1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith. 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: And Daphne's Ania and iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we'll find me here. It's so exciting. 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 4: Let's see the pearls. Guys. We have like thirty years 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 4: of memories. 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Hey, do we do an official intro? 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: It's it's a podcast called Still the Place, Still. 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: The Place, Melo's Place for rewatch podcasts. 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Melro's Place was the show that where we 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 3: all met. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: In the early By the way, I'm Courtney thorn Smith. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm Laura Layton and I'm Daphne's Anigay. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: I like, I'm interviewing you. You're such a cute couple. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: Thank you. 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: We're very happy to get us from my. 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 4: Therapist a therapist, you too, on the couch. 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: Actually, after Melroe's Place, I went into therapy. 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: If this was couple's therapy, this would not be good. Yeah, 19 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: you're happy. 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Was ready? 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: We want to get you close too, couldn't possibly. 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: It's where our friendship began and where we all met. 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 3: And it's thirty two years later. 24 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: Almost exactly thirty two years because I did the math 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: and we started shooting May eleventh of nineteen ninety two, 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: so it's almost exactly thirty two years. And the weird 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: thing is we all look exactly the same, Isn't that weirdess? 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: Because it's a podcast. 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: The weirdess. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: She just thank God for filters. 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Can we have filters? I'd like a few filters in life. 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: So so excited to be doing this with you guys, 33 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: So excited to just get the time to hang out 34 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: with you guys and talk about the show. I've been 35 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: thinking about all my Melrose memories and so many things 36 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: have been coming to my mind. Do you remember this 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: came to me today, made me laugh out loud. Do 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: you remember how Jack Wagner, Now remember Heather Locklear was 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: the biggest star in the world at the time. How 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: Jack Wagner always remembered he couldn't remember her name. Pretend 41 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: he couldn't remember his name, and you would call her Helen. 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: Where's Helen? Is Helen here? 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: Do you remember that we laugh out loud this morning 44 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: that that sounds exactly like Jack. Yeah, totally, but he 45 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: but Thomas actually did that to me on purpose, really yeah, 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 3: like not kidding. I mean, I thought it was unpurposed, 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: like he could never remember my actual name, so you 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: just called me by my character names, and I'm finding 49 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: there were a lot of us when I yeah, like 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: what I think when I'm thinking about Melrose and like 51 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: going back into my memory of it and stuff, I 52 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: don't think of you guys as your character names. I 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: think of your names. I'm like, oh, well, remember when 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: Courtney had that scene? You know, it's like Courtney had 55 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 3: that scene instead of like remember when Alison did this. 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: Like I can't quite remember the character's names and connect the. 57 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: People because so much time's gone by. 58 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: But back in the day when you know, I know, 59 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: the crew even had like our names, I think, but 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: it was like the names and the character like our 61 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 2: real name because because it was a. 62 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: Lot Yeah, so wait, we haven't even said that. So 63 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: like Daphne, you played. 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Joe, Joe, Daphney, I played Joe, right, Joebeth Reynolds, I. 65 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Remember you coming on. I remember you coming on because 66 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: you were very cool, and you like came from the 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: movies and you were very cool, and edge were all 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: kind of nervous, and it's like you came in and 69 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: you were really cool, and we're all kind of nervous 70 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: that you were there. 71 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: Wait, and you're Courtney and you played. 72 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm Courtney, I played Alison Craker, I'm o rost Place. 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 3: And I'm Laura Layton and I played Sydney, Andrews, Mancini 74 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 3: and a bunch of other last names. And now did 75 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: you Andrews. 76 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: But Laura, when you came on, you didn't start as 77 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: a regular, right, that was expanded. You come in as 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm already remembering. Josie's character name, Josie was Jane. 79 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, see, it was hard guys, and I'm gonna refer 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: it was Jose half the time instead of Jane. I'm 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: going to refer to her as Jane. Josie's gonna see. 82 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: I think like the nostalgia factor of it being all 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: the way back in the nineties, it just seems like 84 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: that was such a different time and place, Like my 85 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: kids even will say weird stuff like I wish I 86 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: lived in the nineties. I'm like, why, what is it 87 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: about the nineties that is appealing to you? 88 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Like you remember because we grew up in the eighties 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: thinking about the sixties and how long ago that was. 90 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: The nineties are longer for them ago ago. Yeah, I 91 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: know there's a way to say that better, but I 92 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: don't know where it is, yeah, right, like that was 93 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: only twenty years This is thirty years ago. 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, but for us, for me anyway, it doesn't feel 95 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: that far at all. And yet watching the show or 96 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: remembering specifically things about the nineties. 97 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we look so different. 98 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: Everything was colorful, and the hair was high and coming 99 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: out of the eighties, which was all you know, day 100 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: glow and massive amounts of hairspray. Right, But how I 101 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: feel is like it was a couple of literally just 102 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: you know, maybe ten years ago. 103 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a decade now. 104 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Because fashion has changed, it doesn't look that weird. Like 105 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: I checked out in episodes several years ago, it looked insane. 106 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: And then getting ready for this, I've looked at some 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: episodes the fashion holds up, like my first outfit, which 108 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember at all in real time, but I 109 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: was looking at I thought, oh, I would wear that today. 110 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I had a fitted jacket much like the one I 111 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: have on now, but it was bright red and a 112 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: black dress. 113 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: Because circled back the boxy jacket. 114 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: Many years I thought I would die if my son 115 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: saw this, right, I have a sixteen year old son. 116 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: He came in last night. I was watching an episode, 117 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: and I had on, of course a sheet mask, as 118 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: I do, because you guys know I'm obsessed with skincare. 