1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Today is the last episode of season one of our podcast. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: We have been posting one episode a week for fifty 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: six weeks. We have interviewed six award winning journalists, thirteen founders, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: six elite athletes, ten musicians. We also completed the Wicked trifecta. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: When you guys are watching our running interview show, you're 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: only seeing a three minute version of what often is 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: an hour long conversation. Post run High was born as 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: a way to show you guys, more of our conversations 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: and also to capitalize on that post run or workout 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: endorphins rush that you feel only after you move your body. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about three things. First is what we have 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: learned through season one, what we're going to be doing 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: in season two, and then just talking about our life 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: updates as well. Hi guys, it's your host, Kate Max. 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in to today's episode. 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Your support truly allows us to keep growing the show 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: and bringing you conversations we can learn from together. I 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: am so excited for what next season, starting in January, 19 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: has in store for us. If you've been enjoying the podcast, 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: please make sure to follow us wherever you listen and 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: feel free to connect with us on social at Post 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: run High and my personal account at Kate Max. We 23 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: always love hearing from you. After this short break, we 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: will get into our season one Rapped. What's up, guys, 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Post Run High. I just went for 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: a little three mile solo run and did a bit 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: of a workout after, so my endorphins are flowing. I'm 28 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: feeling good, and I am just so excited for us 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: to get into today's season one Rapped episode. So Yes, 30 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: today is the last episode of season one of our podcast, 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: and it is so crazy to say that since we 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: have been posting one episode a week for fifty six weeks. 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: So yes, season one went on for a little bit 34 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: over one year. But that does not mean we are 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: stopping filming. We have a very busy December ahead of 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: us as we gear up for season two, which we 37 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: will be launching in January. So thank you guys so 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: much for your support this past year as we have 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: taken on this podcasting journey. It has been such a 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: learning experience for me and my team, and your faith 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: in us is the reason we are able to continue 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: doing this show for season two. I have personally found 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: so much purpose in being able to go deeper with 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: our guests after our runs, and we are just so 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: excited to keep growing these conversations with you, and we're 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: so excited to bring on guests we can learn from together. 47 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: And I will dive more into what I mean by 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: that in a few minutes, but first I just want 49 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: to say people always ask me why I started this show, 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: and since it is just you and I here for 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: a little bit, I figured let's talk about it. So 52 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: first of all, the post run High podcast would not 53 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: exist without the Running interview show, which is how I 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: got my start on social media. Back in twenty twenty three. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: My husband and I had the idea to create a 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: show where movement and conversation could exist together. And I 57 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: talk about this a lot, but Running has always been 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: the place where I think clearly and where I can 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: get really honest with myself. And what Jeremy and I 60 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: realized is that other people open up the same way 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: when they're moving. And we are actually going to have 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: a psychologist on soon in season two that is going 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: to dive into this phenomena a little bit more with us. 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: That person may or may not be my mother in law, 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: but Jeremy and I brainstormed together and we thought to ourselves, 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: what if we captured that phenomena on camera, and what 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: if we let people be themselves, let them be out 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: of breath, you know, unpolished in motion and on a 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: run or a walk with me leading the conversation. And 70 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: then after almost two years of doing the running interview show, 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: we started having the urge to go deeper with our guests. 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: And when you guys are watching our running Interview show, 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: you're only seeing a three minute version of what often 74 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: is an hour long or thirty minute long running or 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: walking conversation. So post Run High was born as a 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: way to show you guys more of our conversations and 77 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: also to capitalize on that post run or workout indorphins 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: rush that you feel only after you move your body. 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: And so that is a very simplified version of how 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: post Run High was born. Not to mention our team 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: having to also learn how to use all of this 82 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: production gear, build a set in Brooklyn and build sets 83 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: across the country whenever we are filming on the go. 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: We film a lot of episodes on the go and 85 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: meet people where they are and also learn all the 86 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: things that go into post production, which I could spend 87 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: hours talking about, and guys, we have definitely not mastered 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: any of this yet, but we've had a lot of 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: fun learning along the way and just challenging ourselves to 90 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: figure it out with our tiny team of people help them. 91 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: And speaking of our studio in Brooklyn, I have to 92 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 1: say this because this is one of the last times 93 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: you guys are going to see me here in our 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,239 Speaker 1: Brooklyn studio for a few months, because we are heading 95 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: to la for the winter because a it is freezing 96 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: in New York and b after almost three years of 97 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: doing our Running Interview Show, I have learned that it 98 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: is very hard to convince people to go for runs 99 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: in sub thirty degree fahrenheit weather. And if I'm being 100 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: totally honest, as I've gotten older, I feel the same way. 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: I used to be a little psycho that could run 102 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: in freezing cold weather, I could run in the snow, 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: and now I have to say that with my lifetime membership, 104 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: I've gotten a little bit spoiled and a little bit comfortable, 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: and it's very hard for me to run outside. So yes, 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: we will be filming both the Running Interview Show and 107 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: post run high out in La through the end of February, 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: and then we're going to be spending a week in Austin, 109 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Texas to also film the show, and then finally making 110 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: our way home to New York City for the foreseeable future. 111 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: Because guys, I have a very big life update, probably 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: my biggest, that we will get to at the end 113 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: of this episode with Jeremy, and it's going to require 114 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: me to hunker down for a little bit here in 115 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: New York and you guys are actually going to be 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: the first people to know about it today. So for 117 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: today's episode, without further ado, Jeremy, come on, come on, 118 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: come on, come on. We're talking about three things said 119 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: it in the beginning of the episode. First is what 120 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: we have learned through season one, what we're going to 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: be doing in season two, and then just talking about 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: our life updates as well. Well. 123 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: Kate, thank you so much for having me. I've overheard 124 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: this show so many times. 125 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: Jeremy Warden, welcome to post run high. 126 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: How are you feeling well? While you were running earlier, 127 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: I was doing Soto Soto method app which Hillary Hillary Hoffman, 128 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: that's her name, got a good thing going on, And yeah, 129 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: I didn't run, but I'm feeling good. 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy and I have found One of our personal 131 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five updates is that we have like fallen 132 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: in love with Soto Method. And I felt really lucky 133 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: because I actually got to do a video with Hillary Hoffman, 134 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: who is the founder of Sodo. 135 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 2: Method and running video. 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: Well, yes, we did a running I ever on the 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: podcast though you should. Yeah, she's awesome. 138 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm a fan. I feel like it's like when people 139 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: are fans of Peloton instructors. Yeah, I never I never 140 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 2: was on the Peloton bandwagon, but I'm on the Sodo app. 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: I love Sodo Method. I love all the instructors that 142 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: are in her studio and also on the app. It's 143 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: so cool to see them in person and then also 144 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: do the app. So for people listening, we just have 145 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: to set some contexts here. Sodo Method is an in 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: studio workout class in New York City that also has 147 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: an app. The same instructors that are teaching in studio 148 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: teach on the app. The classes are exactly the same. 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: So I love it because it's way more affordable than 150 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: going to the class all the time. Although I do 151 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: like to treat myself a couple times a month to 152 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: going to the class in person, saying hi to the 153 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: instructors because they have become like a little fitness family 154 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: for me and the city, and I like going and 155 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: working out with friends. Obviously I'm a big workout with 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: a friend or a buddy type of person. Anyways, it's 157 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: a really great app. I actually was at the gym 158 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: today after my run doing a quick thirty minute Sodo 159 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: session which I did not make it all the way through, 160 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: so whatever. But the girl that was also in the 161 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: same studio as me, I noticed, was doing a Sodo 162 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Method workout class too, So it's. 163 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: Gonna blow up. I mean, I must say I am 164 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: when I go to those classes. I I'm the only guy, 165 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: and when I'm on the app, there are not a 166 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: lot of well actually I don't think there are any 167 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: male instructors on the app, but I still do it. 168 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Honestly, there should be. I feel like they should get 169 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: a couple guys because it's such a good workout for 170 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: girls and guys, and I see guys in the class 171 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: all the time. 172 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: When Hilary comes on the pod, well this discussion. 173 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe Jeremy will be the first Sodo Method male 174 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: instructor dream come true. Do you think you could teach 175 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: a Sodo method class? No? Do you think you understand 176 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: the format? Though? 