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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: We are rolling with you.

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Speaker 2: Lots of fun and a ton of different topics to

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Speaker 2: dive into. Gavin newsom our friend. We're going to start

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Speaker 2: off with this another big sit down interview. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: how many of those he has time to do. Talking

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Speaker 2: about Kamala Harris NBC on COVID, Our good friend Mark

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Speaker 2: Cuban with an intriguing position on COVID that Buck texted

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Speaker 2: me about this morning.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss that.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, by the way, news wise, has announced that

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Speaker 2: he is going to skip the second Republican debate, which

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Speaker 2: is taking place September twenty seventh at the Reagan Library.

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Speaker 2: What do we think about that? Probably not a huge

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Speaker 2: surprise that he is making that choice. DeSantis and Trump

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Speaker 2: an interesting little interchange as they have gone back and forth.

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Speaker 2: This came out of the Meet the Press that Trump

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Speaker 2: did with Kristen Welker, the new host there, where he

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Speaker 2: ripped Ron DeSantis and the six Week abortion band, the

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Speaker 2: limitations that now exist in the state of Florida. That

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Speaker 2: is a bit intriguing, if only because Trump is actually

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Speaker 2: to the left of DeSantis on that issue and several others.

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Speaker 2: And we'll probably dive into that as well, but I

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Speaker 2: wanted to start with this book. I didn't interview with

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Speaker 2: Adam Carolla. He's been on the show several times. Adam Carolla,

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Speaker 2: formerly of The Man Show, really funny comedian. I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of you guys out there are are fans

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Speaker 2: of Adam Carola. And we talked about Gavin Newsom Buck

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Speaker 2: and Adam Carole had a great analogy. He said, Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom's like a guy who's got a really bad Mexican

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Speaker 2: restaurant and he's decided that he wants to franchise it.

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Speaker 2: That's what he basically said of Gavin Newsom's tenure as

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Speaker 2: the governor of California, that he hasn't done a very

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Speaker 2: good job. People in California are mostly unhappy, but he's

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Speaker 2: decided that he wants to take his California brand national.

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Speaker 2: And for a guy who has expressed that he has

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Speaker 2: no interest, supposedly in being president of the United States,

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Speaker 2: he sure does seem to be doing a lot of

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Speaker 2: national interviews. And he did another one with CNN and

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Speaker 2: I wanted. By the way, Joe Biden also spoke at

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Speaker 2: the UN. I went through and watched a lot of

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Speaker 2: these clips, and he said nothing of any substance or interest,

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Speaker 2: at least to me. I don't know if you felt differently, Buck,

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Speaker 2: but it's like to go speak at the UN and

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Speaker 1: I thought was very strange.

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Speaker 2: But Gavin Newsom, I wanted to play this because everybody's

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Speaker 2: now getting asked about Kamala Harris says he's absolute. She

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Speaker 2: is absolutely the best choice for Biden's running mate. Of course,

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Speaker 2: she is listen to cut nine here.

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Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi, she heaped praise on Kamala Harris, but she

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Speaker 3: declined to say whether or not she.

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Speaker 4: Thought that the vice president is best.

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Speaker 5: Person to be on the ticket with Joe Biden at

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Speaker 3: Do you, of course she is Biden Harris administration masterclass

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Speaker 3: in terms of performance, bipartisan deals on infrastructure, bipartisan deals

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Speaker 3: on guns and debt, ceiling on the chips and side.

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Speaker 1: She's the best choice I mean, by.

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Speaker 6: Definition, if I think this administration the last two and

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Speaker 6: a half years has been one of the most outstanding

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Speaker 6: administrations in the last few decades, and she's a member

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Speaker 6: of that administration, she gets the lady and claimed credit

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Speaker 6: to a lot of that success.

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Speaker 3: Answer is absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Okay, buck, what that is like? There's no way that

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Speaker 2: he believes anything that he just said. Are we missing

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Speaker 2: some sort of four D chess? What's going on here?

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Speaker 4: He knows that he's able to say it in a

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Speaker 4: way that almost drips with disdain, but that the words

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Speaker 4: the transcript and say that he was undermining this White House, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's he's singing the required tune here, but

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Speaker 4: he's not doing it with any enthusiasm. He's doing what

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Speaker 4: still have not made Although I've seen there are across

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Speaker 4: the web right now you'll see different pieces people are

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Speaker 4: raising the anxiety over Biden's age, but they're all saying

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Speaker 4: it's almost too late.

