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Speaker 2: I thought he was really fascinating. He continued that kind

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Speaker 2: of exterior that we've known Kirk Cousins for, but you've

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Speaker 2: got a glimpse into how much work he puts in

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Speaker 3: As he is.

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Speaker 2: Unlike baseball, where the game is so relatively simple and

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Speaker 2: relatively static, football is way too complicated for that to happen.

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Speaker 2: You're never going to solve it with analytics.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm Ttum Everett,

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Speaker 1: Jay Nelson back in studio with me. We've got producer

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Speaker 1: Eric Davidson here and we'll be welcoming Gay back very

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Speaker 1: soon after he is off maternity leave, and.

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Speaker 4: Were welcome the players next week.

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Speaker 2: Jay.

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Speaker 4: The time has arrived.

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Speaker 3: We are standing on the door staff for the door

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Speaker 3: to open to the actual season kicking in. I know

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Speaker 3: that there's a lot of us behind the scenes who've

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Speaker 3: been trying to cross everything off our list as fast

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Speaker 3: But I think everyone's just excited for a training camp

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Speaker 4: I know, I am.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't gotten your tickets, make sure you do so,

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Speaker 4: It should be a great time out there. I've been.

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Speaker 1: I gave someone a tour of the facility the other

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Speaker 1: We're getting ready for you. We hope to see you

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be great. I saw a

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Speaker 1: I saw a friend of the podcast, Brad Spielberger. He

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: Well is hen released in NFL's top receivers per execs, scouts, coaches.

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Speaker 4: They did like a poll of more than eighty people.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt Bowen was also going through like tape

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Speaker 3: Yes, what I think this is a coach or in

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Speaker 1: Then you're also thinking, you're like, well, maybe they just

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Speaker 1: He's literally the consensus number one going in fantasy football

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Speaker 1: And now welcoming into the Minnesota Vikings podcast, we have

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Speaker 4: You can follow him at PFF Undersource. Sam. Sam, We're

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Speaker 2: A little bit. But I think it's a good thing

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Speaker 2: something that only listed behind the scenes in the NFL,

443
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Speaker 2: and then you know, game pass comes along, and like,

444
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Speaker 2: between the access to coaches film and the access to

445
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Speaker 2: analytics and advanced statistics and all those kinds of things,

446
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,040
Speaker 2: it's really democratized football analysis, right, so that it used

447
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Speaker 2: to be something that you had to take people's word

448
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Speaker 2: for inside the NFL. You had to take what a

449
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Speaker 2: coach said as gospel or you know, whoever it was

450
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Speaker 2: that came out and gave interviews to media. Whatever they said,

451
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Speaker 2: you were kind of stuck with it. You couldn't disagree

452
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Speaker 2: too much because they had better information than you did.

453
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Speaker 2: You know, they had the tape, and they had behind

454
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Speaker 2: the scenes statistics and things you didn't have access to,

455
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Speaker 2: and sure you might be watching from the TV copy,

456
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Speaker 2: but there was always that trump card of well, we

457
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Speaker 2: know more than you do, so be quiet. Now everybody's

458
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Speaker 2: working from the same information, they're all using the same data,

459
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Speaker 2: they're all using the same tape, and you know, some

460
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Speaker 2: random guy on Twitter his opinion. It might not be

461
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Speaker 2: as valid as you know, a twenty five year NFL

462
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Speaker 2: defensive coach, but if he says something and backs it

463
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Speaker 2: up with tape and numbers, you have to take it seriously.

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Speaker 2: And sort of that has I think changed the conversation again,

465
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Speaker 2: because these guys can't just say things in front of

466
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Speaker 2: a microphone and not be called on them anymore.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of it I really love it, I really do,

468
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Speaker 1: but it also sometimes is a little bit overwhelmed. I

469
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Speaker 1: feel like sometimes we get so much out there that

470
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Speaker 1: does become a lot, and you try to try your

471
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Speaker 1: best to stay on top of things, and you.

472
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Speaker 4: Do a really good job of that.

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Speaker 1: If you follow Sam on Twitter, I feel like you

474
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Speaker 1: do a really good job of encompassing like everything going

475
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Speaker 1: on in the league and keeping up with it. And

476
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Speaker 1: so in the spirit of that, I was wondering, did

477
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Speaker 1: you have you happened to catch quarterback this offseason? I

478
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Speaker 1: know we had the time to binge it. I binged

479
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Speaker 1: it for sure, but did you get a chance to

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Speaker 1: catch it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I did. I watched it through. I thought it

482
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Speaker 2: was really interesting. I was pretty fascinated by it.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of Kirk? Are you a Kirk

484
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Speaker 4: Cousins fan?

