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Speaker 3: Your greetings, and welcome to a Monday edition of The
Speaker 3: Shotgun Start. It is October seventeenth, Andy. How are we doing, Brendan,
Speaker 3: I'm doing great?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Thursday night football was was rough, but with by a
Speaker 5: line I picked me up.
Speaker 4: On Saturday. We're we're at number.
Speaker 5: Eighteen in the in the rankings. We go, we're going
Speaker 5: into bye week. I mean, we're gonna be top team
Speaker 5: the next time we play.
Speaker 3: That's not bad, pretty good. I mean, this was an
Speaker 3: epic sports weekend. I gotta be honest. I don't know
Speaker 3: if Illinois Minnesota was like fourth front page of that,
Speaker 3: but this was a great, great sports weekend.
Speaker 4: Whether you are. It's not even over yet. We're still
Speaker 4: waiting for Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a great Sunday night game between Eagles
Speaker 3: and Cowboys, like a good matchup. We're recording here about
Speaker 3: five o'clock Eastern on Sunday, Bill's Chiefs going on right now.
Speaker 3: We had the college football. It was just like Tennessee
Speaker 3: Kansas State. I'm sorry, a TCU versus Oklahoma State. Just
Speaker 3: great college from USC. Late you had the Padres beating
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, the Phillies, My guardians like just a Jetta
Speaker 3: about your guard got the scene in Jetta that rivaled
Speaker 3: them all. With the fans storming the Green Us.
Speaker 5: You know, everything was ending. And I turned Zozo on
Speaker 5: and I was like, I was gonna watch it. I
Speaker 5: was gonna watch it and flight this morning we had
Speaker 5: our event down at Prairie Dunes, so we're recording from Hutchinson, Kansas.
Speaker 5: But uh the uh, I was gonna watch the Zozo
Speaker 5: to conclusion. But but I'll tell you what, Keegan and
Speaker 5: Ricky kind of put me to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean that that's the hallmark. That's Keegan and Ricky.
Speaker 3: That's fifteen years we've known them. That's like, how can
Speaker 3: I shoot like sixty eight or maybe you know sixty seven.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's just nothing about those guys. Games jumps off the
Speaker 3: page and makes it super like does that not mean
Speaker 3: they're bad. No, Like, ke Get's an amazing He's a legit.
Speaker 3: He takes so much shit for the you know, the
Speaker 3: pace of play and sort of the start stop and
Speaker 3: you know he has got the mass whole stuff going on,
Speaker 3: some Boston backlash for him, but he's like, he's just
Speaker 3: he's a real pro. He's not some four egg guy.
Speaker 3: He's been a real pro for more than a decade.
Speaker 3: I know it had been a few years since he won.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you're going to talk about something that's
Speaker 3: going to keep you up, I guess the Ricky storyline
Speaker 3: was interesting, but that's what Ricky does when things get interesting.
Speaker 3: He just puts it in, puts it in neutral, or
Speaker 3: goes not in a mile over the speed limit, just
Speaker 3: kind of goes twenty five down the middle lane all day.
Speaker 3: That's what happens with Ricky. But I would have been
Speaker 3: great if you want.
Speaker 5: Keagan is a certified ball striker, you know, like all
Speaker 5: time all timer plus years.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like, and the thing about those guys, it's kind of
Speaker 5: like Lucas Glover, you know, Chad Campbell is in this
Speaker 5: vein like guys that really really struggle with the flastick.
Speaker 5: But can you know, you don't go anywhere, like it's
Speaker 5: impossible to like lose your card when you hit it,
Speaker 5: when you flush it.
Speaker 4: So well, like when you're one of.
Speaker 5: Like the fifteen to twenty best you know, tee to
Speaker 5: green players in the world, once you make it up
Speaker 5: on tour, you're just going to ball strike your way
Speaker 5: to card every year.
Speaker 4: And Keegan's done that. Obviously.
Speaker 5: The putter, the putter ban was the thing that will
Speaker 5: always like I think, like you know, the putter band
Speaker 5: might have cost Kegan from like Hall of Fame. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if the belly putter doesn't get banned, you know, does
Speaker 5: he as his at as it is? He's probably horrendous,
Speaker 5: horrendous putter. He's at five wins in a major.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, he's probably maybe going to double digit wins. Maybe,
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe that's over over his all this,
Speaker 3: but it feels like.
Speaker 4: I can't wait for some data boys to come at
Speaker 4: that take.
Speaker 5: But like, honestly, you know, the other one would be Web,
Speaker 5: Like what would would Web have won?
Speaker 2: More?
Speaker 4: Sure?
Speaker 5: Granted he became a good putter, I don't think Maybe
Speaker 5: his distance the thing is, Keegan had the distance to
Speaker 5: to get it.
Speaker 4: Done, has gotten a lot of his career.
Speaker 5: I got to ask you a question, what do you
Speaker 5: think the pressure of getting to number one in the
Speaker 5: world was?
Speaker 4: What held Ricky back yesterday.
Speaker 3: Was that in play FedEx Cup number one if he won.
Speaker 5: Allegedly according to Addie, the guy that put together are.
Speaker 4: Her, he's never been there.
Speaker 3: He's never never been there, never been one, all the
Speaker 3: distinctions everything. I figured he'd be one after one of
Speaker 3: the players, just by like virtue of those bonus points
Speaker 3: and things like that.
Speaker 5: But okay, he would have been one if he had
Speaker 5: If you had gotten one, he would have been one
Speaker 5: achievement closer to catching the Prince upon avidra Uh.