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Speaker 1: It's almost too late. I haven't seen enough of.

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Speaker 4: The momentum to bring about a switch or to even

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Speaker 4: So I think Gavin is reading the room with that

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Speaker 4: I'm sure in the next one. Remember, part of what

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Speaker 4: we've talked about here is how important the vice presidential

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Speaker 4: pick is for Trump or for Biden, assuming that Trump

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Speaker 4: that would be quite a quite a change up, quite

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Speaker 4: a surprise. But Clay, the other part of it is

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Speaker 4: that you're going to have the general election campaign for

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight effectively kick off two years into the

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Speaker 4: presidency of whoever ends up winning. So it's not like

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Speaker 4: you have to wait eight years if you get a

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Speaker 4: Democrat victory. Here, Gavin Newsom's not waiting on the sidelines

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Speaker 4: for eight years. He's waiting on the sidelines for two

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Speaker 4: at at you know, that's assuming nothing crazy happens the

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Speaker 4: next few months. So you know, look, he's very he's

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Speaker 4: very slick. We joke around about it. He gets a

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Speaker 4: lot of media attention. He understands that I still don't know.

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Speaker 4: I haven't really seen excellent numbers. I still don't think

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Speaker 4: that he would play very well in the battleground states.

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Speaker 4: And at the national level, our presidential elections are to

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Speaker 4: winning in those places. Right Winning in California for a

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Speaker 4: Democrat is irrelevant. Losing for a Democrat in you know,

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Speaker 4: Wyoming is irrelevant, although Wyman doesn't Lot doesn't have a

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Speaker 4: lot of Electoral College votes period anyway, But you get

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I think it's isn't that the most

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Speaker 2: It might be it was Wyoming. And honestly, this is

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Speaker 2: why Joe Manchin is in such trouble. I think West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump won West Virginia by the biggest margin.

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Speaker 2: I think it was thirty nine points. I feel like

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Speaker 2: it was West Virginia one, Wyoming two. If somebody on

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Speaker 2: the staff wants to look that up in the twenty

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Speaker 1: Am I right? Is it wying? Is it West Virginia one?

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Speaker 4: Well, we'll have the staff check that. When a staff

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Speaker 4: pull it, it's it's close. It's it's a neck and

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Speaker 2: So here's the problem with what you just said, Buck,

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Speaker 2: and I don't disagree. If Gavin Newsom is on record,

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Speaker 2: which he just said on CNN, hey, it's the Biden

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Speaker 2: Harris administration. They've done an incredible job. How do you

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Speaker 2: justify yes, of course she should be on the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Of course she should be the vice president if you

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Speaker 2: believe that to be true. Now, how does that not

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Speaker 2: get played in the event that Biden wins, Like I

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Speaker 2: just Harris has to be the nominee. If Biden wins

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Speaker 2: eight years, And frankly, I think that, and I hate

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Speaker 2: to say this, I think that at some point, if

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Speaker 2: like we said, then she's going to end up president

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Speaker 2: again we talked about this last week, just to put

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Speaker 2: about today. Some people make that argument on the Democrat side.

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Speaker 2: Half of every person, half of the people that were

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Speaker 2: already dead in America. So the idea that he at

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Speaker 2: she's going to end up, in my opinion, president of

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Speaker 2: pretend that somehow Biden serves out his whole term and

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Speaker 2: know they're swearing in a new president. I don't see

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Speaker 2: any way that Kamala Harris is not the nominee by

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Speaker 2: almost popular acclamation. If people like Gavin Newsom are now

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why he cares about doing all these

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Speaker 4: What he he can't be seen, Clay, he can't be

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Speaker 1: He's a party line guy. He supports the administration. But

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Speaker 4: At some point in the future the Democrat Party faithful

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Speaker 2: Okay, I understand that, But that would suggest that he

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Speaker 2: but it's not.

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Speaker 1: He'll changes tune if he's gonna run.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I don't think he's running now, or

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Speaker 4: rather he's not going to run the next year.