485
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Speaker 2: I thought he was really fascinating. He continued that kind

486
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Speaker 2: of bland exterior that we've known Kirk Cousins for over

487
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Speaker 2: the last few years, Like he's not a particularly interesting

488
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Speaker 2: person in what he says or what he does on

489
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Speaker 2: a day to day basis, but you've got a glimpse

490
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Speaker 2: into how much work he puts in to be as

491
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Speaker 2: good as he is, and you also kind of got

492
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Speaker 2: reminded of just how good he is. Like the Kirk

493
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Speaker 2: Cousins narrative tends to focus on what he's not, and

494
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Speaker 2: you know, he's not Patrick Mahomes, and he's not one

495
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Speaker 2: of the very very best quarterbacks in the NFL. He

496
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Speaker 2: won't go to the Hall of Fame, these kinds of things,

497
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Speaker 2: and that's been become the narrative of Kirk Cousins, or

498
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Speaker 2: can he win a Super Bowl? You know, all those

499
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Speaker 2: kinds of things. But when you start to see it

500
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Speaker 2: broken down on a day to day basis, you're reminded

501
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Speaker 2: of just how good he is to be, you know,

502
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Speaker 2: a top ten quarterback in the NFL, and how much

503
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Speaker 2: work goes into doing that, and how much preparation, and

504
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Speaker 2: you know a guy's working on his body and you

505
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Speaker 2: know him deliberately sort of training his own mind in

506
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Speaker 2: terms of focus and all these kinds of things. You know,

507
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Speaker 2: there might not be anybody in the NFL squeezing as

508
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Speaker 2: much out of his talent as Kirk Cousins is, And

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Speaker 2: that to me was really fascinating. It's sort of, you know,

510
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Speaker 2: recentered the entire discussion about Kirk Cousins, and I think

511
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Speaker 2: framed him in a really positive light.

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Speaker 3: I think the thing for me that whether it was

513
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Speaker 3: quarterback or even hard knock and stuff, the thing I'm

514
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Speaker 3: always drawn to the most is that behind the scenes information.

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Speaker 3: And I think the best part of it for me

516
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Speaker 3: is just knowing that you really when they showcase the

517
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Speaker 3: amount of hours, the amount of effort, kind of the

518
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Speaker 3: structured nature for a lot of these guys to have

519
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Speaker 3: to go through and just realize, you know, I have

520
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Speaker 3: teachers in my family. And one of the things when

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Speaker 3: Kirk was talking about, you know, I never understood athletes

522
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Speaker 3: that said, I don't really have to be a good student,

523
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Speaker 3: just you know, I just need to go play sports.

524
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Speaker 3: And he's just like, every single day I'm walking into

525
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Speaker 3: a classroom having to figure out how to ace a

526
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Speaker 3: final at the end of the week. You know that

527
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Speaker 3: those kind of pieces for something like this, whether it's quarterback,

528
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Speaker 3: hard knocks, whatever, those behind the scenes pieces and glimpses

529
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Speaker 3: as to what is important to them, I think is

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Speaker 3: what's most important, and it's what I'm always looking for

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Speaker 3: in those kind of shows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you really get an understanding of just

533
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Speaker 2: how much information these guys have to deal with and

534
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Speaker 2: just how much work mentally is part of that entire game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I sat back and

536
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Speaker 1: I was like, I could never do this a million years.

537
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Speaker 1: I can barely remember, like my own phone number. How

538
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Speaker 1: am I going to remember like all these things that

539
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Speaker 1: are happening so fast. And I like the humanization of

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Speaker 1: it all too. You know, I really liked that you

541
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Speaker 1: got to see them in their normal lives and as

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Speaker 1: normal people.

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Speaker 4: I think probably my favorite moment.

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Speaker 1: Was when he was sitting at the bonfire, not just

545
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Speaker 1: the not just the burn sweatshirt, which I thought was

546
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Speaker 1: really really endearing, but when he was there with his

547
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Speaker 1: like six year old son and he just sits back,

548
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Speaker 1: He's like, Coop, this is a great way to end

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Speaker 1: your day. I was like, man, this guy is just

550
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Speaker 1: so normal, like what a dad dad thing to say.

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Speaker 1: He talks to his son like he's a forty year

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Speaker 1: old friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean really is is this incredibly sort of

554
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Speaker 2: relatable normal guy who you know, in his day job

555
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Speaker 2: is squeezing every last ance of his talent that he

556
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Speaker 2: can't and to try and be as good as guys

557
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Speaker 2: like Patrick Mahomes and you know these other superstars for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of I think there's a lot of expectations

559
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Speaker 1: surrounding this team because of Kirk and JJ and a

560
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Speaker 1: thirteen win season defending NFC North champions. How do you

561
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Speaker 1: view the Vikings coming into year two under Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 2: I think they're a really interesting team because last year

563
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Speaker 2: it was a lot of just kind of continuing what

564
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Speaker 2: the old regime had done. It didn't look like there

565
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Speaker 2: were many significant deviations from the plan and it was

566
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Speaker 2: kind of more the same. But this offseason, I think

567
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Speaker 2: for the first time, we're starting to see signs of

568
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Speaker 2: them going in a different direction and what this new

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Speaker 2: regime under Quasi is going to be, Like, I think

570
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Speaker 2: that's really fascinating. For the first time, we're going to

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Speaker 2: see this team move in a completely different direction, and

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Speaker 2: that I think has to be exciting because you know,

573
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Speaker 2: they got rid of the old regime for a reason.