177 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: At this point I get it, and I think what 178 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: I like about it is it's very time efficient, Like 179 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: you can go on the app and I know today, 180 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: sorry we didn't, I didn't come on to talk about 181 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 2: the soda, but here we are. But like you can, 182 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: there's five minute classes, ten minute classes, fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty, 183 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: thirty five, forty, all the way up to an hour. 184 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: So for me, like today, I went down, I was 185 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 2: on the treadmill a little bit and then I was like, 186 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: all right, I got to call in thirty five minutes. 187 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna do a thirty minute Soto. So 188 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: I like that. It's like super time efficient. 189 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, super time efficient. And I know you mentioned Peloton before. 190 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm also a big fan of Peloton, and during COVID, 191 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I was like doing Peloton spin classes every single day. 192 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of just their like Matt 193 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: workout classes, and they also are really efficient with timing, 194 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: like they do ten minute, twenty minute whatever workouts. And 195 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: it's funny because I feel like during COVID, I didn't. 196 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: I didn't totally understand the like the purpose behind like 197 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: a fifteen minute workout. You know. I was kind of like, well, 198 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: that's not a real workout. But now as I've gotten older, 199 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, and if I don't have that much time 200 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: in a day and I only have fifteen minutes, Like, 201 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: there's something about those fifteen minute classes is that actually 202 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: are great and still make you feel good. And I 203 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: think it just goes to show that any amount of 204 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: movement throughout a day, whether you have five minutes or 205 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: ninety minutes, it still makes you feel good just to 206 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: move your body. 207 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: I remember when you had the knee surgery following was 208 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: that the last time you ran the New York City Marathon? 209 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Yep, the last time I ran the New York City Marathon? 210 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh God, should we tell the whole story? 211 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: Let's tell story? 212 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: Oh go, we're here for again, the last time, the 213 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: last time I ran the New York City marathons. 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: The post run high fam today, Yeah, they can learn it, 215 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 2: and I. 216 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: Promise guys, we have a set schedule for today's for 217 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: today's episode, but whatever, we'll riff for a little bit. 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: But Jeremy and I had gone out in August to 219 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: see your brother in Colorado. It was the first time 220 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: I was meeting your older brother, Alex. And you are 221 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: going to be able to do a better job explaining Alex. 222 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: So maybe you kind of explain your brother and then 223 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. He's like he's in the army. He's 224 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: an adrenaline junkie. He is very much so a risk taker, 225 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: and I think that's because he had cancer when he 226 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: was a kid, and now he's somebody that just like 227 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: sees life in a different way and it takes things 228 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: to the extreme. And so basically the first day we 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: got to Colorado, he took us on this hike on 230 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: basically the side of the highway. It was like an 231 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: unmarked trail. It was kind of like if you're on 232 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: the highway driving in a car, you know those moments 233 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: where you're. 234 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 2: Like, also known as a mountain. Okay, took up a. 235 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: Mountain mountain, Yes, but I'm like, but I just want to. 236 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: Got there by the highway to get. 237 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: There, Okay. But for the girls and the guys listening, 238 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: this is like how I would explain it. Do you 239 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: know those times when you're driving on the highway and 240 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: you're kind of just like in the car in your 241 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: you're in your own thoughts and you're just like looking 242 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: up at the mountains that you're passing while driving and 243 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: thinking to yourself, could I climb that? Like that is 244 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: exactly what we did. We climbed one of those and 245 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: we did it out there. 246 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: I don't have to use your hands. It was a legit. 247 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: It wasn't like we you know when you see the 248 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: videos and people have the shoes that like so somehow 249 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: clip into the mountain and they have a hook on 250 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: their hand that they they reach up and grab and pull. 251 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. But there were parts where you 252 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: actually had to like use your hands and like kind 253 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: of crawl upwards. 254 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly could have used It was mostly it. 255 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: Was mostly a walk hike. Yeah, But then we got 256 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 2: to the top. I remember just thinking like, oh and 257 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 2: we wanted to catch the sunset. So we got to 258 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: the top. Beautiful sunset. Amazing. It was a very beautiful moment. 259 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: I think it was a good moment for for all 260 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 2: of our our relationship. Uh, and then it was a 261 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: terrible moment for for our relationship because cake Gate goes. Okay, 262 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: so like where's the where's the stairs down? 263 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't say that. 264 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think I actually honestly said that. I looked 265 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: at Alex and I was like, all right, where's the 266 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: easy route, Like, what's the easy path down? He was like, 267 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: you go down the same way you come up, And 268 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: I was just like what. 269 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: And guys, we were like scrambling up this mountain. It 270 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: was like basically little teeny pebbles that are like impossible 271 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: to not just trip on. So you're literally on all fours, 272 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: like I don't know, bear climb up this mountain. And 273 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: then we had to go back down it. And keep 274 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: in mind that we were up there to see the sunset, 275 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the sun set. 276 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: And it was dark. 277 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: It was pitch black. And when it's pitch black in 278 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: the mountains in Colorado, it's pitch black. You can't see 279 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: a thing. So we had our flashlights on our phone. 280 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: We're going down this like pebbly steep mountain and I 281 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: wipe out. 282 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: You're like sliding. 283 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I was literally sliding out on my butt because I 284 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: don't have an acl in my right knee because I 285 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: tore it. You guys know the story. But but basically 286 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: I've torn my ACL twice, never got surgery the second time. 287 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: Now I do everything without an ACL, but my limitations 288 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: are that I can't do any lateral movement. Partner not 289 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: a good pickle buck I can't do anything Like I 290 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: can't ski, I can't do any side to side movement, 291 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: and knocked me out of sports when I was in 292 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: high school. But anyway, so as we're going down this trail, 293 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm like very aware of my surroundings. If I'm on 294 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: a slippery surface, if I'm in a slippery bar, if 295 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm at the beach when you're walking on sand, like, 296 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: I just have to be very aware of like where 297 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm stepping, because if you make the wrong move without 298 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: an ACL, where you can't your body can't do lateral movement, 299 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: your knee will buckle and it's really uncomfortable. And if 300 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: you're somebody that's experienced having your knee buckle, or maybe 301 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: you don't have any sale or you've torny resale, you 302 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: know what this means or feels like, and it's awful. 303 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: But again I've gotten good at knowing what to not 304 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: do to avoid that happening. So of course I'm going 305 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: down this mountain it's like pebbly slippery whatever. I'm on 306 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: all fours, kind of like reverse bear climbing. Like what 307 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: would it be like a crab walk. I was crab 308 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: walking down the mountain and sliding, and then I think. 309 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: That's that's that's the service to the crab calling that 310 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: a crab walk. 311 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: It's a crab walk, right, I'm just trying to like 312 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: it's like the opposite of a barre walk, where you're 313 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: kind of like the opposite way, but your body's inverted. 314 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: But it was a kate walk. I don't know I 315 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: was doing something anyways. I stood up for like one second, 316 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I slip down this mountain. My 317 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: knee buckles out of control. And this was day one 318 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: of our Colorado trip. Mind you, I'm like training for 319 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon. I had long run to 320 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: do that weekend while we were there, which I was 321 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: so excited to do because it was like beautiful in Colorado. 322 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ran like seven miles the next day, okay. 323 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: Training with a little bit of elevation, and then I 324 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: like basically couldn't walk for the rest of the week. 325 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: I got better by the rest of By the end 326 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: of the week, but my knee was just like very 327 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: messed up. But obviously I was in like marathon modes, 328 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: so I was like, oh god, I have to get 329 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: my milagen. And this is like also I was very young, 330 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: so it's kind of like you learn. 331 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: That I could. 332 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: It would have been completely fine if I took two 333 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,119 Speaker 1: weeks to recalibrate and like, you know, heal myself. But regardless, 334 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I was never gonna heal myself because when I slipped 335 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: down that mountain, my fall was so bad that the 336 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: screws from my original ACL surgery that were still in 337 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: my knee of course, had gotten loose in my knee 338 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: and they were basically as I was training for the 339 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: marathon and running, they were floating around my knee somewhere 340 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: and cutting through my cartilage and like some other ligaments 341 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: in my knee that are still there anyways, And I 342 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: would have this crazy sensation when i'd be like running 343 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: through Central Park, where I'd like scream at the top 344 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: of my lungs, and I was like, oh my god. 345 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: And so of course you never in a million years think, oh, 346 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: it's literally medical screws loose in your knee. 347 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: Like I thought. 348 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: It was like every other thing possible. I thought it 349 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: was a Baker's sist, which is very common for people. 