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Speaker 1: Welcome to How to Money. I'm Joel and I am Matt,

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Speaker 1: and today we're talking about why we love biking. I

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Speaker 1: love it so Matt, we're best friends, were doing a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Let's tell everybody what we're up to. Yeah, so we

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Speaker 1: want to be able to live a rich life unless money.

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Speaker 1: So it's not all about being frugal and ways to

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Speaker 1: save money. That that's what we're gonna talk about. But

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Speaker 1: it's just about ways that we think you can live

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Speaker 1: a richer, more robust life. Yeah, we're not coupon clippers,

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Speaker 1: but we're all about saving money and living a better life.

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Speaker 1: And we don't think it takes money to live the

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Speaker 1: life necessarily live in the life we want to live

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Speaker 1: to just yeah, absolutely, we want to live a life

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Speaker 1: where if we won the lottery, it wouldn't change our

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Speaker 1: lives all that much, right, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: That's like, that's the way I think that if I

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Speaker 1: won ten million dollars tomorrow, it changes It would change

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Speaker 1: the little bit, but a little bit, but like my

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't overall all my life, it wouldn't be all

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Speaker 1: that different. Like money is not what makes the difference.

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Speaker 1: That's totally true. Travel more, that's for sure, Yes, no

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Speaker 1: doubt anyway, Stop, we gotta we gotta drink in that vein.

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Speaker 1: We like to drink in beer's. Yeah. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: craft beer may not be your thing, but we really

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Speaker 1: like it. And so we thought, you know, what, might

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Speaker 1: not be a bad idea to have a beer while

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Speaker 1: we're talking about life life stuff. All right, Matt, So

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Speaker 1: what's the beer that we're drinking today? Every episode we're

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Speaker 1: gonna drink a different beer and it's gonna be freaking

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Speaker 1: super tasty, and we'll drink it while we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the subject at hand, which today, like we said, is biking.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talking about biking and how biking changes their life,

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Speaker 1: saves you money. It's pretty much all around awesome. But

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Speaker 1: tell them abut the beer we're drinking, Matt, Yeah, thanks

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Speaker 1: for bringing this over. Uh yeah, we're drinking beer by Founders.

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Speaker 1: It's called backwards Bastard. It is dirty bastard aged in

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Speaker 1: oak bourbon barrels. Remember the first time I had this

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Speaker 1: a few years ago. It's more than a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: it's probably been like five years or something like that now.

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Speaker 1: But just tasting that woody oakness, it's such a good

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Speaker 1: winter beer. It's like welcoming the win, like the colder months,

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Speaker 1: like it is now. It's perfect. Yeah, and I'm really excited.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the podcast will kind of give

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Speaker 1: you guys our tasting notes, like what we think about

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Speaker 1: Backwoods Bastard in this particular year of it. But this, truly,

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, is one of my all time

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Speaker 1: and it's a little expensive. I think it was fourteen

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Speaker 1: tasty in an age as well. So we're drinking one now.

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Speaker 1: Lay one of these down for next year too. Cheers, man, cheers,

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Speaker 1: thanks for bringing this over alright, So onto the subject

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Speaker 1: hand biking and Matt, I'll confess that my life has changed.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you actually got me into biking, and

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Speaker 1: it's something I've kind of forgotten for a while, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I'm back into it. Wait, so

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Speaker 1: and then one of my wife's best friends. Her dad

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Speaker 1: I keep kicking the pants, you know. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people feel that way, right. There's just a

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Speaker 1: It's called Capital Bike Share. I don't know. You join

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Speaker 1: And if you parked it back into another station within

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Speaker 1: But you're like Hallin asked so that you can get

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Speaker 1: And also just think about childhood and it made me

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Speaker 1: think about Stranger Things, the show Stranger Things, and I

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Speaker 1: And I think my favorite season one episode one. They

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Speaker 1: And it's different to being at home and biking. Right,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, that how good? Does that? Make you feel

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Speaker 1: a that's a great way just for folks to try

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Speaker 1: it out there, right, I'm like, figure out your route,

425
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 1: like if you know, specifically, if you're looking to to

426
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: do this on a to commute to work, do it

427
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,439
Speaker 1: when there's not when you don't have to be in

428
00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: it at exact an exact time. Yeah, it goes sometimes

429
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 1: when you've got plenty time to to try it out.