Speaker 3: This event doesn't do a lot for me. I think
Speaker 3: it's good that they go. They have a pretty I thought,
Speaker 3: a pretty strong field this week. They've got a you know,
Speaker 3: stronger field maybe in the past thanks to Tiger, but
Speaker 3: are more interesting. I suppose this was. It's just hard
Speaker 3: to get up for it, right, I think if you're
Speaker 3: like really into something and you know you want to
Speaker 3: stay up at eleven, Like I watched it pretty late
Speaker 3: last night. I watched till two in the morning Eastern,
Speaker 3: and then I bailed it. Like when they're on the
Speaker 3: fifteenth hole and it was like a one shot spread,
Speaker 3: and I was like, like you said, I just can't
Speaker 3: you know, this isn't Sabo playing for gold medal. This
Speaker 3: is just a little zozo. I can't stay up for this.
Speaker 3: So I went to bed and uh, it's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it seemed to mean a lot. To Kegan Bradley,
Speaker 3: He's like, I played with Tiger in this event. It
Speaker 3: does seem to be gaining a little bit of history.
Speaker 3: Not with everybody. You see Grumpy Grio, Grumpy Grio going
Speaker 3: on the record, living up to his name, his nickname.
Speaker 3: Here just there was this guy aggregated. He goes this,
Speaker 3: of course, he shot like sixty four on Sunday. He's like,
Speaker 3: is this of course it plays well? Kind of tree lined?
Speaker 3: He goes, not really, I don't like it, to be honest,
Speaker 3: this is Grumpy Griel. It's a tournament.
Speaker 4: He has sixty five sixty four on the week.
Speaker 3: It's a tournament. You have to play. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of points and not so many players. So obviously I
Speaker 3: feel like I want to keep playing it here. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that's going to be the case, but
Speaker 3: it's been a good week, So Grubby Green just has
Speaker 3: to hate on everything, but it seems to be having
Speaker 3: some year over year traction. Keegan seemed to be really
Speaker 3: happy with himself for winning this specific event. He loves
Speaker 3: this course, has some personal history with it and playing
Speaker 3: with Tiger when he won.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, My question would be, do you think that
Speaker 5: this event has more of a feel to it if
Speaker 5: they're playing the CJ Cup next week in South Korea?
Speaker 4: Do you think then this event makes a little bit
Speaker 4: more so?
Speaker 3: Of course, so we're to taking Tokyota. What's the nearest
Speaker 3: airport to Congary? Uh, Colombia, Columbia.
Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, they got about.
Speaker 3: There's some PJ field nearby. But yeah, I mean, why
Speaker 3: is the CJ Cup not at Jaju Island or somewhere
Speaker 3: in Korea?
Speaker 4: Is it COVID again? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess that's what I would assume, but I don't know.
Speaker 3: I figure we were past that at this point. But uh,
Speaker 3: it was a fine event. Where where? So where do
Speaker 3: you have Keegan right now? Is he ahead of Ricky
Speaker 3: as an all time career? I mean, one's got a players,
Speaker 3: one's got a pg A.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 5: I mean you got to look at on the course,
Speaker 5: off the course, and so I mean Keegan's got as.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Like, you look at Keegan's wins, they're incredible.
Speaker 5: He's got a WGC, he's so he's got the Major,
Speaker 5: he's got the PGA, he's got WGC, and he's got
Speaker 5: a playoff event.
Speaker 4: Wins.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, beat Tiger, right, So three of us
Speaker 5: five wins are like really legit events.
Speaker 3: He beat Rose in a playoff in that one right
Speaker 3: when Rose won, the FedEx Company was like cooking that time.
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, he's he's won some big boy, big
Speaker 3: boy events. And in addition to that, Nelson, I think
Speaker 3: that was his first one way way way back when.
Speaker 4: This now like.
Speaker 5: Who's ten years here's the thing, right, how do you
Speaker 5: how do you want to judge these two players? Would
Speaker 5: be the question because I would say if you put
Speaker 5: together like their best five year period or their best
Speaker 5: ten year period, it's not close.
Speaker 4: Ricky's better, okay, But.
Speaker 5: Because of Keegan's kind of ability to stay relevant and
Speaker 5: pop in, I think, like when you look at just
Speaker 5: the wins, his is more impressive when you look and
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I think that's what
Speaker 5: people kind of generally point to. But Ricky's got a
Speaker 5: better Majors record, having not one one, but like just
Speaker 5: the consistency for a few years. I mean, like Ricky's
Speaker 5: five year best five years versus Keegan's best drive five years,
Speaker 5: It's not even close.
Speaker 4: Ricky's better.
Speaker 5: Ricky reached a level of golf. So like it's a
Speaker 5: it's a question of like what how? And this is
Speaker 5: where I always struggle with golfers, right is how do
Speaker 5: you how do you rate them? And this is the
Speaker 5: tricky thing. Is it based off of their like career
Speaker 5: in total? Is it based off of the term as
Speaker 5: they won? Is it based off of their their five
Speaker 5: best years? So I personally probably would rather go with
Speaker 5: like what what did you do your five best years?
Speaker 5: If you your five best year span, right, not like
Speaker 5: you can't take twenty twenty, twenty fifteen, twenty twelve, Like
Speaker 5: you can't.
Speaker 4: So it's like what was the at the peak of
Speaker 4: your powers? Who were you? And I think then you
Speaker 4: take Ricky.
Speaker 3: I mean, Ricky's wins aren't like chump change either. You know,
Speaker 3: he's got a wells Fargo players at Deutsche Bank, which
Speaker 3: is a playoff Honda when it was the field was
Speaker 3: not bad and the Phoenix Open, which always has a
Speaker 3: strong field. So it's not like I don't know, he's
Speaker 3: picking off like a three M open here or there,
Speaker 3: and we're not like necessarily always prone to propping up Ricky.
