1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,479 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Blackoutels podcast. 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: host Iery, and we're alive on a Sunday afternoon, just 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 3: right afternoon. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: And we are as always ready to do some podcasts. 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: And we are joined by a very special guest, somebody 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: that I hold him very high steam. I've been a 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: fan of this man ever since the Sports Reporters, when 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: I was just a person that would wake up on 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 3: a Sunday morning, Yes, sir, and watch four people in 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: suits talk about talk about the stories in depth that 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: fell through the cracks. And I was like, Oh, who's 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: the ballhead brother with the air ring? He seemed pretty cool. 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Uh. 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: And so today we have a guest as author like 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: multiple authors, so many books, journalists, TV show producer. Now 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: for Back on the Record with Bob Costas and Marvel 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: Cinematic Universe nerd is Howard Bryant. 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: What's going on? 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: Man? 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: How y'all doing good to be here? Of course, I'm 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: looking at everything in the back right there. I got 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: the Millennium Falcon back looks like a little little Mario 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: action back there. Is that super Mario back? 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you guys, a little little little Superman number 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: one Action comics back. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: Liking that that nineteen thirty eight. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: Action Yeah, we definitely had some nerds over here. Man, 32 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: we all love that. 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 3: Now, I will I got to ask the first of all, 34 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: the biggest question, the most major question is happening in 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: sports right now? 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: What the hell is Kyrie Ever talking about? 37 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Wait on that? 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 5: Do you know? 39 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: Do you know? Because I watched the video was confused? 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think, I mean, you know what, I think 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: that the way to be I don't know, measured about it, 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: to be kind about it, to not try and you know, 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: and shade the dude all day long, and all of 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: that is to say I really think that. I mean, 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: this is the first half of it. The first part 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: of it is I think that I think Carrie Irving 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: is he's like a lot of us in terms of 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: trying to figure out where we are in this country 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out who we are and where 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: we fit. And when you listen to a lot of 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: the things that he's talking about, you can see that 52 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: at some level he's trying to sort out where he belongs, 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, And when you think about how he's trying 54 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: to at least say that he is supporting, you know, 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: his Native American heritage, his Black heritage, trying to also 56 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: understand the balances of power between being a multi million 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: dollar basketball player and having influence, but also still being 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: an employee. I mean, just because you make thirty million 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: dollars doesn't mean your boss doesn't make four billion, right, 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean, so all of these things are still relative. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: It's it's an insane amount of money to us, but 62 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: it's ashtray money to the person who signs the checks. 63 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: So at some level, you're still you still don't have 64 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: the level of agency that you think you have, right, 65 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: And so I think that and I do think that 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: he cares about black people, and I do think he's 67 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: watching and thinking about these things and think that I 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: think that deserves a lot of respect. And I think 69 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: also when you're looking at the history of where we 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: are as people, you would be skeptical of just blind 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: trust because where it has blind trust ever gotten us? 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: So it makes so all of the different all of 73 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: the pieces on their face makes sense, each individual piece 74 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: on its face makes sense. Then yet in application, you're like, 75 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: what is he talking about? Right. Then when you start 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: applying the stuff, it does not come together right, especially 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: on the vaccine stuff. I mean, and brothers talk about 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: this all the time, so it's nothing, it's nothing new. 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I know. And then and white people. 80 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: There's one thing too that that bothers me a lot 81 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: about this is that we're we treat black people like 82 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: we're the ones who are the ones not taking the bay. 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I got a neighbor two blocks away. They're all unvaccinated 84 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: down the street. It'll take this either. 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 6: And they're all white. 86 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: They're only two black people on the street, right, And 87 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: so everybody has the same sort of issues. But where 88 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Kyrie falls apart in a lot of ways is he's 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: not making sense. And if you go back and look, 90 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: and I think that these guys spend a lot of 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: time talking a lot of stuff without a lot of 92 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: insight and a lot of information, right, I mean, if 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: you're really going to look at it from this standpoint, 94 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: like I had one dude tell me a major league 95 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: X major league baseball player, you know, essentially tell me, man, 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I ain't putting that in my body. And you know, 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: he gave me all these crazy websites to go look 98 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: at and told me, you know, and at the end 99 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: of the day, end of the day, I was like, well, 100 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And He's like, well, I'm taking 101 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: you know, the hydro chloroquine, where I'm like the bleach. 102 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: You're taking bleach. So it's obviously there's a whole lot 103 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: of misinformation out there and the all of it. I mean, 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: I see somebody in the check go and I need 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: to do my own research as well. It's all. It's 106 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: that part of it bothers me. It just sounds like 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: more celebrity nonsense, where the more the more money somebody has, 108 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: the more you feel like, the more they feel they 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: need to be listened to, the more we as media 110 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 1: listen to them. Right. And I always say, I'm like, look, okay, 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: let's go back to five years ago, six years ago, 112 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: five years ago when Kaepernick took a knee and everybody 113 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: was talking about players. I'm just using my platform and 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm okay, you want activism, okay, right, this is that, 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: this is the other side of it. You want to 116 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: listen to all these dudes talk. This is the other 117 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: half of it. Because let's also not forget that activism 118 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: doesn't just mean talking about the topics or advocating the 119 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: topics that we want them to talk about. Actimism means 120 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: to them taking advocacy positions for things they want to 121 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: talk about. And so you listen to him going, I'm 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: not with you on this, and especially when it comes 123 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: to the vaccine piece. Right in the vaccine piece, which 124 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: really gets me on that is if if the vaccine 125 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: was designed to kill black people, right then when then 126 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: when the vaccinations first became available, all the whit people 127 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been going into back neighborhood trying to get it. 128 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: Because remember when that first started out, it was supposed 129 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: to be the underserved, the workers who were supposed to 130 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: be getting at first. It was supposed to be all 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: the folks who needed it first. And then I'm looking 132 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: at all these white people and white friends I know 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: who were like, oh, they had an extra you know, 134 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: batch of vaccinations at four fifty five up in Harlem. 135 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: So I went up to one thirty fifth. I mean, 136 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: you did what this ain't supposed to be for you. 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be getting. 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: This first, exactly, you gotta vacate. So you came back 139 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: from your vacation house in Connecticut to go up to 140 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Harlem to get a vaccination. Does it's not even for you? 141 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: So that's the piece that bothered me. I'm like, listen, 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: do your research, Yeah, do your research. 143 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: And I find the ultimate results of who's in the 144 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: hospital to be pretty much the definitive take, Like there's 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: really not There's really not much you can argue when 146 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: it's like, well, over ninety percent of people in here 147 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: are unvaccinated. 148 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: It's like, what's the. 149 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: Other side of that stat Like what research would counter 150 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: that enough for somebody? 151 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: So I feel like it kind of loses to something 152 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: I've seen you. 153 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: Talk about on Twitter before, especially around like the Nail 154 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: Yosaka thing with kind of circumventing the media going straight 155 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: to the people. And I wonder how much of this 156 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: because it's not just athletes, like it's kind of all 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: of us now that we have social media, But how 158 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: much of this is the result of being able to 159 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: surround yourself and select only the opinions that really kind 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: of validate whatever you already feel, and then filter out 161 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: everything that would say like, well, let me challenge your 162 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 3: opinion in this way. It's like, no, I don't want 163 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: that challenge. I would like to just feel the way 164 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: I feel all the time. 165 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's what we've created, right. I mean I think 166 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: that some of the things. And I'll say one last 167 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: thing about about the Kyrie piece of it too, is 168 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: that on the bottom line is it is as much 169 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: as I want to follow and respect Kyrie's journey, and 170 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Kyrie's journey is his own. He don't have to play 171 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: in the NBA if he doesn't want to, and he 172 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: doesn't have to. You know, you can't have it both ways. 173 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: Doing this is what all these guys want, right, Right. 174 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: They want to be able to say I'm going to 175 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: go on Instagram and I'm gonna just talk about whatever 176 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. But I also want you 177 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: to respect my privacy, right, which means I want to 178 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: talk at you, but I don't want to listen to you, right, 179 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: And I don't want to be talked at, And I 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: certainly don't want to be talked at by you unless 181 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about basketball, because you're a genius at that. 182 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: You're not a genius at this, right. You know you 183 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about at this. And I 184 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: think that the piece of it that goes beyond simply 185 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: this celebrity. Part of it is it's an insult to 186 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: so many people and lost peak. Yes, you go back 187 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: to where we were, go back to where we were 188 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: last year. And that's why I'm making this drive to 189 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: go see Dusty because the last time I was on 190 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: an airplane, I was with him, and in West Palm. 191 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm in an airplane since March sixth, twenty twenty. When 192 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: I was out in West Palm with the Astros. Everybody's 193 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: life went upside down, right, and it felt like the 194 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: world was ending a year and a half ago. And 195 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, in New York, you know you had you know, 196 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: you had freezes of dead people in Central Park. So 197 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about you doing your own research, right, right, 198 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: And that is an insult. You're insulting people, and you're 199 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: insulting a lot of black people, yes, and that's not right. 200 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: And doctors and nurses and exactly. 201 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: And that's the other piece, Right. One of the things 202 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: that we always talk about in this business is professional respect, 203 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: And the one thing that the players never really receive 204 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: is professional respect. Right, Oh, I could have made that play. No, 205 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: you couldn't have right, I could have made that free throw. No, 206 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't have You can't do what they do right right. 207 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Otherwise you'd be doing it right. But you can't because 208 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: they are geniuses at what they do right. On the 209 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: other hand, as their celebrity rises and as they move 210 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: to what empire, and as you look at the lebron 211 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: james Is of the world and the Rihannas and everybody else. 212 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: Now all these celebrities are worth billions of dollars, hundreds 213 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: of millions and soon to be billions. I think Rihanna's 214 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: a billionaire. 215 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, she did, she made it. 216 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Now they don't have to have professional respect for anybody else, 217 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: right because now that they have the money, you have 218 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: to listen to them. It reminded me a lot of 219 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: nine to eleven when the towers fell and I was 220 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: covering the Yankees, and you know, the whole world absolutely 221 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: think pretty smart and disrespectful to scientists spend their lives 222 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: doing this stuff, and that's a thing, and the quick 223 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: old tirade like that. That's like when you listen to 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: all these dudes when Kaepernick took his knee, and you'd 225 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: have all these players, you know, doing their concierge thing, 226 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: calling their congressmen and calling their local chiefs of police 227 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: and doing ride alongs, and like, you know, there are 228 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: people who have been on the ground floor doing this 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: for forty years. What makes you think you're gonna just 230 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: walk it bay after scoring a touchdown? 231 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, my friend Randolph Arrence and. 232 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Now suddenly you're an expert on police reform. 233 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: My friend Randol Terrence, who is a comedian, has his 234 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: joke about the ride alongs where he's like, uh, you know, 235 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: they bring these celebrities on these ride alongs and supposed 236 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: to be like, you know, this is police, he's like, but. 237 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: They never show him the real shit. 238 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: He's not, like, and that's where we beat him out there, 239 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: you know, like right there, that's where we uh, that's 240 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: where we buy like the civil rights yep. 241 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: So just make a right Let's take you right along 242 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: and we'll you know, we'll we'll show you how we 243 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: plan evidence. 244 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 245 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say about nine to eleven is that, 246 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: you know, after the towers fell and you know the 247 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: world felt like it was collapsing again. You eventually life 248 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: goes on. You have to go back to work. So 249 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: a week later we go back into the clubhouse and 250 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: we're talking to these baseball players, and I'm just mad. 251 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm just salty because I'm like, why on Earth am 252 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: I listening to a second basement talk about geopolitics. You 253 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about, right, right, But because 254 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: you're famous and because you're a baseball player, I have 255 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: to put a microphone in front of your face and 256 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: listen to this nonsense, right, And so I just stopped 257 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: doing it. I was like, I'm not putting this stuff 258 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: in my stories. I don't. I don't care what you 259 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: think about the you know about the coming ground war, 260 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: because how you know, and especially a lot of these 261 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of these athletes in a lot 262 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: of ways, Like a lot of people, they're not even 263 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: source of their material. I heard it somewhere. That's not 264 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: good enough, right, right, you heard it somewhere. I heard 265 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: a lot of things somewhere. 