Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. I'm that for me, I'm
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Speaker 1: the solid verbal. Boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand.
Speaker 1: Joining me is always over there back in New York City,
Speaker 1: my man Dan Ruberstein, Sir, how are you?
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Speaker 1: Wow? It is nine to forty Eastern time on my
Speaker 1: clock right now. It's certainly one of the later shows world. Man,
Speaker 1: we don't usually stay up this late on.
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Speaker 2: go asleep and we just drift off with you to coast.
Speaker 1: Figured i'd give you a little extra pause there. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: certainly one of the later shows we've done, and I'm
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Speaker 2: I have not. It's the best square slice in New York. Nice,
Speaker 2: it totally completely has went there with our pal Andy Staples.
Speaker 2: He's in town for the SI NFL Draft Show. I'm
Speaker 2: also participating in this live NFL Draft show. If you
Speaker 2: happen to be listening to this Thursday, whatever tomorrow's date is,
Speaker 2: what the twenty fifth, twenty fifth, Yeah, seven thirty eight o'clock,
Speaker 2: tune on into SI now on the Twitter feed or
Speaker 2: their YouTube channeled. I think it's gonna be in a
Speaker 2: bunch of places. Facebook, you know how it works, So
Speaker 2: all I'm social media. I'm going to be cooking food
Speaker 2: with Andy Staples. And when people like Daniel Jones or
Speaker 2: Drew Locke are drafted, and we'll the ones to say, well,
Speaker 2: here's the thing about those two guys.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, not like the greatest college and somebody, yeah,
Speaker 1: can speak truth with the power, because the Giants are
Speaker 1: totally drafting Daniel Jones and it's gonna bother.
Speaker 2: Me, but it's oh, that's gonna be a rough pick.
Speaker 2: If that happens, that's gonna happen. Everybody's listening to this
Speaker 2: after the facts, Oh yeah, wow, what a what a pick?
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. Man, I can field in my bones.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that take exists within your brain.
Speaker 1: I no, wow, I can't get rid of it.
Speaker 2: We have a special show tonight, though. We have a
Speaker 2: special show tonight.
Speaker 1: So, as we said last week, we're not going to
Speaker 1: do the thing where we invite a draftnick on the
Speaker 1: program and say who's going to go third in the draft.
Speaker 1: A lot of folks do that. There's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: doing that. We have done that for umpteen years running now.
Speaker 1: But the problem with that is nobody really wants to
Speaker 1: go on the record with where guys are going to
Speaker 1: get drafted because they know the overwhelming majority of their
Speaker 1: predictions will be rendered moot in the span of about
Speaker 1: three hours. So this year we're gonna go at it
Speaker 1: a little bit differently. We're going to try and peel
Speaker 1: back the curtain after the fact, do a bit of
Speaker 1: a draft retrospective with a special guest that we're excited about.
Speaker 1: So well, we'll do that at some point. Yeah, over
Speaker 1: the next couple weeks after the draft actually goes through
Speaker 1: and is complete for tonight though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, there's a lot after that. Like,
Speaker 2: I am very curious about you hear about Nick Saban
Speaker 2: opening up, you know, rolling out the red carpet for
Speaker 2: NFL scouts, because why wouldn't he You know, it looks
Speaker 2: great when Alabama produces all these NFL players. I'm curious
Speaker 2: the relationship and how scouts operate within the college football world.
Speaker 2: I think that's fascinating.
Speaker 1: Tonight, we're doing hot takes, Dan, We're doing hot takes
Speaker 1: now for those who have listened to the program since
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight when we first got this whole
Speaker 1: operation started. Neither you nor I are particularly hot Takesie.
Speaker 1: This isn't like Wip and Philly, Okay. We're trying to
Speaker 1: do a show that entertains from the college football perspective,
Speaker 1: but at the same time offers real factual insight into
Speaker 1: what's going on, sometimes better than others.
Speaker 2: Also a fashion advice for husky gentlemen, don't forget that
Speaker 2: that's a corner that is part of our show. Thanks
Speaker 2: to Andy, tonight.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a little bit more controversial than usual.
Speaker 1: If you want to call it that, we're going to
Speaker 1: kick it up or not kick it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: A little bit here, I've got some other sounds that
Speaker 1: we might play, depending on the spiciness of the take.
Speaker 1: We did go out on Twitter at saliverbo where of
Speaker 1: course you can always find us and follow us and
Speaker 1: join the log and all the college football fun. We
Speaker 1: did a little bit of crowdsource seem to see what
Speaker 1: other hot takes may exist in the college football world. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if our takes are nearly well.
Speaker 2: We had envisioned giving our twenty nineteen takes when we
Speaker 2: were doing our haphazard planning of this show, and then
Speaker 2: you opened it up to the verballers out there the
Speaker 2: VERBALI sphere, sure, and I think theirs are better. I mean,
Speaker 2: they went in back in time. It was like nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety three Virginia was a fraud, and I was like, wait, huh,
Speaker 2: hold on, Wikipedia, help me out here. But they they're
Speaker 2: all over the place, and I almost think going through
Speaker 2: the should we like devise a spice level for these
Speaker 2: these takes or something like should there be mild, medium,
Speaker 2: hot and then atomic or like Jay Paterno's take HD.
Speaker 1: When I go to the Thai restaurant down the road here,
Speaker 1: before I order my pad tie with chicken.
Speaker 2: Oh, what a creative order, I know. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: look at this guy. It's okay, don't be straight out
Speaker 2: at shang my here.