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Speaker 1: I believe we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but at this point, if anyone

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Speaker 4: I think I have to give them some pretty strong odds.

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Speaker 4: If he's gonna run in uh whatever, at twenty eight,

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Speaker 4: no one's gonna remember what he says now about Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 4: and I just think.

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Speaker 2: It gets harder to step over her if Biden wins. Now, Biden,

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Speaker 2: here's the question. No, he he creates nothing but downside

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Speaker 2: for himself. If he's seemed undermine right now, he creates

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Speaker 2: downside in California, he creates downside with the Democrat base.

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Speaker 2: He creates downside with voters that he's gonna need down

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Speaker 2: the line. This is do you think Gavin Newsom is

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Speaker 2: rooting for Donald Trump to beat Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: I think Gavin Newsom is rooting for Donald Trump to

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Speaker 1: Because that helps him politically.

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Speaker 2: Think about it as we go to break here in

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Speaker 1: Here's my argument.

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Speaker 2: I think Gavin Newsom is one hundred percent rooting for

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Speaker 4: But I mean, like RFK Junior, we were talking about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the more I think about it, one

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Speaker 4: He would swear on the lives of his ancestors or

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back team.

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Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom at the center of the conversation today at

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Speaker 4: the start because of what he said about Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 1: It's so a legacy.

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Speaker 2: Fuck, it's so fake, Like I can't help but respect

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Speaker 2: how fake it is. You just throw oly Edginus into

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Speaker 1: But I like that you went you went about punctuous.

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Speaker 1: Would that be a better?

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Speaker 4: Is amazing for Gavin Newsom too, That's a perfect one,

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Speaker 4: he is, He's perfect because I was like, I mean,

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Speaker 4: be president in the future. But she is perfect as

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Speaker 4: vice president? Like the subtext is so strong. Uh So

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Speaker 4: he said that, And then also Gavin Newsom here on

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Speaker 4: the impeachment inquiry. I don't think that we mentioned the

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Speaker 4: first impeachment hearing, inquiry hearing.

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Speaker 1: It's an inquiry, right, it's not technically an impeachment yet.

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Speaker 1: That is next Thursday.

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Speaker 4: It has been set by the House Republicans for next Thursday,

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Speaker 4: so we're about to enter that phenomenon. Let's play clip

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Speaker 4: twelve here, Gavin Newsom on the impeachment inquiry.

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Speaker 5: And don't know enough about the details of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen a little of that.

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Speaker 5: If that's the new criteria. There are a lot of

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Speaker 6: I don't love that anymore than you love it or

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Speaker 5: We want to see a lot less of that. But

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Speaker 5: an impeachment inquiry, Give me a break. This is student government.

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Speaker 5: Student government threatening a government shut down again after we

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Speaker 5: it's a perversity with the founding fathers ever conceived of

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I think it's interesting national debt today

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Speaker 1: You might have seen that announced.

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Speaker 4: We're a thirty three trillion now, So talking about spending

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Speaker 4: is silly to Gavin Newsom. Beyond that, the most oh

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can not agree with the decision to impeach

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Speaker 1: By the time they.

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Speaker 2: Impeached Trump for a I mean, what is honestly he

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Speaker 2: after January sixth, It basically is just a form of

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Speaker 1: And so that is what is going on here.

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Speaker 2: But the data reflects the evidence in question that I've

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. By the way,

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Speaker 2: If you want to weigh in and react to any

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Speaker 2: I wanted to clean this up because we talked about

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Speaker 2: it in the opening segment. I went back during the

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Speaker 2: are right that Wyoming was the state that supported Trump

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Speaker 2: the most in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna have the team clip that, and that's

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Speaker 1: Me that I'm right every day all day. I want

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, sir, well, yes, because you're now married, so

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Speaker 2: you probably don't hear that very ill. I do not

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Speaker 2: hear it as office. I used to, Yeah, in your head.