Speaker 3: But but it's like a real resume. His wins aren't
Speaker 3: chump change compared to Bradley's even wanted some really good places.
Speaker 4: Other thing with Keegan this is just a eye test thing.
Speaker 4: Uh oh uh oh.
Speaker 3: The eye tests usually people don't like.
Speaker 4: Usually this is not a positive for Keegan.
Speaker 3: That's what I figure.
Speaker 5: His wins three of them were in playoffs, two of
Speaker 5: them were by one shot. Yeah, never really just said wow.
Speaker 5: There's never been a Keegan Bradley performance where you just
Speaker 5: go wow, Kegan really had it this week. He was playing,
Speaker 5: of course to somebody that we weren't, and I think
Speaker 5: that's kind of important.
Speaker 3: Do you know how high in the world he's gotten,
Speaker 3: Like I wonder what like his peak high tenth He
Speaker 3: got the tenth that looks like which feels out right
Speaker 3: something like that, So congrats to him. He was very
Speaker 3: emotional at the end. So it was Brooks and winning
Speaker 3: in Jetta, which we'll get to him in a minute.
Speaker 5: But just wait, just wait, You're gonna have to just
Speaker 5: wait in this podcast for Jetta.
Speaker 4: How about it? How about Keegan getting in the Pancake Zone.
Speaker 3: You have you should subscribe to the Friday newsletter. I
Speaker 3: thought we had some great writing from Garrett Morrison on
Speaker 3: Friday about the OWGR like what are the actual criteria,
Speaker 3: what is actually useful? What is not? With input from
Speaker 3: other smart minds in the golf world of our Twitter
Speaker 3: sphere or whatever they call it, really good article there
Speaker 3: or a good segment. You have something coming out on
Speaker 3: the Pancake Zone and Monday's newsletter.
Speaker 4: You can subscribe to it.
Speaker 5: At the five day Club doc that I'm having to,
Speaker 5: you know, explain yourself, Carlney. Yeah, the Carl Peterson Zone.
Speaker 5: We call it the Swedish Pancake Zone. Five Win Club,
Speaker 5: which is what you know, really it started. This whole
Speaker 5: thing started because Ricky's been in the Pancake Zone for
Speaker 5: a long time.
Speaker 3: It's five wins and no more. Right as soon as
Speaker 3: you said five tour wins, big Carl, that's fine, okay,
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 5: The Pancake Zone has illustrious names in it, you know,
Speaker 5: and I decided to go through all the people in
Speaker 5: the Pancakes zone at rank you know, active and non
Speaker 5: active players, the top ten and the pancing zone.
Speaker 3: So you know this, I mean what, you're in your
Speaker 3: mid thirties, you're ranking. Who are some of these players
Speaker 3: that you're just you're you're assessing their career.
Speaker 4: So I'll give you. I'll give you one. I included
Speaker 4: Bob Tosky's Watch Bobs.
Speaker 5: Because I said, where would where would the golf world
Speaker 5: be about his instructional videos in the nineties, So Bob
Speaker 5: Tosky is in this top ten.
Speaker 4: Highly subjective I was. I was really bummed.
Speaker 5: I couldn't find a spot for a few players that
Speaker 5: I wanted to get in there.
Speaker 4: I wanted to get Malty in. Couldn't find spot for him.
Speaker 3: Well, if you double in the broadcasting career, maybe you
Speaker 3: get that that, you know, amplifies his resume, pushes him up, up,
Speaker 3: up the rankings.
Speaker 4: But yeah, subscribe read it up. Promoted on social media tomorrow.
Speaker 5: It was I've been writing too much serious stuff lately.
Speaker 4: It was just fun to kick back and I don't think.
Speaker 3: I think this is a serious analysis of the pancakes
Speaker 3: on the stack. Where are you stacking the pancakes in there.
Speaker 5: I mean the problem is, like Carl Petterson had to
Speaker 5: be in it, he had to be in the rankings.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's the namesake, for God's sakes.
Speaker 5: I I you know, there's two illustrious Swedish golfers in
Speaker 5: the pancakes zone Peterson and do you know who the
Speaker 5: other one is.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 3: Robert Carlson, yesper, yesper.
Speaker 5: I think stends into the six win club, which we
Speaker 5: got to figure out a name for that, because Sabo's
Speaker 5: in that one. Oh, Peter Thompson's in there, and I
Speaker 5: think it's almost all major championships.
Speaker 3: It's right, right, right again, this is just PGA Tour wins, right,
Speaker 3: So I guess people worked up. Uh do you see
Speaker 3: everybody worked up about Michael Campbell being compared to Ricky
Speaker 3: as Michael Campbell just a one, one time winner. There
Speaker 3: was some Golf Digest in a graphic it's like would
Speaker 3: you rather have one major win? And like they're portraying
Speaker 3: it as nothing else. Well, Campbell's got like all these
Speaker 3: euroins people in Australia, the Oceanic Area, European tour fans
Speaker 3: went to town on golf die, Just would you rather
Speaker 3: be Michael Campbell with one win and it's a major
Speaker 3: Ricky Fowler with five people went nuts because they're discredited.
Speaker 3: Campbell had a great, great career, just not PGA tour wins.
Speaker 4: So can I use this opportunity to segue?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this is a professional Speaking of comparisons, how
Speaker 6: was at the airport this morning watching watching Jetta and uh.
Speaker 5: The broadcast made this comparison like times. They kept pulling
Speaker 5: up this to beam graphic.
