1
00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,439
Speaker 1: Me Around the NFL Podcast. He's tired of Bill's quarterback

2
00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,920
Speaker 1: battle stories. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

3
00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,360
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and I'm

4
00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,680
Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling

5
00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,279
Speaker 1: and Greg Rooseval. What is up, boys? Hey Dan, what's happening?

6
00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,800
Speaker 1: What is happening? We're joined here by Mark Sess. Nope,

7
00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,200
Speaker 1: that's just a Brown's helmet with a headset on it.

8
00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,880
Speaker 1: Very clever by our producer t d I like that.

9
00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,200
Speaker 1: You can see the TV is really starting to get

10
00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,200
Speaker 1: into the spirit of things now that NFL Now is live,

11
00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,720
Speaker 1: we can I mean, we said this before and it

12
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,000
Speaker 1: was not true. It was I wouldn't call it a

13
00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,879
Speaker 1: lie to the listeners and viewers. It was just we

14
00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,120
Speaker 1: didn't know it was. It wasn't ready. But now it

15
00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,360
Speaker 1: is ready NFL dot Com slash now where you can

16
00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,920
Speaker 1: watch every episode in full, gentlemen, as well as clips.

17
00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know, maybe I don't. Is there anything

18
00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,840
Speaker 1: else TV that they do? You get any money if

19
00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,720
Speaker 1: you watch it? Is there any other reason to entice

20
00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,480
Speaker 1: people to watch it? Um? Just watch the show, guys.

21
00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,640
Speaker 1: This is a full lawn show. This is uh, this

22
00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,360
Speaker 1: is a show at Maximum Shrinth's day, Damnagerek would say, well,

23
00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,399
Speaker 1: our audio listeners who have been pining, just waiting to

24
00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,200
Speaker 1: see Greg's antics in the studio, now you can see

25
00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,440
Speaker 1: this is the big moment. And uh, if you've noticed

26
00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,800
Speaker 1: people that are watching Chris Westling has I would say

27
00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,160
Speaker 1: the look of a cheshire cat right now a couple

28
00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,440
Speaker 1: of days out of the out of the office. That's

29
00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,280
Speaker 1: actually just the makeup they put put on it, like

30
00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,640
Speaker 1: the I look like. Um. You know, you've been out

31
00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,680
Speaker 1: and about in the city and we haven't had a

32
00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,840
Speaker 1: lot of communication with you. How you doing, buddy, I'm

33
00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360
Speaker 1: doing great. I was only off one day, by the way,

34
00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,480
Speaker 1: it's just an off day. You met up with a

35
00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,120
Speaker 1: listener of the show. Yeah, and how's that going? Pretty well?

36
00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm having fun. What else are you gonna give us?

37
00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,760
Speaker 1: That's all I got. I'm expecting Dan to really die here. Well,

38
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how to our private lives. I love

39
00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,600
Speaker 1: to dive into the private life, but it was very

40
00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,280
Speaker 1: busy this morning, so it didn't even get a chance

41
00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,080
Speaker 1: to talk to us. I don't know how. You know,

42
00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,680
Speaker 1: if west would rather keep this off the air, or

43
00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,400
Speaker 1: rather whether he wants too late for that. Yeah, I

44
00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,280
Speaker 1: mean Greg dove in. So I guess the question is

45
00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,400
Speaker 1: when are we going to meet her? Uh? Is she

46
00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,320
Speaker 1: on the show today? Is? Is she far enough away

47
00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,120
Speaker 1: where it wouldn't be feasible for her to drive in

48
00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,920
Speaker 1: right now and and sit and mark spot. She's not

49
00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,399
Speaker 1: going to be on the show. She's in Marina del Rey,

50
00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,520
Speaker 1: and I think she's just going for a dog on

51
00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,280
Speaker 1: the beach. Wow. You you you know before you got

52
00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,600
Speaker 1: up here, you know, I talked to him a little

53
00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,320
Speaker 1: bit and at one point you did say you compared

54
00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,320
Speaker 1: to to a cross between you and celer at some point,

55
00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,560
Speaker 1: which sounds confusing and attractive at the same time. Wait,

56
00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,360
Speaker 1: the woman is a cross between well, I was talking

57
00:02:54,400 --> 00:03:00,320
Speaker 1: more specifically about her um party in habits Okay, you know,

58
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,040
Speaker 1: are you going out? You went out a little bit,

59
00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,160
Speaker 1: We went out the last two nights yet Anyway, so

60
00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,800
Speaker 1: this is we're gonna delve into this very deep as

61
00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880
Speaker 1: time progresses. It might have been end up ruining the relationship.

62
00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, but we're not trying to do that.

63
00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,679
Speaker 1: We want this too, We want something to bloom here.

64
00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,079
Speaker 1: I don't think you can ruin it, alright. I like that.

65
00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,920
Speaker 1: That is a challenge. I thought you was talking about

66
00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,920
Speaker 1: West's relationship with us, because it definitely yes. And speaking

67
00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,320
Speaker 1: of West, before we get into what's coming up today,

68
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720
Speaker 1: I want everybody to know that next week what's coming back.

