WEBVTT - Hot Takes Week

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy, you want to be happy for Dake Edith

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<v Speaker 2>state is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoo whoom? And now then and Tye, welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the solid verbal. Boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining me is always over there back in New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>my man Dan Ruberstein, Sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this one of the latest solid verbals we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>recorded outside of a post national championship situation?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow? It is nine to forty Eastern time on my

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<v Speaker 1>clock right now. It's certainly one of the later shows world. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't usually stay up this late on.

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<v Speaker 2>A school night, so this will either go to a

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<v Speaker 2>punchy place or hopefully you're listening to this as you

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<v Speaker 2>go asleep and we just drift off with you to coast.

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<v Speaker 1>Figured i'd give you a little extra pause there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. No, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the runway you gave me. No, it is

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<v Speaker 2>certainly one of the later shows we've done, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually pretty happy about it because I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>fill my belly, so I can't I can't say I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hungry went to You've never been to this place? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Prince Street Pizza in Manhattan in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not. It's the best square slice in New York. Nice,

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<v Speaker 2>it totally completely has went there with our pal Andy Staples.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in town for the SI NFL Draft Show. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also participating in this live NFL Draft show. If you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be listening to this Thursday, whatever tomorrow's date is,

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<v Speaker 2>what the twenty fifth, twenty fifth, Yeah, seven thirty eight o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>tune on into SI now on the Twitter feed or

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<v Speaker 2>their YouTube channeled. I think it's gonna be in a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of places. Facebook, you know how it works, So

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm social media. I'm going to be cooking food

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<v Speaker 2>with Andy Staples. And when people like Daniel Jones or

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Locke are drafted, and we'll the ones to say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing about those two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right, not like the greatest college and somebody, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can speak truth with the power, because the Giants are

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<v Speaker 1>totally drafting Daniel Jones and it's gonna bother.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, but it's oh, that's gonna be a rough pick.

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<v Speaker 2>If that happens, that's gonna happen. Everybody's listening to this

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<v Speaker 2>after the facts, Oh yeah, wow, what a what a pick?

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna happen. Man, I can field in my bones.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that take exists within your brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I no, wow, I can't get rid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a special show tonight, though. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>special show tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as we said last week, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the thing where we invite a draftnick on the

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<v Speaker 1>program and say who's going to go third in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of folks do that. There's nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>doing that. We have done that for umpteen years running now.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem with that is nobody really wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go on the record with where guys are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get drafted because they know the overwhelming majority of their

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<v Speaker 1>predictions will be rendered moot in the span of about

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<v Speaker 1>three hours. So this year we're gonna go at it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit differently. We're going to try and peel

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<v Speaker 1>back the curtain after the fact, do a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a draft retrospective with a special guest that we're excited about.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, we'll do that at some point. Yeah, over

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple weeks after the draft actually goes through

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<v Speaker 1>and is complete for tonight though.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, there's a lot after that. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I am very curious about you hear about Nick Saban

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<v Speaker 2>opening up, you know, rolling out the red carpet for

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<v Speaker 2>NFL scouts, because why wouldn't he You know, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>great when Alabama produces all these NFL players. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>the relationship and how scouts operate within the college football world.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight, we're doing hot takes, Dan, We're doing hot takes

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<v Speaker 1>now for those who have listened to the program since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight when we first got this whole

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<v Speaker 1>operation started. Neither you nor I are particularly hot Takesie.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't like Wip and Philly, Okay. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do a show that entertains from the college football perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time offers real factual insight into

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on, sometimes better than others.

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<v Speaker 2>Also a fashion advice for husky gentlemen, don't forget that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a corner that is part of our show. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to Andy, tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get a little bit more controversial than usual.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to call it that, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>kick it up or not kick it up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit here, I've got some other sounds that

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<v Speaker 1>we might play, depending on the spiciness of the take.

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<v Speaker 1>We did go out on Twitter at saliverbo where of

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<v Speaker 1>course you can always find us and follow us and

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<v Speaker 1>join the log and all the college football fun. We

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<v Speaker 1>did a little bit of crowdsource seem to see what

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<v Speaker 1>other hot takes may exist in the college football world. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if our takes are nearly well.

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<v Speaker 2>We had envisioned giving our twenty nineteen takes when we

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<v Speaker 2>were doing our haphazard planning of this show, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you opened it up to the verballers out there the

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<v Speaker 2>VERBALI sphere, sure, and I think theirs are better. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they went in back in time. It was like nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety three Virginia was a fraud, and I was like, wait, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, Wikipedia, help me out here. But they they're

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<v Speaker 2>all over the place, and I almost think going through

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<v Speaker 2>the should we like devise a spice level for these

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<v Speaker 2>these takes or something like should there be mild, medium,

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<v Speaker 2>hot and then atomic or like Jay Paterno's take HD.