266 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's subject to the same means everyone else is 267 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: on Facebook. 268 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Exactly, on Twitter, right right. 269 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: And it is interesting because I think the thing people 270 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 3: are doing now is kind of like being upset when 271 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 3: the athletes don't. 272 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Pair it what they believe. 273 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 3: So like right now, Lebron's catching it because he's not 274 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: outspoken enough about being vaccinated and how other people should 275 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 3: be vaccinated, which a lot of people were comparing to 276 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: his like stance on like black Lives Matter and stuff. 277 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: But then the point I was making was I feel 278 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 3: like it's consistent with his stance because when he was like, hey, 279 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: we're taking a knee wearing a hoodie or whatever, he 280 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: never was like, and I'm calling out Jonathan Isaac because 281 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: he's not taking a knee. It was like, well, that's 282 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: his choice, is my coworker, I'm just not even going 283 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: to address that, dude, But this is what I'm on. 284 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 3: This is what I think people should be on. So 285 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: it kind of is like to him, that's a coworker. 286 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: To us, it's just this other guy promoting the other side. 287 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: But you know, I could see the logic in his 288 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 3: mind of like that ain't got shit to do with me, 289 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: you know not. 290 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Well, in the logic of his mind is very very simple, 291 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: is that what he's doing is what we've been saying 292 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: for the last half century in this country, which is individual, 293 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: we don't sell community. Which what has been driving me 294 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: crazy about this entire thing is people be like, it's 295 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: a health it's a public health issue. I'm like, when 296 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: was the last time we sold public to anybody? I 297 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: mean there is no public right, there is no public 298 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: that the public. What have we told everyone that you 299 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: go get yours We tell everyone to do for yourself. 300 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: We tell everybody go get your money and then try 301 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: to be benevolent after you have it. We don't teach community, 302 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: we don't sell community, we don't promote community. We don't 303 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: do any of those things right. We don't do anything 304 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: in that area. And now when we actually have a pandemic, 305 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: we have a crisis that requires community, we're surprised that 306 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: people don't know how to practice it. We've been doing 307 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: our very best to destroy community, and especially when it 308 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: comes to the athletes. When it comes to athletes and 309 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: black people, we have been telling them and not just 310 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: telling them, but having them pay serious consequences for it. 311 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: If you align yourself with the black community, we're going 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: to destroy your career. You know that the further you 313 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: get away from black people is a measure of success. 314 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: And now we need community. So it's not surprising to 315 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: me that people don't know or refuse to realize that 316 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: it that it does require a community response. And I 317 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: think there's there's a lot to that. And I think 318 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: the other piece when it comes to Lebron is that 319 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: it does it really does concern Lebron because what Lebron, 320 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: I think that what I think You're right on the 321 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: one hand of it, that Lebron has essentially said here, 322 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: here's where I'm at, here's where I'm going, here's there, 323 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: here's what I'm going to promote. But he also, at 324 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the same time has positioned himself as a leader, right, 325 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: And and he doesn't just say here's what I'm doing. 326 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: He has positioned himself when you're building a school, that 327 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: is some way of trying to include community, even though 328 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: it's a charter school. Right, I mean, even though you're 329 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: doing these things, you are trying to sell some idea 330 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: of leadership that I do care about other people more 331 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: than simply on my own terms. Right. If that is true, 332 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: then there is no more community issue than this one, right, right, right, 333 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: there is no bigger community issue than this one. And 334 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: it was like I was saying to that, to that 335 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: player about the vaccine, I was like, you know, he 336 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: was trying to give me this whole stuff about you know, 337 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: Bill Gates is trying to cull the population. I said, 338 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: what is he fanos? Right, And so he's doing this 339 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: and he's trying to you know, do that, and they're 340 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, wipe out the population with the vaccine, 341 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: and I was like, you do know that the the 342 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: virus was doing a pretty good job of wiping out 343 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: the population without the vaccine. Without the vaccine, it was 344 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: doing a pretty good job. It really didn't need any 345 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: help killing people need to help wiping people out. 346 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 3: It was funny because, uh, you know, obviously, uh, social 347 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 3: media everything is like, you know, all billionaires are terrible people, 348 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 3: all all of them bad, blah blah blah. You know, 349 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: it's kind of very black and white on social media. 350 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: But the thing. 351 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: That was funny is it was also like billionaires. 352 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: Where y'all at, we need this vaccine? What y'all doing 353 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: like put the money into the ship. And then Bill Gates, 354 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: who you know, has a storied history with charity and stuff, 355 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: is working on stuff and then it's like, oh no, 356 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 3: you can't trust it now. Billionaire working on it. 357 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Also goes back to and and it also goes back 358 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: to the you know, to the to the the individual 359 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: piece of it too. Right, what should you be working on? Right? 360 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: Now who are you in terms of where's your connection 361 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: to the rest of us? And it also goes back 362 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: to the insult. There are a whole lot of black 363 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: in Africa right now who would love to have the virus. 364 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: You're telling everybody not to take the fact there are 365 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of countries out there that really need this. 366 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: And if this is how you're gonna use your voice, 367 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: then you do have to take some responsibility for that, 368 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: right Because you are Kyrie Irving, you are Lebron James, 369 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: you are a jun and people are going to listen 370 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: to you and you know that, so you do have 371 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: a responsibility. You can't just go Okay, I'm just gonna 372 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: say what I want to say. I mean, you can 373 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: do that, but then it's also up to us in 374 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: the business to call you out instead of simply just 375 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: quoting every stupid thing you say. Agree, right, It's also why, 376 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, this is also our job. 377 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: It's also kind of why. 378 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: When these guys do speak, you know, people, I mean, 379 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: they do step into the freight like I'm not gonna 380 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: pretend it's one hundred percent supported by everybody. You know, 381 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 3: it's you step up, You're gonna catch some flat for whatever. 382 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 3: But it is interesting because when you dudes speak, is 383 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: that extra credit, right, because they may not be the 384 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 3: scientist or the expert for a lot of people, though. 385 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: They become like the metronome where it's it's like, well of. 386 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: Three million, thirty million followers and these things and the 387 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: social media does have a lot of value. People are 388 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: going to follow you, and especially for black people because 389 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, these are the ones. And I would I 390 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: it's one of the things that I'd said in the 391 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: book I read a couple of years ago, The Heritage, 392 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: that it's my sincere hope that there will be more 393 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: black professionals so that we don't have to listen to 394 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: these dudes, that they don't that they're not that important. 395 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: That the reason why people say, well what about all 396 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: the white players don't, Well, the white players aren't that 397 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: important because you have white doctors and white senators and 398 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: white scientists and white Nobel prize winners. You don't I 399 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: don't need to listen to you know, the white center fielder, right, 400 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: because you can actually listen to the you know, the 401 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: white genius, you know who's accepting his Nobel prize in Sweden. 402 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 1: R Right. So but for us, they're the ones who 403 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: made it. They're the ones who escaped all of this. 404 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: They're the you know, the the We don't have the 405 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: doctors and the lawyers at the same volume level. So 406 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: we get the Lebron James and the Kyrie Irvings and 407 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: the Rihanna's and the you know and the jay Z's 408 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: and the Kanyes. Right, they they are the people who 409 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: made it. They are the ones who speak for us. 410 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: And then of course you say, I mean at that 411 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: volume level, right, do I even want you speaking for me? 412 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Probably not? And I think Angela, I see you in 413 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: the chat. I'm also agreed. Right, does the media want 414 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: to find and use the black excerpts that we do 415 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: have the answers? 416 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: No. 417 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: And so that's why one of the one of the 418 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: important things too is for us in the business to 419 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: know who those experts are and to talk to them. 420 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: We don't necessarily have the same I mean, there's only 421 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: a few of us in the business volume wise anyway, 422 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: in terms of like actual percentage. And this is the 423 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: reason why when you talk to you know, when you 424 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: talk to the black writers, they get all pissed off 425 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: about how man, you don't want to be a black writer, 426 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: just to be a writer. 427 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: Well, that ain't your choice. 428 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: If there was a thousand of us out there, you 429 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: could go out there and just write about comic books 430 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: if you wanted to, But there's not. So you have 431 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: a responsibility to represent you know, I mean sorry, but 432 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: that's how it is. 433 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: And even the denial of that responsibility is a choice. 434 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, But even though it's a choice, right, it's also 435 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: a choice. It's a choice I understand, but it's a 436 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: choice that I don't respect, right, because you're actively deciding that, yes, 437 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to be part of this because I 438 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: can't handle the same consequences that everybody else has to handle, 439 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: and that I'm checking out as something that I can't 440 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: check it exactly, being black, being the black anything is 441 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: not up test. That's right. This is something that was 442 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: placed onto us, right, right, and that because it was 443 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: placed onto us, you gotta carry it. I don't want 444 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: to carry it, you gotta carry it, yes, right, yes, 445 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: And because you've got to carry it if you believe 446 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: in community, this is part of this is your piece 447 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: of the community. You actually have the pen, you have 448 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: the laptop, you have the microphone, you have the access 449 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: to talk to wide numbers of people. What are you 450 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: going to say to them? 451 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: Right? 452 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 7: And I know and also for me, when it comes 453 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 7: to community, a lot of people fail to realize people 454 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 7: that's been talking about community for decades have been laughed at. 455 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 7: People who have actually been saying, like, prior to all 456 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: of this, they've been saying, y'all, we need to come together, 457 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 7: we need community. What about loving your brothers and sisters. 458 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: Those people have. 459 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 7: Been laughed they've been a laughing stock, and they've been 460 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 7: pushed away. 461 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 462 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, first of all, those people are 463 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: broke here, okay, right now. 464 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 5: And my next thing was. 465 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: Right, okay. 466 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: The next thing is like, it's not. 467 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 7: Fiscally a positive thing, like like you don't rewards for 468 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 7: actually talking about community. Nobody's actually pouring money, even businesses. 469 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 7: The statement sheets when it comes to that stuff that 470 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 7: is low and you get the least amount of money here, 471 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 7: here is a little bit of money and going back 472 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 7: to business. 473 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: This is our community work. 474 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's the reason why it's like then 475 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: you have these same people quoting the Bible, right, It's like, 476 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: let's understand what this is really all about. And and 477 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: you and I understand that people are stuck and I 478 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: and I and when I think about this as strategic 479 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: as as strategies go, right, Okay, well I got to 480 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: make the money to be able to have influence. Okay, 481 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: does that actually really work? Kind of but not really 482 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: because of all the trappings that come with the money. 483 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: Then suddenly you become separate from everybody else. And Karen, 484 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right right When you talk about values, 485 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: what do we actually value? We value money, That's what 486 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: we value, right. And I don't just say we value 487 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: money as some sort of you know, revelatory thing, because 488 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: it's obvious we value money. I'm really saying is is 489 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: that we value the opportunity to check in and check 490 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: out whenever we want. That's not community. And so checking 491 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: in and checking out whenever you want requires money. So 492 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: you got to get away from the community to actually 493 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: say you support it. Yep, right, And everybody in the 494 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: community knows the difference because you're not here, and that 495 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: it's not about it. You're here, then you're not here. 496 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: There's like an art, there's an art to a lot 497 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: of black celebrities where it is kind of like on 498 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 3: the humble for a while and then I love for 499 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 3: me personally, I actually love when they hit that milestone where. 500 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: It's like, actually, I love black people. 501 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: I got the money now, Like I love it because 502 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: it feels like a betrayal to white people. 503 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: But to me, I'm like, oh cool, I was rooting 504 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: for this. I was worried about you. 505 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 5: I didn't know if you're gonna come down. 506 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 3: And of course by the home right, Yeah, by then 507 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 3: the separation has occurred, and there's still a lot of 508 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: distrust and a lot of the you know, misgivings and 509 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: shit you got to work through within the community. 