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Speaker 2: You used to hear it a lot more you get married.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've been right in twenty years. So, uh,

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Speaker 2: Wyoming sixty nine point this is crazy. Sixty nine point

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Speaker 2: nine percent of Wyoming voters supported Donald Trump twenty six

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Speaker 2: So I think Joe Manchin is slowly coming to the

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Speaker 2: three of those have to be on the chopping block

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Speaker 4: If you have a Democrat controlled Senate and a Republican

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Speaker 4: Let's just throw that out there for a second, because

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's enough conversation on the right. I

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Speaker 4: know a lot of people have it in their minds

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Speaker 4: perhaps well Trump will wield the executive veto or not

442
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Speaker 4: veto pen, but the executive pen for executive orders in

443
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Speaker 4: order to accomplish a lot of things. The truth is,

444
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 4: we already saw this, and what happens is they have

445
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Speaker 4: universal injunctions that come down from any federal judge anywhere

446
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Speaker 4: in the country to stop Now. You could say, well,

447
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Speaker 4: it'll make its way to the Supreme Court and maybe

448
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Speaker 4: he'll prevail there. Point being, folks, if we're gonna get

449
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Speaker 4: a lot done, if Trump is gonna get a lot done,

450
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Speaker 4: if he is, if he is the candidate, and if

451
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Speaker 4: he wins, for him to get a lot done, you

452
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Speaker 4: can't have Democrats and control the Senate.

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Speaker 1: Again, which is a big piece of this.

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Speaker 4: The Senate races are We're going to dial into these

455
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Speaker 4: more as we get closer, but those are absolutely critical.

456
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Speaker 4: That's a part of this that I think doesn't really

457
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Speaker 4: hasn't really factored into the conversation very much yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, the reason why we have the disastrous

459
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Speaker 2: economic situation that we do on inflation is because Joe

460
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Speaker 2: Biden had for a very limited time a tiny control

461
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Speaker 2: of the Senate in the House, and he exerted as

462
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Speaker 2: much possible authority as he could in the first two

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Speaker 2: years of his presidency. And so regardless of what happens

464
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Speaker 2: in the presidential election in twenty twenty four, we have

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Speaker 2: got to have Republican control of the Senate because the

466
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Speaker 2: House is going to be on tenter hooks one way

467
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Speaker 2: or the other. The margin is going to be tiny

468
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Speaker 2: one way or the other, and you have there should be,

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Speaker 2: there should have been Senate control one back by Republicans

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two. We tripped all over ourselves in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: We tripped all over ourselves in Arizona, we tripped all

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Speaker 2: over ourselves in Pennsylvania. Right, the three states that you

473
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Speaker 2: could point to and say those were winnable races, absolutely

474
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Speaker 2: have to win West Virginia. I think that one's in

475
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Speaker 2: the bag. That would make it fifty to fifty and

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Speaker 2: then need to win at least one of the two

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Speaker 2: in in Ohio or Montana. Need to win all three

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Speaker 2: of those races, really because those are red state that

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Speaker 2: should have read senators. And then you could at least,

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Speaker 2: regardless of how close this presidential election ends up being

481
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, you could at least know that

482
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Speaker 2: the power was going to be checked, and worst case scenario,

483
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Speaker 2: we would have divided government. I'm actually, right now, Buck

484
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Speaker 2: more optimistic about Senate control than I am House control,

485
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Speaker 2: because I just think the House is going to be

486
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Speaker 2: so tight. The battlefield, as it were, the landscape actually

487
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Speaker 2: favors Republicans more in the Senate than I think it

488
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Speaker 2: does in the House.

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Speaker 4: I certainly hope that's the way it plays out. Did

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Speaker 4: you mention Arizona, by the way, in that I was?

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Speaker 1: I have not yet.

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Speaker 2: I mean Arizona obviously, it looks like Kerry Lake. There's

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Speaker 2: going to be a three way battle there. We expect

494
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Speaker 2: Cinema to run as an independent against Gego.

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Speaker 4: That that's going to be both messy and very important

496
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Speaker 4: in this process as well. You'll have an important race

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Speaker 4: in Arizona already, I've seen it's almost hard to believe.

498
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Speaker 4: But this is what they're they're looking at. Do I'm

499
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Speaker 4: looking at sort of the enemy playbook here at CNN.

500
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Speaker 4: They think that Ted Cruz, they're going to go after

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Speaker 4: Ted Cruz in Texas.

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Speaker 1: You know he's gonna do it. They're thinking, they want they.

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Speaker 4: Want betto O'Rourke Pera. I'm like, I'm like, is that

504
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Speaker 4: guy ever gonna go away? No, I don't even Cruise.