Speaker 1: Whenever I go to the tie restaurant, they ask me
Speaker 1: level of spice on a scale from one to five,
Speaker 1: and so I guess we could we could approach it
Speaker 1: like that. I usually go too. For those of you wondering,
Speaker 1: I do have some other sounds here that we could
Speaker 1: play as well, if we want to go through some
Speaker 1: of the ones that we got from the internet as
Speaker 1: well as some of the ones that we put together
Speaker 1: on our own. I'll agree with you that they aren't
Speaker 1: quite as good as some of the ones that I
Speaker 1: saw coming through on the Twitter sphere. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I have some predictions, I guess some takes
Speaker 1: for the twenty nineteen season that I'd be willing to
Speaker 1: discuss as well.
Speaker 2: All right, let's save that for the end. Let's just
Speaker 2: go through here in a very random fashion and just
Speaker 2: evaluate people's takes. Are you good?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready? Okay, what do we got?
Speaker 2: Tua is slightly overrated.
Speaker 1: To a tongue of Iloa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this comes to us from a a Georgia fan.
Speaker 2: I know you're shocked to hear that. Sure, Actually, I
Speaker 2: think Jake fromm is very good, but Tua is slightly overrated.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the collective rating of him is.
Speaker 2: I think he's excellent.
Speaker 1: Tua last season, yeah, completed sixty nine percent of his
Speaker 1: passes and finished with forty three touchdowns and six interceptions.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend that he didn't play on
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in college football. Of course
Speaker 1: he did. He had a ton of support around him.
Speaker 1: But on the heels of what he did in the
Speaker 1: National championship game against Georgia, that game, you remember that game,
Speaker 1: that second half game, I do on the heels of
Speaker 1: him doing that to come out this past season was
Speaker 1: a little nicked up down the stretch. It is really
Speaker 1: really difficult for me to call that person overrated. Forty
Speaker 1: three touchdowns to six interceptions is a hell of a year.
Speaker 1: I don't care who you are.
Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen TCU would have won the National championship had
Speaker 2: they made the playoff. If you remember, this is the
Speaker 2: fifty one to forty eight year with Baylor.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So the twenty fourteen TCU team, Trevon Boykin I believe
Speaker 2: was their starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: Do they make and win? I don't think they're beating
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Probably don't. I don't even think they're beating God,
Speaker 2: are they beating sims Alabama? I don't think they are.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. That was a really good TCU team. Though.
Speaker 2: It was a really good TCU team. They finished. This
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen TCU team finished with the I'm going by
Speaker 2: S and P plus here, ninth overall S and P
Speaker 2: seventeenth offense, thirteenth defense. I think that's good. That Alabama
Speaker 2: team was still excellent. The Ohio State team was so strong,
Speaker 2: and the best quarterback in the country was at Oregon
Speaker 2: that year. The hes winning the heis winning QB and
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota. I just I don't see it.
Speaker 1: Nah, Well, you mentioned TCU and that joke.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think it's a one point five
Speaker 2: out of five, one point five out of five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll give it the Emerald. This was a little much,
Speaker 1: A little bit ill would have been. You mentioned TCU
Speaker 1: and I want to link that up with another take
Speaker 1: that I saw coming through. We had a couple of
Speaker 1: these referencing a per motion slash relegation system in college football.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Now? Of course, it's hypothetical,
Speaker 1: completely theoretical. Would drop a nuclear bomb on the existing
Speaker 1: system of college football, would effectively end the sport as
Speaker 1: we know it and spawn something new. How do you
Speaker 1: feel about that.
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to change everything. You'd have to the
Speaker 2: conferences wouldn't exist in the same way. TV deals wouldn't
Speaker 2: be structured. I'm talking about this from like an actual
Speaker 2: reality point of view. I'm totally fine with it. I
Speaker 2: am totally fine with it from a competitive standpoint, because
Speaker 2: each conference has two to three schools who, if they're
Speaker 2: not dedicated to football, the people running those schools have
Speaker 2: no clue as to how to build and sustain even
Speaker 2: Bowl eligible ish programs, and so it's a waste of
Speaker 2: everybody's time. And not that it doesn't happen in other sports.
Speaker 2: The bottom of the NBA isn't all that good. The
Speaker 2: bottom of baseball we have teams tanking. I guess in
Speaker 2: baseball now that there are teams that are just inept
Speaker 2: and it's a waste of everybody's time, especially when we
Speaker 2: have now a good handful of G five schools who
Speaker 2: would compete week in and week out. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: win conferences, but would compete and be interesting and play.
Speaker 2: You know, they had they run styles on offense and
Speaker 2: defense that are interesting watches and would give us something
Speaker 2: better than Kansas, Oregon State, Rutgers, the past couple of
Speaker 2: years of North Carolina. It is just Louisville from last
Speaker 2: year where you're just tuning in, You're like, oh cool,
Speaker 2: it's forty seven to three at halftime. I just I
Speaker 2: want no part of that being a part of our ecosystem.
Speaker 2: I want as many good games as possible. And that
Speaker 2: is a way that if we were to completely upend everything,
Speaker 2: that would be four.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it solves three problems. So what we're
Speaker 1: talking about when we talk about promotion and relegation, by
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, to give you the abridged description of
Speaker 1: what this is, it's like English soccer where they've got
Speaker 1: several divisions. The best teams are in the top division,
Speaker 1: the Premier League. The bottom I guess would be League Two.