69
00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,560
Speaker 1: And it's a perfect timing with NFL now launching. Uh, finally,

70
00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,240
Speaker 1: when West's toasters right around the corner again, the fin

71
00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,160
Speaker 1: also news to West, who was gallivanting across the West

72
00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,720
Speaker 1: coast yesterday. Uh. When West's toaster the game of Skill

73
00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,520
Speaker 1: and Valora are are you know, very popular? Hated by

74
00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,600
Speaker 1: the Boss Greg Rosenthal. Trivia game is coming back one

75
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,960
Speaker 1: more time before the season starts, West to defend his

76
00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000
Speaker 1: title and his toaster. I like it. Dan was like,

77
00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, what can we do before we actually have

78
00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,160
Speaker 1: important things to talk about? You know when football season starts. Oh,

79
00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 1: here's one thing just to waste some time. I mean,

80
00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,440
Speaker 1: you could look at that way if you don't like fun.

81
00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,960
Speaker 1: I look at as it's good, truth be told. I'm

82
00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,240
Speaker 1: starting to kind of tire of the game myself, just

83
00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,400
Speaker 1: gotten too easy. WHOA well, you know what, I take

84
00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,880
Speaker 1: that all these tomato cans we've had lined up last

85
00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,800
Speaker 1: times gotten too easy. Last time I heard that it

86
00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,560
Speaker 1: was about you and your corn hole, and that hasn't

87
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,000
Speaker 1: been going well lately. I think it's going pretty well.

88
00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,839
Speaker 1: Just put it this way. Just like I took you

89
00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,600
Speaker 1: down in cornhole last weekend, you might face it a

90
00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,680
Speaker 1: new challenger that might make you think, oh, this game

91
00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,719
Speaker 1: is still challenging. Are you gonna throw a party and

92
00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,919
Speaker 1: dump a bunch of substances into my body before we

93
00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,719
Speaker 1: play the toaster game? Too? Smells like excuses? It not

94
00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,640
Speaker 1: a bad idea. Alright, big show coming up today, gentlemen,

95
00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,800
Speaker 1: A lot to get to, a lot of news. Two

96
00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 1: preseason games on Thursday, the Lions and Redskins and the

97
00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,919
Speaker 1: Bills and Cleveland Browns, who are are um friend and

98
00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,760
Speaker 1: colleague Connor ore Set He predicted Buffalo Cleveland the game

99
00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,400
Speaker 1: of the preseason and eleven ten final out in UH.

100
00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,760
Speaker 1: In Cleveland, they have an exciting ending, but it will

101
00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,839
Speaker 1: also was three three going into the fourth quarter, so shocking.

102
00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was the game of them.

103
00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,480
Speaker 1: So we'll get into those games and some really juicy

104
00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,960
Speaker 1: subplots UH coming out of those will also And this

105
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,279
Speaker 1: is UH part three of three we've been doing it

106
00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,960
Speaker 1: all weeks, so we hope you've been taking notes of

107
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:39,719
Speaker 1: the around the NFL fantasy extravaganza. Mm hmm, celebratory and special. Yes.

108
00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,680
Speaker 1: Part three, we're gonna get into a closer look at

109
00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,640
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, which you're not winning your fantasy league without

110
00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,240
Speaker 1: some stud quarterback play. And then and this is really

111
00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,120
Speaker 1: this will not be talking about players, but philosophies of

112
00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:59,039
Speaker 1: draft day, which will give give the icons of fantasy

113
00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,360
Speaker 1: here in West a chance at at the floor. And

114
00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,360
Speaker 1: with NFL media outsider, a fantasy outsider, Mark Cesler out

115
00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,640
Speaker 1: of the office today, um I will step in. I

116
00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,680
Speaker 1: will give some philosophies as well. Good luck to Mark

117
00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,920
Speaker 1: who's fighting a six d dollar ticket at city Hall today.

118
00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,279
Speaker 1: That's a true story. Well, I think this Brown's helmet

119
00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,039
Speaker 1: might really offer as much good fantasy advice as as

120
00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,359
Speaker 1: the fantasy outsider has during the week. That's fired. You

121
00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,960
Speaker 1: could you could definitely at Mark Sessler NFL with that

122
00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,360
Speaker 1: line from Greg. So that's everything coming up today and

123
00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,320
Speaker 1: uh so TD we Um, I'll throw to you behind

124
00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 1: the glass, buddy. Um are we gonna do some news?

125
00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,920
Speaker 1: Is this part of the news or is this are

126
00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,240
Speaker 1: we talking about the games? First? How are we doing this?