119 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: They had on a sheet mask. You woe, doesn't even 120 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: blink anymore? He comes in? How often am I in 121 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: a I saw in a blanket with my led mask on? 122 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: So last night was getch a sheet mask, didn't even blink. 123 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: Shat down and watched for a second. 124 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: I thought, it. 125 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: Doesn't look that weird, except that my hair was big 126 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and I looked kind of different. But the clothes were 127 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: right on point. It was almost the same stuff. 128 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: You mean, it's coming back around. 129 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: It has come back around. 130 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: It insane for twenty years. 131 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and now it's back. 132 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 133 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: I would wear I probably was wearing exactly what I 134 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: was wearing on the. 135 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: Show, maybe a little different. Those are some pretty high 136 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: shoulder pads. 137 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: But apparently shoulder pads are coming back. Remember the shoulder 138 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: pads that we put in our clothes that were what 139 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: was that fabric and then they'd fall down and all 140 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden you'd have an extra breast because your shoulder, 141 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: like if it was falling. 142 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: Out pads or like places in your shoulders where they 143 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: would fit in and you know, like Denise, our wardrobe 144 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: God would like come and. 145 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 4: You know, just fit it in. 146 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: So you fit to this square jacket as opposed to 147 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: like getting something that fit you, you know that was 148 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: like shape to you. And I mean I relied so 149 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: much on those shoulder pads. I thought, you know, now 150 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: I feel together and like you feel too slopey without 151 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: a shoulder pad. 152 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: Do you know, do you guys have any wardrobe items 153 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: or anything that you took from the show, anything that 154 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: you can. 155 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I did take from there. There was 156 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: like a maroon and cream skirt that fit me like 157 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: a and I thought I'll wear this forever, but then 158 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 1: it was maroon and cream. 159 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 3: So never found the occasion for maroon and cream. 160 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: It didn't come back, but I did for a long time. 161 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I still have my melrose Place hat. And I remember 162 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: when when melrose Place was really hot, and Andrew Shoe 163 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and I were dating, so it felt like there was 164 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a lot of attention on us. And I went to 165 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: see member Missy and John. Yeah, so, and we went 166 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: to see them for dinner and we were going we 167 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: were going out, The four of us were going out 168 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: to Universal Studios. When Universal Studios opened and we were 169 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: really trying to hide. 170 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: That brave because I can't imagine that was. 171 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: It was brave, but you know, you can put on 172 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: a baseball hat. It wasn't like now with social media 173 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you could kind of put it on a baseball hat 174 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: and go out under the radar. And we showed up 175 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: at their door and they both had on Melro's Place 176 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: baseball hats. 177 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean so much for subtle they didn't wear it. 178 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 4: Doesn't that defeat the purpose. 179 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: But remember that hat, it was black. I still have that. 180 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: I should have wearn that today and it had the 181 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Melrose Place hot. I still had that. I wear it 182 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: all the time, so I don't have to explain who 183 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: I I don't Clarious. 184 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 3: Do you feel like it was that you were able 185 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: to go out under the radar? Like when do you 186 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: think that changed in like over the course of the show, 187 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: Like when did that because I remember it being sort 188 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: of a shocking thing to be, oh my gosh, we 189 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: can't go anywhere without being recognized from the show. 190 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: I remember the game when I really well, one of 191 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: the times it really dawned on me was when you 192 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: were with Grant. 193 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: So whatever season that was, I was, we were writing 194 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: Harley's to Latline. 195 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: At the time, I had my own little I wrote 196 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: a couple of times on the back of Grant's Harley, 197 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: and then I was like, uh, I want my own, 198 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: So I went and got my own. 199 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: I took the lessons and everything you were on the 200 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: back of Grants. But I'm not that I aways ever 201 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: dated Grant. 202 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: But anyway, anyway, we go to Laughlin and there was 203 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: just all of these motorcycle writers and you know, it was. 204 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 4: Laughlin, Nevada. 205 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 2: So we crossed the state line and there were these 206 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: escalators and it was just a mob. And I just 207 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: remember you and Grant and like everyone these Harley Davidson 208 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: like to mix it there and they're like, oh my god, wait, 209 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: they're following it, you know, And I just thought, wow, 210 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: this is like one of those scenes where there's a 211 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: mass and the escalator and just this massive people recognizing you. 212 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: I thought, that's it. 213 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: We're stuck on the three of you rode motorcycles to Laughlin, Nevada. Oh, 214 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to focus on I wasn't invited. Whatever, 215 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: we'll get over it. We'll talk about that. 216 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: And a whole motorcycle gang on the show. 217 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: Really really with us, fascinated like our teamster and Greg. 218 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 4: I think Lacava came. Who else? Oh, there were a 219 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 4: couple others from the crew. 220 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: That is so cool. You know what else encouraged me 221 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: last night was you dated Grant in real life, but 222 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: all three of us dated him on the show, So 223 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: we have all kissed Grant show. 224 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: Thank you? Everybody? 225 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: Did everybody dated everybody on the show? 226 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, let's what, let's wait, we're gonna have. 227 00:09:58,520 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 3: That. 228 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 4: I watched the pilot. 229 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: I didn't remember any of it, Like I vaguely remembered 230 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: my audition scene, but I was like. 231 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: That, what what? 232 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: What? 233 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: It's so crazy how much I've forgotten? Remember when we 234 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: did We did a reunion show in New York on 235 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: the twenty fifth anniversary, and they were showing us scenes 236 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: from Melwer's Place, you remember it, and Doug and I upped. 237 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: At some point we were all. 238 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 4: Wait, what happened? 