Speaker 1: But a certain number of teams that finish a top
Speaker 1: their respective divisions get promoted to the division above, whereas
Speaker 1: the bottom three or bottom two I forget the exact
Speaker 1: number get relegated down to the division below. So it
Speaker 1: gives everyone some impetus to try and win their division.
Speaker 1: It certainly makes things interesting come the end of the year,
Speaker 1: I think, within a college football sense, And of course
Speaker 1: this would never happen, but it would solve three problems.
Speaker 1: If you're a team like a North Texas. We like
Speaker 1: North Texas, they're on the right track, but North Texas
Speaker 1: is in technically the same division if you will, as Alabama,
Speaker 1: they will never get a shot at the same trophy
Speaker 1: as Alabama. And effectively they are competing, of course for
Speaker 1: a conference championship. But beyond on that really a consolation prize,
Speaker 1: maybe to just get one sip from that chalice of
Speaker 1: the new year six excuse me. It would give a
Speaker 1: team like that a chance to play up, to build
Speaker 1: themselves up, to get promoted to as high division as possible,
Speaker 1: and maybe give someone like a Seth latrelle more impetus
Speaker 1: to stick around to ride this thing out to see
Speaker 1: if you get his team built up into a higher division.
Speaker 1: It also partially would solve the issue of unbalanced schedules,
Speaker 1: and I say unbalanced from the perspective of some teams
Speaker 1: playing really difficult schedules, other teams playing more cream puffs.
Speaker 1: If they're all playing each other with indivision, that sort
Speaker 1: of solves at least one of the issues we have
Speaker 1: within college football now. And then the final point here
Speaker 1: very quickly, is it decouples promotion as we understand it
Speaker 1: from conference realignment, which is when you mentioned TCU. That's
Speaker 1: what jogged my memory. TCU effectively got promoted in the
Speaker 1: current system due to being accepted by the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: They can now play for that highest trophy because they're
Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve. I don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: it's set up the way it's set up, and that
Speaker 1: a team like a North Texas will never have a
Speaker 1: shot at that trophy because they're not in a Power five.
Speaker 1: So interesting topic. Certainly hypothetical, very theoretical, will never happen,
Speaker 1: but I am a huge proponent and a fan of
Speaker 1: that idea.
Speaker 2: You get a one wayland Frank Nick Saban has won
Speaker 2: his last national championship.
Speaker 1: Wow wow.
Speaker 2: So the evidence to that is one it's incredibly difficult
Speaker 2: to win a national championship two Clemson and Georgia talent wise,
Speaker 2: along with arguably Ohio State, although it's a different story
Speaker 2: with a new coach, so it's hard to say that,
Speaker 2: you know, everybody's on the same page. Everything is simpatico.
Speaker 2: But Georgia and Clemson are arguably surpassing, if not on
Speaker 2: that same level, and somehow have a little bit more
Speaker 2: momentum and juice on the recruiting field, even if Alaba
Speaker 2: is still pulling in ridiculous class.
Speaker 1: Hold on one second, Yeah, Georgia is surpassing Alabama.
Speaker 2: Talent wise, not results wise. Yes, what Georgia has done
Speaker 2: these past couple of years, Yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 2: they're at those classes. You gotta do it consistently, year
Speaker 2: in and year out. For totally with you. I'm telling
Speaker 2: you right now, there are people who smart, people not me,
Speaker 2: not you, who are saying things. They're whispering tie, Georgia
Speaker 2: is there, and if they're not there, they're right behind them,
Speaker 2: slimmest of margins, with the possibility when you look at
Speaker 2: certain position groups and how deep they've become at them,
Speaker 2: that they're they're inching ahead.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, they're they're on the right track, and we.
Speaker 2: Has Nick Saban won his last national championship? Is that
Speaker 2: a spy y take.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's too spicy. It's not level five spicy.
Speaker 1: It's at least a three and a half. Though.
Speaker 2: He's been attrition proof this long, with his coaches leaving
Speaker 2: year in a year out. But that doesn't last forever.
Speaker 2: It doesn't last forever. The question is how much longer
Speaker 2: is he going to coach.
Speaker 1: I did see that he had a hip replacement and
Speaker 1: he went back to work pretty much to the next day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hip replacements. My mother in law had
Speaker 2: one of those, and she bounced back real quick too.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's all that uncommon to recover pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: However, it really does speak to the work ethic of
Speaker 1: Nick Saban. He clearly still enjoys the job. It's something
Speaker 1: he enjoys doing. I don't think he's won his last
Speaker 1: national championship. I think there is enough talent there to
Speaker 1: sustain him for some period of time. After what we
Speaker 1: saw last year with the Clemson loss, they're still clearly
Speaker 1: going to have a shot at this thing. They're probably
Speaker 1: going to be back in the playoff in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: So I am optimistic, especially with Tuatunga via Loa, that
Speaker 1: they're going to be back in that game before long
Speaker 1: and have another crack at it.