127
00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna do We're gonna do news, We're gonna talk

128
00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,440
Speaker 1: about the games. All part of It's all part of

129
00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,560
Speaker 1: the show, guys, And I'm just glad that we're here. Well,

130
00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,679
Speaker 1: I know it's part of the show. Do the shadow

131
00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,920
Speaker 1: even figures now that you have a ball cap on

132
00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,040
Speaker 1: right now and you were on video and I'm behind

133
00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,640
Speaker 1: the glass, guys, what hamper create? He also has a

134
00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,080
Speaker 1: graph thick and you can watch where he refers to

135
00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,360
Speaker 1: himself as young. I don't refer to myself That's why

136
00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,720
Speaker 1: it's in quotation marks. It's also young ish. Kobe, you're

137
00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,960
Speaker 1: almost thirty years I hope, I hope nobody high up

138
00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,760
Speaker 1: five years younger than Kobe. All right, so let's start. Yeah,

139
00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,440
Speaker 1: let's start with the games then, and uh, if we're

140
00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna start with the games, we should probably start with

141
00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third. Ye, we gotta do a news drop. Oh,

142
00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:31,320
Speaker 1: let's do it, because that's why you left. All right,

143
00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,080
Speaker 1: that's part of the show. Okay, Can I talk about

144
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,160
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third? Go ahead? All right, here we go. Uh,

145
00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,640
Speaker 1: the Redskins quarterback who is entering really what feels like

146
00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,600
Speaker 1: a make or break year in Washington. But after what

147
00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,480
Speaker 1: we saw on Thursday, you wonder if he's even gonna

148
00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,520
Speaker 1: have a chance. He got absolutely battered in win over

149
00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,760
Speaker 1: the lines. He left the game in the second quarter

150
00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,840
Speaker 1: after suffering a concussion and a shoulder stinger. Greg You

151
00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,440
Speaker 1: wrote about this. He took an absolute pounding in a

152
00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,680
Speaker 1: short amount of time. The same thing that happened in

153
00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,679
Speaker 1: the first preseason game happened even more in this game.

154
00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,720
Speaker 1: Every time he dropped back he got hit hard. Literally,

155
00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,040
Speaker 1: he dropped back to pass eight times and he got

156
00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,520
Speaker 1: hit six times. He fumbled the ball twice, he got

157
00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 1: sacked three times. They gained or they lost five yards

158
00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,200
Speaker 1: combined on those times eight going back. So it was

159
00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,680
Speaker 1: a fiasco of epic proportions. Most of it was on

160
00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line and a lot of and some of

161
00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,440
Speaker 1: it was on Robert Griffin the third two. Michael Robinson

162
00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,920
Speaker 1: had a great piece after the game showing how he

163
00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,520
Speaker 1: didn't see a free blitzer in Any veteran quarterback or

164
00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,679
Speaker 1: even a young quarterback should know that, and he got

165
00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,160
Speaker 1: hammered because of it on one of those plays. It

166
00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,440
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't look any different than he did last year.

167
00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,640
Speaker 1: He's holding the ball too long into pocket. Look, he

168
00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,319
Speaker 1: basically got sacked at at a historic rate last year.

169
00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,839
Speaker 1: No quarterback since has had as few pass attempts in

170
00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,040
Speaker 1: as many sacks as RG three did last year. He

171
00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,800
Speaker 1: had basically the same amount of dropbacks as Kirk Cousins,

172
00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,160
Speaker 1: and he was sacked thirty three times. Kirk Cousin was

173
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,360
Speaker 1: sacked eight times last year. This the problem is r

174
00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,160
Speaker 1: G three, this is a horrific match. You have an

175
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,080
Speaker 1: offensive line and Brandon Sureff, the number five overall pick,

176
00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,959
Speaker 1: did not do well here. They were missing their left tackle,

177
00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,720
Speaker 1: which doesn't help matters. But this is the match of

178
00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's overwhelmed against the good defensive line

179
00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,840
Speaker 1: by the way um and a quarterback that cannot feel pressure,

180
00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,240
Speaker 1: that doesn't know how to read blitzers. So you put

181
00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,559
Speaker 1: those things together, there's almost and I tweeted it, Yes,

182
00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,400
Speaker 1: there's almost no way I can imagine unless r G

183
00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880
Speaker 1: three could get bench for performance reasons too. But that

184
00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,480
Speaker 1: he's healthy after week three of the season, he's just

185
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. I totally agree. He's played less than

186
00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,560
Speaker 1: a half of football and he's taken at least nine

187
00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,719
Speaker 1: big shots so far. I mean, that's that's crazy. He's

188
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,640
Speaker 1: taken more big shots than Tom Brady takes in an

189
00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,720
Speaker 1: entire season now this time, most of them really was

190
00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,440
Speaker 1: the offensive line's fault. That uh Sheriff, as you mentioned,

191
00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean he just got pushed back by one of

192
00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,160
Speaker 1: the Dominican Sue's replacements, Tyrone Walker at Ross Tucker, who

193
00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,599
Speaker 1: is a former guard you know, made the comment I

194
00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,240
Speaker 1: think it's safe to say Sheriff is not going to

195
00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,040
Speaker 1: be this year, Zack Martin, as they were trying to

196
00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,880
Speaker 1: talk him up. They've already moved position. He struggled. But

197
00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,200
Speaker 1: it has to be mentioned on the play in which

198
00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,880
Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third was concussed and they checked him

199
00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,600
Speaker 1: out for a shoulder stringer, shoulder stinger, he just dropped

200
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,080
Speaker 1: the ball. And he just dropped the ball. No one

201
00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,560
Speaker 1: touched him. He fell on the ball and people jumped