Speaker 3: To be clear, it was on like your own personal
Speaker 3: device they didn't have at the bar at the airport,
Speaker 3: the airport. It's not my terminal TVs. Okay, I just
Speaker 3: wanted to make sure. I was like, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 5: They kept pulling up this absurd graphic that was comparing
Speaker 5: Peter U line to Brooks.
Speaker 4: Kept. I saw that what are they doing that? What
Speaker 4: are you doing?
Speaker 5: You guys are so idiotic you're comparing. You're making your
Speaker 5: tour look like complete ship by putting Peter.
Speaker 4: U lines up there. Yes, I kept they put they
Speaker 4: weren't clarifying it. They clarify his wigs were web dot.
Speaker 3: Com corn Verry. Yes, I heard it.
Speaker 4: I saw it.
Speaker 3: Because I had already I was already sharpened my lives
Speaker 3: for you line segment today, like when when he was
Speaker 3: going to compete in to say like, look this is
Speaker 3: your classic four A guy. If that right? And now
Speaker 3: four A guys can win on the PGA tour, right,
Speaker 3: we see him every now they pick off.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm here from it from our one of our
Speaker 5: data analysts, Joe Lamania, that we got to watch out
Speaker 5: for Jaeger. He's speed training and he might, you know,
Speaker 5: might have enough pop in the bat.
Speaker 4: Now, who's Jaeger? Steven Oh, Stephen Yeger? Oh, classic four
Speaker 4: A guy?
Speaker 5: I mean he's yeah, he's saying watch out for Steven Yeger.
Speaker 5: He might he might have gap power. Now he can
Speaker 5: get the ball out of the infield. Now I plays
Speaker 5: hitting Gappers.
Speaker 3: Plays in October. My guards never hit it. That's all
Speaker 3: they do is play a little ball, small.
Speaker 4: Ball, five singles to win a game.
Speaker 3: It's on fifteen fing hits and they were like nine
Speaker 3: of sixteen with runners in scoring positions, score only six runs.
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. And the Yankees just hitting over the wall
Speaker 3: every time. It's just it's like and they're like, wonder
Speaker 3: how they lose. Uh anyways, but yeah, it was I
Speaker 3: was so sharpening the knives. I was like, this is like,
Speaker 3: this isn't a good look for live. That a classic
Speaker 3: four A guys all of a sudden like going out winning, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: doing well, Like I'm sorry Peter Uline couldn't stick on
Speaker 3: the PGA four at the one twenty five. He's got
Speaker 3: three career wins. When was the Madeira Islands Open, It's
Speaker 3: just like barely an event, one of those like Mickey
Speaker 3: Mouse euro Tour events, even back in whenever he won
Speaker 3: it twenty thirteen, like it was not a stron event,
Speaker 3: and then he won two corn Faery Tour events and
Speaker 3: this is not, you know, obviously a legendary amateur career
Speaker 3: like really STRAWNI image not legend Shawn am sorry sorry,
Speaker 3: amateur career that sort of.
Speaker 4: Got to work. It got to number one in the world,
Speaker 4: but he was hardly a legend. Yes, sorry, but it's
Speaker 4: sort of talking. We're not talking Ryan Moore here.
Speaker 3: It oversold what was to call maybe like there was
Speaker 3: a lot of hype of and he's a four A guy.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I I'm not trying to bury him, but
Speaker 3: he's a for a player Corn Ferry. Maybe he guaranteed money.
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the kid, you know, he just needed some
Speaker 5: guaranteed money to get his juices really going.
Speaker 3: Brendan, he's played in one Masters and that was twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: I assume that was an off an amateur deal. So
Speaker 3: it's not like he's been crushing it and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, not all this. But he's doing really well
Speaker 3: on live. I think that speaks a little bit too.
Speaker 3: Not having a full seventy two old examination, not having.
Speaker 4: Having to qualify, guy, not having to qualify. In no
Speaker 4: way this is the thing. In no freaking way.
Speaker 5: If you were saying I'm going to disrupt the PGA tour,
Speaker 5: I'm going.
Speaker 4: To get you know.
Speaker 5: The only reason that Peter u Line got picked to
Speaker 5: live was because of his father.
Speaker 3: It's a name that's kind of been no pretty.
Speaker 5: Obviously it protected the titleist sponsorship.
Speaker 3: Mone Also he seems like a pretty. He was very disgruntled. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he seemed ripe to want to go anyways. One way
Speaker 3: off of saying the live was just making the argument
Speaker 3: for me. But this graphic you're talking about displaying.
Speaker 4: They displayed it in three times go.
Speaker 3: Well, they had made it, so they got to keep
Speaker 3: using it.
Speaker 5: I guess that's my favorite thing about LIFT broadcast is
Speaker 5: that they make stuff and then they used it.
Speaker 4: They just beat it into the ground.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no commercial breaks, so they got to give
Speaker 3: their guys, you know, five seconds to take a leak
Speaker 3: and things like that.
Speaker 5: Was texting me like where did Arlow go for twenty minutes?
Speaker 5: He probably had to go to the can.
Speaker 3: You know, I want I want whatever drugs came with
Speaker 3: Jerry Foltz's contract whatever he's on, because at one point
Speaker 3: I looked up that was they got him the good stuff.
Speaker 3: I heard he goes the Niblecks are playing with a
Speaker 3: Engines lately. You know, they spent with the Vengeance. First
Speaker 3: of all, they finished eleven out of twelve this week
Speaker 3: they finished eleven out of the twelve teams because they're
Speaker 3: just trying to hype up this sort of bracket they
Speaker 3: got going for Miami. That spent half the broadcast trying
Speaker 3: to figure out how to hype up Miami and all
Speaker 3: the game within the game of seating for Miami and
Speaker 3: things like that. But he said, Nippleck's playing with the
Speaker 3: Vengeance lately. That was my favorite moment of the oh.
