1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: From UFOs two Ghosts and government cover ups. History is 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to now. And 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: with that we are back. My name is Matt and 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: I and Ben and this is stuff they don't want 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: you to know. That's right. If you are looking for 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: this podcast, you are in the right place. It is 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: still legal, ladies and gentlemen, UH to manufacture, import, sell, 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: or distribute UH this podcast also like to UH give 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: an introduction here as always, who are super producer? Noel 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: on the ones and twos? It is still he's also 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: on the threes. He's also in the threes. He's on 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: several numbers. It's also still legal for him to manufacture, produce, import, 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: and export UH podcast. That's correct. You know, it's interesting 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: how the control of things like ideas, things that you 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: can put into your body. It's weird the way governments 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: and states and other entities try to control what you 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: can do with your own body. And it's strange too 19 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: because what we see is that there are so many 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: laws prohibiting certain things. There are very few laws in 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: comparison that mandate certain things rightly. And UH. The idea 22 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: of prohibition, ladies and gentlemen, is what we are talking 23 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: about today. It's what we've been spending the whole week 24 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: on and we found some crazy stuff. Oh yes we did, 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: so let's get started. What is prohibition, Well, it's essentially 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: the act of forbidding something anything. Really. It's usually used 27 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: in a legal context, and it doesn't just have to 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: apply to something like an alcohol or a drug. That 29 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: would include things like us certain dress codes that that 30 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: are worn for religion okay, yeah, or even for legal 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: purposes or private businesses. The old no shirt, no shoes, 32 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: no service. They are prohibiting your nudity, that's right. Uh. 33 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: In the United States, the word prohibition has a very 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: specific meaning. Though. When we say prohibition, we're not talking 35 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: about being prohibited from walking on the grass or smoking 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: cigarettes by hospital. We're talking specifically about an era in 37 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: United States history where Congress changed the Constitution UH to 38 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: ban specifically one type of substance. Uh. This is the 39 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: eighteenth Amendment and will read just a small part here, 40 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: prohibiting the manufacturer, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within 41 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: the importation they're open to or the exportation they're off 42 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: from the United States and alter Tory, subject to the 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: jurisdiction there are for beverage purposes. Interestingly enough, you will 44 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: notice that this law does a couple of things in 45 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: it omits a couple of things because it does say 46 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: that you cannot make and cannot sell and you cannot 47 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: transport alcohol, but it doesn't say you can't consume alcohol. 48 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: That's right. And we found some weird things too. There 49 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: were some bluepoles if you already own some booze when 50 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: this went into effect and you got to keep it. 51 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Doctors could legally prescribe whiskey at a pharmacy, which led 52 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: to a whole other cana badgers. Well, yeah, that was 53 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: a whole another thing. Where do you get the whiskey then? Right? Yeah, 54 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: which reminds me of resurrection men, where it's you where 55 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: it's legal to experiment on human corpses, but it's not 56 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: legal to buy human corps Uh. So yeah, let's get 57 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: back to prohibition. Yes, So, just for some context, the 58 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 1: Senate and the House of United Its States, this House 59 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: of Representatives, they both passed resolutions for this amendment in 60 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen. Then it was ratified in nineteen nineteen and 61 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: officially went into effect in nineteen twenty. That's right, January seventeenth, 62 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: which means it happened this week. It's the anniversary of prohibition. 63 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: So weird. It is weird, isn't it. Time is weird 64 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: and history is weird. And uh, no offense to the 65 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: teetotalers in the crowd. But the advocates of alcohol prohibition 66 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: in the United States were very strangely motivated. They were 67 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: not so much motivated by fact as they were motivated 68 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: by ideology. So here's what they said. They said that 69 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: alcohol would lead us to a dystopian world, that there 70 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: would be rampant crime, everybody would be an alcoholic, and 71 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: there would be dissipating moral character. Now, one ugly truth 72 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: about the code word or in politics they called a 73 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: dog whistle like moral character used in the nineteen twenties. 74 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: It means objecting to stuff like interracial relationships or like 75 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: women having too many rights and things like that. So 76 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: moral character is not exactly what we would associate with 77 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: good a good morality today, right. Yeah, And they thought 78 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: if they'd banned alcohol, they could basically save the world 79 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: or at least the United States, that you would bring 80 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of sweeping changes, just basically saving the nation, 81 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: increasing the economy, and guaranteeing that public safety would be upheld. 