202
00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,000
Speaker 1: on him. That was his second fumble. Both of those

203
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,680
Speaker 1: fumbles last night. We're really on him. He's had terrible

204
00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,319
Speaker 1: ball security too as a pro. So that's that's a

205
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,680
Speaker 1: legitimate problem. No. No one kind of pointed that out

206
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,400
Speaker 1: after the game, that that that's on him, that he

207
00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,880
Speaker 1: got hurt in that spot. He forgot how to play

208
00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,880
Speaker 1: quarterback last year, and nothing I've seen in these two

209
00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,079
Speaker 1: preseason games suggest that he's relearned it. He needs a

210
00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,880
Speaker 1: fresh start, he needs to sit for a year behind

211
00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,199
Speaker 1: another quarterback, and he needs to be rewired to learn

212
00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,640
Speaker 1: how to play in the pockets. I don't think it's

213
00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen in Washington. This to me is the most

214
00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,800
Speaker 1: oppressing team in the NFL right now. I don't see

215
00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,360
Speaker 1: any reason for hope in Washington. I think this is

216
00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,599
Speaker 1: another This is a four and twelve season, and I

217
00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,559
Speaker 1: don't see how you can get excited about this team.

218
00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,520
Speaker 1: And I don't want to. How about their number five

219
00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,280
Speaker 1: overall draft picks. The guard they drafted into play right

220
00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,439
Speaker 1: tackle and he's already been converted to guard and gotting

221
00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,800
Speaker 1: worked over. Yeah, I mean, there's really nothing to And

222
00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,520
Speaker 1: maybe he's apparently he's a much better run blocker at

223
00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,520
Speaker 1: this stage and he's working on his games. That's not

224
00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna cell ticket's. I got a big stadium to fill

225
00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,840
Speaker 1: in Washington. It seems like it's very time for you

226
00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,640
Speaker 1: to make your point about first round offensive lineman high

227
00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,080
Speaker 1: in the draft. Yeah, everyone always says those are safe picks,

228
00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,320
Speaker 1: and there have been more bus in the offensive line

229
00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,640
Speaker 1: lately than anything. Jason Smith, Eric Fisher. I'd like to

230
00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,599
Speaker 1: see Luke Joco blocks somebody. It is worth noting. J

231
00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,000
Speaker 1: Gruden said after the game that he expects Robert Griffin

232
00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,280
Speaker 1: the third uh will remain the starter. It's not like

233
00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,960
Speaker 1: a situation where if these guys come in and look great,

234
00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,839
Speaker 1: they expect Griffin. Once he'st what are they watch? We'll

235
00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,040
Speaker 1: be starting and we'll see both those quarterbacks. Maybe a third.

236
00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,160
Speaker 1: John Beck could be in the picture. McCoy is the

237
00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,240
Speaker 1: one who replaced him last night. They're saying Colt McCoy

238
00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,960
Speaker 1: could be the backup. I kind of doubt that he'll

239
00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,760
Speaker 1: be injured just as much as r G three. Al Right,

240
00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,480
Speaker 1: moving on, Let's move on to to the Cleveland Browns

241
00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,520
Speaker 1: who lost in eleven ten heartbreaker. You know, we don't

242
00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,360
Speaker 1: study the scores enough, but eleven ten is a funny score. Well,

243
00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,120
Speaker 1: not on that when e J. Manuel completes a beautiful

244
00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,360
Speaker 1: touchdown over a minute and then they put up a

245
00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,040
Speaker 1: two point conversion also from e J. Manuel on it,

246
00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,360
Speaker 1: that's a tough way to lose. I just want to

247
00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,680
Speaker 1: read actually allowed the text I was getting from Mark

248
00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,160
Speaker 1: Sessler last night. This wasn't a pre planned bit w

249
00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760
Speaker 1: t F was that that was off of Manzel pass

250
00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,800
Speaker 1: f this team. I'm editing it here very s show.

251
00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,959
Speaker 1: That's after the two point conversion, So he was not Yeah,

252
00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,840
Speaker 1: he's not plugged in on this while I was off

253
00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,720
Speaker 1: gallivantin around as you put it. I texted Mark because

254
00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,880
Speaker 1: I was getting text from people on Tybe saying Johnny

255
00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,760
Speaker 1: football looks like a real player. And I texted Mark

256
00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,480
Speaker 1: and he says barely. He was okay, two great throws,

257
00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,960
Speaker 1: some messiness. So that's a situation. That's what we'll talk

258
00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,560
Speaker 1: about here. Johnny Manziel did not start this game. Josh

259
00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,000
Speaker 1: McCown did. And you know, Wes, Josh McCown stinks. I mean,

260
00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,240
Speaker 1: I I know he doesn't have a lot of tools

261
00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,760
Speaker 1: around him, but he appeared in three Why did you

262
00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,319
Speaker 1: take the second preseason game after which he played poorly

263
00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,280
Speaker 1: and said he stinks, But after he played great in

264
00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,400
Speaker 1: the first preseason game, you didn't say, hey, Josh McCown

265
00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,480
Speaker 1: is awesome. Well listen, because we have enough evidence to

266
00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,440
Speaker 1: know that he stinks. So when I see him stink again.