510 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: But I personally have started to enjoy that arc. 511 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: Well, you have to remember it's very important to remember 512 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: what we're being sold, and especially when we're talking about 513 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: the athletes and we're talking about the people quote unquote 514 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: who made it right, we're being told that the further 515 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: away from black people you get, the more successful you're 516 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: going to be, and that the closer you get to 517 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: black people, the less success you're going to have. Right 518 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: there is a calculation to this, like how many times 519 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: do you look, you know, like you're covering basketball or 520 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: something and the first thing people say is, oh, he's 521 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: hanging out with the wrong crowd. What they're really saying 522 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: is separate yourself, get away from them, right. And this 523 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: is the reason why when you ask a black athlete 524 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: about something that happens, the first thing they says, oh, 525 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: we want to get in rolled in politics? Why? Because 526 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: they know that advocating for black people is going to 527 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: have a backlash. Everybody knows the calculation. The question is 528 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: what are you going to do with that calculation? Right? 529 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: How are you going to navigate that calculation? You know? 530 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and you're being used in certain ways, and 531 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: some of these things are inevitable because people gravitate towards success, right, 532 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: And there's no way around the fact that people when 533 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: you do something admirable or when you know, we respect talent, 534 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: when we when you see someone who can do something remarkable, 535 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: then you you do gravitate towards that. The question is 536 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: why is this the calculation? I mean, that's the question 537 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: that I'm always asking. Why is advocating for black people 538 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: so prohibitive? Why is it so disqualifying? Why is it 539 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: that you know, what what is it that that it 540 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: is about supporting somebody black or supporting an issue that 541 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: clearly affects people that you know, your stupid awards all 542 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: say they support NBA, Cares, Walter Pate in the world, 543 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: all these wars and all of this supposedly goes into 544 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: the underserved community. But when you advocate for that community, 545 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: suddenly you're a troublemaker. The reason is that it's they're guilt. 546 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: They're guilty, they know and everybody knows. And also because 547 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: because they feel like you're going to affect you know, 548 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: those season ticket holders that you know that they rely 549 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: on their business for. 550 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: And I think we kind of reached the next level 551 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: and you addressed this somewhat in full dissident where uh, 552 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: they try to co opt a lot of this stuff too, 553 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: so like then it becomes like all of it. Yeah, 554 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: so it's like, okay, so the you know, after George Floyd, Oh, 555 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: black and black activism is the wave. 556 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: How do we monetize black activism? It's fine, it's. 557 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: Becoming ironic because I remember at the time going as 558 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 3: black creatives like, hey man, capitalize, why you. 559 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: Can't because you won this money. 560 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 3: There's money and opportunity is going to drive It's not 561 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: real because they'll they'll get tired and they'll be like, 562 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: all right, that was that was cool for the summer 563 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty. 564 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 2: But we're outside the house. Okay, that's enough of that. 565 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: But then the other thing too was there were there 566 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 3: was gonna always be uh come to come to whiteness moment. 567 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: It's not a come to deesus and we and I 568 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: feel like that's what's happening when we look at like 569 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: the NFL right now and the John Gruden email scandal 570 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: that is now branching now into other scandals. 571 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: Even as the NFL goes there's nothing to see here, Aha, 572 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: nothing's going on. I feel like that's to come to 573 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: whiteness moment. Well it is. 574 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, my editors always get 575 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: mad at me because invariably in my stories I will 576 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: refer to it as the George Floyd economy, and they'll 577 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: take it out because it's like that's offensive, And I'm like, 578 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: who's supposed to be offensive? Absolutely, it's offensive. It's offensive 579 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden, black people are suddenly good 580 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: at things, We're suddenly aware of things because that man 581 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: was murdered. Right. I mean, you go talk to any 582 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: black professional, every black professional I know their phone has 583 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: been ringing off the hook for a year. Yeah, I 584 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: phone never rang. I got calls from news outlets or 585 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: from magazines. They never called me BEFO for oh I 586 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: wanted to say, you're a big fan, always been a 587 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: big fan of your work. Bullshit. I've been in this 588 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: for thirty years. I've never heard from you, right, right, 589 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: from any of you, right, And now, all of a sudden, 590 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: y'all need black, you know. And that's why I get 591 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: mad when I see people talk about, oh well, I 592 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: think the New Yorker's got a piece now about the 593 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: first black composer to do a show at the Met 594 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: right now, the first black composer. And I'm like, I 595 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear 596 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: about the you know. I'm happy for the individuals. I'm 597 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: happy that your phone is ringing. I'm happy that my 598 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: phone is ringing. I'm happy that there is work. Because 599 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: the one thing that we're all that we are talking 600 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: about is who gets jobs, right, who gets to have 601 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: who gets to build wealth, who gets to have wealth, 602 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: who gets to do the good things? Who gets to 603 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: go on vacations? Right? These things do matter, They're really 604 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: really important. On a day to day basis, and I'm 605 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: happy that there are black people who get to do that. 606 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy that you know that there are black creators 607 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: out there who are now suddenly being recognized with MacArthur 608 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: Genius scrant because it's not just the fact that you 609 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: are now being recognized, but that award also comes with 610 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: a six hundred and fifty thousand dollars check right right, 611 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: So these things do matter, they allow you to do 612 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: these things. On the other hand, the only time I 613 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: want to hear somebody say that you're the first black 614 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: anything is if you're doing something that no black person 615 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: was ever capable of doing before. And there really aren't 616 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: that in any things, if any exactly right. In other words, 617 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: that you're really saying is you're not patting me in 618 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: the back, You're patting them in the back for finally 619 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: opening the door, right right, so the door. Oh, so 620 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: you're the first black photographer who got to shoot a 621 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Vogue cover? Does that mean that there has never been 622 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: a single black person right who was able to shoot 623 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: a photo spread? Who are we really celebrating here? What 624 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: are we really celebrating? And if you're going to be 625 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: that person, who's going to be like, oh, I'm the 626 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: first black person to be nominated for this, And what 627 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: you're really saying is, oh, you know, thank goodness that 628 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: I was chosen, you know, to be the marionette. But 629 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: they're still holding the strings. They're holding all of the strings. 630 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: And to your point, it was like, okay, how long 631 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: is this going to last? 632 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: Right? 633 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: Going? And at some point and it's happening already. Okay, 634 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: we we did our thing, and we're looking at the 635 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: bottom line and some of this stuff. So it's like, 636 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: my boy, BUTMANI always says, I see a lot of black, 637 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure I see a lot of excellence. 638 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's and I think that's 639 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: great because I said one of the things that's really important. 640 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: I know this is going to sound weird, but one 641 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: of the things that's really important is for black people 642 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: to be mediocre. 643 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: Just like, yes, have a job that is our. 644 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: Doesn't Everything you do doesn't have to be brilliant, but 645 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: I do have to have an opportunity to do it. 646 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: Like I don't want to I don't want twice as good, 647 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: like that's. 648 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: Right, I just want opportunity to give me a chance 649 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: to do the job. 650 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 3: A long time ago, I said that Tyler Perry is 651 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: the Jewish Adam Black, Adam Sandler, or in Adam Sandler's 652 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 3: a Jewish because is like, man, these motherfuckers make money. 653 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: They prolifically put out stuff. No one thinks it's excellent. 654 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: But what we kind of. 655 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: Need that existence because the excellent, right, it shouldn't have 656 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: to be that this man is his work is representative 657 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: of the why and. 658 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: Why twice is good, why three times is good? I mean, 659 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: we heard themselves right. It's like you're surrounded. I mean, 660 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I find very interesting 661 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: is that the number of times that you go into 662 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: these creative spaces, you go into these pictures, you go 663 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: into these meetings, and you're surrounded by people, and you're like, 664 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: you're not very impressive, You're unimpressive, you don't know anything, 665 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: you don't know anything right, and yet at the same time, 666 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: you're like, they are the ones who are in control. 667 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: You're the talent, but they're the structure. Yep, So everything 668 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: you do has to be approved by them because your 669 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: talent without their structure may not have a lot of 670 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: value unless you got the structure too. You know. So 671 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: when I think about this. I think about somebody like 672 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: Spike Lee, and it's like Spike and fighting this for 673 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: forty years, right, and I'm going to try to be 674 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: the talent and the structure at the same time. And 675 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: it's very, very it's impressive now. And we always gave, 676 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, Spike a whole bunch of grief because all 677 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: of his movies weren't perfect, right, But he gets to 678 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: make things on his terms, and I think that's one 679 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: of the most important things that you can do. I mean, 680 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: for me in the business. I just sort of reached 681 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: a point in my career where it was like, I'm 682 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: not trying to change your mind. I don't care, right, 683 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what I'm saying. And here's the 684 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: other piece of that. Right, you brought me here to 685 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: say that the only reason I have this job is 686 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: because you wanted somebody black to say something that we feel. Yeah, 687 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: so who were you if when they even give you 688 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: the position, or when you finally get the position, you're 689 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: afraid to say anything. 690 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I hate that, and like I'm reading for this 691 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 3: and it that was the thing I really took from 692 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: it was it felt unf like you just didn't pull 693 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: any punches, And I love that about the book because 694 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: you know, I think, thank you, it's super hard. Uh well, 695 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 3: I know for me, I feel sometimes almost overly protective 696 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: of black shit because somebody should be you know what 697 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 698 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: We're like, well and because you know what they're gonna 699 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: do r right. One of the reasons, one of the 700 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: reasons that you know we're wary of this isn't simply 701 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: because you know, we don't want to put our business 702 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: in the street and do they're black on black crime shit, right, 703 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: But the other reason is is because you know that 704 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: the minute you say something, there's gonna be some white 705 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: outlet out there that's gonna hold you up as the 706 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: one who's criticized another black man, right right, and they're 707 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: gonna take you and distort you. And as we all know, 708 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: if you want to have a job, you'll have a 709 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: job for life. If you're live he's out there criticizing. 710 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: Black Now, that's the real mediocre blackness. 711 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: Always have a job. If you're the one willing to 712 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: shit on other black people. 713 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: That's the real mediocre blackness. Because you don't even have 714 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: to be good at that. You just gotta be the 715 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 3: black first counterprogramming. 716 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, to be the one who's willing to you know, 717 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: to not be a Democrat who's not you know, I'm 718 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: gonna be the one who's gonna criticize Black and all 719 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: those people. Once they get wrung out and used up, 720 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, then they want to come home, right. 721 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: Like, Oh, man, that's the sad, that's the sad. 722 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: Exit interview. 723 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 3: When you see them doing like doing like entertainment tonight, 724 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 3: it's like an interview with stay Dash. 725 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, she ready to come home? 726 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: Okay? Andros I was. I was. You know you weren't 727 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: you knew exactly what you were doing? Yeah, it was available. Yes, 728 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: we spotted her exactly. 729 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 5: We spotted them at the Ammision church. I wonder, I wonder. 730 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 2: Why, Howard let me ask you this, man. 731 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 3: I know we're getting close to wrapping up with your 732 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: what's it like being on the production side of TV 733 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: with the back on the record with Bob Costas. 734 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: That's great? Well, I mean this goes back to the 735 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: thing like I always battle about the the what's the 736 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: what's the best way to say it? It is the 737 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: the illusion of merit, right that we rely on merit, 738 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: And I think about black people all the time when 739 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: we do these types of projects, and that how we're 740 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: stuck is we have to rely on merit. We're not 741 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: on the golf course all the time finding out what 742 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: the sweetheart deal is and getting those phone calls right. 743 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: You don't have that luxury. On the other hand, on 744 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: the other hand, in my case, people say, well, you know, 745 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: how did you get to be the executive producer of 746 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: on the Record of Bob costs in Ross Greenbroke and 747 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: I because Ross only has a gazillion Emmys and I 748 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: don't even have, Like what, how did this job ever 749 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: come to you? Well, Bob called and said, would you 750 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: like to do it? That's how it happened. All right, 751 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: there's I mean, I don't know how many people he 752 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: thought of for doing it. All I do is that 753 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: he called me one day last year and said, we're 754 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: getting a show up together. We would love you to 755 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: do it. And I said, Bob, I don't know anything 756 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: about EP and I've never done this before. He's like, 757 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: we got you. We want you. We want you here 758 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: for your brain, we want you here for your likely 759 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: when you hear for your sourcing, and you know, and 760 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: and that is and that's really how it happened. And 761 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: what's wild about that is that even that I'm thinking 762 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: to myself, Okay, now, Bob and I have known each 763 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: other for years, and Bob has always been great with me, 764 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 1: and Bob has always respected my work, and we've always 765 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: had a great work and relationship. So I was appreciative 766 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: when when he called the same was true with Bomani, 767 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: same thing called up here the guys we want. However, 768 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: you do have to ask the question, does this all 769 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: go down if George Floyd isn't murdered? Yeah, the do 770 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: the does the industry? I mean, my talent hasn't changed, 771 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: my business, my you know, my mindset hasn't shifted. But 772 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: does the industry respect the need to have our voices 773 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: in the room if that man isn't killed? Right? You know? 774 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of times, a lot of times it 775 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: feels like they want diversity, but not the opinions that 776 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 3: come with it. 777 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: They want to exactly. 