82 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: And they were so wrong. In our video that came 83 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: out this week, we uh, we did a law called 84 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: three Ways Prohibition Shaped America, and we talked about some 85 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: of the unintended effects of this policy. Yeah, that's right. 86 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: We went over a lot of the same stuff, but 87 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: I would highly recommend watching the video just to get 88 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: more of the details. Sure, yeah, and the ways which 89 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: the effects of this policy completely contradicted the predicted effects. Right, So, 90 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: how has if that's prohibition, that's prohibition, United States. This 91 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: prohibition is the word. How has prohibition been practiced? So, 92 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: one thing we know is that prohibition of one sort 93 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: or another occurs all over the world in virtually every country. 94 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: And uh, some countries have harsher penalties. Uh in some 95 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: places of Southeast Asia. If you are caught smuggling drugs 96 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: a lot, basically a Schedule one drug equivalent of such, 97 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna get some intense prison sentences and sometimes the 98 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: death penalty. Yeah. And some countries practice a prohibition so 99 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: severe their interpretation of is so severe that, for example, 100 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: I believe it's Japan. You can have trouble getting a 101 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: visa if you have a past conviction for some drugs 102 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: I think, like marijuana specifically. Uh. Then there are also, 103 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: of course prohibitions as you mentioned, on certain types of 104 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: dress that will affect you if you visit a certain country. Right, 105 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: that's right. We know that in the United States, of course, 106 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: prohibition did not end with the alcohol prohibition era of 107 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen thirty three. Prohibition of one substance or another 108 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: continues today. Um. You know, like heroin is still illegal 109 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: in the United States and it probably always will be. Yeah. Yeah, 110 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: marijuana is kind of it's it's still prohibited from a 111 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: nationwide standpoint. Then when you go down to the States, 112 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: it seems to be a routing. Um, I'm interested to 113 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: see where that goes. Yeah, it's strange to have this 114 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: podcast coming out while these laws are still in flux 115 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: and changing, and you have to wonder what's going to 116 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: happen because the federal government at this level is in 117 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: opposition at loggerheads with many state governments, which is a 118 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: bizarre thing. We've been there before. Well, let's see what happens. 119 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: Are you referring to the Civil War. Okay, So let's 120 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: talk about the effects of prohibition specifically in the United States, 121 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: and let's start with what people often call the bottom line, Matt, 122 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the economic effects. Well, prohibition cost hundreds 123 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars to enforce during a time when 124 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: really the average worker, the average person, let's say, for instance, 125 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: a Ford factory worker, Uh, they didn't make much money. 126 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: That Ford factory worker only made about five dollars a day. 127 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: So how much would you say it costs the US 128 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: government to enforce this policy. Well, according to an article 129 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: that I was looking at from PBS, uh and it 130 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: cost over three hundred million dollars in nineteen twenties and 131 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: nine twenty dollars, which is, if you convert that to 132 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, that equals roughly thirty seven billion. 133 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: That's a lot of scratch, my friends. That is just 134 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: to prevent people from drinking a substance that you were 135 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: already making money on before. Uh. And at the national level, 136 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: we see that prohibition had a hidden cost, which was 137 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: tax revenue that was lost. People would pay excise tax 138 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: form or sometimes called a sin tax on boos right. Uh. 139 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: In the nineteen twenties, This equal to eleven billion dollars 140 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: in lost tax revenue. And we're talking about a period 141 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: from nineteen twenty to I think nineteen thirty three. Yeah, 142 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: so that's you know, that's a long while there, thirteen years. 143 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: But still, uh man, that amount of money is crazy. 144 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: Oh and should we equate it as well? To By 145 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: my mind, it's only a hundred and thirty five point 146 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: six billion, So that's nuts pocket change, right, But I 147 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: guess if you're making such a moral decisions, yeah, this 148 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: is for the good of the country as at large, right, 149 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: because otherwise people start listening to jazz. Right. Um. Anyhow, 150 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: there were other costs too, and many of these hit states, 151 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: um the hardest. The states lost a lot of tax 152 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: revenue from this, but the private sector also took a 153 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: huge hit. So advocates of prohibition when this when this 154 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: first came out, they claimed that the active banning alcohol 155 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: would lead to an economic boom, right, because people aren't 156 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: spending their money on whiskey or brandy or beer or 157 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: whatever they're drinking. Instead, they're going to be spending their 158 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: money on other disposable or consumable goods soda, popcorn, exactly. 