267
00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, this is the Josh McCown that

268
00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,480
Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna get. He throws two picks in

269
00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,160
Speaker 1: three possessions. He doesn't. He just he's basically he takes

270
00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,960
Speaker 1: way too many chances and he can't do with this

271
00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,160
Speaker 1: type of skill player talent. He's not a good caretaker. Wes.

272
00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,559
Speaker 1: I don't think he is a caretaker. I I think

273
00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,640
Speaker 1: you're right about that, But I don't think you should

274
00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,640
Speaker 1: judge him off of like what a quarter of action

275
00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,679
Speaker 1: and one judging him off his whole career other than

276
00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,160
Speaker 1: five games. I agree with that West. But the second interception,

277
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,160
Speaker 1: which was picked off by Ronald Darby, was a reminder.

278
00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,680
Speaker 1: There was a couple of throws like that that he

279
00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,760
Speaker 1: took off his back foot with pressure right in his face,

280
00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920
Speaker 1: and it was kind of that Josh mccount, Now, I'm

281
00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,680
Speaker 1: just gonna go for it. I'm the old boy slinger

282
00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,520
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work with the brown It worked when

283
00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,000
Speaker 1: you were thrown to six four Brandon Marshall, six three

284
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,040
Speaker 1: Elseean Jeffrey and six seven martellis Ben exactly, but that

285
00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,600
Speaker 1: most teams don't have that. That's a problem when you've

286
00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,719
Speaker 1: got Taylor Gabriel and Travis Benjamin at five ft nine

287
00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:16,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. That mark your thoughts. Mm hmmm, yeah, plenty

288
00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:21,240
Speaker 1: of hope, upset, Okay, good talk, Mark Um the old

289
00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,360
Speaker 1: Southern boy gun slinger by the way, or slinger I

290
00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,080
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, that's kind of what mccount is. He's

291
00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,480
Speaker 1: like a poor man's Ryan Fitzpatrick. So McCown McCown doesn't

292
00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,160
Speaker 1: do anything. He plays a half. Johnny Manziel comes in,

293
00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,400
Speaker 1: does some things. I mean, he had some moments. He

294
00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,479
Speaker 1: finished ten of eighteen and eighteen yards through a touchdown,

295
00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,760
Speaker 1: had at least one play on a nice scramble, or

296
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,400
Speaker 1: it reminded you of the old Johnny football days of

297
00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,680
Speaker 1: Texas A and m Um. So it leads to the

298
00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,920
Speaker 1: question do the Browns have a quarterback controversy brewing here?

299
00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,440
Speaker 1: Mike Petton shot it down, But should we believe Josh

300
00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,120
Speaker 1: McCown will absolutely start Week one? Still, there's no controversy now,

301
00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,840
Speaker 1: but there will be. There's no way my accounts starting

302
00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,720
Speaker 1: all season. Patton said after the game. McCown is firmly

303
00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,600
Speaker 1: the number one, and I've been I said it to

304
00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,080
Speaker 1: open the preseason. Manzel is competing against the October version

305
00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,360
Speaker 1: of account that's going to be struggling. And right now,

306
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,120
Speaker 1: Manziel has shown enough, I think in the preseason to

307
00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,000
Speaker 1: get the coaches thinking, okay, he he could be a

308
00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,360
Speaker 1: good mid season replacement. That one throw he had on

309
00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,600
Speaker 1: the move was unbelievable, But the other decisions, which John

310
00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,480
Speaker 1: Gruden really liked, was he was making checks at the

311
00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,120
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, he was throwing short passes. These two

312
00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,280
Speaker 1: weeks where I watched him, I would just say he

313
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,080
Speaker 1: looked okay, he looked like a solid NFL quarterback, and

314
00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,960
Speaker 1: that's progress for him. I agree. I think that everything

315
00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,040
Speaker 1: you pointed to means that when they are three and

316
00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,520
Speaker 1: six or whatever and at the people in Cleveland gonna

317
00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,480
Speaker 1: be clamoring for Johnny Manziel at that point, I would

318
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,600
Speaker 1: be surprised. Yeah, if McCown doesn't play well, I don't

319
00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,200
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a ton of rope. I could

320
00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760
Speaker 1: see him playing by the end of September. Potential that

321
00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,760
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, It's like last year when the Jaguars

322
00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 1: kept swearing up and down that Bortles would sit out

323
00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,560
Speaker 1: all season, and you knew by by the end of September,

324
00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,680
Speaker 1: he'd be starting, because we know what Josh mccounty, we

325
00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,280
Speaker 1: know what Chad Henny is. It's a weird thing though,

326
00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks it's like they're either good or they're bad,

327
00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,160
Speaker 1: and there's no in between. With the storyline. Last week,

328
00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,920
Speaker 1: after r G three's game, r G three good, So

329
00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,840
Speaker 1: he's good. Now everything is good with r G three

330
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,880
Speaker 1: played pretty well this week. It's like, h m back,

331
00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,880
Speaker 1: we pointed out last week a better quarterback. But I'm

332
00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,560
Speaker 1: just saying mad, that was fine, but let's not get

333
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,400
Speaker 1: carried away. At a six point five yards per attempt,

334
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,440
Speaker 1: they didn't really score much. I'm dropping my um confidence

335
00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,800
Speaker 1: that the Browns are playoff contended down to two and

336
00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,440
Speaker 1: a half Indian Barrel Grom after watching the game. I

337
00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,200
Speaker 1: think that's a fair assessment. Um. Let's talk about the

338
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,480
Speaker 1: Bills now, and let's talk about Tyrod Taylor, who played

339
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,680
Speaker 1: the entire first half in this game, again looked competent.

