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Speaker 1: All right, how you doing everyone, and welcome once again

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Speaker 1: to Big Blue Kickoff Live Here, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Rouss Salisburg. Sitting next to me is Lance Meadow at

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Speaker 1: it's you out there gonna give us some calls and

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Speaker 1: have some chats and talk about what's coming up. We

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Speaker 1: know what's coming up. It will be the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: this coming Sunday in Mottown. And let's you know, cutting

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Speaker 1: right to the chase. Got to stop the bleeding. This

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Speaker 1: three game losing streak has to be made sure that

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Speaker 1: it doesn't become a four game losing streak. So the number,

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Speaker 1: I think what I said pretty much goes You know,

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Speaker 1: when you're losing three in a row, you've got to

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Speaker 1: stop the bleeding by any means necessary. Yeah. Interestingly, the

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Speaker 1: Lions have also lost three in a row RUSS, so

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Speaker 1: you've got two teams that are looking to get back

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Speaker 1: on the right track here moving forward, I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to be very interested to see what happens with

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Speaker 1: respect to ball security for the Giants and whether or

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Speaker 1: not they can put behind them some of the issues

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Speaker 1: they have with respect to turning it over, changing field position.

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Speaker 1: You know, that to me is the overwhelming issue right

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Speaker 1: now with this team eighteen turnovers minus ten turnover differential.

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Speaker 1: Until those things start heading in the opposite end of

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Speaker 1: the spectrum, it's gonna be very difficult, regardless of the competition,

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Speaker 1: to close out games. You know, I was just chatting

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Speaker 1: with um Michael Thomas uh uh I was doing to

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Speaker 1: play a profile on him for a pregame showing Fox five,

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Speaker 1: and you know, he brought out a good point. The

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Speaker 1: good players have to play great and the young guys

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Speaker 1: have to step up. That's what needs to be done

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Speaker 1: and I I think. I mean, listen, the one thing

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Speaker 1: you can't do this this game is hard enough beating yourselves.

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Speaker 1: You don't help the opponent beat You make them beat you,

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Speaker 1: but by aiding them. And of course, when you turning

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Speaker 1: the ball over as many times as you are, that

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Speaker 1: has to um. You know, that has to stop. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't give gifts to the opposition runs. That's what

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Speaker 1: you can't afford to do. You have to capitalize when

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Speaker 1: they make mistakes. And the last thing you can do

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Speaker 1: is short in the field for the Lions. And look

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Speaker 1: what happened in the Arizona game. You talk about those

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds runs. You know number of them were from

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Speaker 1: look at where the Cardinals started those drives, and they

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Speaker 1: Some of it was from midfield. Sometimes it was perhaps

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Speaker 1: team that is also trying to get back on the

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Speaker 1: winning track. The Lions traded away one of their starting

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Speaker 1: safeties the other day, Quandre Digs. They traded him to

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Speaker 1: the Seahawk. Carry On Johnson, they're starting running back, is

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Speaker 1: on injured reserves, so you know they're losing personnel, they're

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Speaker 1: on the right track as the Giants are. This is

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Speaker 1: a good test for both of these teams to see

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Speaker 1: whether or not they can recrup I'm gonna do a quick,

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Speaker 1: uh technical check. Are you hearing yourself in the microphone?

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Speaker 1: I am hearing myself low, I am hearing you loud

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Speaker 1: why you're still singles. Okay. The batchelife. Okay, that's that's

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Speaker 1: how that's and that's why Nicole has to beat him

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Speaker 1: We got covering all the basest alright, No, but really, um,

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Speaker 1: the future. We made the change after two games. It's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Um. If anybody thought that Daniel was

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Speaker 1: one thing, though, if if I'm looking at a bright

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Speaker 1: he's not cocky. There's a difference between cocky and confident.

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Speaker 1: He's not cocky like I can do this and I

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Speaker 1: and that's this aggressive, aggressive nature. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that he's learning that you can't make all the plays.

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Speaker 1: You can't fit it in just because you want to

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Speaker 1: fit it in, you know, and and it. But then again,

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Speaker 1: there were good things that happened. He did make some

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Speaker 1: They have to go ahead and try and they really

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Speaker 1: need to get this one straightened out because then they've

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Speaker 1: got Dallas coming in on Monday night. Yeah, well, you

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Speaker 1: got three games left before the bye, and right now

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Speaker 1: they're two and five, so you know, you want to

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Speaker 1: try to gain some momentum entering the bye, but there

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Speaker 1: are no layups in the National Football League. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are gonna point to, Okay, there's another winnable

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Speaker 1: game against the Lions, But you know, the Lions right

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Speaker 1: now are searching for an identity, and you do not

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Speaker 1: want to be the team RUSS that gives them an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to establish their identity. The Lions are bottom five

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Speaker 1: in sacks. They only have ten sacks. They have snacks Harrison.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's been very vocal that you know, he's

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Speaker 1: So you know, the Lions are looking to turn things around,

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Giants need to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: we have yet to see this season. We haven't seen

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Speaker 1: to Russ. But outside of that Redskins game, we have

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Speaker 1: not seen them take advantage of a team that's hurting,

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Speaker 1: that's something to me that I'll be watching for against

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. With respect to Daniel Jones, it's a

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Speaker 1: copycat league. What I think happened is the Vikings through

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to me, not to get completely off topic, Russ,

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Speaker 1: excellent point. Also, uh, and listen, we we know that

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones can run, but Kyle Kyler Murray is another

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Speaker 1: I'm sure coaches said listen, if you want to live

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Speaker 1: for another day, both physically and mentally, you can't do

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Speaker 1: Let's open up the phone lines this today with the

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Speaker 1: Travis in Queens. Hello, Travis, you're on with Russ and Lance.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Good? How are you doing? Travis? So? Um, Lynn,

