah, yeah, I would. I would

1089
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: say he was sort of a you know, an alternate

1090
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: face of the league during like the Shaq Kobe years.

1091
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's there's guys like Iverson Vince, but there's

1092
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: always Kobe and Shaq that were there, so they were

1093
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 3: never the face.

1094
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: And Iverson didn't win. So RAN's got to win. He's

1095
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: got to have this this redemption arc I think would

1096
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: be would be good, yes, and and hopefully he achieves

1097
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: it because he's got the game. I think he's got

1098
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: the personality. You know, he's he he likes to be silly,

1099
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: and I think he's got the Q rating as it

1100
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: as people say, so I think he could do it.

1101
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: Do I see your jam Morant with the Zion.

1102
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I think I have to because I don't

1103
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: want to take Zion. Yeah, but it's a similar case.

1104
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was saying. We were leading into this, like,

1105
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: oh there's some names here. It's like right now, Oh,

1106
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: you wouldn't tomorrow face the league. No, of course not.

1107
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: But come on, we're talking four or five years here,

1108
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 3: Jamran and Zion. I think still have to be in play.

1109
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 3: So I'll take Zion Williamson. Like when he plays. We

1110
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 3: always forget this because it's unfortunately a little too uh

1111
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: in frequent right now. But when he plays, the guy's

1112
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: like twenty seven and ten. Basically we know he's got

1113
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 3: the highlights. I'd like to see some more in that regard.

1114
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: Need some We need him to lose some weight, you know,

1115
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: need him to just stay healthy. But yeah, of course,

1116
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: of course he could be flirting with MVPs and if

1117
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 3: he's on the right team and blah blah blah blah blah,

1118
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 3: Zion give me him all right? Two more picks each.

1119
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: I don't think this will ever happen, but I'm taking yokic.

1120
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay, make the case, make the case.

1121
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Ilayed him earlier. Yeah, listen, all the guy is missing

1122
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: is wanting to do a little media. That's all he's

1123
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: really missing, a little bit, like Okay, So how do

1124
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: you make it happen? The first marketing opportunity has just

1125
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: got to be something he likes. Let's let's start easy.

1126
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: Get him on a damn horse and record him filming

1127
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: for three hours or something like. There has to be

1128
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 1: there has to be something where you show. He showed

1129
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: his personality plenty of times on the mic. He just

1130
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it. They win the championship, you know,

1131
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: he tells Denver, you may you may think that I

1132
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to be here, but this is one of

1133
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: the best days of my life. And it's in there.

1134
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: It's in there, and maybe Denver's a good spot to

1135
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: get it out of him where he's not in a

1136
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: huge market. And yeah, it's that's that's always missing. I

1137
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: think this the championships obviously it's important. He's got to

1138
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: keep winning, you know, listen, he could and and that

1139
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: he may be thrust upon us as face of the league.

1140
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: If he does continue to win, he's got to win,

1141
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: you know whatether it's like three out of the four

1142
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: years or something something, you know, pretty significant here.

1143
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: Right, But you know he needs a foil though too.

1144
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 3: He needs embiid to meet him in finals. Because I

1145
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 3: look at it like this, Yokich could be the Larry

1146
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 3: Bird and he needs a magic and Larry had the

1147
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: more like he was an SOB, you know, And I

1148
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: don't think Yokic just like he doesn't care about it

1149
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 3: like that in that sense, like we're he just gonna

1150
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: talk that game, you know, Larry Bird all the infamous

1151
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: stories of like I'm gonna beat you with my left hand.

1152
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna you know who's coming in second in this

1153
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 3: three point contests? Like they differ there, but it's not

1154
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 3: like Larry Bird. I feel like was like, put me

1155
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: in front of every mic now and you know, let me,

1156
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 3: you know, sell everything I can, like a different time

1157
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: and all that I get. But Bird had magic and

1158
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: that helped the both of them, and they were both

1159
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: the faces of the league. Yeah, and sort of saving

1160
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: the league until Jordan comes along. Yokich I think he

1161
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: would benefit from having that foil. Yeah, so if it

1162
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 3: was like, you know, be awesome, I it was an

1163
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: elite big man, if it was like an embid and

1164
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: stuff like that. But I'm with you to have Yokich

1165
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: still d here because like he could just fall into

1166
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: this by default because they become a dynasty and he

1167
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: wins another MVP or two and then we're looking at

1168
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 3: just like like incredible achievements.

