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Speaker 1: Welcome into a Week eight Giants hangout, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by crester On. My name is Madeline Burke, joined as

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Speaker 1: always by Russ Salzburg, Brandon London, and Jonathan Cassias, and guys,

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Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. We got to talk about

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Speaker 1: Week seven. It was a heartbreaker in Denver. The Mile

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Speaker 1: High City Giants had a big lead but ended up

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Speaker 1: losing it on a game winning Will Lett's walk off

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Speaker 1: field goal. So much more went into that story though

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Speaker 1: Cassias as a defensive player in the room. Here, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to start with you what happened in that fourth quarter?

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Speaker 2: A lot, a lot happened, and you guys got on

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Speaker 2: me about those fifty two forty nine scores with the

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Speaker 2: Saints and the Giants. This is probably more embarrassing, you know,

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Speaker 2: like you shut out a team, you know, a top

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Speaker 2: team in the NFL. Of course they're you know, reveled

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Speaker 2: about their defense, but they've won games because how their

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Speaker 2: offense can score and win games at the end, right,

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Speaker 2: it was a complete, I think meltdown on all three phases.

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Speaker 2: And we recompliment the Giants about how they played complimentary football,

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Speaker 2: but I think it was the opposite they played complimentary

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Speaker 2: football at the end to lose. Right, It was a

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Speaker 2: combination of I think, you know, not executing certain things

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Speaker 2: on offense. Yes, they scored two touchdowns in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 2: but I think a couple times where it was towards

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Speaker 2: the end, the last couple possessions where they probably chose

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Speaker 2: to pass over a run or didn't execute the play

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Speaker 2: that they could have and should have, and Denver had

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Speaker 2: that extra time out, you know, and then the momentum

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Speaker 2: the defense couldn't stop the momentum. The same type of

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Speaker 2: defensive softness I could say that we saw against Dallas

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Speaker 2: late in that game. We saw again, we saw again,

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Speaker 2: and then of course got to make you kicks, bro,

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Speaker 2: you know, like you got to make you kicks. It's

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Speaker 2: extra points. These are not fifty five, six, sixty our

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Speaker 2: field goals. These are extra points. These are chip ins.

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Speaker 2: So it was a combination of not just one, not

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Speaker 2: just the defense given up thirty three points, the combination

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Speaker 2: of all three facets which won the game against the

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Speaker 2: Eagles couple weeks ago. They lost the game as a

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Speaker 2: collective unit in that fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, those two miss Pat's really

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Speaker 1: come down to it and you know, Russ, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about that before we got on the air. It's

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Speaker 1: of course not only on that, but it was a factor.

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Speaker 3: Well without question. You know, first of all, let me

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Speaker 3: just say this. I'm sure you, me, all of us

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Speaker 3: here talking on the hangout, and everybody at home was

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Speaker 3: feeling the same way if you were a Giants fan

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Speaker 3: for three quarters. We're saying to ourselves, this is what

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Speaker 3: we wanted. This was absolute gold. We are here, we

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Speaker 3: have arrived, we have turned the corner. The future looks right.

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Speaker 3: And then, to use the old cliche, you got to

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Speaker 3: remember to play sixty minutes of football, not fifty nine minutes,

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Speaker 3: not fifty nine point fifty nine seconds. You have to

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Speaker 3: play fifty play sixty minutes of football. And I don't care.

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Speaker 3: You're up nineteen nothing, twenty six eight with X amount

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Speaker 3: of minutes ago. You got to win the game. Now,

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Speaker 3: you brought up a good point, Madeline talking about the

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Speaker 3: extra points. That clearly was a factor. But some of

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Speaker 3: the people in that game, so after he misses his

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Speaker 3: first extra point and it's thirteen to nothing, they score again,

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Speaker 3: and then people are talking, I don't understand why is

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Speaker 3: Brian Dable going for two. It's too early to try

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Speaker 3: and make that point. Those points back. Let me tell

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Speaker 3: you something, did anybody stop to think maybe something else

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Speaker 3: was on Brian Dabeles mind. He didn't say it, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think he will say it. But if we

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Speaker 3: all remember the week before when they beat up the Eagles,

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Speaker 3: there was a missed extra point in that game. So

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Speaker 3: there's one in that game, his first one in this game.