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Speaker 1: you kind of went intomorrow point in the state. But

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Speaker 1: I disagree Travis, Travis, Travis, excuse me a second. Are

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Speaker 1: calling from a tunnel someplace. Me not. Well, we're hearing

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Speaker 1: uh with Lynn? And is comment about Danny Jones. I

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Speaker 1: and I think I think who has to do better

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Speaker 1: in summer? Like that? Was? That was a bad coaching,

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Speaker 1: uh situation that he dealt with I mean he didn't

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Speaker 1: Ingram he was saying it was blocking Chanl Jones. So

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Speaker 1: like as a as a head coach, you have to

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Speaker 1: tell your work reporter that these Thames and you have

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Speaker 1: to make better uh play calls for him where he

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Speaker 1: can game well. But Travis, Travis, hold on, Travis, hold

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Speaker 1: on one second. Let's let's listen. I think we would

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Speaker 1: all agree unanimously that everybody needs to do better, coaches, players, everybody. Uh, However,

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Speaker 1: you can't say none of it is on Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: The turnovers are too many, and I mean Eli phil Simms,

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Speaker 1: I ate tittled all Charlie Connolly, all of them in history.

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Speaker 1: You know you have to protect the football. But Ruck,

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Speaker 1: let me let me, let let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe if if then you Joan was was

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Speaker 1: into him about how do you know? Hold on? Do yeah, Travis,

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Speaker 1: First of all, you're talking about hypotheticals. I mean, come on, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not no, that's not I'm saying. That's the type

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Speaker 1: of coach. What I'm saying is you have to listen. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you have to coach whatever weakness. Travis. Travis, Travis, I

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Speaker 1: think you're being and you're you're always a good caller,

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Speaker 1: but I think you're being a little unfair here to

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Speaker 1: think that Sherman is not telling them and talking to

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Speaker 1: and the drive ended at their own four yard line.

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Speaker 1: They lost eight yards as opposed to even moving forward.

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Speaker 1: So let's take it to consideration. The facts. The facts

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Speaker 1: are the Giants never even tasted field goal range. They

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Speaker 1: taste field goal range, they did end into field goal range. Russ,

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Speaker 1: I think we got maybe something to debate about. You

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have maybe given them the gift of three points.

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's irrelevant because they didn't even get

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Speaker 1: into field goal range. That's the point that that is

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Speaker 1: the point, and the same thing like you know, and

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Speaker 1: you could have would have should have. Um if Rosas

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Speaker 1: doesn't hit a goal post, well there's another one. There's

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Speaker 1: three points right there. Yeah, who knows how the game

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Speaker 1: changes from there. You know, it's just too easy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I get it, everybody wants well this and that,

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Speaker 1: but all what what Mark was saying, and I understand that, Mark,

442
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: but all all what you were saying was in the end,

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Speaker 1: they still had a chance. You know. It was like

444
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Speaker 1: we were hearing about it yesterday. Oh how why why

445
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Speaker 1: didn't he tell him not to Darius, not to run

446
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Speaker 1: the ball out? Well, you know, so he ran the

447
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Speaker 1: ball out and and the coach had said no if

448
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: he was deep in the end zone, no, that's a no. No.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to make a play. It's late in the game.

450
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: He's trying to make a play. So they ended up

451
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Speaker 1: on the twelve of the thirteen instead of so after

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Speaker 1: a after a sack and a fumble, what would they

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Speaker 1: would have ended up? Of course, Yeah, the facts of

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Speaker 1: how the drive played out can't be dismissed. You can't

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Speaker 1: have the philosophy because this is more of a hypothetical

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Speaker 1: rush that in event the Giants started to drive at

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Speaker 1: and that Darius Landen took a knee so they got

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Speaker 1: a touchback. That all of a sudden, the offense is

459
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Speaker 1: going to be able to solve Chandler Jones and there's

460
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Speaker 1: gonna be completely different results. Okay, the Arizona Cardinals had

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Speaker 1: eight sacks. They didn't have eight sacks because they just

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Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to get eight sacks. They beat the

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Speaker 1: Giants in the trenches, and they did that consistently, specifically

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Speaker 1: in the latter part of the game. So whether they

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Speaker 1: started at the twenty five they started the twelve, to me,

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Speaker 1: once again, that's irrelevant. They weren't able to move the

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Speaker 1: football if they get into field goal range, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a completely different story. But that didn't come to

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Speaker 1: fruition for the Giants. Yeah, I mean, you know, to

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Speaker 1: talk about analytics, I mean that we had people complaining

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Speaker 1: about going with the analytics. So well, and here's the

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Speaker 1: other thing with respect analytics, Russ, do you really think

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Speaker 1: whether you like the play call, you like the execution, whatever,

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Speaker 1: it may be. I've never heard a coach say, you

475
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Speaker 1: know what, we went into fourth and fifteen. We didn't

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Speaker 1: feel good about our play call. We felt that we

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Speaker 1: were only gonna get ten yards out of this and

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Speaker 1: we were gonna be forced to play. They went into

479
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: that call thinking there's a good chance they're gonna pick

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Speaker 1: up the first down. It didn't work out, and that's

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Speaker 1: the beauty of this business. When it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 1: your abum and when it works out, your age. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's always the case. And Shermer actually even

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Speaker 1: said that after the game, and I think he was

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Speaker 1: spot on. The conversation completely changes. If the result changes,

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Speaker 1: then we're not having the conversation about the play college.