159 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: You just will spread it out. But you're gonna see 160 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: a pattern here. None of that happened. Oh yeah, let's 161 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: also say rent was supposed to increase as bars closed 162 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods improved, and did that happen either, No, it 163 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: did not, sir. In fact, entertainment of all sorts slumped 164 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: during this time because restaurants, which are making a lot 165 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: of their money off of selling liquor. You know, let's 166 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: say Jack, who works as a bar bartender, He's already 167 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: lost his job, right because you don't need a bartender anymore. 168 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: But what about what about Jane. She's she works at 169 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: the restaurant too, she's a server. She makes most of 170 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: her tips off of selling alcohol. Well, she doesn't make 171 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: those anymore. You don't need so many more Janes, so 172 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: they lose their jobs as well. So these Janes and 173 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Jack's are out of jobs by the thousands. But it's 174 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: not even that. It's the entertainment industry where you, you know, 175 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: you put on in a club a show, but you 176 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: make most of your money while people are watching your 177 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: show and drinking liquor. Yes, thousands of Jane's and Jack's 178 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: not just in restaurants, but in entertainment venues across the 179 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: nation find themselves out of a job because the product 180 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: that their industry directly or indirectly depends upon is all 181 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden illegal. Now there's something here that that 182 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: you have for us about how the how the tax 183 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: situation affected the states. Oh yeah, this was something I've 184 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: read from a piece by Ken Burns, again from PBS, 185 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: but he was talking about how so many states relied 186 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: on these excise taxes from liquor to basically to set 187 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: up their state budget. And one example in particular was 188 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: New York, which he says derived almost seventy of its 189 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: money from these excise taxes. And that's pretty crazy. Where 190 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: are you gonna get that much money. I don't know 191 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: exactly what number it is, but seventy of their operating 192 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: budget came from these taxes. Funny you should say that 193 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: income taxes and spoiler alert for the video. That's one 194 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: of the things that we talk about in the video 195 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: that I don't think a lot of people I certainly 196 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: didn't know. Uh. I don't think a lot of people 197 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: were aware. Uh that prohibition in a way set uh 198 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: set up part of the income tax system you have today, 199 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: depending upon which state you reside of it, Yeah, exactly, 200 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: And we're not talking about federal income tax in particular, 201 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about your state um and that it's it's 202 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: interesting because there are places like Florida. I don't know 203 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: if you saw what The Daily Show just did a 204 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: little thing on Florida. Anyways, it was about they kept 205 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: talking about how Florida has no income tax and that's 206 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: the reason that you should go to Florida because there's 207 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: absolutely zero state income tax. And uh that to me, 208 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: it's because that's a lot of money. I don't know 209 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: how much any of you guys pay, but I end 210 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: up paying a pretty penny for my state income taxes. 211 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: And we know that there were lasting health effects from 212 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: prohibition as well, so of course people who are opponents 213 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: of prohibition in the modern age. Typically what these opponents 214 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: like to do is to draw a comparison to other 215 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: prohibitive laws, such as you know, drug laws, right. But 216 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: one one of the things that you cannot ignore and 217 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: cannot argue away, whether you are pro pro ahibition or 218 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: anti prohibition, it's that it kind of worked in in 219 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: the fact that people drank less and most of the 220 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: diseases associated with drinking at the time declined except for one, 221 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: and that is alcoholism. There were more alcoholics uh at 222 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: the end of prohibition than there were before in the 223 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, the teens. Yeah, because again, it wasn't illegal 224 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: to drink alcohol, and it wasn't like you couldn't find 225 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: alcohol much in the same way, if you are in 226 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: any city in the United States, while marijuana is illegal, 227 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: you can probably find it somewhere. Right. And one more 228 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: note about health that will segue us into the next 229 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: important point is that you're right. You could find tainted 230 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: alcohol on this black market. You could find alcohol that 231 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: somebody made in there are still at their house, you know. 232 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: And it's not safe. It's not regulated. Who knows what 233 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: you're putting in yourself, right, Yeah, there could be various 234 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: combinations of trace metals, chemical impurities. This stuff could not 235 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: only kill you, but it could paralyze you. It could 236 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: strike you blind. If you've ever seen those jokes or 237 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: those old cartoons about someone drinking moonshine and their eyes 238 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: turned to x's and they can't see anything, that's true. Yeah, 239 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: that was a real danger and it's still a real 240 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: danger if you're not buying your alcohol from a reputable place. Yeah, 241 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: but anyway, so then then we're gonna get more into 242 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: the criminal and legal aspects of or the effects of prohibition. 