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Speaker 1: Ted cru is gonna win in twenty four in Texas?

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Speaker 2: All right, Like there there will be a lot of drama,

507
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Speaker 2: there will be a lot of focus on oh no.

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Speaker 1: He'll win.

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Speaker 4: But it's just funny that they they Ted Cruise is

510
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Speaker 4: their white whale man. Yea, they want to take do

511
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Speaker 4: they if they could get one Senate? Also the the

512
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Speaker 4: whole Texas phenomenon, they think that if they can go

513
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Speaker 4: into the largest solid red state, they'll be in a

514
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Speaker 4: position anyway. That's I think the Ted will be fine.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned Montana. That's important, West Virginia, that's very important. Look,

516
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Speaker 4: it's basically it tracks with most of the important battleground

517
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Speaker 4: states period. The Senate races that are going to matter

518
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Speaker 4: are going to be in states that the presidential candidates

519
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Speaker 4: are going to be really duking it out in you know, Wisconsin, Nevada,

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Speaker 4: let me see, Yeah, Michigan's gonna Michigan's gonna have a

521
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Speaker 4: battle ground because they're not going to have an incumbent.

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Speaker 4: But Pennsylvania too, Isn't isn't Casey In Pennsylvania, Casey.

523
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Speaker 2: Is going to be running against McCormick, who nearly beat

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Speaker 2: Oz in the primary. It seems like Pennsylvania is kind

525
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Speaker 2: of clearing the deck for McCormick. I'm sure we'll have

526
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Speaker 2: him on at some point. There are a lot of

527
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Speaker 2: battleground safe states, right but when I look at it

528
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Speaker 2: and say, okay, we're down fifty one forty nine right

529
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Speaker 2: now in the Senate, there the three that should West

530
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Speaker 2: Virginia should happen, right, So I think West Virginia, I

531
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Speaker 2: think Democrats are basically going to throw in the towel there.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be fifty to fifty. Okay, then at

533
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Speaker 2: a minimum, you need to win Wyoming or Ohio. Trump

534
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Speaker 2: won Ohio by eight points, he won Montana by like twelve.

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Speaker 1: Or something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think those are states that were big red winners,

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Speaker 2: assuming again we're presuming looking out at the landscape right now.

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Speaker 2: If Trump is on the ballot, he would perform well

539
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Speaker 2: in West Virginia, he would perform well in Ohio, he

540
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Speaker 2: would perform well in Montana. We have ample evidence of

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Speaker 2: that from the last two presidential cycles. So there should

542
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Speaker 2: be some tail you know, some tailwinds, some coattails to

543
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Speaker 2: elevate whoever those candidates are, and at a minimum, take

544
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Speaker 2: back of the Senate because as much of a battle

545
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Speaker 2: as the presidency's going to be, what I want to know, Buck,

546
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Speaker 2: is when I go to bed on election night next year,

547
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Speaker 2: in about fourteen months, I want to at least know

548
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Speaker 2: worst case scenario divided government, because we can't have what

549
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Speaker 2: happened with the first two years of Biden, where he

550
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Speaker 2: comes in and look, Buck, as bad as inflation is,

551
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Speaker 2: no one talks about this.

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Speaker 1: It could have been so much we five.

553
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Speaker 2: Trillion, We would have been sitting at thirteen or fourteen

554
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Speaker 2: percent inflation. And the only reason that didn't happen is

555
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Speaker 2: because Joe Manchin and curse the cinema said no, we're

556
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Speaker 2: not going to go for this. But that's how close,

557
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: how fine the line was between the blowout and you

558
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: just mentioned we're sitting at thirty three trillion in debt,

559
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Speaker 2: we'd be like thirty seven or thirty eight trillion in

560
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Speaker 2: debt if the Democrats had gotten to spend money like

561
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Speaker 2: they wanted to. So at a minimum, we have to

562
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Speaker 2: have a checkout there on this, but that is where

563
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 2: the landscape looks as we set fourteen months out. My

564
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Speaker 2: hope is, by the way, that Joe Manchin actually runs

565
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Speaker 2: a third party candidate, because that's the one aspect that

566
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Speaker 2: nobody spending a lot of time on. I would say,

567
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Speaker 2: kind of projecting in twenty twenty four, we know Cornell

568
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Speaker 2: west Right is going to be the Green Party candidate,

569
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Speaker 2: and I do think that as a black guy running

570
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Speaker 2: on the far left, he may peel off some support,

571
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Speaker 2: just like Jill Stein did for Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen.