239 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: How do I remember a scene? Yeah, Doug and I 240 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: were kidnapped. And the other thing that made me laugh 241 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: is so as you know, Doug was one of the 242 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: first gay characters on on Timetime Network TV, and he 243 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: felt like they didn't use him enough. Because they didn't 244 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: really know what to do with a gay character. They 245 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: weren't really ready. 246 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: Ironic Star created and was our showrunner. 247 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, different time though, so it's really well he was 248 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: allowed to write. 249 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 4: Yes, he was just talk about exactly. 250 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: You can really see what a different time it is, right, 251 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: how far we've come in that area. But he came 252 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: and he had a sign. He made himself a sign 253 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: and it said, Hi, I'm Matt. I played Doug because 254 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: he hadn't been there it so long. 255 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: I don't remember that, but it doesn't surprise maybe left 256 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: so hard. Yeah, but like how the perspective that our 257 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: show at the time was it just like did you 258 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: anticipate it becoming this giant hit? I mean it was 259 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: like a juggernaut. 260 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Well it wasn't a hit at first. Let me tell you, 261 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: ladies who weren't there in the very beginning, sit down, 262 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: sit on many Let's tell you a story. So in 263 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: the beginning, it was a spin off of nine O 264 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: two and note they expected great things. We were sold 265 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: for thirteen. I remember doing the opening credits scene on 266 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Melrose and Grant was sort of recognizable because he'd already 267 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: been on nine O two and O. But nice kids 268 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: and a soap opera and just insanely handsome obviously, right, 269 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: like watching those chos, like how do I even talk 270 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: to Grant? Insanely handsome? And we were we were we 271 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: There were all these expectations. It was so much press 272 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: and then nothing happened. It was like eight nice kids 273 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: trying to make it. And then Heather came on as 274 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: a bitch, right, that was the that was the poster, 275 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: Monday's our bitch, and all of a sudden we had 276 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: someone to play against. And then Thomas's character, Michael Mancini, 277 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: turned bad. Was that when you came on? Yes, that's 278 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: when you came on. Yeah, so we had you and 279 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: we had Michael, and we had Heather, and that's when 280 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: it we were I imagine, I don't know the inner workings. 281 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: I think we came very close to getting canceled, and 282 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: then all of this new energy came in and we 283 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: weren't just nice kids trying to make it. There was 284 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: all this conflict and drama and then, as you guys know, the. 285 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: Drama just took off. 286 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just gonna say, I want to give 287 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: you some perspective because you were saying nobody watched it 288 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 3: right right the premiere, I'm going to give you it 289 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: statistic which I have to be accurate. 290 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: I am so impressed. 291 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: I believe this to be accurate. The Melrose Place premiere 292 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: episode had sixteen million viewers. 293 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: But at the time, yes, what were the top shows getting? 294 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Like now, that was an insane so. 295 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: Right, So I guess I'm gonna have to get back 296 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: to you with that. I'm going to have to get. 297 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: Myself or get your people on that. 298 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: By comparison, I will let's compare to for example, today 299 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 3: the series finale of Breaking Bad, right, I mean giant 300 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: current cultural phenomenon, cultural phenomenon. Series finale of Breaking Bad 301 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: was ten point three million. Melrose premiered sixteen million, and 302 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: when it was in the height, there was nineteen million 303 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: viewers for like, for say the season two finale of 304 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: Melrose So nineteen million. 305 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: That's unheard of today we're watching it. 306 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: But also the way they had to watch it was 307 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: at the same time, like we had to. They had 308 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: to make an appointment. Go oh, I have to watch 309 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: on Wednesday night or I will miss it. So sixteen 310 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: million people watch that premiere on the same night, or 311 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 3: we Divo didn't come INUNTI late could record not hard. 312 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: You could record it. 313 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 4: Like a VHS. 314 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 3: Everybody had a VHS and if they're like if they 315 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: weren't going to be stones riding the bike, and you'd 316 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: have the recording and if you were going to miss 317 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: it on that Wednesday night, you may have to make sure, 318 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 3: oh I forgot to set my VCR. Remember that, and 319 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: then they miss it, and then they wouldn't get that 320 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: moment of being able to talk about it the next 321 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: day around the water cooler. 322 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: Like that was a thing, I think. 323 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: But to your point, it premiered like that because people 324 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: had been watching nine O two and zero right, and 325 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: it was like the same vibe is really cool la 326 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: vibe but older people in their twenties now. But it 327 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: leads into that because Darren told me so, I live 328 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: with Darren Starr, the creator of this show, in college, 329 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, it's a show when he 330 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: called me about coming out to this one. 331 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: It's a show. 332 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: About you know, kids after college and they're trying to 333 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: make it on their own. And sure enough, you see 334 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: in the pilot and through the first however many shows, 335 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: that's what it was like, like, how do you pay 336 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: the rent? 337 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 4: And can I keep my job? And da da da, 338 00:14:58,880 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: these things. 339 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: That that earrow wasn't covered, that you had thirty something 340 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: and you had nine or two to zero and you 341 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: didn't but you didn't have this the twenties, you know, 342 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: you didn't have that on TV and how and because 343 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: that's what he remembers experiencing and that's what so I 344 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: think he really want to do like a thirty something 345 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: but in the twenties and then and then so it 346 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: started big, but that didn't last at first. So I 347 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: came in halfway through the first seasons. I think I 348 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: has been told episode fifteen, there's gonna be a lot 349 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: of you talk and Courtney for the first fifteen. 350 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: A lot of questions recording til we get that court yeah, 351 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: what happened behind the scenes. 