778 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: Well, you ask yourself the question, do you want diversity 779 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: of color or do you want diversity of thought? Right? 780 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: Most times what you want is diversity of color. Right, 781 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,240 Speaker 1: So you can say that we had a whole bunch 782 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: of differ. We had a big old double rainbow in 783 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: the room. 784 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that's what Netflix is going through 785 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 3: right now where they are. 786 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: Here's what happens, right, Here's what happens. You're also in 787 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: that room to be the person who's going to be like, Okay, 788 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: y'all doing this wrong, Like I'm here to keep you 789 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: from getting sued, or I'm here to keep you from 790 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm here to make sure that you don't get caught 791 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: up in some dumb ass scandal because white people don't 792 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: know anybody, you don't know any better, right, right, I'm here. 793 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm here for that, right. However, that's not how it works. 794 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 2: In the room. 795 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Once you get in that room. The number one thing 796 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: you want to do in that room is you want 797 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: to stay in that room, right, And you don't want 798 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: to You don't want to be the person who's constantly 799 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: dumping on all the projects because now you're the troublemaker. 800 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: I mean. Gabrielle Union and I had a conversation about 801 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: this last year. Not to name drop, but I thought 802 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: it was fine. 803 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 2: I would if I knew Gabrielle Un. I have a 804 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 2: T shirt with Gabrigan. 805 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know we were dming back and forth 806 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: about you know, when she had her thing going on 807 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 1: with NBC a couple of years ago, and you know, 808 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: she was talking about all the things that she would say, 809 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: and she was the one, right, she was the one 810 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: in the room who was like, this isn't right, this 811 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: isn't right, this isn't right. And what did she get 812 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: for it? Trouble maker? 813 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 814 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: Right, And I said, and I said, I go, let 815 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: me guess after the meeting, all your white colleagues walked 816 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: up to you and said, oh my god, you're so brave, brave, 817 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: And it's like, why didn't you say that in the room? 818 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: And you know better, you know that if you said it, 819 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: you wouldn't stay in the room. Right. So, so one 820 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: of the things you have to worry about as a 821 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: black person in these in these settings is you've got 822 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: to be very judicious in terms of what you're going 823 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: to criticize, how you're going to talk, because you are 824 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: already the outcast. You know, look at go back to 825 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: what you were saying about the John Gruden emails. They 826 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: already this is what they already think about you, that 827 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: you don't belong here in anyway, right, And now, if 828 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: you're going to be the one, you know, checking them 829 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: on this, this, this, this, you're the problem. 830 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 831 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: Right, And so now that you're and once you're the problem, 832 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: you're the one that they can easily, you know, get 833 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: rid of and replace you with somebody else black and say, well, 834 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: we're not racist because we replace the black person with 835 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: a black person, right. But the core of why they 836 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: replaced you was the fact that you were calling them 837 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: on their stuff. All of that is aroundabout way of saying, 838 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: Bob Costas has been great. It's been a great, great experience. 839 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: It's been a learning it's been a learning experience to 840 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: be for real. I mean it's been a real you know, 841 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: once again, we talk about all these different businesses. Writing 842 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: is not the same as TV. TV is not the 843 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: same as movies. And I'm walking in there going I 844 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: got a lot to learn. 845 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 846 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: So, and it's been enjoyable. It's been enjoyable learning it. 847 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: But you but this goes back to what we were 848 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: talking about before about professional respect. You know, you only 849 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: get one life at this, right, and it takes so 850 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: damn long to learn the one job that I was in. 851 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: Now I'm a rookie trying to learn the other one. 852 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fifty two years old. I much more 853 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: time do I have. 854 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: To learn a whole new r And you're still you're 855 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: still writing books too, Like you got a book, you 856 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: got a book coming out. 857 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: Okay, you promote the book about Ricky. 858 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: I can, I can on Ricky Anderson. It is called 859 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: Ricky The Life and Legend of an American Original. And obviously, 860 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: Ricky Henderson is one of my all time favorites, and 861 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: I think one of the greatest players of all time. 862 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: And so to be able to spend the last three 863 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,720 Speaker 1: and a half years trying to trying to take Ricky 864 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: and put him in context as the as the legendary 865 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: player that he was and not just a punchline. I 866 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: tell people, if you think you're getting three hundred pages 867 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: of this you know, Ricky doing Ricky third person minstrel stuff, 868 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: you come to the wrong place. That's not what this 869 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: book is going to be. It's funny because Ricky's funny, 870 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: but it's not a clown show. 871 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: Well I did. 872 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect you to write something like that anyway. 873 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: Like I said, man, a prolific writer. You've written so 874 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: many books and you got to come back. 875 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 2: Again, man, sometime and hang out with us so we 876 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: can talk to you about out to your career. 877 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: I was appreciative for the for the email. Call any time, 878 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: happy to happy to do it. 879 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: You know. 880 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: Look, Karen, I'm gonna say, I don't really see a 881 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: whole lot of marvel on that wall. So maybe we 882 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: can work with that. I see the death Star, but 883 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 1: maybe we can work with that a little bit. Maybe 884 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: I gotta you know, you're gonna have action comics there. 885 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: I got a spider Man. You know, we have to 886 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: move I can send to you. 887 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: We can move the Civil War. I don't know if 888 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: you can see this. 889 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got I got a Batman to take this. 890 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: I see Okay, I gotta feel back there. 891 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, we can move that over the Karens side so 892 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 3: that we can have some more balance than that, because. 893 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 5: If it was wider, you would see somebody, you know. 894 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,479 Speaker 5: I blame it on the frame. They narrow a frame down. 895 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we have to back. 896 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: Maybe we have to talk about what if and all 897 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 3: that type of marvel and stuff. 898 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Man, All I'm gonna say about that is, if you 899 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: notice in every what if scenario that includes him Tony stars. 900 00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: Yes, is it? 901 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 3: That's a good them because it's every time I'm like, oh, yes, 902 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 3: what is he drinking alcohol? The underestimating a black man. Yes, 903 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 3: that's how he would go out. All right, brother, that 904 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 3: was even better than I thought it was that. But yeah, man, 905 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 3: check out Howard Bryant. Like I said, I always read 906 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 3: from full dissidence on the on the show sometimes and 907 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 3: then uh, like I said, he got the heritage. 908 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: He's got so many books. 909 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:33,919 Speaker 8: Books. 910 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 2: You got a book on Hank Aaron like a long listed. 911 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 3: And uh like really good follow on Twitter and stuff, 912 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, we have to have him back 913 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: when you can hang out with us, because I'll pick 914 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: his brain about like some of his baseball stuff and 915 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 3: how he got into the lane he is with writing 916 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 3: and all that stuff because it's always interesting. Plus you know, 917 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 3: you've been in the game for thirty years writing, you 918 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 3: got some fucking battle stories because uh, that field it 919 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 3: has not had a lot of black people have been 920 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 3: very kind of black people. 921 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: Like That's what's always so funny is like we have. 922 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 3: Been depending on the media to like hold these entities accountable, 923 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 3: and the media is an entity that was not necessarily 924 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 3: holding itself accountable, you know where like Jamel Hill's breaking 925 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 3: history and stuff, first and only black woman to be 926 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 3: writing about sports in a major news publication and that 927 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 3: was not like nineteen sixty five, you know what I'm saying, 928 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: So like, who is really the arbiter of morality? And 929 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 3: you know, I think that's one of the reasons that 930 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 3: when that Nail Meoska stuff happened, it was a lot 931 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 3: of people going, Yeah, I don't actually care that y'all 932 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 3: are saying she's the. 933 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 2: Bad guy here. Who are you to be calling out anybody? 934 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 5: Right, That's a lot of anger came from. 935 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you haven't earned the right to tell us 936 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 3: to tell her that what she's doing is irresponsible. So anyway, man, 937 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: I love talking to that dude, and I always love 938 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 3: like seeing them on other podcasts and stuff, so hopefully 939 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 3: we can have them back. That was fine, m all right, 940 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 3: I guess let's get into some show segments. We kind 941 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 3: of already uh, you know, we've been talking for a while, 942 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 3: so we probably won't spend as much time on these 943 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 3: segments because as you can see, Karen really does not 944 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 3: want to spend any more time on the segments at all. 945 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 4: I just want to. 946 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 2: No, you don't. 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Get the vaccine in second shots, whether woman, 959 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,399 Speaker 8: the man black out who tips is doing their part, 960 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 8: but the dumbest expand niggas would rather believe a bunch 961 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 8: of misinformation. Fuck y'all idiots not getting shots now. We 962 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 8: gotta regrets. If we keep going in this direction, we 963 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 8: never can rest, never can't get back to the last 964 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 8: we be living the best. 965 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 6: Damn fool stopped the lion. 966 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,720 Speaker 8: Stop the intubation crying because it's your fucking motherfucker's dying. 967 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 8: Damn fool stopped the lion stopped the ventilated crying. 968 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 6: Because it's your fucking motherfucker's dying. I do not understand 969 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 6: this shit. 970 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 8: I'm not a fan of this. We were like one 971 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 8: win from the Pandemic Championship. The fuckers want to leave 972 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 8: it to Game seven with Yanni Stelta Coupo blocking forward 973 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 8: progression and Chris middle figers to your plans man, Tam, 974 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 8: looks like it's no Jewel holiday for you and your man. 975 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 6: Some sick of. 976 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 8: Black people crying for rail. So I'm just writing this 977 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 8: piece to let you know how I feel. 978 00:46:59,440 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: Corona. 979 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, fuck that COVID nineteen. It is unseen. 980 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 8: It's creeping in their for you to breed. Yainuh so, 981 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 8: fuck that COVID nineteen. 982 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 6: It's unseen. It's creeping in the air for you to breath. Yeah. 983 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 3: Coronavirus, coronavirus news, Oh go ahead, h Yeah. 984 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 7: The reason why I was like no, because you know, 985 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 7: that was such a fun interview. It's like, okay, now 986 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 7: we're about to turn around it scream at coronavirus. 987 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 2: Well we don't have to scream, Okay. 988 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,839 Speaker 7: I want to choke coronavirus to death. So I wish 989 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 7: I could do that. And just just tell you to 990 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 7: go on, get. 991 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 5: It, get get, get out of here. We are dumps 992 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 5: and this is ridiculous. Cut the path. That's what I 993 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 5: want to. 994 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,720 Speaker 3: Tell coronavirus UH, smoking MARIJUANAICA lead through breakthrough COVID cases 995 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 3: study fines m hmm. The study published last Tuesday and 996 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 3: World Psychology found that with those are the substance ordered 997 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: use disorder UH and dependence on marijuana, alcohol, cocaine, opioids, 998 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 3: and tobacco, we're more likely to contract the virus after 999 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,919 Speaker 3: even both of their vaccination shots. Those without SUD saw 1000 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 3: a three point six percent rate of breakthrough infections compared 1001 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 3: to a seven percent rate for those with a SUD. 1002 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 2: Now they say substance use disorder. 1003 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 3: I wonder if that's more like addiction than like an 1004 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 3: occasional use. 1005 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 7: I think that's probably for people that they would consider addicted. 1006 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, seven point eight percent of those with marijuana use 1007 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 3: disorder were most at risk for breakthrough infections. Among other substances, 1008 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 3: the risks disappeared with considerings issues such as underline health 1009 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: conditions and social economic status. 1010 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 2: But those are two big wind considerings. 1011 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the way they framed that, I was like, oh, y'all. 1012 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 7: Y'all are talking about people that are like addicted, addicted 1013 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 7: to DC. 1014 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 2: Well, that's what they're saying. But also it's not causality 1015 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 2: equals you know, whatever. 1016 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 3: Correlation doesn't need equal causality because the study doesn't directly 1017 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 3: link marijuana used to it. 1018 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 2: So it's kind of. 1019 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 3: Like makes me feel like a little bit of the 1020 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 3: headlines of the marijuana panic, you know, where it's like, 1021 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 3: do weed that was really killing airy money? 1022 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 7: So I would probably do another study. Yeah, I probably 1023 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 7: wait for how many people in this study? That's my question. 1024 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 7: They were like, we did a whole eight people. You 1025 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 7: were like, come on, now, come on now. That don't 1026 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 7: make no sense. 1027 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 3: And it's limited to substance use disorder, which is a 1028 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 3: very small percentage of users, right, So I think the 1029 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 3: headline is more slatious than the study was. 1030 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: The US is the left pandemic error. 1031 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 3: Travel restrictions along the Canadian and Mexican border for those 1032 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 3: who are vaccinated. Once again, this is an important messaging 1033 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 3: because people will go, oh, man, I don't understand this 1034 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 3: makes messaging. 1035 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: What can I do? 1036 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 3: Well, if you're not vaccinating, you can do the same 1037 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 3: thing that they've been telling you do, which is stay 1038 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 3: you ass in the house and don't do shit. Right, 1039 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: So before anybody says they were confused by this, understand 1040 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 3: nothing's changed if you're not vaccinate, NATed, and you shouldn't 1041 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 3: be doing shit. 1042 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 2: So you know what I mean. 1043 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 3: Like if people are gonna later blame some of this 1044 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 3: ship on that minute in the administration, but that's pretty 1045 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 3: straightforward and that that hasn't changed. 