Speaker 2: Here is my rebuttal the two thousand and nine Texas team,
Speaker 2: and I think somebody actually had to take along these lines,
Speaker 2: like if col McCoy doesn't get hurt, if yeah, this
Speaker 2: is Robert Larkin, if col McCoy wasn't injured in the
Speaker 2: Rose bult Texas, the stains of dynasty that mirrors Alabama
Speaker 2: over the last decade. I don't know how that makes
Speaker 2: care Gilbert better, but okay, is I think there's a
Speaker 2: possibility that the manner in which Alabama lost was deflating
Speaker 2: to the point where it's going to be tough to recover,
Speaker 2: not to win eleven games this year, not even to
Speaker 2: win the SEC. I think that's all a more than
Speaker 2: reasonable bet. But I think there is going to be,
Speaker 2: if it hasn't already happened, a turn point where they
Speaker 2: were just unable to sustain momentum and just being drilled
Speaker 2: in the National Championship Game in front of the world
Speaker 2: to see qualifies as that. I'm not saying it is.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it qualifies as potentially that because that was
Speaker 2: a huge, huge night and potentially a huge shift in
Speaker 2: the power structure of the sport. I'm kind of on
Speaker 2: board with this. I don't think this is the hottest
Speaker 2: take actually, because I think there's truth behind it.
Speaker 1: I understand where people are coming from with that take.
Speaker 1: But it's how many times before has the alb the
Speaker 1: dynasty been dead.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's dead. I'm saying this is not
Speaker 2: as hot as it might intend on its surface.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me give you one of my own that
Speaker 1: this is a spicy one. And we've talked about it before.
Speaker 1: I realize in light of the tweet, we may have
Speaker 1: some new listeners to this program. Yeah, this is one
Speaker 1: of those things that every time I bring it up,
Speaker 1: you tell me I'm nuts. Every time I bring it up,
Speaker 1: other people besides you also tell me I'm nuts.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with the old fumble out of
Speaker 1: the end zone equaling a touchback rule. Why I have
Speaker 1: zero problems with that?
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: My theory is this, not every rule in the game
Speaker 1: of football is uniformly applied, especially when you're talking about
Speaker 1: the end zone. If you intentionally ground the football normally,
Speaker 1: it's a loss of down unless it's in the end zone,
Speaker 1: then it's a safety.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If you hold normally, it's ten yards, except when it's
Speaker 1: in the end zone, it's safety. Correct to safety, you
Speaker 1: can actually fumble the football, Dan, You can fumble the
Speaker 1: football as long as you maintain possession long enough to
Speaker 1: get the nose of the ball over the line, right,
Speaker 1: then it's six points. Anywhere else in the field that's
Speaker 1: a fumble, but down to the goal line six points.
Speaker 1: When we get down to the end zone, the rules
Speaker 1: are treated a little bit differently, but.
Speaker 2: It just feels more like you understand why a penalty
Speaker 2: understand zone is two points. I get there's something that
Speaker 2: is that makes sense about that ruling that it's it's
Speaker 2: arbitrary because you could have just as easily say, let's
Speaker 2: move you back to the twenty, let's move you back
Speaker 2: to the ten. Let's move you back five yards behind
Speaker 2: where you fumbled it there. It's it's just an arbitrary
Speaker 2: decision as to change possession.
Speaker 1: The end zone. Daniel just means more okay, And to that,
Speaker 1: I say, hold on to the ball if you want
Speaker 1: to score.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong for holding this position, but
Speaker 2: I think you have to sort of say, well, rules
Speaker 2: little arbitrary.
Speaker 1: Oh I get it, I get that, but I'm okay
Speaker 1: with it. In its present state.
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four Penn State would hang fifty a ninety
Speaker 2: four Nebraska. They would have won the head to head.
Speaker 2: Come holy, Now that's a deep cut, right, So is
Speaker 2: that Carrie Collins cause John Carter.
Speaker 1: That was a good team.
Speaker 2: They beat Oregon in the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. They beat Achille Smith, Your boy.
Speaker 2: Kyle Brady, Yeah, my boy, Achille Smith. You we got Carrie, got,
Speaker 2: Bobby Ingram yeh, Joe Jura Vicious?
Speaker 1: How about it? Man?
Speaker 2: I think the depth of that Nebraska team was so scary,
Speaker 2: and that that specific system. I know you're not a
Speaker 2: triple option guy, Ty, but when that thing was rolling, whoo,
Speaker 2: I'd take I would I would put it at Thebraska
Speaker 2: minus five and a half and I would lay those points.
Speaker 1: Tommy Frasier is one of the all time great college
Speaker 1: football players. Yeah, tough sell for me. That's a spicy take.
Speaker 1: I'd say, Okay, what else you got coming in?
Speaker 2: We had one for that that was extreme. That's a
Speaker 2: four out of five, because I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 2: But whatever, what.
Speaker 1: Did we get from our friend Joel Klatt? Dan?
Speaker 2: Oh? Here we go up at the top one? The
Speaker 2: game clock should not stop for first downs outside of
Speaker 2: the last two minutes of each half.
Speaker 1: Are you do you?
Speaker 2: I go back and forth. Do you think college football
Speaker 2: game should be quicker? I don't know. I like college football.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it the way it is the only
Speaker 2: time where it's rough to me. And this is just
Speaker 2: you know, happenstance. You get like old cal Wazoo. You
Speaker 2: get a double air raid matchup kicking off at ten
Speaker 2: thirty and you're asking me, this is Eastern time. You're
Speaker 2: asking me to stay up until three am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tough ask.
Speaker 2: That's a rough ask. But beyond that, with the clock stopping,
Speaker 2: with everything, what is what.
Speaker 1: Is the issue with games taking as long as they do.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think people just want to move
Speaker 2: on to the next game. They just want to see
Speaker 2: they want to see the action more condensed.
Speaker 1: Because we've been doing this for a while, I find
Speaker 1: it very rarely that people come to us, either at
Speaker 1: a live show or through email. However, and say, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd really like college but more if the games were quicker.
