WEBVTT - Eagles Draft: A Trade For The Future

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<v Speaker 1>We welcome you in the Eagles Draft Central, presented by

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<v Speaker 1>Deetson Watson, Eagles insider Dave Spiderow along with Merrill Reese.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're waiting to see what happens here in round

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<v Speaker 1>number four for the Eagles, who have the thirteenth selection overall,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteenth in this round. And we're getting early word via Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, because that's where all the news is broken

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<v Speaker 1>that the Eagles might be trading this pick to the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions. That's the only detail we have right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We see all of these Detroit on the world, so

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<v Speaker 1>there is a trade, the Eagles trading the pick to Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>Will get to details of that deal when we here

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<v Speaker 1>are the details clearly a run on offensive line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>early midway through through this fourth round. So the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>maybe getting that extra fifth round pick that they traded,

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<v Speaker 1>or perhaps even getting a pick for next year maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. It's interesting that they move out of the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth But there were three offensive live and chosen in

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<v Speaker 1>the last half dozen picks or so. There is one

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<v Speaker 1>who was still out there who's interesting in that is

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Lewinsky from West Virginia University. But not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of offensive lineman who have names that you recognize. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I let's go over to the fan cave,

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<v Speaker 1>Bo Wolf and Greg co Sell from NFL Films. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a trade in the works. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense, guys, given that the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the Eagles gave up those two fifth round picks yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly said, you want more picks than fewer picks,

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<v Speaker 1>So certainly this does make sense. Just looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>draft order here, it looks like Detroit didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>a fourth round pick, So it looks like the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>moving a pretty far ways down here in order to

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<v Speaker 1>recoup a few picks. And I think the depth of

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<v Speaker 1>this offensive line class once you get beyond those first

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<v Speaker 1>two day guys, there are a lot of athletic players

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<v Speaker 1>who could sort of fit the Eagles mold. Maybe they'll

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<v Speaker 1>end up being able to take two of them in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth round or so, and I guess that's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And see, now you get into what their draft board

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, because we don't know exactly how they have

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<v Speaker 1>players valued and rated. But that's the key question here,

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<v Speaker 1>because there are players here that I would feel very

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<v Speaker 1>good about taking. Actually, Merrill mentioned Mark Lewinski, a player

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<v Speaker 1>I watched sevent eight games of on film, a guard

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<v Speaker 1>from West Virginia. I really like Lewinsky. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>again how he's rated on their draft board. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he fits what the Eagles do. But again, now you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting into a situation where maybe you feel you want

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<v Speaker 1>more picks and you still can get players you value

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<v Speaker 1>relatively highly in the fifth or sixth round. In terms

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<v Speaker 1>of other offensive linemen the Eagles have taken a look

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<v Speaker 1>at in the pre draft process, Sean Hickey from Syracuse,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyris Thompson from Oklahoma on that list, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>were expecting if the Eagles did stay here, that Penn

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<v Speaker 1>State safety Adrian Amos would have been a possib ability,

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility. But I still believe they have to come

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<v Speaker 1>out of this draft with some offensive lineman given what

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard about Evan Mathis and his age, given the

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<v Speaker 1>age of Jason Peters. We don't know exactly how they

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<v Speaker 1>feel about Matt Tobin at right guard. He's the starter

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak today, So they need some offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>depth simply on the left side because of age. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>Gabe Wright from Auburn, the defensive tackle ends up being

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<v Speaker 1>in the player taken with the Eagles selection by the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions. I guess we'll find out how far down

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles have moved. Dave back to you guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the word is via via our friend Adam Kaplan on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter says that the Eagles have acquired a third round

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<v Speaker 1>draft pick in twenty sixteen great in exchange for that

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<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick. So in theory, now, guys, the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>do not select in rounds four or five. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a long wait until pick one. That's good. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's great value, especially when you remember that the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>gave up their second round pick next year and the

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Bradford trade, so now they'll have two thirds next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Some ridge to move up. But you're right, obviously right

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<v Speaker 1>now picks, it's the great value, no question about it. However,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are talking about the offensive line. We've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the offensive line. How much of a concern upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>is the offensive line? Clearly? Maybe not that much. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we we have been reading for weeks and weeks the

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<v Speaker 1>possibility of releasing or trading Evan mathis maybe maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>was just that reports. Maybe they believe that Evan mathis

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<v Speaker 1>comes back in left guard, and Matt Tobin is the

