Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Ania and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we'll find me here. It's so exciting.
Speaker 4: Let's see the pearls. Guys. We have like thirty years
Speaker 4: of memories.
Speaker 1: Hey, do we do an official intro?
Speaker 3: It's it's a podcast called Still the Place, Still.
Speaker 1: The Place, Melo's Place for rewatch podcasts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Melro's Place was the show that where we
Speaker 3: all met.
Speaker 1: In the early By the way, I'm Courtney thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm Laura Layton and I'm Daphne's Anigay.
Speaker 4: I like, I'm interviewing you. You're such a cute couple.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: We're very happy to get us from my.
Speaker 4: Therapist a therapist, you too, on the couch.
Speaker 2: Actually, after Melroe's Place, I went into therapy.
Speaker 1: If this was couple's therapy, this would not be good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're happy.
Speaker 3: Was ready?
Speaker 1: We want to get you close too, couldn't possibly.
Speaker 3: It's where our friendship began and where we all met.
Speaker 3: And it's thirty two years later.
Speaker 1: Almost exactly thirty two years because I did the math
Speaker 1: and we started shooting May eleventh of nineteen ninety two,
Speaker 1: so it's almost exactly thirty two years. And the weird
Speaker 1: thing is we all look exactly the same, Isn't that weirdess?
Speaker 3: Because it's a podcast.
Speaker 1: The weirdess.
Speaker 4: She just thank God for filters.
Speaker 1: Can we have filters? I'd like a few filters in life.
Speaker 1: So so excited to be doing this with you guys,
Speaker 1: So excited to just get the time to hang out
Speaker 1: with you guys and talk about the show. I've been
Speaker 1: thinking about all my Melrose memories and so many things
Speaker 1: have been coming to my mind. Do you remember this
Speaker 1: came to me today, made me laugh out loud. Do
Speaker 1: you remember how Jack Wagner, Now remember Heather Locklear was
Speaker 1: the biggest star in the world at the time. How
Speaker 1: Jack Wagner always remembered he couldn't remember her name. Pretend
Speaker 1: he couldn't remember his name, and you would call her Helen.
Speaker 1: Where's Helen? Is Helen here?
Speaker 3: Do you remember that we laugh out loud this morning
Speaker 3: that that sounds exactly like Jack. Yeah, totally, but he
Speaker 3: but Thomas actually did that to me on purpose, really yeah,
Speaker 3: like not kidding. I mean, I thought it was unpurposed,
Speaker 3: like he could never remember my actual name, so you
Speaker 3: just called me by my character names, and I'm finding
Speaker 3: there were a lot of us when I yeah, like
Speaker 3: what I think when I'm thinking about Melrose and like
Speaker 3: going back into my memory of it and stuff, I
Speaker 3: don't think of you guys as your character names. I
Speaker 3: think of your names. I'm like, oh, well, remember when
Speaker 3: Courtney had that scene? You know, it's like Courtney had
Speaker 3: that scene instead of like remember when Alison did this.
Speaker 3: Like I can't quite remember the character's names and connect the.
Speaker 4: People because so much time's gone by.
Speaker 2: But back in the day when you know, I know,
Speaker 2: the crew even had like our names, I think, but
Speaker 2: it was like the names and the character like our
Speaker 2: real name because because it was a.
Speaker 3: Lot Yeah, so wait, we haven't even said that. So
Speaker 3: like Daphne, you played.
Speaker 2: Joe, Joe, Daphney, I played Joe, right, Joebeth Reynolds, I.
Speaker 1: Remember you coming on. I remember you coming on because
Speaker 1: you were very cool, and you like came from the
Speaker 1: movies and you were very cool, and edge were all
Speaker 1: kind of nervous, and it's like you came in and
Speaker 1: you were really cool, and we're all kind of nervous
Speaker 1: that you were there.
Speaker 3: Wait, and you're Courtney and you played.
Speaker 1: I'm Courtney, I played Alison Craker, I'm o rost Place.
Speaker 3: And I'm Laura Layton and I played Sydney, Andrews, Mancini
Speaker 3: and a bunch of other last names. And now did
Speaker 3: you Andrews.
Speaker 1: But Laura, when you came on, you didn't start as
Speaker 1: a regular, right, that was expanded. You come in as
Speaker 1: I'm already remembering. Josie's character name, Josie was Jane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see, it was hard guys, and I'm gonna refer
Speaker 3: it was Jose half the time instead of Jane. I'm
Speaker 3: going to refer to her as Jane. Josie's gonna see.
Speaker 3: I think like the nostalgia factor of it being all
Speaker 3: the way back in the nineties, it just seems like
Speaker 3: that was such a different time and place, Like my
Speaker 3: kids even will say weird stuff like I wish I
Speaker 3: lived in the nineties. I'm like, why, what is it
Speaker 3: about the nineties that is appealing to you?
Speaker 1: Like you remember because we grew up in the eighties
Speaker 1: thinking about the sixties and how long ago that was.
Speaker 1: The nineties are longer for them ago ago. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know there's a way to say that better, but I
Speaker 1: don't know where it is, yeah, right, like that was
Speaker 1: only twenty years This is thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but for us, for me anyway, it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: that far at all. And yet watching the show or
Speaker 2: remembering specifically things about the nineties.
Speaker 4: I mean, we look so different.
Speaker 2: Everything was colorful, and the hair was high and coming
Speaker 2: out of the eighties, which was all you know, day
Speaker 2: glow and massive amounts of hairspray. Right, But how I
Speaker 2: feel is like it was a couple of literally just
Speaker 2: you know, maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a decade now.
Speaker 1: Because fashion has changed, it doesn't look that weird. Like
Speaker 1: I checked out in episodes several years ago, it looked insane.
Speaker 1: And then getting ready for this, I've looked at some
Speaker 1: episodes the fashion holds up, like my first outfit, which
Speaker 1: I don't remember at all in real time, but I
Speaker 1: was looking at I thought, oh, I would wear that today.
Speaker 1: I had a fitted jacket much like the one I
Speaker 1: have on now, but it was bright red and a
Speaker 1: black dress.