Speaker 3: There was also a little cheeky reference to sounds like Valderama.
Speaker 3: Did you hear that part when they're talking about Valderama
Speaker 3: is going to be on the schedule. They were making
Speaker 3: out we'll see that next year, we'll see it next
Speaker 3: because I had heard I forgot to bring this up
Speaker 3: last week, perfect perfect that they at Valderama. I heard
Speaker 3: Gonzala Fernandez Castano was trying to get a little cut
Speaker 3: little finders fee. Euro tour guy going behind the back
Speaker 3: of the euro tour, trying to get live into Valdorama,
Speaker 3: Valderama into live and take a little cut little finders fee.
Speaker 3: Off the top of it was what I had heard
Speaker 3: last week from someone across stafon the hyphen the old
Speaker 3: hyphen talk about four a guys, although he got pretty higher,
Speaker 3: higher up in the world rankings, but.
Speaker 4: Sounds like though was it? Was it all because of
Speaker 4: the points dilemma?
Speaker 3: My one other last pick bone to pick with the
Speaker 3: Jedda not bone, but observation of the live broadcast. They
Speaker 3: love love doing the social interruptions. Look who's watching from where?
Speaker 3: Here's my shot? And I think not I would never
Speaker 3: tell us to disrupt or sort of hacking it. This
Speaker 3: could be an opportunity for a fan vote Friday situation
Speaker 3: for all the fun live golf fans out there, shotgunners,
Speaker 3: just enthusiasts. Maybe next broadcast we start, you know, because
Speaker 3: I think this is just red meat. As soon as
Speaker 3: you tweet at them with a picture, you're set up.
Speaker 3: You're making that broadcast. So I don't know if we
Speaker 3: want to have a little fun with that next time around.
Speaker 3: I'm not be respectful, be honest, but maybe that's the
Speaker 3: way you get in there. Maybe we can have a
Speaker 3: little shotguns start fun with the like we did a
Speaker 3: fan of Friday. Be an equal opportunity disruptor uh and
Speaker 3: and have the people's voice be heard on the broadcast.
Speaker 3: If you want to show your setup to live golf
Speaker 3: watching from Valderama, watching from wherever. They just do that NonStop.
Speaker 3: Are people interested in that? Here's a picture of someone's
Speaker 3: grainy shitty picture TV.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's always dogs.
Speaker 3: Oh this this this person has a TV. Now, this
Speaker 3: person has a TV and they're watching. It's just it's
Speaker 3: just Philly there, all right. Anything else on the broadcast?
Speaker 4: No, you know, here's the thing.
Speaker 5: I it just sucks watching Brooks duel with like Peter
Speaker 5: you line. These guys shouldn't be in the same tournament,
Speaker 5: that's the thing.
Speaker 4: They shouldn't even be in.
Speaker 5: The same place ever, and here they are every week and.
Speaker 4: Peter you line is like one of the best players
Speaker 4: on LIM. What a joke.
Speaker 3: He's playing really well there for about three or four weeks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 3: It it it's in dighting of Live, right, I mean
Speaker 3: it's kind of it's not a good look for Live
Speaker 3: that that you line is just rocketing up there.
Speaker 5: How about how they have all these bonuses but no,
Speaker 5: they made that graphic of Brooks and and uh and
Speaker 5: Peter u line, but they have no no like standings
Speaker 5: for the Player of the Year race, you know.
Speaker 4: Point they're talking about all this funny.
Speaker 3: They Yeah, none of it makes Yeah, it's all just
Speaker 3: week to week making it up on the fly. Do
Speaker 3: you make of anything of Kepka for this win? You
Speaker 3: make anything that That eighteenth all sucks? I'm sorry. As
Speaker 3: a playoff, that was terrible. Everybody just hit it right,
Speaker 3: hit it right, hit it right. You got whatever you
Speaker 3: got to twenty to forty somewhere in there. And you know,
Speaker 3: I know, some guys found some interesting life and stuff
Speaker 3: that everybody would just hit it right and then get
Speaker 3: up and down. For Bertie, he's very He was emotional after,
Speaker 3: although I would say it was like basically the exact
Speaker 3: same speech we got after he won his last Phoenix Open,
Speaker 3: which was a February of last year, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: where he was like, right, I mean I was in
Speaker 3: some dark places. I didn't know if I was going
Speaker 3: to play again, so it wasn't I thought the live
Speaker 3: broadcast tried to spin that as like this was some
Speaker 3: sort of momentous validation, when quite honestly, it was the
Speaker 3: exact same speech, almost to the note that he gave
Speaker 3: after he won on the PGA Tour, like at the
Speaker 3: dark times and he was, he was emotional and jedda
Speaker 3: first for sure. I just I don't really know. It's
Speaker 3: similar to Eugenio Chikara, like if on a different plane, right,
Speaker 3: they're in different classes in their career. But I don't
Speaker 3: know what to assign it to Brooks. Is he off
Speaker 3: the schneid. Is he now a top ten player in
Speaker 3: the world again when he hasn't been.
Speaker 4: He was very impressive.
Speaker 5: In the last round, Like the whole round you kind
Speaker 5: of were like, well, all right, when are you going
Speaker 5: to dispatch of Peter Uli?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't. He didn't play well.
Speaker 4: The whole thing is just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the emotion was sort of like
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm here still, like this is what
Speaker 3: I'm celebrating. I'm sure he was happy, he won won
Speaker 3: a lot of money. It's just like this ana dyne
Speaker 3: unnatural weird scene, Like they had the aerial whatever drone going,
Speaker 3: and it's just I mean, it's a desert that doesn't
Speaker 3: they shouldn't have.