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Speaker 1: So that's why my focus, Russ is more on the

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Speaker 1: lack of execution to drop passes, the penalties, the issue

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Speaker 1: of holding onto the football by the quarterback, the lack

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Speaker 1: of past protection. I'd rather break that down and talk

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Speaker 1: about that more so than well. On fourth and fifteen,

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Speaker 1: if they would have called this, they would have been

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Speaker 1: guaranteed to get the first down. That's just a could

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Speaker 1: have would have should have lived to see another day

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Speaker 1: type of scenario. To zero one four or five one

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Speaker 1: say we go back to the phone lines again. Two

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Speaker 1: zero one one three is the number. Let's go to Watertown,

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Speaker 1: New York and check in what our old friend Dylan

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00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: haven't earned from Dylan in a while. Hello Dell, you're

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Speaker 1: on with Russ and Lance. Are you good? Afternoon guys?

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00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: I was going good? How good? I've been trying to

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Speaker 1: contribute on Twitter when I can, but say actually got

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Speaker 1: the aftertuty to call, So it's good to talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys again. UM. I really liked the Gan Buchanan signing. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think he brings versatility and speed to the defense,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping he can tackle well. Obviously tackling has

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Speaker 1: been a little bit of an issue this year. But

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Speaker 1: what I really liked about him is that they can

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Speaker 1: utilize him without pulling a safety down in the box

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Speaker 1: if they do use them. Um, I know that they've

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Speaker 1: been sometimes pulling to Peppers down and using that look.

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Speaker 1: But if they have Ducanon on there, you know they

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Speaker 1: can they can put Peppers back at the safety spot,

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Speaker 1: have him play more safety than playing in the box.

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Speaker 1: And uh, hopefully Bucannon will help covering tight ends too,

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Speaker 1: because I know that's been a weakness for not just

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Speaker 1: this year, but many years for the Giants. UM, trying

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Speaker 1: to fine linebackers that can cover tight ends. So I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping with his speed he's a more athletic linebacker basically

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Speaker 1: like a safety. UM, he can help bring some of

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Speaker 1: that uh play ability to their defense. Um. But it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to this Sunday playing against a lot

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Speaker 1: of former Giants and uh, I saw that Paul Perkins

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Speaker 1: was promoted today, so I'm hoping that he doesn't end

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Speaker 1: up being like Chase Edmonds and burn the Giants defense

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. But um, and then I'm pretty excited. I

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Speaker 1: think this is kind of one of those games you

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Speaker 1: go into, ah, you know, pretty hostile atmosphere in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: but maybe try to turn around then, you know, make

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Speaker 1: some plays and hopefully get a win. Well, you know what, Dylan,

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00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: when you're traveling to the other team's venue, you're always

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Speaker 1: in hostile territory. So that goes without saying. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: um as I said, I don't know if you heard

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Speaker 1: us at the top of the show. They got a

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Speaker 1: three game losing streak and they're coming off a lousy loss. Uh,

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Speaker 1: stop the bleeding by any means necessary. Just get a

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Speaker 1: w any which way you can. You gotta steal it,

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Speaker 1: pound somebody into submission, any which way, just get it done. Well.

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Speaker 1: They got to play complimentary football. They gotta protect the football.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two obvious things. As far as the

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Speaker 1: concern about the running back, I wouldn't really be too

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed with Paul Perkins because you know, they got Ty Johnson.

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Speaker 1: They got J. D. McKissick well ahead of him on

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Speaker 1: the depth chart, So Perkins to me, was called up

552
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Speaker 1: is an insurance policy. You know, whoever is back there

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Speaker 1: for the Lions, they got to be concerned about, whether

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Speaker 1: it's Chase Edmonds or David Johnson and the Cardinals. Same

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Speaker 1: thing goes with the Detroit Lions. I agree with your point,

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Speaker 1: Dylan about day Own Buchanan. I do think he's a

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Speaker 1: versatile player. I think that you can move him around.

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Speaker 1: I think they're coming in initially the Giants are gonna

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Speaker 1: want him to probably play linebacker and help the interior

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Speaker 1: of that linebacking group more so than maybe float him

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Speaker 1: out to safety, where right now you have Jabril Peppers,

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Speaker 1: you have Antoine Bethet, you also have Michael Thomas. I

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Speaker 1: think they have a few options. I think what they

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Speaker 1: want to do is they want to show up the

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Speaker 1: ability in the middle of the field, and that's where

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Speaker 1: perhaps Buchanan can help. It's also going to be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see, you know, how he fits into this Giants

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Speaker 1: defense compared to what we saw on Tampa Bay, because

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Speaker 1: you know, with Tampa Bay he was reuniting with Todd Bowles,

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Speaker 1: who he worked with also in Arizona. For some reason,

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Speaker 1: they only played him ten defensive snaps. He was mainly

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Speaker 1: a special teamer. I'm assuming the Giants have much bigger

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Speaker 1: plans for him on defense than the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did,

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Speaker 1: especially because you know, the Bucks at least drafted Devin

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Speaker 1: White after the facts, so you can argue, all right,

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Speaker 1: they wanted to groom the younger guy. The Giants don't

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Speaker 1: have Devin White, so I think the dynamics with Giants

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Speaker 1: defense much different than Tampa Bay. I wouldn't read too

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Speaker 1: much into the fact, well, why did't Tampa Bay play

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Speaker 1: him as much? I think they wanted to give the

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Speaker 1: younger guy a few more options. But there's a call

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Speaker 1: for him to come in and make a significant impact.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be more so at linebacker

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Speaker 1: than safety in the initial stages of his playing time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I also like to you know, obviously he's familiar

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Speaker 1: with Betcher, and he's playing with some of his teammates,

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Speaker 1: so maybe absolutely with the communication aspects, I know there's

588
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: been sometimes miscommunication on the defense. So hopefully with his precedence,

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Speaker 1: he's able to help the young guys and then be

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Speaker 1: able to develop with his former teammates. Again, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: Dylan in fairness to the defense, Um, look, uh, it

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Speaker 1: was as bad as the performance was, and to me

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Speaker 1: it was really you know, it was a very disappointing performance,

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Speaker 1: you know from the Giants. I think the Giants to

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Speaker 1: a man would tell you that players coaches everybody up

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Speaker 1: and down the line. But having said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: people were talking about, well, the poor player defense, and

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Speaker 1: certainly that you talked about the Edmonds runs had its problems.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, in fairness to the defense,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you turning the ball over like that,

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Speaker 1: the offense is not helping. Yeah, you're not doing any

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Speaker 1: favorites for the defense. There's no doubt about that, you know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So it's you know when coach, when a coach says,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not just one thing. You know. Uh Like

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Speaker 1: like Lands brought out, they would drop passes, you know,

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Speaker 1: I Evan Angram dropped the pass. Um se Kwan dropped

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Speaker 1: the pass, you know, right over the middle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and you just looked up banged his head, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean those are all the little things. You know.