Speaker 3: Because circled back the boxy jacket.
Speaker 1: Many years I thought I would die if my son
Speaker 1: saw this, right, I have a sixteen year old son.
Speaker 1: He came in last night. I was watching an episode,
Speaker 1: and I had on, of course a sheet mask, as
Speaker 1: I do, because you guys know I'm obsessed with skincare.
Speaker 1: They had on a sheet mask. You woe, doesn't even
Speaker 1: blink anymore? He comes in? How often am I in
Speaker 1: a I saw in a blanket with my led mask on?
Speaker 1: So last night was getch a sheet mask, didn't even blink.
Speaker 1: Shat down and watched for a second.
Speaker 4: I thought, it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't look that weird, except that my hair was big
Speaker 1: and I looked kind of different. But the clothes were
Speaker 1: right on point. It was almost the same stuff.
Speaker 4: You mean, it's coming back around.
Speaker 3: It has come back around.
Speaker 1: It insane for twenty years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now it's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would wear I probably was wearing exactly what I
Speaker 1: was wearing on the.
Speaker 2: Show, maybe a little different. Those are some pretty high
Speaker 2: shoulder pads.
Speaker 1: But apparently shoulder pads are coming back. Remember the shoulder
Speaker 1: pads that we put in our clothes that were what
Speaker 1: was that fabric and then they'd fall down and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you'd have an extra breast because your shoulder,
Speaker 1: like if it was falling.
Speaker 2: Out pads or like places in your shoulders where they
Speaker 2: would fit in and you know, like Denise, our wardrobe
Speaker 2: God would like come and.
Speaker 4: You know, just fit it in.
Speaker 2: So you fit to this square jacket as opposed to
Speaker 2: like getting something that fit you, you know that was
Speaker 2: like shape to you. And I mean I relied so
Speaker 2: much on those shoulder pads. I thought, you know, now
Speaker 2: I feel together and like you feel too slopey without
Speaker 2: a shoulder pad.
Speaker 3: Do you know, do you guys have any wardrobe items
Speaker 3: or anything that you took from the show, anything that
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I did take from there. There was
Speaker 1: like a maroon and cream skirt that fit me like
Speaker 1: a and I thought I'll wear this forever, but then
Speaker 1: it was maroon and cream.
Speaker 3: So never found the occasion for maroon and cream.
Speaker 1: It didn't come back, but I did for a long time.
Speaker 1: I still have my melrose Place hat. And I remember
Speaker 1: when when melrose Place was really hot, and Andrew Shoe
Speaker 1: and I were dating, so it felt like there was
Speaker 1: a lot of attention on us. And I went to
Speaker 1: see member Missy and John. Yeah, so, and we went
Speaker 1: to see them for dinner and we were going we
Speaker 1: were going out, The four of us were going out
Speaker 1: to Universal Studios. When Universal Studios opened and we were
Speaker 1: really trying to hide.
Speaker 3: That brave because I can't imagine that was.
Speaker 1: It was brave, but you know, you can put on
Speaker 1: a baseball hat. It wasn't like now with social media
Speaker 1: you could kind of put it on a baseball hat
Speaker 1: and go out under the radar. And we showed up
Speaker 1: at their door and they both had on Melro's Place
Speaker 1: baseball hats.
Speaker 4: Doesn't mean so much for subtle they didn't wear it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't that defeat the purpose.
Speaker 1: But remember that hat, it was black. I still have that.
Speaker 1: I should have wearn that today and it had the
Speaker 1: Melrose Place hot. I still had that. I wear it
Speaker 1: all the time, so I don't have to explain who
Speaker 1: I I don't Clarious.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it was that you were able
Speaker 3: to go out under the radar? Like when do you
Speaker 3: think that changed in like over the course of the show,
Speaker 3: Like when did that because I remember it being sort
Speaker 3: of a shocking thing to be, oh my gosh, we
Speaker 3: can't go anywhere without being recognized from the show.
Speaker 2: I remember the game when I really well, one of
Speaker 2: the times it really dawned on me was when you
Speaker 2: were with Grant.
Speaker 4: So whatever season that was, I was, we were writing
Speaker 4: Harley's to Latline.
Speaker 2: At the time, I had my own little I wrote
Speaker 2: a couple of times on the back of Grant's Harley,
Speaker 2: and then I was like, uh, I want my own,
Speaker 2: So I went and got my own.
Speaker 4: I took the lessons and everything you were on the
Speaker 4: back of Grants. But I'm not that I aways ever
Speaker 4: dated Grant.
Speaker 2: But anyway, anyway, we go to Laughlin and there was
Speaker 2: just all of these motorcycle writers and you know, it was.
Speaker 4: Laughlin, Nevada.
Speaker 2: So we crossed the state line and there were these
Speaker 2: escalators and it was just a mob. And I just
Speaker 2: remember you and Grant and like everyone these Harley Davidson
Speaker 2: like to mix it there and they're like, oh my god, wait,
Speaker 2: they're following it, you know, And I just thought, wow,
Speaker 2: this is like one of those scenes where there's a
Speaker 2: mass and the escalator and just this massive people recognizing you.
Speaker 4: I thought, that's it.
Speaker 1: We're stuck on the three of you rode motorcycles to Laughlin, Nevada. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to focus on I wasn't invited. Whatever,
Speaker 1: we'll get over it. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 4: And a whole motorcycle gang on the show.
Speaker 2: Really really with us, fascinated like our teamster and Greg.
Speaker 4: I think Lacava came. Who else? Oh, there were a
Speaker 4: couple others from the crew.
Speaker 1: That is so cool. You know what else encouraged me
Speaker 1: last night was you dated Grant in real life, but
Speaker 1: all three of us dated him on the show, So
Speaker 1: we have all kissed Grant show.
Speaker 4: Thank you? Everybody?
Speaker 1: Did everybody dated everybody on the show?
Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, let's what, let's wait, we're gonna have.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 4: I watched the pilot.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember any of it, Like I vaguely remembered
Speaker 1: my audition scene, but I was like.