352 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Then oh, you'll have opinions. I know, both of you. 353 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: And the thing that these filmmakers did is that you 354 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: go with where the juice is and when they made 355 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: Michael a villain because he was kind of an asshole anyway, 356 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: and then he just went and then boom it. Then 357 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: it started to pick up and then they brought in 358 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: Heather and I came in there somewhere around there but 359 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't a bad girl. 360 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: I was and then they brought it and have Ben 361 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: just went with it and made her the ultimate bitch. 362 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: And then you guys had all that, you know, and 363 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: then you went crazy and all that. 364 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 4: But what I love is, oh, I thought they were hoping. 365 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: They were hoping it was going to be a hit 366 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: for one reason, and that didn't fly, and they just 367 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: pivoted and it became bigger than they imagined. 368 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I think. 369 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: So I just think that's a cool story because it's real, 370 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: and I think that that's really valuable to know in life. 371 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: Anyway. 372 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: I love that we get to watch it again and 373 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: in real time, sort of as it was meant to be, 374 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: you know, as it was is this one went first, 375 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: and here's how it was in the beginning and the 376 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: evolution of it. We get to rewatch that and see 377 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: that evolution again and sort of compare it to how 378 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: we remember it versus how it's going to feel watching 379 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: it the second time, and you're. 380 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Going to be surprised how little you remember. Like I remember, 381 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: I remember, oh, I remember shooting the pilot, I remember 382 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: how we Deutsche directed it, I remember the people, but 383 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: watching the scenes, I don't remember any of them. It 384 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: was watching it and knew it was fascinating. And as 385 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: you were saying about people having to watch it on 386 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: that day, like what people? I still people talking about 387 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: Melo's Place more than anything I've ever done. I've worked 388 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: a longer. I did a lot of things after Melo's 389 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: Place because it was a time in their lives. That's 390 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: why I love our title still the Place. Because I 391 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: was at my son's friend's house and his dad was 392 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: telling me. His dad's this big heart, the big back surgeon, 393 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: and he was telling me how in college he and 394 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: his friends watched Meloe's Place and he wrote an article 395 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: for their paper, like an update on Melroe's Place, like 396 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: this guy he was a black surgeon. He was like blogging, 397 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: but actually on paper. It's a time. People remember it 398 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: as they were in college, they got together with their friends. 399 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: How many times in a week do people stop you 400 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: and say, I lived on Meloe's Place. I lived in 401 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: an apartment building with a pool. 402 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: Yep, right, well it used to be like that, I 403 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 4: think people. 404 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: I think to your point, it was it felt like 405 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: a time and we need it now, you know, like 406 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: just ape and a time that you remember that time 407 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: that life was I don't know, simpler, or you connected 408 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: more in real life, or you went next door for 409 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: advice to your neighbors if you lived in that apartment. 410 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: And I just feel like people you know, talked about 411 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: that experience. 412 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: Of being an apartment building a lot and then talking 413 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: about the show at the water cooler, you know. 414 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Well, and getting together to watch it. People got together 415 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: watch it every Yeah, Like now we're all in our 416 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: own little world on our own devices watching shows Now. 417 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: I watch things sometimes concurrently with friends and we're texting 418 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: while we're watching it. That's why Game of Thrones was 419 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: exciting because people wanted to watch that in real time. Yeah, 420 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: it's so rare. But Melrose was that and if you 421 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: didn't watch it the next day and people were talking 422 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: about it, it was a bonding experience. You don't get 423 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: that as often. 424 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 3: Now, And I think that's what makes it different from 425 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: like what watching shows are now, is like that experience 426 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: of I remember where I was when I watched it 427 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: and who I watched it with. 428 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that day I binged six or eight yep, 429 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: like that episode and the next day, Yeah. 430 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: Well you could all be like do you can you 431 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 4: believe that this happened. Can you believe that? And what 432 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 4: was she wearing anyway? The belt around the vest. I'm 433 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 4: going to look into that, you know what I mean? 434 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: The water cooler conversation, that was the real thing. People 435 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 3: actually had a time that watched it, and the next 436 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: table was a big conversation about it. And it's just 437 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: different now with being able to stream and watch whatever 438 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: you want whenever you want, you don't have that water 439 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: cooler moment. And so I feel like our podcast is 440 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 3: like we're doing it again, where our conversation after watching 441 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: it is our water cooler conversation is like we just 442 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: watched episode one and we get to have the water 443 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: cooler conversation, but it. 444 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: All over again that way that's horrible. 445 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: And we get to do it one episode at a time. 446 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 3: I can't I can't wait to see it unfold. And 447 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna like I'm not going to binge ahead. 448 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it in time, like when we're 449 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: doing our episodes of the podcast. I mean, just watch 450 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 3: that episode. I just want to have that experience. 451 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: I don't think I could watch more than one. It's 452 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of overwhelming, right, Like it was such a time 453 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: and place in my life, and like I said, I 454 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: don't remember for any of it, so I'm watching it anew. 455 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: But I think one at a time is perfect, and 456 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I love that way of thinking about it, of like 457 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: as fans watching the show again because there's enough distance. 458 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: Although I will say, like I want to say, there's 459 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: enough distance that I can watch myself. It's still hard, 460 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: but I was watching. When I did watch the pilots 461 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it, I was like, oh my god, 462 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: my legs. I would kill for those legs today. And 463 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I thought I was so hard on myself about my 464 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: body right. 