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Speaker 1: You you lost the game by six points. Uh you

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Speaker 1: played lousy and you still you know, had a chance

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Speaker 1: to win in the final two minutes of the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, so plays you know, it's it's not just

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Speaker 1: one thing. And Dylan, thanks for the phone call. In

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Speaker 1: terms of the other troubling trend to us here, which

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Speaker 1: is what you know just alluded to the last two games,

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Speaker 1: they've also dug themselves in early holes, and you can't

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Speaker 1: expect to just continue win games playing catch up. Remember

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Speaker 1: they were down fourteen nothing to the Patriots in the

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Speaker 1: blank of an eye, and then you're down seventeen nothing

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Speaker 1: to the Cardinals. So yes, credit to the Giants. They

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Speaker 1: fought their way back in each of the last two games.

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Speaker 1: But think about how much energy you exhaust making up

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Speaker 1: for a two touchdown deficit. Then you get even or

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Speaker 1: you pull within three, and you gotta pull even deeper

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Speaker 1: to move ahead and build some type of lead. It's

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Speaker 1: very difficult to do that. And it's not being you know,

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Speaker 1: detrimental or you know, derogatory towards the Giants, but they're

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Speaker 1: not good enough to be able to get out of

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Speaker 1: those holes, especially when you turn the ball over, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. Yeah, I mean you're not

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Speaker 1: helping yourself, you know, like if you see his team

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Speaker 1: like the Patriots, if the Patriots going to fourteen nothing hole,

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Speaker 1: well then you're not necessarily oh at the end of

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Speaker 1: the world's coming. But when you get you know that,

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Speaker 1: that to me, what was discouraging about this game. I

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Speaker 1: thought the Giants made even though they lost by one

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Speaker 1: and to the Patriots and was short man, you know,

639
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: personnel wise, I thought they played their butts off that game,

640
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: and and you know, there was progress, especially the defense.

641
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: It was in particular the defense. That's why that's why

642
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the last game I felt was you know, very very frustrating.

643
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: It just wasn't um you know, it was a collapse. Well,

644
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: you got the Marcus Golden returned fumble for a score.

645
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: You did not have Tom Brady light you up. I

646
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: think he felt some pressure and you had opportunities because

647
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: you took the ball to away from him, especially the

648
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: markets Golden play, Lorenzo Carter force the fumble, you get

649
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: the interception. It was just a matter of once again,

650
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: this goes back to our theme of complimentary football. The

651
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: offense needs to help out the defense RUSS, and the

652
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: defense needs to help out the offense. And we haven't

653
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: seen that on a consistent basis during this three game

654
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: losing streak. So when you have a takeaway, you gotta

655
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: put points on the board. See that's what the opponents

656
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: are doing, you know, that's the other part of this.

657
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: The Cardinals RUSS. They scored seventeen points off of three

658
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: Giants takeaways. Okay, they cash those in two touchdowns in

659
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: the field. New England. New England had four takeaways, they

660
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: put up fourteen points. You could have argued they could

661
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: have even done more damage. But what are the Giants, then,

662
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: on the flip side doing when they take away the football?

663
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: They're not always cashing it in, And that to me

664
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: is a big difference between the Giants and their most

665
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: recent opponents. Well, but again, you know, in fair and

666
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: fairness also, um, well, you had more firepower back in

667
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: your lineup this week, you know when you say about

668
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: what are they doing when they're not cashing in? But

669
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: they haven't had the top guns in the lineup to

670
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: cash you. No, there's no doubt about that. But in fairness,

671
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Russ and I'm sure Pat Shermer would point to this,

672
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: the Cardinals did not have David Johnson and Christian Kirk. Okay,

673
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: they did not have their starting running back in their

674
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: top wide receiver. New England loses Josh Gordon during the

675
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: Patriots game. Okay, they were already down a few guys,

676
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: specifically on defense, Patrick Chung, one of their top safeties.

677
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: So the bottom line is, I could go back to

678
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: every Giants game and I could point to the opposition

679
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: not having one or two guys, maybe not to the

680
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: extent for us to your point that the Giants were

681
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: decimated by injuries, but they also going up against teams

682
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: that were missing pieces, and those teams found ways to

683
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: win games. So I think if you ask even the

684
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: Giants coachings they have the last thing they're gonna point

685
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: to is the reason why they're two and five right

686
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: now is simply because Sterling Shepherd hasn't played the last

687
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: few games. Evan Ingram missed the game at Say Kwan,

688
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: Barkley missed a few games to zero, one five, one,

689
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: three is the number. Let's go down to South Florida

690
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: and check in with Robert. Hello Robert, you're on with

691
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Russ and Lance. Thanks a lot of you guys are

692
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: doing a great job on the trying circumstances. Trying circumstances. Yes, indeed,

693
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: what do you go back to the days of when

694
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: old mo mean momentum changes good Man Dick Modulevski. So,

695
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: but you know, I think Lance, you hit the nail

696
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: on the head about it's the performance of the players

697
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: on the field that's the issue. But my question is

698
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 1: is why are we It's been consistently treated by for

699
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: bad football for the last a couple of years. You

700
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: know why is it that Maybe these are rhetorical questions,

701
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: but why is it that in the first half of

702
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: the every game except for the Patriots game, our defense

703
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: can't stop anybody and they look confused out there. And

704
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: the only reason why they gave up thirty yards forty

705
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: yard drives because they didn't start on the other team

706
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: didn't start on the out their own two yard line.