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<v Speaker 1>When I go to the Thai restaurant down the road here,

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<v Speaker 1>before I order my pad tie with chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, what a creative order, I know. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>look at this guy. It's okay, don't be straight out

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<v Speaker 2>at shang my here.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever I go to the tie restaurant, they ask me

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<v Speaker 1>level of spice on a scale from one to five,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I guess we could we could approach it

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I usually go too. For those of you wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have some other sounds here that we could

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<v Speaker 1>play as well, if we want to go through some

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones that we got from the internet as

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<v Speaker 1>well as some of the ones that we put together

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<v Speaker 1>on our own. I'll agree with you that they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>quite as good as some of the ones that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw coming through on the Twitter sphere. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I have some predictions, I guess some takes

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<v Speaker 1>for the twenty nineteen season that I'd be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's save that for the end. Let's just

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<v Speaker 2>go through here in a very random fashion and just

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<v Speaker 2>evaluate people's takes. Are you good?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm ready? Okay, what do we got?

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<v Speaker 2>Tua is slightly overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>To a tongue of Iloa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this comes to us from a a Georgia fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're shocked to hear that. Sure, Actually, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Jake fromm is very good, but Tua is slightly overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the collective rating of him is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Tua last season, yeah, completed sixty nine percent of his

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<v Speaker 1>passes and finished with forty three touchdowns and six interceptions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pretend that he didn't play on

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best teams in college football. Of course

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<v Speaker 1>he did. He had a ton of support around him.

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<v Speaker 1>But on the heels of what he did in the

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<v Speaker 1>National championship game against Georgia, that game, you remember that game,

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<v Speaker 1>that second half game, I do on the heels of

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<v Speaker 1>him doing that to come out this past season was

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<v Speaker 1>a little nicked up down the stretch. It is really

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<v Speaker 1>really difficult for me to call that person overrated. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns to six interceptions is a hell of a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty fourteen TCU would have won the National championship had

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<v Speaker 2>they made the playoff. If you remember, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty one to forty eight year with Baylor.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the twenty fourteen TCU team, Trevon Boykin I believe

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<v Speaker 2>was their starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they make and win? I don't think they're beating

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, Probably don't. I don't even think they're beating God,

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<v Speaker 2>are they beating sims Alabama? I don't think they are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. That was a really good TCU team. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a really good TCU team. They finished. This

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen TCU team finished with the I'm going by

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<v Speaker 2>S and P plus here, ninth overall S and P

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<v Speaker 2>seventeenth offense, thirteenth defense. I think that's good. That Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>team was still excellent. The Ohio State team was so strong,

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<v Speaker 2>and the best quarterback in the country was at Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>that year. The hes winning the heis winning QB and

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Mariota. I just I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, Well, you mentioned TCU and that joke.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's I think it's a one point five

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<v Speaker 2>out of five, one point five out of five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll give it the Emerald. This was a little much,

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit ill would have been. You mentioned TCU

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to link that up with another take

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw coming through. We had a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>these referencing a per motion slash relegation system in college football.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that? Now? Of course, it's hypothetical,

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<v Speaker 1>completely theoretical. Would drop a nuclear bomb on the existing

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<v Speaker 1>system of college football, would effectively end the sport as

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<v Speaker 1>we know it and spawn something new. How do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you'd have to change everything. You'd have to the

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<v Speaker 2>conferences wouldn't exist in the same way. TV deals wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be structured. I'm talking about this from like an actual

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<v Speaker 2>reality point of view. I'm totally fine with it. I

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<v Speaker 2>am totally fine with it from a competitive standpoint, because

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<v Speaker 2>each conference has two to three schools who, if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not dedicated to football, the people running those schools have

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<v Speaker 2>no clue as to how to build and sustain even

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl eligible ish programs, and so it's a waste of

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's time. And not that it doesn't happen in other sports.

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<v Speaker 2>The bottom of the NBA isn't all that good. The

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<v Speaker 2>bottom of baseball we have teams tanking. I guess in

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<v Speaker 2>baseball now that there are teams that are just inept

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a waste of everybody's time, especially when we

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<v Speaker 2>have now a good handful of G five schools who

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<v Speaker 2>would compete week in and week out. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>win conferences, but would compete and be interesting and play.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they had they run styles on offense and

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<v Speaker 2>defense that are interesting watches and would give us something

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<v Speaker 2>better than Kansas, Oregon State, Rutgers, the past couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years of North Carolina. It is just Louisville from last

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<v Speaker 2>year where you're just tuning in, You're like, oh cool,

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<v Speaker 2>it's forty seven to three at halftime. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>want no part of that being a part of our ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 2>I want as many good games as possible. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is a way that if we were to completely upend everything,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think it solves three problems. So what we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about when we talk about promotion and relegation, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Yeah, to give you the abridged description of

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<v Speaker 1>what this is, it's like English soccer where they've got

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<v Speaker 1>several divisions. The best teams are in the top division,

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<v Speaker 1>the Premier League. The bottom I guess would be League Two.