1046 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 2: A teacher was arrested after allegedly. 1047 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 3: Threatening to shoot officials over a plastic COVID barrier? 1048 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 2: What what is the reason? 1049 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 10: Uh? 1050 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 5: What the barrier ever do to them? 1051 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 3: An elementary school teacher in Pennsylvania was arrested after allegedly 1052 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 3: threaten to shoot school district officials because janitors, wait a minute, 1053 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 3: removed a plastic barrier that he set up in his 1054 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 3: classroom to protect against the spread. 1055 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 5: Oh. 1056 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 7: He was like, bitch, what you ain't gonna do is 1057 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,279 Speaker 7: take this down. Don't go, don't get fuck hold on. 1058 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,800 Speaker 2: I might I might be on his side. 1059 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 5: No, I think it was like the genders do my 1060 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 5: do my stuff away? 1061 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 7: And you know he paid for that ship out of 1062 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 7: his own pocket because they don't cry nothing. 1063 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 8: You give me the. 1064 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 11: Doctun respect you with den we want yourself or I 1065 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 11: will kick your You are. 1066 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 2: Suspended, David. That's what the suspension was like, Yes, you 1067 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 2: give me. 1068 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 11: The doctun respect you with den we want yourself or 1069 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 11: I will kick your You are suspended. 1070 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 2: Hut, that's up right now. Doubt that was him flipping 1071 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 2: over the plastic barrier. 1072 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,880 Speaker 3: He allegedly went Flissa got that janitor removed his makeshift 1073 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 3: COVID nineteen barrier, and he was suspended suspended by the 1074 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 3: school pending an investigation. 1075 00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 2: A criminal complaint Wow was fouled. Uh In detailed. 1076 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 3: That a cafeteria worker over her Garregh threating to shoot 1077 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 3: all them fuckers. 1078 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 5: As he take it time of y'all. 1079 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 7: Somebody is I'm telling y'all, non vaccinating, anti mask people 1080 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 7: think they only folks mad. 1081 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 2: Other people is mad to the video. 1082 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 3: Teacher also allegedly threatened to come to school and spread 1083 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 3: COVID to everyone I can if he ended up affected 1084 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 3: with the virus. 1085 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 2: Man, I really didn't think. 1086 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 3: I'd be on this person's side, like my school, shooting 1087 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 3: up the school. 1088 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 5: But I get this bitch. Everybody everybody getting because I'm 1089 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 5: trying not to. I got to be here because they 1090 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 5: told me I had to be here. 1091 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 7: I rather have my black ass at home eighteen months 1092 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 7: into the pandemic. 1093 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna beel like, I don't mean he got some points, 1094 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 2: so man, I mean, oh man, yeah, he. 1095 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 5: Was like, I'm trying to do everything and y'all throwing 1096 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 5: my shit away. Yeah, I mean sure, like what the hella? 1097 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 5: What what else am I supposed to do? 1098 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 2: Right? Oh man? 1099 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 5: So yeah, you won't we cry mass. 1100 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 7: You know the kids can't get vaccinated. You know, I'm 1101 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,280 Speaker 7: dealing with stupid ass parents. 1102 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 5: The fuck he made some points, points were made. 1103 00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that. I'll just leave it 1104 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 2: at that and move on for our. 1105 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 3: Same thing that that's completely hypocritical. But you know, I mean, obviously, 1106 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 3: don't shoot. 1107 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 2: Up the school. But I mean I understand he's like, 1108 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm trying doing everything. I cannot to catch this shit. 1109 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: If I have to teaching the bubble, teaching a bubble, 1110 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,360 Speaker 3: y'all out here taking my bubboloid? 1111 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 4: Right? 1112 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 5: The hell is this? 1113 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 2: These little motherfuckers ain't vaccinated. Now I gotta die because 1114 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: they parents stupid. 1115 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 3: Come on now, come on, COVID nineteen vaccination will no 1116 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 3: longer be required to attend Coachella U, but you will 1117 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 3: have to get prove a negative COVID test within seventy 1118 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 3: two hours of arrival instead of the vaccine. But they said, 1119 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: after seeing how low the transmission data successful implementation of 1120 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 3: safety procles our festivals recently, we feel confident we can 1121 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 3: safely update our policy for Coachella. I actually agree with this, 1122 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 3: and I think it's true. I think one, vaccinated people 1123 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 3: are less likely to spread or get infected. Now we 1124 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 3: know vaccines work too. They're doing this because it's data driven, 1125 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 3: it seems because they have. 1126 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 2: They they held the first coach Oil. 1127 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 3: And everybody was like, you can't do that, and then 1128 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 3: it turns out nobody got infected because they was like, 1129 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 3: you can't even get up in here without the mask, 1130 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 3: the vaccinations and all that shit, right, And so I think. 1131 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: They've done enough. 1132 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 3: You know, they've done other shows and stuff since then. 1133 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 3: I think they're like, yeah, the vaccinations, the mask and 1134 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 3: social distancing work. And also let's add in, if you've 1135 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 3: been tested negative and you don't current it doesn't seem 1136 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 3: that you currently have it, you can come in too, 1137 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 3: you know. 1138 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:41,879 Speaker 2: I think that's fine. 1139 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 3: I think we're gonna have to get used to living 1140 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 3: with this because there's a level of like risk aversion 1141 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 3: that some people are not gonna comply with. And if 1142 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 3: you can get if you can get the well, okay, 1143 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 3: you at least you tested negative, then maybe that lowers 1144 00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 3: the risk a lot for lot of people. But it's 1145 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 3: in addition to those other you know things, because it 1146 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 3: didn't say they didn't say we're letting people in, we're 1147 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 3: not checking vaccination. They said you can be vaccinated or 1148 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 3: you can also bring in this test. 1149 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 5: So it's in addition too. 1150 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And to be honest, they could be even 1151 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 3: bigger sticklers if they wanted to. I think the safest 1152 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 3: thing would probably be like vaccinated and you need a 1153 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 3: test or something like that. But I don't think a 1154 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 3: business in America anyway. I don't think that's probably not 1155 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 3: very profitable, So they're probably gonna yeah, like I said, 1156 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 3: and I think stuff like this is what we need 1157 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 3: to happen so we can see what this does. 1158 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: Like, are we at a point where they do this 1159 00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 2: and then three. 1160 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 3: Weeks later we're like, oh, this is a super spreader event, 1161 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,439 Speaker 3: or are we gonna be like last time where people 1162 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 3: thought it would be a super spreader. 1163 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 2: Event turns out it was fine. 1164 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 7: Okay, okay, and I'm not even gonna lie because of 1165 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 7: my bias and my hearing. That's why I was like, 1166 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 7: wait a minute. But like you say, it is in 1167 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 7: addition too, not that everybody can come in here you 1168 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:02,320 Speaker 7: just have to show a test. 1169 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's in addition, like you can be vaccinated, 1170 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 3: but if you don't, if you're not vaccinated, then you 1171 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 3: need to come in here with a negative test. 1172 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 2: Okay. I think it's that's reasonable. That's reasonable. 1173 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: To me. 1174 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 3: You know, because unless you're in one of these cities 1175 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 3: where everyone has to be vaccinated for everything, this is 1176 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 3: gonna be the alternative, and not every city is gonna 1177 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 3: be able to pull off those mandates, at least not yet. 1178 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 3: Maine can bar religious exemptions to COVID nineteen vaccine mandated 1179 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 3: judge rules good. 1180 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 2: Because those religions, but those exemptions are bullshit and the 1181 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: stupid like you vaccinated? What the fuck are you talking about? 1182 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: Like like that's. 1183 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 3: What like all the religious ship is stupid because it's 1184 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 3: just like I know religious people that's vaccinated that they 1185 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 3: didn't they didn't go I'm getting. 1186 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,520 Speaker 2: Vaccinated, but rod, I gotta tell you, it's a sin. 1187 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I shouldn't have did this. I feel so guilty 1188 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 3: getting vaccinated. There's nothing in the Bible why you shouldn't 1189 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 3: get vaccinated. It's just it's that American religious freedom that 1190 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,800 Speaker 3: normally ends up being religious. 1191 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 2: Trampling on other people's rights. 1192 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,839 Speaker 3: Uh, it's that bullshit again, masquerading as some type of independence. 1193 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 2: But nah, you have no biblical reason you can't give 1194 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 2: you can't get vaccinated, you don't. 1195 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: Chicago police union chief tells officers withhold your vaccination status 1196 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 3: because the city is demandating that the police officers get vaccinated. 1197 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 3: And there he's the fucking police union chief and he's 1198 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 3: telling them, Nah, don't don't tell them that you would. 1199 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 3: Don't tell them if you've been vaccinated or not, because 1200 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 3: they can't fire us all. 1201 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 7: Basically that and also he don't want the truth out, 1202 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 7: which is, you know, if we did that a higher 1203 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 7: percentage than what they think, it's probably vaccinating. 1204 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 3: They said it's safe to say that the city of 1205 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: Chicago will have a police force at fifty percent or 1206 00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 3: less this weekend coming up, basically saying if Mayor Lori 1207 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 3: Lightfoot says you have to be vaccinated. 1208 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 2: We have less, we have like half and half. So 1209 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: they know that the numbers are low. 1210 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,600 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, they're basically just putting their foot down, like, 1211 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 3: fuck y'all, what you're gonna do? 1212 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: Firesaft. 1213 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 3: Now, what I think is interesting about that is five 1214 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 3: times as many police officers have died from COVID nineteen 1215 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 3: as from gunfire since the part started a pandemic. 1216 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, they dying from that. I think that's the number 1217 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 5: one thing for them, man, right now, ain't it? 1218 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 3: It's literally to me it's suicide by COVID. These officers 1219 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,880 Speaker 3: have so aligned themselves with right wing politics, and right 1220 00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 3: wing politics are so aligned itself with being an anti 1221 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 3: vaccine that this is the positionary. 1222 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 5: And also the truth be told. They're calling that bluff. 1223 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,919 Speaker 7: And if they still say, oh, you lose your job 1224 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 7: like everything else, them numbers will jump because motherfuckers are 1225 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 7: not giving up their jobs. Like, I don't know why 1226 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 7: they think that people are willing to die on the 1227 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,280 Speaker 7: goddamn sword for fucking COVID. If they turned around to 1228 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 7: be like, we don't care, we'll get rid of you, 1229 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 7: use of the public, and we don't want you out 1230 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 7: here spreading the coronavirus and filling up our hospital. 1231 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,440 Speaker 5: If they turned around and said. 1232 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 7: Okay, bet take that shit to trial, bitch, let's go, 1233 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 7: the numbers would be sixty seventy. 1234 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, man, I wish we were bold enough to do this, 1235 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 3: and I know it's probably will put every city under 1236 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 3: major strain to do this, right, but I swear to God, 1237 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 3: every municipality, especially those that heavily have black people living there, 1238 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 3: should just go ahead and do the same broad sweeping 1239 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 3: like get the fuck out there, because I honestly, I 1240 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:50,920 Speaker 3: honestly think vaccination unvaccination, being unvaccinated correlates so heavily with 1241 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 3: being conservative, right wing and probably either abusive or complicit 1242 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 3: in abuse. Because I'm not I'm not a person that 1243 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 3: simplifies it down to like every single cop that joins 1244 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 3: the force is just you know, I know that's not true, 1245 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 3: but I bet you the ven diagram of the cops 1246 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 3: who are like I am staunchly against being vaccinated, and 1247 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 3: I am staunchly again for trampling over citizens' rights, especially 1248 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 3: those are black and brown people. I bet you that's 1249 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 3: a fucking circle. And I think that every department that 1250 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 3: gets rid of these people will be better off for 1251 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 3: than five to ten years if they hire some other 1252 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 3: people who are willing to be vaccinated. 1253 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: I think it's sad. 1254 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 3: But this is the closest thing some of these cities 1255 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 3: will ever have to opportunity for police reform. 1256 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 5: And cleaning house, if that's what it causes. 1257 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 7: And also clearing house, not not even by force, clearing 1258 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 7: house by allowing them. 1259 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 2: Self selected to be out. Yes, you did, you know? 1260 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 3: And the power trip and the ego and the hero 1261 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 3: worship that we've given these folks is wow, you know 1262 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's yeah, it's some wild ship. 1263 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 3: So FDA panel unanimously recommends Withdurner COVID booster shots for. 1264 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 2: At risk adults. 1265 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 3: So let's go Fizer and now Madarner. Someone told me 1266 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 3: Johnson and Johnson. I'm not I haven't checked that one yet. 1267 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I know that they've been talking about it. 1268 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 7: And you know, they also been talking about mixing and matching. 1269 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 7: They did a study on that, and they were saying 1270 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 7: that they're in the talks of saying that people possibility 1271 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 7: that people can mix and match their shots, and they were 1272 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 7: talking about they may have it where people know Johnson 1273 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 7: and Johnson can get one of the other ones to 1274 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 7: get one of the other booster shots. 1275 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 3: Well, I just got I just clicked on the link. 1276 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 3: FDA panel naturally recommends J and J boosters as well. Okay, yeah, 1277 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 3: so that's good. 1278 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1279 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 7: And the thing is everybody don't happen yet, because you know, 1280 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 7: some people try to get their booster shots and they 1281 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 7: were saying that they couldn't get them, or. 1282 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,880 Speaker 2: You have to wait six months. There's a there's a 1283 01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,040 Speaker 2: thing to it, you know. 1284 01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 3: But another thing I throw out there for people with 1285 01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 3: the with this is they're starting to prove the kids. 1286 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,120 Speaker 3: And one of the worries that people have is this 1287 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 3: uh like heart information, heart issues with kids, which is 1288 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 3: extremely rare with the vaccines. But I was listening to 1289 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 3: this doctor talk about it the other day and he 1290 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 3: was like, yes, but unvaccinated people who get COVID are 1291 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 3: six thousand times more. 1292 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Likely to have those heart issues. 