707
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: Because when they did, we gave up ninety eight yard drives.

708
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: And also, you know, why is it that our offensive line,

709
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: even though you know we've been revamped and it's technically

710
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: theoretically much better than it was before, you know, guys

711
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: are getting free shots on our quarterback and you know,

712
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: we're still losing yardage every now and then on first

713
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: down run by one of the best running backs in

714
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: the league, and uh well, one of the best Robert

715
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: In fairness, you know what, what what would you saying?

716
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know makes sense, but in fairness, one

717
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: of the best running backs in the league hasn't been playing,

718
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, m until this past week. So you know,

719
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: in terms of that, listen, you know you're talking about

720
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: lack of execution in a lot of areas. Okay, you're there, Okay,

721
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: you don't. You know, listen, you sound like you're an

722
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: old football fan when you talk about lack of execution.

723
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: I always think of John McKay, the very first head

724
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. When he was he

725
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: was asked after a game, what do you think about

726
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: the execution of your offense, to which he McKay replied,

727
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm all for it, you know, I mean, you know,

728
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek. But listen, for some reason, it sounds

729
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: like a bad connection, rob But thank you for the call.

730
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, they have to get better executing all

731
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: the way around. Well, I think it's a great question

732
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: that Robert posed because it is a trend of getting

733
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: off too slow starts, as I just noted, and he

734
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: was pointing to opening drive Russ thirteen play, seventy five yards,

735
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: They nearly milk set then minutes off the clock and

736
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown and what the length of the field. Well,

737
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Sherman was asked, and that's I'm glad you brought that up.

738
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Sherman was asked, after the game, you know, can you

739
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: explain it looked like they there was a lack of

740
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: energy of what you know, the slow start, and uh

741
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Sherman brought out the point, Well, they had like an

742
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: eight minute drive. If your defense has if the off

743
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: their offense has an eight minute drive, and then your

744
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: offense comes on and goes three and out all of

745
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: a sudden, That's why it seems like a slow not

746
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: into the game attitude. Well and Arizona wanted to wear

747
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: down the Giant shelfense. Mission accomplished. But to answer the

748
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Cohler's question, I think the rationale behind well, you know,

749
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: why are you not seeing the defense get off the field.

750
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: To me, it's not that these guys are not energized

751
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: and they don't have the desire to play. I think

752
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: it goes back to you have a mistackle on third down,

753
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: a drive continues Russ. Okay, so now all of a sudden,

754
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: you're keeping the opposing offense on the field when maybe

755
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: you could have gone off the field if it's a

756
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: third and one or a third and two, when you

757
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: have an opportunity once again to make a stop at

758
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: the trenches, you give them an opportunity to convert Kyler Murray.

759
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: If you go back to that opening drive, they faced

760
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: three third downs. Okay, it's important to note this they

761
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: faced a third and five, they faced the third and six,

762
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: and they faced the third and seven. Okay, not overwhelming

763
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: third downs, I would say, but let's also look at

764
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: the amount of yardage that was given up. On the

765
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: third and five, Kyler Murray hooks up with Larry Fitzgerald

766
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: for twelve yards. They needed five russ they picked up twelve. Okay.

767
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: Then on the third and six they needed six, they

768
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: got twelve. Again Murray hooked up with Charles clay Is

769
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: tight end. And then on the third and seven, okay,

770
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: they were stopped, meaning they only got four yards, but

771
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: they decided to go for it. So you have another

772
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to four stem to turn it over on downs,

773
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: and on a fourth and three you give up four yards.

774
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 1: So the opportunities were there for the Giants to make

775
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: the stops. They did not make those stops, whether it

776
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: be miss tackles, players out a position, missqes, and so forth.

777
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: And that's the big reason why I think you're seeing

778
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: some of the opponents start off very strong, putting together

779
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: lengthy drives. The inability for this team to get off

780
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: the field on third down two zero, one, four or

781
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: five one three is the number. Let's go down to

782
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Check in with who? Who's that mystery? It

783
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: sounds it looks like mystery. Mry alright, mystery. Yes, what

784
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: do you have for us? Are you doing again? Good

785
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: to speak with you. I'm actually in Brooklyn. I'm from

786
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: South Carolina, but well you gotta represent Brooklyn. That hold

787
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: on before we get to the Wait a minute, hold on,

788
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: you're talking to two fellow Brooklyn Nights. Where where in

789
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: Brooklyn are you? Is that supposed to be a mystery too? Actually,

790
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually writing Betty when born. I was born to

791
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: South Carolina, but raising bed start half Jets and half giants,

792
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: so I'm half giants. Okay, so wait a minute, mystery,

793
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: keeping it mystery? Where you go to school in the

794
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: Erasmus Hall. He's a public school guy, that's right, Yes

795
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm one. I'm one of them, one of the Dutchmen,

796
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: flying Dutchmen. I loved football the death, but I was

797
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: on the gymnastics teams. We'll see. Now you're really giving

798
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: away the mystery here. You gotta be careful with Hey,

799
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: guys that listen to the show yesterday, and I agree

800
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of what you guys say. People want

801
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: to point a finger on you know, on defense, on offense,

802
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: on coaches, on execution. Although I did hear one woman

803
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: called yesterday mentioned fundamentals, I agree with that. The sad

804
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: thing to me is that, and I got what won't

805
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: hear what you guys have to say. These guys are

806
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: all professionals being paid, and I don't mean just the players,

807
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: all professionals being paid. Consequently, the fundamentals you should have

808
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: had locked in a long long time ago at the

809
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: elementary level, I would say, now you are at the

810
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: professional level being played. You watched all of these teams

811
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: that the Giants have played this season. They know who

812
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: they're playing. The Giants know who they're playing. The coaches

813
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: have a week or whatever the time period to prepare

814
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: as well of the players. When those days come up.