Speaker 4: That, what what?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: It's so crazy how much I've forgotten? Remember when we
Speaker 1: did We did a reunion show in New York on
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth anniversary, and they were showing us scenes
Speaker 1: from Melwer's Place, you remember it, and Doug and I upped.
Speaker 1: At some point we were all.
Speaker 4: Wait, what happened?
Speaker 1: How do I remember a scene? Yeah, Doug and I
Speaker 1: were kidnapped. And the other thing that made me laugh
Speaker 1: is so as you know, Doug was one of the
Speaker 1: first gay characters on on Timetime Network TV, and he
Speaker 1: felt like they didn't use him enough. Because they didn't
Speaker 1: really know what to do with a gay character. They
Speaker 1: weren't really ready.
Speaker 4: Ironic Star created and was our showrunner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, different time though, so it's really well he was
Speaker 1: allowed to write.
Speaker 4: Yes, he was just talk about exactly.
Speaker 1: You can really see what a different time it is, right,
Speaker 1: how far we've come in that area. But he came
Speaker 1: and he had a sign. He made himself a sign
Speaker 1: and it said, Hi, I'm Matt. I played Doug because
Speaker 1: he hadn't been there it so long.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise maybe left
Speaker 3: so hard. Yeah, but like how the perspective that our
Speaker 3: show at the time was it just like did you
Speaker 3: anticipate it becoming this giant hit? I mean it was
Speaker 3: like a juggernaut.
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't a hit at first. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: ladies who weren't there in the very beginning, sit down,
Speaker 1: sit on many Let's tell you a story. So in
Speaker 1: the beginning, it was a spin off of nine O
Speaker 1: two and note they expected great things. We were sold
Speaker 1: for thirteen. I remember doing the opening credits scene on
Speaker 1: Melrose and Grant was sort of recognizable because he'd already
Speaker 1: been on nine O two and O. But nice kids
Speaker 1: and a soap opera and just insanely handsome obviously, right,
Speaker 1: like watching those chos, like how do I even talk
Speaker 1: to Grant? Insanely handsome? And we were we were we
Speaker 1: There were all these expectations. It was so much press
Speaker 1: and then nothing happened. It was like eight nice kids
Speaker 1: trying to make it. And then Heather came on as
Speaker 1: a bitch, right, that was the that was the poster,
Speaker 1: Monday's our bitch, and all of a sudden we had
Speaker 1: someone to play against. And then Thomas's character, Michael Mancini,
Speaker 1: turned bad. Was that when you came on? Yes, that's
Speaker 1: when you came on. Yeah, so we had you and
Speaker 1: we had Michael, and we had Heather, and that's when
Speaker 1: it we were I imagine, I don't know the inner workings.
Speaker 1: I think we came very close to getting canceled, and
Speaker 1: then all of this new energy came in and we
Speaker 1: weren't just nice kids trying to make it. There was
Speaker 1: all this conflict and drama and then, as you guys know, the.
Speaker 4: Drama just took off.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just gonna say, I want to give
Speaker 3: you some perspective because you were saying nobody watched it
Speaker 3: right right the premiere, I'm going to give you it
Speaker 3: statistic which I have to be accurate.
Speaker 1: I am so impressed.
Speaker 3: I believe this to be accurate. The Melrose Place premiere
Speaker 3: episode had sixteen million viewers.
Speaker 1: But at the time, yes, what were the top shows getting?
Speaker 1: Like now, that was an insane so.
Speaker 3: Right, So I guess I'm gonna have to get back
Speaker 3: to you with that. I'm going to have to get.
Speaker 1: Myself or get your people on that.
Speaker 3: By comparison, I will let's compare to for example, today
Speaker 3: the series finale of Breaking Bad, right, I mean giant
Speaker 3: current cultural phenomenon, cultural phenomenon. Series finale of Breaking Bad
Speaker 3: was ten point three million. Melrose premiered sixteen million, and
Speaker 3: when it was in the height, there was nineteen million
Speaker 3: viewers for like, for say the season two finale of
Speaker 3: Melrose So nineteen million.
Speaker 1: That's unheard of today we're watching it.
Speaker 3: But also the way they had to watch it was
Speaker 3: at the same time, like we had to. They had
Speaker 3: to make an appointment. Go oh, I have to watch
Speaker 3: on Wednesday night or I will miss it. So sixteen
Speaker 3: million people watch that premiere on the same night, or
Speaker 3: we Divo didn't come INUNTI late could record not hard.
Speaker 1: You could record it.
Speaker 4: Like a VHS.
Speaker 3: Everybody had a VHS and if they're like if they
Speaker 3: weren't going to be stones riding the bike, and you'd
Speaker 3: have the recording and if you were going to miss
Speaker 3: it on that Wednesday night, you may have to make sure,
Speaker 3: oh I forgot to set my VCR. Remember that, and
Speaker 3: then they miss it, and then they wouldn't get that
Speaker 3: moment of being able to talk about it the next
Speaker 3: day around the water cooler.
Speaker 4: Like that was a thing, I think.
Speaker 2: But to your point, it premiered like that because people
Speaker 2: had been watching nine O two and zero right, and
Speaker 2: it was like the same vibe is really cool la
Speaker 2: vibe but older people in their twenties now. But it
Speaker 2: leads into that because Darren told me so, I live
Speaker 2: with Darren Starr, the creator of this show, in college,
Speaker 2: and he said, you know, it's a show when he
Speaker 2: called me about coming out to this one.
Speaker 4: It's a show.
Speaker 2: About you know, kids after college and they're trying to
Speaker 2: make it on their own. And sure enough, you see
Speaker 2: in the pilot and through the first however many shows,
Speaker 2: that's what it was like, like, how do you pay
Speaker 2: the rent?
Speaker 4: And can I keep my job? And da da da,
Speaker 4: these things.