Speaker 4: Any There shouldn't have been any aerial coverage.
Speaker 3: And I got this like what's on the other side
Speaker 3: of that wall, like, oh, it's just a wasteland and
Speaker 3: maybe some other stuff going. I don't like, it's just
Speaker 3: a weird scene. And I saw even the most die
Speaker 3: hard live folks kind of open the admitting that like
Speaker 3: no one was there, no one seemed to care. They're like.
Speaker 4: Their argument.
Speaker 3: I think it was like Barry Henson was like, well,
Speaker 3: they're trying to they're working on it, they're growing. Nobody's there,
Speaker 3: but they're growing. It's getting more interests. Like I don't
Speaker 3: even know, that's not like the point of what they're doing.
Speaker 3: They're not trying to make golf popular in Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 3: Like they're like, that's not gonna happen. Does not become
Speaker 3: a big golf They may want other people to come
Speaker 3: there and play golf, they may want to become a
Speaker 3: golf destination, but like, golf's never going to become It's
Speaker 3: not gonna be like Hilton Head where there's just like
Speaker 3: everybody there is a golf nut. And I just don't
Speaker 3: think the tournament's ever going to like draw like that. Obviously,
Speaker 3: it's not gonna it's not gonna get crowds. So in
Speaker 3: terms of Brooks, it's just it was just a weird scene.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to assign it. A lot of
Speaker 3: what wait to assign it. Like last week he's beating
Speaker 3: Peter you Line with sort of sketchy play, but congrats
Speaker 3: to him on his big cash payout. So he's also
Speaker 3: talking about how pissed off and how much it sucks
Speaker 3: that he's found his game, but like there's nothing left
Speaker 3: to play for really outside of like Miami. It's like
Speaker 3: the worst time of the year to do it, which
Speaker 3: makes you wonder. I mean, I don't know he found
Speaker 3: his game at the right times in those years twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen through twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: Right here, here's a question, a big a question. This
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with live. Do you think do
Speaker 5: you foresee golf ever not being a twelve month a
Speaker 5: year sport.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, just because people are going to
Speaker 3: try to squeeze every last dollar out of somewhere some
Speaker 3: global other market. That's you know, now is the time
Speaker 3: we go to Now we're going to go to Australia.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna go to the Middle East.
Speaker 5: So with that answer of mind, because I would generally
Speaker 5: agree with that, how dumb is it that we have
Speaker 5: like four months of majors? Well it's over, yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean to Brooks's commentary, right like should we if it
Speaker 5: doesn't seem like golf's ever going to get away from
Speaker 5: being a twelve month year sport. And as much as
Speaker 5: the top players want, say they want it not to
Speaker 5: be a twelve month of year sport, they graciously turn
Speaker 5: and play golf for lots of money.
Speaker 4: You know they they are in a way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't say no, look at the field for
Speaker 5: Tiger's hero, there's still you know that that field is
Speaker 5: always going to have the best players of the world,
Speaker 5: you know, because they play for a lot of money.
Speaker 5: So my question would be, like, with Brooks's comments in mind,
Speaker 5: are the majors being so jammed together and not spread
Speaker 5: out over an entire year knowing that the full well
Speaker 5: that the golf year is a full year.
Speaker 3: Feels like you're trying to take another shot at Marco
Speaker 3: Mira for like how he I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not, But like the thing is like it's actually
Speaker 5: not like a great representation of because people get hot
Speaker 5: at different times and when golf, when golf was like
Speaker 5: a more you know, January through September activity at the
Speaker 5: professional level, this schedule makes sense more sense now that
Speaker 5: it is a you know, January to January every year,
Speaker 5: January through December. I think it like, I don't even
Speaker 5: with this whole summit, with the Rory and Tiger Summit,
Speaker 5: those twenty events are going to be spread out through
Speaker 5: the year. I don't think there's any way they're going
Speaker 5: to be able to consolidate out some of the events.
Speaker 4: Based like January, Like, what are they going to do?
Speaker 4: What are they going to do with Zozo right?
Speaker 5: What are they gonna do with the c J Cup
Speaker 5: because like they either have to like abandon them or
Speaker 5: not do them.
Speaker 4: And at this point I think that.
Speaker 5: You should really I and this is not this is
Speaker 5: just I just thought of this when when you said
Speaker 5: Brooks's comments, because like it is silly that if you're
Speaker 5: if you're game's right now, you have nothing to play
Speaker 5: for it when it's a twelve month a year sport.
Speaker 3: I get the pain point you're you're highlighting, but I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't what's the solution. I mean, you're not You're
Speaker 3: not adding more majors, right, Obviously we don't want to
Speaker 3: add more majors. We already are anti players for that.
Speaker 5: You move the p Yeah, here's by here would be
Speaker 5: bye bye Q one. You have one in each quarter
Speaker 5: Q one pg A. But it can't be the PGA.
Speaker 5: It has to they have to rebrand Professional Golfers of
Speaker 5: the World.
Speaker 4: Yeah, would need to be called like the PGA of
Speaker 4: the World whatever, not of America.
Speaker 5: But then it's like you host it in in Australia.
Speaker 5: You know different places you could host that time of year,
Speaker 5: particularly the Southern Hemisphere because you get the long daylight.
Speaker 5: Then you have the Masters Q two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, then you have the first ten
Speaker 3: days of Q two.
Speaker 5: Well, that's fine, we're gonna use to We're gonna have
Speaker 5: two in Q two, all right, all right, you have
Speaker 5: then you have the uh, the US Open, and then
Speaker 5: you move back the open to to like September, first
Speaker 5: week of September, one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Fifty six players. They have enough daylight for I don't know,
Speaker 3: probably longer, I don't know, just a thought. Interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's interesting that that they're more consolidated than ever. Just
Speaker 3: to rose bitched about this. You know, the first time
Speaker 3: they when they moved the PJ to May, it's.