815
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: With the game day comes up, it's up to you

816
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: to execute at the very bare minimum your fundamentals. No,

817
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: not the minimum, because you're being paid at the execution

818
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: of excellence to at leaks, you shouldn't even be questioned

819
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: that you've done the fundamental basics. If you don't, it'll

820
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: it will glare. You'll play the Patriots handsomely even though

821
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: you lost. And then you play a team you're supposed

822
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: to or should win and you look like you couldn't

823
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 1: to catch a cold or the phone booth. Well, your mystery.

824
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't argue with anything you just said. But what

825
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: is the one fundamental rule? As long as you say

826
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: and you're a hundred percent right now you're not, I'd

827
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: say you're right. But since we're talking about fundamentals, what

828
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: is the number one, the number one mystery fundamental rule

829
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: in football? Him football? Protecting the football? Oh well, okay, okay, no, no, nobody,

830
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: and you don't have the ball, you don't win the game,

831
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: and you know what the ball. But here's the thing

832
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: wasn't to knock on Jones coming out of college is

833
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: an ability to protect the football. Everybody said that was

834
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: the only knock they had on him was that he

835
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: didn't protect the football. Well, so now he's in the proceeding.

836
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I thought, that's I'm sure they did. I don't even

837
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: doubt that. I know these coaches are brilliant what they do.

838
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: They probably were riddling him as much as they could

839
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: about securing the football. When they're gonna mystery, they're gonna

840
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: keep doing it in fairness, In fairness to Daniel Jones

841
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: in Duke at Duke, he didn't have a whole lot

842
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: of protection and a whole lot of help. And I've

843
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: heard this from several people, uh people who played against him.

844
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: Uh Man, that boy is tough because he took some vicious,

845
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: vicious hits in college. You know, when you say your fundamentals,

846
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, and it was a problem in college when

847
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: you're getting smacked around. Listen, I am not making excuses.

848
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: You've heard us say quite lengthy here mystery that he's

849
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: got to protect the football. But but you know, part

850
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: of protecting the football is making sure that he's protected

851
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: as well. It's it's it's it's like you know, the

852
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: hip bones connected to the thigh. No, that's it's all.

853
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: It's all goes hand in hand. Well, listen, My last

854
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: thing and i'll take it up to you guys, is

855
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: this since we're doing the Nancy said about Okay, yeah,

856
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: we played these people who had them means a few

857
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: main people out. So that's no excuse. You're on the field.

858
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: You're supposed to play. Catch the ball, throw the ball,

859
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: running ball. What do you guys think? And I just

860
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: personally feel I think that Jones is a really smart quarterback.

861
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: I think he's able. I think our offensive aggression is lacking,

862
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: and I don't and I mean primarily I'm leaning towards

863
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: a paid clip play comment and with that, I'm gonna

864
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: take it up to a thanks well well okay, no,

865
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: I was gonna say and appreciate the phone call. I mean,

866
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: thank you, Mr. A good call. If anything, I would argue,

867
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: I think it's sometimes you can maybe say he's being

868
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: too aggressive ross because Daniel Jones sometimes it is thrown

869
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: into such tight windows and the percentages show that and

870
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: back that up if you look at the analytical studies

871
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: the windows he's throwing two compared to some other quarterbacks.

872
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is extremely aggressive. I think he's

873
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: extremely aggressive. I think Mystery might have been alluding to

874
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe some of a different play calling up. But in fairness,

875
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: uh you know, in particular on offense, well, you know,

876
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: when you don't have Evan Ingram in the lineup, when

877
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: you don't have uh se Kwan Barkley in the lineup,

878
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: when you didn't have Golden take in for the first

879
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: four games, when you don't have Shepard, that's gonna you know,

880
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: you can't go into a fight, a heavyweight fight with

881
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: one hand tied behind your back, you know, you know,

882
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: so in fairness, when you're lacking all your tiller right,

883
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to go into battle, you know with uh

884
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, I always say a water pistol. The throw

885
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: to red Ellison was an aggressive throw. You know, he

886
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: throws that a fraction of a second. Lad who knows,

887
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: maybe the safety comes over picks that off. Darius Slaying

888
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: throw in the Tampa Bay game when he's going to

889
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: be sacked as he rolls out to his left. So

890
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: I see some aggressiveness. I don't think that's the reason

891
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: why the offense is struggled. And also it's hard to

892
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: be aggressive with the play calling when you're seeing a

893
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of pressure in your face, you know, max protecting,

894
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: making sure that the quarterback has a clean pocket should

895
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: be the utmost priority before you start digging deep into

896
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: your bag of tricks and calling on things that maybe

897
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: you're not used to executing on consistent level. I think

898
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: the biggest priority right now is to make sure that

899
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: the eighth sack performance does not duplicate itself, you know,

900
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't afford that this week, but but

901
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, he also one thing that Daniel Jones does

902
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: and and he he can do it, and he does

903
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: it and does it well. He can put that ball

904
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: into a very very tight area. And that's something that

905
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: receivers should be very glad about. At the same time,

906
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: and I've mentioned this the last couple of weeks, there

907
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: were a few times this year, you know, more than

908
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: on one occasion where I've seen both the receiver and

909
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: the defensive back get the hands on the ball. Well,

910
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: you gotta grab that ball. If you're a receiver, you

911
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: gotta grab that ball. If we're both here, I gotta

912
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: grab the ball. And I don't see that sometimes. So again,

913
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones doesn't get a pass, but neither did the

914
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: receivers on certain place. Let's uh stick in Brooklyn. We

915
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: go from mystery to Mike. Hello, Mike, you're on with

916
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: Russ and Lance? Good? How you doing, Mike? All right? Um,

917
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: but just a couple of quick points. Um, the problem

918
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: with Slayton taking the ball out from the one year online. Now,

919
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: I wonder if we have so many uh problems with

920
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: that if the guy turning the ball for a touchdown exactly, yeah,

921
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: that could happen, you know, And and you know what speed.