Speaker 2: Right. The rent is too damn high. The games are
Speaker 2: too damn.
Speaker 1: Long most of the time. And I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: against games that move quicker, but I'm just saying the
Speaker 1: argument for the quicker game has never really landed with
Speaker 1: me most of the time. Like you said, people would
Speaker 1: just want to move on to watch other college football games, right,
Speaker 1: Usually Saturday is devoted to college football.
Speaker 2: To be fair, Joel Clyde is the one who needs
Speaker 2: to find time to pee during these long games, as
Speaker 2: he is an analyst in the booth. And I don't
Speaker 2: know how long commercial breaks are, but like if you
Speaker 2: if you were given two minutes flat where not only
Speaker 2: did you have to be back, you know, at your desk,
Speaker 2: so to speak, but you had to be on the
Speaker 2: air and talking and having high energy. Do you think
Speaker 2: you could make that work two minutes going for probably
Speaker 2: a sizeable pe.
Speaker 1: You would think he's drinking water up there to keep Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course that's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: Do you think you would be able to immediately zip
Speaker 2: and go and then on a dime turn like you're
Speaker 2: talking about like your your what your twenty yard cone drill. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's where Joel's coming from. Secretly with this.
Speaker 1: I could probably I could probably pull that off seventy
Speaker 1: percent of the time.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's a spit bucket? I want to
Speaker 2: know this now because there's a lot of people who
Speaker 2: say you shouldn't drink a lot of water before you
Speaker 2: go to bed so you don't wake up in the
Speaker 2: middle of the night, right, Do you think they're drinking
Speaker 2: water up there? I mean, I guess you have a
Speaker 2: longer commercial break between quarters, but you're not yourself if
Speaker 2: you got ants in your pants, tie nor. I think
Speaker 2: there's some truth behind that. Number two ineligible man downfield
Speaker 2: should be a one yard barrier, not three yards. So
Speaker 2: this is sort of an anti RPO stance, and I
Speaker 2: get it. I get it, but I like RPOs. I mean,
Speaker 2: you're just making an NFL rules at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the ACC and SEC should play nine conference games.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: Well, we get a lot of you know, by the
Speaker 2: end of the season by November. There are a lot
Speaker 2: of comparisons. Okay, does Alabama deserve to be number one?
Speaker 2: Should be Ohio State, should it be USC? Should it
Speaker 2: be Oklahoma whoever usc That was a joke, ty, I
Speaker 2: just threw that one in there to see if people
Speaker 2: were paying attention. It generally seems to even out a
Speaker 2: lot of those top schools that we end up comparing
Speaker 2: schedule pretty well out of conference. They're not, you know,
Speaker 2: Baylor from twenty twelve or something. Alabama's scheduled magnificently well,
Speaker 2: LSUS scheduled terrifically well. Georgia a great schedule these past
Speaker 2: few years. For the most part, Clemson is scheduled up
Speaker 2: with what Texas A and M and Georgia like. These
Speaker 2: teams are scheduling pretty well, especially at the top, because
Speaker 2: they know that by the end of the year, resumes
Speaker 2: are going to be a conversation. So I haven't really
Speaker 2: found myself thinking this, this sort of sucks that they're
Speaker 2: only playing eight conference games because they can get away
Speaker 2: with it because people show up to their games and
Speaker 2: people watch their games on TV even when they're playing
Speaker 2: the Citadel, even when they're playing Prairie View A and
Speaker 2: M whatever, and so I guess it would be better,
Speaker 2: but I don't really see the case for why they should.
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Speaker 2: Ty. We have a hot take here that I think
Speaker 2: is magnificent.
Speaker 1: What do we got?
Speaker 2: Bama doesn't want that? UMass smoke Mike low Copo locopo. Okay,
Speaker 2: this has this brings something up in my brain.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: If you were to rank Alabama diehard fansy one through
Speaker 2: however many Alabama football fans there are in this world,
Speaker 2: So say there are ten million Alabama fans. Okay, Number
Speaker 2: one is the most diehard Alabama fan his or her life,
Speaker 2: fully dedicated to Alabama football, calling into radio shows, on
Speaker 2: every single message board, posters on their walls, their you know, clippings,
Speaker 2: everywhere they live eat Alabama.
Speaker 1: So we're talking our friend Adam Abdullah from ESPN Radio Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody like that, okay, And so that that person
Speaker 2: is number one and you rank them by their diehardiness
Speaker 2: all the way through ten million? Okay, Okay, how far
Speaker 2: down would you have to go to find somebody with
Speaker 2: an equal amount of passion for U MASS Football? So like,
Speaker 2: is there somebody who is as passionate about U mass
Speaker 2: Football as the eight millionth most passionate Alabama fan is
Speaker 2: about Alabama?
Speaker 1: Like? Who is the Harvey Updyke of UNE football? And
Speaker 1: where would he rank on that?
Speaker 2: How far down do you have to go.
Speaker 1: On the Alabama side?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, where you're just like somebody was just
Speaker 2: fricking pumped about the Mark Whipple era. They're like, this
Speaker 2: is the guy. How far down would you have to go?
Speaker 2: I maybe even percentage wise, but I'll put it out
Speaker 2: of ten million.
Speaker 1: You would you probably have to go? I would say
Speaker 1: at least sixty down in that totem pol.
Speaker 2: So six million ish? Yeah, you think there is somebody
Speaker 2: as passionate about U Mass Football as the six millionth
Speaker 2: most passionate Alabama fan?