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Speaker 3: And then Dabe's saying to himself, you know what, we

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Speaker 3: got this problem here. Maybe I just got a better

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Speaker 3: chance with the two point because I don't want him

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Speaker 3: to miss again. So he didn't miss that time he missed.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the game, it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: That's as jac said, it's got to be correc You know,

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Speaker 3: this is the NFL. It's not the little Sisters of

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Speaker 3: the poor. It's not high school, it's not college. You

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Speaker 3: got to make those kicks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And to his credit though, Jude after the game

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Speaker 1: acknowledgizes that I'm a professional kicker. I got to make

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Speaker 1: the kicks, Brandon. When you look at the way the

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Speaker 1: offense played though to start this game, I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to hang your hat on. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Giants fan. Yeah, it's a heartbreaking loss. But putting up

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Speaker 1: thirty two points against that Denver defense.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, and after you know, kind of taking shots

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Speaker 4: through Twitter and taking shots through the media, going back.

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Speaker 5: And forth with that.

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Speaker 4: So the fact that they were able to go out

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Speaker 4: there and still hang thirty two on this team, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's enough to kind of hold your head high for

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Speaker 4: that part of the football game. And you saw Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Cooper give Jackson Dart his flowers in his respect after

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 5: That's a great job. But I'm you know, I'm with

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Speaker 5: I'm with Russ.

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Speaker 4: And these guys on you know, for the it's kind

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Speaker 4: of I'm looking at it from offensive and point to

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Speaker 4: where it's like, we gotta close this thing out. You know,

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Speaker 4: when you're in that meeting room with Plexico Burris, a

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Speaker 4: Moni Tumor and those guys, you got an opportunity to. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: people are gonna say they should have ran the football,

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Speaker 4: but with the receivers they have in that room, the

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Speaker 4: tight ends that were having the game that they had,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be like, no, Dave's no, Kevin Gilbride put

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Speaker 4: that ball into the air, because we're gonna catch this thing.

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Speaker 5: Get the first down.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna milk this clock and we're gonna end on

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Speaker 4: Victor reformation.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, shame on, Shame on everybody, from.

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Speaker 4: The players to us to the fan base for getting

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Speaker 4: all hype for three quarters and not finishing.

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Speaker 5: Ye not not, That's shame on everybody.

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Speaker 4: And that just tells you where the state of Giants

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Speaker 4: football is, not only from player wise, but for the

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Speaker 4: fans as well, to where we don't have that mentality

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Speaker 4: of the Michael Strahan stomped them out just yet.

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Speaker 5: We were, and especially me, I was getting I was

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Speaker 5: I was ready to take my son to the baby shit.

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Speaker 5: I was going out that night. Ye see, I was

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Speaker 5: ready to go out.

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Speaker 4: But at the same at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: as athletes, as professional athletes and russ you've been around

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Speaker 4: this team, you've covered this game for such a such

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Speaker 4: a long time. We know in the NFL there is

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Speaker 4: no such thing as game over into that clock has

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Speaker 4: four zeros on it. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: from an offensive standpoint, and talk with David Tyree yesterday,

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Speaker 4: as an offense, we're gonna put it on our sales

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Speaker 4: because we put the defense in that situation Hey, and

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Speaker 4: that's what.

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Speaker 2: You that's what you have to do. Though, you have

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Speaker 2: to do that. Mallan talked about Jude after. I love

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Speaker 2: the accountability. He's like, I'm a professional kicker. I'm not

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Speaker 2: making no excuses. There was whatever the operations was that

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Speaker 2: Dave Boss spoke about, I'm a professional kicker. Same thing

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Speaker 2: as a defender. Right, you talked about the offense. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about the defense. They got beat the same

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Speaker 2: way they got beat prior. Right, people getting outside on leverage, right,

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Speaker 2: people getting outside of those defensive backs getting blocked. Right,

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Speaker 2: then all you have to do is basically stay outside

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Speaker 2: to force it back to.

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Speaker 6: The defense back.

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Speaker 2: We've seen that, not even in the losses. We've seen

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Speaker 2: that every week. These things have to be corrected.

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Speaker 3: Be Brian Burns said it best. Everybody coming to Brian.