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Speaker 2: It kind of stalled out and it was producing reasonable results,

575
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Speaker 2: but it wasn't taking them where they wanted to go.

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Speaker 2: And we saw last season what simply a change in

577
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Speaker 2: scheme can achieve, and now we're going to see what

578
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Speaker 2: some of the adjustments in terms of personnel can achieve.

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Speaker 2: So I think for the Vikings that signal of a

580
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Speaker 2: new direction is a really exciting thing this offseason.

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Speaker 3: I think one of the biggest changes that happened this

582
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Speaker 3: offseason was the addition of Brian Flores and being able to,

583
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of hand over the reins to him

584
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Speaker 3: to revamp this defense that at times struggled last season.

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Speaker 3: How important do you think a guy like Brian Flores

586
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Speaker 3: coming in with this younger defense, especially this offseason. How

587
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Speaker 3: much do you think Brian's going to be able to

588
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Speaker 3: affect the type of play that we have on this

589
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Speaker 3: defense this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of things there. The first one

591
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Speaker 2: is that there's data to say that if you have

592
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Speaker 2: a struggling unit, simply change can make that group better.

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Speaker 2: You know, simply change for change's sake can have a

594
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Speaker 2: positive impact. So simply putting in anybody as a new

595
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: coordinator I think would have made a material difference to

596
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Speaker 2: this defense. And then you have Brian Flwes, who wasn't

597
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: just bringing a new scheme, but it's bringing in almost

598
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: a diametrically opposed scheme to the one that was being

599
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Speaker 2: run last season. So now you start to ask the

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Speaker 2: questions of, well, does this new scheme actually fit the

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Speaker 2: personnel better than the group that was there before? And

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Speaker 2: I think you can make that case. You know, certainly

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Speaker 2: with guys like Andrew Booth Junior a corner, there are

604
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Speaker 2: a personnel I think in this defense that are more

605
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: naturally suited to a more man heavy system than the

606
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Speaker 2: previous defense. And of course that's the third question on

607
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: top of that is, will Brian Floweres maintain that kind

608
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Speaker 2: of hyper aggressive man coverage system that he's used previously,

609
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Speaker 2: or will he go and modify it a little bit

610
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Speaker 2: and sort of head towards where the rest of the

611
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: league is gone, which has been much more zone coverage,

612
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: you know, a lot less man coverage than in previous seasons.

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Speaker 2: And when Flores was running that defense before, they were

614
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Speaker 2: always the extreme end of man coverage anyway, they were

615
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 2: already an outlier, but now the league has shifted even

616
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: more in the other direction towards zone. So I think

617
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: overall there's a lot of questions to be answered this

618
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: season for that defense, but I think generally it should

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Speaker 2: be an improvement over what it was last year, and

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Speaker 2: we just get to see how much.

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Speaker 4: Yeah good thing is is.

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of fans are thinking there's

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Speaker 1: really only one way to go when you've got this defense,

624
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Speaker 1: with the youth coming in and with a new coordinator,

625
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: that up is really the only way to go after

626
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Speaker 1: last year. As we head into training camp next week,

627
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Speaker 1: our players report next week, we start getting things going

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Speaker 1: for back together Saturday, welcoming our fans to Twin City

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Speaker 1: Orthopedics Performance Center for training camp. What is another or

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Speaker 1: maybe just to round things out today, what is one

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Speaker 1: storyline that you maybe have not mentioned already that you

632
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Speaker 1: were watching for Vikings training camp this year?

633
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Speaker 2: I think what that number two receiver position looks like

634
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: justin Jefferson. Obviously, Jefferson is a superstar. Adam Thielen was

635
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: an incredible receiver for the Vikings for so many years.

636
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: I think its started to slow down they moved on

637
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: from him. So now we get to see whether Jordan

638
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: Addison hits the ground running and becomes that guy from

639
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: day one, whether kJ Osborne steps up into that role

640
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: for a period while Addison sort of adjusts, or whether

641
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: it becomes a little bit of a weakness for a

642
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: period until one of those two things happen. So I

643
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: think just sort of monitoring what that guy opposite Jefferson

644
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: looks like and whether or not that's going to be

645
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: a big strength of this team going forward, whether the

646
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: offseason moves have helped it, or whether it's going to

647
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: end up being a little bit of a weak spot

648
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Speaker 2: for a time until one of the young guys can

649
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Speaker 2: step up and man that spot.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you so much to Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Focus as lead NFL analyst Sam Munson for being with

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Speaker 4: Sam. Thanks again, Sam, We really appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Sam.