243 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: So one of the most important things to look at 244 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: here is something that apparently none of the people who 245 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: were putting this together really saw coming, and that was 246 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: the rise of organized crime, bootleggers and all kinds of corruption, 247 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: because there's so much money involved when you create a 248 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: black market, especially for something that's already so ubiquitous like alcohol. 249 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: We talked we talked about in the video how there 250 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: was such an infrastructure to this stuff around and produced 251 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: this stuff and when you all of a sudden cut 252 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: it off, Well, somebody's going to pick up the slack. 253 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: And people have been illegally making uh different forms of 254 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: alcohol like moonshine or something uh nash whiskey for a 255 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: long time. The only thing that made them illegal manufacturers 256 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: is that they weren't licensed and they were dodging taxes. 257 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: So this infrastructure to create it illegally also already existed, 258 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: but it expanded at a very swift rate when they 259 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: realized how much money could be involved here. There there's 260 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: so many weird ways in which bootlegging shaped modern America. 261 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: For those of you who are listening who are fans 262 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: of racing, the rumors that you've heard, the anecdotes you 263 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: may have heard are true. Bootlegging is the origin of 264 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: NASCAR racing. The people who made uh history is some 265 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: of the first racers started out as bootleggers, and they 266 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: souped up their cars so that they would be less 267 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: likely to be caught by the cops that they hadn't 268 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: paid off yet. This is something you've covered in car stuff, right, Yeah, 269 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: this is something we talked about in car stuff. With 270 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: the origins of racing, you also hear people say that 271 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: the origins of some political dynasties are based in bootlegging. 272 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Now we have to say, allegedly, the great Kennedy patriarch 273 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: was illegally importing liquor allegedly, right yeah, so, uh make 274 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: of that what you will. We'd love to hear what 275 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: you think about this, but there is no way around it. 276 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: This channeled enormous amounts of money into the black market. Uh. 277 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: There are so many great says about prohibition because the 278 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: country itself seemed to widely turn against this fairly quickly, 279 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: and it became one of those easily ignored laws. People 280 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: would say things like, oh uh, Congressman will vote for 281 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: prohibition as long as they can stumble to the poll 282 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: and wow uh and we know that we know that 283 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: this affected the rule of law. Right. We we've talked 284 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: a little bit in our videos about corruption, but we 285 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: haven't really talked about some of the conspiracies and whether 286 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: or not prohibition works, you know, in terms of pros 287 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: and cons. So let's get to that. But before we do, 288 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it's time for a word from very old 289 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: sponsor of ours, one of our favorites. Actually, oh excellent, 290 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: let's get to it. Well, hey there, friend, I couldn't help, 291 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: but notice you'll look in a little mobi. What's what's 292 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: going on? Actually? I am feeling rather moby. I'm stinking 293 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: tired all these dune the heads telling me what I 294 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: can and cannot do. No, you mean tikto outlaws, the 295 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: pro busitionists and whatnot? Oh everyone who's so sick of it? 296 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: Why can't I just do what I will? Well, buddy, unfortunately, 297 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: that's not how America works unless you're one of the 298 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: top top, top, top top men. Yes, I can't stand 299 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: this place. I'm going to have to go back across 300 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: the pond, I think fairly soon. Now hold on their friends, 301 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Have you considered that, Uh, maybe it's not other people 302 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: but you whose mind needs changing the devil? You say, why, 303 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I guess what? Have I told you? That was just 304 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: a simple pill once a day. You could be absolutely 305 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: fine with other people in power telling you what you 306 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: could or could not do based entirely on their opinions. 