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Speaker 3: Bryan said, Hey, you can blame whoever you want. It's

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Speaker 3: on us where the players. They're out there get the

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Speaker 3: job done. We are the players. That's it. I mean

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Speaker 3: they said for three quarters, we're all like, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're right ready to go out and party. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is like everything we've been waiting for. Oh, they're

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Speaker 3: going to get killed in Denver blah blah blah, and

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Speaker 3: they're playing that kind of game. They had Denver the

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Speaker 3: Broncos on the ropes in their own thematical building and

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Speaker 3: they just let it, oh, let it get away, wipe

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Speaker 3: the old saying. In an alley fight, you got to

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Speaker 3: keep your foot on the throat of the person you

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Speaker 3: have down. And they didn't do that. That's what not.

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Speaker 1: They did not. They let them off the hook. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, you want to crown up. The Broncos

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Speaker 1: are who we thought they were. But the Giants are

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Speaker 1: going to be turning the page because you know what,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole other game this week. And you know

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Speaker 1: your point too. It's not just it's execution. Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 1: talked about this earlier this week. He said, there's no

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Speaker 1: secret sauce to winning. You just got to execute and

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Speaker 1: sometimes you know whether whatever that may be, you got

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Speaker 1: to find a way to execute into to maintain that

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Speaker 1: for sixty minutes, we got a little bit of deja.

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Speaker 2: Vu, real quick, real quick, mat before you move on,

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Speaker 2: before you got on. There is a secret sauce, they

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Speaker 2: just haven't showed it yet. It's called composure and poise.

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Speaker 2: Those are the two things that because at the end

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Speaker 2: of the day, like they kind of walked away from

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Speaker 2: the Eagles, most games are going to be competitive in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, right, they were walking away from Denver.

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Speaker 2: But Denver's an NFL team, They're a good NFL team

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Speaker 2: with a great head coach.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna they just did this to the Eagles too

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: So composure and poise that that is the secret sauce.

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Speaker 2: That's the secret sauce that these guys got to figure

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Speaker 2: out that when you go to the Philadelphia they get they.

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Speaker 6: Canna remember, they can remember it just happened.

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Speaker 3: You have to have composure points, Madeline. I know you

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Speaker 3: want to get to this point. Let me just make

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Speaker 3: this quick point because Jac's talking about composure. If we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about composure, then we got to give

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Speaker 3: one guy a lot of credit for a composure and

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Speaker 3: that is your young quarterback Jackson d fourth and nineteen.

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Speaker 3: After that, after the interception scored fourth and nineteen, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and nineteen, that young man steps back and nails a

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Speaker 3: first down. Are you kidding?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and get the Rubisser call. Yeah, No, incredible

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Speaker 1: composure from him. Also got to give a little hat

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Speaker 1: tip to Dane Belton, who steps in for the injured

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Speaker 1: Javon Holland played incredible coverage, including that goal line Big year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got to give some flowers around. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of flowers to be given, but it's harder

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Speaker 1: to do so coming off a loss. And it's your point,

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Speaker 1: we have seen Denver do this before. Denver just did

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Speaker 1: this to the Eagles a couple of weeks ago. They

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Speaker 1: were down in the fourth, they came back and mounted

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Speaker 1: a win. Talk about short term memory. We got to remember,

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Speaker 1: but also forget, turn the page, move forward. Got a

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Speaker 1: little deja vous with the Eagles this week. We just

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Speaker 1: saw them two weeks ago at MetLife Stadium. Now going

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Speaker 1: to the link, you guys all know how interesting that

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Speaker 1: environment can be.

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Speaker 3: It's a word that's an interesting word. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's a unique game day experience in the ill adelf

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Speaker 1: But Brandon, you know when you look at this, is

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Speaker 1: this the same approach when you look at this Eagles

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going to be the biggest test for

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Speaker 4: They're gonna the Eagles. They're going to remember everything Kavon

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Speaker 5: Losing to a team that you feel as little bro

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Speaker 4: So they're gonna come out and try and bring BTA

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Speaker 4: then that means that we have not turned that page, Russ.

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Speaker 4: That means that we're not even close to being able

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Speaker 4: this is a different Giants team. So whoever those leaders

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Speaker 5: Yeah, blush it. I'm surprised we even talking about it

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Speaker 5: I go over to the defense, I go.

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Speaker 4: Over to our kickers, punters, everybody, and be like, I

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Speaker 5: So this is a huge one from the Giants, but

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Speaker 1: For me well and to that point though too the

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting because you know, given that the Eagles

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm definitely paying attention to what they're doing

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Speaker 1: And five rushing yards last week.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not saying they're going to just try to

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Speaker 2: it causes us a lot of problems. And Philly with

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Speaker 2: They need to win that turnover battle and they need

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Speaker 2: because this is not a one dimensional team. Hurts get

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Speaker 2: But you saw what he did on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: He torched them.