465 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: Exactly, like we. 466 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Never know. It is so heartbreaking now to look back 467 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: at that young woman. I don't do that to myself anymore. 468 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm not mean to myself about my body, my more, 469 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: thank you God. But I was looking at myself, going, 470 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: I wish i'd known how adorable I was, right, like 471 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: you never know at that time. So I think this 472 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: will be healing too, to like connect to that younger 473 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: version of ourselves. Yeah, and just be really sweet and 474 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: generous to those young women we. 475 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: Were and for all the young women out there. 476 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 4: There's so much to talk about. 477 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: Where I'm talking about the capturing the essence of an 478 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: entire decade. And then but I wasn't there from the 479 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: very beginning. You said, you remember when I came on. 480 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: I remember coming on. You know, this is eight years 481 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: after doing movies, and things were movies lasted longer, and 482 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: also like you're with a certain group of people and 483 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 2: then it's over. And then for me, like right before 484 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: I came on, there wasn't a lot going on, and 485 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: I was like. 486 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 4: What do I do in between? 487 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: I was really frustrated. 488 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: I just love to work and act. 489 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: And I remember walking with my manager at the time, 490 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: Brian Metavoy, were walking somewhere in Westwood and I'm like, 491 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: I just want to act. 492 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: What's going on? 493 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: And I had done some India where I played a 494 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: This is after some studio movies that I did. 495 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: I was playing a serial killer. 496 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: And then that when I was like, please help me 497 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: with like, you know something I want to play and 498 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: he's like, daf don't you worry. In this business things 499 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: turn on a dime. And that week I got a 500 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: call from Darren Star, who I said we were friends, 501 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, dafh, I know you don't do TV, 502 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: but you know I'm doing this show. It's called Melro's 503 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: Place and da da da, he described it, and I 504 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: just thought it was a big decision to go do 505 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: TV after film because we're very separate then. 506 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was so separate then. 507 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: But my gut was like, you get to act every day, 508 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: you know, so for as long as this last, you 509 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: just get to act, and you know you're going to 510 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: meet all these people. 511 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 4: And so when I came in, I. 512 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: Was so excited, also nervous because you guys had been 513 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: doing it for like fifteen episodes already and you had. 514 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 4: It down, but I wasn't there from the beginning. So 515 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: that's my coming into it. 516 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: You know. 517 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: So did you audition at all? 518 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 4: No? 519 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 3: I didn't, Lucky. 520 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: Those are the actually sorry, I'm sorry only for Aaron Spolling. 521 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 4: I think I did because I remember being in Aaron's 522 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: office and yeah, Darren was there with me, and he 523 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: wrote a scene for Joe. 524 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: He's like, I'm introducing this new character, so she's from 525 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: New York blah blah blah, and he had written something 526 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: for me. So I just went in and did it 527 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: and and I had a great time with with Aaron 528 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: Spelling and. 529 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: Duke was in there, Duke Vincent was in there, and 530 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: we were in Aaron's spelling. Oh yeah, so anyway it was. 531 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 2: And then uh yeah, then I was going to start 532 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: right away. I also anyway, I'm just saying this because 533 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: I wanted to like give a lead into where it 534 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: because we all came from different places, different experiences. 535 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 4: You were there from the beginning, you had done. 536 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: I want to hear all about that, Like what that Alura. 537 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 4: You were kind of just starting. 538 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: I'm just well, I had been I had been auditioning. 539 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: I was doing like TV and movies, and at that time, 540 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: like I said, it was really separate, not like now 541 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: where movie stars are doing limited TV and TV. It's 542 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: all sort of one big pile now, right, it's all 543 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: It's very different to the time. It was very separate, 544 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: and I was getting very close to movies down to 545 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: the final two, down to the final three, and not 546 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: getting it. And it was always like there was a 547 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: bigger name. There was a bigger name. And I had 548 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: been auditioning at with Aaron and Aaron Spelling for this 549 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: doctor show. It was called Partners, and it was one 550 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: of those where you go back every day every day 551 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: and you're paired up, and you're paired up one of 552 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: those grinds right every day, every and I didn't get it, 553 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm out, I'm done. And at 554 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: the end of the final audition, Aaron said, we're gonna 555 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: work with you kid, like old Hollywood, and I sort 556 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: of rolled my eyes like yeah, whatever. And I woke 557 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: up the next day and I opened my front door 558 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: and there was a stack of scripts from Airli like 559 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: something up from Spelling. There was a stack of scripts. 560 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: Remember when they delivered actual scripts. 561 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: They delivered actual scripts. You'd go open in the morning 562 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: every pages and and my agent and I were talking 563 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: about it was like, well, there's this thing. It's a 564 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: spinoff of nine er two and one. And he said, look, 565 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: it will probably get your name out there, and then 566 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: you'll have more opportunity, Like even if it only goes 567 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: like thirteen episodes, it'll get your name out there, and 568 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: then you'll have a name and it'll give you more 569 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: power to get other things. And I went in and 570 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: it was as opposed to the Partner Show, which had 571 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: been a grind and a grind. It was one of 572 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: those things where it's just you walk through the open door, 573 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: right like this podcast has felt like that, Like it's 574 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: just we had the idea and then it was just 575 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: walked through the open doors. It was really easy when 576 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: things are meant to be, and that was one of 577 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: those things. I just went from audition to audition to audition. 