Speaker 2: That that earrow wasn't covered, that you had thirty something
Speaker 2: and you had nine or two to zero and you
Speaker 2: didn't but you didn't have this the twenties, you know,
Speaker 2: you didn't have that on TV and how and because
Speaker 2: that's what he remembers experiencing and that's what so I
Speaker 2: think he really want to do like a thirty something
Speaker 2: but in the twenties and then and then so it
Speaker 2: started big, but that didn't last at first. So I
Speaker 2: came in halfway through the first seasons. I think I
Speaker 2: has been told episode fifteen, there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of you talk and Courtney for the first fifteen.
Speaker 3: A lot of questions recording til we get that court yeah,
Speaker 3: what happened behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Then oh, you'll have opinions. I know, both of you.
Speaker 2: And the thing that these filmmakers did is that you
Speaker 2: go with where the juice is and when they made
Speaker 2: Michael a villain because he was kind of an asshole anyway,
Speaker 2: and then he just went and then boom it. Then
Speaker 2: it started to pick up and then they brought in
Speaker 2: Heather and I came in there somewhere around there but
Speaker 2: I wasn't a bad girl.
Speaker 4: I was and then they brought it and have Ben
Speaker 4: just went with it and made her the ultimate bitch.
Speaker 2: And then you guys had all that, you know, and
Speaker 2: then you went crazy and all that.
Speaker 4: But what I love is, oh, I thought they were hoping.
Speaker 2: They were hoping it was going to be a hit
Speaker 2: for one reason, and that didn't fly, and they just
Speaker 2: pivoted and it became bigger than they imagined.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: So I just think that's a cool story because it's real,
Speaker 2: and I think that that's really valuable to know in life.
Speaker 4: Anyway.
Speaker 3: I love that we get to watch it again and
Speaker 3: in real time, sort of as it was meant to be,
Speaker 3: you know, as it was is this one went first,
Speaker 3: and here's how it was in the beginning and the
Speaker 3: evolution of it. We get to rewatch that and see
Speaker 3: that evolution again and sort of compare it to how
Speaker 3: we remember it versus how it's going to feel watching
Speaker 3: it the second time, and you're.
Speaker 1: Going to be surprised how little you remember. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: I remember, oh, I remember shooting the pilot, I remember
Speaker 1: how we Deutsche directed it, I remember the people, but
Speaker 1: watching the scenes, I don't remember any of them. It
Speaker 1: was watching it and knew it was fascinating. And as
Speaker 1: you were saying about people having to watch it on
Speaker 1: that day, like what people? I still people talking about
Speaker 1: Melo's Place more than anything I've ever done. I've worked
Speaker 1: a longer. I did a lot of things after Melo's
Speaker 1: Place because it was a time in their lives. That's
Speaker 1: why I love our title still the Place. Because I
Speaker 1: was at my son's friend's house and his dad was
Speaker 1: telling me. His dad's this big heart, the big back surgeon,
Speaker 1: and he was telling me how in college he and
Speaker 1: his friends watched Meloe's Place and he wrote an article
Speaker 1: for their paper, like an update on Melroe's Place, like
Speaker 1: this guy he was a black surgeon. He was like blogging,
Speaker 1: but actually on paper. It's a time. People remember it
Speaker 1: as they were in college, they got together with their friends.
Speaker 1: How many times in a week do people stop you
Speaker 1: and say, I lived on Meloe's Place. I lived in
Speaker 1: an apartment building with a pool.
Speaker 4: Yep, right, well it used to be like that, I
Speaker 4: think people.
Speaker 2: I think to your point, it was it felt like
Speaker 2: a time and we need it now, you know, like
Speaker 2: just ape and a time that you remember that time
Speaker 2: that life was I don't know, simpler, or you connected
Speaker 2: more in real life, or you went next door for
Speaker 2: advice to your neighbors if you lived in that apartment.
Speaker 4: And I just feel like people you know, talked about
Speaker 4: that experience.
Speaker 2: Of being an apartment building a lot and then talking
Speaker 2: about the show at the water cooler, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, and getting together to watch it. People got together
Speaker 1: watch it every Yeah, Like now we're all in our
Speaker 1: own little world on our own devices watching shows Now.
Speaker 1: I watch things sometimes concurrently with friends and we're texting
Speaker 1: while we're watching it. That's why Game of Thrones was
Speaker 1: exciting because people wanted to watch that in real time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so rare. But Melrose was that and if you
Speaker 1: didn't watch it the next day and people were talking
Speaker 1: about it, it was a bonding experience. You don't get
Speaker 1: that as often.
Speaker 3: Now, And I think that's what makes it different from
Speaker 3: like what watching shows are now, is like that experience
Speaker 3: of I remember where I was when I watched it
Speaker 3: and who I watched it with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that day I binged six or eight yep,
Speaker 1: like that episode and the next day, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well you could all be like do you can you
Speaker 4: believe that this happened. Can you believe that? And what
Speaker 4: was she wearing anyway? The belt around the vest. I'm
Speaker 4: going to look into that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: The water cooler conversation, that was the real thing. People
Speaker 3: actually had a time that watched it, and the next
Speaker 3: table was a big conversation about it. And it's just
Speaker 3: different now with being able to stream and watch whatever
Speaker 3: you want whenever you want, you don't have that water
Speaker 3: cooler moment. And so I feel like our podcast is
Speaker 3: like we're doing it again, where our conversation after watching
Speaker 3: it is our water cooler conversation is like we just
Speaker 3: watched episode one and we get to have the water
Speaker 3: cooler conversation, but it.
Speaker 1: All over again that way that's horrible.
Speaker 3: And we get to do it one episode at a time.
Speaker 3: I can't I can't wait to see it unfold. And
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna like I'm not going to binge ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm going to do it in time, like when we're
Speaker 3: doing our episodes of the podcast. I mean, just watch
Speaker 3: that episode. I just want to have that experience.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could watch more than one. It's
Speaker 1: kind of overwhelming, right, Like it was such a time
Speaker 1: and place in my life, and like I said, I
Speaker 1: don't remember for any of it, so I'm watching it anew.
Speaker 1: But I think one at a time is perfect, and
Speaker 1: I love that way of thinking about it, of like
Speaker 1: as fans watching the show again because there's enough distance.