340
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,160
Speaker 1: He completed seven of ten passes sixty five yard as

341
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,040
Speaker 1: he had four runs for forty one yards, again showing

342
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,160
Speaker 1: that mobility that you know Rex Ryan loves in a quarterback.

343
00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,919
Speaker 1: So you look at this, it really does seem like

344
00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 1: Chris Westling. This is his job to lose. Well, I

345
00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,919
Speaker 1: think we've we've seen this since April. We knew it

346
00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,720
Speaker 1: would be Tyrod Taylor's job to lose. Matt Castle is

347
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,760
Speaker 1: a bum. Well wait a second, stagonizing using the royal

348
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,040
Speaker 1: we Tyrod Taylor was gonna guess. We knew that j

349
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,120
Speaker 1: He's played more of this season than he's ever played,

350
00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,800
Speaker 1: that those guys were failures. In the NFL has starting quarterbacks,

351
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,920
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor hasn't had a chance to fail yet. Rex

352
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,400
Speaker 1: Ryan loves him, and he adds an element to their

353
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,439
Speaker 1: offense that the other two guys don't. Well, here's what

354
00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280
Speaker 1: I know. Rex Ryan has no clue how to coach offense,

355
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,399
Speaker 1: or quarterbacks or make decisions. And once he sees a

356
00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,240
Speaker 1: quarterback running around for a first down, he's just gonna

357
00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,440
Speaker 1: get all excited. So Tyrod Taylor looked good last night.

358
00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,800
Speaker 1: He only scored three points in three drives, so let's

359
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,800
Speaker 1: not get carried too far away. But he made good decisions.

360
00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 1: He made some NFL throws. I watched the first half

361
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,200
Speaker 1: for this game with Mark Sessler and our downstairs. Yeah,

362
00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,439
Speaker 1: by the way, Ali bomb Bari Bombury editor downstairs, very

363
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,440
Speaker 1: upset that you called him a browny, said he was

364
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,639
Speaker 1: part of browny culture and he could be litigious about it,

365
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,560
Speaker 1: just letting you know. I he didn't mention the lutitious part.

366
00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 1: I know that you've mentioned it a few times. Are you?

367
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,920
Speaker 1: Are you angling? We want to be I want to

368
00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,159
Speaker 1: be your book agent, and I'll Lea's lawyers. So when

369
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 1: you make a ton of money off books, I'll sue

370
00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,600
Speaker 1: you for that money. With Ali, I get it all.

371
00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a hard time winning this case because

372
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 1: I have photographic evidence of my little pony being on

373
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,560
Speaker 1: his screen at on his computer at work. All right, well,

374
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,520
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll dig into that a little more.

375
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 1: Greg save us. I can't save this. This is off

376
00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:48,360
Speaker 1: the rail, Dia Taylor. Well, one thing, I remember my point,

377
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,760
Speaker 1: but let me just make it uh. I will say

378
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 1: that he at one point he completes a past Tyrod Taylor,

379
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,240
Speaker 1: and I think it was Ali or maybe it was like, Wow,

380
00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,440
Speaker 1: this guy can play. He just completed a pass. We

381
00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 1: don't want to get too excited about the guys the

382
00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 1: Bills offense. He completed a pass. That's that's noteworthy. As

383
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 1: much as I've been rooting for Castle, I said, I

384
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,639
Speaker 1: wrote after the game, Well, they just gotta make Tyrod

385
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 1: Taylor the starter. Now make him the starter. Everyone. That

386
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 1: way he can play a lot in the third preseason game.

387
00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,160
Speaker 1: Everyone can prepare. But of course, immediately after the game,

388
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan says, we're not announcing a starter until week

389
00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,440
Speaker 1: one of the regular season, and we might not start

390
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor next week in the preseason. So he can't

391
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 1: even take a good thing and take advantage of it.

392
00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,440
Speaker 1: He doesn't handle the quarterback situation correctly at any point.

393
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,199
Speaker 1: Is there any way you could start none of them?

394
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 1: Can you? Can you start like Marcel Darius? I don't know.

395
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 1: I love the EJ. Manuel celebration though after he threw

396
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: the game. It was big, It was the biggest. The

397
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,280
Speaker 1: only person we know has no chance in this race. Uh.

398
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 1: In other news, yes, we talked about the Carolina Panthers. Uh.