307 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: You mean drug myself so that I forget that this 308 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: is happening. Don't think of prohibit all as a drug, 309 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: my friend, think of it as an opportunity here, try 310 00:19:51,040 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: this all right, try anything once? They say, huh, I 311 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: don't know that I feel anything different. Well, how do 312 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: you feel about not being allowed to drink whiskey? Whiskey? Well, 313 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, honestly, I don't know. Well, what if 314 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: I told you you can't have any more chewing gumm? 315 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: It's a devil paste? That sounds legitimate? Now, a friend, 316 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: I think I persuaded to do that. Prohibit all is 317 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: indeed the pill? Or you sure? Let's go with it? Yes, 318 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, prohibit all. Why try to change the 319 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: world with facts or figures when you can simply change 320 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: your mind with legal drugship. It all is not afforded 321 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: medicine broep. It all has not improved by the N 322 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: S A C I A T N T A B C, 323 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: the U S d A, the f D A, the 324 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: mp A. Fourth Saturday, I fine, please disntinu use of 325 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: prohibitol if you notice any of the bottling symptoms. Let's 326 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: side like this fight side having his pants, lack of 327 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: coffee based, stinky on, weird neck, jitters, specifics, the shovels. 328 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: Prohibit all is brought to you by Illumination Global Unlimited. 329 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: And now it's time for I don't know about you, Matt, 330 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: but one of my favorite parts of the show. Here's 331 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. I love it when you say that, Ben. 332 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: I think we all collectively love it when you say 333 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: that we we need to get some kind of ring 334 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: tone with you just saying that it's probably prohibited. You 335 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: think so, I can imagine where here are the facts 336 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: you can set up for people that you want to 337 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: speak with maybe, And then here's where it gets crazy. 338 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: It's interesting. A lot of people don't know this unless 339 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: they've listened to our show for a long time, but 340 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: you have an amazing vocal repertoire, Oh stop it all right. Well, 341 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: what we won't stop doing is talking about prohibition because 342 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: the reason we said here's where it gets crazy is 343 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: because of course we are talking about conspiracies during the 344 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: prohibition era. These are not conspiracy theories, as we say 345 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: in the video. These are not you know, rumors, are 346 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: tenuous connections. This is stuff that actually happened. Gangsters like 347 00:21:54,920 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: al Capone actually did network with UH bootleggers to and 348 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: sport whiskey with law enforcement either turn a blind eye 349 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: or in some cases assist. And this assistance could take 350 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: a number of different roles. You might have somebody who 351 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: works in a precinct who lets you know if a 352 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: raid is coming, right, and they might do that for 353 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: just the bottle of whiskey or something I know, and 354 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: that's all it would take. And you just got to 355 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: think about that corruption. We're going to get more into 356 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: that corruption that this led to, um because you're you're 357 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: talking about everything from pharmacies like where you're actually gonna 358 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: go pick up Remember we talked about how drug some 359 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: of alcohol were considered a drug, right, Yeah, And if 360 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: you had a prescription, then a pharmacist could dispense various 361 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: forms of alcohol to you as a medicinal thing. I 362 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that was intended to treat. It 363 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: sounds a little bit like a purposefully vague loophole to me. 364 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: But I was going to say medicinal marijuana. But you know, 365 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: there there, let's say there needs to be more research. Sure, 366 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: let's say there needs to be more research. We do 367 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: know that a lot of the criminal organizations would buy 368 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: pharmacies and would own them so that this would be 369 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: a front for them to uh launder booze, yeah, and money. Um. 370 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Another thing that we kind of look over sometimes is 371 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: the religious aspect of alcohol for things like communion and 372 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: religious authorities that you know, they need this stuff for 373 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: their ceremonies, so it would you know, you could usually 374 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: get some for the church, but a lot of times 375 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: criminals would come in and you know, lay down their 376 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: law right. All of a sudden, there's a new priest 377 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: or there's a new rabbi in town who can help 378 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: you get the help you get wine or something. Yeah, 379 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: you could say there were a lot more people going 380 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: to church or to syne God claiming to be church officials, etcetera. 