Speaker 1: Although I will say, like I want to say, there's
Speaker 1: enough distance that I can watch myself. It's still hard,
Speaker 1: but I was watching. When I did watch the pilots
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my legs. I would kill for those legs today. And
Speaker 1: I thought I was so hard on myself about my
Speaker 1: body right.
Speaker 3: Exactly, like we.
Speaker 1: Never know. It is so heartbreaking now to look back
Speaker 1: at that young woman. I don't do that to myself anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm not mean to myself about my body, my more,
Speaker 1: thank you God. But I was looking at myself, going,
Speaker 1: I wish i'd known how adorable I was, right, like
Speaker 1: you never know at that time. So I think this
Speaker 1: will be healing too, to like connect to that younger
Speaker 1: version of ourselves. Yeah, and just be really sweet and
Speaker 1: generous to those young women we.
Speaker 3: Were and for all the young women out there.
Speaker 4: There's so much to talk about.
Speaker 2: Where I'm talking about the capturing the essence of an
Speaker 2: entire decade. And then but I wasn't there from the
Speaker 2: very beginning. You said, you remember when I came on.
Speaker 2: I remember coming on. You know, this is eight years
Speaker 2: after doing movies, and things were movies lasted longer, and
Speaker 2: also like you're with a certain group of people and
Speaker 2: then it's over. And then for me, like right before
Speaker 2: I came on, there wasn't a lot going on, and
Speaker 2: I was like.
Speaker 4: What do I do in between?
Speaker 3: I was really frustrated.
Speaker 4: I just love to work and act.
Speaker 2: And I remember walking with my manager at the time,
Speaker 2: Brian Metavoy, were walking somewhere in Westwood and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just want to act.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 2: And I had done some India where I played a
Speaker 2: This is after some studio movies that I did.
Speaker 4: I was playing a serial killer.
Speaker 2: And then that when I was like, please help me
Speaker 2: with like, you know something I want to play and
Speaker 2: he's like, daf don't you worry. In this business things
Speaker 2: turn on a dime. And that week I got a
Speaker 2: call from Darren Star, who I said we were friends,
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, dafh, I know you don't do TV,
Speaker 2: but you know I'm doing this show. It's called Melro's
Speaker 2: Place and da da da, he described it, and I
Speaker 2: just thought it was a big decision to go do
Speaker 2: TV after film because we're very separate then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was so separate then.
Speaker 2: But my gut was like, you get to act every day,
Speaker 2: you know, so for as long as this last, you
Speaker 2: just get to act, and you know you're going to
Speaker 2: meet all these people.
Speaker 4: And so when I came in, I.
Speaker 2: Was so excited, also nervous because you guys had been
Speaker 2: doing it for like fifteen episodes already and you had.
Speaker 4: It down, but I wasn't there from the beginning. So
Speaker 4: that's my coming into it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So did you audition at all?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I didn't, Lucky.
Speaker 4: Those are the actually sorry, I'm sorry only for Aaron Spolling.
Speaker 4: I think I did because I remember being in Aaron's
Speaker 4: office and yeah, Darren was there with me, and he
Speaker 4: wrote a scene for Joe.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm introducing this new character, so she's from
Speaker 2: New York blah blah blah, and he had written something
Speaker 2: for me. So I just went in and did it
Speaker 2: and and I had a great time with with Aaron
Speaker 2: Spelling and.
Speaker 4: Duke was in there, Duke Vincent was in there, and
Speaker 4: we were in Aaron's spelling. Oh yeah, so anyway it was.
Speaker 2: And then uh yeah, then I was going to start
Speaker 2: right away. I also anyway, I'm just saying this because
Speaker 2: I wanted to like give a lead into where it
Speaker 2: because we all came from different places, different experiences.
Speaker 4: You were there from the beginning, you had done.
Speaker 3: I want to hear all about that, Like what that Alura.
Speaker 4: You were kind of just starting.
Speaker 1: I'm just well, I had been I had been auditioning.
Speaker 1: I was doing like TV and movies, and at that time,
Speaker 1: like I said, it was really separate, not like now
Speaker 1: where movie stars are doing limited TV and TV. It's
Speaker 1: all sort of one big pile now, right, it's all
Speaker 1: It's very different to the time. It was very separate,
Speaker 1: and I was getting very close to movies down to
Speaker 1: the final two, down to the final three, and not
Speaker 1: getting it. And it was always like there was a
Speaker 1: bigger name. There was a bigger name. And I had
Speaker 1: been auditioning at with Aaron and Aaron Spelling for this
Speaker 1: doctor show. It was called Partners, and it was one
Speaker 1: of those where you go back every day every day
Speaker 1: and you're paired up, and you're paired up one of
Speaker 1: those grinds right every day, every and I didn't get it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm out, I'm done. And at
Speaker 1: the end of the final audition, Aaron said, we're gonna
Speaker 1: work with you kid, like old Hollywood, and I sort
Speaker 1: of rolled my eyes like yeah, whatever. And I woke
Speaker 1: up the next day and I opened my front door
Speaker 1: and there was a stack of scripts from Airli like
Speaker 1: something up from Spelling. There was a stack of scripts.
Speaker 3: Remember when they delivered actual scripts.
Speaker 1: They delivered actual scripts. You'd go open in the morning
Speaker 1: every pages and and my agent and I were talking
Speaker 1: about it was like, well, there's this thing. It's a
Speaker 1: spinoff of nine er two and one. And he said, look,
Speaker 1: it will probably get your name out there, and then
Speaker 1: you'll have more opportunity, Like even if it only goes
Speaker 1: like thirteen episodes, it'll get your name out there, and
Speaker 1: then you'll have a name and it'll give you more
Speaker 1: power to get other things. And I went in and
Speaker 1: it was as opposed to the Partner Show, which had
Speaker 1: been a grind and a grind. It was one of
Speaker 1: those things where it's just you walk through the open door,
Speaker 1: right like this podcast has felt like that, Like it's
Speaker 1: just we had the idea and then it was just
Speaker 1: walked through the open doors. It was really easy when
Speaker 1: things are meant to be, and that was one of
Speaker 1: those things. I just went from audition to audition to audition.