578 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: You're in Did you have like chemistry reads or any 579 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: of that stuff, like when you were testing and did 580 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: you test? 581 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: I tested? Actually before Andrew got cast, there was a 582 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: really wonderful Canadian actor named Stephen Fanning and we tested 583 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: together and he was amazing. And then as happens, you know, 584 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: we've all we'll talk about this when we get to 585 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: the pilot, but you know, I don't know anyone who 586 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: hasn't get fired. Have you been fired? Yes, I've been fired. 587 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: Have you been fired? 588 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 4: Wow? 589 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: Wow, we have to talk to you about something. This 590 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: was uncomfortable to do in high school. 591 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 3: I worked. 592 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: I believe I was. 593 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Fired, but it just for whatever reason, they didn't think 594 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it worked on the day. And then I'll tell that 595 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Andrew audition story when we do the pilot. It's a 596 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: crazy story. And it was just sort of like, Okay, 597 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: this is where I'm supposed to be, like not banging 598 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: on George closed, George closed, George Closure. Then all of 599 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: a sudden, you make a turn and there it was. 600 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: And it was so weird because I don't think there 601 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: are people like Aaron Spelling anymore. He had that beautiful, 602 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: huge office and smoked cigars and literally, we're gonna work together. 603 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah right, And he remember he'd hug you and 604 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: he was so thin because he picked all those cigars, remember, 605 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: and then and he meant it like I thought, oh 606 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: my god, he meant it that stuff. I don't think 607 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: that happens anymore. So that was my story. Laura Old. 608 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: Oh, Well, I I had not worked as an actress, 609 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: but Melrose was my first job. So I was in 610 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety two. Well, I had done like a couple 611 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: of commercials and stuff like that, but literally this was 612 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: my first job. And so and the audition came to me. 613 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: It was a two episode guest star, which I thought, well, 614 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: that's a lot, Like it's not just a it's not 615 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 3: just a HW may I help you, like I'm your 616 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: server role and that's I just get the one line. 617 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: I got two whole episodes where there was a storyline 618 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: and a whole character, and I had to like figure 619 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 3: out how to flash that character out. And I really, 620 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: you know, like, oh my god, this is huge to 621 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: get two episodes as my first job was huge and 622 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 3: not just a hi, how are you so? Yeah. So 623 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: my audition process was a series of auditions just to 624 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: like I had to start. And at the time, our 625 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 3: casting director said, you know, you might be right for 626 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: this guest star playing the younger sister of Josie Bizzett 627 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 3: on this new show called Melrose Place. You might be 628 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: right for the younger sister, but you have to pre 629 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: read because I can't bring you to producers if you can't, 630 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, like pull it off or whatever. I'm like, sure, 631 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 3: I'll do that, okay, you know, so we I pre 632 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: prepared my material and I auditioned for him, and he's like, 633 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: all right, yeah you could, you could maybe pull this off. 634 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: I'll bring you to the next sort of level, the 635 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: next And so you go from that to reading in 636 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: front of the producers and then they might ask you 637 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: back again for another read with producers. And so I 638 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: sort of went through the process that way and they 639 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: kept going okay, yeah, yeah, maybe you know okay, And 640 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 3: I was up against when it came down to deciding 641 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: if I was going to get the role. It was 642 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 3: me and another actress who had far more experience, because 643 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: everybody had farmed time. And so they brought us, the 644 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 3: two of us to Aaron Spelling's giant office suites on 645 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: Welsh Boulevard to have him make the decision. And so 646 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: we did. We were in that same giant suite of 647 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: offices and we both read and and I sort of 648 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 3: found out right after that I had right after that 649 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: I had won the role. And one of my things 650 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: was that I had worn a leather jacket as the 651 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: character is like, yeah, this is you know, this is 652 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: how I think she would be and whatever. And I 653 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: had worn this leather jacket and mister Spelling had said, 654 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: I like the jacket, keep the jacket. 655 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 5: Sidney wears the jacket. 656 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: So I ended up wearing my leather jacket, I believe 657 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: in my first appearance on the show. And yeah, and 658 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm like, my my big insecurity at the time, besides 659 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: not knowing what the heck I was doing as an 660 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: actress at all, was I looked up Josie and I 661 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, she's beautiful and she's younger 662 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: than I am, and I'm supposed to be her younger sister. 663 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 5: Nobody's gonna buy it. 664 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 3: Nobody's gonna believe me. Nobody's gonna believe that we're related 665 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 3: because she's so pretty, and I can't. Nobody's gonna believe 666 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: that we're sister. Like, I was so concerned that I 667 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: had to make sure that I came off as younger. 668 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: Than she was. 669 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 3: And I didn't know that, and then just like so 670 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: worried that, like I wouldn't nobody would buy it. Well, 671 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 3: you know, Josie's beautiful and blonde, and here's this like 672 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: quirky little redhead, right like could they be sisters? But 673 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: I was so concerned that Sidney come off as young 674 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: enough so that people would believe Sidney was younger than Jane, 675 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: even though Laura is older than Josie. Said that terrified, 676 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: well done. 677 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: It never even occurred to me if you asked me, 678 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: I would even of course you're younger. And when we 679 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: were talking about this podcast where you watched the first episode, 680 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: all of us were in and I remember thinking, you 681 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: guys absolutely look like sisters, and it didn't even occur 682 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: to me they weren't younger because of that energy you brought, 683 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: were not And the jacket to. 684 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: Make sure this character is young, like find all the 685 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: ways to make her young. 686 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: Yeah they did. 687 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: They don't called me out and fire me. 688 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: Well, good thing about Josie too. And I know we're 689 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: not talking about the pilot yet, but I can't help myself. 690 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: She was timeless, like, first of all, insanely beautiful obviously, 691 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: but like her haircut, her clothes, like her choices. I 692 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: remember that she understood fashion more than I did to 693 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: the nth degree. But I'm looking at him like, well 694 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: even then, like she had a handle on it. She 695 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: was a model a maturity, her haircut play still like 696 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: she is timeless. 