WEBVTT - Mondays are Still a B*tch! 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.360 Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.440 And Daphne's Ania and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.240 Oh my gosh, we'll find me here. It's so exciting. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.520 Let's see the pearls. Guys. We have like thirty years 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:22.200 of memories. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.599 Hey, do we do an official intro? 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:28.240 It's it's a podcast called Still the Place, Still. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:29.920 The Place, Melo's Place for rewatch podcasts. 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:32.680 Yeah, and Melro's Place was the show that where we 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:33.480 all met. 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.000 In the early By the way, I'm Courtney thorn Smith. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.280 Oh yeah, I'm Laura Layton and I'm Daphne's Anigay. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.800 I like, I'm interviewing you. You're such a cute couple. 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:43.879 Thank you. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.199 We're very happy to get us from my. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.240 Therapist a therapist, you too, on the couch. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.600 Actually, after Melroe's Place, I went into therapy. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.440 If this was couple's therapy, this would not be good. Yeah, 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:56.120 you're happy. 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:57.280 Was ready? 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.720 We want to get you close too, couldn't possibly. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:04.000 It's where our friendship began and where we all met. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.680 And it's thirty two years later. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.520 Almost exactly thirty two years because I did the math 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.679 and we started shooting May eleventh of nineteen ninety two, 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.880 so it's almost exactly thirty two years. And the weird 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.760 thing is we all look exactly the same, Isn't that weirdess? 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:22.039 Because it's a podcast. 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:23.160 The weirdess. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.119 She just thank God for filters. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.360 Can we have filters? I'd like a few filters in life. 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.600 So so excited to be doing this with you guys, 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.440 So excited to just get the time to hang out 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.560 with you guys and talk about the show. I've been 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.399 thinking about all my Melrose memories and so many things 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.959 have been coming to my mind. Do you remember this 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.440 came to me today, made me laugh out loud. Do 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.240 you remember how Jack Wagner, Now remember Heather Locklear was 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.120 the biggest star in the world at the time. How 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.480 Jack Wagner always remembered he couldn't remember her name. Pretend 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.600 he couldn't remember his name, and you would call her Helen. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.520 Where's Helen? Is Helen here? 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.320 Do you remember that we laugh out loud this morning 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:05.280 that that sounds exactly like Jack. Yeah, totally, but he 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:09.560 but Thomas actually did that to me on purpose, really yeah, 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.399 like not kidding. I mean, I thought it was unpurposed, 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.800 like he could never remember my actual name, so you 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.440 just called me by my character names, and I'm finding 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:19.440 there were a lot of us when I yeah, like 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.920 what I think when I'm thinking about Melrose and like 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.080 going back into my memory of it and stuff, I 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.000 don't think of you guys as your character names. I 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.600 think of your names. I'm like, oh, well, remember when 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.880 Courtney had that scene? You know, it's like Courtney had 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.520 that scene instead of like remember when Alison did this. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:39.040 Like I can't quite remember the character's names and connect the. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.160 People because so much time's gone by. 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.760 But back in the day when you know, I know, 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.640 the crew even had like our names, I think, but 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.320 it was like the names and the character like our 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.320 real name because because it was a. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.920 Lot Yeah, so wait, we haven't even said that. So 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.880 like Daphne, you played. 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.960 Joe, Joe, Daphney, I played Joe, right, Joebeth Reynolds, I. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.600 Remember you coming on. I remember you coming on because 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.880 you were very cool, and you like came from the 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.359 movies and you were very cool, and edge were all 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.560 kind of nervous, and it's like you came in and 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.079 you were really cool, and we're all kind of nervous 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:13.600 that you were there. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.800 Wait, and you're Courtney and you played. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.280 I'm Courtney, I played Alison Craker, I'm o rost Place. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:24.119 And I'm Laura Layton and I played Sydney, Andrews, Mancini 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.359 and a bunch of other last names. And now did 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.600 you Andrews. 0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.040 But Laura, when you came on, you didn't start as 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.480 a regular, right, that was expanded. You come in as 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:39.040 I'm already remembering. Josie's character name, Josie was Jane. 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.320 Yeah, see, it was hard guys, and I'm gonna refer 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.360 it was Jose half the time instead of Jane. I'm 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.760 going to refer to her as Jane. Josie's gonna see. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:51.320 I think like the nostalgia factor of it being all 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:52.960 the way back in the nineties, it just seems like 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.160 that was such a different time and place, Like my 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.440 kids even will say weird stuff like I wish I 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.720 lived in the nineties. I'm like, why, what is it 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.920 about the nineties that is appealing to you? 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.080 Like you remember because we grew up in the eighties 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.440 thinking about the sixties and how long ago that was. 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:14.400 The nineties are longer for them ago ago. Yeah, I 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:15.760 know there's a way to say that better, but I 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:17.880 don't know where it is, yeah, right, like that was 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.320 only twenty years This is thirty years ago. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.839 Yeah, but for us, for me anyway, it doesn't feel 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:27.280 that far at all. And yet watching the show or 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.040 remembering specifically things about the nineties. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:31.680 I mean, we look so different. 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:35.919 Everything was colorful, and the hair was high and coming 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.080 out of the eighties, which was all you know, day 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.200 glow and massive amounts of hairspray. Right, But how I 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.840 feel is like it was a couple of literally just 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:47.720 you know, maybe ten years ago. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:48.880 Yeah, maybe a decade now. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.760 Because fashion has changed, it doesn't look that weird. Like 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.520 I checked out in episodes several years ago, it looked insane. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.560 And then getting ready for this, I've looked at some 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.800 episodes the fashion holds up, like my first outfit, which 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.760 I don't remember at all in real time, but I 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.680 was looking at I thought, oh, I would wear that today. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.680 I had a fitted jacket much like the one I 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.800 have on now, but it was bright red and a 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:10.800 black dress. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.400 Because circled back the boxy jacket. 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.360 Many years I thought I would die if my son 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:19.920 saw this, right, I have a sixteen year old son. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.720 He came in last night. I was watching an episode, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.160 and I had on, of course a sheet mask, as 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.159 I do, because you guys know I'm obsessed with skincare. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.000 They had on a sheet mask. You woe, doesn't even 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:30.560 blink anymore? He comes in? How often am I in 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.520 a I saw in a blanket with my led mask on? 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.760 So last night was getch a sheet mask, didn't even blink. 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.280 Shat down and watched for a second. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:38.120 I thought, it. 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.680 Doesn't look that weird, except that my hair was big 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.440 and I looked kind of different. But the clothes were 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.560 right on point. It was almost the same stuff. 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.280 You mean, it's coming back around. 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:51.760 It has come back around. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.120 It insane for twenty years. 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.520 Yeah, and now it's back. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:55.920 Yeah. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.159 I would wear I probably was wearing exactly what I 0:05:59.200 --> 0:05:59.760 was wearing on the. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.640 Show, maybe a little different. Those are some pretty high 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:10.040 shoulder pads. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.960 But apparently shoulder pads are coming back. Remember the shoulder 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.240 pads that we put in our clothes that were what 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.640 was that fabric and then they'd fall down and all 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.800 of a sudden you'd have an extra breast because your shoulder, 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.440 like if it was falling. 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:24.400 Out pads or like places in your shoulders where they 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.200 would fit in and you know, like Denise, our wardrobe 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.560 God would like come and. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:29.919 You know, just fit it in. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.320 So you fit to this square jacket as opposed to 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.839 like getting something that fit you, you know that was 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.039 like shape to you. And I mean I relied so 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.080 much on those shoulder pads. I thought, you know, now 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.400 I feel together and like you feel too slopey without 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.200 a shoulder pad. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.520 Do you know, do you guys have any wardrobe items 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.240 or anything that you took from the show, anything that 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:51.640 you can. 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.680 I don't know. I did take from there. There was 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:59.680 like a maroon and cream skirt that fit me like 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.440 a and I thought I'll wear this forever, but then 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:03.559 it was maroon and cream. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.559 So never found the occasion for maroon and cream. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.760 It didn't come back, but I did for a long time. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.960 I still have my melrose Place hat. And I remember 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:15.360 when when melrose Place was really hot, and Andrew Shoe 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.280 and I were dating, so it felt like there was 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.320 a lot of attention on us. And I went to 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.200 see member Missy and John. Yeah, so, and we went 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.040 to see them for dinner and we were going we 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:26.800 were going out, The four of us were going out 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:30.000 to Universal Studios. When Universal Studios opened and we were 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:31.120 really trying to hide. 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.560 That brave because I can't imagine that was. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:34.880 It was brave, but you know, you can put on 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.040 a baseball hat. It wasn't like now with social media 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:38.880 you could kind of put it on a baseball hat 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.160 and go out under the radar. And we showed up 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.040 at their door and they both had on Melro's Place 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:43.840 baseball hats. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.200 Doesn't mean so much for subtle they didn't wear it. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:49.840 Doesn't that defeat the purpose. 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.120 But remember that hat, it was black. I still have that. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:53.600 I should have wearn that today and it had the 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:58.040 Melrose Place hot. I still had that. I wear it 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.880 all the time, so I don't have to explain who 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:02.200 I I don't Clarious. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:05.080 Do you feel like it was that you were able 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.520 to go out under the radar? Like when do you 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.200 think that changed in like over the course of the show, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.520 Like when did that because I remember it being sort 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.400 of a shocking thing to be, oh my gosh, we 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.920 can't go anywhere without being recognized from the show. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.600 I remember the game when I really well, one of 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.760 the times it really dawned on me was when you 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.160 were with Grant. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.920 So whatever season that was, I was, we were writing 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.640 Harley's to Latline. 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:33.600 At the time, I had my own little I wrote 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.720 a couple of times on the back of Grant's Harley, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:38.600 and then I was like, uh, I want my own, 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:39.640 So I went and got my own. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.680 I took the lessons and everything you were on the 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:43.720 back of Grants. But I'm not that I aways ever 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:44.400 dated Grant. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.040 But anyway, anyway, we go to Laughlin and there was 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.360 just all of these motorcycle writers and you know, it was. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:53.440 Laughlin, Nevada. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.839 So we crossed the state line and there were these 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:59.559 escalators and it was just a mob. And I just 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.120 remember you and Grant and like everyone these Harley Davidson 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.920 like to mix it there and they're like, oh my god, wait, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.720 they're following it, you know, And I just thought, wow, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.600 this is like one of those scenes where there's a 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.600 mass and the escalator and just this massive people recognizing you. 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:16.400 I thought, that's it. 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:21.320 We're stuck on the three of you rode motorcycles to Laughlin, Nevada. Oh, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.400 I'm trying not to focus on I wasn't invited. Whatever, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:25.920 we'll get over it. We'll talk about that. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.800 And a whole motorcycle gang on the show. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:35.440 Really really with us, fascinated like our teamster and Greg. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.440 I think Lacava came. Who else? Oh, there were a 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:40.680 couple others from the crew. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.760 That is so cool. You know what else encouraged me 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.040 last night was you dated Grant in real life, but 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.920 all three of us dated him on the show, So 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.600 we have all kissed Grant show. 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:50.520 Thank you? Everybody? 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.520 Did everybody dated everybody on the show? 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.079 I don't know. Well, let's what, let's wait, we're gonna have. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:58.559 That. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:00.679 I watched the pilot. 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.120 I didn't remember any of it, Like I vaguely remembered 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.520 my audition scene, but I was like. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:06.640 That, what what? 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:06.880 What? 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.920 It's so crazy how much I've forgotten? Remember when we 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.320 did We did a reunion show in New York on 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.120 the twenty fifth anniversary, and they were showing us scenes 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.360 from Melwer's Place, you remember it, and Doug and I upped. 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.079 At some point we were all. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:20.840 Wait, what happened? 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.520 How do I remember a scene? Yeah, Doug and I 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.600 were kidnapped. And the other thing that made me laugh 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.800 is so as you know, Doug was one of the 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:32.360 first gay characters on on Timetime Network TV, and he 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.560 felt like they didn't use him enough. Because they didn't 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:38.080 really know what to do with a gay character. They 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:38.800 weren't really ready. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.080 Ironic Star created and was our showrunner. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.360 Yeah, different time though, so it's really well he was 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:45.640 allowed to write. 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.440 Yes, he was just talk about exactly. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.520 You can really see what a different time it is, right, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.719 how far we've come in that area. But he came 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:54.760 and he had a sign. He made himself a sign 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:58.000 and it said, Hi, I'm Matt. I played Doug because 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:59.760 he hadn't been there it so long. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:04.360 I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise maybe left 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:10.640 so hard. Yeah, but like how the perspective that our 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.520 show at the time was it just like did you 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:18.720 anticipate it becoming this giant hit? I mean it was 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:19.679 like a juggernaut. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.240 Well it wasn't a hit at first. Let me tell you, 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.720 ladies who weren't there in the very beginning, sit down, 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.320 sit on many Let's tell you a story. So in 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:29.920 the beginning, it was a spin off of nine O 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.400 two and note they expected great things. We were sold 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:37.280 for thirteen. I remember doing the opening credits scene on 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.400 Melrose and Grant was sort of recognizable because he'd already 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.280 been on nine O two and O. But nice kids 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.559 and a soap opera and just insanely handsome obviously, right, 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.800 like watching those chos, like how do I even talk 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:53.360 to Grant? Insanely handsome? And we were we were we 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.880 There were all these expectations. It was so much press 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.720 and then nothing happened. It was like eight nice kids 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:03.160 trying to make it. And then Heather came on as 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.480 a bitch, right, that was the that was the poster, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.720 Monday's our bitch, and all of a sudden we had 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.199 someone to play against. And then Thomas's character, Michael Mancini, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.920 turned bad. Was that when you came on? Yes, that's 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.960 when you came on. Yeah, so we had you and 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.120 we had Michael, and we had Heather, and that's when 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.079 it we were I imagine, I don't know the inner workings. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.000 I think we came very close to getting canceled, and 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.200 then all of this new energy came in and we 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.200 weren't just nice kids trying to make it. There was 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.280 all this conflict and drama and then, as you guys know, the. 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.640 Drama just took off. 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.719 Yeah. I was just gonna say, I want to give 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.360 you some perspective because you were saying nobody watched it 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.000 right right the premiere, I'm going to give you it 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.360 statistic which I have to be accurate. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.360 I am so impressed. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:51.440 I believe this to be accurate. The Melrose Place premiere 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:55.760 episode had sixteen million viewers. 0:12:56.040 --> 0:13:00.120 But at the time, yes, what were the top shows getting? 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.200 Like now, that was an insane so. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.760 Right, So I guess I'm gonna have to get back 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:08.600 to you with that. I'm going to have to get. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:09.920 Myself or get your people on that. 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:14.360 By comparison, I will let's compare to for example, today 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.320 the series finale of Breaking Bad, right, I mean giant 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:24.800 current cultural phenomenon, cultural phenomenon. Series finale of Breaking Bad 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:30.280 was ten point three million. Melrose premiered sixteen million, and 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.040 when it was in the height, there was nineteen million 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.480 viewers for like, for say the season two finale of 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.880 Melrose So nineteen million. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.360 That's unheard of today we're watching it. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.960 But also the way they had to watch it was 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.200 at the same time, like we had to. They had 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.920 to make an appointment. Go oh, I have to watch 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.960 on Wednesday night or I will miss it. So sixteen 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.640 million people watch that premiere on the same night, or 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:59.839 we Divo didn't come INUNTI late could record not hard. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.199 You could record it. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:01.800 Like a VHS. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.080 Everybody had a VHS and if they're like if they 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.040 weren't going to be stones riding the bike, and you'd 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.520 have the recording and if you were going to miss 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.520 it on that Wednesday night, you may have to make sure, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:13.440 oh I forgot to set my VCR. Remember that, and 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.319 then they miss it, and then they wouldn't get that 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.080 moment of being able to talk about it the next 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:18.440 day around the water cooler. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:19.760 Like that was a thing, I think. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:24.720 But to your point, it premiered like that because people 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:26.880 had been watching nine O two and zero right, and 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.040 it was like the same vibe is really cool la 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:33.040 vibe but older people in their twenties now. But it 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.360 leads into that because Darren told me so, I live 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.200 with Darren Starr, the creator of this show, in college, 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:43.240 and he said, you know, it's a show when he 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:44.760 called me about coming out to this one. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:45.600 It's a show. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.720 About you know, kids after college and they're trying to 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:50.840 make it on their own. And sure enough, you see 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.920 in the pilot and through the first however many shows, 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.440 that's what it was like, like, how do you pay 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:55.840 the rent? 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.280 And can I keep my job? And da da da, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.840 these things. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.400 That that earrow wasn't covered, that you had thirty something 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.400 and you had nine or two to zero and you 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.680 didn't but you didn't have this the twenties, you know, 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:10.680 you didn't have that on TV and how and because 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.120 that's what he remembers experiencing and that's what so I 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.160 think he really want to do like a thirty something 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.480 but in the twenties and then and then so it 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.280 started big, but that didn't last at first. So I 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.120 came in halfway through the first seasons. I think I 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.520 has been told episode fifteen, there's gonna be a lot 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.680 of you talk and Courtney for the first fifteen. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.400 A lot of questions recording til we get that court yeah, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:34.520 what happened behind the scenes. 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.360 Then oh, you'll have opinions. I know, both of you. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:41.000 And the thing that these filmmakers did is that you 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.720 go with where the juice is and when they made 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.800 Michael a villain because he was kind of an asshole anyway, 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.120 and then he just went and then boom it. Then 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.680 it started to pick up and then they brought in 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.240 Heather and I came in there somewhere around there but 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:57.240 I wasn't a bad girl. 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.760 I was and then they brought it and have Ben 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.400 just went with it and made her the ultimate bitch. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.160 And then you guys had all that, you know, and 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.400 then you went crazy and all that. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.920 But what I love is, oh, I thought they were hoping. 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:13.320 They were hoping it was going to be a hit 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.840 for one reason, and that didn't fly, and they just 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.320 pivoted and it became bigger than they imagined. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:19.840 I think. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.640 So I just think that's a cool story because it's real, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.800 and I think that that's really valuable to know in life. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:26.160 Anyway. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.560 I love that we get to watch it again and 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.840 in real time, sort of as it was meant to be, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.520 you know, as it was is this one went first, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.640 and here's how it was in the beginning and the 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.360 evolution of it. We get to rewatch that and see 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.240 that evolution again and sort of compare it to how 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.360 we remember it versus how it's going to feel watching 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:46.360 it the second time, and you're. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.360 Going to be surprised how little you remember. Like I remember, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.920 I remember, oh, I remember shooting the pilot, I remember 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.160 how we Deutsche directed it, I remember the people, but 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.120 watching the scenes, I don't remember any of them. It 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.680 was watching it and knew it was fascinating. And as 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.600 you were saying about people having to watch it on 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.880 that day, like what people? I still people talking about 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.440 Melo's Place more than anything I've ever done. I've worked 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.120 a longer. I did a lot of things after Melo's 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.880 Place because it was a time in their lives. That's 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:15.240 why I love our title still the Place. Because I 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.600 was at my son's friend's house and his dad was 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:22.560 telling me. His dad's this big heart, the big back surgeon, 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.439 and he was telling me how in college he and 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.520 his friends watched Meloe's Place and he wrote an article 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:32.199 for their paper, like an update on Melroe's Place, like 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.720 this guy he was a black surgeon. He was like blogging, 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:39.840 but actually on paper. It's a time. People remember it 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.520 as they were in college, they got together with their friends. 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.720 How many times in a week do people stop you 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.159 and say, I lived on Meloe's Place. I lived in 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:48.639