430
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Speaker 1: Do it on a Friday when some of your coworkers

431
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 1: are working working from home or something like that, like

432
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 1: Friday or Saturday. Just take it easy to go for

433
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 1: a ride and yeah, like Joel, you'll probably find that yeah,

434
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 1: you mean the right, Like you found that it wasn't

435
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 1: even that big of a deal. You're like, wait a minute,

436
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm like already here. Well, the interesting thing for me, honestly,

437
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: the biggest change was I wanted to like beat my

438
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: head against some windshield in traffic. And now when you

439
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 1: went back to driving, yeah, oh man. Every time after

440
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: when I would when I would drive after starting to

441
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: bike on a regular basis, it was, I mean, it

442
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: was mind numbing. Um and I just get tired of

443
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: the traffic really quickly. I I it just frustrated me

444
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: more than it ever had before, even you're used to

445
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 1: just cruising along and living the good life. Yeah, And

446
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 1: the interesting thing, I think people will think a couple

447
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 1: of things. People will think that it's dangerous in traffic,

448
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: which depending on your route and where you're going on

449
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: your bike, it can be a little nerve wracking. You

450
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 1: gotta watch out, you gotta be careful, you gotta watch out,

451
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 1: have all your safety basis covered. Wear a helmet, Always

452
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: wear a helmet. People like, that's yeah, wear helmet. I

453
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 1: think even if you're going on like a one mile

454
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: bike ride in a neighborhood where your helmet, like there's

455
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: dummies out there, so you can hit a big rock

456
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: or something on the street and you know, not be

457
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: paying attention and flip over where a helmet. But I

458
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: think people, yeah, we'll we'll think it's unsafe and they'll

459
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: also one of the other big reasons that they won't

460
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,239
Speaker 1: bike is over using their cars. They think their car

461
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: gets in there a lot faster, even if they're stuck

462
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: in traffic, they think their car gets there them there faster.

463
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: And some of the statistics bear out that really, especially

464
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: in urban areas where where you're getting there in the

465
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 1: same amount of time, And I think they say that

466
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Speaker 1: the average speed of a car in like downtown traffic

467
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Speaker 1: is like eighteen miles an hour and the average beat

468
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: of a bikes like thirteen miles an hour or something. Again,

469
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: so really it's like it's a small it's a small

470
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Speaker 1: difference in the amount of time. And I've found, truly

471
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Speaker 1: after logging it, that my bike commutes have been faster

472
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: than my car commutes. Nice. How long does it take

473
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: you to get to work? Yeah, it's about twenty five

474
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: minutes minutes, that's pretty awesome. Yeah, and so in my car,

475
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: my car commute sometimes on the way end, uh, it's

476
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: it's always less. On the way end would be close

477
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Speaker 1: to that, maybe about twenty two to twenty five minutes,

478
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: but on the way home it would be anywhere from

479
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: thirty minutes to forty minutes that afternoon traffic. And just

480
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Speaker 1: to know that when I leave that I'll be home

481
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: in twenty five minutes no matter what, is so nice.

482
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't have to like, Okay, what's what are things

483
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna be? Like? I don't have to deal with the

484
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: interstate in this stoplights, Well, you still have stop flights

485
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: when you're riding home, but yeah, but in like this

486
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 1: god forsaken mess of a city, what are things gonna

487
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: look like traffic wise? Son, I wanted to worry about that.

488
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna assume that folks were thinking, Yeah, I

489
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: can't do that because I'm not in shape. You're gonna

490
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 1: share the folks like you don't have a normal bike, right,

491
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: No I don't, So yeah, let's talk about that. So

492
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Speaker 1: the reason my my bike commune is so short too,

493
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: and I have two bikes, so I've ridden my road bike. Well,

494
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 1: so the free bike that you got from your ex's

495
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: dad or something, my wife's that's fairing of that. That

496
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: one takes about thirty eight minutes to get in. But

497
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: I have an electric bike too, So the electric bike

498
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: is what I ride in on most days. And that's

499
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Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. The main reason is to

500
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Speaker 1: avoid being sweaty and nasty when I get into work,

501
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: and the second reason is to cut my commute time down.

502
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: So it's literally saving me. I think of it as

503
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Speaker 1: saving me time, and but I still get a workout in. Yeah,

504
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: but it's not like you're riding like like a car.

505
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Speaker 1: You're just cruising up hills when normally you'd probably be

506
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: kind of sweating it out a little bit, right, totally.

507
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: We're going super slow because like some of these hills.

508
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: We live in Atlanta, some of the hills here ridiculous, right,

509
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: and to go up some of those hills takes quite

510
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: a while. You're going to super slow pace. So it's

511
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: really nice to have an electric bike going up those hills.