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<v Speaker 1>But a certain number of teams that finish a top

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<v Speaker 1>their respective divisions get promoted to the division above, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom three or bottom two I forget the exact

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<v Speaker 1>number get relegated down to the division below. So it

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<v Speaker 1>gives everyone some impetus to try and win their division.

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<v Speaker 1>It certainly makes things interesting come the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, within a college football sense, And of course

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<v Speaker 1>this would never happen, but it would solve three problems.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a team like a North Texas. We like

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<v Speaker 1>North Texas, they're on the right track, but North Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is in technically the same division if you will, as Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>they will never get a shot at the same trophy

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<v Speaker 1>as Alabama. And effectively they are competing, of course for

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<v Speaker 1>a conference championship. But beyond on that really a consolation prize,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to just get one sip from that chalice of

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<v Speaker 1>the new year six excuse me. It would give a

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<v Speaker 1>team like that a chance to play up, to build

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<v Speaker 1>themselves up, to get promoted to as high division as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe give someone like a Seth latrelle more impetus

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around to ride this thing out to see

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<v Speaker 1>if you get his team built up into a higher division.

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<v Speaker 1>It also partially would solve the issue of unbalanced schedules,

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<v Speaker 1>and I say unbalanced from the perspective of some teams

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<v Speaker 1>playing really difficult schedules, other teams playing more cream puffs.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're all playing each other with indivision, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of solves at least one of the issues we have

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<v Speaker 1>within college football now. And then the final point here

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly, is it decouples promotion as we understand it

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<v Speaker 1>from conference realignment, which is when you mentioned TCU. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what jogged my memory. TCU effectively got promoted in the

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<v Speaker 1>current system due to being accepted by the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>They can now play for that highest trophy because they're

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Twelve. I don't like the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it's set up the way it's set up, and that

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<v Speaker 1>a team like a North Texas will never have a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at that trophy because they're not in a Power five.

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting topic. Certainly hypothetical, very theoretical, will never happen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am a huge proponent and a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>that idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You get a one wayland Frank Nick Saban has won

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<v Speaker 2>his last national championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So the evidence to that is one it's incredibly difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to win a national championship two Clemson and Georgia talent wise,

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<v Speaker 2>along with arguably Ohio State, although it's a different story

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<v Speaker 2>with a new coach, so it's hard to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everybody's on the same page. Everything is simpatico.

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<v Speaker 2>But Georgia and Clemson are arguably surpassing, if not on

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<v Speaker 2>that same level, and somehow have a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>momentum and juice on the recruiting field, even if Alaba

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<v Speaker 2>is still pulling in ridiculous class.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold on one second, Yeah, Georgia is surpassing Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Talent wise, not results wise. Yes, what Georgia has done

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<v Speaker 2>these past couple of years, Yeah, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they're at those classes. You gotta do it consistently, year

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<v Speaker 2>in and year out. For totally with you. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you right now, there are people who smart, people not me,

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<v Speaker 2>not you, who are saying things. They're whispering tie, Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>is there, and if they're not there, they're right behind them,

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<v Speaker 2>slimmest of margins, with the possibility when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>certain position groups and how deep they've become at them,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're they're inching ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, they're they're on the right track, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Has Nick Saban won his last national championship? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a spy y take.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's too spicy. It's not level five spicy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's at least a three and a half. Though.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been attrition proof this long, with his coaches leaving

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<v Speaker 2>year in a year out. But that doesn't last forever.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't last forever. The question is how much longer

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<v Speaker 2>is he going to coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see that he had a hip replacement and

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<v Speaker 1>he went back to work pretty much to the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean hip replacements. My mother in law had

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<v Speaker 2>one of those, and she bounced back real quick too.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's all that uncommon to recover pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>However, it really does speak to the work ethic of

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Saban. He clearly still enjoys the job. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>he enjoys doing. I don't think he's won his last

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<v Speaker 1>national championship. I think there is enough talent there to

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<v Speaker 1>sustain him for some period of time. After what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw last year with the Clemson loss, they're still clearly

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a shot at this thing. They're probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to be back in the playoff in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am optimistic, especially with Tuatunga via Loa, that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be back in that game before long

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<v Speaker 1>and have another crack at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is my rebuttal the two thousand and nine Texas team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think somebody actually had to take along these lines,

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<v Speaker 2>like if col McCoy doesn't get hurt, if yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is Robert Larkin, if col McCoy wasn't injured in the

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<v Speaker 2>Rose bult Texas, the stains of dynasty that mirrors Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>over the last decade. I don't know how that makes

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<v Speaker 2>care Gilbert better, but okay, is I think there's a

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<v Speaker 2>possibility that the manner in which Alabama lost was deflating

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where it's going to be tough to recover,

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<v Speaker 2>not to win eleven games this year, not even to

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<v Speaker 2>win the SEC. I think that's all a more than

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<v Speaker 2>reasonable bet. But I think there is going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>if it hasn't already happened, a turn point where they

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<v Speaker 2>were just unable to sustain momentum and just being drilled

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<v Speaker 2>in the National Championship Game in front of the world

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<v Speaker 2>to see qualifies as that. I'm not saying it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it qualifies as potentially that because that was

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<v Speaker 2>a huge, huge night and potentially a huge shift in

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<v Speaker 2>the power structure of the sport. I'm kind of on

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<v Speaker 2>board with this. I don't think this is the hottest

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<v Speaker 2>take actually, because I think there's truth behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand where people are coming from with that take.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's how many times before has the alb the

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<v Speaker 1>dynasty been dead.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's dead. I'm saying this is not

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<v Speaker 2>as hot as it might intend on its surface.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me give you one of my own that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a spicy one. And we've talked about it before.

