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Speaker 1: Dirty burns. What's up and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxbyuse. I'm your host, Will McFadden.

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Speaker 1: I am joined as always by Tarren Walk and we

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Speaker 1: have a very special guest, cornerback Bark Phillips is joining

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Speaker 1: us for today's episode. Clark. We're wrapped up with the preseason.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that's left is the regular season. Man,

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Speaker 1: How does it feel to be right here on the doorstep? Man?

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Speaker 2: It's a blessing, you know, second time around. I'm just

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Speaker 2: grateful to be with the guys again and you know,

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Speaker 2: excited for us to come.

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Speaker 1: So there's a reason that you're sitting here in this

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Speaker 1: podcast studio with us today. We have all throughout training

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Speaker 1: camp been in here after practice to kind of recap

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Speaker 1: things how it went. As you know, no fans out there, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: so we wanted to basically name for them the player

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Speaker 1: that we felt had the best practice. At the end

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Speaker 1: of each show, we called it the camp Champ. You

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Speaker 1: are the Camp Champ for twenty twenty four Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: Training Camp in honor.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got you something something. This is very official.

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Speaker 3: Oh, look at that. I love it. I appreciate it,

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Speaker 3: especially down in the basement, on my on my top level,

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Speaker 3: by my helmet, by.

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Speaker 4: Thanking in a dark corner in the basement.

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Speaker 3: Finish.

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Speaker 1: So your reaction to that, do you feel like it

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Speaker 1: like you earned Camp Champ this year? You a little surprised?

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Speaker 1: You feel like anybody you know gave you a good

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Speaker 1: run out there on the field, like, yeah, or did

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Speaker 1: you run away with it? I had no idea this

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Speaker 1: was going on, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's a blessing and I'm grateful for it. But

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Speaker 2: I will say that everybody was out there working, you know,

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Speaker 2: as you guys know, we were competing the whole second there.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we were all competing every single day.

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Speaker 2: Me and Mike in particularly, like we went at it.

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Speaker 2: We were battling, and you know, having a guy that's

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Speaker 2: been in the league that long, you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: working with me every single day, showing me things that

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, and me and him obviously going on

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Speaker 2: and making plays. I felt like, yeah, definitely deserved, but

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful for it.

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Speaker 3: Definitely earned.

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Speaker 4: When you think back now that this training camp is over,

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Speaker 4: how different was it compared to last year, a lot different.

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Speaker 3: Everything's different, you know. The second time around.

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Speaker 2: I'd say, like just kind of having a comfort level

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Speaker 2: with being in the NFL, you know, and all that

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Speaker 2: stuff was all new last year. And then also coming

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Speaker 2: in and not being not feeling like you're behind eight ball,

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Speaker 2: just meeting the staff when there's already been guys with

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Speaker 2: the staff, like getting drafted obviously, and so this year

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Speaker 2: it felt like, okay, now we're all we all came

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Speaker 2: in together, all met the staff around the same time,

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Speaker 2: and you know, then we go out there and compete

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Speaker 2: and we have a good time. And as you guys know,

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Speaker 2: one of the toughest days for NFL teams was last

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Speaker 2: It was last night. Yeah, so you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: take it for granted at all. You know, seeing a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys go being in this room.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you had to maybe prove yourself more

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Speaker 4: last year or this year?

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Speaker 3: I would say, Oh, that's a great question.

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Speaker 2: I would say last year I was proven that I

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Speaker 2: belong right, you know, proven that okay, I can play nickel,

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Speaker 2: play corner and do whatever the team needs. This year,

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Speaker 2: I was more so in the sense of trying to

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Speaker 2: prove that I'm the guy, and so I would.

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Speaker 3: Say there's two sides to it.

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Speaker 2: But for me, this year was trying to prove that, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm a guy that they can count on the play

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Speaker 2: a lot of snaps.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious maybe, and if you have to think about

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Speaker 1: this for a second, by all means, but is there

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Speaker 1: a moment or a play when you think back on

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Speaker 1: training camp in the preseason that you say, you know,

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Speaker 1: year two, Clark Phillips makes this play, Year one, Clark Phillips,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not so sure about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it all comes down to confidence. It

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Speaker 2: like toime on task to get you there. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you're taking you know, if you're taking it serious.

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Speaker 2: And so last year I had a lot of plays

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Speaker 2: those maybe a pbu's. But this year, you know, I

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Speaker 2: camp I had four interceptions and so that was kind

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Speaker 4: Look at you having that four ready to go and

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Speaker 4: be like, yep, I have four interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know this. You know how

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Speaker 2: this game is, like, it's all about whatever you've done.

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Speaker 1: You know. So I've heard about kind of a I

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Speaker 1: guess a points system within the secondary throughout training camp.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how can you explain a little bit about

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Speaker 1: how that works between you guys.

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Speaker 2: So it's like a it's a if you're talking, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about the same thing. It's some production. It's based

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Speaker 2: off the production with the plays, like I said, the

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Speaker 2: plays that you're making, the tackles, the punch outs. We

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Speaker 2: count everything because the name of the game is taking

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Speaker 2: the ball away, right, you know, it's all about the

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Speaker 2: try to keep it consistent in our room and we

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Speaker 2: make it a little competition every single day at the

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Speaker 2: end of the day and we tally who you know,

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Speaker 2: is getting.