Speaker 3: You're in Did you have like chemistry reads or any
Speaker 3: of that stuff, like when you were testing and did
Speaker 3: you test?
Speaker 1: I tested? Actually before Andrew got cast, there was a
Speaker 1: really wonderful Canadian actor named Stephen Fanning and we tested
Speaker 1: together and he was amazing. And then as happens, you know,
Speaker 1: we've all we'll talk about this when we get to
Speaker 1: the pilot, but you know, I don't know anyone who
Speaker 1: hasn't get fired. Have you been fired? Yes, I've been fired.
Speaker 1: Have you been fired?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Wow, we have to talk to you about something. This
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable to do in high school.
Speaker 3: I worked.
Speaker 4: I believe I was.
Speaker 1: Fired, but it just for whatever reason, they didn't think
Speaker 1: it worked on the day. And then I'll tell that
Speaker 1: Andrew audition story when we do the pilot. It's a
Speaker 1: crazy story. And it was just sort of like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where I'm supposed to be, like not banging
Speaker 1: on George closed, George closed, George Closure. Then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you make a turn and there it was.
Speaker 1: And it was so weird because I don't think there
Speaker 1: are people like Aaron Spelling anymore. He had that beautiful,
Speaker 1: huge office and smoked cigars and literally, we're gonna work together.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right, And he remember he'd hug you and
Speaker 1: he was so thin because he picked all those cigars, remember,
Speaker 1: and then and he meant it like I thought, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he meant it that stuff. I don't think
Speaker 1: that happens anymore. So that was my story. Laura Old.
Speaker 3: Oh, Well, I I had not worked as an actress,
Speaker 3: but Melrose was my first job. So I was in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety two. Well, I had done like a couple
Speaker 3: of commercials and stuff like that, but literally this was
Speaker 3: my first job. And so and the audition came to me.
Speaker 3: It was a two episode guest star, which I thought, well,
Speaker 3: that's a lot, Like it's not just a it's not
Speaker 3: just a HW may I help you, like I'm your
Speaker 3: server role and that's I just get the one line.
Speaker 3: I got two whole episodes where there was a storyline
Speaker 3: and a whole character, and I had to like figure
Speaker 3: out how to flash that character out. And I really,
Speaker 3: you know, like, oh my god, this is huge to
Speaker 3: get two episodes as my first job was huge and
Speaker 3: not just a hi, how are you so? Yeah. So
Speaker 3: my audition process was a series of auditions just to
Speaker 3: like I had to start. And at the time, our
Speaker 3: casting director said, you know, you might be right for
Speaker 3: this guest star playing the younger sister of Josie Bizzett
Speaker 3: on this new show called Melrose Place. You might be
Speaker 3: right for the younger sister, but you have to pre
Speaker 3: read because I can't bring you to producers if you can't,
Speaker 3: you know, like pull it off or whatever. I'm like, sure,
Speaker 3: I'll do that, okay, you know, so we I pre
Speaker 3: prepared my material and I auditioned for him, and he's like,
Speaker 3: all right, yeah you could, you could maybe pull this off.
Speaker 3: I'll bring you to the next sort of level, the
Speaker 3: next And so you go from that to reading in
Speaker 3: front of the producers and then they might ask you
Speaker 3: back again for another read with producers. And so I
Speaker 3: sort of went through the process that way and they
Speaker 3: kept going okay, yeah, yeah, maybe you know okay, And
Speaker 3: I was up against when it came down to deciding
Speaker 3: if I was going to get the role. It was
Speaker 3: me and another actress who had far more experience, because
Speaker 3: everybody had farmed time. And so they brought us, the
Speaker 3: two of us to Aaron Spelling's giant office suites on
Speaker 3: Welsh Boulevard to have him make the decision. And so
Speaker 3: we did. We were in that same giant suite of
Speaker 3: offices and we both read and and I sort of
Speaker 3: found out right after that I had right after that
Speaker 3: I had won the role. And one of my things
Speaker 3: was that I had worn a leather jacket as the
Speaker 3: character is like, yeah, this is you know, this is
Speaker 3: how I think she would be and whatever. And I
Speaker 3: had worn this leather jacket and mister Spelling had said,
Speaker 3: I like the jacket, keep the jacket.
Speaker 5: Sidney wears the jacket.
Speaker 3: So I ended up wearing my leather jacket, I believe
Speaker 3: in my first appearance on the show. And yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, my my big insecurity at the time, besides
Speaker 3: not knowing what the heck I was doing as an
Speaker 3: actress at all, was I looked up Josie and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, she's beautiful and she's younger
Speaker 3: than I am, and I'm supposed to be her younger sister.
Speaker 5: Nobody's gonna buy it.
Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna believe me. Nobody's gonna believe that we're related
Speaker 3: because she's so pretty, and I can't. Nobody's gonna believe
Speaker 3: that we're sister. Like, I was so concerned that I
Speaker 3: had to make sure that I came off as younger.
Speaker 4: Than she was.
Speaker 3: And I didn't know that, and then just like so
Speaker 3: worried that, like I wouldn't nobody would buy it. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, Josie's beautiful and blonde, and here's this like
Speaker 3: quirky little redhead, right like could they be sisters? But
Speaker 3: I was so concerned that Sidney come off as young
Speaker 3: enough so that people would believe Sidney was younger than Jane,
Speaker 3: even though Laura is older than Josie. Said that terrified,
Speaker 3: well done.
Speaker 1: It never even occurred to me if you asked me,
Speaker 1: I would even of course you're younger. And when we
Speaker 1: were talking about this podcast where you watched the first episode,
Speaker 1: all of us were in and I remember thinking, you
Speaker 1: guys absolutely look like sisters, and it didn't even occur
Speaker 1: to me they weren't younger because of that energy you brought,
Speaker 1: were not And the jacket to.
Speaker 3: Make sure this character is young, like find all the
Speaker 3: ways to make her young.
Speaker 4: Yeah they did.
Speaker 3: They don't called me out and fire me.