512
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Speaker 1: But you still, I mean, you're still peddling toy. So yeah,

513
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: here's a common misconception about electric bikes is that they're

514
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: all They're doing the whole work for you. It's like

515
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: a scooter or something like that that you just turn

516
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: the throttle and go, which some electric bikes come with

517
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: a throttle, like the turbo boost. Yeah. So like the

518
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: only time Oliver you use the throttle is usually if

519
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm at like a stoplight and I've got the girls

520
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: on the back or something like that, and I'm like

521
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: I quick start just yeah, like kind of helps me

522
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: get going. But for the most part, it's runs on

523
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Speaker 1: the pedal assist and so like the motor is sensing

524
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: your your revolutions of your foot and it's kind of

525
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: keeping track with that, and so it it kind of

526
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: gives you a boost it powers when you work yeah, right, yeah,

527
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: it's like we're doing this all right, let's go. Yeah.

528
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: And so the great thing is like, literally I can

529
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Speaker 1: I can feel like on that twenty five minute ride

530
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: like I got in average amount of workout, or I

531
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: can feel like I beasted it and it went really hard.

532
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: And usually on the way in, I kind of go

533
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Speaker 1: for average. On the way home, I go for beast

534
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: mode because you want to get home. Well, I get

535
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: home when I can be sweaty when I get home.

536
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 1: It's not so. But I think a lot of people

537
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: think electric bike, Oh, what a loser, You don't do

538
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: anything Joel breaking a sweat. I'd like to see that,

539
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: But you still get you still get a workout. And

540
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: then for me, that's that's one of the biggest reasons

541
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: why I like it is that, I mean, I just

542
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: don't like paying for things that I don't have to

543
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: pay for. So if I can ride my bike and

544
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: still get a workout in, that's gonna make me happy.

545
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: Right Like I don't have to drive into a gym

546
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: and god forbid sit on a stationary bike like, there's

547
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: no way I want to do that. When I can

548
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: be outside like zipping around the city. Um, so I

549
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: don't have an e bike, an electric bike, but I

550
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: just got a regular, regular bike and I've got our

551
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: cargo bike as well that I can put the girls on,

552
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: and U joel, we put the girls on there. So

553
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: for school, yeah, we take Usually I take the girls

554
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 1: into school in the morning, I take my daughter and

555
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: you're both of our oldest daughters. And then you pick

556
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: them up from k downtown. Um yeah, and then I

557
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: pick them up you know at like you know, in

558
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: the middle of the day when when school's over. But

559
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: for me, three miles each way. Ah yeah, I think.

560
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: So I don't even know. Man's I don't even care.

561
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: Just gets get the ride, you know, hop on the

562
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: bike and ride. And for me, that's like when I

563
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: can be fit. I mean, you know, I sit at

564
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: the computer all day at home working and like I

565
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: just have this thing where I feel like I'm dying

566
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: if I'm not like moving, literally my temperature drops and

567
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm dying. And so hopping on the bike,

568
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I just feel alive, gets a gets a blood blood

569
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: pumping again. And for it's not like I worked out

570
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: much harder than you do on on a bike, like

571
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: you still get a workout too, but it's just a

572
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: way for me to get the blood flow and get

573
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: some fresh air. And if I were to take the

574
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: car and to go get the girls and come, you know,

575
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: come back and drop her off and stuff like that,

576
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: it's literally a difference of ten minutes, like ten maybe

577
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. But I mean I can get there within

578
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: five minutes as if I were to take a vehicle,

579
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: but so much more satisfying. And yeah, yeah, and most

580
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: people awesome to go get their work out, they drive

581
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen minutes somewhere maybe you know, maybe just

582
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: maybe just four or five minutes, maybe it's really close by.

583
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: Still you're in a vehicle, like yeah, but you're driving

584
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: somewhere to go get your work out. And I know

585
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: you're silly to me, you're super against that, right man. Yeah,

586
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: I hate that, Like when I do something so like

587
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: if bike just does everything. Bikes are just like this

588
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: like miracle machine, like it save his money, you stay

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: in shape, um, and it's just better for like the world.