350 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: You would swell up, Yeah, yeah, that's a big I 351 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: don't know, I've never seen this baker sist before. 352 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: Baker cists are very common for people that I've had 353 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: acl tarras and even people that I've gotten them repaired 354 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: and not retorn. So anyways, I never obviously would have 355 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: guessed that it was a medical screw. Basically continue training, 356 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: have continue training with this crazy pain, and obviously, like 357 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: the pain wasn't every single time I ran, but it 358 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: was like maybe once a week, and that was because 359 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: the screw was literally like readjusting in my knee that 360 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: I would feel it like flipping or whatever. And yeah, 361 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I ended up doing the New York City Marathon didn't 362 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: feel at all, which I was so happy about. And 363 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: then basically the next week I thought to myself, Oh, 364 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: let me just like go to the doctor and see 365 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: what's up. And I went to the Hospital for Special 366 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: Surgery in the City, which is where I had had 367 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: my surgery when I was how old was I like 368 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: fourteen my first surgery, And they compared my twenty twenty 369 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: one X ray to my X ray when I was 370 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: fourteen years old, and the doctor or the PA calls 371 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: me basically right after they got my results back, and 372 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: he was like, do you have crutches in your apartment? 373 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: And of course who has crutches in their apartment? Nobody? 374 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: Like I was like no, and he was like, okay, 375 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: well you need to come in for emergency surgery. I 376 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: think it was like either the next day or two 377 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: days post that phone call and the doctor like squeezed 378 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: me in because I had these emergency situation where these 379 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 1: screws were floating around in my knee and I ran 380 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon doing that, and yeah, since then, 381 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: I haven't ran a marriage. Actually, I guess I have 382 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: read a marathon since then. And I definitely now deal 383 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: with over usage more than I used to, Like my 384 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: knee gets more swollen if I like run too many miles, 385 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: and that by too many miles, I mean like if 386 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: I do a marathon, I really have to take time off. 387 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was my twenty twenty one marathon experience, 388 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: running with medical screws loosen my knee, cutting through my cartilage. 389 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: He left out the part where I nursed you back to. 390 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: Help Jeremy did nurse me back to help. 391 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: I flew Kate called me. It was like, hey, I'm 392 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: getting surgery, can you come help out? And yeah, sure. 393 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: I don't think you realized what it would entail, but 394 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: I literally couldn't do anything. You were making us food. 395 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I think Brendan was staying with us too, my twin 396 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: for a little. 397 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: It took a community. 398 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: Yeah that was funny, but yeah, it was good. Luckily 399 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: that surgery was nowhere near as extreme as an ACL surgery, 400 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: and within like two weeks I was able to be 401 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: back to move in and groove in and doing the 402 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: peloton a little bit and doing some workouts at the 403 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: gym and slowly getting back into running. But that was 404 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: definitely crazy. I can't believe I ran twenty six twenty 405 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: two miles with that freaking thing in my knee and 406 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: obviously all the training miles and I really trained for 407 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: that marathon that year. 408 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: This was like December twenty twenty one when I got 409 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: the surgery. Was this twenty twenty two? 410 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: No, No, twenty one, I think it's twenty two. 411 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: No, I ran the marathon in twenty one, Okay, I 412 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: think twenty two. With the year that was like, really, 413 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: I think it was. 414 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: The end of twenty twenty one. Oh, I guess it 415 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: was the marathon would have been yeah. 416 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: November, it was the end of twenty twenty one. Yeah. 417 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: We weren't like officially dating it or anything nice. We 418 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: were just friends. You're feeling good post your workout. 419 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm feeling good, and I'm feeling good after this amazing 420 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: season one of Post Run High. 421 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Jeremy has been obviously a huge part of 422 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: the show, both behind the scenes and on the scenes. 423 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: He's in a lot of our videos. You probably see 424 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: him in a lot of my content. But you've been 425 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: it will Post Run High a. It was your idea. 426 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: So you been the biggest advocate for the show. 427 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: I want to tell them the story behind the name. 428 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: Yeah. 429 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: I was in a GTX class at a lifetime and Kate, 430 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: you know, she has become an amazing storyteller, the medium 431 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: for storytelling for a couple of years, was running with 432 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: her phone in her hand with a tripod and getting 433 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: an hour of footage and compressing it into a three 434 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: minute clip. And thought that, you know what, I think 435 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: you you know, you would be great at a long 436 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: form just where you can kind of let your ideas 437 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: flow and not have to edit it after into like 438 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: little digestible bites, and also. 439 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: Show people that I'm the one guiding the conversations. I 440 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of people like the one thing that 441 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: I get triggered about with my running interview show, and 442 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a safe space, this podcast, 443 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: so I could talk about it. But I have so 444 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: many people be like, like I had this girl say 445 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: this to me at our bas Oh my god, my voice. Sorry, 446 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: guys at our bastall, I had somebody say to me. 447 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: They were like, well, we have this update coming up 448 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: that we'll talk about in a little bit. 449 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: Stay tuned to the update. 450 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: But this girl was saying to me, She's like, well, 451 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: you're gonna be fine because like you're not even in 452 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: your videos anyways. And I was like, I am very 453 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: much so in the videos, you know what I mean. 454 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm the one running with them. I'm the 455 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: one guiding the conversation. Like you think these people are 456 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: just like saying stuff without being prompted. You know. It's 457 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: like I go in and I prep for a full interview, 458 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: and yes, like you're seeing a very condensed down version, 459 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: but it's like it takes somebody being with them that 460 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: A is showing up with the right energy to make 461 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: people feel good and feel comfortable opening up to you. 462 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: But B it's like they don't just talk about different 463 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: topics without being prompted, Like I am the one They're 464 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: guiding the conversation the entire way through, and also doing 465 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: it while running, you know, having to make sure my 466 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: energy levels stay up when the guests are getting exhausted, 467 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I got kind of 468 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: triggered by that, cause I was like, well, yes, my 469 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: videos are like storytelling about other people, but it's like 470 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: I'm the one creating the environment for them to tell 471 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: their story and prompting them with the questions to get 472 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: things out of them, you know, and also making them 473 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: feel comfortable, and then also the one crafting the story 474 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: afterwards and taking down taking hours of video footage and 475 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: condens get into three minutes to tell their story in 476 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: a way that makes sense but also pulls the key 477 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: moments from so much footage, you know what I mean. 478 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: So I got a little annoyed by that. I was like, Okay, 479 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: well you. 480 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: Are definitely very much in your podcast, no debate there, Yeah, 481 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: And Kate wanted. She wanted to make sense like you're like, 482 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 2: I want to sure, I want to do a podcast, 483 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: but I only want to do it if it like 484 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: not just going to be another podcast, like obviously there's 485 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: a lot of podcasts out there, and really appreciate you 486 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: guys for being here. It really doesn't mean a lot, 487 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: because yeah, there are a lot of podcasts out there. 488 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: So I think I came up with a couple ideas 489 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: where you're kind of like, eh, I don't know about 490 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: that one. And then I was at the GTX class 491 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: at Lifetime and if you guys are familiar with that 492 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: kind of like berries where half of it's like running 493 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: half of its floor workout. And I just finished a 494 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 2: class and I booked it. I think I was up 495 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: to like seventeen point two world record GTX world record 496 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: on the treadmill. It's definitely not the world record, but 497 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: I was feeling it, yeah, and I just thought like 498 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: it just literally came to my head. I was like, 499 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: I've got it. I'm feeling it right now, like I'm 500 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: feeling the post run high, like I can feel it. 501 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: And then I just texted Kate post run high, and 502 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: she was I think you were just like, yeah, that's it, 503 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: and here we are. Look at the wall, Look at 504 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: the wall, look at the look at the mic, look 505 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 2: up behind your head. 506 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: When Jeremy texted me that, I was like, that is 507 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: so good. And it did make so much sense, because yeah, 508 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: we were toying with a couple other ideas because we 509 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: had this urge to go deeper, and then yeah, that 510 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: was the one that just totally made the most sense 511 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: and just as the most natural fit with our show too, 512 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Like I didn't want to do something that required me 513 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: doing a completely new show. Like this show works so 514 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: well for us because we go for run with our guests, 515 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and then if that guest so happens to have extra time, 516 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: like an hour, hour and a half, we say to them, 517 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, we can use that time to sit down 518 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: for our podcast post run high we're already feeling good. 519 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of like having a drink. You know, don't 520 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: have to have a drink. You just go for your run, 521 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: sit down for the podcast. You've already opened up with 522 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: each other so much and gotten comfortable on the run 523 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: that it makes for a really seamless long form podcast. 524 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: And it just made so much sense because we were 525 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: already hanging out with so many of our guests for 526 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: like a half hour hour post the run anyways, that 527 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: it was just like, well, let's just let's just put 528 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: this on. 529 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: Video and when you listen to the show, you can 530 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: you can feel it. Yeah, I mean everyone you smiley, 531 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: smiley happy like you can you can honestly feel that 532 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: that energy. I think it conveys itself. But yeah, I 533 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 2: think I remember the first few guests because initially there 534 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: was no podcast partner. iHeartRadio is now a part and 535 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: on the show, and guys, we will can announce it 536 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 2: right now or iHeart has picked the show up for 537 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: season two, so the show will go on. But initially 538 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: it was it was very much bootstrapped, and I think 539 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: the first like five episodes that were recorded, there was 540 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: no podcast online, so you couldn't be like, hey, do 541 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: you want to be on my post run high podcast 542 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: because it didn't exist. So people would come for the 543 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: run and then you'd be like, oh, do you want 544 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: to go upstairs? 545 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Like do you want to go podcast for a little bit, 546 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: And people were like, do you have a podcast? 547 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: Do you think that we're working on it? So yeah, 548 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: people would just come upstairs and podcast, and the set 549 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: did not look like it does right now, is very 550 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: much like a makeshift MVP set. And then I think 551 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: posted five episodes and it was enough for iHeartRadio to 552 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: come in and say, all we think this, we think 553 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: this has legs. And here we are a year later 554 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: and trying to figure out how to do season two. 555 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we really sent it. We built this beautiful set. 556 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: Kate built the Kate built the set. I must say 557 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: I was very much I like the MVP set. I 558 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 2: guess if it was up to me, this, the set 559 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: from the first two shows would probably be the set 560 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: it is today. 561 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 3: Really, I mean, it's an audio first Kate. 562 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: Kate's more aesthetic than I am. 563 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: I just like wanted we have. We are fortunate in 564 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: the sense that we Jeremy and I, when we first 565 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: moved to Brooklyn, we both had wanted to have an 566 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: office space that we could go to outside of our apartment. 567 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I think, like if you live in New York or 568 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: in a city that you know has cramped apartment space, 569 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: apartment living, I really think it's healthy for people to 570 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: have a space that they go whether it's a local 571 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: coffee shop, a library, or just a space that you 572 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: can go outside of your home to work from. And 573 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: you and I definitely both shared that value, and we 574 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: found this awesome space in Brooklyn, and it just made 575 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: sense to build a pretty studio. And you know, you've 576 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: used the studio before, we'd have other we've had other 577 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: people use it as well well. But yeah, I'm somebody 578 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: that like I just like things to look nice. You know, you're. 579 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: Asthetic, and I think that that's something that you don't 580 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: well obviously you don't get interviewed a lot, but Kate 581 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: is actually a very talented artist and an oil painter, creative. 582 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: I mean, this wall is limewashed. I don't even I 583 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: didn't even know what that meant. I still don't even 584 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: really know what it means. 585 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Lime wash is popular right now? 586 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 2: Well it looks cool. 587 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So first topic, what we've learned from fifty six 588 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: plus weeks of conversations after the run. So I'm just 589 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: going to run you through quickly some of our stats. Guys, 590 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: But we have interviewed six award winning journalists, Al Roker, 591 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: Dana Prino, Mark Consuelos, Lindsey Davis, Will Reeves, Jason Kelly. 592 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: We've interviewed thirteen founders I'm not going to read them all, 593 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: but to name a few of our highlights, We've interviewed 594 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: Rebecca Minkoff Darman, one of the co founders of Robinhood, 595 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: the co founder of Infatuation, The Real Real founder, Christina Tausi, 596 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: the founder of Milk Bar, Gary Vaynerchuk, and so many more. 597 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,959 Speaker 1: We've interviewed six elite athletes, Tom Aspinall, Charlotte Flair, Tim Tebow, 598 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Paul Rabel, Nicholas Thompson, Sean Johnson. We've interviewed ten musicians, 599 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: and to name a few, one of them being Jordan Davis. 600 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: And if you guys follow my Instagram stories on my 601 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: personal page at Kate Max, then you know I am 602 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: always sharing Jordan Davis' songs and I was actually in 603 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: the top one percent of listeners on my Spotify rap 604 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: for Jordan Davis. We've interviewed Derk S. Bentley, John Party. 605 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: John Party was actually the first and only guests that 606 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: we drank a beer with on camera, which I probably 607 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been drinking a beer, but I had no idea. 608 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: But we're going to get to that. Mike Posner, Xandra Pohl, 609 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: and so many more. And we also completed the Wicked trifecta. 610 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: We interviewed Mary Kate Morrissey who played Alphaba, Ali Trim 611 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: who currently plays Glinda, and we just recently interviewed Jordan Ltz, 612 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: who was on the podcast last week and he is 613 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: the longest running fierro in Broadways Wicked history. 614 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: What a Guy, What a Guy? 615 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: And we built twenty one sets across five states. So 616 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: we obviously have this beautiful set in Brooklyn, but not 617 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: everybody comes to Brooklyn to film the podcast, and we 618 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: often what we love to do is we love to 619 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: go to people, meet them where they are, and pop 620 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: up our podcast there hang out with them and but yeah, 621 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: so that was a lot. We really have, you know, 622 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: done a lot, and there are so many more categories 623 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: of people that we could have, you know, highlighted, but yeah, 624 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: we've done actors, Yeah, others. Troy and Belsario was like 625 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: our biggest episode. Which was so cool to interview her 626 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: because I watched per Little Liars when I was growing up, 627 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: so that was crazy to be sitting across from her. 628 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa. You know a lot of people 629 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: ask me like do you ever get starstruck? And it's 630 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: very rare that I get starstruck. I don't know why. 631 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: I think it's just like we do so many of 632 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: these interviews, like typically on like an average week. Obviously 633 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: we're going into the holidays, so things slow down a 634 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: little bit. But I typically film like anywhere from four 635 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: to six interviews in a week, and we often have 636 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, people on that you see a lot in 637 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the media, whatever the industry that they may be in 638 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: is in, so you kind of just it becomes Obviously, 639 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: I get like so excited for every single guest. I 640 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: get excited for anybody that shows up for me, But 641 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't really get starstruck that often. I think it's because, 642 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: like you realize after doing so many of these that 643 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: people are just people and they just want to be 644 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: treated like a friend. But I do have to say, 645 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Jeremy and I had one person in twenty twenty four 646 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: that we got starstruck by completely twenty twenty four, right 647 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: last year, No, it's this, We'll say on three, who's 648 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: one person we both got startruk by three? 649 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: Both got starstruck by three in twenty twenty four. 650 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, so last year 651 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: it's the only person only we both. 652 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: Got start one. I think it's starstruck by? Yes, what 653 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: did I get starstruck by? J oh Well, that was 654 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: on this running show. I thought you meant the podcast. Yeah, 655 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: I mean that guy. That guy just glistens. I didn't 656 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: get starstruck. I was just like, this guy's literally glistening. 657 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: He came out of his like stretch your car whenever 658 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: we met him on the West Side Highway and that 659 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: if you guys are familiar with the West Side Highway, 660 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: we met him, Oh god, what is it like right 661 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: near Pier forty five, but in the area that you 662 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: can like pull up with a car, So it's kind 663 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: of like there's Peer forty five and then you're running 664 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: towards the Freedom Tower and then there's another peer and 665 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: then there's this like stretch of buildings where you can 666 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: play like soccer in or whatever. And that's where we 667 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: met him, and he got out of his stretcher car 668 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: and Jeremy and I both saw it because we talked 669 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: about it afterwards. But he was like glistening silver, wasn't he. 670 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: I never knew what aura meant until then. 671 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: That's aura. Jason Darilla's got it. 672 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: He was like he's like, do I have Like I 673 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: was like, we're like looking at his face because I 674 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 2: mean we're I was just like, whoa, it's a good 675 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: looking guy. And uh, he's so good. Like he's like, 676 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: do I have pizza in my beard? I was like, 677 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: I was like, are you no, man, you don't have 678 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: anything in your in your beard. You've got something going on, 679 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: but it's not pizza in your beard. 680 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: No. He looked so good and uh, it's not even 681 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: just that he's good looking, it's just he has he's 682 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: got that aura. 683 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: He glows literally, and it's. 684 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Probably because that's somebody that we like, Like I haven't 685 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: done that many people that we've really grown up watching, 686 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, Like he's somebody that we've known about since 687 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: we were little kids, like using our Apple gift cards 688 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: on or Itune gift cards to buy their music. 689 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: Right. 690 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: I would imagine like we were supposed to do an 691 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: interview with Ed Sheeran in twenty twenty four when he 692 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: was doing promo for something, whether do I forget maybe 693 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: a new album or a new song and it ends 694 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: up getting canceled? But I had imagined that probably would 695 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: have been a similar situation. 696 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: Troy and Bella Sarrio was very cool. I think that 697 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: was one of your top podcast episodes. I didn't realize 698 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: and we showed up that she was married to Mike 699 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: from Suits. Yeah, that was someone who I mean, I 700 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: used to love that show when I was a look in. 701 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: I think I think it's had to come back over 702 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: the last few years. Well, that was kind of like 703 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 2: a moment where like, oh, yeah, this is pretty cool. 704 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: We showed up at their house that had been on 705 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: like Architectural Digest the week before, and he just like 706 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: comes out of NANTA office. What you doing, honey. I'm like, 707 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: you married the Mike from Suits. 708 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: Patrick j Adams, Right. 709 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: Patrick j Adams, Great guy, great couple. 710 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: They are such a great couple. I'm such a fan. 711 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: So I have a few things kind of prepped here 712 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: just within the key learnings from the year. What are 713 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: some of the biggest things we have learned from the 714 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: vast range of people that we have interviewed on post 715 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: run high and what would you say or some of 716 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: the threads. 717 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 2: So everybody has their own demons that they've faced, whether 718 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 2: it's mentally, whether it's in their jobs. And yeah, the 719 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: thing that has been consistent and is Also the theme 720 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: of your show, or the common thread is when times 721 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 2: are good, they move, they get out, they get going. 722 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: When times are bad, they move like physically, and that 723 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: helps everybody get through those periods and into greener pastures. 724 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, I like that you said that. I agree. 725 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: I think it's very clear through like every single person 726 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: that we have interviewed that has made something of their 727 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: lives and had success in some sort of way has 728 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: faced highs and lows in different ways. And I actually 729 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: wrote down a few. So I like that you gave 730 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: that example because I wrote that down as well. But 731 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: one example that always comes to mind is Tim Gunn 732 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: talk to me about not being cast in for the 733 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: new season of Project Runway. And he's somebody that obviously 734 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: is a fashion icon. He was the face of Project 735 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Runway for so many years, or one of the faces 736 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: of it with Heidi Klum and he I think we 737 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: might have talked about it off camera, but he was 738 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: really upset that he didn't get recast for the show. 739 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: So that's, you know, part of his story that he 740 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: was very open about. Another person was Paul Rabel. This 741 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: was a dream guest for me, but Paul Rabel is 742 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: like known as one of the best lacrosse players ever. 743 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: He's goaded and I was a lacrosse player growing up. 744 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: I come from a family that like loved lacrosse. My 745 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: brother's played. My parents got really into it when we 746 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: were kids. So to interview him was really cool. And 747 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: he started the PLL, the Professional Lacrosse League, and one 748 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: of the things that he was really open about was 749 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: all of the discouragement and negativity that he faced within 750 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: the lacrosse community. A community that had lifted him up 751 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: for so many years was now putting him down and 752 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 1: saying to him like, you're never going to be able 753 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: to do this, You're never going to be successful, You're 754 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: never going to build another lacrosse league, professional lacrossleag because 755 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: already was one. 756 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 2: What does Paul think he is building his own competitor? 757 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, professional, And sure enough, of course he now has 758 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: and he's been very successful with it. And Paul will 759 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: go on to do so many things that he's going 760 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: to find. 761 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 2: They bought the first league. Yeah that's crazy. 762 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, they acquired it. Okay. Another example Julie Wayne Wright. 763 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: We had her on recently. So Julie, as you guys 764 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: know her is the CEO of The Real Reel or 765 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: you might not know her, but you might have shopped 766 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 1: at The Real Reel before. Julie Wayne Wright was the 767 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: founder and CEO, and she was actually the CEO of 768 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: pets dot com, which is something that I didn't know about. 769 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: But pets dot com was a massive failure during the 770 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: dot com bust, and Julie in her forties was like 771 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: publicly humiliated over what happened to pets dot com because 772 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: she was the CEO, she was the face of the brand, 773 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: and it was like public humiliation, like a lot of 774 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: media sources picked it up, et cetera. Anyways, she obviously 775 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: goes on a little bit of a hiatus aually reinvents 776 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: herself by coming up with the idea for The Real Reel, 777 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: which you guys can watch our podcast or listen to 778 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: our podcast to hear that story behind her founding the 779 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Real Reel. But you know, the Real Reel went on 780 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: to be one of the first female owned companies to 781 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: go public. She obviously made a ton of money, massive success, 782 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: but then she got fired from her role at the 783 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: Real Reel and she is now in another phase of 784 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: reinventing herself. So like it just goes to show that, 785 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: like all of these people, and those are just a 786 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: few examples, like if you listen to every single one 787 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: of our episodes, Like we just interviewed Jordan Litz last week, 788 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: Who's Fierro on Broadway. He's the longest running at Fierro. 789 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Good guy, and Jordan Litz for his whole life was 790 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: an elite level swimmer. He raced in the twenty twelve 791 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: Olympic Trials against Ryan lock Key. Is that the same 792 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: Ryan lock Ryan Lockkeey and Michael Phelps. 793 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: I've ever heard of them. 794 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: Michael Pobs and I actually have the same birthday. You 795 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: and thirty of the shout out. We got to get 796 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: Michael Pelps on the show. 797 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 2: Huge fan of the Pod. I bet, I bet Michael's 798 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: listening right now. Michael, come on, man, friend of the Pod. 799 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: I let when people say that, that'd be sick if 800 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: we had him on. But anyways, Jordan had to go 801 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: through a phase of reinventing himself because obviously in twenty twelve, 802 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: nobody was beaten out Michael Phelps or Ryan as Jordan said, 803 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,919 Speaker 1: they were just built differently, and he reinvented himself. 804 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: No matter how good he got he just wasn't going 805 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 2: to be as good as that he could have. You know, 806 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: he could have been the best guy in ten years before, 807 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: ten years after. He just there was no way he 808 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: was going to be the best guy then. Yeah, like 809 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: he he was. He wasn't right below them, but he 810 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: was close. He was in the Olympic trials, right, But 811 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 2: at a certain point it was just like, yeah, I 812 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 2: gotta do something else. 813 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, So he pivoted from elite level swimming to musical 814 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: theater and then working his butt off to get to 815 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: the top of the top within musical theater and is 816 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: now a principle on Wicked playing Fierro. 817 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 2: Literally, was that Disney World as like a prince, right, 818 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: Like a prince at Disney World. 819 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is also cool, and that's like a way 820 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: that a lot of people get their start, like, but 821 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean not everybody that he was saying, Like his 822 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: wife wasn't didn't want to be an actress, but she 823 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: was like a Disney Persons princess at Disney World. 824 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: You go, you go from being like an Olympic or 825 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: close to Olympic swimmer to a prince at Disney World. 826 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: Like that's just within like a year. That's just a crazy, 827 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 2: crazy pivot and a five thirteen mile er that's crazy. 828 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 1: He's like, I mean that, you guys have to listen 829 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: to this podcast because this guy is just a beast. 830 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: Like everything about him was just so cool. He's such 831 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: a great guy, and he's a girl dad, which we love, 832 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: a girl dad to two girls. I don't know if 833 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: he had his second daughter yet, but like by the 834 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: time this podcast comes out, I'm pretty sure his second 835 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: baby girl will have been born again. Everybody has their 836 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: highs and lows, regardless of the industry, and as Jeremy said, 837 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: movement was one of the common threads that we found 838 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: through all of these people that helped them push through, 839 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: power through, and you know, regain the strength to keep 840 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: on going. 841 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: Keep on keeping on as you keep on keeping eye. 842 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: Okay, on that note, of course, if you're on post 843 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: run high, there's some sort of movement involved in the show. 844 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: Before we sit down for the show, we do some 845 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: sort of movement, whether it's a walk, a run. I'm 846 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: pretty sure we have some rock climbing coming up. I've 847 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 1: done a bike ride with guests. But if you are 848 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: involved in the show, you have to do some sort 849 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: of movement first. So one of the common threads with 850 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: all the guests is definitely that they all exercise and 851 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: move their bodies, and even Al Roker at seventy one 852 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: prioritize this movement, and Tim Gunn prioritizes movement as well 853 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: at seventy two. And I'm pretty sure in the beginning 854 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: of our episode with Tim he talked about working out 855 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: with a trainer or something. I forget the type of 856 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: movement that he was doing, so you guys will have 857 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: to go back to that episode and watch it. But anyways, 858 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: I just loved knowing that people of all ages are 859 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: moving their bodies, and you don't always get to learn 860 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: that about certain people based on their careers. You know. 861 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: Who fencing he was, Tim Gunn was. 862 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: Tim Gunn was fencing. I was gonna say boxing, And. 863 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 2: I definitely got to get Tim Gunn back on on 864 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 2: the pod and do some you and him do some fencing. 865 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: Oh, that'd be crazy. I think one of the common 866 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: threads that I've realized with all of these guests, and 867 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: that I've realized even through the running interview show, is 868 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: that success looks glamorous, but it starts with discipline and 869 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: I think the common thread that you'll see and find 870 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: amongst all successful people is that they've gotten their ten 871 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: thousand hours in. 872 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 2: I agree. I think the saying is what like an 873 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: overnight success after like years of repeated effort. I think 874 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 2: there's some quote there, but that was what everybody in 875 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: all the country artists who did ten year Town, that's 876 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: what they all said. They're like, Yeah, you come to Nashville, 877 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: you work your tailoff, you work bars, you write for 878 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,840 Speaker 2: other people, You put in, you put in your hours, 879 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: and ten years in is when you get your big break. 880 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: And I think one of the cool things that I 881 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: learned through interviewing a lot of the country artists is that, 882 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: And I think this ghest applies to every industry, but 883 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna use the country. One of the country 884 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: music artists as an example, Jordan Dave is my favorite, 885 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: is that when he moved to Nashville, he wanted to 886 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: be a songwriter and he was going to record labels 887 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: couldn't get picked up as a songwriter, and they said 888 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: to him, like all the record labels were like, we're 889 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: not signing anybody that's not an artist right now, Like 890 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: not somebody that can also sing, So he goes to 891 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: Nashville to become a songwriter. Then is told he's never 892 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: gonna make it unless he's a singer, and he's never 893 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: sang before. And he puts the work in and he 894 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: learns how to sing, and now he's Jordan Davis and 895 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: his songs are incredible. He's literally one of my favorite 896 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: country artists ever. I love his voice so much. Turn 897 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: that track d by Dirt. But like, think about that, 898 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: It's like, so, I think the point there is that 899 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: the point there is that, like I think, yeah, the 900 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: point there is that I think it's so important for 901 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: people to One of the common threads I've found through 902 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: all these interviews is that it's so important for people 903 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: well roll with the punches, but also it's like, follow 904 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: your passion, yes, but as you're following that passion and 905 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: chasing the thing that gives you energy, don't be afraid 906 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: to dabble in some of the other things or opportunities 907 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: that might come up along the way, because you never 908 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: know where they're going to lead you. Even when I 909 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,359 Speaker 1: think about myself with the running interview show is that 910 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: I started out doing runs with people, but really my 911 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: running interview show in the early days in March of 912 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, when I just started in April twenty 913 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty three, was I was just running with people and 914 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: vlogging it and like learning why they like to run, 915 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: and learning how many years they lived in New York 916 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: and you know what they do for work, and obviously 917 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: like running five miles, ten miles having fun with them 918 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: along the way. But it wasn't necessarily an interview show. 919 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: And like the interview show came so naturally because I 920 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: had somebody. I had Bobby Flay and Chelsea Cutler reach 921 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: out to me, and Bobby Flay was like, I have 922 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: this cookbook coming out. I would love to come on 923 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: your show. I'm a runner and we can talk about 924 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: you know this the work that I have coming up, 925 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: and I can tell my story and we can also 926 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: cook together and do your running show. You know. So 927 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: like I had no idea. I had no idea that 928 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: this was. 929 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 3: Going to turn into like a modern. 930 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: Running interview show. Like an interview show. 931 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: I remember Jason Derulo, which one of the common themes 932 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 2: I think you see from successful people is their curiosity. 933 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: And I'd say especially successful people who like came out 934 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 2: of nothing, you know, like, there's sure, there's probably a 935 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 2: certain degree of nepotism in you know, the world of celebritism. 936 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: However, celebritism is that a word. 937 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna I'm gonna roll. I'm gonnakeep going, 938 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna roll with it. But there's a lot of 939 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: people who you know, Barbara Corkran, I'll use her as 940 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 2: an example. Derulo, you know, they they didn't you know, 941 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 2: they really made something for themselves, and curiosity is what 942 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 2: enabled that. Derula is also a guy who wrote songs 943 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 2: for people like he got in the right room with people, 944 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 2: he made it happen. And one of the things that 945 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: he said that I thought was super interesting. This wasn't 946 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 2: on the interview. He just said to us because I'm like, yo, man, 947 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: this is crazy, Like you're doing this with with Kate, 948 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: Like thank you so much, Like this this is this 949 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 2: is huge, Like thank you, this is this is an 950 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 2: awesome opportunity for us, for Kate. And he was like, well, 951 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna be honest, this is a great 952 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: opportunity for me. He's like, I flew here with my 953 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: crew to do what I think the morning show or 954 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, one of the one of the talk shows. 955 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, it cost me, you know, like 956 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 2: a million dollars to fly everybody here, to fly my 957 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,399 Speaker 2: entire you know, dancing team, production team. And he was like, 958 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: this is gonna probably do better numbers. He was like, 959 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 2: this is probably going to get more more views, like 960 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 2: more hits than that whole shabbaccle, Like this is the future. 961 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,320 Speaker 2: And I was like, you saying that, like Jason Derulo 962 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: saying that this might actually have like more of an 963 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 2: impact than like the Morning Show or the Today Show 964 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 2: or whatever. It was like, that's crazy. 965 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's so funny because even like that was 966 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: a year ago saying didn't no, yeah, and even and 967 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 1: I think it did. 968 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 2: I think it got a lot you ran with the 969 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 2: security guards. It's pretty funny. 970 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of views. But even it's funny 971 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: that even then you were like, oh my god. But 972 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: now it's like people kind of know that that like 973 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: social media stuff is doing better numbers and podcasts and 974 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: then the typical shows, and we're hearing a lot about 975 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: that and anyway, so it's gonna be really interesting to 976 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: see how the next couple of years unfold Okay, the 977 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: last thing, and then we'll move on to the next topic. 978 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: But I have a few people written down, so we 979 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: just want to go over them. But reinvention is the 980 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: real superpower is another thing that I wrote down as 981 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: a key. Learning from everybody that we've had on in 982 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: season one. A couple examples, Mark Consulos. You guys might 983 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: know him from Kelly and Mark or from what was 984 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: that show that Riverdale or from Riverdale, but Mark Conswalo 985 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: shifted from act ding to hosting, and I'm sure he'll 986 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: do more acting gigs, but right now he's in his 987 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: hosting era and that's a big transition, going from scripted 988 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: television to unscripted. Sean Johnson, we had her on. I 989 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: knew her growing up as the Olympic gymnast. You know, 990 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 1: she's kind of in that golden age, one of the 991 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: golden ages of gymnasts. 992 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 3: Absolute legend, absolute legend. 993 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: And she is currently and has been rebuilding her life 994 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: post gymnastics and figuring out this new identity for herself, 995 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: which is so cool to see and she's done such 996 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: a good job with it. And then the other example 997 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: is Christina Tausi, and she was always somebody that loved 998 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: making desserts, but she a reinvented the dessert industry and 999 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: how we see desserts, which I feel like we don't 1000 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: notice as much now because there's so many crazy desserts 1001 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: out there. But at the time when Milk Bar came out, 1002 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: like her desserts were so different and so unique, and 1003 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: she came from mamufuku making what it would be considered 1004 00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: like she was like a sous chef, right, like a 1005 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: professional chef, so making savory dishes. So she went from 1006 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: savory to making the best suites. And that's on the 1007 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:17,879 Speaker 1: power of reinvention. So topic number two is how our 1008 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: life has shifted in the last year and how it 1009 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: will be shifting in twenty twenty six. This is the 1010 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: topic that I'm super excited to talk about. But we 1011 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: never really talk about what's going on in my life 1012 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: because we spend so much time interviewing other people on 1013 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 1: the show, which is definitely my passion. I love interviewing 1014 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: people and getting to know their stories and guys. My 1015 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: goal is to be an interviewer, so that's why you 1016 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: see a lot of those episodes. But it's always fun 1017 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: to talk about what we're up to and I think 1018 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: our biggest update so far has been that Jeremy and 1019 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: I got married in September of twenty twenty five. Locked 1020 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: it down, and it was a really exciting year. A 1021 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: lot of family events, a lot of seeing friends that 1022 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: we don't get to see that often. I know your 1023 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: friends that live in North Carolina. So we had a 1024 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: really exciting just friends and family type of year, jam 1025 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: packed with events. 1026 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 2: Probably do a entire episode just on a wedding and 1027 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 2: lessons lessons learned there. 1028 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: What would you say, it's the biggest lesson you learned 1029 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: from our wedding. 1030 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 2: Who that's a good one. Let me the biggest lesson. 1031 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: Just whatever pops into your mind, going, it's. 1032 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 2: All go and work out. I think for us that day, 1033 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,479 Speaker 2: Kate was looking at the weather for the month leading 1034 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: up to the wedding, and I must say the reports 1035 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: were not great. And yeah, there was a terrible storm 1036 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 2: that day. It was a very bad flash flood type situation. 1037 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 2: Had some difficulty with the buses getting out. Actually, one 1038 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: of our guests their cars got just destroyed by trees 1039 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 2: and we didn't learn until later. We were just like so, 1040 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,239 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, are they okay? And no, one 1041 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: wanted to like upset us, so we didn't learn until later. 1042 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, they're totaled both their cars. So yeah, the 1043 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: weather was terrible for the most of the day. Kate 1044 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 2: really wanted to do an outdoor ceremony that was super 1045 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: important to her, but we switched it up. We audibled, 1046 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 2: We did an indoor ceremony. It was beautiful, and then 1047 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 2: as soon as the indoor ceremony was over, the clouds 1048 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 2: parted and we went outside and it was beautiful and 1049 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 2: there was an amazing It was like a hot, humid, 1050 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 2: rainy day earlier in the day, and then by the afternoon, 1051 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 2: the cocktail hour, it was a perfect breeze. Yeah, and 1052 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 2: the clouds had lifted. So it's all going be okay. 1053 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's the takeaway. 1054 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's all gonna be okay. I do 1055 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 1: have to say for brides out there that are planning, 1056 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: you know twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven weddings, do 1057 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: choose a venue that has a good enough weather plan 1058 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: that you're happy with, Because I do have to say, 1059 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: we got married at Sleepy Hollow Country Club. 1060 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 3: Awesome venue, beautiful venue. 1061 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 1: My grandparents have been members forever, so it was really 1062 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: special to me. I really wanted to choose a venue 1063 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: that we that didn't feel like a wedding venue to me, 1064 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: Like was a place that I grew up going to, 1065 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: I was familiar with. I had a couple family members 1066 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: that had also gotten married there, so there was a 1067 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: lot of history there. My grandma I think had her 1068 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: debutante there. I could be getting that wrong, but anyways, 1069 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: it was a place just rooted in family history for 1070 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: my family. You also have a lot of connection to 1071 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 1: that area because your dad grew up in that area. 1072 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: But regardless, we got really lucky because nothing had to 1073 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: be outside, Like our weather plan was still beautiful. When 1074 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: we pivoted the ceremony from being outside to being in 1075 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 1: a room inside sleepy hollow, like the room looked like 1076 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: a chapel, it was still gorgeous, and then people got 1077 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: to enjoy the outdoor area without being obstructed by like 1078 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: a ceremony setup. When we ended up getting good weather 1079 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: for the cock till hour and the reception was in 1080 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: a totally closed off tent. So I do have to say, like, 1081 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 1: if you're planning a wedding, like I was the type 1082 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: of person I was like, it's never going to rain 1083 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 1: on my wedding, Like I'm never going to get that unlucky, 1084 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 1: you know. But of course it did rain on our wedding, 1085 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 1: and it was like a mon soon. It was like 1086 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 1: the worst it could have possibly rained. Like Jeremy and 1087 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,919 Speaker 1: I didn't get that many pictures from our wedding because 1088 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,440 Speaker 1: the weather was so bad outside and we wanted to 1089 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: avoid like my dress getting super muddy and just like 1090 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: soaking wet before the ceremony. But yeah, so you need 1091 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 1: a contingency plan that you're comfortable and not only comfortable with, 1092 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: but like you're happy with, you know, because the last 1093 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: thing you want is for it to be your wedding 1094 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 1: day and you to be like, oh, like it just 1095 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: wasn't as beautiful as it could have been. Like I 1096 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: still feel so grateful that our wedding was so beautiful, 1097 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: and it was just it was different than what we expected, 1098 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: but not that much different, you know what I mean. 1099 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: And I actually had shout out Soda med again. But 1100 00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: leading up to the wedding, I was going to Soda 1101 00:52:59,320 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: Method a lot. 1102 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 2: I was too, I was doing the. 1103 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 1: App, yeah, and I was talking to all the girls 1104 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: there all the instructors and the girls that work at 1105 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 1: the front desk knew that I was stressed out about 1106 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: the weather for the wedding. Like I would walk in 1107 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: and they'd be like, well, how's the looking today. 1108 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 2: And I was like a month long. 1109 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a saga, saga, and then I 1110 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: find oh my god, yeah, by the way, just trust 1111 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: trust that they're right if they say there's going to 1112 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: be If one of them says one hundred percent chance 1113 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: of rain, baby, it's raining. But I do have to 1114 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,879 Speaker 1: say so I one of like the last week before 1115 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: the wedding, I had Steph Shrine say it. Who's like 1116 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: one of my favorite instructors at SODO. She just round 1117 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,840 Speaker 1: the New York City marathon actually, and she was a marine, 1118 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: so great girl, and she said to me, she goes, 1119 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,719 Speaker 1: Kate you. She was like, Kate, the hardest thing when 1120 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: it comes to like big life events and things that 1121 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: you're like excited about is managing your expectations. And as 1122 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: soon as she said that to me, my mindset completely shifted, 1123 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: because like, who am I to be? Like why is 1124 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 1: it going to rain on our wedding? You know, like 1125 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: this isn't what we planned for. This isn't what we wanted. 1126 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like you 1127 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 1: have to be able to manage your expectations, you know, 1128 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,439 Speaker 1: And I think that goes for so many things in life. 1129 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: It's like nothing is ever going to go perfectly to 1130 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: plan and you just have to be okay with that. Anyways, 1131 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: it was a really good mindset shift for me. I 1132 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: felt like I was in a therapy session when she 1133 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: said that that isn't and what. 1134 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 2: You need to also do. You need to do a 1135 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 2: mini moon after your wedding. Don't do a big honeymoon. 1136 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: Do that at some point, but just go get in 1137 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,680 Speaker 2: your car, drive somewhere, do something comfortable. 1138 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1139 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 2: I just think the last thing that I wanted to do. Yeah, 1140 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: after that whole lead up and all the logistics and 1141 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 2: planning and effort and then energy that you expect end 1142 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: leading into the big day is then uber over to 1143 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 2: an airport, fly for twenty two hours to the other 1144 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 2: side of the world. Like, just take it easy. And 1145 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 2: then what's great is that you now have that get 1146 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 2: out of jail free card for the next three years, 1147 00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 2: when if you want to go on a three week 1148 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,239 Speaker 2: trip or something two week trip, you can always say 1149 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm on my honeymoon, like I'm not going to respond 1150 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,479 Speaker 2: to emails, I'm not going to respond to texts, let 1151 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 2: me be. But if you'd done that right away, then 1152 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have that anymore. 1153 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: That's true. I mean, I think both are like, both 1154 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: are great. If you're the type of person that's like, 1155 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: I want to do my honeymoon right away, That's what 1156 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: I always imagined for myself. Again, manage your expectations. But 1157 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: also that's fine, Like, I think people have so much 1158 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,400 Speaker 1: fun with that. I've had a lot of cousins and 1159 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: friends and family members. My mom and dad did that, 1160 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: my grandparents did that. But definitely, if you're somebody that's 1161 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: taking a long trip after your wedding, in the beginning 1162 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: of it, allocate I would say at least three to 1163 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 1: four days of just R and R hit a SPA 1164 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: because I was really sick after our wedding. 1165 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah you did, you got burnt out from it? I 1166 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 2: was fine, Yeah, I had like a cold. Think you 1167 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 2: put more more effort into the wedding then than I did. Admittedly, maybe, however, 1168 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 2: New Yorkers or anyone in the Northeast, honestly, any anyone anywhere. 1169 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 2: We have a great recommendation. We planned our mini moon. 1170 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 2: You can also call it a honeymoon whatever, but I'm 1171 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 2: choosing to call it a mini moon. 1172 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: It was so beautiful that I was like, Jeremy, this 1173 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: is our honeymoon. Yeah. 1174 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,720 Speaker 2: We a couple weeks before we got very reasonably priced place. 1175 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 2: All the upstate New York Hudson Valley places were like 1176 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 2: three four times as much. This place was like five 1177 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 2: star resort. Oh my gosh. They spoke different it was. 1178 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,160 Speaker 2: It was in Quebec, so they spoke quebec Qua. They 1179 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 2: spoke a different language, which made it feel made it 1180 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 2: feel more exotical than it really was. Yeah, but six 1181 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 2: hour drive from New York City and you're in a 1182 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 2: French speaking country with like beautiful mountains, and it was 1183 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 2: really I digress. 1184 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: Team Mini Moon Tea Mini Moon and Team Man were Jobe. 1185 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: It was really beautiful. Actually, Laura Geller was the We 1186 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: did a running in Reach episode with her. 1187 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,239 Speaker 3: She's a she's a makeup art. 1188 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: We got to get her on the definitely having her 1189 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 1: on the pad. 1190 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 2: She's so hilarious. 1191 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: She's hilarious. Yeah. She actually sponsored Jeremy's mom, who was 1192 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: running the New York City Marathon this year. If you 1193 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: guys haven't seen that video, go check it out. But 1194 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: she was the one who recommended a mini moon, and 1195 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: I'm really happy that we like went with that plan 1196 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: because you and I would not have been in a 1197 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: place to plan a whole trip. Also after now that 1198 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: that's the point, I really think like mini moon was 1199 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: the move for us, regardless of anything. We were always 1200 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 1: somebody that like wanted to do the trip later. But 1201 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: on that topic, I have two ideas for Meanwhile. 1202 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 2: My grandma got married this year and she went on 1203 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 2: an African safari. So she did not take that advice. 