1293 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 3: Yes, So if you're making the choice for your child, 1294 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 3: even like, should I go with the slight chance, the 1295 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 3: point one percent chance that my child is possibly going 1296 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 3: to suffer from this? And I think it keep in 1297 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,920 Speaker 3: mind hasn't killed anybody, But you'll have to go to 1298 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 3: the doctor and get certain medications and stuff. Should I 1299 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 3: take that point one percent chance of my kid or 1300 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,959 Speaker 3: should I take this chance that's six thousand times more likely. 1301 01:02:59,800 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 1302 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 3: If they get coronavirus, they'll have this long term effect. 1303 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely wanted to put that out there 1304 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 3: because I think perspective is what's needed. Because if you 1305 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 3: look at the articles, they'll just throw the title on 1306 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 3: there and be like doctors concerned about heart things. You're like, 1307 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,479 Speaker 3: oh man, well I'm not getting vaccinated. Then you read 1308 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 3: further and you listen to the doctors like, yeah, but also, 1309 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 3: if you get coronavirus, you gotta. 1310 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: Get this heart thing. 1311 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 7: So and guess why they skip over. It's at the 1312 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 7: Bible the article. All right, let's talk about some other news. 1313 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Cardi B. 1314 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 3: She said she stopped talking about politics because she was 1315 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: tired of getting bullied. 1316 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Oknor, I'll see what you're saying. 1317 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 11: Uh. 1318 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 2: The New York native and rapper Cardi B. 1319 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 3: Is known to stay true to us she believes in, 1320 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 3: including politics. On Thursday, Fan asked the mother too, what 1321 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 3: happened to her talking about politics and political matters. 1322 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 2: She said, I used to talk about politics and political matters. 1323 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 2: What happened with that, they usual asked. 1324 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 3: Cardi responded about saying I was tired of getting bullied 1325 01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 3: by Republicans and also getting bashed by the same people are. 1326 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Standing up for. 1327 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,200 Speaker 5: There's a thankless job. 1328 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah uh, And of course people. What's funny is. 1329 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 3: People were in the fucking chat saying bully and shit. 1330 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 3: So I said, because you sound like you're slow when 1331 01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 3: you talk, and it was ruining everything, point right, And 1332 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 3: she was fonded by saying, it's the only way you 1333 01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,479 Speaker 3: would understand me as a joke. But yeah, I don't, 1334 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 3: I don't even. I think this is kind of what's 1335 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 3: gonna happen for a lot of people because the people 1336 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 3: that are even quote unquote on your side, social media 1337 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 3: kind of encourages them to be mean and bullying and 1338 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 3: gang up on people and shit like that. And so 1339 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 3: you say one thing that can either be taken out 1340 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,400 Speaker 3: of context, or you say one thing that's wrong because 1341 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 3: you just don't know when you're still learning. 1342 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 2: These motherfuckers have no roofs. They are just like, this 1343 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 2: is how you. 1344 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 3: Fucked up, and now you're all these iss obis and 1345 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 3: all this shit. And so people like a lot of 1346 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 3: these celebrities are realizing like, oh, it's just better to 1347 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 3: kind of just keep my distance and. 1348 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 2: Not see social media. 1349 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,720 Speaker 3: As because I think a lot of them also just 1350 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 3: like most of the people on social media that talk 1351 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:20,240 Speaker 3: about these things, it's kind of a social reward system 1352 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 3: to be the person that talks about this shit. 1353 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1354 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 7: And the thing is Karni and other people, they're of 1355 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,760 Speaker 7: a different generation where they were raised up with social 1356 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 7: media was your lifeline. 1357 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 2: Like social media, it's literally why she's famous. 1358 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 7: Right, And so now the thing that brought her to 1359 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 7: fame is actually turning against her. But now she's to 1360 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 7: the point where she's more famous, So now she can 1361 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 7: actually opt out, you know, She go, I don't have 1362 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 7: to be. 1363 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,120 Speaker 2: Here, you know. 1364 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 7: And the thing is, it took her a while to 1365 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,800 Speaker 7: get to that point, and not everybody's going to get there, 1366 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 7: but it took her a while to say, Hey, I 1367 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 7: don't got to participate. I don't have to jump in 1368 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,280 Speaker 7: everything every time something come up. I don't have to 1369 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 7: put in my two cent. I'm not obligated to. But 1370 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 7: before she felt obligated to, but now she doesn't feel 1371 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 7: that obligation. And the people that was only there for 1372 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 7: the mess or all the side out of the only 1373 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 7: people asking her like, hey, why ain't you out. 1374 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 5: Here starting the shit show and falling out. 1375 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 7: With everybody, And and the thing is, you could tell 1376 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 7: it was emotionally draining for her because she bey on 1377 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 7: social media that she'd get off everything that she be 1378 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 7: on it. Then she get off and she'd talk about 1379 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 7: how people talking to her crazy, and you know, and 1380 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 7: now hopefully she's found a balance, and everybody, even in 1381 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 7: your normal, regular ass life. 1382 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 5: Has to find a balance. She just happened to be 1383 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 5: famous and found this balance. 1384 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's. 1385 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 3: Not going to be a positive experience all the time, 1386 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent for people. 1387 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: And uh, that's kind. 1388 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 3: Of what people are on social media for as a 1389 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 3: positive experience one hundred percent all the time. And you know, 1390 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 3: as someone in the focal point of that as a celebrity, 1391 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm sure that sucks when you get something wrong or 1392 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 3: when you don't get it wrong. But people just side 1393 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,919 Speaker 3: this means something fucked up, and like I said, they're 1394 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,880 Speaker 3: not nice about it. And it really can be the 1395 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 3: same group of people because the people you know, this 1396 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 3: happens all the time with me when I make a 1397 01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 3: thread about something that is political on social media. 1398 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 2: I'll look at the people who. 1399 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 3: Start following me, and even though I would say the 1400 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 3: majority of the stuff I talk about on social media 1401 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 3: is not necessarily political, the people that follow me based 1402 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 3: off of those tweets are looking for that type of 1403 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 3: content all the time. And sometimes they'll end up sticking 1404 01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 3: around because they're like, oh, he's just a silly dude 1405 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 3: that makes jokes about all kinds of shit. But sometimes 1406 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 3: you know, those people will I'll make some other thing 1407 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 3: reference or thing. 1408 01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:51,360 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't think this is okay, and it's. 1409 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 7: Just I didn't follow you for this. 1410 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 3: And so I think that's kind of gotta be times 1411 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 3: a million for a celebrity, you know. 1412 01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 2: But also, like I said, she. 1413 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,640 Speaker 3: I brought this up a long time ago at CARTI, 1414 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 3: and I thought it was kind of a little bit, 1415 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 3: even for a lot of the black people that were 1416 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 3: quote unquote rooting for her to say certain things, A 1417 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 3: little bit of it felt reductive, because part of it 1418 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 3: felt like people were saying a person like her knowing 1419 01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 3: anything about politics is essentially like a human patrick like, yes, like, 1420 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:33,240 Speaker 3: we don't expect this from her, even those of us 1421 01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 3: who are now celebrating it. We're really celebrating it on 1422 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 3: some like except like this kind of person should have 1423 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 3: never been talking about but look she's doing it, y'all, 1424 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 3: and she's saying with you know, it's like when people 1425 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 3: would throw up like Meghan and Staging has a degree 1426 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 3: or something, it's like yeah, but also she's a really 1427 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 3: dope rapper and isn't that like the thing like none 1428 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,840 Speaker 3: of us are in class with her, right, So like 1429 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 3: we're kind of doing the same respect ability shit you're 1430 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,719 Speaker 3: claiming you're against like like, yes, she got a degree, 1431 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 3: that's cool. You know, no one's against to going to 1432 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,760 Speaker 3: college and and shit, but you are definitely put in 1433 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 3: the same level of like importance on that shit, like 1434 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 3: which to me more buising to the system of hierarchy 1435 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:25,640 Speaker 3: of these things than pushes against it, you know. So 1436 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 3: I think, you know, but not, like I said, it's 1437 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,719 Speaker 3: not to say those people are terrible people or nothing, 1438 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 3: but it just always made me feel weird. So I 1439 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 3: never really I don't give extra credit for that kind 1440 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,759 Speaker 3: of shit because it's just like, yeah, yeah, that's good. 1441 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 2: But I'm being honest. If Megan Stallion bars is whack, I. 1442 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 3: Just wouldn't be fucking with her when give fuck she 1443 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 3: had seven degrees, So like, I'm just understanding what I'm 1444 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 3: in this for. I'm like, oh, she's an amazing rapper 1445 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 3: and she's beautiful and. 1446 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,439 Speaker 2: Giving you the sick visuals and shit. 1447 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 3: If Little nas X ran for Congress, I'd be like, 1448 01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 3: that's cool. But if the songs ain't jamming, I'm not there. 1449 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. That's that's really what 1450 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,559 Speaker 2: I'm in this for. 1451 01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,120 Speaker 3: And that's fine, you know it's and I think that's 1452 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 3: one of the things that keeps me from being too 1453 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 3: upset about celebrities when they quote unquote disappoint people, because 1454 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 3: it's like, I wasn't in it for Kyrie Irvin's hotel 1455 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 3: memes and anti vaxstance. I was in it because he 1456 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 3: had really dope dribbling skills and I love the Uncle Drew. 1457 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,360 Speaker 2: That's what I came for. So he hasn't let me 1458 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 2: down on that end. 1459 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 3: Really, like, he still probably got handles and he's still 1460 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,800 Speaker 3: gonna probably make Uncle Drew too, although. 1461 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 2: They had to have some different virus restrictions on set. 1462 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, so I think that's one of the things 1463 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,640 Speaker 3: that was weird about that Cardi thing, because then the 1464 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 3: second she is off point, those same people turn on 1465 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 3: her with the vitrioll that they reserved for all these 1466 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: people that they wanted to aim her at, right, you know, 1467 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 3: And I think that that has to suck because you're like, oh, 1468 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 3: y'all aren't really rooting for me. 1469 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 7: And the reality of that came in and I'm glad 1470 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 7: that she's found this place, whatever, this place of piece 1471 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 7: is for her. And a lot of times when it 1472 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 7: comes to uh, social media, a lot of people consume 1473 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 7: social media all the time and they feel like, just 1474 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,960 Speaker 7: because I consume it all the time, you could you 1475 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 7: you're obligated to consume it as much as I consume it. 1476 01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 7: And when people don't, people think you're weird or strange 1477 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 7: and something's wrong with you. When I'm gonna tell you 1478 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,599 Speaker 7: right now, about ten years ago, people used to think 1479 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 7: it was something wrong with you for being on social media, 1480 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 7: like you own that you're on the internet like and 1481 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 7: it's almost it's almost did a reverse where people think 1482 01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 7: something's wrong if you break away from the Norman but like, nah, 1483 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 7: I'm good, I'm barely on it. I got rid of Facebook, 1484 01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 7: I got I leave my apps off my phone and 1485 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,559 Speaker 7: people think something's wrong with you, because you know, for everybody, 1486 01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 7: I don't care who you are, it is an addiction. 1487 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 7: And that's something once you realize it's an addiction, and 1488 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 7: it's like you have to realize how how how much 1489 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,680 Speaker 7: of this addiction? Am I willing to take? Am I 1490 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 7: gonna am am? Am I gonna on the fuck around 1491 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:01,839 Speaker 7: and go. 1492 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 5: Balls to the walls on this drug? Or am I 1493 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 5: gonna do snort a little bit at a time. 1494 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,400 Speaker 7: Either way, it's still an addiction, you know, because none 1495 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 7: of us are actually completely free from social media because 1496 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 7: depending on what you do and in your job and 1497 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 7: things like that, you have to have some connection to online. 1498 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 5: You can't completely. 1499 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 7: Divorce yourself from it, but you have to have a 1500 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 7: healthy balance, you know. You have to say every day 1501 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,000 Speaker 7: you have to make a conscious decision on how much 1502 01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 7: of this will I allow to consume my time? And 1503 01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 7: also what I realized about social media and this is 1504 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 7: just me on the outside. A lot of times people 1505 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 7: can be so consumed by things that happen on social 1506 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 7: media that they sound like a fucking lunatic to people 1507 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 7: that are not online. You'll start talking about people and 1508 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 7: talking about things and talking about and to you they 1509 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 7: are like the top of the line of people. 1510 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 5: Go who what? 1511 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 1: I don't know who that is? 1512 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,639 Speaker 5: Don't go the fuck about that? You know who is this? People? 1513 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 7: No, I watched you know, the the eleven o'clock in 1514 01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 7: six am and four am local news. 1515 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 5: And that what they're talking about on NPI. So what 1516 01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 5: the fuck are you talking about? 1517 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Your sound nuts? 1518 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know if Cardi was ever that 1519 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 3: deep down the rabbit hole, but I think I think 1520 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 3: this is also to me another reason why the pushing 1521 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,960 Speaker 3: and pulling up celebrities to like hop into these things 1522 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 3: with both feet, when you know for a fact they're 1523 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,240 Speaker 3: doing it for social pressure because you're telling them, you know, 1524 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 3: when people say shit like silence is complicitness and they're like, 1525 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 3: But not always, because there's times when people aren't talking 1526 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 3: because they don't know what the fuck they're talking about, 1527 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 3: and they recognize their place in the system and go, 1528 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be talking about this because I don't know. 1529 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,160 Speaker 3: And if I say some shit half half knowing, or 1530 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 3: just repeating some some memes and some other shit I've seen, 1531 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,519 Speaker 3: I think some people will glimb onto that. 1532 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 2: But that's not really educating yourself? Are you reading about it? 1533 01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 2: Are you following these stories? 1534 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 3: And a lot of stuff was like Cardi could make 1535 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 3: like a basic point and then it would go super 1536 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 3: viral because of how popular she is, But it could 1537 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 3: it could be a basic point that that doesn't really 1538 01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 3: mean or matter to many, Like it doesn't really say 1539 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 3: much other than at least. 