572
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Speaker 2: We know you idiots out there who vote libertarian are

573
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Speaker 2: going to show up and still vote libertarian in challenge states,

574
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Speaker 2: and so that's going to be an issue. But if

575
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Speaker 2: we could get somebody like Joe Manchin on the ballot,

576
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Speaker 2: I think that that would hurt Biden the most and

577
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Speaker 2: make a Trump victory or whoever the Republican nominee is

578
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Speaker 2: more likely.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes the sports stuff in the news gets onto the

580
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Speaker 4: Buckster's radar over here, it does happen. Clay brought this

581
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Speaker 4: one to my attention last week. I'm still a little

582
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Speaker 4: bit of shocked about this. I'm gonna tell you before

583
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Speaker 4: we get into this little it's not a little, but

584
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Speaker 4: this sports story. Next hour, we'll talk about latest numbers

585
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Speaker 4: at the border, and also a plan in Chicago raised

586
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Speaker 4: by the mayor to possibly have government owned grocery stores

587
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Speaker 4: in some low income neighborhoods. Anyoneant to guess why they

588
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: need government owned grocery stores in America place where grocery

589
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Speaker 4: stores are like massive temples to production, produce and capitalism, theft, theft.

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Speaker 4: We'll discuss all of this here coming up in just

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Speaker 4: a little bit. But Clay, Michigan State is firing this guy,

592
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Speaker 4: mel Tucker. You told me about this, You brought this

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Speaker 4: one up. He is being fired because he had a

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Speaker 4: as I well, she claims it was non consensual phone sex.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Which I don't think is really a thing unless you're

597
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Speaker 4: claiming there was a threat professionally attached to it, meaning

598
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Speaker 4: right like if someone says you have to have phone

599
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Speaker 4: sex with me or else, I'll fire your that's coercion

600
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Speaker 4: and that that obviously is a problem. But if you

601
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Speaker 4: just start, you know, talking dirty talk and the person

602
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Speaker 4: I the part of this I need to know answers

603
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Speaker 4: to is did the other person where they're like, you know,

604
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Speaker 4: get I don't want to start doing dirty talk here

605
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Speaker 4: on radio, but you know, start getting into it too,

606
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Speaker 4: because then I feel like you think it's green light.

607
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Speaker 4: And you can't tell me that that you're not able

608
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Speaker 4: to as an adult, you know, working in the world

609
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: today in America, you can't just say, you know, I

610
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Speaker 4: think that's inappropriate if someone keeps pushing it. But what

611
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Speaker 4: are they firing this guy for. I don't even understand

612
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Speaker 4: what he's being fired for. Really, That's where I'm shocked.

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Speaker 2: They said he violated the morals call clause of his contract.

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Speaker 2: He's the head football coach Michigan State. We talked about

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Speaker 2: this last week and it was such a crazy story

616
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Speaker 2: that I still can't.

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Speaker 1: Believe it's real.

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Speaker 2: He is accused of non consensual phone sex and Michigan

619
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Speaker 2: State is saying that violates the terms of his contract

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Speaker 2: and they are firing him now.

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Speaker 4: But tell here, thirty eight minutes, how there thirty eight

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Speaker 4: minutes of non consent or thirty six minutes of non

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Speaker 4: consensual phone sex. I could someone could explain thirty seconds

624
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Speaker 4: of non consensual phone sex.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

626
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Speaker 4: You keep saying, you know, you want to talk about this,

627
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Speaker 4: and they want to talk about that, but for thirty

628
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Speaker 4: six minutes.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: She claims she froze and couldn't hang up months later.

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Speaker 1: So she just went solo for thirty six minutes. That's

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Speaker 1: what she's saying.

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Speaker 4: Come on, it's crazy. I agree. The other thing you

634
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Speaker 4: should know, buck is and this sounds miserable to me

635
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Speaker 4: because I hate long phone conversations.