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Speaker 2: Anytime guys take it easy, I get a.

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Speaker 1: Big thanks to Sam Monson for being our guest on

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Speaker 1: the podcast this week. I feel like I can go

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Speaker 1: ahead and tease this Jay next week's guest. We are

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Speaker 1: really excited to have on the podcast because after a

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Speaker 1: very long time here, I feel like that's the only

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Speaker 1: way I could put it. With the Vikings, Dennis Ryan

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Speaker 1: hung up the helmet on I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: because you know he was the lead equipment Services director

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Speaker 1: of Equipment Services, so lead equipment manager for ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically my entire life. Wow, yeah, my entire life.

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Speaker 3: He he came in as an intern I believe in

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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six and I think he got the full

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Speaker 3: time gig in seventy eight or seventy nine. Incredible and

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Speaker 3: so my entire life. Dennis Ryan was the equipment one

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Speaker 3: of the equipment managers for the entire.

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Speaker 1: So big shoes to Phil, But the guy to do

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Speaker 1: it is Mike Persons and he is going to be

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Speaker 1: on our podcast next week.

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Speaker 4: So excited to talk to him.

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Speaker 1: He's had some stints in the end, but he's already

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Speaker 1: I feel like, acclivated really well, and the staff loves

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Speaker 1: them a lot, and so we're excited to have him

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Speaker 1: on and talk to him about this opportunity and what

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Speaker 1: he's looking.

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Speaker 4: Most forward to and all the stuff.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Persons will be our guest next week, right

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Speaker 1: before we tack off training camp.

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Speaker 3: Perfect timing, right, Those are the people that are in

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Speaker 3: full go mode at this point as well, with everybody

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Speaker 3: getting ready to kick training camp off and just think

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Speaker 3: of everything they have to do in the off season,

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Speaker 3: just to try to inventory everything, get everything ready, make

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Speaker 3: sure everybody's ready and when the rookies and everybody do

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Speaker 3: show up. Yes, there was a transition period here with

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Speaker 3: OTAs and mini camp and stuff like that, but this

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Speaker 3: is the go time, this is the season, and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure when it comes to traveling on the road and

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Speaker 3: everything else, there's going to be a ton of stuff

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Speaker 3: that they still are getting ready. And luckily for them,

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Speaker 3: a giant chunk of their staff are still here and

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Speaker 3: so they kind of know the routine of what we

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Speaker 3: did before. But there's always a learning period for everybody,

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Speaker 3: and you know, given the fact these experience, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: they will pick up right where they left off.

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Speaker 4: Yes, excited to talk to him, So be sure to

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Speaker 4: tune in next week.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't gotten your training camp tickets, that's also

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Speaker 1: something we highly encourage you to do. Vikings dot Com

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Speaker 1: Backslash Training Camp. Come out to any of the practices

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Speaker 1: beginning July twenty ninth. They'll be to ninth night practices,

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Speaker 1: but also of joint practices, so at least come out

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Speaker 1: once during the month of August.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun activations planned and you know,

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Speaker 1: autographs and the kids zone.

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Speaker 4: There's just it's a whole family affair.

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Speaker 3: I would highly suggest getting out here during those joint

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Speaker 3: practices because those sessions will be probably some of the

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Speaker 3: most intense periods of training camp. Let alone. Forget the

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Speaker 3: preseason games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely not the game.

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Speaker 3: Those joint practices are going.

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Speaker 4: To be basically are the games.

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Speaker 3: Essentially, because that's where your your number ones are going

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Speaker 3: to be going against number ones. For those other teams,

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Speaker 3: and I just I got a feeling knowing how everything

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Speaker 3: went down with the forty nine ers last year. With

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals and Titans coming in here, you know they're

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Speaker 3: going to want to put their best foot forward. Especially

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Speaker 3: it's always great in camp when you don't have to

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Speaker 3: hit your teammates, you get a chance to you know,

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Speaker 3: that's when that really kicks up Pete against somebody else.

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Speaker 3: And so I just feel like if you are somebody

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Speaker 3: who truly wants to kind of somewhat get an early

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Speaker 3: glimpse as to where some of these different players are at,

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Speaker 3: especially some of the rookies coming in, get your tickets,

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Speaker 3: try to go to some of those joint sessions, and

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Speaker 3: I think you guys will absolutely love it.

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Speaker 2: All.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well we'll wrap things up, Jay, but well, like

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Speaker 1: we said, we have a really exciting episode for you

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Speaker 1: next week. Hope you enjoyed this one, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast