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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: exploding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented

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Speaker 1: by Windstuff where flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Thursday,

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty eight m Central Time. And that can mean

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Speaker 1: only one thing. Go it's time or your favorite program? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I said program favorite program of the week, Hanging with

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Speaker 1: the Boys. There's a live look at Tostitos Championship Plaza

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Speaker 1: out front of Ford Center. At the start, it is

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Speaker 1: a brisk forty three degrees. It feels like thirty eight degrees.

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Speaker 1: High today is going to be forty one. The low

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Speaker 1: tonight is gonna be thirty five. And that ain't the

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Speaker 1: only thing that's cold, because my co hosts are cold too.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Holly, Nate new Kurt Daniels, How you fellas do it?

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Speaker 1: It's been a week. How's it going, y'all? I'm good

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Speaker 1: A right, So I got to start the show off.

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Speaker 1: I got both teams wrong that are going to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I had Green Bay and Buffalo. Did anybody

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Speaker 1: get it right? I don't know. I had packers in chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I think the rest of us all had the packers

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Speaker 1: in chief I think we all have packers in chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Nobody had it. And then poor old Connor McGregor just

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Speaker 1: got beat down this weekend. I mean, he got man

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Speaker 1: handled by what happened on he kicked. What happened He

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Speaker 1: kicked him in the calf and apparently wound up breaking

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Speaker 1: his breaking his leg. But he kicked. There's a there's

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Speaker 1: a nerve in your calf that's really close to the

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Speaker 1: surface of your skin, and he his game plan was

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Speaker 1: to attack his legs. He kicked him in the calf.

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Speaker 1: He he didn't start checking his kicks until it was

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Speaker 1: too late, and that nerve acted up on him and

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Speaker 1: basically his leg was dead by the second round and

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Speaker 1: he got knocked out because he couldn't couldn't put weight

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Speaker 1: on his legs. But it was it was a good

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Speaker 1: fight card. It was a good fight card. But he man,

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Speaker 1: he's like and he like, he's like four and four

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Speaker 1: or something. Now, I mean, is this so the end

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Speaker 1: of couldn't I mean, he looked really good at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of the fight until his legs got taken out

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Speaker 1: out from under him, and then he did not his

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Speaker 1: legs out, you know what, out quick quickly. He's one

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Speaker 1: of those guys though love him or hate him, and

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Speaker 1: he's like Tiger Woods. The game is better when he's

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Speaker 1: in it. So I hope, I hope he gets it

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Speaker 1: back on track because it's the sport is so much

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Speaker 1: more fun to watch when he's in it. But enough

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Speaker 1: of that Mma stuff. We got football to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Man so much better as Nate. You look cozy, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I You know, I've been to North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. I've been to uh Florida twice. I've been

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Speaker 1: on Tennessee. My wife got mad, you know, at me

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Speaker 1: the other day so much. You really was secere about

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Speaker 1: how you was gonna travel. So now me and herd

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Speaker 1: an impass right now. I need a mediator because I'm

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Speaker 1: to take off mix. I need a mediator because I'm gone.

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Speaker 1: Where are you going next week? Who cares? Who? Oh? Jesse, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: what have you been up to this last week? I've

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Speaker 1: been working like a dog man. Yeah, I got all

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Speaker 1: these basketb wearing like in the heart of the basketball season.

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Speaker 1: So I got middle school, elementary, high school, college games

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Speaker 1: to rent fifteenth passenger vans, which there aren't for some reason,

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Speaker 1: there aren't any fifteen passenger vans in Dallas Fort Worth

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Speaker 1: so that's been my life from the last week. I've

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Speaker 1: just been at the varsity team Territor though. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: as your basketball players, have the legs been going out

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter? They actually they have. Hey, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: they really You got a guy on this show that

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Speaker 1: that loves to drive. I mean, Nate, you should get

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Speaker 1: your CDL and start aside hust There you go. But

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Speaker 1: The country is so much big, I just had to visualize.

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Speaker 1: it all right. You know what is going on this week?

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl is scheduled. That Senior Bowl is going on

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Speaker 1: off season, no scouting combine, no visits, and more limited contact.

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Speaker 1: Is that a big deal for the Senior Bowl? I

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Speaker 1: of a deal, Nate, you've been Is that gonna hinder

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Speaker 1: a team as it is? Yes, it is, especially for

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Speaker 1: now you know, you know battles that have been there,

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Speaker 1: I guess the advantage is send you said it, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: Send the right guys, Send the scouts, Let the coaches,

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Speaker 1: let especially new defensive coordinator and past coordinator. Let these

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Speaker 1: McClay and his guys what we're looking for, and let

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Not what do the coach think?

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Speaker 1: run drills, do it through video. How much value is

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Speaker 1: looking at in person when you see them? And and

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Speaker 1: Nate you can speak to that because you've been to

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Speaker 1: But Jesse from a workout standpoint, yeah, I've been in

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Speaker 1: They're going to be about eighteen quarterbacks with new teams.

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Speaker 1: than Dak Prescott. So even to entertain the thought, Now,

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Speaker 1: let's just entertain the thought of a guy like Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: because I put him at the top of this list

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Speaker 1: with years as far as his age, his ability. To

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Speaker 1: get a guy like Deshaun Watson, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: give up maybe two first rounders this year is the

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Speaker 1: next year's maybe more. But let's just say two first rounders,

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Speaker 1: So you give away two huge assets. Then you have

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Speaker 1: to turn around and work on well, how long is

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Speaker 1: it going to take for Deshaun to learn this offense,

436
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Speaker 1: to become cohesive and have the rhythm with these players offensively. Oh,

437
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Speaker 1: by the way, we gave away our first round pick,

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Speaker 1: so we don't have a first round pick, so we

439
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Speaker 1: gotta probably try to either muster up some other picks

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Speaker 1: to try to move back in the first round. So

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Speaker 1: we probably would only have a first round pick or

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Speaker 1: a bunch of low level draft picks, which means we

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Speaker 1: don't get much of an impactful player in this year's

444
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Speaker 1: driving maybe next year's drift. So I still haven't addressed

445
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Speaker 1: my defensive situation right, So now the Shaun Watson goes

446
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Speaker 1: from having the same situation he had in Houston slightly

447
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Speaker 1: better here because he has more better offensive weapons. But

448
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Speaker 1: again you'll find yourself losing those games forty five to forty.

449
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Speaker 1: And then the most important thing is Deshaun Watson is

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Speaker 1: in that group who just signed a deal, and while

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Speaker 1: his was an extension for us, it'll just be a

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Speaker 1: new four year deal for one hundred and fifty eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars, so somewhere around forty million dollars again, So

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Speaker 1: in essence, you're still gonna have to pay the four

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Speaker 1: years forty million dollars a year. So why give up

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Speaker 1: all of those assets. Why try to create new continuity

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Speaker 1: when you can just swallow your pride except that you

458
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Speaker 1: lost this battle that you've been trying to do for

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Paid back to forty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year, and let's get this train moving in

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Speaker 1: the direction to win. There is no other options on

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Speaker 1: the table. Even if you try to go get Aaron

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers at his age, it's going to take a

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Speaker 1: haul to go get him, and you're gonna find yourself

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Speaker 1: in a situation where you're gonna you're gonna actually give

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Speaker 1: up more than you can actually replace. And Aaron Rodgers

467
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Speaker 1: is a guy who doesn't have as many as years

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Speaker 1: left in his football life, then Dak Prescott does so

469
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Speaker 1: any same thing with Matthew Stafford. These are guys who

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Speaker 1: maybe have good two three years at the top of

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Speaker 1: their at the top of their at the top of

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Speaker 1: their game. Dak has at least another eight eight years

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Speaker 1: where he's at the top of his game, before he

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Speaker 1: gets that thirty three thirty two, thirty three thirty four

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Speaker 1: year old Mark. I just I don't understand this situation

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing. It really blows my mind, and

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Speaker 1: my mind boggle at the decision to wait. To everyone's point,

478
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Speaker 1: you've had two years. The numbers are only going to

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Speaker 1: get worse for you, and God forbid if Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: or Lamar Jackson jump in front of you and get

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Speaker 1: signed before Dak does. Now your numbers are really solidified,

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Speaker 1: and it may cost you an even more than what

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Speaker 1: it originally cost you at the forty million dollars. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're trying to prove. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what their plan is, but any plan outside of

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Speaker 1: signing Dak Prescott or getting Patrick Mahomes is a plan

487
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Speaker 1: that is going to fail them. And we're going to

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Speaker 1: find ourselves right back in this situation and the next

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Speaker 1: year or two of looking for a quarterback and probably

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Speaker 1: looking for another head coach. Hmm, Wow, they got anything

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Speaker 1: on that that you know you're talking about? You know

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Speaker 1: you have to wonder. I mean, as I was looking

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Speaker 1: through this, they've already got seven players on their roster.

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Speaker 1: Those seven makeup fifty seven percent of this pary cap.

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Speaker 1: When you're talking to Marcus Laurance, Samari Cooper, Zach Martin,

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Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, zeke Lyle Collins, Jalen Smith, and you look

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Speaker 1: at those seven and you wonder how many of those

498
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Speaker 1: were mistakes. You know, a lot of those guys have

499
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Speaker 1: just mentioned aren't earning their money, and so in some

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Speaker 1: ways the Cowboys have put the Cells in a position

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Speaker 1: where they can't afford Dak, or maybe they're having trouble

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Speaker 1: justifying paying Dack this much money because Dad's going to

503
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Speaker 1: be what fifteen percent or so of the salary cab

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Speaker 1: just on his own, if not more. But they put

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Speaker 1: the Cells in such a bad position with these other

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Speaker 1: deals and now they can't really focus on getting Dack done.

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Speaker 1: Plus then having anything, you know, you'd have sixty sent

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Speaker 1: of your roster taken up with eight players and you're

509
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Speaker 1: trying to build a championship team and a defense with

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Speaker 1: very little to work with. It seems like again the

511
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Speaker 1: Cowboys gambled and they lost. And all the name that

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Speaker 1: you name that make up the seven percent of the

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Speaker 1: salary cap, none of them are more important than Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: So I'm to the point where we know that this

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Speaker 1: is a quarterback driven league, right the teams who have

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks majority of the time win the most

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Speaker 1: games and find themselves in the position. You know, now

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Speaker 1: you need other factors involved, but the teams who have

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks usually find themselves in the AFC Championship

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Speaker 1: Game or NFC Championship Game and Super Bowls. None of

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Speaker 1: the players that you name were better than Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: or more important than Dak Prescott. And there are a

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Speaker 1: couple that you know. I go back to the Zeke signing,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not a post I'm not a

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Speaker 1: part of the don't sign running backs game. But Zeke

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be the finishing pieces for the Tony

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Speaker 1: Romo era. He was supposed to be that last piece

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Speaker 1: that live solid running game for Tony Romo. And it

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Speaker 1: didn't work out because Tony got hurt. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: dakamerge and so you got caught up in that situation

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Speaker 1: with him, and you didn't quite know what Dak was

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Speaker 1: going to be. I thought, if someone could could have

533
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Speaker 1: looked at the crystal ball and said Dak was going

534
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Speaker 1: to be what he was now they might have let

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Speaker 1: Zeke walk. Oh you want to hold out, fine, hold out,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to pay you anything. But because they

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Speaker 1: didn't know and Dak could he carry a football team,

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Speaker 1: then they had to trust that Zeke would be able

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Speaker 1: to carry this football team, and early on in his

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Speaker 1: career he definitely did. But Dak has emerged as that guy.

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Speaker 1: So as as an ownership group, now you have to

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Speaker 1: go on there and say, what do we have to

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Speaker 1: do to free up some of this money? And I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy the salary cap situation stuff that we

545
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: always talk about because we know and we've seen it

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Speaker 1: time after time after time again, the Cowboys being able

547
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: to move these contracts, make money available, make guarantees them

548
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: hit switches. A lot of these players have the switches

549
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Speaker 1: in their contract when they could hit it, hit a number,

550
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Speaker 1: and now that becomes bonus money or whatever it maybe.

551
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: And now you're able to free up some more cash

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Speaker 1: to pay a guy like Dak Prescott. So I'm never

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm never. I'm never moved by Well, the callery cap

554
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: has this and we don't know what the salary cap

555
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: is going to be this upcoming season. The Cowboys always

556
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: find a way. They always make a way that they're

557
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: doing themselves in this team a disservice because if I'm Dak.

558
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: If I'm Dak, I don't know when he's clear to

559
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: come back for workouts and stuff like that, but I'm

560
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: not coming back to this. I'm not coming back to

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Speaker 1: this building and being a part of any of your

562
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: off season workouts until I get the contract that I've

563
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Speaker 1: been asking for for the last two years. Kind of

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Speaker 1: how do you think this is? How do you think

565
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: this is affecting not just the current players on the roster,

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Speaker 1: but maybe any potential free agents. Is this just a

567
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Speaker 1: domino effect with everybody? Nate, No, Yeah, he was talking

568
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: to you, just he was talking about whoever, whoever. I'm

569
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Speaker 1: talking to the room here, or maybe I'm just talking

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Speaker 1: to this brick wall in front of me. Not sure.

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00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: I just feel at any moment they're gonna say on

572
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Speaker 1: our flagship station, Dak has been signed. Because anything else

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go into ABYSS. This team is gonna be

574
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Speaker 1: through and so we can sit here and play all

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Speaker 1: day long. What Jesse said, if we go out and

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Speaker 1: get a quarterback, now, you're gonna to make a mad

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Speaker 1: scramble in free agency to go out and get some

578
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: dominant defensive players to turn this thing around. Are you

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Speaker 1: willing to do it? In any quarterback sign here that's

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Speaker 1: worth is salt. Yeah, you may get it for twenty

581
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Speaker 1: five thirty meal, but you're going to take all that

582
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Speaker 1: extra money and place it until some free agent. We

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Speaker 1: haven't shown that we want to do that. So if

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Speaker 1: Dak doesn't sign, who is the quarterback? A guy that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be here two years, then we go into a

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Speaker 1: one in sixteen, I mean a one in fifteen, three

587
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: and thirteen. Now we're sitting here again saying, wow, okay,

588
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: this is how we build a team and pre that

589
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Speaker 1: we get another quarterback. To me, that's scary, man. When

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Speaker 1: you brought it up and I'm like, wow, man, we

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: we we really here? Are we really here? Nah? Man?

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Speaker 1: It will make no sense. I hope not. I hope not.

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Speaker 1: All right, fellas, I was fortunate enough yesterday to talk

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Speaker 1: to Jamie O. Pelt, which is up for a nomination

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Speaker 1: for Fords Hall of Fame Fans, which they've they've started

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Speaker 1: this about. I think this is the third year where

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Speaker 1: a fan actually gets elected into the Hall of Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame in Canton. Jamie is a finalist.

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Speaker 1: There are I believe six finalists. He's for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: There's one for the Cardinals, one for the Steelers, one

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Speaker 1: for the Browns, one for the Ravens, and one other team.

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Speaker 1: But I was able to catch up with him yesterday

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Speaker 1: day did a little bit of an interview that Chris

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Speaker 1: is gonna air here in a second talking about how

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Speaker 1: he found out about the nomination, how they let him

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Speaker 1: know why he's deserving of this pretty cool piece. It's

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00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: about six minutes long. So if you need to go

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Speaker 1: to the restroom, if you need to go get a donut,

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Speaker 1: whatever you need to do, don't do it right now.

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Speaker 1: Unless you're a co host on the show. Then you

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Speaker 1: have probably the next ten minutes to go do something

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Speaker 1: and relax. So everybody else stay tuned. Chris is going

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Speaker 1: to roll the interview and then we'll be back in

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Speaker 1: the next segment. After that, there's a lot to get

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Speaker 1: to In the last segment, you don't want to go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what direction we're gonna go in because

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00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: there's so much we can talk free agents, we can

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Speaker 1: talk about, there's a lot of anniversaries that are going

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Speaker 1: on today. There's a former Cowboys player that's deciding to

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Speaker 1: call it quits. We don't know where we're gonna go,

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Speaker 1: but watch this, enjoy it, and we'll be back in

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Speaker 1: the third segment after the interview. Welcome to a very

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Speaker 1: special sub segment of Hanging with the Boys today. I

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00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: am Shannon Gross, host of Hanging with the Boys, along

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Speaker 1: with Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and I have

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Speaker 1: a very special guest that is going to join me

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Speaker 1: right now. It is Jamie Opelt. He is the Ford

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fans nominee for the Dallas Cowboys. The Ford

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fans was created in partnership with Ford and

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Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and they search for

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Speaker 1: the most passionate NFL super fans across the country that

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Speaker 1: are also doing heroic work within the community. Jamie is

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Speaker 1: one of six nominees left. One of these fans will

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Speaker 1: be nominated and inducted into the Ford Hall of Fans

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Speaker 1: in Canton, Ohio. He's representing the Cowboys. There's a representative

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Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, the Ravens, the Browns, the Railers, Raiders,

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Speaker 1: and the Steelers. So Jamie, Welcome to the show. First off,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing. Hey, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me. Shannon, It's great to be here. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys having me absolutely well. Tell us a little bit

641
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: about how this came about. How did you become our nominee?

642
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: So back in October it started with me. Actually, I

643
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: got to be completely honest with you. I'd never heard

644
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: of the Ford Hall of Fans and it's been going

645
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: on for three years, this is the third year. And

646
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: was watching TV and actually saw an advertisement for you

647
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: submitting your name or submitting a nominee for someone else,

648
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: and I had about a year ago, I completed my

649
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: hot ride, I've done some other things. I've got a

650
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: media room, and I've got a shop that's all done

651
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: in Cowboys. I've been a huge Cowboys fan since I

652
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: was about seven years old. And and just on the

653
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: way m I kind of presented the information that I

654
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: had through through the form that they had online and

655
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: then honestly forgot about it. And then about four weeks

656
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: later actually got my first contact by them and they

657
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: said that they'd like to move forward. They said that

658
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: there's some documents that they needed to sign as far

659
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: as background checks in those types of things, and then

660
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: from that point on it progressed that my next conversation

661
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: with them was actually them telling me that, hey, we're

662
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: down to about two hundred nominees, were very interested in you.

663
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: We'd like to come out and send a film crew

664
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Speaker 1: just to do a kind of a highlight reel of

665
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: everything that you have as a fan into a small interview. Well,

666
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: so I said that was fine. That was going to

667
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: be the week after Thanksgiving, and they showed up to

668
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: do this, and lo and behold, in the middle of

669
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Speaker 1: this interview that I thought that they were doing many

670
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: of with other cowboy fans, a knock came on the door,

671
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: and that happened to be the manster Randy White, with

672
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: the vice president of the Hall of Fame, the Professional

673
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame, George Varies, and they Randy White

674
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: came in and proceeded to announced that I was one

675
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Speaker 1: of six nominees for this year's for Hall of Fans.

676
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: That in itself is pretty cool. Randy White coming to

677
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: your house and knocking on your door. That's that was

678
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: my childhood football hero. He was on many posters in

679
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: my bedroom, uh on the walls there so that was

680
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: pretty cool. So what made you stand out as as

681
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: our nominee? What? What? What do you think calls forward

682
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: to to pick you? What? Are you just a crazy

683
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: over the top fan or what? Well? So, I you know,

684
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: I think you have to be a Cowboys fan nowadays

685
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: you have to be a little bit crazy. But I

686
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: think the fact that I followed them, uh, you know

687
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: since I was seven years old. Uh, I remember some

688
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: good times. I remember some bad times. You know. I've

689
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: told the story that I remember when a local store

690
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: had to step in and actually buy tickets so that

691
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: we would be able to watch the game on Sundays.

692
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: And uh, and then there were also times to where

693
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: there was talk about there not being any Cowboys. So

694
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: when we talk about having bad seasons, I've seen a

695
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: couple of those. And and and the seasons like we just

696
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: went through, you know, h it didn't turn out the

697
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: way we wanted it too. But uh but it's I'll

698
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: take it. I'll take it, and you have so I

699
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: had it go ahead. I'm sorry thought you were three.

700
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Speaker 1: Uh So uh with that though, I've done you know,

701
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: throughout the year. I'm a very visual person. So anytime

702
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: I start a project, I have to have something that

703
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: guides me through it. And so my wife and I

704
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: about ten years ago, we actually did a media room

705
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: and I did it all in Cowboys memorabilia. I have

706
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: several signed photographs that uh, that I've gotten from Cowboys.

707
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: I also have some life size stainless steel um plates

708
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: that are in the media room actually blocking the light

709
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: on the windows behind my chairs, uh, to darken the

710
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: room that I had custom made and actually put up

711
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: in there too, dark in the room. And those are

712
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: of the triplets Eightman, Irving and Smith and uh, you

713
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: know they're doing the champion strolls. So that's kind of

714
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: cool sense there. And then I had a Randy White

715
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: back when I was sixteen years old. I actually had

716
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet Randy White out of the stock

717
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: showing rodeo in Fort Worth and I was with my

718
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: uncle and the only thing I had for Randy to

719
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Speaker 1: sign was the business card the back of the business

720
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: card of my uncle, and I had him sign that

721
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: and I still had that and actually was able to

722
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 1: show Randy that when he came out. But then also,

723
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Speaker 1: I guess my biggest commitment as a fan is three

724
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: years ago I started building a nineteen thirty three Factory

725
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: five Racing Ford Replica hot rod. And I decided way

726
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: before I even started building it, that this was going

727
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: to be a cowboy themed vehicle. And it has a

728
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: eight foot representation of the Cowboys Star. It's not the

729
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: full star, but it's a representation of the star along

730
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: the side of it. It is painted on. It's not

731
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: a decal that I get to take off when they

732
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: win or lose, or put on when they win and

733
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: take off and they lose. And last year was the

734
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: first year I had it completed, actually put seventy five

735
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: hundred miles on the vehicle, and so that star was

736
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I was supporting those colors, the silver, the blue, and

737
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: the white every mile of the way, no matter where

738
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: I went in that car. So it wasn't just on

739
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: game day, it wasn't just after a win, it was

740
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: winter loss. It was on season or off season. And

741
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: I actually I actually drove it today to work. So

742
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: that's awesome to get more people that wave at you,

743
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: or more people that all catch you and flip you

744
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: off when you're in that car, so I get I

745
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: actually do get more people that wave at meet. I

746
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: get a few of the others, and I've actually had

747
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: it to where somebody's actually pulled in front of me

748
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: and turned on their wiper fluid. It's a hard time.

749
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: It's a hard top, but I can remove the top

750
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: and they've hit their wiper fluid. So I don't know

751
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: if that was a Philly fan. Oh man, that is awesome. Well, Jamie,

752
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. If you want to, let's get Jamie.

753
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: Let's get Jamie into the Ford Hall of Fans. You

754
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: can do that by going to Ford Hall of Fans

755
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Speaker 1: dot com. That's Ford Hall of Fans dot com. Go

756
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Speaker 1: right now while you're listening to the show. Vote for Jamie.

757
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: You have until February of the first Go vote for

758
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: in multiple times. Let's get him in. We don't want

759
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: a Steelers fan in there. Let's get the cowboys in there.

760
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: Let's get more cowboys in the Hall of Fame. We

761
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: know they need to be more in there than they're

762
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: already are. Let's start with Jamie. Jamie, appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 1: Once you get in, we'll have to get you back

764
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: on the show to talk about your experience up in

765
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: Ken Perfect. Thank you. I thank you guys for having

766
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Speaker 1: me on. I greatly appreciate it, and we need a

767
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan representing in there. So let's let's do what

768
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: we can to make that happen. All right, let's do it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Thanks again, Jamie, and we'll be right back on the

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Speaker 1: are we going to talk about? You know what? First off,

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Speaker 1: let's wish the Dallas Cowboys a happy birthday today. In

816
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty they were founded as a football team. Kurt,

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Speaker 1: give us a little history lesson real quick on that,

818
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Speaker 1: a little history lesson on the Dallas Cowboys. No, just

819
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: on the on the founding day. I know you you

820
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Speaker 1: sent us some notes on it, and Jonathan has some

821
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Speaker 1: memorabil Yeah, tell us how it happened or how they

822
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: applied or what the official day is it. You need

823
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Speaker 1: to watch our documentary we did this past year about

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00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: the foundation founding of the of the Cowboys, but it

825
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: was a long process. Clint Murchkison Junior was the guy

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Speaker 1: that kind of all brought it together, and it's a

827
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: it's a pretty interesting story that kind of the what

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Speaker 1: they went through to get everybody's votes and the wheeling

829
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Speaker 1: and dealing and that sort of thing. It's a fun story.

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Speaker 1: But it finally all came to pass. Here owners in

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Speaker 1: Miami voted on it this time nineteen sixty. I guess, well, yeah,

832
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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty and yeah, here we are all right. Well,

833
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Speaker 1: a happy birthday America's team. Also another another big day,

834
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Speaker 1: I guess. Yesterday the news came out that Jason Witton,

835
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: after one year away from the Cowboys, is going to

836
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Speaker 1: retire and he's expected, I believe, to come back and

837
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: sign a one day contract at some point and retire.

838
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Speaker 1: A cowboy. Got a question about that in a second.

839
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Speaker 1: And then there's another anniversary. This is the twenty fifth

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Speaker 1: anniversary of Super Bowl thirty that Nate Newton played in. Nate,

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Speaker 1: you got any fond memories super Bowl thirty? I know

842
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: you played in so many of them and you won

843
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: so many, but did anything stand out about thirty to you? Yes,

844
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Speaker 1: we won. Do you still have all your Super Bowl rings? Oh? Yeah,

845
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Speaker 1: I said, now one of them. My baby got them all. Baby.

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Speaker 1: Do y'all get a replica trophy if you if you, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got them somewhere. My ex wife got him, some

848
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Speaker 1: kids got him, somebody got him. But I knew one thing.

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Speaker 1: I got the rings they can have. I've always I've

850
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Speaker 1: always heard that that Super Bowl thirty win, it was

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00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: more relief than than joy after all you guys had

852
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: been through. Is that true? Yeah? It was? I mean yeah,

853
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: Well but you know what, man, I'm gonna tell you what. Man, Wow,

854
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: if those things were, Man, you have to be a

855
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: part of that. Brother. Well, it don't matter whether you

856
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: see this is the plus about mister Jones and his family.

857
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: It don't matter whether you're a player or whether you

858
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: work for the Cowboys as we are doing at this point.

859
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: In those days when we won those games, man, everybody

860
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: was was was truly a part of that family. Man.

861
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,479
Speaker 1: I mean when he threw the Super Bowl parties, even

862
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: though we had parties of individual parties, we all walked

863
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: in hit to his party to show that respect and

864
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: that love for what he had put together. Man, And

865
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: it was it's just tremendous, like just tremendous, man, and

866
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: not in the content that we had that we gave

867
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: the world as a team. That week was all can

868
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: you imagine can you imagine from limos from papados, from

869
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: going to clubs that were supposed to go to it

870
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: that was all sanctioned to Magic Johnson, bodyguard be eating

871
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: up Darrel Talley. So just so many great things out

872
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Devellas oh Man. Question about let's get it, you know what,

873
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: Let's do that next week leading up to the super Bowl.

874
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: Let's have super Bowl talk with Nate. Let's think of

875
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: some questions for next week and we'll talk about super Bowls.

876
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: Nate like that. I want to hear more about the

877
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff, the getting beat up than I

878
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: do on the on the on field stuff. Yeh. Jason Man,

879
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: Darren Talley knows Jason went retiring. Finally, Kurt has a

880
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: Kurt has a great question. Do you guys think, as

881
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: as former players, guys that go spend a year or

882
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: two at the at the end of their career somewhere

883
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: else play one year for the guys that don't win

884
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: a championship, do you think they regret that decision? And

885
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: wish that they would have just stayed put because most

886
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: of those guys, now you know, the higher profile guys,

887
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: go back and sign a one day contract and retire

888
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: with the team they spent most of their years with.

889
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: Do you think that they they regret that or did

890
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: they value one more shot at at going for a title?

891
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: They got a value it, man, That's what I think.

892
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: What's the guy? The center we had here went to

893
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens. It was yeah, man, you shoot man, you

894
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: love that. Man, I mean, you've struggled here with the Cowboys,

895
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: and we did kind of kick and gard to the side.

896
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't they did, but they invited, but they invited

897
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: them back. Ray Lewis and all these guys invited them,

898
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: you know, to this situation. So I mean, you you

899
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: want a shot. You know, you play this game, and

900
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: you have loyalties at your team that you played the

901
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: most seasons with, especially when they drafted you and brought

902
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: you up from a babe. But man, you you know, man, listen,

903
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: some guys, no, then some guys go out for that

904
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: money for that one. I'm about to say that they

905
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: gave this with four million dollars. He wasn't getting four

906
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: billion dollars from nowhere else four or five billion dollars.

907
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't no way in the hell. The Las Vegas

908
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: Raiders were going to the super Bowl this year. So

909
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was chasing. The Las Vegas started,

910
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: they had a shot at getting to the to the

911
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: second they playoffs, they had a shot, but getting in

912
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs, as long as King

913
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: Mahomes was in the AFC, ain't have no shot. And

914
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: getting into the second round of the playoffs, they adn't

915
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: have a shot. As long as King Mahomes was in

916
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: the building, they didn't have they have a shot at

917
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: getting to the super Bowl. He went to Oakland, not

918
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: to get to the second round of the playoffs. He

919
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: went to Oakland to try to chase a ring. Now,

920
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what you said, not only as King Mahomes. Yeah,

921
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: come on, come on, if we're realist on this, right,

922
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. He couldn't be here when

923
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: he went over there, Like second round. Maybe if we

924
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: play lights out, second round. Maybe if we play lights out,

925
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: that's that's a thing you could be thinking. Yeah, I

926
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: think for fans, fans are always like you know, you

927
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: take him at Smith playing in Arizona for a couple

928
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: of years, or Tony Dorsett finished it and didn't real

929
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: I think fans are disappointed to see that, but I

930
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: guess for players, it's just you want to see if

931
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: there's any gasol. Fans ain't betting the fandom saying fan, man,

932
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: that was really disappointed. But did you have an extra

933
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: couple of millions laying around this guy? You know a

934
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: lot of those guys, it's not like they needed the money,

935
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,919
Speaker 1: but you know it's you know, to your point, Kurt,

936
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: to your point, like a lot of times when when

937
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: you talk about guys do want to, athletes are always

938
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: the last ones to find out that you just don't

939
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: got it anymore. Like we're always the last ones because

940
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: in our minds we keep telling ourselves if I can

941
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: just get right here, if I could just do this,

942
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: they let me do that, and we're we're always the

943
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: last one to know. It was like, hey, bro, you

944
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: ain't what you used to be, and you do you

945
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: do want to have that feeling of can I still

946
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: do would I still have the passion to do it?

947
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: You know? Well my body hold up? And so you

948
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: do want to give it another shot. That that that

949
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: definitely runs through that definitely runs through the mind. But

950
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: for a guy like Jason Witten, who has just about

951
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: every record and is a shut fire Hall of Famer,

952
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: for him, I thought he just delayed his getting his

953
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: yellow jacket. I mean because again, going to to Las

954
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: Vegas and at AFC, your chances of going to the

955
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Yeah, you had a chance in the beginning

956
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: of the year, and it even looked good at some

957
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: point in time. You were like, you know, it's five

958
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: and three or six and four or something like that.

959
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: And then you end up the season two and six,

960
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: so you know, early on kind of like, all right,

961
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: maybe we get to the playoffs, maybe we can make

962
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: some noise. But there wasn't a real realistic chance that

963
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: you were going to beat King Mahomes in the company

964
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: and make it to the super Bowl. Nathan Jerry having

965
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: regrets about that one year in Carolina, Now, it was fun.

966
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: I went back with Tony wise, maybe we had some

967
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: tragic things happened there, man, and that wasn't you know,

968
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: it ain't worth talking about. But it was exciting because

969
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, you know, the things that happened was very,

970
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 1: very severe and ugly, but it kept your eyes open

971
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: because you've finally realized that the Cowboys been the only

972
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: one with problems. Seriously, it opens Cowboys ain't only one

973
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: dealing with crazy players. Okay, Kurt, last five minutes of

974
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: the show, take it away. It's all you, no machine gun, Kurt,

975
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: let's go. You ain't talking to the wall. Kurt. Make

976
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: sure you ain't talking to the wall. Now. If nobody

977
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: else answer, y'all answer you, Kurt. Yeah right, Okay, Well,

978
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these. I had some other subjects,

979
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: but they might be for bigger. Um, don't give us

980
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: a trap. Look, we got you now have four minutes.

981
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: Don't give us a fifteen minute subject from four minute conversation.

982
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: All right, all right, okay, they're serious. One one of

983
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: our we got. There's a lot of good Cowboys bloggers

984
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: out there. One of them suggested there are four players

985
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: that you could potentially trade this offseason to get, you know,

986
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: picks or improve your defense or something like that. And

987
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: I just I thought it was an interesting four and

988
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your opinions. One is Michael Gallup.

989
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: He's been brought up a lot sis a guy who

990
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: would maybe trade and consider. The next is Jalen Smith,

991
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: which I think everybody is, you know, kind of on

992
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: the off the Jadome Smith bandwagon and wanting to see more.

993
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: The last year are a little more interesting. One is

994
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. He hadn't didn't do much his first year

995
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, hurt a lot last year

996
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: with a new defensive coordinator in who's a defensive line coach?

997
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: You wonder if he's still fit. The last one he

998
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: had his Dalton Schultz. He said, you know, Dalton just

999
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: had a great year. You've got Jarwin coming, Matt back.

1000
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the time to sell high. What do

1001
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: you think about those four guys or any possible trades

1002
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: this off either I think to me, I mean you

1003
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: can you can even add and Nate hung on like this,

1004
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: but you can even add twenty one to the mix.

1005
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: You can add Zeke to that mix as well. Loving that,

1006
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: oh no, Nate, loving that. I do think you can add.

1007
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,959
Speaker 1: You can add Zeke into that conversation, because um, there

1008
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: there are there are a lot of backs. I'm not

1009
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: saying they're going to be better than Zeke, but there

1010
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: are a lot of backs that you can get in

1011
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: and you can have the same productivity with two or

1012
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: three backs, then you would have with the one back

1013
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: for a lot less uh at cost, and it would

1014
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: bring back enough to this team needs to pile up

1015
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: on defensive picks. I doubt that you're going to get

1016
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: anything for day Jalen Smith. Michael Gallup may bring you

1017
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: back something, but I just think what he brings to

1018
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: this team offensively being at wide receiver number three and

1019
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: his ability to stretch the field um that that's going

1020
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: to be important when you want to get a route

1021
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: running guy underneath and a guy in the slot like

1022
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: cdm sleep Cede Land to have someone take the top

1023
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: off this the defense, and that's that guy's Michael gallop Um.

1024
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: And Tristan Hill again another one who I doesn't think

1025
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: for the one year that he kind of played, there

1026
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: wasn't enough that I look at that and go, well,

1027
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: let's let him go and bring back the Hall. But

1028
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: I think if you add a player like Jeke Elliott

1029
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: to the mix, now you're talking about someone that he

1030
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: becomes a finishing touch to another franchise that can that

1031
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: can really use a player like that, maybe like a

1032
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: team like Baltimore, maybe a team. If the Jets signed

1033
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, you know, maybe Zeke to the Jets or um,

1034
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: they probably won't have any more picks left to give you.

1035
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: But there are a bunch of teams the Bronco There

1036
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: are a bunch of teams who can use a running

1037
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: back like Zeke that would give you, that will give

1038
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: you some picks back in return. Yeah, like the Dallas

1039
00:58:53,880 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys not giving way Zeke for nothing. No I'm not

1040
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: saying I'm saying. I'm saying get nothing. No, no, get

1041
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: a haulback form. You can get a hauldback for even

1042
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: a geting. But but but a great, great ass jest,

1043
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,919
Speaker 1: what's the next one, Kurt? Well, well, I think we're

1044
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: that that we're out of time. Well, I got some

1045
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: more questions for you next week we can do but wow, wow,

1046
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: we'll give We'll give you more time. We'll give you

1047
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: ten minutes next. Let me give it. That was just

1048
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: let me shout out. I was Stephen Molinex with the

1049
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Landry Hat blog. They do a nice job over there,

1050
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: so I just want to give him a little credit

1051
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: for that. So all right, but would you trade how

1052
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: about would you trade Dalton Schultz up to the year

1053
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: he had sell High. Ain't touching my offense. I touch

1054
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: him my offense, but don't defense have added have at offense.

1055
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: I'll trade, I'll trade Dalton Schultz. I'll talk. Can you

1056
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: how can you improve your defense if you don't get

1057
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: you some of your ratsets on offense? No listen if

1058
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: the phone is open for dults shoults. If so one

1059
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: wants to call for Dalton Schultz, the phone is open,

1060
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances there. I'm sure Blake jarw was

1061
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna come back problemly, ready to go, Blake jar I

1062
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: let them dope be open for him. I know what

1063
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 1: dog can do. The dog get open for the other cat,

1064
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: but I ain't man. Yeah, you pay the other cat.

1065
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: I am so tired of potential. If I got somebody

1066
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: in the offense and I know what they can do,

1067
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: who they are? They got another year with with Kellen.

1068
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: Let's go got his game right? My man's name right?

1069
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: Killing not killing? Oh yeah, because he finally or something

1070
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: the last three times of the year. Right, he deserved

1071
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: to have his name pronounced correctly. You know what? That

1072
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: would be a good segment like your forehead when you

1073
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: when you do that's just the forehead shot. It was nice.

1074
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: That'd be a good segment. Is the phone open? Is

1075
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: the phone open? And just go through the list? Who

1076
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: would you trade? Who would you be open to trade?

1077
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do that next year, fellas. It's been fun.

1078
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl this weekend, the virtual Pro Bowl, the maddened

1079
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is what's happening this weekend. So did the

1080
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys get like eight to nine backup guys on the team.

1081
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: It's virtual, so everybody, everybody who got his virtual so

1082
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: everybody who's got originally voted will be there. You don't

1083
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: have to worry about doing so. Did Jalen get in

1084
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: his sponsorship with his clear eye view? He's right here

1085
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: all right? Nay, good see you, Kurt, good seeing you

1086
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: keep talking to that wall, Jesse, good seeing you. Even

1087
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: though the show didn't start out so great view baby,

1088
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: you know that view that we got before we came

1089
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: on the air. We need less of that, more of

1090
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: the forehead, less of that, yeah, less of the other one,

1091
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: uh beam, and thanks for keeping us. He was jealous, jealous.

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01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: Here We will be back same time. Hey plays next Thursday,

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01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Hanging with the boys. Give me some grace,

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Speaker 1: Give me some Grace. This has been a production of

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