1169
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. The argument against him is that Tim Duncan was

1170
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: not in the face of the league. He was dynastic.

1171
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: But yeah, but on the other hand, Yokic does show

1172
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: more personality. I do think his game is a little

1173
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot fancier than yeah, than Tim Duncans. Yeah, the

1174
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: foil would help it, definitely. It wouldn't hurt, that's for sure. Yeah,

1175
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: Larry Bird's a different time where the league needed saving.

1176
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: The league doesn't need saving now, so it's it's kind

1177
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: of a different time. But it's hard to draft a

1178
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: big man too. Big men just it's not as sexy

1179
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: to be face of the league.

1180
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: But you know, unless they're freaks like.

1181
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, or even you know, like Lebron you know, borderline. Yeah,

1182
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: you just got to win and be sexy enough, all right.

1183
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 3: For my next pick here, let me ask you. Can

1184
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: can a Canadian ever.

1185
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: Be the face of that great question?

1186
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 3: Can I take SGA or as that too? Is that

1187
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 3: a reader? No?

1188
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: Why that doesn't matter? Do you think? Do you think

1189
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: like I think it does matter? Really?

1190
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got two Americans on my squad here. Yeah,

1191
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 3: I think it does.

1192
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: But as a Canadian, I think Canadian is different than

1193
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: a European player. I do think because I think Americans,

1194
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: I'd say Americans don't even know he's Canadian. Basketball fans

1195
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: don't even know he's Canadian. I'm guessing this is a random,

1196
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: random guess. Okay, that's low low.

1197
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: I think people will assume he's American.

1198
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think, I think so.

1199
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 3: I mean, it's cool, ast shit. I'll give him that.

1200
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: He should be lannel like us other Canadians.

1201
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 4: You started with, yeahs, I mean he's a Greek guy, Shay,

1202
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 4: he's probably lived here more than almost half his life anyway,

1203
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 4: with college and all that.

1204
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: You disrespect the hammer Hamilton, Ontario, Give me ask, give

1205
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: me ask you because obviously he's already an All NBA player.

1206
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't know why he's going to get worse over

1207
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 3: the next four or five years, he should be in

1208
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: the conversation of m vps. He scores enough to be

1209
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: in an MVP conversation already. He would need more team success.

1210
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: We think that's right around the corner for the squad.

1211
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: He's cool. There's no doubt he has a cool factor.

1212
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 3: He just has that. So yes, I'll take SGA. I'll

1213
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: play the homework card. I probably could have let him

1214
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: slip to my final pick. I feel like you wouldn't

1215
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 3: have taken him. But give me shake, Gildes Alexander. Here's

1216
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: a tease. I'm gonna be showing off a great custom

1217
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: made SGA jersey in summer league. I'm saving it for

1218
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 3: summer league.

1219
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, customer, as in, you made it?

1220
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I didn't make it.

1221
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I would just want sick. Yeah, I think

1222
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: I know which one. Oh yeah, yeah, you're you're right.

1223
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't take him, and he wasn't taken in

1224
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: this article. I don't know.

1225
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 3: Now they only went well, they had three people drafting

1226
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: just their top three. But you're right, he didn't. He

1227
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: didn't get selected. He was overlooked.

1228
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: He was overlooked. Yeah, I don't think it matters that

1229
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: He's Canadian, so I think that's a good pick. He

1230
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: does have many of the factors. I know you've written down.

1231
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: Our teams can give me the four that I have.

1232
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 3: Because task right now for the next face of the league.

1233
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: Test right now for the next face of the league.

1234
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: Has wemen Yama, Luca Ja Morant and Jokic just falling

1235
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: into it. He doesn't want it, but he would just

1236
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 3: fall into it. I've got Giannis, Tatum, Zion and Sga.