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Speaker 2: He torched the Patkins. And it wasn't more, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: we know Brandon in this day and age of twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, you don't have to have a great statistical

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Speaker 1: Yeah, big plays a game has been so much more

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Speaker 5: Four big plays a game keep the haters away.

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Speaker 4: That's the way I look at it, especially on the

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Speaker 5: But it all comes.

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Speaker 4: Down to, like like you said, Jac, is just it's

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Speaker 4: technique in details. The Giants defense has the pieces. You

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Speaker 4: look at Cortell Flott. Here's a guy that was battling

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Speaker 5: But it's about detailing that word again, and.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that was though the competition, though the

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Speaker 1: competition between Flaw and Tabanks really brought the most out

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Speaker 1: of both of them. Russ, I see you want to

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Speaker 3: Here, because to go back to what Brandon said, he

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Speaker 3: come out. I'd be shocked. I'd be absolutely shocked and dumbfounded.

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Speaker 3: If the Giants don't come out right from the get go, angry,

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Speaker 1: Want to eat, hit them with bad intentions.

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Speaker 3: No, really, I listen, this team's got to be the

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Speaker 3: we're two and five and we should be five and two.

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Speaker 3: We should have beaten this last opponent, we should have

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Speaker 3: They legitimately look at themselves and they should be five

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Speaker 3: they got to say, you know what, we're good, but

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Speaker 3: we don't show that we're good. So, you know what,

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Speaker 3: I agree from the get go, Brandon they gotta jump

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Speaker 1: Gotta come out, swing in. And this is a game too,

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Speaker 1: with a lot of history. I mean, it's an NFC

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Speaker 1: with that, I think let's get a little bit of

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Speaker 3: So you're talking about what do you know? What do

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Speaker 3: you say, Matt? Okay, we'll do that. All right, Let's

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Speaker 3: take a ganda here the year, if I may, We're

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Speaker 3: going to go back to two thousand and thirteen. That

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Speaker 3: year happened to be the last time that your Giants

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Speaker 3: was fifteen to seven. The Eagles had one quarterback start

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Speaker 5: To Cobb and Michael Vick? Who did you say, Kevin

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Speaker 5: Cobb and Michael Vick.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're right on one of them, Michael Vick. Who's

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Speaker 6: Sam Brafford?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, oh, oh, Kevin Cobb's thirteen.

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Speaker 3: That's the same name. The guy the other quarterbacks got

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Speaker 3: Matt Barkley Bingo, Hello, Matt, Matt Barkley.

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Speaker 1: All right, it was like, for whatever reason, because the

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Speaker 3: Since you guys they're pretty good, I'm going to give

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Speaker 3: you another one. In that game, Eli through for two

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Speaker 1: Two touchdowns a miss p eighteen a safety.

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Speaker 4: Nope, nope, five field goals?

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Speaker 3: Bingo? By whom?

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Speaker 4: What was the big jack kicker from back in the No,

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Speaker 5: Times No, Times is going now, Times is gone, Times

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Speaker 6: Can we get some initials?

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Speaker 7: JB not Jake Brown? Wooh close ba.

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Speaker 3: Josh Brown, Josh Brown.

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Speaker 6: I know it was something?

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Speaker 3: No something, Yeah, you knew it was something back when

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Speaker 6: Why why? Why? Why?

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Speaker 1: Rus are we bringing up all stuff? You know, listen,

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Speaker 1: What do you say as.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very impressed. You guys have really improved each week.

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Speaker 1: We're struggling, but we're building on something. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: this is a great time for us to look at

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Speaker 1: some of the greatest Giants and so what we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a little group project for us build the Giants

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Speaker 1: quarter century offense. Offensive players from the year two thousand

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Speaker 3: Hello, that's I believe.

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Speaker 1: Across the board. Yeah, so one Eli manning quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Lots all right, Three wide receivers from the year two

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Speaker 5: Plax Plax, Victor Cruise obj.

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Speaker 3: Okay, did somebody forget about a.

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Speaker 1: Money the Giants all time leading We're not first of all?

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Speaker 1: Moni's on the list.

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Speaker 2: I would have to pick, and I love plaques. I

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Speaker 2: gotta pick Amani over Plax.

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Speaker 5: Take was like, that's too much of a hot take.