399
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,959
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin, their number one receiver, went down with an

400
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: injury on Wednesday, spraying. The test confirmed the worst a

401
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 1: torn a c l for the emerging star just a DEVI,

402
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 1: a stating setback for the Panthers, who needed Benjamin to

403
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 1: kind of make the leap to superstar almost level status

404
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: to get this offense really to the next level. Now

405
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 1: they don't have him at all, Greg Rosenthal, how devastating

406
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 1: is this to the Panthers. Chris mentioned the other day

407
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: that he's one of the most valuable receivers to his

408
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 1: team because there's such a big drop off after him,

409
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,879
Speaker 1: and his size really helps out Cam Newton, who just

410
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: like throwing it up high and deep. Their number one

411
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: receiver right now is Corey Brown. If you don't know

412
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 1: who that is, I didn't really either for a second.

413
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,160
Speaker 1: Then I figured out it was Philly Brown, and Philly

414
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: Brown changed his name. That's their number one receiver right now.

415
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 1: By the way, Philly Brown a much better name than

416
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: Corey Brown. Yeah, everybody's named Corey Brown. There's got to

417
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 1: be at least seventeen point guards in thirty three wide

418
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: receivers named Corey Brown. He literally is listed as the

419
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: starter opposite Benjamin so in theory he's the number one,

420
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be him and Fungus and Jericho Cottry.

421
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: That is the worst wide receiver. That is worse than

422
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: the Browns receiver group. Riverboat came out and said, uh

423
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: that there it punches into Benjamin's position now, which makes

424
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: me think they want they want him to be the

425
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: number one. He has the size, they need him, they

426
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: need him. I think they went from NFC South favorites

427
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: and a chance to surprise in the playoffs too. Anyone

428
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: could take that division now and I don't think they're

429
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: going far in the playoffs without Calvin benn And we

430
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: should mention if we're mentioned funches and they're pushing him

431
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: to be in that role and he thinks he can

432
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: be it. He also strained his hamstring on that same practice,

433
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: and just like we were saying on Wednesday show, you

434
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: never know what happens with a hamstring stranger. You know,

435
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: they think he'll be ready for practice next week, but

436
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: you never know. So that even complicates his situation further. Yikes.

437
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,479
Speaker 1: Stephen Hill is somewhere thinking this could have been my chance. Remember, Yeah, well,

438
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: well let's look at some replacements to It's not like

439
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna find anything on the free agent pile either. Uh.

440
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 1: Here are some names all throughout their Reggie Wayne Wes Welker,

441
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: Saintanna Moss. Stop me when you hear somebody that will

442
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: help his team, Santonio Holmes, Brandon Lloyd Robert meet Um

443
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: because they just kept Cottrey on the roster. Greg was

444
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: talking about they were thinking about cutting him. Basically, don't

445
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 1: sign red you Wayne. Just keep Catrey on the roster.

446
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: He already knows better than Jericho Catry. Maybe it wasn't

447
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: last year him out. I don't know. It's bad. It's

448
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: a bad offense. They need their defense. The only way

449
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: that they win that division, I think is if they

450
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: their defense gets back to two thirteen level. If you're

451
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne and you're a borderline Hall of Famer, do

452
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: you really want to spend like the last thirteen games

453
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: of your career like posting two and twenty seven yards

454
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 1: for the Panthers. A lot of guys have done that

455
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: at the end of their career. Movie still hasn't in them.

456
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: But it would be good if he just went out

457
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: as a cult. We'll see what happens. Uh. Other injury news,

458
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals UM have an offensive line that you know,

459
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: entering training camp, we were excited about it. Well it's excited.

460
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean, I think they're gonna be

461
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: better and they'll be good if Curt on Dan's feelings

462
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: on offensive line yeah, I mean, it's just you know,

463
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,479
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But Mike Patty, who they

464
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: signed to a they signed in March to a big deal,

465
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: signed him away from the forty Niners, is expected to

466
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: undergo Arthur scotpic knee surgery that will sideline him about

467
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: six weeks, which is at least six weeks excuse me,

468
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: which is just the latest problem for a line. Bobby

469
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: Massey is facing a three game suspension. There's some issues

470
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: at center. So all of a sudden, guys, the Cardinals line,

471
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: which looked much improved, may not be. Yeah, I think

472
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: you had Jared Veldier at left tackle, Mikey Potty at

473
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: left guard, a couple of guys who were Pro Bowl caliber.

474
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: They thought they were all right at center. They had

475
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: to bring back Lyle cent line because they're two centers

476
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: that they had an early in camp were so bad.

477
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper two thousand thirteen first round pick, who basically

478
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: has not played in the NFL in two years. We

479
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: thought he could be good. He's a giant question mark.

480
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: And like you said, Bobby Massey, they're starting right tackles out.

481
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: Their whole offensive line is a question mark. Now, well,

482
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: I had party, couldn't pass protect and was struggling with

483
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,239
Speaker 1: some injuries playing through it in San Francisco last year.