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<v Speaker 1>I realize in light of the tweet, we may have

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<v Speaker 1>some new listeners to this program. Yeah, this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things that every time I bring it up,

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<v Speaker 1>you tell me I'm nuts. Every time I bring it up,

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<v Speaker 1>other people besides you also tell me I'm nuts.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with the old fumble out of

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone equaling a touchback rule. Why I have

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<v Speaker 1>zero problems with that?

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>My theory is this, not every rule in the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football is uniformly applied, especially when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone. If you intentionally ground the football normally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a loss of down unless it's in the end zone,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's a safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you hold normally, it's ten yards, except when it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone, it's safety. Correct to safety, you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually fumble the football, Dan, You can fumble the

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<v Speaker 1>football as long as you maintain possession long enough to

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<v Speaker 1>get the nose of the ball over the line, right,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's six points. Anywhere else in the field that's

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<v Speaker 1>a fumble, but down to the goal line six points.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get down to the end zone, the rules

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<v Speaker 1>are treated a little bit differently, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels more like you understand why a penalty

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<v Speaker 2>understand zone is two points. I get there's something that

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<v Speaker 2>is that makes sense about that ruling that it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>arbitrary because you could have just as easily say, let's

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<v Speaker 2>move you back to the twenty, let's move you back

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<v Speaker 2>to the ten. Let's move you back five yards behind

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<v Speaker 2>where you fumbled it there. It's it's just an arbitrary

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<v Speaker 2>decision as to change possession.

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<v Speaker 1>The end zone. Daniel just means more okay, And to that,

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<v Speaker 1>I say, hold on to the ball if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to score.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you're wrong for holding this position, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to sort of say, well, rules

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<v Speaker 2>little arbitrary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I get it, I get that, but I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>with it. In its present state.

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<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety four Penn State would hang fifty a ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four Nebraska. They would have won the head to head.

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<v Speaker 2>Come holy, Now that's a deep cut, right, So is

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<v Speaker 2>that Carrie Collins cause John Carter.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a good team.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, yep. They beat Achille Smith, Your boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Kyle Brady, Yeah, my boy, Achille Smith. You we got Carrie, got,

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<v Speaker 2>Bobby Ingram yeh, Joe Jura Vicious?

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<v Speaker 1>How about it? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the depth of that Nebraska team was so scary,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that specific system. I know you're not a

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<v Speaker 2>triple option guy, Ty, but when that thing was rolling, whoo,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd take I would I would put it at Thebraska

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<v Speaker 2>minus five and a half and I would lay those points.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy Frasier is one of the all time great college

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<v Speaker 1>football players. Yeah, tough sell for me. That's a spicy take.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, Okay, what else you got coming in?

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<v Speaker 2>We had one for that that was extreme. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>four out of five, because I don't think that's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But whatever, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Did we get from our friend Joel Klatt? Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Here we go up at the top one? The

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<v Speaker 2>game clock should not stop for first downs outside of

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<v Speaker 2>the last two minutes of each half.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you do you?

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<v Speaker 2>I go back and forth. Do you think college football

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<v Speaker 2>game should be quicker? I don't know. I like college football.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with it the way it is the only

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<v Speaker 2>time where it's rough to me. And this is just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, happenstance. You get like old cal Wazoo. You

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<v Speaker 2>get a double air raid matchup kicking off at ten

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<v Speaker 2>thirty and you're asking me, this is Eastern time. You're

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<v Speaker 2>asking me to stay up until three am.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a tough ask.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a rough ask. But beyond that, with the clock stopping,

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<v Speaker 2>with everything, what is what.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the issue with games taking as long as they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think people just want to move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the next game. They just want to see

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<v Speaker 2>they want to see the action more condensed.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we've been doing this for a while, I find

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<v Speaker 1>it very rarely that people come to us, either at

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<v Speaker 1>a live show or through email. However, and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd really like college but more if the games were quicker.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. The rent is too damn high. The games are

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<v Speaker 2>too damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Long most of the time. And I'm not saying I'm

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<v Speaker 1>against games that move quicker, but I'm just saying the

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<v Speaker 1>argument for the quicker game has never really landed with

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<v Speaker 1>me most of the time. Like you said, people would

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<v Speaker 1>just want to move on to watch other college football games, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Usually Saturday is devoted to college football.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, Joel Clyde is the one who needs