381 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: Um a lot more people were going to the pharmacy 382 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: with annabulous medical conditions, right. Uh. Corporations also had a 383 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: little bit of I don't know if this is a conspiracy, 384 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: but well, I guess it kind of is, because they 385 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: cooperated to get around the law. Grape manufacturers Ventors, for instance, 386 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: would issue these grape juice kits that would have warnings 387 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: on them that said, don't let this sit too long. 388 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: That's so awesome, you know. Um, the same thing happened 389 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: with malt people, manufacturers of beer. They would sell malt kits, uh, 390 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: and you know for cooking and other things like that. 391 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: But you only need a couple of other things and 392 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: you got some beer. Yes, And of course they legally 393 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: had a warning on there saying something like don't let 394 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: this sit around too long, warning it may ferment into 395 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: an alcoholic beverage because that would be a problem. So 396 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: there's another troubling conspiracy. Again, these are not theories. These 397 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: are things that actually happened. And if you've already watched 398 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: our video for this week, I think you know what 399 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: we're about to bring up in this show today. Yeah, 400 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: that is overall corruption from the very bottom to the top. 401 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: And so we talked about this corruption, but we haven't 402 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: really talked in super specific terms. And why is that, Well, 403 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: it's because it's it's tremendously difficult to estimate with with 404 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: concrete numbers how much corruption was just rampant through everything 405 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: from the very bottom to the very top at this time, 406 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: because everybody could get a piece, and there was so 407 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: much money being made on the black market that if 408 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: you it's almost like if you chose to turn away 409 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: and be the good person and not make the money, 410 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: it was almost like you were, uh, cheating your It's crazy, 411 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: You're you're almost cheating yourself out of the future for 412 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: not only yourself, but for your children. Because it feels 413 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: like there was from for me what I've been researching, 414 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: I feel like there was so much sentiment against prohibition 415 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: at the time, even from when it was first introduced, 416 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: that I feel like you could almost tell that it 417 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: was a something that would go away. I see, So 418 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: it may be felt for most of America as though 419 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: it were going to be a ephemeral or temporary thing. Sure, 420 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: a temporary thing that if you didn't hop on and 421 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: make some money while this was happening, it's almost like 422 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: playing the stock market. The way I see playing the 423 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: stock market right now now is that where it's this 424 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: thing that will eventually go away because it's unsustainable. It 425 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: doesn't for me, it doesn't work after learning enough about it. 426 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: But if you don't hop on and try and make 427 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: some money, then you know what what am I doing 428 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: with my whatever two th dollars having my savings account? Yeah, 429 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: I feel like you might be giving me a hard sell, 430 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: but you make an excellent point. You make an excellent 431 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: point about corruption because corruption is one of those things 432 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: that some studies confirm grows in sort of a no 433 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: ball effect way. We know that in countries today that 434 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: don't have the most uniform or dependable rule of law, 435 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: public officials are dramatically underpaid and bribes are part of 436 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: their job, as in, if they were not taking bribes, 437 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: they would not be making enough money to sustain themselves. Um, 438 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: in some cultures or they'll you hear them called corruption cultures, 439 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: But bribery is just sort of another tax or fee 440 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: that's on top of it, you know. And it's it's 441 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: funny because I had a and a friend who is 442 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: not from this country, and she told me that she 443 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: considered tipping you know, Americans and tippings very different u 444 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: in comparison to a lot of other countries. She told 445 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: me that she considered tipping a form of bribery. She's like, well, 446 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: you're just bribing them to make sure they don't spit 447 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: in your food or something. Yeah, I thought that was fascinating, um, 448 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: And I couldn't really refute her point that well, met, Well, 449 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me the service industry in that way, 450 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: because you're you're taking the onus off of the owner 451 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: or the people that are paying their staff, and putting 452 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: it on directly on the server themselves to do a 453 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: great job. And if you don't do a great job, 454 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: you're not going to get paid. Well, you know, personally, 455 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I always tip. I think that especially in this country, 456 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's important. You would have to do a 457 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: lot to make me not tip you. It would be weird. Yeah. 458 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: I spend enough time carrying around a trade that I 459 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: understand what it's like. So yeah, I always tip it, 460 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: sometimes to my own detriment, because I shouldn't. Like you said, now, 461 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: going back to the the idea of prohibition, the idea 462 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: of corruption, we see something that I would like to 463 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: argue is a moral corruption, and maybe not the kind 464 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: you would expect. This was, by far, in my opinion, 465 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: that the most disturbing thing we found while came into 466 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: uh the history of prohibition. Uh. This is a conspiracy again, 467 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: not a theory. This is completely proven, and the United 468 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: States was the culprit. The U. S. Treasury Department specifically. 