1540 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 2: Cardi said it too. 1541 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 3: And that's not really respecting her for her thoughts and 1542 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 3: her opinion. That's respecting her because she mirrored what you 1543 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 3: what you want her to say. If she would have 1544 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 3: come out and make a different point, that she just 1545 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 3: as much like, okay, people were saying this now people 1546 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,600 Speaker 3: have been like, nah, fuck you, you know. 1547 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,879 Speaker 2: What I mean. So I think it's very casual. 1548 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 3: You can casually throw these people away, and I bet 1549 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 3: people are getting tired of being thrown away. And uh, 1550 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,840 Speaker 3: you know, I watched We're watching it happen with no name, 1551 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 3: where she heavily pushed and influence our social media dragged 1552 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 3: at one point into basically like now I'm the I'm 1553 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 3: a socialist communist for the people liberation blah blah blah. 1554 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 3: And then the second she raised money to get a library, 1555 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,000 Speaker 3: which I think is an admirable thing. I mean, you know, 1556 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 3: it's like like how we're kind of referred to with 1557 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,360 Speaker 3: stuck as black people in this thing where like you 1558 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 3: can affect only but so much change and there's only 1559 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,240 Speaker 3: so many avenues you can do. So yeah, your benevolence 1560 01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 3: and stuff is cool. But then people start looking at 1561 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 3: how much a part of the system you are for 1562 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 3: getting in that room or getting that that resource, or 1563 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 3: getting to that money. And now she's starting to catch 1564 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,280 Speaker 3: it from people and it's like, yeah, man, this is 1565 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 3: this is it's a big ass fucking hunger game. 1566 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 1567 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 2: Some hooter servers on. 1568 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 3: TikTok are saying their new shorts are too short. It's 1569 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 3: wild because like, weren't the shorts already. 1570 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,559 Speaker 7: Too short right in in in in the in the top, 1571 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 7: so like like suck stuck on them? 1572 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the new short? So those are the new 1573 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 2: hooter shorts. Those are shorts, okay? 1574 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 7: And then oh, oh my god, this it went from 1575 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 7: shrust to thongs. 1576 01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:56,040 Speaker 5: The fuck is that? 1577 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 2: Because if you have. 1578 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 7: Any type of a butt, they're gonna suck them in, 1579 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 7: like your literally your butt chicks is gonna be out. 1580 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:03,320 Speaker 4: Wo. 1581 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 5: Yes, that's the mother fucking problem. 1582 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 3: I guess they're really trying to get people back in 1583 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 3: the restaurant, uh or something that. 1584 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 5: Was like the tittters ain't gonna be enough. 1585 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, this ain't. 1586 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,760 Speaker 5: No strip club. I would have a problem too. I'm 1587 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 5: not wearing that. 1588 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're basically saying if you have any but it's 1589 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 3: just stuck up your butt all day. 1590 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,200 Speaker 2: Yes, they said they're like underwear. 1591 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,320 Speaker 5: That's what it looked like. It It literally went from 1592 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:30,560 Speaker 5: shorts to draws. 1593 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 4: Wow. 1594 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 3: First of all, I don't appreciate this because if you're 1595 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 3: gonna do this, you need to change the branding. You 1596 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,639 Speaker 3: need to make it hooters and cheeks, Okay, because yeah, 1597 01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 3: because I mean now you're showing off butts too, and 1598 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 3: I feel like that's you know, people walk in there 1599 01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 3: and they're not gonna. 1600 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,599 Speaker 2: Be prepared for all that. Also, I don't know if 1601 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 2: people want to see like butts. 1602 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,680 Speaker 5: Why they're eating right in my thing. 1603 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 3: I mean, I know people want to see butts all 1604 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 3: the time shots on Instagram, but like, I think it's 1605 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 3: a different experience when like that's the person holding your food, 1606 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 3: like they gotta pull a wedgie out. 1607 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, And it's completely different. If I'm going to somewhere 1608 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,439 Speaker 7: a strip club, like you know what I'm saying, Like 1609 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 7: I'm prepared to look at asses. 1610 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 3: Then, but even at the strip club, like the waiter, 1611 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,280 Speaker 3: is it the person that was just on the stage, Okay, 1612 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 3: okay like that, Like I think it's a different I 1613 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 3: think they're asking a lot. 1614 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 7: And my thing is this, you know, one hundred percent, 1615 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,639 Speaker 7: that's some shit that a fucking man approved because it's 1616 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 7: one of those things where you they're actually sitting theirself 1617 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 7: up for a fucking loss. 1618 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 3: Or no, I mean men are stupid, like a dude 1619 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,719 Speaker 3: will go up in that restaurant and get the motherfucking 1620 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,720 Speaker 3: pink eye for sure. Like they don't like men. You 1621 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,680 Speaker 3: can't let men. You can't let men make health decisions 1622 01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 3: based around whether someone's exposing their body or not, because 1623 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 3: men are the fucking weakest link. 1624 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 7: Right No, No, I mean somebody on executive board looked 1625 01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:56,280 Speaker 7: and was like, what is our new uniform gonna be? 1626 01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 5: Everybody said yay, they sent that out, and the woman 1627 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:00,360 Speaker 5: was like, the fuck is this? 1628 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 2: No, I'm agreeing with you. 1629 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,400 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm saying you can't let me. This is 1630 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 3: why you can't let them, because they will one make 1631 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 3: the stupid decision of like, hey, how can we get 1632 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,240 Speaker 3: eat coli in the food? That seems smart to me. 1633 01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,760 Speaker 3: At least I got to see some cheeks on this deathbed. 1634 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,400 Speaker 5: Right, and what's so fucking up? 1635 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:25,120 Speaker 7: Nobody thought about the lawsuit from employee going y'all came 1636 01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 7: at me with draws to work. 1637 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know about the I'm gonna be honest 1638 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,759 Speaker 3: with you, caring. I think that that ship has been sunk. 1639 01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 3: And Hooters about what you can make people wear to work. 1640 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 2: I think, I mean, shorts is fine. 1641 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 5: But I mean I'm with. 1642 01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,640 Speaker 2: We're talking about Hooters care, so I don't think. 1643 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm missing the point. 1644 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:46,799 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 1645 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 3: I think dress code lawsuits probably been out the window 1646 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 3: for Hooters. 1647 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Look what they make them wear. 1648 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 3: Before this, It wasn't like it was like, oh now see, 1649 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,200 Speaker 3: this is when they respected these latest like come on, 1650 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,759 Speaker 3: they are I mean. 1651 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 7: I mean I expected to wear shorts. I didn't expect 1652 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 7: to wear a thung up my ass. 1653 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,800 Speaker 3: Okay here, all right, Well, good luck with the lawsuits. 1654 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody will do it. 1655 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 7: I'm sure they will not that I'm not saying they 1656 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 7: will not, but but but it's a possibility. 1657 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,120 Speaker 5: Somebody's gonna be like, this is where I draw the line. 1658 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 3: Waste the time in a in an environment, in an 1659 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 3: economy where you can't find enough workers. I'm shocked that 1660 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,879 Speaker 3: they think this is they can like that. People won't quit. 1661 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 2: Like it's already hard. 1662 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 7: You know that's not that's the voice even stronger going, 1663 01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:37,839 Speaker 7: I'm not wearing this bullshit. 1664 01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 6: I quit. 1665 01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about people on the front lines in 1666 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 3: a pandemic, Like you know, I gotta deal with drunks 1667 01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 3: and the right man. I guess for some employees, I mean, 1668 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 3: if you think about what the Hooters, the way you 1669 01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 3: make money in Hooters, for some employees it's your godsend 1670 01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 3: because it's like, listen, I ain't have a lot of titties, 1671 01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 3: but I got a lot of ass. I'm finna get 1672 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,959 Speaker 3: all the money. Like they don't fucked up your girl. 1673 01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:09,240 Speaker 5: Left and right. 1674 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 2: It wasn't enough. 1675 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,559 Speaker 3: I couldn't smush this cleavage into nothing, but I definitely 1676 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 3: can wedge this ass up and get this motherfucking money. 1677 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:18,719 Speaker 2: So come on, it's not all that. 1678 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 5: They might they might start a club. They was like, hey, y'all, 1679 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,000 Speaker 5: what's what's the best exercise to get these. 1680 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,640 Speaker 3: Cheeks right right, so we'll see the Hooters always just 1681 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 3: in a weird restaurant from me, it has it's like 1682 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,160 Speaker 3: if you're too chicken shit to go to a strip club, 1683 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 3: but you want to take your family afore so you 1684 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 3: can see some boobies and act real patriarchal come to Hooters, 1685 01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 3: and then of course every every man will say, well, 1686 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 3: they do have great wings, which is funny because it's 1687 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 3: basically I replayboy for the articles sure body, we believe you. 1688 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:55,639 Speaker 3: Netflix has fired an employee for leaking confidential financial data 1689 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 3: to Bloomberg was older than the article being pushed October 1690 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,360 Speaker 3: thirteenth that detailed the cost of Dave Chappelle's The Closer 1691 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 3: as it compared to other projects from the streaming service. 1692 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:10,320 Speaker 3: So basically, the Bloomberg piece said The Closer was twenty 1693 01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:14,040 Speaker 3: four point one million dollars his special in twenty nineteen 1694 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 3: six and Stalls is twenty three point six million dollars. 1695 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:19,719 Speaker 3: Those numbers are in comparison to three point nine million 1696 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 3: spent on bo Burnhams inside oh. 1697 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 2: Man, mm hmm maybe next time bo Yeah broke Bitch, 1698 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:28,960 Speaker 2: and the. 1699 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 3: Twenty one point four million dollars that I haven't seen 1700 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,400 Speaker 3: it yet, but from the clips I heard, that's my gym. 1701 01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:38,519 Speaker 2: Why I still haven't seen it. 1702 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:42,040 Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that's a comedy. You can watch it 1703 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,960 Speaker 3: not be too offended. Okay, the twenty one point four 1704 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:49,559 Speaker 3: million Netflix spent on the hit show Squid Game, So 1705 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 3: you got more money than even what they spent on 1706 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 3: Squid Game. 1707 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:52,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 1708 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,880 Speaker 5: The Core game is number one everywhere right now. 1709 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 3: According to internal documents, the special six and Stones special 1710 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 3: was measured in having an impact value of nineteen point 1711 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 3: four million dollars, so they kind of sounds like they've 1712 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 3: lost money on it according to their own measurements, which 1713 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,080 Speaker 3: went to special costs more than the value Netflix determined 1714 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 3: to generate it. They've long tried proud of themselves or 1715 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 3: the culture of radical transparency, a concept that top executives 1716 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,240 Speaker 3: Read Hasten and test Aronos have spoken about in the past, 1717 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,639 Speaker 3: but I guess not when it comes to this shit. 1718 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,719 Speaker 2: What's wild is that, you know, so far to fallout from. 1719 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:33,040 Speaker 3: The Chapelle specials has been Netflix employees getting in trouble, 1720 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,000 Speaker 3: and I'm not you know, to me, this is kind 1721 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,560 Speaker 3: of like any activism. 1722 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm not so fucking like. 1723 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:44,800 Speaker 3: There're gonna be some people who are looking at this 1724 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 3: very simply and they're gonna, you know, reduce this down 1725 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 3: to like, you should be able to do this at 1726 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,599 Speaker 3: your job and nothing happened to you. Now, I look 1727 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,000 Speaker 3: at it like the activism people do when they do 1728 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 3: a protest and they know I'm going to lose something 1729 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,719 Speaker 3: doing this progreest and practice. That's the bravery of it 1730 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 3: is that I know I'm going to get arrested today, 1731 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 3: but I'm going to do this because. 1732 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:07,760 Speaker 2: I think it's the right thing to do. 1733 01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:11,120 Speaker 3: And I think losing your job for doing this is 1734 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,640 Speaker 3: so a decision you make. You make that decision when 1735 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 3: you're like, and I'm probably gonna lose my job they 1736 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,000 Speaker 3: find out I did this. But I feel like it's 1737 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,519 Speaker 3: so important to tell people how much they're spending on 1738 01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,599 Speaker 3: while losing money basically on this propping up this dude, 1739 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 3: just to have them on our on our network, and 1740 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 3: how much they're not spending on other people in comparison. 1741 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,000 Speaker 3: So I think that's kind of a good point, and 1742 01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:40,639 Speaker 3: that's you know, that's sat friction mad. All right, let's 1743 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:43,000 Speaker 3: see we can go about an hour twenty. Let's start 1744 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:43,840 Speaker 3: wrapping this up. 1745 01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,799 Speaker 2: Well, let's wrap it up with something kind of fun. 1746 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,000 Speaker 3: Let's maybe do some some guests the race. 1747 01:23:52,640 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 10: All right, it's tied to catch the race. It's tied 1748 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 10: to the race. It's time to catch the race. It's 1749 01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:10,559 Speaker 10: tied to the race. 1750 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 2: Guess the race. The game. 1751 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 3: We go all around the globe, find different articles and 1752 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 3: have people guess the race of the people involved. Candays, 1753 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 3: contestants are caring, of course, and then the chat room. 1754 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,920 Speaker 3: All right, how O'Brian couldn't He had to get off 1755 01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 3: before this part, and I don't blame him. 1756 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,799 Speaker 2: Simpsons fans facing drug charges. 1757 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:33,880 Speaker 3: Two Simpsons fans are facing narcotics chargers after the traffic 1758 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,320 Speaker 3: stop Saturday afternoon in Florida yielded an assortment of drugs 1759 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 3: from inside the doors vehicle. Police say that Milton Gardner, 1760 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 3: thirty six, was behind the wheel of a Chevrolet Equinox 1761 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 3: that was pulled over on the Orlando street by Sheriff's deputies, 1762 01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 3: who reported that. 1763 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 2: The vehicles smelled of marijuana. 1764 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:56,320 Speaker 3: See The next to Gardener was Destiny Jackson Destiny. After 1765 01:24:56,360 --> 01:25:00,759 Speaker 3: the occupants exited the car at the direction of the police, 1766 01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 3: a search for of the auto turned out three baggages 1767 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,080 Speaker 3: of pot where Milton and Destiny was seated, a bagging 1768 01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 3: with cocaine residue and a plastic pipe. Gardener and Jackson 1769 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:15,160 Speaker 3: were both arrested for possession of cocaine pot android Perephernelia. 1770 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:17,440 Speaker 2: Jackson was also charged with possessing. 1771 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:24,639 Speaker 3: Fentanyl and Utah loone you the loan designer stimulant. They 1772 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 3: were busted wearing identical shirts featuring the Simpsons family members 1773 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 3: and they were about a mile from the Universal Studios Florida, 1774 01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 3: which features the Simpson themed rod and recreational Springfield landmarks 1775 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 3: like from Springfield. 1776 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:41,439 Speaker 2: Now we know where it's at. 1777 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 3: It's in Florida landmarks like most Tavern, Quickie Mart, and 1778 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 3: Krusty Berger. 1779 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,559 Speaker 2: They're free on bond and the rest of the shirt. 1780 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 2: So there you go, Karen, guess the race. 1781 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 3: All the names again, Milton, Gardener and Deston and Jackson 1782 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 3: both the same race. 1783 01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 7: I'm going to go. I'm going my first in sticks 1784 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:09,759 Speaker 7: and I'm going black. 