922
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: I know he doesn't have a lot of experience return

923
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: and kick us, but you got to give it a shot.

924
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: Mike couldn't agree with you know, it's what we said.

925
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Maybe I guess maybe he didn't hear us earlier. If

926
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: the play works, then then everybody's applauding the aggressiveness. Okay,

927
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: when yeah know, when the play works, everybody is, oh,

928
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: they're doing a jig. Everybody's happy as a pick and slop,

929
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: but they're not. When it doesn't work, it goes the

930
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: opposite away well, and after the game, Pat Sheremer even said,

931
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: I trust my playmakers. I'm gonna give them opportunities to

932
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 1: make play. So his rationale was, yeah, if he returns

933
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: it for a touchdown, we're not talking about it. And

934
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: that was why Pat Schremer didn't have an issue with

935
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Darius Layde and choosing to take it out of the

936
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: end zone, because there is that slight chance that you're right, Mike,

937
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: he does return it, and then you're gonna wish that

938
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: he had that mindset every single time a kickoff comes

939
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: his way. Yeah, deep, I could see if it was

940
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: that's that's Mike. That's exactly what Pat Sherman said, if

941
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: if he would have been that far, that far deep

942
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: into the end zone, he would have had something to

943
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: say about it. But with the yard deep in the

944
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: end zone, let's go try and make a play. That's all.

945
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: Uh the second point and um and uh the fourth

946
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen play. You talk about the fourth and fifteen play?

947
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: Is that what you're referring to? I don't, I don't, alright, Mikey,

948
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: it seems like you're breaking in and out unfortunately breaking up.

949
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Sorry, but the last your last

950
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: question was breaking up on US two zero one five

951
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: one three. Let's go down to Virginia and check in

952
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: with Jesse, Jess. You're on with Russ and Lance. Hi, guys,

953
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: here are y'all? How are you doing? I actually wanted

954
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: to talk about the sports and fifteen play as well. UM.

955
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: I actually didn't think that was a horrible idea. Backed

956
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: up that far said a little time left on the clock.

957
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was a good idea. Hold

958
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: him to three. We're still within one possession and they

959
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: can't burn time off the clock or have much time

960
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: off the clock because they could have had repunded. They

961
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: had forty yards to go Jess again, you're you're not

962
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: going to get an argument from me. The reason, the

963
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: reason you don't get an argument. Hello, you're there, Yes,

964
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: what are you building a house or something that It's

965
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: not like he jumped out of the car and then

966
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: he built the house. That's what he did. I think

967
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: the winds getting to the sun and I'm out. I'm

968
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: actually outside working. Okay, but but but Jess, uh, yeah,

969
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: I agree with you. You know, with all that having

970
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: been said, and again we said this early. Uh, with

971
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: all that we're talking about, from from one yard into

972
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: the end zone to to fourth and fifteen, they still

973
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: had a chance with two minutes to go to drive

974
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: and win the game. But instead of moving forward, as

975
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: has has Lands brought up, they started on the thirteen

976
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: and wound up on the floor going in the wrong direction.

977
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: It's you're right. I I couldn't. There is no disputing here.

978
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: But you're talking to the two guys here who agree

979
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: with that logic. So right, like I said, um, that

980
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: seemed like the best option at that point. My wife

981
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: actually happened while I was watching the game. Why that happened?

982
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: That was the explanation I gave her, probably the most

983
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: likely um, and then one more thing, um, just kind

984
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: of get you guys takes on. I was reading earlier.

985
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: I can't remember excited side I was on, but um,

986
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: it was rumored of Nate Solder going to being turned

987
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: into Cleveland. I was just I'll take the answer off

988
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: the air. I just wanted to get you Yes, you

989
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: can stay on the here. I mean I was. I

990
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: was reading today. People are throwing stuff out now, possibilities

991
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: of guys being traded because of the money that they make.

992
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: You know what trade deadline coming up. I think it's

993
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: just stuff being thrown out there. Yeah, I mean the

994
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: deadline is next Tuesday. There's been a lot of trades

995
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: over the last few weeks, and I mean, certainly anything

996
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: is always possible. But you gotta look at it this way.

997
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: The Giants, if they were to part way he has

998
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: been mad soldier, they'd have to have a lot of

999
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: confidence that they have somebody on the roster I'd be

1000
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: able to fill in it left tackle, and I don't

1001
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: believe that's the case. So I think that's the way.

1002
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: You also need to look at some of these rumors.

1003
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: And it's always nice to have something to talk about

1004
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: at this time. Of the year. Whether they have some

1005
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: stance behind it is a whole other thing. And I

1006
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: appreciate the phone call, Jesse, Thanks for waiting. Thanks Jess,

1007
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: I was reading that. You know, let's now it's like

1008
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: in baseball, it's basketball. So well, no, as we approached

1009
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: trading deadlines, let's look at we got a team that

1010
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: has a losing record, so let's look at the guys

1011
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: making the most money in order. And obviously, uh, the

1012
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: guy making the most money ain't going any place. Well. Also,

1013
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: when the Giant signed Nates Solder, the mindset was and

1014
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: we're just going to use him for two years and

1015
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: then move on. So if Nates Soldier had a year

1016
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: left on his contract, he had an expiring deal, I

1017
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: think maybe there's a little bit more to talk about.