Speaker 4: Like, then move the players to November.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do that. I mean, or you just
Speaker 3: like if you're a world top like legendary player, you
Speaker 3: sack up and play when you know you're supposed to
Speaker 3: be playing well, like I don't know, like like NBA
Speaker 3: players know they got to bring it in May and June.
Speaker 3: They've got to be ready. That's when they have to
Speaker 3: play their best.
Speaker 5: I just think that this would make the calendar more relevant.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you. I never know what to
Speaker 3: do with this whole part of the year, but I
Speaker 3: understand Brooks's frustration. At least he doesn't have the equipment
Speaker 3: deal where he has to if he finally finds it
Speaker 3: in October, he has to just put in a new
Speaker 3: driver as soon as well.
Speaker 4: He's got the deal. Now he's a strick shown.
Speaker 3: No, I think they broke that up. I think that
Speaker 3: may up. Yeah, when he left, I think that left
Speaker 3: so Hey. One more thing about Brooks. We never got
Speaker 3: to him last week saying I don't like fence guys
Speaker 3: who ride the fence about the owgr like either do
Speaker 3: it or not, Like get out of here with that.
Speaker 3: He is the worst quotes about fence riders like didn't
Speaker 3: you do that with live like for like a couple
Speaker 3: of months and then like bail and say you were
Speaker 3: like basically going to like be a part of an
Speaker 3: inner circle. It's advising Jay Monahan on guys were staying
Speaker 3: and loyalists and then all of a sudden you were gone.
Speaker 3: I don't know he's guy straddled the fence for a
Speaker 3: while anyways, but congrass to him on his lift. Jeta
Speaker 3: Wind can put that in the trophy case next to
Speaker 3: the US Open. I was wondering if they're putting this
Speaker 3: on these guys. Wikipedia pages looks like they are starting
Speaker 3: to do that. So I don't know if that makes
Speaker 3: some owgr worthy or not. But all right, elsewhere in
Speaker 3: the world, do you have any other Jedi thoughts? I mean,
Speaker 3: Ina cut you off there it was. It was a.
Speaker 4: Jedi thoughts.
Speaker 3: I did watch a good amount of it on Sunday morning.
Speaker 4: But that was it.
Speaker 3: Their graphics are really good, I would say, the way
Speaker 3: they keep it moving with that that leaderboard and jump
Speaker 3: around the pylon. Yeah, is that what that is? What
Speaker 3: they call it officially the pielone? Okay. Elsewhere in the
Speaker 3: world of golf, Adrian O'tagway wins the volve Man all
Speaker 3: five vos ae I, oh and you all in that
Speaker 3: last name. Adrian O'tagway wins by six over Yakam lager
Speaker 3: In at Valderama smokes it. He was so he was
Speaker 3: a live guy, but not a contract guy. Is that
Speaker 3: what it was? Got an invite to some of them
Speaker 3: and then didn't sign the contract. I wonder.
Speaker 4: What's his standing? Can he play in the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 3: There was great? Right? I think he's still eligible? Right,
Speaker 3: I think he's okay? There was great, Like conspiracy Theorist
Speaker 3: Lee Westy said the euro Tour was trying to bury
Speaker 3: him and not celebrate him, like because he had played
Speaker 3: and lived, Like why don't you call him by his name?
Speaker 3: Like every tweet had to have like his name in
Speaker 3: the in the text as opposed to the link and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I I couldn't tell you. It didn't
Speaker 3: seem like they were trying to purposely, or nor could
Speaker 3: they if they wanted to, just not talk about the
Speaker 3: guy who won the events is.
Speaker 5: Putting on the tenfoil hat.
Speaker 3: He is, he's getting into I say he was having
Speaker 3: a back and forth with dam and Lynch the other week.
Speaker 3: Just a lot going on with Westy on Twitter. So
Speaker 3: he wins at Valderama future site of Live maybe sounds
Speaker 3: like On the women's side of things, we had Lexi
Speaker 3: Thompson wins the Ramco Team Series, which is technically a
Speaker 3: let event. I saw a headline somewhere that Lexi Thompson
Speaker 3: ends three year drought with when I just don't think
Speaker 3: that counts. I don't think. I don't I know they
Speaker 3: get some great fielder people, people get on us or
Speaker 3: why don't you talk about a Ramco like the way
Speaker 3: you do live? Like I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's on TV. I don't think it's broadcast.
Speaker 3: Is it even streamed? I know they, I know they
Speaker 3: pay a lot of money. All the top women dabble
Speaker 3: with it or at least fully subscribe to all of them.
Speaker 3: Nelly plays Lexi one Lydia Coe's played. I think, like,
Speaker 3: does anyone care? Does anyone even know what it is?
Speaker 3: No one's like they they email us like press releases
Speaker 3: every ten seconds. They play them like in New York,
Speaker 3: they play them in the States like close by to
Speaker 3: a lot of mark I just I don't think anyone
Speaker 3: cares or know what it knows what it is, and
Speaker 3: I think it's penetrated zero like beyond like the normal
Speaker 3: LPGA schedule. So that's that's my I just if it's
Speaker 3: like a sportswa washing attempt. Yeah, of course, like the
Speaker 3: women should be condemned just as much as the men
Speaker 3: if if they're taking that money. Lexi of course was
Speaker 3: very quick to be grateful and praise the Saudi's and
Speaker 3: the forgetting involved. Of course, their agent is also Bryson's agent.