1785 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 2: Care's going the first thing. She's going black. Let's check 1786 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:12,880 Speaker 2: the chat room. 1787 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:17,599 Speaker 3: Black black, black, black, black, a lot of blacks. It 1788 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,880 Speaker 3: was their destiny to go to jail. 1789 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: Jane. That's not a race, but that's a good punt. 1790 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 3: Uh Florida, white black black, all right. The correct answer 1791 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,320 Speaker 3: is most of y'all went black on this one, and 1792 01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:32,080 Speaker 3: you got it right. 1793 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,240 Speaker 2: A couple of one person missed it. 1794 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,680 Speaker 5: Oh they got the collage shirt on. 1795 01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,400 Speaker 3: You're getting damned there had the theme song looking at 1796 01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 3: these people, don't you know? 1797 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,440 Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know, no white Jackson's. 1798 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,120 Speaker 2: They should have gave a this is when they got caught. Like, 1799 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 2: what's your name? I see wiener? 1800 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 3: All right, let's see. How about a man stabs a 1801 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 3: woman with a seamen filled syringe? 1802 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 5: Oh what? 1803 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:29,559 Speaker 3: And he got ten years in jail, ten years behind 1804 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 3: bars for. 1805 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 2: For this, for this crime? 1806 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 3: His yeah, yeah, his name is Thomas Steamen. What a name, which, 1807 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:44,759 Speaker 3: if you take the tea out. 1808 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 2: Is Thomas Seaman. At what? What are the coincidence? 1809 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 4: Was he? 1810 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,760 Speaker 2: Like a this has is this like a Batman villain 1811 01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 2: origin story with a name just lines up? 1812 01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 5: This has to happen? 1813 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, my goodness? 1814 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:01,960 Speaker 5: Is he on your shirt? 1815 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 2: Right? Good? 1816 01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 4: Right? 1817 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the chat wearing a Batman and animated series 1818 01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 3: TV shirt. 1819 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 2: Goddamn? What are the fucking odds? Thomas steaming the semen? 1820 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,639 Speaker 4: Dude? What? 1821 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 3: Oh man? It's like the other people in his sinister 1822 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:33,040 Speaker 3: six is gonna be like, uh Simmon Sperms, Jimmy jack Off, right, 1823 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:37,360 Speaker 3: Larry Larry Loaves when we were all combined to be 1824 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,479 Speaker 3: the sentence to Steaming six, you'll never see us coming, 1825 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:42,599 Speaker 3: Spider Man, and. 1826 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:48,000 Speaker 2: We mean coming. Uh wow, Okay, I'm sorry that just 1827 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,759 Speaker 2: threw me for I don't read these before, y'all. 1828 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 5: Paul penetration. 1829 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Thomas Steaming attacked the US suspected victim February eighth, 1830 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 3: twenty Oh. We probably covered this on the show at 1831 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 3: some point, right, this seemed like the kind of thing 1832 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 3: we would cover the. 1833 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:10,120 Speaker 2: Scene and what is the what is that? What is 1834 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,040 Speaker 2: the thing there? 1835 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,719 Speaker 4: Oh? What's the thing? 1836 01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 2: Just stabbing somebody with seemen? Basically you're not insuminating them. 1837 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,600 Speaker 2: That's not even how it works. What is the what 1838 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:21,360 Speaker 2: is it? 1839 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,679 Speaker 3: He shoved the needle in her buttocks. She was unaware 1840 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,760 Speaker 3: of the needle at the time, but felt the pain immediately. 1841 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 3: She asked that attacker if he burned her with a cigarette. 1842 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 1843 01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like a beasting, didn't it, he replied. 1844 01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:36,600 Speaker 3: The victim noticed a red spot on her buttocks that 1845 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:39,320 Speaker 3: appeared to be a tiny puncture room. She says she 1846 01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,120 Speaker 3: also felt wetness and the pants following us. So the 1847 01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,200 Speaker 3: following day the red area buttons had expanded and the 1848 01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 3: woman went to the local hospital for treatment. They obtained 1849 01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 3: a surveillance obtained by the law enforces show him walking. 1850 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Closely behind her. 1851 01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,519 Speaker 3: And retrieving something from his pocket and forcing the end 1852 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,519 Speaker 3: to her. Once police I identify him, they searched, got 1853 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,920 Speaker 3: a search warrane for his home. They located additional syringers, 1854 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 3: so he was playing on doing this again or. 1855 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:07,639 Speaker 2: Had already done it. 1856 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,280 Speaker 3: They fouled liquid and then they confirmed it to be 1857 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,080 Speaker 3: seemen and the DNA licked to linked to him in 1858 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,280 Speaker 3: the grocery store assault. 1859 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:17,960 Speaker 2: He's fifty two years old. 1860 01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 3: He pleaded guilty the one kind of fellony first gris 1861 01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 3: sauce and one kind of secondary gear of assault. 1862 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:25,639 Speaker 2: In addition of receiving a decade behind. 1863 01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:27,600 Speaker 3: Bars, he also has to serve fire as the supervisor 1864 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:32,400 Speaker 3: released and get a susser's abuse at treatment and mental 1865 01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,160 Speaker 3: health evaluation. 1866 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 7: Your ass for that right, Stick me with a goddamn 1867 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:38,920 Speaker 7: needle full of seamen. 1868 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 3: Right, Oh my god, what gross Karen guess the race 1869 01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 3: white Karen's go on with white all right. 1870 01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 2: Guess the race chat room. Dude, if you're trying to 1871 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,320 Speaker 2: get women pregnant, you're doing it wrong. White perp doing 1872 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:55,320 Speaker 2: it wrong, right. I know he can't wait for the 1873 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:55,920 Speaker 2: new Hooter. 1874 01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 3: Shorts to show up, and man, ha, I mean Greg 1875 01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 3: gonna be in there with a able for two h 1876 01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 3: You're going to take these kids whether you want them 1877 01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 3: or not. White white boy always got the nastiest kink. 1878 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 3: White thinking white but going black cause of the ten 1879 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,920 Speaker 3: years white as the dick phone. Dick phone, Uh, dick phone, 1880 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 3: that's one of the members of the seamen sentence to say, 1881 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 3: uh uh. 1882 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:26,280 Speaker 2: Stay puffed, white white and white white. Most people went 1883 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 2: white on this one. The correct answer is. 1884 01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 3: White, of course, some people said one person said black. Yeah, 1885 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:49,599 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna name the show dick 1886 01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,160 Speaker 3: phone or seeming sentence to six. So don't write those 1887 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,480 Speaker 3: down because I don't want how Bride to see. 1888 01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 2: Later on when we tap into this episode. What the 1889 01:31:58,840 --> 01:31:59,920 Speaker 2: fuck did they talk about? 1890 01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,720 Speaker 3: After I got off the air, that was a reasonable 1891 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 3: conversation about blackness. 1892 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,759 Speaker 5: I thought that was some reason for human beings. 1893 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:08,800 Speaker 2: I can't promote this show. 1894 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:10,840 Speaker 3: I can't tell people I was on the scemor sentence 1895 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:15,080 Speaker 3: to sit episode of the Black Autemps is already pushing 1896 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:15,519 Speaker 3: too much. 1897 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,480 Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the bonus round. 1898 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:27,719 Speaker 4: Triple, the points triple, the points triple, triple, the points 1899 01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:31,639 Speaker 4: trip triple, points trip triple, the race triple, the points 1900 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:38,200 Speaker 4: strip triple, points triple, the points strip, points the race. 1901 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 3: A Wendy shift manager doubsed a complaining customer in hot 1902 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,919 Speaker 3: oil from a deep frire after he demanded a refund 1903 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,639 Speaker 3: for cold food. 1904 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:48,879 Speaker 2: Tennessee. 1905 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:53,840 Speaker 3: Uh Wendy's manager was arrested Wednesday after allegedly poured hot 1906 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,840 Speaker 3: frar oil on a drive through customer who demanded his 1907 01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 3: money back because his food was closed. 1908 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 2: The Marris Pritchett twenty three. 1909 01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,559 Speaker 5: You know what this is why you should pay them 1910 01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 5: fifteen thousand an hour. They didn't ye treating him night shit, 1911 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 5: he's like a. 1912 01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 3: Word was captured Dawson's Xavion Johnson with oil on camera 1913 01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:17,000 Speaker 3: at Wendy's in Huntingdon, which is about one hundred and 1914 01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,320 Speaker 3: fifteen miles from Nashville. Johnson asked for a refund at 1915 01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 3: the drive through window and argue with pretched about his food, 1916 01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,960 Speaker 3: which he said was cold. Police said the manager left 1917 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 3: the window, then return with a metal pan of frying 1918 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 3: oil and covered Johnson with it. He was taking the 1919 01:33:34,280 --> 01:33:36,800 Speaker 3: hospital is treated for burns on his left side and arm. 1920 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 3: Police say Pritcher admitted to throwing the oil at Johnson 1921 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,679 Speaker 3: was taken to jail. He was later released on five 1922 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:47,040 Speaker 3: thousand dollars bond. Bell I mean Johnson's mother told the 1923 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,880 Speaker 3: News Wednesday that here her son was in poor conditioning 1924 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,160 Speaker 3: that she helps justice to serve. This is not the 1925 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,559 Speaker 3: first incident at a Tennessee Wendy's location. 1926 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Dug, I mean. 1927 01:33:58,240 --> 01:33:59,479 Speaker 5: You Carlsborking night shift. 1928 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they brought up another incident that I don't 1929 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 3: care about. 1930 01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 2: So Carrie, guess the race of the Marias Pritchett. 1931 01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:15,439 Speaker 3: Oh black, Okay, he went to jail in his Windy's uniform, 1932 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:20,920 Speaker 3: which is interesting, Black, says Trey Black on black crime. 1933 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:25,759 Speaker 3: Black Europeans love it pouring boiling. Oh hopefully, white says hopefully, 1934 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,000 Speaker 3: doing a lot of work in that sentence. 1935 01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,920 Speaker 2: Both black as a as those burnt bits. Black, Black 1936 01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 2: likes his niggers. 1937 01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,759 Speaker 3: Oh wait, niggas hard fried fried hard black and black. 1938 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:37,920 Speaker 3: I know, I don't know why niggers came out that 1939 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,160 Speaker 3: felt nigra Like you would say niggers, but the. 1940 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,040 Speaker 2: Correct answer is black. 1941 01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:58,920 Speaker 3: One person missed it trying to trying to have some 1942 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:07,360 Speaker 3: optimism and hoping was a white person just trying to 1943 01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 3: be different, contrarian without a calls like Kyrie Irving and. 1944 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,040 Speaker 7: Y'all know what Roger's right? They did just put a 1945 01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,320 Speaker 7: convict shirt over his uniform. Was like, you know, the 1946 01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,679 Speaker 7: person changed clothes. 1947 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,599 Speaker 3: Where did they get the thing they put over him? 1948 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:27,559 Speaker 3: Because it looked like the jail outfits from Life the 1949 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,880 Speaker 3: movie with Addie Murphy and Martin Lawrence, Right, like where 1950 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,080 Speaker 3: the who's old ass nineteen twenty five jail uniforms? As 1951 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 3: these y'all don't have that orange Onesie and shit. 1952 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,599 Speaker 7: Y'all got this like it was made by Denise trying 1953 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,080 Speaker 7: to make theo's shirt. 1954 01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:45,080 Speaker 5: You're like, the fuck, Well, look up the lives look 1955 01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 5: at how I was like, who made this? 1956 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,400 Speaker 2: You for them? Also, I won't lie. 1957 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:54,720 Speaker 3: I not the victim blame, but you do wonder what 1958 01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,680 Speaker 3: kind of complaining was happening in the drive through. 1959 01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:56,840 Speaker 6: Right. 1960 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,760 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's okay, am I saying it's right. 1961 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,599 Speaker 3: You shouldn't be porn hot grease on people. This isn't 1962 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:06,559 Speaker 3: you know, someone's storming the castle. But you do gotta wonder, like, 1963 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 3: what were you saying? There's a hey man, my food 1964 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 3: was cold. I'm gonna need a refund. And then there's 1965 01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 3: a height bitch ass nigga that might get some ow thron. 1966 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,360 Speaker 3: I'm just asking questions, Okay, I'm just saying, all right, 1967 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 3: last segment. 1968 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,720 Speaker 5: Look who you calling a bitch ass nigga? Who the 1969 01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:28,240 Speaker 5: bitch now? 1970 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,400 Speaker 4: Just right? 1971 01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:40,080 Speaker 2: Last segment, Not that it's right. 1972 01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I think they get it, but I understand 1973 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 7: this is why you need paying more. 1974 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,680 Speaker 2: Man, you funk with the frogs. Get the grease. 1975 01:36:59,040 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 4: Are as important as. 1976 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:05,479 Speaker 2: Sowred ratsing this time? Let me see why is this? 1977 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,759 Speaker 3: Okay? Sored ratsing this time? Hey, y'all go to Triangle 1978 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 3: Wine Co. And their website and put in cold tbg WT. 1979 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:15,720 Speaker 3: We can check out and you can get you can 1980 01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:18,519 Speaker 3: get a percentage off of your meal, I mean of 1981 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:20,760 Speaker 3: your of your wine in the mail. I want to 1982 01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,920 Speaker 3: say it's ten percent, but you know, uh and uh 1983 01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:26,839 Speaker 3: it has a little cute graphic and for the blackout 1984 01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:31,200 Speaker 3: tips when you do that, which is really cool. I 1985 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 3: used it for our podcast art for yesterday's show, and 1986 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,960 Speaker 3: soone was like, I can't find this in the store. 1987 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, it's not technically in the store, uh, 1988 01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:45,479 Speaker 3: which is why you can't find it. But yeah, you 1989 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,000 Speaker 3: go to Triangle Wine Coo and get that ten percent 1990 01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,200 Speaker 3: off with cold tbg WT. We we love them and 1991 01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,479 Speaker 3: uh you know they they they Our house is stocked 1992 01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:58,320 Speaker 3: to the brand with wine because they send it sometimes and. 1993 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 2: We're drinking it too. Yeah. We always have a good time, 1994 01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,120 Speaker 2: you know. So all right, let's get back to this. 1995 01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,599 Speaker 12: Sowred Ratchetness Bell County of middlesbrough Man's accused of starting 1996 01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,439 Speaker 12: a fire inside a home while armed with a sword. 1997 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 12: According to the Sheriff's Department, twenty three year old Jonathan 1998 01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:16,519 Speaker 12: Raines charged with arson and criminal mischief. They say he 1999 01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,559 Speaker 12: was arrested after they received a call about a man 2000 01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,120 Speaker 12: swinging a sword inside a home on Dunlap Hollow Road. 2001 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:26,760 Speaker 12: Investigators say Reins broke into a woman's bathroom, kicking the 2002 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:30,080 Speaker 12: door off its Hinges. Deputy say he then allegedly shouted 2003 01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,559 Speaker 12: a fire inside that bathroom and stabbed the walls of 2004 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,479 Speaker 12: the room with the sword. 2005 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:41,960 Speaker 3: What there's a lot of lot of a lot of 2006 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:42,960 Speaker 3: stuff happening in that story. 2007 01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:44,200 Speaker 2: Don't make no damn What did. 2008 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,800 Speaker 5: The walls have to do with the wall? Second to 2009 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 5: cut for nothing? 2010 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,680 Speaker 2: That's my number one question too, Cam. What did the 2011 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,240 Speaker 2: walls have to do with exactly? 2012 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,599 Speaker 5: The wall's mine the name motherfucking business. 2013 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,639 Speaker 2: Here being walls holding up the ceiling. 2014 01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:58,599 Speaker 5: That's all I'm doing. 2015 01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 2: And then here this motherfucker come. 2016 01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:06,040 Speaker 3: And now it's like, oh, it's getting stabby timeh I mean, 2017 01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 3: we know that, you know, it's a great reason to 2018 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 3: stab ash woman in a house, man in the business. 2019 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,519 Speaker 3: But that's not the question. Can want's answer the fact 2020 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:18,440 Speaker 3: the walls. It's the walls. What were the walls doing? Okay, 2021 01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:20,320 Speaker 3: all right, y'all. 2022 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,639 Speaker 2: That's it. We'll be back tomorrow. Thank you for listening. 2023 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,520 Speaker 2: Until the next time, I love you. 2024 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:25,760 Speaker 4: Wow.