1237
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: I'll go with Anthony Edwards. That's my last pick.

1238
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: You I should have taken him at fourth.

1239
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: Nice much charisma, high on the RIZ rating scale. So yeah,

1240
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: just the wins, that's that's the biggest part. Yeah, no

1241
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: more off court mess ups because he had he did

1242
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 1: have one last year, which I think could could hurt

1243
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: everybody here. But I think he's got it. He's got

1244
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: everything you need and yeah, plenty of the the marketability,

1245
01:00:55,440 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: loves being on camera, loves talking, very quotatious. The winning

1246
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: is a difficult part for everybody, but in Minnesota, you

1247
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 1: know it's it's not gonna be easy.

1248
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: You would be helped out with that pick. If he

1249
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: has like an elite incredible feeble world Cup. I know

1250
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 3: some people don't care here Stateside, but like if he

1251
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 3: was the leader of that team, you know, like leading

1252
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 3: them and scoring game winner, leading them to success there,

1253
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: which he could be. I think there's an opening for

1254
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: him to be one of the best players on that team,

1255
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 3: or sort of like the alpha male on that team.

1256
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 3: I like Dad Anthony Edward's pick. I'm down to a

1257
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: couple names. Devin Booker I think has to be considered here.

1258
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 3: Like Tatum, though, there's just something that I don't think

1259
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: enough people like about those guys. I'm not sure what

1260
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: it is. I like him. I mean I like Booker

1261
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: more than Tatum, maybe just because I was like team

1262
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: Booker way back when he played on a shitty team.

1263
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: Everybody thought he was over raided and stuff like that.

1264
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: But I got Devin Booker, I got scooted Wow at

1265
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson. And then if you look back at the

1266
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: last couple of drafts we've had, like the players going high,

1267
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: it's like Pallo, maybe Scottie Barnes, like Caid Like I

1268
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: feel like, no, no, no on those three right now.

1269
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 3: I think the other two that I brought up, Booker

1270
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 3: or Scoot are more likely. What's your opinion on that.

1271
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the hardest part is being an incredible player. So

1272
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: Booker is already, yeah, one of the best guards in

1273
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: the league, and I think he's he does enough off court,

1274
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: so he is the guy who's overlooked. Maybe he's a

1275
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: little you know, people would say it's too cool, but

1276
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: he's cool.

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Speaker 3: I'm going Booker. I'll take Booker here. Yeah, I'll complete

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Speaker 3: my team with Devin Booker because you said it there,

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Speaker 3: he's already elite and like I keep forgetting in a

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Speaker 3: sense that like you gotta win rings here, Yeah, you

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01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 3: gotta probably be winning MVPs or damn near close to

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Speaker 3: be and you need to be obviously like have that infector.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll go. I'll go Devin Booker.

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Speaker 1: And being a face of the league is just extremely

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Speaker 1: hard and extremely rare.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know we've mentioned ten guys. There can only be

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Speaker 1: one and sort of two at the same time. Lebron

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Speaker 1: and Curry can share it. Those have been the two

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Speaker 1: guys for the last decade plus. Before it was Kobe,

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Speaker 1: I'd say, and then you get into an air Jordan,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a shack zone.

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Speaker 3: I don't really think so.

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Speaker 1: But before Kobe was when they won those three titles.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't Kobe's was still.

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Speaker 3: Playing when they were winning those titles. Yes, he still

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Speaker 3: held the mantle.

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Speaker 1: He was super old.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like Lebron now, really, I mean, he

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Speaker 3: wasn't having as much success team wise in Washington as

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Speaker 3: Lebron has later on in his career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was this, he was like Jordan. He was

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Speaker 1: able to retire. It's just you lose, You lose the

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Speaker 1: luster when you start talking about the second retirement and

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Speaker 1: the Wizards days that people all want to forget. So

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Speaker 1: was he. I mean, that was a transitional period where

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Speaker 1: Vince could have taken the mantle, but it didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: But your point stands since basically nineteen eighty, Let's say,

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Speaker 3: how many guys Magic Bird, Jordan, Kobe. You maybe want

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Speaker 3: to throw in in a chem when Jordan's out, maybe

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Speaker 3: you throw in a shack Ear or two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then iverson as a peripheral guy but.