697 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 4: I know. 698 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: So one of the things I think we've failed to 699 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: mention is that I ended up marrying one of our 700 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: co stars, right, so you got around I just like 701 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: I feel like that was It's such a funny thing, 702 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: like to go back and this was this moment in 703 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: our lives where we were just doing a television show, 704 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 3: Like you don't expect to go oh at the end 705 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: of it, the rest of my life is going to be, 706 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: you know, sort of defined by the people that I 707 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: met at that time. But for me it really is 708 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: because like now I have kids, who go, Oh my gosh, 709 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: my parents met doing this television show. And you know, 710 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: it's just such a different I never would have thought 711 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: it going in of course, and then now I can't 712 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 3: think of it any other way either. But it's been 713 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: really fun because he was there in the beginning like you, 714 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: so I have the benefit of hearing about beginning in 715 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 3: those first episodes before my character arrived. I have the 716 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: benefit of hearing about it from his point of view 717 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: as well. And I love so. My husband is Doug Savant, 718 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 3: and he played Matt Fielding. He was the gay character 719 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: on Melrose, and his perspective on the beginning where you 720 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: were Courtney, but his perspective on the beginning. But also 721 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: he had such a unique experience playing the gay character 722 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: at that time when television shows in the nineties weren't 723 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: really portraying that. You know, what we're doing now is 724 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: far greater and far better than what he was able 725 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: to do then, and so it's just been great to 726 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: see it through his eyes. 727 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and two things. First of all, it's so great 728 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: that he played that character because he's such an ethical 729 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: good man, and I remember them trying to ask him 730 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: what his sexuality was and it's like, I'm not even 731 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: addressing that that's not important. We're talking about a character 732 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: and this is important. He really, he was such the 733 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: perfect strong He has such a good character, and it 734 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: would he was such a great person to play that character. 735 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: Well, I can't. Yeah. 736 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: But also, it's not just that you guys met there, 737 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: it's that you're still married, right Like I dated Andrew, 738 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: you dated Grant? Did you date anyone in our little Melrose. 739 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: Place where she's not telling. 740 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, well we have a lot of I 741 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: just got married from ago, so that. 742 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 5: So cute. 743 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: But that you guys met, got married and are still married. 744 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: I guess it's exceptional in Hollywood anymore. 745 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: It's exceptional anywhere, right, Like it's exceptional anywhere. That's so sweet. 746 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: Well, and I you know, I can't wait till we 747 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: have guests on and we will have our other cast 748 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: casts and they will get to speak on their experiences too, 749 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: and bring their memories and share, and we'll be able 750 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: to have those conversations. I can't like that will be 751 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: part of our podcasts. We'll get to have all our 752 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 3: old castmates come back, and you know, like you mentioned 753 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 3: Doug speaking about his experience you really have to hear 754 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: it from his point of view because he's so eloquent 755 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: about that. So I can't wait. 756 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: So one of the funniest people in the world can't 757 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: wait to spend an hour with him. 758 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait to see all our old friends 759 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: when they come back. 760 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 5: That will be just a blast. 761 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: I started in nineteen eighty three, so whatever year we 762 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: are now, and I look back and I've done another 763 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: series after this for even more years, but this one, 764 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: because it was that time in my life, really felt 765 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: like family on the set, you know, and just the crew, 766 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: and like we said, doing things on the weekends, like 767 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,760 Speaker 2: motorcycles or whatever. 768 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. 769 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: I remember going to Target and getting earthquake supplies with 770 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Heather or self help books or whatever. I just remember 771 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 2: like a real feeling because of that time and the 772 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 2: age that I was of it, ing secure. I loved 773 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: going to work every day, driving out to Santa Clarita, 774 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 2: having that stability. 775 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 4: You know. So that's what this show felt like. 776 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: Like. I left college to start acting, so this felt 777 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 2: like my four years of college or something like that. 778 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: It just felt really really good, and we were starting 779 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 2: to do things, you know, outside of shooting when we 780 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: had time, we worked a lot. 781 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love I love that you say that, actually, 782 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: because part of it was that we were in Santa Clarita, 783 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: so we were it's almost like going a way to college, right, 784 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: we were far away. I was remembering when you guys 785 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,439 Speaker 1: came on, We're we're still going to Ree Calendars for lunch. 786 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely right, we had an hour for lunch. We had 787 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: an hour and we would all go to Marie Calendars 788 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: and sit together in Clora remembered. Do you remember that 789 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: between scenes? And this doesn't happen a lot, we would 790 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: all hang out in the office, like we would hang 791 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: out and talk, and I like you and Doug. You 792 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: may not have gotten together, but one of the times 793 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: you connected was at a party at my house. Like 794 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: we actually hung out outside of work. And you're right, 795 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: we were all that age. I was twenty four when 796 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: I started Moro's Place, so we really were all that 797 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: age having that experience. 798 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 3: And I think those years are such formative years, were 799 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 3: like becoming who we're going to be as adults, but 800 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 3: we're not there. We're children in our early twenties, and 801 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 3: so we were all having this shared experience in really 802 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: formative years of our lives, and so it's impossible for 803 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: that not to have sort of informed the rest of 804 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 3: our lives. And then to be able to go back 805 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: and watch these episodes now is such a special privilege. 806 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 3: Most people don't have film of those years of themselves. 