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Speaker 2: The two of them phone records reflect had twenty seven

637
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Speaker 2: different phone calls, averaging over thirty.

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Speaker 1: Minutes in length.

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Speaker 2: So for anybody out there listening right now, how many

640
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Speaker 2: people have you talked to twenty seven different.

641
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Speaker 1: Times for over a half hour.

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Speaker 2: And if it's a member of the opposite sex, and

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Speaker 2: it's not like your mom or your wife or your girlfriend,

644
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Speaker 2: I would siggol or you know, like your sister or

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Speaker 2: somebody like a family relationship, I would submit that if

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Speaker 2: you are having twenty seven different phone calls with a

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Speaker 2: member of the opposite sex, that you are not related to.

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Speaker 2: That is indication that there is some sort of amorous

649
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Speaker 2: intent there.

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Speaker 1: Because you don't need it.

651
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Speaker 2: There's no they don't have a relationship where it's like, oh,

652
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Speaker 2: you're my assistant and we have to manage so many

653
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Speaker 2: different things that are going on.

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Speaker 4: So how much money did you how much money did

655
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Speaker 4: you lose? CN just tell everybody eighty million dollars. Also,

656
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Speaker 4: this gentleman, he is he is I'd like just google

657
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Speaker 4: this because I don't know the story very well. But

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Speaker 4: he is black correct, Yes, one of the few black

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Speaker 4: head coaches to the extent that that matters at all.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Well, I think it's interesting because usually under

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Speaker 4: circumstances like this, you I would think that you would

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Speaker 4: have people that are saying, you know, he's getting unfair

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Speaker 4: treat you know, he's he's being singled out, he's a minority,

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Speaker 4: this is unfair, you know, on those kind of grounds

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Speaker 4: that this is a disparate you know, you'll hear people

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Speaker 4: make disparate impact arguments based on someone's race on a

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Speaker 4: whole range of different This isn't a crime, to be clear,

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Speaker 4: but this is sort of a professional offense. I think

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Speaker 4: it's interesting that have you seen anyone, not just in

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Speaker 4: the sports media and the media generally on the left saying,

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Speaker 4: you know, this is a very prominent, was going to

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Speaker 4: be incredibly wealthy and successful black man who is being

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Speaker 4: treated unfairly.

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Speaker 1: We think he's being treated unfairly. Period.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's interesting that they're not making the

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Speaker 4: case that this guy's being treated unfairly because of his race.

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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's clearly because the the the politics

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Speaker 1: of gender and me too and all that have come

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Speaker 1: into this.

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Speaker 2: It's because you have to believe all women more than

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Speaker 2: like on the on the victimization oppression pyramid woman who alleges,

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Speaker 2: like remember, realize what she's alleging, By the way, Buck,

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Speaker 2: she is alleging non consensual phone sex, and he is

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Speaker 2: being fired for that. We're not talking like the Russell

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Speaker 2: Brand thing that's going on. I haven't investigated that A

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Speaker 2: ton those are at least rape allegations. Like she's not

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Speaker 2: even alleging that he has inappropriate This is a This

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Speaker 2: is not a crime in any jurisdiction or any in

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Speaker 2: any statute that exists anywhere.

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Speaker 4: She's just saying he was dirty talking and I don't

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Speaker 4: like it, or I didn't approve of it.

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Speaker 2: Months later, she like, here's the other thing. This is

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Speaker 2: clearly to me a jilted woman. I think she wanted

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Speaker 2: to be his girlfriend. He recognized, if you look at

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Speaker 2: all the evidence that she was talking about their relationship.

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Speaker 1: He decided to cut it off.

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Speaker 2: She then took it to Michigan State and alleged that

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Speaker 2: it was a Tie nine violation. They have investigated it

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Speaker 2: for months, a twelve hundred page investigation. He's losing eighty

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Speaker 2: million dollars for a thirty six minute phone call.

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Speaker 4: You know what he should do, and I know this

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Speaker 4: is crazy, if we live in crazy times, he should

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Speaker 4: say that he identified as a woman at the time

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Speaker 4: of the call. No Title nine violation. What are they

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Speaker 4: gonna do? What are they gonna do? Title nine now

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Speaker 4: applies or doesn't? Really funny, I don't even know