Speaker 1: I think that's right, That's how I feel. Yeah, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: I tend to think that it's an arbitrary question, but
Speaker 2: there's somebody out there who has categorized and cataloged everything
Speaker 2: about UMass football throughout the years.
Speaker 1: That's tremendous that question. Yeah, thank you very much. Here's
Speaker 1: one that came through. So we did a show. I
Speaker 1: don't know we do a show every week, but we
Speaker 1: did a show recently where we talked about where I
Speaker 1: said specifically that Alex Hornybrook was quote a massive upgrade
Speaker 1: over James Blackman, and I caught a little bit of
Speaker 1: flack on Twitter for that, I don't know, caught a
Speaker 1: little bit of from who I'd rather have quarterback in
Speaker 1: my team right now. I stay, James Blackman's gonna be
Speaker 1: broken in half. I stand by the comment. But statistically,
Speaker 1: when you look at what Hornybrook has done over his
Speaker 1: career versus what Blackman did in that one extended season
Speaker 1: that he had as a true freshman, statistically, it's pretty
Speaker 1: similar statistically speaking, So I get the fact that someone
Speaker 1: would take umbrage to the massive component of that statement.
Speaker 1: He may be an upgrade. He certainly provides depth. He's
Speaker 1: more of a known quantity. We could talk about that
Speaker 1: on some other show. I'm sure we will as the
Speaker 1: season gets closer. But the take that I found nestled
Speaker 1: in that conversation was one particular guy who wrote in
Speaker 1: to say that he thought Alex Hornybrook the real reason
Speaker 1: he was leaving Florida State is because he fashions himself
Speaker 1: at some point in the future as a college football coach,
Speaker 1: and that the move to Florida State was one that
Speaker 1: could give him ample opportunity to stay all after his
Speaker 1: eligibility has expired, so that he can become a GA
Speaker 1: and so launch his college football coaching career.
Speaker 2: This is not unique to him, and I could imagine
Speaker 2: that this was something that may have come up when
Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew, I believe, committed to Alabama from ECU originally
Speaker 2: that you know, the prospects weren't looking good, at least
Speaker 2: set yourself up for the future. Rights That to me
Speaker 2: is not a full stretch.
Speaker 1: I get that it's not a full stretch. In a
Speaker 1: lot of circumstances. However, Hornybrook was a guaranteed starter at Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: He was going to be the starting quarterback. He was
Speaker 1: going to be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: You see the guy coming in this year.
Speaker 1: I know he's very I know he's very good.
Speaker 2: You see what Alex horneybro looked like last year.
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I've made fun of
Speaker 1: Hornybrook for the last three years. Okay, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, guaranteed starter week one, Hornybrook.
Speaker 1: Is your guaranteed starter week one to leave that situation
Speaker 1: to go to another situation where he is potentially a backup,
Speaker 1: potentially a third stringer who knows it. Just does not
Speaker 1: seem like this would be one of those situations where
Speaker 1: he'd want to leave where he was at and go
Speaker 1: somewhere else because he's trying to set himself up for
Speaker 1: a coaching career. I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is not so far fetched that a
Speaker 2: college football player is really smart and forward looking. I'm
Speaker 2: not so far fetched. I don't like Alex Hornibrook probably
Speaker 2: has a pretty good idea. He's not an NFL quarterback, right,
Speaker 2: so so not two birds two birds tie.
Speaker 1: I would hope. So. By the way, people are very
Speaker 1: excited about James Blackman this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, so I hope it works out for him.
Speaker 2: Where else we go, we got somebody who said that
Speaker 2: had let's see I want to get the right wording here.
Speaker 2: If Mississippi State paid Cam's father like Auburn did, they'd
Speaker 2: have a title right now.
Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, Mississippi State didn't have Nick Fairley on that team.
Speaker 1: Did they fight?
Speaker 2: They didn't have a make fairly, but this is still
Speaker 2: a I think they went nine and four, it looks like,
Speaker 2: including the Bowl win over Michigan. I think that was
Speaker 2: a Chris Relph team. I remember correctly, it's a pretty
Speaker 2: Goossissippi State team. Defensive coordinator Manny Diaz. It was his
Speaker 2: first year there. They let's see, they don't hang with Alabama.
Speaker 2: They barely lose to a top fifteen Arkansas in double overtime.
Speaker 2: They comfortably lose to LSU, and they get barely edged
Speaker 2: out by a Cam Newton Auburn team, which at the
Speaker 2: very least means early on they were very close to
Speaker 2: being Auburn. Auburn did not have a particularly good defense
Speaker 2: that year. Nick Fairley was great.
Speaker 1: That was a ted Roof defense if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: which explains a lot, actually.
Speaker 2: Does explain a lot. And the Auburn team around Cam
Speaker 2: had talent Michael Dyer, Philip Watson, Kirk and there were
Speaker 2: guys there, but this was not a stacked team. It
Speaker 2: was a one man team in a lot of ways
Speaker 2: with Cam Newton. So I actually don't think this is
Speaker 2: super hot. National championship is a lot to say. A
Speaker 2: lot goes into that and a lot of variables, and
Speaker 2: you know, I think Auburn was probably better situated to
Speaker 2: beat Alabama than Mississippi State team with Cam. But there's
Speaker 2: some there's some coolness to that. Actually, I don't think
Speaker 2: it's the spiciest all right, I mean, is is Cam
Speaker 2: Newton that you're good for winning two more games including
Speaker 2: he was a lost to Cam Newton, which is they're
Speaker 2: probably beating Auburn right with Cam Newton instead of playing
Speaker 2: Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree with that.
