Speaker 1: We welcome you in the Eagles Draft Central, presented by
Speaker 1: Deetson Watson, Eagles insider Dave Spiderow along with Merrill Reese.
Speaker 1: And we're waiting to see what happens here in round
Speaker 1: number four for the Eagles, who have the thirteenth selection overall,
Speaker 1: fourteenth in this round. And we're getting early word via Twitter,
Speaker 1: of course, because that's where all the news is broken
Speaker 1: that the Eagles might be trading this pick to the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. That's the only detail we have right now.
Speaker 1: We see all of these Detroit on the world, so
Speaker 1: there is a trade, the Eagles trading the pick to Detroit.
Speaker 1: Will get to details of that deal when we here
Speaker 1: are the details clearly a run on offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: early midway through through this fourth round. So the Eagles
Speaker 1: maybe getting that extra fifth round pick that they traded,
Speaker 1: or perhaps even getting a pick for next year maybe,
Speaker 1: who knows. It's interesting that they move out of the
Speaker 1: fourth But there were three offensive live and chosen in
Speaker 1: the last half dozen picks or so. There is one
Speaker 1: who was still out there who's interesting in that is
Speaker 1: Mark Lewinsky from West Virginia University. But not a lot
Speaker 1: of offensive lineman who have names that you recognize. At
Speaker 1: this point, I let's go over to the fan cave,
Speaker 1: Bo Wolf and Greg co Sell from NFL Films. Guys,
Speaker 1: we have a trade in the works. I think this
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense, guys, given that the fact
Speaker 1: that the Eagles gave up those two fifth round picks yesterday,
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly said, you want more picks than fewer picks,
Speaker 1: So certainly this does make sense. Just looking at the
Speaker 1: draft order here, it looks like Detroit didn't even have
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, So it looks like the Eagles
Speaker 1: moving a pretty far ways down here in order to
Speaker 1: recoup a few picks. And I think the depth of
Speaker 1: this offensive line class once you get beyond those first
Speaker 1: two day guys, there are a lot of athletic players
Speaker 1: who could sort of fit the Eagles mold. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: end up being able to take two of them in
Speaker 1: the fifth round or so, and I guess that's possible.
Speaker 1: And see, now you get into what their draft board
Speaker 1: looks like, because we don't know exactly how they have
Speaker 1: players valued and rated. But that's the key question here,
Speaker 1: because there are players here that I would feel very
Speaker 1: good about taking. Actually, Merrill mentioned Mark Lewinski, a player
Speaker 1: I watched sevent eight games of on film, a guard
Speaker 1: from West Virginia. I really like Lewinsky. I don't know
Speaker 1: again how he's rated on their draft board. I think
Speaker 1: he fits what the Eagles do. But again, now you're
Speaker 1: getting into a situation where maybe you feel you want
Speaker 1: more picks and you still can get players you value
Speaker 1: relatively highly in the fifth or sixth round. In terms
Speaker 1: of other offensive linemen the Eagles have taken a look
Speaker 1: at in the pre draft process, Sean Hickey from Syracuse,
Speaker 1: Tyris Thompson from Oklahoma on that list, I think we
Speaker 1: were expecting if the Eagles did stay here, that Penn
Speaker 1: State safety Adrian Amos would have been a possib ability,
Speaker 1: a possibility. But I still believe they have to come
Speaker 1: out of this draft with some offensive lineman given what
Speaker 1: we've heard about Evan Mathis and his age, given the
Speaker 1: age of Jason Peters. We don't know exactly how they
Speaker 1: feel about Matt Tobin at right guard. He's the starter
Speaker 1: as we speak today, So they need some offensive line
Speaker 1: depth simply on the left side because of age. All right,
Speaker 1: Gabe Wright from Auburn, the defensive tackle ends up being
Speaker 1: in the player taken with the Eagles selection by the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I guess we'll find out how far down
Speaker 1: the Eagles have moved. Dave back to you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the word is via via our friend Adam Kaplan on
Speaker 1: Twitter says that the Eagles have acquired a third round
Speaker 1: draft pick in twenty sixteen great in exchange for that
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. So in theory, now, guys, the Eagles
Speaker 1: do not select in rounds four or five. We have
Speaker 1: a long wait until pick one. That's good. I think
Speaker 1: that's great value, especially when you remember that the Eagles
Speaker 1: gave up their second round pick next year and the
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford trade, so now they'll have two thirds next year.