1018
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: He doesn't have an expiring deal, so, uh, you gotta

1019
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: look at it. How does that help the Giants in

1020
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: the long run? And who replaces him? You know, you

1021
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: always have that Plan B when you execute Plan A Russ.

1022
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: You can't just get rid of a player and say, hey,

1023
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, we'll bring a guy off the street. He'll

1024
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: be okay playing left tackle, don't worry about And you're

1025
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: also bringing in. Uh, you just brought in a new,

1026
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: young rookie quarterback. You gotta protect the cord. But I mean,

1027
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: if you want him, we're talking about being aggressive and

1028
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: and you know his growth. As Land said, you gotta

1029
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: make sure he's protected. Otherwise the whole game plan becomes

1030
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: the cockamamie idea. Let's go to New Mexico. We got

1031
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: a time for a call or two before we wrap

1032
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: things up here with Let's go to New Mexico and

1033
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: check in with Mike. Mike, you're on with Russ and Lance.

1034
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: He's going, guys, first time caller, long time listeners, A

1035
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 1: little nervous, You don't mind nervous? All right? Well, I

1036
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: quick questions about the defense. Um, I don't know what

1037
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: our percentages is of blitzing, but it seems like we're

1038
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: waiting back a lot and not really trying to make

1039
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: something happen. I don't know what the percentages was his

1040
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: last team of our glitz packages. But I'm gonna if

1041
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: you could put a little bit more pressure to cause

1042
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: our own turnovers to kind of, you know, get something

1043
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: going for our defense. That's my first question. My second

1044
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: one is, man, did they have something out for Mr?

1045
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Hernandez because for where I'm from here in New Mexico,

1046
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: he played at the university right down the road from us,

1047
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: and we're big fans of him. But it seems like

1048
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: the referring is calling for some tech holding. I wondered, like,

1049
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: did they have it out for him over? Well, you're right,

1050
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: there have been a number of holding calls against it,

1051
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: but I don't think anybody has a thing against Will Hernandez.

1052
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: There was one actually really good call against him where

1053
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: he was holding the eye on the shoulder pads. It

1054
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: was a legitimate hole. In fact, I was angry about

1055
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: the call until they showed it. He said, that's a hole, Mike.

1056
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: So uh, I'm a big fan of Will. I think

1057
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Will Hernana has got a tremendous future in this league.

1058
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: He's made progress. Just yeah, listen, you can say that

1059
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: at about a lot of people. You know, people can

1060
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: say that did they have it in for Nate Soldier

1061
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: as well? That's true. Now also now I don't I

1062
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: kind of understand it, but I don't, you know, I

1063
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: know Shermer calls our calls and everything and our ocs.

1064
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: Mr Schula, so like who calls? I know he calls

1065
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: the place, But I mean, what does the what is

1066
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: our OC does? Like? Does he have some kind of

1067
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: input of what we called during the game, you know,

1068
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: because that's that's that draw? Was that Hal Schrmer or

1069
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: did he had an input on that as well too?

1070
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: I would think, And thanks for the call, Mike, because

1071
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: we got to wrap things up here. Well, Mike Shula,

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00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: first of all, is also in charge of coaching up

1073
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Okay, he's not just the offensive coordinator. He

1074
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: also is consulting with Daniel Jones in the offense when

1075
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: the defense is out of the field, because remember Sherman

1076
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: is the head coach, has to also be paying attention

1077
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: to what's going on with the defense because he's in

1078
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: charge of the whole team. I think Schula is also

1079
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: a voice that Pat Shermer leans on. They constantly are

1080
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: discussing what's been working throughout the game, what needs to

1081
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: be tweaked. He's a soundboard essentially, is one way to

1082
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: view it. But to just dismiss the fact that, well

1083
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: Schula doesn't called plays, so therefore he doesn't hold an

1084
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: important role, I think it is extremely misleading. If you remember, Okay,

1085
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: you know Ben McAdoo initially was calling plays and you

1086
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: had Mike Sullivan here, and Mike Sullivan was sort of

1087
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: the same type of role as Mike Schuler, Russ. He

1088
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: wasn't just coming to work every day, putting his hands

1089
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: in his pocket and looking pretty okay. There's value and

1090
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: having somebody when you're a head coach who's also a

1091
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: play caller, you need somebody else to help communicate and

1092
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: talk with the offense. Well, you're paying attention to the

1093
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: rest of the game, okay, because it's kind of like

1094
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: the bench coach and baseball exactly. The game doesn't stop,

1095
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: so you can now make adjustments just for one facet

1096
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: of your team and real quickly. Russ. As far as

1097
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: the blitz question is concerned, they're not blitzing a lot

1098
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: based on the percentage, But I think part of the

1099
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: rationale is, you know, James Betcher inherited a very young secondary.

1100
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: Do you really want to go all out and blitz

1101
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: with these guys and then leave nobody on the back end?

1102
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: I think as there's more maturity shown by the secondary

1103
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: and a better feel, and they've also been utilizing a

1104
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: lot of different personnel because of the injuries at linebacker,

1105
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: maybe he feels more comfortable being a little bit more aggressive.

1106
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: But right now they're going with the four man fronts,

1107
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: so the five man guys that are going after the quarterback,

1108
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: and you know what. To the Giants credit, the pass

1109
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: rush hasn't necessarily been an issue because I think the

1110
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: sack numbers are much more impressive than they were at

1111
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: this time last year, much much more impressive. So but

1112
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: right now that is a rap here on today, I

1113
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 1: want to thank the very lovely Nicole Barrows with taking

1114
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Speaker 1: good care of us at the control my buddy here,

1115
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Speaker 1: Lance Meadow, I am Salisburg. And of course, last, but

1116
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Speaker 1: certainly not least, thank you people out there, because without

1117
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Speaker 1: you people out there, we have nobody here to be

1118
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Speaker 1: talking to. So until next time, have yourselves a great week.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you next Tuesday. Have going