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Speaker 4: We could I would swap out Okay, since we're swapping

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Speaker 5: I get the same with Obj. I mean, Obj, we

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Speaker 5: gotta throw on that list.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, obviously you got to get reached back

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Speaker 1: like one three in there. But yeah, Amani tumor starts

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Speaker 1: the list as the Giants all time leading receiver. All right,

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Speaker 1: so we've got Amani obj plaques. Yeah, consensus receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, any wait, I just I got disconnected, came

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Speaker 2: back in.

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Speaker 6: So we took vicoff and you.

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Speaker 1: Might dropped, you might dropped, and you're just like out

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Speaker 1: of here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think we took vicoff in favor of Amani.

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Speaker 3: What Amiani has to be there has to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who would you take it?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 2: Because I'm thinking outside receivers, right, You've got two outside

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Speaker 2: receivers for me. And I told Drew Brees this and

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Speaker 2: I truly believe this. When he was healthy, I've never

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Speaker 2: seen an athlete like Obj. I've never seen anything like him.

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Speaker 2: And I played with great wide receivers, right, Marcus Coles

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Speaker 2: and Lance Moore in New Orleans. Mike Evans when he

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Speaker 2: was young in Tampa. I've never seen anything like OBJ.

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Speaker 2: So he's on one outside and and I think the

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Speaker 2: Moni's on the other outside, right, So I'm thinking victim

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Speaker 2: is slot. That's that was my three. It wasn't really

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Speaker 2: like top three. It was more like who is my ex?

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Speaker 5: Who's my Z?

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Speaker 6: Who's my slot? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: Uh Russ, who's your tiebreaker? Who's our three?

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Speaker 3: My three has to be a money has to be

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Speaker 3: a money oh b J. And I'd say Plexico, all right,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going with who's playing a slot taking wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm going all right, two tight ends.

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Speaker 3: Shockey got to go to.

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, are you putting Shocky over Kevin Boss?

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Speaker 6: Or ends?

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Speaker 5: Who starts? But who starts shots?

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Speaker 1: Let's keep it moment. We're just building the roster here,

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Speaker 1: all right, Shocky and Boss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would I would say that three.

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Speaker 1: Lineman Sea O'Hara, obviously obviously Sean Sean.

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Speaker 3: I would say quite me. Personally, I would say Sean.

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Speaker 3: I would say Chris Snee and I'm going to give

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Speaker 3: you one who's current, because I don't Thomas. I don't

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Speaker 3: think people realize how, you know, because of the the

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Speaker 3: problems that they've had. He is not good. He is terrific.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you can see how the old

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Speaker 3: line has just been solidified just because he's back. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to getting a current player on the rush.

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Speaker 6: That was a mic drop moment.

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Speaker 2: I don't think me and Brandon have any protests to

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Speaker 2: those three.

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Speaker 1: I agree. And finally, two running backs two thousand to

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Speaker 1: current day, who's the two running backs scatabooes not yet. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I got to show love to my son, devel over you.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go the original forty four.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it has to be my Bradshaw and Brandon,

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Speaker 4: Jacob and Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, we gotta be fair.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's you gotta.

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Speaker 3: Be Tiki has to be to be Yeah, Tiki. And

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Speaker 3: that's what.

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Speaker 5: That's a backfield right there.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna mix it up. I'm gonna mix it up.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep my Tiki. So everybody got a different

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Speaker 2: running back group, and I'm gonna go a team.

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Speaker 1: Though we're doing this is a group projects.

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Speaker 6: So okay, but.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throwing I'm gonna throwing one more guy in

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Speaker 2: then we could decide. So I'm going Tiki. So we

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Speaker 2: got Tiki in. Tiki's a lock, and I'm going Brandon

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Speaker 2: Jacobs a little bit of speed and all around back

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Speaker 2: power back.

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Speaker 1: It has been decided, all right, So Tiki and Brandon

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Speaker 1: Jacobs are our running backs. Eli as the quarterback, Amani

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Speaker 1: Plaques Obj the receivers, Shocky and Boss at tight end,

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Speaker 1: Sean O'Hara, Christnie and Andrew Thomas offensive lineman. Out to

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Speaker 1: the All Giants quarter Century Squad. Hot Tit producer Pearson

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Speaker 1: for throwing that little fun little game together. Let's get

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Speaker 1: a little rapid fire. We got Giants Eagles coming up

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at the link. Because he is over under

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Speaker 1: one and a half sacks for the Giants defense.