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<v Speaker 2>to find time to pee during these long games, as

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<v Speaker 2>he is an analyst in the booth. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how long commercial breaks are, but like if you

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<v Speaker 2>if you were given two minutes flat where not only

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<v Speaker 2>did you have to be back, you know, at your desk,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, but you had to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>air and talking and having high energy. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you could make that work two minutes going for probably

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<v Speaker 2>a sizeable pe.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think he's drinking water up there to keep Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course that's a lot of pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think you would be able to immediately zip

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<v Speaker 2>and go and then on a dime turn like you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like your your what your twenty yard cone drill. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where Joel's coming from. Secretly with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably I could probably pull that off seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a spit bucket? I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know this now because there's a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>say you shouldn't drink a lot of water before you

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<v Speaker 2>go to bed so you don't wake up in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the night, right, Do you think they're drinking

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<v Speaker 2>water up there? I mean, I guess you have a

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<v Speaker 2>longer commercial break between quarters, but you're not yourself if

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<v Speaker 2>you got ants in your pants, tie nor. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's some truth behind that. Number two ineligible man downfield

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<v Speaker 2>should be a one yard barrier, not three yards. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is sort of an anti RPO stance, and I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. I get it, but I like RPOs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just making an NFL rules at this point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC and SEC should play nine conference games.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we get a lot of you know, by the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the season by November. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of comparisons. Okay, does Alabama deserve to be number one?

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<v Speaker 2>Should be Ohio State, should it be USC? Should it

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<v Speaker 2>be Oklahoma whoever usc That was a joke, ty, I

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<v Speaker 2>just threw that one in there to see if people

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>were paying attention. It generally seems to even out a

0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of those top schools that we end up comparing

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>schedule pretty well out of conference. They're not, you know,

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Baylor from twenty twelve or something. Alabama's scheduled magnificently well,

0:24:31.200 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 2>LSUS scheduled terrifically well. Georgia a great schedule these past

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.560
<v Speaker 2>few years. For the most part, Clemson is scheduled up

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<v Speaker 2>with what Texas A and M and Georgia like. These

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>teams are scheduling pretty well, especially at the top, because

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 2>they know that by the end of the year, resumes

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 2>are going to be a conversation. So I haven't really

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 2>found myself thinking this, this sort of sucks that they're

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 2>only playing eight conference games because they can get away

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>with it because people show up to their games and

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 2>people watch their games on TV even when they're playing

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 2>the Citadel, even when they're playing Prairie View A and

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<v Speaker 2>M whatever, and so I guess it would be better,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't really see the case for why they should.

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes any sense, Dan, You know what can

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<v Speaker 1>be really frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so many things. I want you to be specific,

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<v Speaker 2>Ty. We have a hot take here that I think

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 2>is magnificent.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we got?

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Bama doesn't want that? UMass smoke Mike low Copo locopo. Okay,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 2>this has this brings something up in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were to rank Alabama diehard fansy one through

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>however many Alabama football fans there are in this world,

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 2>So say there are ten million Alabama fans. Okay, Number

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<v Speaker 2>one is the most diehard Alabama fan his or her life,

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 2>fully dedicated to Alabama football, calling into radio shows, on

0:28:53.680 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>every single message board, posters on their walls, their you know, clippings,

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>everywhere they live eat Alabama.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking our friend Adam Abdullah from ESPN Radio Chicago.

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, somebody like that, okay, And so that that person

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>is number one and you rank them by their diehardiness

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 2>all the way through ten million? Okay, Okay, how far

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>down would you have to go to find somebody with

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:26.239
<v Speaker 2>an equal amount of passion for U MASS Football? So like,

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>is there somebody who is as passionate about U mass

0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Football as the eight millionth most passionate Alabama fan is

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>about Alabama?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Who is the Harvey Updyke of UNE football? And

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>where would he rank on that?

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<v Speaker 2>How far down do you have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Alabama side?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, where you're just like somebody was just

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 2>fricking pumped about the Mark Whipple era. They're like, this

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 2>is the guy. How far down would you have to go?

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I maybe even percentage wise, but I'll put it out

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<v Speaker 2>of ten million.

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<v Speaker 1>You would you probably have to go? I would say

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 1>at least sixty down in that totem pol.

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 2>So six million ish? Yeah, you think there is somebody

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>as passionate about U Mass Football as the six millionth

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>most passionate Alabama fan?

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right, That's how I feel. Yeah, Okay, yeah.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I tend to think that it's an arbitrary question, but

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>there's somebody out there who has categorized and cataloged everything

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>about UMass football throughout the years.