Speaker 1: Some ridge to move up. But you're right, obviously right
Speaker 1: now picks, it's the great value, no question about it. However,
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about the offensive line. We've talked
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. How much of a concern upstairs
Speaker 1: is the offensive line? Clearly? Maybe not that much. You know,
Speaker 1: we we have been reading for weeks and weeks the
Speaker 1: possibility of releasing or trading Evan mathis maybe maybe that
Speaker 1: was just that reports. Maybe they believe that Evan mathis
Speaker 1: comes back in left guard, and Matt Tobin is the
Speaker 1: left of the right guard along with Alan Barber. And
Speaker 1: you know, we just keep moving forward here on this
Speaker 1: offensive line. But I mean, for me, the offensive line
Speaker 1: is the glaring question mark on the roster more than
Speaker 1: defensive secondary, more than outside linebacker. Maybe that's not the
Speaker 1: way they feel upstairs. Yeah, and maybe it ends up
Speaker 1: being the kind of thing where after the draft the
Speaker 1: Eagles will circle back in free agency and see who
Speaker 1: else is still out there in veteran free agency. Maybe
Speaker 1: talking to Adam Caplan would be the person to talk
Speaker 1: to you about that. But yeah, and I think that's
Speaker 1: clearly the case. They value either players on their roster
Speaker 1: more highly or the combination is that there's players in
Speaker 1: this draft that they truly feel it will be available
Speaker 1: later sixth round, seventh rounders. You mentioned bout free agency,
Speaker 1: but I agree with Dave. I think that the offensive line,
Speaker 1: even if you love your players that are the starters
Speaker 1: right now, you need some depth in this group simply
Speaker 1: because of age. Well, you know, this is why the
Speaker 1: draft is so hard. It's really impossible to come out
Speaker 1: of draft week and filling every need on your team.
Speaker 1: You're always going to have some position that maybe didn't
Speaker 1: get quite as much attention as you expected to get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the main issue here, and this is why when
Speaker 1: people do mock drafts or talk about players, no one
Speaker 1: knows what a team's draft board looks like. You know,
Speaker 1: we're not asked to go and take a look at
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's draft board, so we don't know exactly how
Speaker 1: they have players rated. And because of that, it's very hard.
Speaker 1: You know, I spend a lot of time, as you know,
Speaker 1: bout watching tape. I have my evaluations based on traits, characteristics.
Speaker 1: I have players that I really like that I think
Speaker 1: would be good fits for the Eagles. They may not
Speaker 1: see those players, is the same way I do. How
Speaker 1: about this Eagles offensive line with the players who are
Speaker 1: still here? You know, Dave talked about Evan Mathis. How
Speaker 1: about Matt Toby. What did you make of his performance
Speaker 1: getting to start? Yeah, in his second up and down,
Speaker 1: traits that you liked, but a lot of work to do,
Speaker 1: a clear work in progress as a starting right guard
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, I think if you're being
Speaker 1: honest and fair, and that's all where I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be when I watch films is. I don't think Lane
Speaker 1: Johnson played as well as they would hope a fourth
Speaker 1: pick in a draft would have played last year in
Speaker 1: his second season coming back from the suspension. I think
Speaker 1: Jason Peters did not have anywhere near as good a
Speaker 1: year last year as he had the year before, when
Speaker 1: I thought he was clearly the best left tackle in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Evan mathis still on the roster, is going
Speaker 1: to be thirty four years old. So I think these
Speaker 1: are reasons why I believe you have to address the
Speaker 1: offensive line. The only thing that really surprises me about
Speaker 1: the lack of offensive lineman taken here is that the
Speaker 1: indications from the Eagles offseasonning DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews,
Speaker 1: was that they were going to get back to really
Speaker 1: pounding the ball in the run game on offense. You
Speaker 1: would have thought that that meant bringing in some high
Speaker 1: level offensive lineman. But that's how the board has shaken
Speaker 1: out for the Eagles. We send it back out to
Speaker 1: David Meryll. Let's talk about the genesis of a trade
Speaker 1: like this. It began in two thousand and twelve. Now
Speaker 1: follow me here, Merrill, the Eagles trading a cornerback Asante
Speaker 1: Samuel to the Atlanta Falcons for a seventh round draft pick.
Speaker 1: That seventh round draft pick became running back Bryce Brown,
Speaker 1: who I happened to be very high on at the time,
Speaker 1: who played sparingly at the University of Tennessee, played for
Speaker 1: a couple of years here in Philadelphia. Was dealt last
Speaker 1: year to the Buffalo Bills for a fourth round pick,
Speaker 1: which turned out to be this selection right here, number
Speaker 1: one thirteen that goes to the Detroit Lions, and the
Speaker 1: Eagles get back a third round draft pick in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: So Asante Samuel years later still paying off for the
Speaker 1: Philip Alfhew Eagles in the form of a two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen third round pick, and merrill. As it stands now,
Speaker 1: no picks in round four, no picks in round five,
Speaker 1: and I'll see you in a couple of hours when
Speaker 1: Eagles get up and get ready for pick number one.
Speaker 1: It really is. And at that point you're just looking
Speaker 1: for the best players on your board. So I want
Speaker 1: to hear you come up with some names between now
Speaker 1: and then, because Amos won't be there. None of those
Speaker 1: guys that you've got on your list will be there
Speaker 1: in round six. If you're worth your soul, well let's
Speaker 1: see what we can do. Yeah, all right, So that's
Speaker 1: it for us until the next time the Eagles have
Speaker 1: the pick, and we'll come back live with more Eagles
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