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Speaker 6: I'm going over. I believe in this past rush.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Philly ends up trying to run the

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Speaker 2: ball seventy times, that's the only way I think they'll

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Speaker 2: avoid that number from being more than that.

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Speaker 3: Russ I'm going over. Also, I you know, I'm not

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Speaker 3: saying they're going to get a ton, but yeah, one

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Speaker 3: and a half. I think they can get to I'll

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Speaker 3: go with you.

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Speaker 6: Burns probably have one and a half bombs self.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, I'm going over.

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Speaker 5: And I don't even think it's gonna be Burns. I

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Speaker 5: think a duel.

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Speaker 4: Carter is just ticked off right now and he's so close,

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Speaker 4: so I think Abdul is gonna get have two sacks

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Speaker 4: on his own.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the over. Also, I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: and these guys are coming in playing angry after Denver,

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Speaker 1: We're going to see a little aggressive here. Over under

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Speaker 1: twenty two points scored for the Giants offense.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Oh, I'm gonna go under on this one because

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Speaker 4: we're using the tight end so much in his twelve personnel.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a ball control type game.

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Speaker 4: Run the football and then use the quick game to get.

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Speaker 5: The ball out as well. But I'll go under on

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Speaker 5: this one.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a defensive win or defensive

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Speaker 4: type game.

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Speaker 1: Russ.

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Speaker 3: Wait, that number. That's a good number. Twenty two.

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Speaker 5: It's a great number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that that really is that?

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Speaker 1: That's a swift wrote a song about it.

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Speaker 3: That's a close number. I'm gonna I'm going with over.

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Speaker 3: I think the Giants are gonna get themselves twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna win the game twenty four something.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go over all right, Casillas.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go over to.

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Speaker 2: This kid, Jackson man like like he mad. He may

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Speaker 2: make a lot of mistakes, but he got some bighnas.

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Speaker 2: You think he got some stuff with him. He just

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Speaker 2: has that no fear mentality. You know, we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: like the multi interception game, but he's the type of

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Speaker 2: guy how to throw four interceptions and still throw the

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Speaker 2: ball in in double coverage, you know, but like that

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 1: He has that goldfish mentality where he can bounce back

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Speaker 1: to the next play.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're right.

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Speaker 1: We've heard guys on both sides of the ball talking

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Speaker 1: about how contagious that man's a dog he shows up.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think they're going to be getting some

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Speaker 1: points on the board in this one. Finally, let's just

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Speaker 1: go yes or no on this one. Do we see

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Speaker 1: a tight end touchdown in Philadelphia? Russ? Yes or no?

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Speaker 3: Well, if you remember last week, Brandon and I were

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Speaker 3: talking about the tight ends, we're going to be the

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Speaker 3: key factors in the game. And each one of them

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Speaker 3: caught a touchdown. I'm going with it. Listen with short

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Speaker 3: on wide receivers. Okay, so that being a case, I

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Speaker 3: think the same thing applies. Well, we get one from

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Speaker 3: a tight end. Yeah, yeah, I'll say yes, yes, I'll say.

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Speaker 5: Brandon without a doubt. His name is Daniel Bellinger, Belly.

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Speaker 1: Jackson dart to Belly is gonna be I'm nicknaming you

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Speaker 1: this summer, I turned gritty. Why not see es yes

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Speaker 1: or no?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not I'm gonna follow your rules. You said

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Speaker 2: say yes or no. Russ gave us a two minute speech.

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Speaker 3: Hi. I oh, but you're still ticked off me because

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Speaker 3: I keep bringing up to fifty two forty nine with

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Speaker 3: the great he's playing the hits. I like you.

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Speaker 2: I like you when I see you at the facility,

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Speaker 2: you are cool. When we get on a hunt hangouts,

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Speaker 2: it's like, let me see if jac with a body

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Speaker 2: shot real.

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Speaker 5: Que hanging out, were hanging out. That's the whole point

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Speaker 5: of the hangout. Ole boy.

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Speaker 1: All right, listen, we're gonna see a tight end touchdown.

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Speaker 1: We're feeling good about the defensive sacks, We're feeling good

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Speaker 1: about the points on the board. Giants Eagles Sunday at

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Speaker 1: the Link the rematch, We'll see how it all goes down.

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Speaker 1: But that's a wrap for our week eight Giants Hangout,

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Speaker 5: Seven