590
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: It means better for me to be in my bike

591
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: than you know, my Honda four thousand pound vehicle. Uh,

592
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: driving around Like there's things that you can do when

593
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you're on a bike as it compared to your vehicle. Right. Yeah,

594
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: so one of my favorite things too about buying that's

595
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: really I feel like kind of honestly, I I don't

596
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: say life changing about like almost anything, but that's kind

597
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: of changed my life. It's uh, it's really put me

598
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: in touch with my city. I feel like I know

599
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: my town better. I see more people than I know,

600
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: like walking or biking on the on on the paths

601
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: or on the streets. I just feel like Atlanta means

602
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: more to me riding through run through it like that,

603
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, Like I love it so much more just

604
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: biking on it through it every day. Yeah, it's not

605
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: just like the landscape that you have to get through

606
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: to get to where you're going. It's yeah, part of

607
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Yeah. Well, normally I feel like I'm

608
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: focused on the guy in front of me who's texting

609
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: and you know, not moving when we're at a red

610
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: light or no, yeah, when it turns green and then

611
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: it's not moving, that's the worst. Or I'm just like

612
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: wondering why am I going three miles an hour on

613
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: the Downtown connector like it's and I'm not thinking any

614
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: of that stuff. On my bike, my eyes are up.

615
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the great things around me, like

616
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: the weather. I noticed the I don't know, I noticed

617
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: weather patterns differently and they have to. But yeah, yeah,

618
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: but it's good. Yeah, you know, it doesn't it make

619
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: it. It It makes you tough, and it makes you It

620
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: puts you in touch with the world. And for me,

621
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: it puts us in touch with like our neighbors too.

622
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: Like when I'm in my van. In our van, I'm

623
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: not stopping and slowing down to like say hey to

624
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: folks as I see them, like in the yard working

625
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: or something. But you know what, if I'm on the bike,

626
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: get a little bell a ring, you know, and like

627
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: wave to him, and if they stop working, it's like, okay,

628
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: I'll kind of go in there and talk to him

629
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. Like you can't, you know, you don't

630
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: do that in your car. Like in your car, you're

631
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: in this protected cocoon and point A to point B.

632
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: The bike just changes the mentality of travel, like it's

633
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: just all about the stuff around you, Like you said,

634
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: the weather, the city that you're driving, like they're riding

635
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: through and it's just better until you experience it, like regularly.

636
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Speaker 1: I feel like most folks hop on a bike and

637
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Speaker 1: they pedal really hard and they sweat, and they're like, oh,

638
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: this sucks. But once you kind of get into the

639
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: routine and the rhythms of it, man, it's yeah, it's

640
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: it's good. I'd tell people too. If you're gonna start biking,

641
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Speaker 1: which you should, you start keeping track with like an

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Speaker 1: odometer or something like that. You I can download one

643
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Speaker 1: on your phone. Keep track of the miles that it

644
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Speaker 1: takes you to get places over time. So let's say

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Speaker 1: in one month, you know, you you just started, and

646
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Speaker 1: you bike forty miles that month, you know, because you

647
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Speaker 1: did a bunch of one to two mile rides to

648
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Speaker 1: the grocery store. That's cool. Give yourself the i r

649
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Speaker 1: S Standard rate of mileage of fifty two cents a

650
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Speaker 1: mile or whatever it is. Now maybe it's a little

651
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Speaker 1: bit more. And what is that? That's like what the

652
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: the I r S says that you it cost per

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00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: mile to drive a car, a normal car for most people,

654
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Speaker 1: your car, to operate your car, including gas, wear and tear,

655
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff. That's what they reimburse so or what's

656
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: tax right offable? If you can keep track of that

657
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: and kind of put that money aside into like a

658
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Speaker 1: side bank account, save up for something really fun or

659
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Speaker 1: different or interesting that you're you know, traveling somewhere or

660
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: a weekend get away, or some new gear for your bike.

661
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: Start putting that money aside. That's a cool way to

662
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: kind of think about it and start to kind of

663
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: get into it and give yourself a little challenge, like,

664
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Speaker 1: all right, this is gonna be my force method to savings.

665
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Every time I ride my bike, I make a little

666
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: money for the next thing I'm I'm gearing up for.

667
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: It's like a little bonus. Yeah, totally, It's pretty cool.

668
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Did I tell you about um? I met with like

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: recently some clients of mine and we're we got talking

670
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: and somehow bikes came up, obviously because bikes are awesome.

671
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: And this past summer he and somebody's road across the country,

672
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: like but straight up the whole country. Yeah, and which

673
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but in reality coast to west coast. Yeah,

674
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: they started in Savannah, I think you said, I mean

675
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: they're from Atlanta too, but Savannah to San Diego. And he'said,

676
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: this surprised me, but it took him. It only took

677
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: him sixty days, like two months. That crazy. How in

678
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: the world is that possible. It's yeah, it's it's very possible.