469 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: We think this is so important we based our entire 470 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: Friday or maybe Saturday episode on this. So you gotta understand. 471 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: If you are the federal government and you've decided that 472 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: you cannot transport or do all this stuff with alcohol, 473 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: even though you didn't make it illegal for people to drink, 474 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: you look outside your window and you see people walking 475 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: around on the street just drinking booze, and you're like, 476 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: oh man, this is this is crazy. We've got to 477 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: find another way to enforce this. So before we see 478 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: exactly what the Treasury Department did, let's give just a 479 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: little bit of background. The Treasury Department was tasked with 480 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: monitoring these alcohol interdiction operations. Right. Uh. The people who 481 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: were make being illegal booze were stealing industrial alcohol. There 482 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: was a problem of scale. A lot of times they 483 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: would steal it, right, and it's d natured alcohol, right, yes, 484 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: And D natured alcohol describes alcohol which essentially grain alcohol 485 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: that has a bunch of other nasty tasting stuff added 486 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: to it in the best case scenario. The other scenarios, 487 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: they would add chemicals that make it dangerous or impossible 488 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: physically impossible to drink a lot. Uh So, what they 489 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: would do, what these criminal originations would do, is they 490 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: would they would steal millions of gallons of this D 491 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: natured alcohol and they would take it to the chemists 492 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: that they were paying, and their chemists would redistill it 493 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: and make it drinkable again in theory. So this is 494 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: happening everywhere. Industrial alcohol is getting stolen left and right. 495 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: The Treasury Department says, you know what, We're going to 496 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: change the d naturing process. Uh So they ordered essentially 497 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: matt the poisoning of industrial alcohol manufactured in the United States. Yeah, 498 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: and it was all too scare people. It was a 499 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: scare tactic to stop people from drinking. Because if you 500 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: see that there are a couple of people you know 501 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: down your street who got poisoned, then maybe you don't 502 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: want to pick up that that stolen bootlegged alcohol. And 503 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about people dying. More people got violently ill 504 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: than died, but still quite a few people died. I think, uh, 505 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: seven hundred in just in New York. And by the 506 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: by the time prohibition ended, the the government had poisoned 507 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: at least by some estimates, and killed over ten thousand people. Yes, 508 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: And what's strange and disturbing about this chapter in American 509 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: history is that the government itself said, uh, this is 510 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: so morally important that we can compromise on morals in 511 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: the pursuit of this higher good, this greater good, right, 512 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: this higher goal. Yeah, We're gonna actively, knowingly poison these 513 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: people because it is so bad. This alcohol thing is 514 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: such a devil's drink that, you know, if we don't 515 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: stop it now, just our our whole way of life 516 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: is going down the tubes. And uh. But then in 517 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: December five, prohibition was lifted, and oh, the celebration was had. Yes, 518 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: the celebration has had. People were back to drinking, But 519 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: of course the country did not move on completely from 520 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: the effects of prohibition. So now let's talk about if 521 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: prohibition works, because some people believe it does and some 522 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: people believe it doesn't. Clearly, clearly, there were some difficulties 523 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: with the specifics of alcohol prohibition, right, But other countries 524 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: do alcohol prohibition pretty well, even in the modern day. 525 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: You know, um Iran Saudi Arabia have i think specialized 526 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: exemptions for religious minorities or for nationals at embassies or 527 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: at hotels. But then other than that, the entire country 528 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: is a dry country. And again because of that, there 529 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: is a small black market for alcohol in places like that, 530 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: but it is not as uh, I use the word 531 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: you pick, it isn't as widespread. Well, yeah, and I 532 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: think part of it is that those were not necessarily 533 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: heavily drinking cultures beforehand the way that the United States was. 534 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: But let's let's talk pros and cons. We've got any 535 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: pros for prohibition, sure, Well, For one, it reduced the 536 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: amount of alcohol drinkers across the population, so fewer people 537 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: were doing alcohol. Whether you agree or disagree with the policy, 538 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: regardless of your basis for that belief, there's no denying 539 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: that in this sense prohibition worked, uh, to just stop 540 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: the number of people who are getting wasted all the time, right, yeah, 541 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: and then also reduce the number of serious drinking ailments 