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Speaker 3: Not never winning it, and then Lebron and Curry.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: That's it since the eighties. All right, So our teams

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Speaker 3: in trying to draft the next face of the league

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Speaker 3: five years from now, when Lebron's done, when Curry's done,

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Speaker 3: and some of these other guys that you would maybe

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Speaker 3: consider are probably too old, like Kevin Durant, stuff like that, Tascos,

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Speaker 3: Webb Yama with the number one pick, he's got, Luca

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Speaker 3: Ja Morant, Jokic.

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Speaker 1: And your fifth pick Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 3: I went with Giannis Tatum, Zion Williamson, Shay Gildos, Alexander

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Speaker 3: and Devin Booker, and I left Scoot on the board,

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Speaker 3: or we left Scoot on the board and anyone else,

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Speaker 3: so we maybe are overlooking.

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Speaker 1: It's funny never bringing up Kevin Durant at all. He'll

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Speaker 1: be too old.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he'll be too old.

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Speaker 1: But by then, now that that next superstar to be

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe perhaps that gets drafted. But I think there's a

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Speaker 1: small chance for a guy like cad I no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: right now, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a possibility. All right, you tell

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Speaker 3: us fun stuff again. That link to that article from

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Speaker 3: the guys at the Athletic. It's right there in the

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Speaker 3: show notes. Highly encourage you to go read that. It

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01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun and inspired this fun topic here.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's get to tweeted the.

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Speaker 1: Night tweet O the Night, Wow.

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Speaker 3: Tweet of the night and keep it simple. It's from

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Speaker 3: Victor wem and Yama at vic w Underscore thirty two.

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01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 3: That's the Twitter handle. Couldn't ask for better role models

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01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: and it is a pick of wem and Yama along

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01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: with Sean Elliott, David Robinson managing Nobly, and Tim Duncan

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01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: and a lot of people love this photo not because

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01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 3: it gets your right in the fields. You know something

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01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 3: great about this right, like what a franchise like he

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,479
Speaker 3: just gets there, got all the hype in the world

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01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: and here he is with all these legends of the

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01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 3: franchise having a dinner, but him towering over David Robinson especially.

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 3: It's unreal. Wasn't David Robinson seven foot.

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: One was past tense. I think he's shrunk.

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01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,479
Speaker 3: I think he's shrunk. Or Wemen Yama really is seven

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01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 3: foot five or six or something. Whatever, Man, this is

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01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 3: it looks crazy.

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01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: It does look crazy because it's not a visual effect

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01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: here where Wembenyama is in the foreground, He's just he's

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01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: the four bricks. You can count it because they're against

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01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: a brick wheel like literally or bricks.

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Speaker 3: Well, even Tim Duncan's in the foreground a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: And you know he's not he's not towering.

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01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got left, right, we got on one Bama, Robinson,

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: Manu and Duncan. How did this happen? They got together, Yeah.

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01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 3: Made it happen. It's like, it's amazing. We we cropped

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01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: it out. But you nobly was wearing some what do

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01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: you call them? Capri pants? What are what are those called?

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01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: Like the short pants?

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01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: Caprice?

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01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: Caprice? Yeah? Remember they had a moment. I felt like

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01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: I had a pair of bring on the back.

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need something for your Yeah, no doubt.

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 3: Some pre pants and some loafers.

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: Hi does a pant have to be for it to

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: be a capri? Well, that's like the ankle thing.

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01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 3: Is like mid cat Yeah, but it's higher. Yeah, because

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01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 3: you're right, short pants, that's a look, that's a that's

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 3: for sure a fashion style. But the capri was like

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01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: it was almost like it was perfectly between a short

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01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 3: and pants. It made a great juice box too.

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: Saw those while I was partying.

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01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're raging.

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: I normally I don't care about what people do post basketball,

1385
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: but still interested in what Tim Duncan's.