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Speaker 3: Punch outs, who's getting pbu's, who's picking the.

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Speaker 2: Ball off, and all of that, you know, at the

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Speaker 2: see that everybody. It's all in the white board. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: seeing those numbers, like, Okay, that guy must have been

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Speaker 4: Where'd you fall in that pecking order?

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Speaker 3: I'll say I was I was up there. I was

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Speaker 3: up there. I was up there. You know. I'll let

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Speaker 3: somebody else say what rank that was? What I was

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Speaker 1: The punch outs is an interesting I know how important

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Speaker 1: that is, especially like in the secondary is is there

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Speaker 1: a king of the punch out on the in.

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Speaker 3: The group there?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't, you don't really know. I think

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Speaker 2: the punch out was worth like three three points or something.

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Speaker 1: And then somebody really good at him, like amongst all

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Speaker 1: of you guys, or is it you know everybody can JB?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and come to think of a JB

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Speaker 2: AJ bothos dudes every single time that they're that the

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Speaker 2: guys making a tackle. They're coming in late. And JB

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Speaker 2: got seen it last year during the season he had

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Speaker 2: what maybe two force fumbles or something like that, And

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Speaker 3: Really really late, and he's good and really really accurate

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Speaker 4: Teammates kidding on each other.

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Speaker 2: I think I got one this this uh this China

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Speaker 2: camp one or two? Sorry, you got the four picks? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It wasn't one of those, like a really big one

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Speaker 2: I think it was Drake or Darnell Mooney, one of

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Speaker 4: And then it was Darnell because I remember him and

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Speaker 4: Kirk been talking it through later this is how it

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Speaker 4: you were right there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I took it man. Yeah that was a

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Speaker 2: That was a good route by him. Uh, pretty good throw.

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Speaker 2: He threw it to the sideline, the pie line. But

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Speaker 2: take calculated risk, and I felt like I was in

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Speaker 3: I was in a good position.

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Speaker 2: With Mooney on my outside hip, but I felt like

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Speaker 1: We all know how good of a player Jesse Bates is. Right,

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Speaker 1: What did you guys have to say to him after

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Speaker 1: he let Charlie Warner catch that touchdown against him? At

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Speaker 1: that was maybe my favorite moment from training camp. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, that was crazy, was the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was the conversation like, because we all know like

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Speaker 1: in a game, Jesse's got that handle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so for us, like you know, after after play

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Speaker 2: the sideline and the we're all sitting there, it's like

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Speaker 2: a family, like it's Merry Christmas. Bro, It's like, marry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Like that ain't happening, Like you know what you're about

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Speaker 2: to do. But you know, he's the reason why he's

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Speaker 2: a great player, that is because he holds himself to

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Speaker 2: about it. He's like, man, I should have got that.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I just feel like I had it. But

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Speaker 2: you know we jokingly like, man, merry Christmas, like making

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Speaker 2: that play nine out of ten times that was the one.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: Warner is a Kelly Seal Right, it's.

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Speaker 3: A great play by Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, today's episode of Falcons Final Whistle is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Zaxby's. And after a long game, when I'm

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Speaker 1: tired and I need to refuel, I turned to Zaxbies

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Speaker 1: their marinated handbreaded fried to perfection fingers. They hit the

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Speaker 1: feeling at the moment, but it always hits just right.

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Speaker 1: So next time you need to refuel, go get yourself

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Speaker 1: some Zaxbies. Good joint practs against Miami, and I think

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Speaker 1: the matchup obviously between Miami's receivers and then the secondary

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Speaker 1: was something everybody was really excited to see, Like how

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Speaker 1: how do you think you performed kind of during those

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Speaker 1: joint sessions and then as a group, like in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: how'd you guys hold up?

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Speaker 3: Oh man?

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Speaker 2: First off, we you know, anytime that you get the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to go against the civicrep like that, guys with

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Speaker 2: all of that speed, you know, you kind of looking

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Speaker 2: at your chops as a dB like okay, this is

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Speaker 2: no better work than this, And so we go out there,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we got one on ones, we got

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Speaker 2: seven on we got eleven on it. So in all

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Speaker 2: of these instances you're able to compete, like yeah, able

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Speaker 2: up against Tempa a couple of times, pretty pretty fun,

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Speaker 2: like fun due to cover shifty. That's to matchup that

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Speaker 2: I believe so, and I'd steal it from him. I

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Speaker 4: Much does this change help your sleep schedule because now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's gonna be humid for Utah team, Like,

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Speaker 1: Well, Clark, it has been really good to watch you

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Speaker 1: all throughout training camp of the preseason. Congratulations on getting

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Speaker 1: Cam Champ. Thanks so honestly, like you were the epitome

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Speaker 1: much for coming on again. Congratulations. Thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for watching and listening to today's episode of Falcons

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Speaker 1: Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's for Clark Phillips and Tarren Walk.

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Speaker 1: I am Will Macfatten. We will see you all soon.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you