679
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: Because I asked him, I was like, what is that,

680
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: Like how what were you guys averaging and he said

681
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: he said they were averaging like thirty something miles a day,

682
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: when like, I, I, yeah, because I've thought about hike

683
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Speaker 1: in the a T. I've had friends that hike to

684
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: a T and it's something like, you know, that's just

685
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: goes from Georgia up to Maine. I don't know how

686
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: many months, but it's most like five months or something

687
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: like that. And that's if you don't have any hiccups

688
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: or any problems to ride your bike across the country.

689
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: I think a super I don't know, two months in

690
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: the summer. It's like, oh, that's like summer break for

691
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: if your kids are in school. Obviously I'm not gonna

692
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: go with like, we're not gonna go with our kids.

693
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: They had pioneers and they did camped, you know, on

694
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: the side of the road. Man. Yeah, I was super Yeah,

695
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: I've never met any way that's done that. And I

696
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: was like, I was super impressed. But that was blake.

697
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: He was just like yeah, we did, like bike across

698
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: the country. He took us, took a sixty days and

699
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: they like raise some money and stuff too. But maybe

700
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: somebody will make that happen. Man, I've always said Winnebago,

701
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll do the bikes, which, yeah, I don't

702
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: know if the girls will be We'll be down with that.

703
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Our wives might be like, yeah, that's good. Point might

704
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: be a boys trip only boys trip come down. But

705
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, it sounds sounds good at me.

706
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: So back to the beer man, what do you think

707
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: about this? Ah, this is a great beer. Back was

708
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: bastard by founders again is what we're drinking. Um, it's

709
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: a scotchail aged in oak bourbon barrels. And I think

710
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: on this beer you get uh, a lot of oak,

711
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of vanilla. Yeah, I feel like dark multi

712
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: what's the A b D on this one? A leven

713
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: point two. I think that's bigger, you know, not quite

714
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: wine territory, but maybe twice as big as your standard

715
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: PBR dark beer. If you want to try something different,

716
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: you know you like stouts or darker beers. If you

717
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: know you don't like I p A s, then this

718
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: is your beer. Yeah. Yeah, and it's got I'll be honest,

719
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: it's got a really sweet logo on the front. I

720
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: love the the old man. Yeah, I love the art

721
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: with holding the freaking acts with a dope beard and

722
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: hat on it. That's pretty like a Rip van Winkle

723
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, that's pretty. That's pretty sweet. Beer can

724
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: art or beer bottle art. Um. Yeah, this beer is

725
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: one of my I mean, it's been one of my

726
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: favorites for a lot of years and didn't disappoint this year.

727
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: In um, pick yourself up some backwits, bastard, and enjoy

728
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: it slowly and deliberately on a weekend night, preferably because yeah, man,

729
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: that's high a B B Saturday, That's that's when we're recording. Yep,

730
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: it's nice. I don't really work on Saturday nights or

731
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, Saturdays in general. We'll talk about that maybe

732
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: in the future. But yeah, I'm thout you're not working,

733
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: but we could drink this beer and talk about bikes. Yeah, man,

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00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: absolutely so, I guess to wrap things up, the reason

735
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: biking is awesome is it's fun, creates awesome memories and

736
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: that lasts forever, and when it comes your it comes

737
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: your wallet. It's it's affordable though too right, you know,

738
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: like compared to driving around, and it's a little different

739
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: than the one are and we can maybe we we'll

740
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: talk about that in the future too, when once Stiel

741
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: goes like full on one car family and he's riding

742
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: to work in the in the middle of winter. I'll

743
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: keep you updated, dude, are you gonna do it like soon?

744
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: You think in the next So I figure, I told myself,

745
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: I get my off six months, like six months of

746
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: steady community on, okay, so to get through the actual

747
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: winter to kind of get it for you get a

748
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: feel for the seasons and get a feel for you know,

749
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: doing it over that long period of time and how

750
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: sustainable is it for me? And so after six months,

751
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: I'll I think I'm gonna make a call and make

752
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: the call and win in the spring when it's nice

753
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: and warm and yeah, I love it every day. It's oh,

754
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: it's so great. Yeah. I guess we'll see how brutal

755
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: the winter is, but I know that, you know, January

756
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be the worst. We'll see how that works.

757
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: But we'll get there and I'll keep you guys up

758
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: to speed on that. Thanks so much, everyone, for listening.

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