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>That's tremendous that question. Yeah, thank you very much. Here's

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>one that came through. So we did a show. I

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know we do a show every week, but we

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>did a show recently where we talked about where I

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>said specifically that Alex Hornybrook was quote a massive upgrade

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>over James Blackman, and I caught a little bit of

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>flack on Twitter for that, I don't know, caught a

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>little bit of from who I'd rather have quarterback in

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 1>my team right now. I stay, James Blackman's gonna be

0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>broken in half. I stand by the comment. But statistically,

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>when you look at what Hornybrook has done over his

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>career versus what Blackman did in that one extended season

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that he had as a true freshman, statistically, it's pretty

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 1>similar statistically speaking, So I get the fact that someone

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>would take umbrage to the massive component of that statement.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>He may be an upgrade. He certainly provides depth. He's

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>more of a known quantity. We could talk about that

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>on some other show. I'm sure we will as the

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>season gets closer. But the take that I found nestled

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in that conversation was one particular guy who wrote in

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to say that he thought Alex Hornybrook the real reason

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 1>he was leaving Florida State is because he fashions himself

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in the future as a college football coach,

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>and that the move to Florida State was one that

0:31:56.640 --> 0:32:01.479
<v Speaker 1>could give him ample opportunity to stay all after his

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>eligibility has expired, so that he can become a GA

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and so launch his college football coaching career.

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>This is not unique to him, and I could imagine

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 2>that this was something that may have come up when

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:21.480
<v Speaker 2>Gardner Minshew, I believe, committed to Alabama from ECU originally

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that you know, the prospects weren't looking good, at least

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 2>set yourself up for the future. Rights That to me

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>is not a full stretch.

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I get that it's not a full stretch. In a

0:32:32.480 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of circumstances. However, Hornybrook was a guaranteed starter at Wisconsin.

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>He was going to be the starting quarterback. He was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the starting quarterback.

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 2>You see the guy coming in this year.

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I know he's very I know he's very good.

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>You see what Alex horneybro looked like last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, I get it. I've made fun of

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Hornybrook for the last three years. Okay, I get it.

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, guaranteed starter week one, Hornybrook.

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Is your guaranteed starter week one to leave that situation

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to go to another situation where he is potentially a backup,

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>potentially a third stringer who knows it. Just does not

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>seem like this would be one of those situations where

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he'd want to leave where he was at and go

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else because he's trying to set himself up for

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>a coaching career. I don't get it.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is not so far fetched that a

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 2>college football player is really smart and forward looking. I'm

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 2>not so far fetched. I don't like Alex Hornibrook probably

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 2>has a pretty good idea. He's not an NFL quarterback, right,

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>so so not two birds two birds tie.

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I would hope. So. By the way, people are very

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>excited about James Blackman this year.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, so I hope it works out for him.

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Where else we go, we got somebody who said that

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>had let's see I want to get the right wording here.

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 2>If Mississippi State paid Cam's father like Auburn did, they'd

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>have a title right now.

0:33:55.760 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Ooh, okay, Mississippi State didn't have Nick Fairley on that team.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Did they fight?

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have a make fairly, but this is still

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>a I think they went nine and four, it looks like,

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>including the Bowl win over Michigan. I think that was

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:14.280
<v Speaker 2>a Chris Relph team. I remember correctly, it's a pretty

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Goossissippi State team. Defensive coordinator Manny Diaz. It was his

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 2>first year there. They let's see, they don't hang with Alabama.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 2>They barely lose to a top fifteen Arkansas in double overtime.

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>They comfortably lose to LSU, and they get barely edged

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>out by a Cam Newton Auburn team, which at the

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 2>very least means early on they were very close to

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>being Auburn. Auburn did not have a particularly good defense

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 2>that year. Nick Fairley was great.

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>That was a ted Roof defense if I remember correctly,

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>which explains a lot, actually.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Does explain a lot. And the Auburn team around Cam

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>had talent Michael Dyer, Philip Watson, Kirk and there were

0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 2>guys there, but this was not a stacked team. It

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>was a one man team in a lot of ways

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>with Cam Newton. So I actually don't think this is

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>super hot. National championship is a lot to say. A

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>lot goes into that and a lot of variables, and

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, I think Auburn was probably better situated to

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:16.919
<v Speaker 2>beat Alabama than Mississippi State team with Cam. But there's

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>some there's some coolness to that. Actually, I don't think

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>it's the spiciest all right, I mean, is is Cam

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Newton that you're good for winning two more games including

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 2>he was a lost to Cam Newton, which is they're

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>probably beating Auburn right with Cam Newton instead of playing

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Cam Newton.

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I would agree with that.

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 2>So that takes them to nine regular season wins. I

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.479
<v Speaker 2>would say they're probably beating Arkansas, a team they lost

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.279
<v Speaker 2>to in two overtimes, right, Yes, agreed, So they're now

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>better than Arkansas. So now they're at ten regular season wins.

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 2>They lost by twenty two to LSU. We know Cam

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Newton had arguably the game of his life against LSU,

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>but that's certainly closer in Alabama another game of his life.

0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 2>They lose by twenty So can they go eleven and

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 2>one sneak in? Maybe? I don't know. I think I

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>think it's not the craziest thing. Although Auburn is getting

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 2>in and they didn't lose again that year, obviously, but

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Auburn is getting in with one loss ahead of Mississippi

0:36:17.040 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 2>State with one loss. Pretty clear, it seems fair. Yeah,

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 2>so the Mississippi State brand is holding them back. But

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>if they have the Heisman winning quarterback, then suddenly the

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 2>brand gets help. See spicy, it helps Let me go.