Speaker 2: So that takes them to nine regular season wins. I
Speaker 2: would say they're probably beating Arkansas, a team they lost
Speaker 2: to in two overtimes, right, Yes, agreed, So they're now
Speaker 2: better than Arkansas. So now they're at ten regular season wins.
Speaker 2: They lost by twenty two to LSU. We know Cam
Speaker 2: Newton had arguably the game of his life against LSU,
Speaker 2: but that's certainly closer in Alabama another game of his life.
Speaker 2: They lose by twenty So can they go eleven and
Speaker 2: one sneak in? Maybe? I don't know. I think I
Speaker 2: think it's not the craziest thing. Although Auburn is getting
Speaker 2: in and they didn't lose again that year, obviously, but
Speaker 2: Auburn is getting in with one loss ahead of Mississippi
Speaker 2: State with one loss. Pretty clear, it seems fair. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so the Mississippi State brand is holding them back. But
Speaker 2: if they have the Heisman winning quarterback, then suddenly the
Speaker 2: brand gets help. See spicy, it helps Let me go.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say there's a good shot.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if I feel good about it,
Speaker 1: but a better shot for sure. Let me. Let me
Speaker 1: throw two out at you and you tell me which
Speaker 1: one is spicier. Both of these came in. We've got
Speaker 1: one that Michigan will beat Ohio State in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: and then we've got another that the Pac twelve will
Speaker 1: miss the playoff again in the twenty nineteen Oh my god,
Speaker 1: twenty season. Which is which is the spicy of those
Speaker 1: two takes?
Speaker 2: Oh, Michigan beating Ohio State is way spicier.
Speaker 1: So you're not feeling the Pack twelve making the playoff
Speaker 1: who's the Pack twelve's playoff team. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean there is one. I think that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, who is the PAC twelve's playoff team if
Speaker 2: they get one in? If they get one in, it's
Speaker 2: is it Washington? I'm either Washington or Will Washington. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying will Washington get in the playoff. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: if by chance a PAC twelve team were to make it,
Speaker 2: the winner of the Pac twelve is it's either confidently
Speaker 2: see it could be Stanford. I like kJ Costello plenty.
Speaker 1: I don't like that they lose Bryce Love or Theyga Whiteside,
Speaker 1: Cadence Smith, stars along the line. Yeah, not feeling I just.
Speaker 2: I don't feel good about anybody in the PAC twelve
Speaker 2: winning the PAC twelve. So that's a it's a pretty
Speaker 2: cold take to say the Pack doll's missing out again
Speaker 2: because I don't know who to feel good about.
Speaker 1: On the Michigan side, I feel good for Michigan this year.
Speaker 1: It's long overdue. They have won three games in the
Speaker 1: last eighteen meetings with Ohio State, and that doesn't even
Speaker 1: count the game they lost by thirty and twenty ten
Speaker 1: when that win was vacated they get Ohio State in
Speaker 1: ann Arbor this year, a lot back on offense, Gonna
Speaker 1: take some time to sort out their defense, losing Rashaun Gary,
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich, Devin Bush, etc. Etc. But I think they're
Speaker 1: in good shape. I'm excited to see what Ohio State
Speaker 1: looks like under Justin Fields and especially with Ryan Day.
Speaker 1: But Ryan Day is not Urban Meyer. He could be
Speaker 1: a great coach, but there's a reason that they say
Speaker 1: you don't want to follow a legend, and I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see how he manages through a full twelve games
Speaker 1: slate as opposed to three.
Speaker 2: This would be a good year. I'm a believer in
Speaker 2: Dwayne Haskins being exceptional and a believer in Dwayne Haskins
Speaker 2: with time in that system being exceptional, being a better
Speaker 2: situation than Justin Field's coming in and expected to be
Speaker 2: Dwayne Haskins immediately. So I think it's a good year
Speaker 2: for Michigan to be great and better and play like
Speaker 2: they're better than Ohio State. Ohio State's defense should be
Speaker 2: really good, especially upfront this year. I'm sure Penn State
Speaker 2: fans remember Chase Young. He's still there. He's still there.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Smith still there, still great. So I'm still a
Speaker 2: believer that this should be the year. Should there be
Speaker 2: a year ever again that Michigan beats Ohio State, it
Speaker 2: should be this year.
Speaker 1: By the way, if you want a really spicy take day, yeah,
Speaker 1: don sandwich you. I'm so hungry. I'm so hungry to
Speaker 1: close out Michigan season. They are home against Michigan State
Speaker 1: aka Little Brother, then on the road in Bloomington at
Speaker 1: Indiana before they come back home to square off against
Speaker 1: their hated rival Ohio State. If that Indiana game isn't
Speaker 1: an all time great let down, look ahead spot, I
Speaker 1: don't know what is. I don't know how good Indiana
Speaker 1: will be this year, but at least on paper in
Speaker 1: late April, that looks pretty damn interesting to me.
Speaker 2: Somebody gave us there are ten teams, and only ten
Speaker 2: teams are right around ten. There are maybe the same
Speaker 2: ten teams every year that can win a title. No
Speaker 2: other school has or will ever have a chance. The
Speaker 2: ap top twenty five finished as such last year, each
Speaker 2: of which, at various points of the season were kind
Speaker 2: of threatening. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, LSU, Florida, Georgia, Texas,
Speaker 2: are the top nine. Washington State finishes number ten outside
Speaker 2: of that top nine in terms of teams that have
Speaker 2: the infrastructure, can amass the talent, put themselves in a
Speaker 2: position to sneak in and get by whatever. I think, Michigan,
Speaker 2: Penn State, and then I don't know Florida.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Oregon. I don't know about Oregon.