Speaker 1: Well, good thing about Josie too. And I know we're
Speaker 1: not talking about the pilot yet, but I can't help myself.
Speaker 1: She was timeless, like, first of all, insanely beautiful obviously,
Speaker 1: but like her haircut, her clothes, like her choices. I
Speaker 1: remember that she understood fashion more than I did to
Speaker 1: the nth degree. But I'm looking at him like, well
Speaker 1: even then, like she had a handle on it. She
Speaker 1: was a model a maturity, her haircut play still like
Speaker 1: she is timeless.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 3: So one of the things I think we've failed to
Speaker 3: mention is that I ended up marrying one of our
Speaker 3: co stars, right, so you got around I just like
Speaker 3: I feel like that was It's such a funny thing,
Speaker 3: like to go back and this was this moment in
Speaker 3: our lives where we were just doing a television show,
Speaker 3: Like you don't expect to go oh at the end
Speaker 3: of it, the rest of my life is going to be,
Speaker 3: you know, sort of defined by the people that I
Speaker 3: met at that time. But for me it really is
Speaker 3: because like now I have kids, who go, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: my parents met doing this television show. And you know,
Speaker 3: it's just such a different I never would have thought
Speaker 3: it going in of course, and then now I can't
Speaker 3: think of it any other way either. But it's been
Speaker 3: really fun because he was there in the beginning like you,
Speaker 3: so I have the benefit of hearing about beginning in
Speaker 3: those first episodes before my character arrived. I have the
Speaker 3: benefit of hearing about it from his point of view
Speaker 3: as well. And I love so. My husband is Doug Savant,
Speaker 3: and he played Matt Fielding. He was the gay character
Speaker 3: on Melrose, and his perspective on the beginning where you
Speaker 3: were Courtney, but his perspective on the beginning. But also
Speaker 3: he had such a unique experience playing the gay character
Speaker 3: at that time when television shows in the nineties weren't
Speaker 3: really portraying that. You know, what we're doing now is
Speaker 3: far greater and far better than what he was able
Speaker 3: to do then, and so it's just been great to
Speaker 3: see it through his eyes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and two things. First of all, it's so great
Speaker 1: that he played that character because he's such an ethical
Speaker 1: good man, and I remember them trying to ask him
Speaker 1: what his sexuality was and it's like, I'm not even
Speaker 1: addressing that that's not important. We're talking about a character
Speaker 1: and this is important. He really, he was such the
Speaker 1: perfect strong He has such a good character, and it
Speaker 1: would he was such a great person to play that character.
Speaker 4: Well, I can't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also, it's not just that you guys met there,
Speaker 1: it's that you're still married, right Like I dated Andrew,
Speaker 1: you dated Grant? Did you date anyone in our little Melrose.
Speaker 3: Place where she's not telling.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, well we have a lot of I
Speaker 1: just got married from ago, so that.
Speaker 5: So cute.
Speaker 1: But that you guys met, got married and are still married.
Speaker 3: I guess it's exceptional in Hollywood anymore.
Speaker 1: It's exceptional anywhere, right, Like it's exceptional anywhere. That's so sweet.
Speaker 3: Well, and I you know, I can't wait till we
Speaker 3: have guests on and we will have our other cast
Speaker 3: casts and they will get to speak on their experiences too,
Speaker 3: and bring their memories and share, and we'll be able
Speaker 3: to have those conversations. I can't like that will be
Speaker 3: part of our podcasts. We'll get to have all our
Speaker 3: old castmates come back, and you know, like you mentioned
Speaker 3: Doug speaking about his experience you really have to hear
Speaker 3: it from his point of view because he's so eloquent
Speaker 3: about that. So I can't wait.
Speaker 1: So one of the funniest people in the world can't
Speaker 1: wait to spend an hour with him.
Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait to see all our old friends
Speaker 3: when they come back.
Speaker 5: That will be just a blast.
Speaker 2: I started in nineteen eighty three, so whatever year we
Speaker 2: are now, and I look back and I've done another
Speaker 2: series after this for even more years, but this one,
Speaker 2: because it was that time in my life, really felt
Speaker 2: like family on the set, you know, and just the crew,
Speaker 2: and like we said, doing things on the weekends, like
Speaker 2: motorcycles or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I remember going to Target and getting earthquake supplies with
Speaker 2: Heather or self help books or whatever. I just remember
Speaker 2: like a real feeling because of that time and the
Speaker 2: age that I was of it, ing secure. I loved
Speaker 2: going to work every day, driving out to Santa Clarita,
Speaker 2: having that stability.
Speaker 4: You know. So that's what this show felt like.
Speaker 2: Like. I left college to start acting, so this felt
Speaker 2: like my four years of college or something like that.
Speaker 2: It just felt really really good, and we were starting
Speaker 2: to do things, you know, outside of shooting when we
Speaker 2: had time, we worked a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love that you say that, actually,
Speaker 1: because part of it was that we were in Santa Clarita,
Speaker 1: so we were it's almost like going a way to college, right,
Speaker 1: we were far away. I was remembering when you guys
Speaker 1: came on, We're we're still going to Ree Calendars for lunch.
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, we had an hour for lunch. We had
Speaker 1: an hour and we would all go to Marie Calendars
Speaker 1: and sit together in Clora remembered. Do you remember that
Speaker 1: between scenes? And this doesn't happen a lot, we would
Speaker 1: all hang out in the office, like we would hang
Speaker 1: out and talk, and I like you and Doug. You
Speaker 1: may not have gotten together, but one of the times
Speaker 1: you connected was at a party at my house. Like
Speaker 1: we actually hung out outside of work. And you're right,
Speaker 1: we were all that age. I was twenty four when
Speaker 1: I started Moro's Place, so we really were all that
Speaker 1: age having that experience.
Speaker 3: And I think those years are such formative years, were
Speaker 3: like becoming who we're going to be as adults, but
Speaker 3: we're not there. We're children in our early twenties, and
Speaker 3: so we were all having this shared experience in really
Speaker 3: formative years of our lives, and so it's impossible for
Speaker 3: that not to have sort of informed the rest of
Speaker 3: our lives. And then to be able to go back
Speaker 3: and watch these episodes now is such a special privilege.