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say there's a good shot.

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't know if I feel good about it,

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>but a better shot for sure. Let me. Let me

0:36:38.680 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>throw two out at you and you tell me which

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.919
<v Speaker 1>one is spicier. Both of these came in. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>one that Michigan will beat Ohio State in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we've got another that the Pac twelve will

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<v Speaker 1>miss the playoff again in the twenty nineteen Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty season. Which is which is the spicy of those

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<v Speaker 1>two takes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Michigan beating Ohio State is way spicier.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>So you're not feeling the Pack twelve making the playoff

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>who's the Pack twelve's playoff team. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there is one. I think that.

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, who is the PAC twelve's playoff team if

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 2>they get one in? If they get one in, it's

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 2>is it Washington? I'm either Washington or Will Washington. I'm

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 2>not saying will Washington get in the playoff. I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if by chance a PAC twelve team were to make it,

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<v Speaker 2>the winner of the Pac twelve is it's either confidently

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<v Speaker 2>see it could be Stanford. I like kJ Costello plenty.

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that they lose Bryce Love or Theyga Whiteside,

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Cadence Smith, stars along the line. Yeah, not feeling I just.

0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:50.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't feel good about anybody in the PAC twelve

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 2>winning the PAC twelve. So that's a it's a pretty

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.439
<v Speaker 2>cold take to say the Pack doll's missing out again

0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 2>because I don't know who to feel good about.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Michigan side, I feel good for Michigan this year.

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 1>It's long overdue. They have won three games in the

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>last eighteen meetings with Ohio State, and that doesn't even

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>count the game they lost by thirty and twenty ten

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>when that win was vacated they get Ohio State in

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>ann Arbor this year, a lot back on offense, Gonna

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>take some time to sort out their defense, losing Rashaun Gary,

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Chase Winovich, Devin Bush, etc. Etc. But I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>in good shape. I'm excited to see what Ohio State

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:37.960
<v Speaker 1>looks like under Justin Fields and especially with Ryan Day.

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>But Ryan Day is not Urban Meyer. He could be

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<v Speaker 1>a great coach, but there's a reason that they say

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to follow a legend, and I'm curious

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to see how he manages through a full twelve games

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:51.720
<v Speaker 1>slate as opposed to three.

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<v Speaker 2>This would be a good year. I'm a believer in

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<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Haskins being exceptional and a believer in Dwayne Haskins

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>with time in that system being exceptional, being a better

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>situation than Justin Field's coming in and expected to be

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Haskins immediately. So I think it's a good year

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>for Michigan to be great and better and play like

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 2>they're better than Ohio State. Ohio State's defense should be

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>really good, especially upfront this year. I'm sure Penn State

0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>fans remember Chase Young. He's still there. He's still there.

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Tyreek Smith still there, still great. So I'm still a

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 2>believer that this should be the year. Should there be

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 2>a year ever again that Michigan beats Ohio State, it

0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 2>should be this year.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you want a really spicy take day, yeah,

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>don sandwich you. I'm so hungry. I'm so hungry to

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>close out Michigan season. They are home against Michigan State

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>aka Little Brother, then on the road in Bloomington at

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Indiana before they come back home to square off against

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 1>their hated rival Ohio State. If that Indiana game isn't

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>an all time great let down, look ahead spot, I

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know what is. I don't know how good Indiana

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>will be this year, but at least on paper in

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 1>late April, that looks pretty damn interesting to me.

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Somebody gave us there are ten teams, and only ten

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.479
<v Speaker 2>teams are right around ten. There are maybe the same

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>ten teams every year that can win a title. No

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 2>other school has or will ever have a chance. The

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 2>ap top twenty five finished as such last year, each

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 2>of which, at various points of the season were kind

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 2>of threatening. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Texas,

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 2>are the top nine. Washington State finishes number ten outside

0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 2>of that top nine in terms of teams that have

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the infrastructure, can amass the talent, put themselves in a

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:01.880
<v Speaker 2>position to sneak in and get by whatever. I think, Michigan,

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Penn State, and then I don't know Florida.

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about Oregon. I don't know about Oregon.

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Would you say after Florida State, Yeah, Florida State. I

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>think there's more than ten.

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 2>I think twelve.

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I think there's more than twelve. I think A and

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.680
<v Speaker 1>M is a team that can win a national championship. Yes, A,

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>specially under Jimbo Fisher. He will put the infrastructure in

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:27.279
<v Speaker 1>place to make West Virginia.

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>No. I mean, I would say USC should be added

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 2>to that list at their absolute best, but it's tough

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to foresee it in any sort of immediate future. UCLA,

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 2>I will say.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I think it's fifteen to twenty, somewhere in

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that range.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I think twelve to fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do one or two more?

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go, how about this one?