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<v Speaker 1>left of the right guard along with Alan Barber. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we just keep moving forward here on this

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. But I mean, for me, the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>is the glaring question mark on the roster more than

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<v Speaker 1>defensive secondary, more than outside linebacker. Maybe that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>way they feel upstairs. Yeah, and maybe it ends up

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<v Speaker 1>being the kind of thing where after the draft the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles will circle back in free agency and see who

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<v Speaker 1>else is still out there in veteran free agency. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Adam Caplan would be the person to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about that. But yeah, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly the case. They value either players on their roster

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<v Speaker 1>more highly or the combination is that there's players in

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<v Speaker 1>this draft that they truly feel it will be available

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<v Speaker 1>later sixth round, seventh rounders. You mentioned bout free agency,

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<v Speaker 1>but I agree with Dave. I think that the offensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you love your players that are the starters

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<v Speaker 1>right now, you need some depth in this group simply

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<v Speaker 1>because of age. Well, you know, this is why the

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<v Speaker 1>draft is so hard. It's really impossible to come out

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<v Speaker 1>of draft week and filling every need on your team.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always going to have some position that maybe didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get quite as much attention as you expected to get. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And the main issue here, and this is why when

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<v Speaker 1>people do mock drafts or talk about players, no one

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<v Speaker 1>knows what a team's draft board looks like. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not asked to go and take a look at

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<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly's draft board, so we don't know exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>they have players rated. And because of that, it's very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I spend a lot of time, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bout watching tape. I have my evaluations based on traits, characteristics.

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<v Speaker 1>I have players that I really like that I think

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<v Speaker 1>would be good fits for the Eagles. They may not

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<v Speaker 1>see those players, is the same way I do. How

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<v Speaker 1>about this Eagles offensive line with the players who are

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<v Speaker 1>still here? You know, Dave talked about Evan Mathis. How

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<v Speaker 1>about Matt Toby. What did you make of his performance

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<v Speaker 1>getting to start? Yeah, in his second up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>traits that you liked, but a lot of work to do,

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<v Speaker 1>a clear work in progress as a starting right guard

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. You know, I think if you're being

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<v Speaker 1>honest and fair, and that's all where I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be when I watch films is. I don't think Lane

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson played as well as they would hope a fourth

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<v Speaker 1>pick in a draft would have played last year in

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<v Speaker 1>his second season coming back from the suspension. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Peters did not have anywhere near as good a

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<v Speaker 1>year last year as he had the year before, when

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was clearly the best left tackle in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. Evan mathis still on the roster, is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be thirty four years old. So I think these

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<v Speaker 1>are reasons why I believe you have to address the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. The only thing that really surprises me about

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of offensive lineman taken here is that the

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<v Speaker 1>indications from the Eagles offseasonning DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews,

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<v Speaker 1>was that they were going to get back to really

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<v Speaker 1>pounding the ball in the run game on offense. You

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought that that meant bringing in some high

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<v Speaker 1>level offensive lineman. But that's how the board has shaken

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<v Speaker 1>out for the Eagles. We send it back out to

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<v Speaker 1>David Meryll. Let's talk about the genesis of a trade

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<v Speaker 1>like this. It began in two thousand and twelve. Now

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<v Speaker 1>follow me here, Merrill, the Eagles trading a cornerback Asante

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<v Speaker 1>Samuel to the Atlanta Falcons for a seventh round draft pick.

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<v Speaker 1>That seventh round draft pick became running back Bryce Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>who I happened to be very high on at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>who played sparingly at the University of Tennessee, played for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years here in Philadelphia. Was dealt last

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<v Speaker 1>year to the Buffalo Bills for a fourth round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>which turned out to be this selection right here, number

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<v Speaker 1>one thirteen that goes to the Detroit Lions, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles get back a third round draft pick in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So Asante Samuel years later still paying off for the

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<v Speaker 1>Philip Alfhew Eagles in the form of a two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen third round pick, and merrill. As it stands now,

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<v Speaker 1>no picks in round four, no picks in round five,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll see you in a couple of hours when

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles get up and get ready for pick number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. And at that point you're just looking

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<v Speaker 1>for the best players on your board. So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear you come up with some names between now

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<v Speaker 1>and then, because Amos won't be there. None of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys that you've got on your list will be there

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<v Speaker 1>in round six. If you're worth your soul, well let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what we can do. Yeah, all right, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>it for us until the next time the Eagles have

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<v Speaker 1>the pick, and we'll come back live with more Eagles

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