1204 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 2: She very much said the honeymoon Grandma Bee. 1205 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: Jeremy's grandma, Grandma Be is the best. She's eighty six 1206 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: years old. She remarried and she religiously remarried. And yeah, 1207 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: her and her eighty six year old partner husband, they 1208 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: went on a honeymoon to Africa. They went on a. 1209 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 3: Kosher honeymoon, kosher safari. 1210 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: Kosher a safari so cool. She was like sending us 1211 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: pictures of her on an elephant. I was like, what 1212 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:22,560 Speaker 1: is going on? But awesome? I mean I only hope 1213 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: to have that kind of energy when we're that age, 1214 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: she's awesome. On the topic of a honeymoon, I have 1215 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: two ideas that I do want to do when we 1216 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: do decide to do our honeymoon. The first one is 1217 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: go to the south of France and rent a house 1218 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:44,600 Speaker 1: just chill. 1219 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 2: I like that. 1220 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: The second one is an African Safari. 1221 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 2: I think when we have little kids, that'd be fun. 1222 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: And I want to do it with our daughter. 1223 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 2: Our daughter. What you have something to say and now 1224 00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 2: we're saying it. 1225 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So our final update life update is that Jeremy 1226 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: and I are pregnant. 1227 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 2: We're pregnant. 1228 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: We're pregnant, so we're having a baby in the beginning 1229 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,680 Speaker 1: mid June. I don't know when she's going to decide 1230 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 1: to come, but it's a girl. And yeah, we are 1231 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,920 Speaker 1: getting into our we're in our second trimester and everything's 1232 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: been going well, so we. 1233 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: Start jumping around the ultrasound. 1234 00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: The other day I saw her jumping around. That was crazy. 1235 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 1: It's crazy how big they get so. 1236 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,800 Speaker 2: Quickly, crazy how good ultrasounds are. 1237 00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,320 Speaker 1: It's weird that she's with us right now. But yeah, 1238 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: I definitely want to do a honeymoon where we bring 1239 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: our daughter. Would be so fun. 1240 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 2: So that's the personal stuff. 1241 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: So everybody that's listening to this, which you guys are 1242 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: like our family. Like when you think of like our 1243 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: the people that listen to our shows, it's like people 1244 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: watch the running interview show. But if you guys are 1245 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: also people that listen to the podcast. 1246 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 2: If you don't even watch the running show, oh yeah. 1247 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: If you only listen to the podcast, then. 1248 00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 2: You're finding out first. 1249 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,520 Speaker 1: You're finding out for But b go give me some 1250 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: love when you see me doing running interviews with people, 1251 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: because I have to say I've a been a lot 1252 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 1: more delicate with my body. But it's been a lot 1253 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: harder because I'm not a scientist. This is from shat GPTI. 1254 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Because I've been like, why have I been so breathy 1255 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: on these runs with people? And I think your heart 1256 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: just like works a lot harder when you're pregnant, well 1257 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: of you, you're pumping a lot more blood. I don't 1258 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 1: know something like that, but anyways, the runs have definitely 1259 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: been harder. But we've been working closely with our doctor 1260 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: to make sure everything we're doing is healthy and we're 1261 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: not overdoing anything. I think that's the biggest thing with 1262 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,120 Speaker 1: me is I'm not like an over exerciser, and I 1263 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: don't push my body to any extreme, so we are 1264 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,480 Speaker 1: safely running. But it's going to be a fun year 1265 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: because you'll see my body continue to change, my stomach 1266 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: get bigger, and we're going to be doing a running 1267 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 1: interview show. Well, Karen, a baby. 1268 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then after you push the baby out. I 1269 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 2: don't want to commit you to anything over the air. However, 1270 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 2: you have expressed a goal for postpartum. 1271 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: Yes, so I haven't done a marathon since twenty twenty. Well, 1272 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 1: we did the marathon in twenty twenty three, I guess, 1273 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: but that was like unsanctioned marathon. 1274 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 2: You haven't done a marathon sanctioned since you've had screws. 1275 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't done a sanctioned marathon for New York 1276 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: City right since New York City in twenty twenty one. 1277 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: But I do kind of want to do the New 1278 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,560 Speaker 1: York City Marathon in twenty twenty six. And obviously it's 1279 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: going to take time post having the baby to be 1280 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 1: cleared to start running again. I think it takes like 1281 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 1: six to eight weeks, depending on how your birth goes 1282 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and all of that. But regardless, by end of September October, 1283 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: I'll be running, so there's a chance that I do 1284 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon or maybe the Philly Marathon. 1285 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: Who knows, but I would love to do a marathon 1286 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 1: postpartum and just challenge my body to get back after it. 1287 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 2: Show you a baby girl, what's possible? 1288 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So those are our life updates. Let's go into 1289 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: the third and final because I think this segues nicely 1290 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: into it. But what are our goals for season two 1291 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: with you guys? So we alluded to this in the 1292 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: beginning of the podcast that we wanted to talk about this, 1293 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: but I think coming off the fact that I'm pregnant, 1294 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: we're going to be moving into a season of becoming parents. 1295 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 1: My body's changing a lot. I'm asking a lot of 1296 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: questions I want to interview in season two. A lot 1297 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,600 Speaker 1: of health experts, a lot of women's health experts, a 1298 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: lot of doctors, a lot of athletes, maybe some women 1299 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,920 Speaker 1: that have had kids and gone back into being competitive athletes, 1300 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: and just kind of talk about things that I think 1301 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: we as both women and as men, are googling about 1302 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: our bodies. 1303 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 2: Had a girl dad on this past week, Just. 1304 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: Had a girl dad on this week again he is 1305 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: pushing his body to the extreme and he was great 1306 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: to talk about Jordan Ltz. But anyways, so I think 1307 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: in season two are you guys are really going to 1308 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: see and you probably saw the last couple of episodes 1309 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: with Nicholas Thompson and then Jordan Ltz the style of 1310 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: interviewing that we're doing. But moving into season two, we 1311 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: really want to get hyper tailored in the episodes we're 1312 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: sharing and the people that we're having conversations with because 1313 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,400 Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we're getting the most 1314 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: amount of value out of all of the episodes for 1315 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: you guys, Like I want to be learning just as 1316 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 1: much as you guys are learning, and I want us 1317 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: to be, you know, topic talking about topics that can 1318 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: can help us. 1319 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Every every time you tune in the Kate, you know 1320 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,840 Speaker 2: you're going to get something out of it that is 1321 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 2: going to apply to you or help you in some way, 1322 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,040 Speaker 2: shape or form in your own life. That's really it. 1323 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we've obviously been blessed that you know, you've 1324 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 2: been able to do a lot of folk very you know, 1325 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 2: diverse array of folk at different types of talent. But 1326 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 2: really we're you know, trying to always just have that 1327 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,160 Speaker 2: that nugget in the back of our head of like, Okay, 1328 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 2: these are great people, but like how can they actually 1329 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 2: help our listeners, you know, like how can they improve 1330 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 2: folks lives? So that's really the framing that we're taking 1331 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 2: into season two. Also going to be on the lookout 1332 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 2: for more just experts on different topics. Health wellness is 1333 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 2: obviously going to be one of the biggest ones, but 1334 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 2: we're open to your guys' ideas of like what are 1335 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 2: types of things and types of people you want to 1336 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,080 Speaker 2: learn from if you have ideas Kate's dms or I 1337 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 2: would say the post run High podcast Instagram dms are open, 1338 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 2: like we're trying to We're here to serve you, frankly, 1339 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 2: so let us know how you want to be served. 1340 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I couldn't say it better myself. That's exactly 1341 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: what That's it. And with that being said, this is 1342 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: our season one rapped and we are so excited for 1343 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: season two. We'll be back with you guys in just 1344 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 1: a few weeks and coming up we have a lot 1345 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 1: of people, including Jeremy's mom, that we're filming and. 1346 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 3: The premiere I think so, I think so she's. 1347 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: Gonna be so good. Guys. If you don't know Dana, 1348 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 1: go check out some of my New York City marathon posts. 1349 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: She's a psychologist. She specializes in hypnosis. She also specializes 1350 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: in sports performance, and she works with a lot of 1351 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 1: big time athletes. 1352 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 2: Like retired NFL players. She's ran a bunch of marathons. 1353 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 2: She's one of the fastest sixty five year old woman 1354 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 2: in the world. She's also my mommy. 1355 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: She's also Jeremy's mom, and she's the. 1356 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,800 Speaker 2: Best grandmother future grandmother. 1357 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,920 Speaker 1: Yep of our baby girl. And uh, it's gonna be great. 1358 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode 1359 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: with Jeremy and I. It was so fun doing a 1360 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,480 Speaker 1: season one rapped. I can't believe it's been over a 1361 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: year since we started this podcast, and I'm excited for 1362 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 1: us to take a little break over the holidays. As 1363 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 1: you guys know, we're not taking a break from filming 1364 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 1: or recording, but we're gonna be taking a break from posting. 1365 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 1: So keep in mind we will not have an episode 1366 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 1: this coming Monday, but starting back in January, first week 1367 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 1: of January, we will be posting our season two and 1368 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: we have so many great guests and conversations in store 1369 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: for you guys. So I am just so excited to 1370 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,960 Speaker 1: continue this podcasting journey with you guys and continuing to 1371 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 1: grow this show together and learn together. So I hope 1372 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 1: everybody has an incredible holiday season, Happy almost New Year, 1373 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and I will see you in twenty twenty six