Speaker 1: Would you say after Florida State, Yeah, Florida State. I
Speaker 1: think there's more than ten.
Speaker 2: I think twelve.
Speaker 1: I think there's more than twelve. I think A and
Speaker 1: M is a team that can win a national championship. Yes, A,
Speaker 1: specially under Jimbo Fisher. He will put the infrastructure in
Speaker 1: place to make West Virginia.
Speaker 2: No. I mean, I would say USC should be added
Speaker 2: to that list at their absolute best, but it's tough
Speaker 2: to foresee it in any sort of immediate future. UCLA,
Speaker 2: I will say.
Speaker 1: No, No, I think it's fifteen to twenty, somewhere in
Speaker 1: that range.
Speaker 2: I think twelve to fourteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, do one or two more?
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go, how about this one?
Speaker 1: Tie?
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen. The twenty nineteen season will be Chip Kelly's
Speaker 2: final season as UCLA's head coach.
Speaker 1: Final season, final season. The only way Charles Kelly isn't
Speaker 1: coaching in twenty twenty is if he leaves on his
Speaker 1: own volition.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's any chance he's getting fired.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any chance he's leaving. I think
Speaker 1: this is a guy who genuinely enjoys football.
Speaker 2: Is wanting to coach football, the same exact thing as
Speaker 2: not only do I want to coach football, but I
Speaker 2: want to do it for the UCLA Bruins.
Speaker 1: They are going to have to pry the playbook from
Speaker 1: his dead, lifeless fingers before he'll leave.
Speaker 2: Do you know who submitted this question this take to
Speaker 2: us Dan Rubinstein in New York. I'm saying, that's my
Speaker 2: take twenty nineteens last year. You think he's seen what
Speaker 2: it's like to coach UCLA and we've all come to
Speaker 2: a point doing things in our lives pursuits where we've said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just I'm cutting bait. This is
Speaker 2: not for me. I don't like where this is heading.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a part of this. This
Speaker 2: is based on no knowledge, This is based on no source,
Speaker 2: This is based on no inside information. But I don't
Speaker 2: think succeeding at UCLA is something that a chip Kelly
Speaker 2: type will be the one to make happen. I think
Speaker 2: a different I think a different kind of guy who
Speaker 2: wants whose goal forever is to be at a place
Speaker 2: like UCLA, to transform a place like the UCLA. And
Speaker 2: I think chip Kelly is looking around at college football
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, the recruiting, you know, playing forty five
Speaker 2: minutes away from campus, having academic standards to deal with,
Speaker 2: or I guess, in the case of UCLA, no standards
Speaker 2: to deal with other than just cold hard cash. I
Speaker 2: think I think chip Kelly takes a long, hard look
Speaker 2: and says, no, wow, okay, good, here's one for you. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll close out with this. I would rather have the
Speaker 2: first down line than HDTV. Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: The first down? The computer generated first down? I know
Speaker 1: you have to pick one or the given the choice.
Speaker 1: Given the choice, you're taking the first down line versus hd.
Speaker 2: WHOA, that's really good. I mean we go one play
Speaker 2: where the graphic department doesn't spit out the line of
Speaker 2: scrimmage and the yellow first down line, and you're in
Speaker 2: my head, No, what sport. Am I watching? How am
Speaker 2: I supposed to know what's going on? Meanwhile, the sport
Speaker 2: on TV has been like that for ninety four percent
Speaker 2: of its existence. Right, which would you rather have HGTV
Speaker 2: or the first down yellow line?
Speaker 1: I'm the one that rode I'd rather have the first
Speaker 1: down line.
Speaker 2: Okay, I figured it was you.
Speaker 1: I think the first down line is one of the
Speaker 1: greatest inventions in modern television history.
Speaker 2: Do you like having the field goal line? No, like
Speaker 2: they need to get to this point our career long
Speaker 2: is right here for a forty seven yard er. I
Speaker 2: like doing the math in my head.
Speaker 1: Wait, right, with the first down line, it's not arbitrary.
Speaker 1: I know where they're getting that information because it's always well,
Speaker 1: it's always the same distance.
Speaker 2: It's not exact exact, but it's you know, it's close
Speaker 2: to on a true based on some true math.
Speaker 1: The field goal line, I always wonder if the man's
Speaker 1: trying to stick it to me, Like, where did they
Speaker 1: get this information from?
Speaker 2: I think I'm about eleven teams, by the way, that
Speaker 2: can win a national championship on any given year.
Speaker 1: Give me fifteen to twenty.
Speaker 2: By the way. Shout out to our pal Peter Hoffman,
Speaker 2: who has just a raging college football piece of excitement
Speaker 2: in his pants. For Sean Gleeson, the Oklahoma State new
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. He has hot take. Northwestern wins ten or
Speaker 2: eleven games this year. Behind Hunter Johnson and his simmering
Speaker 2: take is Oklahoma State and Shawn Gleeson's offense take the
Speaker 2: Big twelve by storm and win the conference.
Speaker 1: Boom shack a Laco. Okay, Okay, it's.
Speaker 2: A good year for Oklahoma State to be interesting and new.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. Here's the way this works.
Speaker 1: It is late. Dan is tired.
Speaker 2: I am tired.
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