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Tie?

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 2>Twenty nineteen. The twenty nineteen season will be Chip Kelly's

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 2>final season as UCLA's head coach.

0:41:56.560 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Final season, final season. The only way Charles Kelly isn't

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>coaching in twenty twenty is if he leaves on his

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>own volition.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.960
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think there's any chance he's getting fired.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's any chance he's leaving. I think

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy who genuinely enjoys football.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 2>Is wanting to coach football, the same exact thing as

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>not only do I want to coach football, but I

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>want to do it for the UCLA Bruins.

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.319
<v Speaker 1>They are going to have to pry the playbook from

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 1>his dead, lifeless fingers before he'll leave.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Do you know who submitted this question this take to

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>us Dan Rubinstein in New York. I'm saying, that's my

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 2>take twenty nineteens last year. You think he's seen what

0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like to coach UCLA and we've all come to

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:48.959
<v Speaker 2>a point doing things in our lives pursuits where we've said,

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm just I'm cutting bait. This is

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.720
<v Speaker 2>not for me. I don't like where this is heading.

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a part of this. This

0:42:57.440 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>is based on no knowledge, This is based on no source,

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 2>This is based on no inside information. But I don't

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 2>think succeeding at UCLA is something that a chip Kelly

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>type will be the one to make happen. I think

0:43:14.200 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 2>a different I think a different kind of guy who

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.400
<v Speaker 2>wants whose goal forever is to be at a place

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>like UCLA, to transform a place like the UCLA. And

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I think chip Kelly is looking around at college football

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen, the recruiting, you know, playing forty five

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 2>minutes away from campus, having academic standards to deal with,

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 2>or I guess, in the case of UCLA, no standards

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 2>to deal with other than just cold hard cash. I

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 2>think I think chip Kelly takes a long, hard look

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and says, no, wow, okay, good, here's one for you. Okay,

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll close out with this. I would rather have the

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 2>first down line than HDTV. Well, what does that mean?

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>The first down? The computer generated first down? I know

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you have to pick one or the given the choice.

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Given the choice, you're taking the first down line versus hd.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.839
<v Speaker 2>WHOA, that's really good. I mean we go one play

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 2>where the graphic department doesn't spit out the line of

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 2>scrimmage and the yellow first down line, and you're in

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 2>my head, No, what sport. Am I watching? How am

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 2>I supposed to know what's going on? Meanwhile, the sport

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>on TV has been like that for ninety four percent

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>of its existence. Right, which would you rather have HGTV

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:26.760
<v Speaker 2>or the first down yellow line?

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm the one that rode I'd rather have the first

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>down line.

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I figured it was you.

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the first down line is one of the

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>greatest inventions in modern television history.

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Do you like having the field goal line? No, like

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>they need to get to this point our career long

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:46.560
<v Speaker 2>is right here for a forty seven yard er. I

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:47.879
<v Speaker 2>like doing the math in my head.

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Wait, right, with the first down line, it's not arbitrary.

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I know where they're getting that information because it's always well,

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:57.240
<v Speaker 1>it's always the same distance.

0:44:57.440 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not exact exact, but it's you know, it's close

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to on a true based on some true math.

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:04.120
<v Speaker 1>The field goal line, I always wonder if the man's

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to stick it to me, Like, where did they

0:45:05.920 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>get this information from?

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm about eleven teams, by the way, that

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 2>can win a national championship on any given year.

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:12.879
<v Speaker 1>Give me fifteen to twenty.

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>By the way. Shout out to our pal Peter Hoffman,

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 2>who has just a raging college football piece of excitement

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 2>in his pants. For Sean Gleeson, the Oklahoma State new

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator. He has hot take. Northwestern wins ten or

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 2>eleven games this year. Behind Hunter Johnson and his simmering

0:45:32.680 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>take is Oklahoma State and Shawn Gleeson's offense take the

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve by storm and win the conference.

0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Boom shack a Laco. Okay, Okay, it's.

0:45:40.440 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 2>A good year for Oklahoma State to be interesting and new.

0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure. Here's the way this works.

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<v Speaker 1>It is late. Dan is tired.

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>I am tired.

0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>As we said at the top of the show, one

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of the latest shows we've ever done talking college football.

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<v Speaker 1>we have big announcements. By the way, Dan, we do

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<v Speaker 1>have some shirts that are currently in the laboratory.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, did you get a chance to take a

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<v Speaker 2>look at one of the two?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty excited about this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped up at MoMA H's for dinner after work today. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mom h is very excited about this design.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're going to get our shirt, aren't we. We are?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I got, Dan, You take care of that instrument.

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<v Speaker 1>I will good luck on your draft show. We will

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<v Speaker 1>be back to feed my son, Go feed your son,

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<v Speaker 1>Go do your fatherly duties. We will be back in

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<v Speaker 1>a week post NFL Draft. Not sure if we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about at dinner the week after, but before long we'll

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 1>break everything down. Enjoy it. We'll have much more to

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.920
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