807 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 3: And so, like you were saying, you look at that 808 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 3: young girl, and you say, oh, why didn't I appreciate, 809 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 3: Like why didn't I just give myself a break? And 810 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 3: like look at my cute little young self. You know, 811 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: it's like for for us to be able to go 812 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: back and look at ourselves at that age and at 813 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 3: that time of our lives. And it really was, like 814 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: you said, daff like our family at that time television 815 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 3: and had that way of because you have to go 816 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: back every week and every day. It's not like a 817 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 3: film where you're like done, and but it was our 818 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: family and it was definitely unforgettable time in all of 819 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 3: our lives. And the fact that we all still admire 820 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 3: and adore each other and I we're so lucky to 821 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 3: get this opportunity to come back together and just like 822 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 3: go back. 823 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: And play together. 824 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, go back down memory land together. Yeah, how funny. 825 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: The other thing that was different about it is that 826 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: because it wasn't as huge success when it started. We're 827 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: all kind of I remember and this may be a 828 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: before you guys were on it, but we went to 829 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: some maybe Magic Mountain, because we shot right next to 830 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: Magic Mountain for like a fan thing, and it was 831 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: nobody like it was just the guest. There were people 832 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: like who are you? What show were you? Like, nobody knew. 833 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: We were like Caesar one for someone nobody knew. Wo 834 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: we were so uncomfortable and we got to have that 835 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: ride together too, right. We all went from relative unknowns. 836 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: You had a career before and granted in the soap opera, 837 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: but for the moment part where will it dove unknowns 838 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: and we had that journey together like as it took off, 839 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: we got to do that together too. So we went 840 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: through a lot together. We all went from unknowns to 841 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: recognizable actors in the span of a year or two. 842 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 2: And and our off screen lives were intertwined clearly by 843 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 2: you two, who dated all the good looking stars on. 844 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: I dated Andrew pretty early on. 845 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it. 846 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: Was a weird thing to sort of juggle that, you know, 847 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: becoming not just like a private person but like all 848 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 3: of a sudden there was a public sort of entitlement 849 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 3: to your life. You know, that was just a weird 850 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 3: thing to juggle. I think it is for any in 851 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: any decade. It's a weird thing to come to terms with, 852 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: like when you go from being unknown to all of 853 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 3: a sudden people. I remember like the first time on 854 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,439 Speaker 3: a red carpet when photographers were like calling my name 855 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 3: to get me to turn my head and look at 856 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: their camera. And I was like, wow, do they know 857 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 3: my name? 858 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: Why? 859 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 3: What that is so weird? How do they know my name? 860 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 3: That was bizarre, Like you don't know me? Why are 861 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 3: you calling me by my name? I mean I understood 862 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: if they maybe knew me as a character, but like 863 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 3: my name, it just struck me as like ye, So 864 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: it was like it was really disconcerting, and it's like 865 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 3: I can't remember who was with me. Good because you're 866 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: on a television. 867 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: Like a carpet. 868 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 3: But to me, it was like it was so confusing 869 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 3: and disconcerting and it took a while to get used to, 870 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 3: like it wasn't you know, it's a weird thing. And 871 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 3: then yeah, but that's that's what we all experienced together. 872 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was so different then like I think 873 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: now the volume has been turned up so much. Like 874 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: I remember, like Andrew and I could we couldn't live 875 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: a normal life like we both lived in like Hollywood. 876 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: We could go to the store, we could lunch, we go, 877 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: we could go to movies like it was pretty normal. 878 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: And we were on a red carpet. They would try 879 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: to I remember being offended that they were trying to 880 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: take our picture together on the red carpet, which is 881 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: we're at a red carpet event. But we had a 882 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: sense of privacy that I don't think recognizable people do today. 883 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: I think it would have been I'm really happy to 884 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: not be famous like that today because I think it's 885 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: so much more intense, so much more to see. 886 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 3: Considering Yeah, exactly, I'm so glad that when we did it, 887 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: we did it in the nineties. 888 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 4: Yes, we have. 889 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 3: So many stories and so much to talk about, and 890 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 3: I cannot wait to do this every week with you. 891 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 3: We get to have our old cast members come back. 892 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 3: I imagine that over time we might take fans questions 893 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: and be able to respond to that, which I think 894 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 3: is really cool because obviously the fans it's what it's 895 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: you know what it's all about and why we're back 896 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 3: here again. 897 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: So I would love to hear what the fans say, 898 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 2: what the questions they have, because I think the fun 899 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: is revisiting everybody's youth, you know, like everyone who's listening. 900 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: That's why I would want to listen to this, you know, 901 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: to go back and watch it. But then also through 902 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 2: that I get to relive my youth. So I'm I'd 903 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 2: love to hear the fans. 904 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 3: And some people might be finding it and watching it 905 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 3: for the first time, which I think is sort of 906 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: a fun perspective too, that the old fans can come 907 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 3: to it and they might have memories of where they 908 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 3: were when and with whom and while they watched. But 909 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 3: other people, We welcome everybody to come and watch the 910 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 3: show for the. 911 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 4: First time, and you can watch it now stream it yep. Stream. 912 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: We actually had a friend, does it not apropos of anything? 913 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: Who said we were looking for a new show to watch. 914 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 1: We decided we're going to watch Molo's Place. I was like, well, 915 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: your timing is impeccable. 916 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, that will. 917 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: Be watching it with you, yes, and we can meet 918 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 3: around the water cooler to talk about it the next day. 919 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: Water can't be so excited to 920 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 3: Still the place,