542 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: they might have, like cirrhosis, stuff like that. Um. And 543 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: it addressed the moral panic of alcohol consumption, right yeah, absolutely. Um. Oh, 544 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: and it also made NASCAR, which could be a proer con. 545 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: I think it's pro but it depends on how you 546 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: feel about racing, I guess. And it probably influenced racing 547 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: all over the place. Um. There are some bad things though, right. Yeah. 548 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: One thing that's probably going to be a big one 549 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: for a lot of you out there listening today is 550 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: that prohibition removes freedom of choice. Yeah. That is a 551 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: huge fundamental of the United States. And who knows, it 552 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: didn't work out as we've seen, so maybe that freedom 553 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: trumped somebody else's moral panic. Uh. This also promoted the 554 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: rise of complex organized, enormously profitable black markets, which, as 555 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 1: we that led to a rising crime and a rise 556 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: in corruption. Uh. That rising crime, which I think a 557 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: lot of people might not completely realize, is something that 558 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: would fuel criminal organizations for years or even decades afterward. Yeah, 559 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: it showed you just how much money you can make 560 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: when there's a black market. And then it translated to 561 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: other drugs, other things that were prohibited, things like sex 562 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: workers of just all that kind of stuff. It just 563 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: opened the eyes of people that maybe we would have 564 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: rather liked to keep their eyes closed. We also know 565 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: that this uh wrought unforeseen economic damage. And I know 566 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like we're being very very negative about prohibition, 567 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: but these are the facts, and that's why the prohibition 568 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: era is largely seen as a failed policy. And we're 569 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 1: also not saying, hey, you should drink alcohol or anything 570 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: like that. It is just a fact fat alcohol is 571 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: consumed in the United States at some pretty high levels, right, 572 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: and well the numbers are there. If you want to 573 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: save money, don't drink there. You go for a number 574 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: of reasons. But uh, but let's talk about prohibition today. 575 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: Let's close there. Maybe the Eighteenth Amendment was repealed, as 576 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: you said, December five three. However it wasn't when it 577 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: was repealed. It's not like everybody just decided to sell 578 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: boo hoodles of alcohol. Uh, you've got local You can 579 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: look at these maps now where you can see in 580 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: the United States where they're still dry counties because they 581 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: allowed for some local options. Let's say, where if your 582 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: municipality decided, well we still want to be a dry county, 583 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: then you could be and you can't sell alcohol. You've 584 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: you've probably been on a road trip before many of 585 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: you where you'll stop by a Kroger sometimes, or you know, 586 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: you stop by a place where you wouldn't normally find 587 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: alcohol and there's just tons of alcohol in there, and 588 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: then other places you'll find that there is not a 589 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: single drop of alcohol for miles right. And then you 590 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: might also run into an area that had as one 591 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,439 Speaker 1: of the so called blue laws where you can't buy 592 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: alcohol during certain hours on Sundays, like it was in 593 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: Georgia for a long time. So now this means that 594 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: thirty eight percent of the US populations living in areas 595 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: with state or local prohibitions after prohibition. Uh. Currently there 596 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: are hundreds of dry counties across the US, which you know, 597 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: it's about ten percent of the area of the US 598 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: I guess would be technically dry. So you can pretty 599 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: much always drive to another area. UM, but some states, 600 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: I think it's Utah, have laws that if if they're 601 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: not prohibiting the sale of alcohol, they're prohibiting the strength 602 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: of the kind or the type that you can buy, 603 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: which you know, which is also the case with fireworks 604 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: in some states. So it's it's tough to be holier 605 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: than now. One part of the whole big experiment that 606 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: is the United States is that states get to make 607 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: their own laws up to a point exactly. Oh and 608 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: just a reminder, in most places, you cannot drink alcohol 609 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: on a public street, just walking around. We're just in 610 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: public in general, so you gotta keep that to a 611 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: private location. You probably shouldn't even if it's legal. It 612 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: seems like more of a recipe for a bad day 613 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,280 Speaker 1: or a bad night than it does for an adventure. 614 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: I think anyone who's been to New Orleans Nolan knows 615 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: the consequences of a hand grenade, a night of hand grenades, 616 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: A night of hand grenades, And what better phrase to 617 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: end on, Ladies and gentlemen. We hope that you enjoyed 618 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: this podcast as much as we enjoyed making it. 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