Speaker 3: Most people don't have film of those years of themselves.
Speaker 3: And so, like you were saying, you look at that
Speaker 3: young girl, and you say, oh, why didn't I appreciate,
Speaker 3: Like why didn't I just give myself a break? And
Speaker 3: like look at my cute little young self. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like for for us to be able to go
Speaker 3: back and look at ourselves at that age and at
Speaker 3: that time of our lives. And it really was, like
Speaker 3: you said, daff like our family at that time television
Speaker 3: and had that way of because you have to go
Speaker 3: back every week and every day. It's not like a
Speaker 3: film where you're like done, and but it was our
Speaker 3: family and it was definitely unforgettable time in all of
Speaker 3: our lives. And the fact that we all still admire
Speaker 3: and adore each other and I we're so lucky to
Speaker 3: get this opportunity to come back together and just like
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 1: And play together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go back down memory land together. Yeah, how funny.
Speaker 1: The other thing that was different about it is that
Speaker 1: because it wasn't as huge success when it started. We're
Speaker 1: all kind of I remember and this may be a
Speaker 1: before you guys were on it, but we went to
Speaker 1: some maybe Magic Mountain, because we shot right next to
Speaker 1: Magic Mountain for like a fan thing, and it was
Speaker 1: nobody like it was just the guest. There were people
Speaker 1: like who are you? What show were you? Like, nobody knew.
Speaker 1: We were like Caesar one for someone nobody knew. Wo
Speaker 1: we were so uncomfortable and we got to have that
Speaker 1: ride together too, right. We all went from relative unknowns.
Speaker 1: You had a career before and granted in the soap opera,
Speaker 1: but for the moment part where will it dove unknowns
Speaker 1: and we had that journey together like as it took off,
Speaker 1: we got to do that together too. So we went
Speaker 1: through a lot together. We all went from unknowns to
Speaker 1: recognizable actors in the span of a year or two.
Speaker 2: And and our off screen lives were intertwined clearly by
Speaker 2: you two, who dated all the good looking stars on.
Speaker 1: I dated Andrew pretty early on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it.
Speaker 3: Was a weird thing to sort of juggle that, you know,
Speaker 3: becoming not just like a private person but like all
Speaker 3: of a sudden there was a public sort of entitlement
Speaker 3: to your life. You know, that was just a weird
Speaker 3: thing to juggle. I think it is for any in
Speaker 3: any decade. It's a weird thing to come to terms with,
Speaker 3: like when you go from being unknown to all of
Speaker 3: a sudden people. I remember like the first time on
Speaker 3: a red carpet when photographers were like calling my name
Speaker 3: to get me to turn my head and look at
Speaker 3: their camera. And I was like, wow, do they know
Speaker 3: my name?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: What that is so weird? How do they know my name?
Speaker 3: That was bizarre, Like you don't know me? Why are
Speaker 3: you calling me by my name? I mean I understood
Speaker 3: if they maybe knew me as a character, but like
Speaker 3: my name, it just struck me as like ye, So
Speaker 3: it was like it was really disconcerting, and it's like
Speaker 3: I can't remember who was with me. Good because you're
Speaker 3: on a television.
Speaker 4: Like a carpet.
Speaker 3: But to me, it was like it was so confusing
Speaker 3: and disconcerting and it took a while to get used to,
Speaker 3: like it wasn't you know, it's a weird thing. And
Speaker 3: then yeah, but that's that's what we all experienced together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was so different then like I think
Speaker 1: now the volume has been turned up so much. Like
Speaker 1: I remember, like Andrew and I could we couldn't live
Speaker 1: a normal life like we both lived in like Hollywood.
Speaker 1: We could go to the store, we could lunch, we go,
Speaker 1: we could go to movies like it was pretty normal.
Speaker 1: And we were on a red carpet. They would try
Speaker 1: to I remember being offended that they were trying to
Speaker 1: take our picture together on the red carpet, which is
Speaker 1: we're at a red carpet event. But we had a
Speaker 1: sense of privacy that I don't think recognizable people do today.
Speaker 1: I think it would have been I'm really happy to
Speaker 1: not be famous like that today because I think it's
Speaker 1: so much more intense, so much more to see.
Speaker 3: Considering Yeah, exactly, I'm so glad that when we did it,
Speaker 3: we did it in the nineties.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have.
Speaker 3: So many stories and so much to talk about, and
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to do this every week with you.
Speaker 3: We get to have our old cast members come back.
Speaker 3: I imagine that over time we might take fans questions
Speaker 3: and be able to respond to that, which I think
Speaker 3: is really cool because obviously the fans it's what it's
Speaker 3: you know what it's all about and why we're back
Speaker 3: here again.
Speaker 2: So I would love to hear what the fans say,
Speaker 2: what the questions they have, because I think the fun
Speaker 2: is revisiting everybody's youth, you know, like everyone who's listening.
Speaker 2: That's why I would want to listen to this, you know,
Speaker 2: to go back and watch it. But then also through
Speaker 2: that I get to relive my youth. So I'm I'd
Speaker 2: love to hear the fans.
Speaker 3: And some people might be finding it and watching it
Speaker 3: for the first time, which I think is sort of
Speaker 3: a fun perspective too, that the old fans can come
Speaker 3: to it and they might have memories of where they
Speaker 3: were when and with whom and while they watched. But
Speaker 3: other people, We welcome everybody to come and watch the
Speaker 3: show for the.
Speaker 4: First time, and you can watch it now stream it yep. Stream.
Speaker 1: We actually had a friend, does it not apropos of anything?
Speaker 1: Who said we were looking for a new show to watch.
Speaker 1: We decided we're going to watch Molo's Place. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: your timing is impeccable.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that will.
Speaker 3: Be watching it with you, yes, and we can meet
Speaker 3: around the water cooler to talk about it the next day.
Speaker 1: Water can't be so excited to
Speaker 3: Still the place,