Speaker 3: That agency is GSSE, which has done really well with Live.
Speaker 3: So I just I don't have a strong reaction to
Speaker 3: the RAMCO because it doesn't seem to have any penetration
Speaker 3: into the larger golf world at all, any kind of
Speaker 3: a fact.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the I think when whenever live, if
Speaker 5: they do, when they do, it sounds like they're going
Speaker 5: to launch a women's golf league.
Speaker 4: I think they're all going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that could happen. Yes, all all of them are going.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just not the They can't hold the
Speaker 3: line like the PGA Torquae, nor do they have the
Speaker 3: sort of infrastructure and reserves to do so. So that's
Speaker 3: your Ramco. Anything else from this episode, those are your
Speaker 3: results from the weekend.
Speaker 4: We're not waiting until the end of the sas.
Speaker 3: That's going on right now. Who's winning?
Speaker 5: I don't know so so AlCH no, here's here's on
Speaker 5: the TV.
Speaker 4: Actually, no, come on.
Speaker 3: I have friends Couples.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's trying to end a five year drought.
Speaker 3: He's up six, so he's gonna end it.
Speaker 4: He won, He did win.
Speaker 3: Fred Couples is won. Breaking news beat Alca by six.
Speaker 3: Breaking news. Congrats to Freddy.
Speaker 4: Big year for Freddy, A final round sixty. Holy cow, wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, good stuff. All right, that does it. I got
Speaker 3: some feedback on the fields event. It sounds like we
Speaker 3: have some wake Forest people coming, got some Auburn people coming. Uh,
Speaker 3: you can sign up at the Friday events page.
Speaker 4: I'll be there.
Speaker 3: Flights to Atlanta or you know, we got Uga tennis See.
Speaker 3: That's Saturday. I think CBS is going to claim that one, now,
Speaker 3: just a hodge. I was hoping they wouldn't and it
Speaker 3: would have drop the ESPN at night. But it seems
Speaker 3: like CBS is probably going to claim that one, and
Speaker 3: we may not be able to get to Athens for it,
Speaker 3: but we'll see if if you're I mean, participants may
Speaker 3: be able to get out of there, get to the
Speaker 3: fields and get up to Athens for Uga Tennessee. But
Speaker 3: uh yeah, b drag, you'll be there. They'll be giving
Speaker 3: out stuff.
Speaker 4: College Michigan State.
Speaker 3: No one asked to come back to Illinois football.
Speaker 4: Top ten maybe by then, No, No, they won't. They
Speaker 4: got they could they they.
Speaker 5: Nobody Nebraska they gotta buy and then they got Nebraska.
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. What what could be happening here? You play Michigan,
Speaker 3: Huh play Michigan.
Speaker 5: They're just still I you know, I asked the same
Speaker 5: question Brendan, if the if the line I somehow run
Speaker 5: the table.
Speaker 4: Are they in this the FP?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, they're gonna put a No.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I guess they have to
Speaker 4: be in Ohio state.
Speaker 3: They have to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got the number one defense in the country.
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. But anyways, come to the fields
Speaker 3: events sign up. We're running get lower on spots.
Speaker 4: But we got down there, got Bama Bama l s
Speaker 4: U two that week. I know, I know that'll probably
Speaker 4: be a night game.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I bet CBS takes Georgiatown.
Speaker 5: Wake Forest is playing in NC state. That'll be a
Speaker 5: good matchup.
Speaker 3: It's a great matchup. We do have some Wake guys comings.
Speaker 3: That's what they're asking for drafty stuff. All right, we'll
Speaker 3: see you down there.
Speaker 4: Every state, Texas. That's a good game.
Speaker 3: Pretty good game, yeah, everyone, and enjoy screens up Clemson
Speaker 3: Notre Dame.
Speaker 4: See if the if the Irish shirt will lose another one?
Speaker 4: How about that losten to Stanford.
Speaker 3: Stanford and Marshall. I guess have no FBS wins. I
Speaker 3: think I saw another day, so not good.
Speaker 5: We got tears for South Bend. Anyways, everybody enjoy Are
Speaker 5: you crying for South Bend?
Speaker 3: I have no comment on South It's they have great
Speaker 3: social media off season content. They won the off season
Speaker 3: with some of their hype videos and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Doing well. But yeah, so all right, everyone enjoy your Mondays.
Speaker 3: Good luck to the Guardians tonight. Respect the Yankees, great franchise.
Speaker 4: Are you gonna watch the Guardians?
Speaker 3: I struggle. I struggle with watching. I get nervous. I
Speaker 3: don't like I'd like to turn away, quite honestly, I
Speaker 3: like to walk her up pace around the room. They'll
Speaker 3: do some laps.
Speaker 4: Not watch.
Speaker 3: If they do well when I'm not watching, then I'll
Speaker 3: just like just find chores to do and do other
Speaker 3: stuff because of superstition and my own mental issues. But yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll see. Maybe I'll watch. I get anxious watching playoff baseball.
Speaker 3: Good luck to them. Good luck to the Yankees too.
Speaker 3: I don't want to Yankees respect. I'm not trying to
Speaker 3: stir up the stripped the bulletin board. They were, they were,
Speaker 3: they were crushing the ball last night. All right, good everyone,
Speaker 3: enjoy your Mondays. We'll be back with you on Wednesday.
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Speaker 4: J Cup, we c J C J J PLAQ and
Speaker 4: uh at congaree and.
Speaker 3: Start getting your setups ready for how you watch lift
Speaker 3: golf see if you can get in there. We'll be
Speaker 3: We'll keep our eye open taking it all in for R.
Speaker 4: Low.
Speaker 3: All right, talk to you guys Wednesday,