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01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 3: Did He's just cool as.

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: Was it like that in the league.

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01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: He would have been the face of the league.

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01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: It was all businesses faces right now if you're not

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01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: joining us on YouTube. Just got the looks like braids

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01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: tied back with some sort of bandana.

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01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: He looks cool. Beards, very cool.

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01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't tell how the Duncan and Howard were

1394
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 4: the first two NBA players I saw in person, like

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01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 4: in wherever we were Arizona.

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01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim Duncan and Dwight Howard.

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01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, they were like Superman. But they're like you

1398
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 4: just don't until you see your next to them, You

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 4: just don't.

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: You don't know.

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01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: It's it's so true. I mean Shaq was like that

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: for us. We were finally around him. I mean this

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: is post is playing days.

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you mean physically or just his his aura, both,

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01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: but physically him, Dwight Howard and Dwight Howard with the

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01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: shoulders like peak how Dwight Howard. It was just like

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01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: it looked like superheroes.

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 4: It was Greaty and you and they're in a sea

1409
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 4: of regular people. That's the thing. Like they're just like

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 4: they come up to their regular people, come up to

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01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 4: their tits. That's it, you know, and then they're just

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 4: it was amazing and I can't wait to see women

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 4: Yanna in person if we ever do, like just crazy.

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: Speaking of Duncan's tits, you can you can see him

1415
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: poking a little bit. He's it's changed a little bit.

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: And because he's relaxed, they're called pex man. Yeah they're not.

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01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: Actually I'm I'm exaggerating. They all look good, man, they

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01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: all look good.

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 3: I've said this before, but yeah, when we saw I

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01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 3: always think of Paugus Saul and LaMarcus Aldridge. And maybe

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: it's because I never thought of them as like that big,

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 3: like that tall, but yeah, at All Star Weekend and them,

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: I've compared them to like the War of the World's Robots. Yeah,

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01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 3: like that's how they were like moving through the crowd,

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01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: these long, just slow steps and this holy crap, and

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01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 3: these guys aren't even the biggest guys. Yeah, that's it's

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01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 3: tough for you to wrap your head around. Yeah. You

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01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 3: got to see a Wembin Yama up close, maybe Summer

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01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 3: week Yeah, I.

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01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: Think that is part of it, how they move. Like

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 4: because Dirk, when you see him, he's appropriately tall, because

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 4: he never really he always seemed to like run around

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 4: like a tall guy, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 4: So when I saw him, I was just like, okay,

1435
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 4: yes it's there.

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 3: Well, well you brought up Dwight. Think about that the

1437
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,599
Speaker 3: guy you saw, the specimen you saw and that guy

1438
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 3: can jump, you know, has a forty inch for.

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01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, what insane?

1440
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's crazy. All right, let's call it there,

1441
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 3: fun show guys, little Monday podcast for you. If you

1442
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,679
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1445
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 3: but obviously free agency right around the corner. The rumors

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Speaker 4: Have we locked that in JD Well, we're gonna record it. Okay,

1451
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Speaker 4: we're gonna record it and then we'll drop it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: Just you gotta subscribe, it'll drop, it'll appear in your

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Speaker 4: feet and you'll be happy.

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Speaker 3: There you go, and there's a new is this good up? Yeah,

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01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 3: totally forgot to tell you that off the top of

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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: the show. But go check out. Is this good? Noah Garfinkle, Okay,

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01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 3: good podcast, you said when I got in this morning.

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01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't happy with the sound quality, but what

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01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 4: are you gonna do?

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01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 3: I don't know the humor more than mix up for it,

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01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: I assume absolutely. Okay, go check out is this good?

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Speaker 3: We'll see you when we see you. Until then, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 2: Love you guys, awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. And remember, if you're going to

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Speaker 1: look for Victor Wembina's tweet that we mentioned, he isn't verified,

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01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 1: so don't be alarmed. That is him. It was him. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: he's cool. He's not verified. That's cool. Although Elon's gonna

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Speaker 1: just give it to him anyway. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Probably prolastic Embrace the day people,