484
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: They didn't really take a big bid to resign him

485
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 1: in the first place. Now he's out for a couple

486
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: of months. I'm just saying that he's not a bad

487
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: pass protector. Like you said, he's playing His play fell

488
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 1: off while playing through an injury that happened. To understand

489
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: how he do make him a bad favorite, That made

490
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: him a risk in free agency, and it does just

491
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: make you wonder about this whole offense. You know, the

492
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: running backs, the quarterback, the quarterback coming off a c

493
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: l S second thirty six years old or whatever. It's

494
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: a it's a concern. It's put it all together. And

495
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago we talked about the Cardinals

496
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: as a favorite, I mean, the Vikings are also up there,

497
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: but a favorite as a team around the NFL, and

498
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, now we don't know. Now there's there's definitely

499
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: reason and speaking of the team of a t L

500
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna start getting into it more, aren't we. And

501
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little treat for NFL now users

502
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 1: and of course the listeners because it's one of the

503
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: great hits of all time. Roll it t d oh

504
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: yeah to shine up on the team. It's a very

505
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: special honor, very special, so special that the most boring

506
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: team in the league became the team of a t

507
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: L last year eight Nate San Diego Chargers or whatever

508
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: they finished at two Panthers that came out organically. There

509
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: was a lot of fights for any new listeners that

510
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: haven't been with us. We choose a team that really

511
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: represents us as a group at all. It becomes West's

512
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: favorite team since he doesn't really have a team. Uh,

513
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers didn't really work out too well last year,

514
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: But I just let's let's be fair, West, you're begging

515
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: on the Chargers, but we had. The rest of us

516
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: were ready to sign on for the Cardinals last year,

517
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: which is a perfect team, and you threw up the

518
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: stop sign, So you can't go get honest for eventually

519
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: choosing my second favorite. Why is Gregg throwing up to

520
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: stop sign on the Cardinals this year? Well, I just

521
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: teams go up, and I I just kind of think

522
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: that this is a team that's going to fall back

523
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: to the pack. Look at the changes that they've had

524
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: on defense. Very few teams have had as much turnover

525
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: on defense as they've had. Uh, they had the injuries

526
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: last year of course on defense that they overcame. But

527
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: it's it's not as talented a group. I don't think

528
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: as you think it's got a good secondary. They just

529
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: seem like you gotta pick two or three teams in

530
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: each conference to fall out of the playoffs. And I'm

531
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, all right, Cardinals are one of those teams, Okay,

532
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: I I think, um, the Titans could be an option here.

533
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: We mentioned this last week, but look, Mark's in love

534
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: with David Cobb. Mark has it's getting weird about Greg

535
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: mentioned team. I like Mariotta and Dan. I was explaining

536
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: yesterday while I was guy venting around. I told her,

537
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: Damn will go along with anything if it's gonna make

538
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: the podcast goods. That's his loyalty. So my loyalty is

539
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: with and No, my loyalty is with the listeners and viewers.

540
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with that, Christopher. No. I meant

541
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: that as a compliment that you would not hold up

542
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: a team of a t l because you'll do anything

543
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: to make the podcast. Where I think I agree with

544
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: with the rest of the guys. In terms of choosing

545
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: the team of ATO, I'd be fine with a team

546
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: of a TL going six and ten and seven and nine. Like.

547
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they'd be unsuccessful to me. It's just

548
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: like a team to watch and whatever. They don't have

549
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: to be the greatest team in the world. Let's get

550
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: it right, Let's get it. Would be pretty incredible with

551
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: the Titans became the team of a t L. It's

552
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: a good storyline for you after they were the Titoons

553
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, very true. All right, This is it, guys,

554
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: This is it Part three of three, the final time

555
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Fantasy before the season, the Fantasy Extravaganza.

556
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: Very regal, and for a reason, because this is a

557
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: special conversation between two icons, icons of the industry. Basically,

558
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: not only did Greg and West both uh you know,

559
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: make their bones over at Roadal World. I think Greg

560
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: built the site HTML wise from the ground up, brick

561
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: by brick, virtual brick here. He put on one of

562
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: those like virtual headsets from the movie Disclosure with Bemmi

563
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Moore and Michael Douglas and built that website. So that's great. Uh,

564
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Mark is also here is he? That's so basically gonna

565
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: get a lot of hot takes from him. The NFL

566
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: media Fantasy outsider Mark Sessler actually out of the office today,

567
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: of course, So I will you know, I'm just a

568
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: regular Joe. I'm just a guy in the presence of greatness.

569
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: Uh So I will chip in with some thoughts because

570
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: I've been playing fantasy for like twenty years, won like

571
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: one or two leagues, so that makes me somewhat uh

572
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: qualified on some level. Whatever, get my back and before

573
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,239
Speaker 1: we get the quarterbacks, I do. I've been working all

574
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: weeks trying to get like a catchphrase, because, like I said,

575
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: you need something that separates you from the rest. Yeah,

576
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: so just a couple more. I know you guys, I

577
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: had some dad stuff that you guys didn't connect as well.

578
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: So here we go, three more, Um, just do it.

579
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: I think that's already been taken. But it's taken, all right?

580
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: Where's the beef the Fantasy Extravaganza, bud Light I said,

581
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see I'm losing. I'm like, uh my confidence

582
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: is what happened. I think you have a better chance

583
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: of getting winning to catch on than to have those

584
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: taglines catch all right, So I'm going in the wrong direction.

585
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: So it's a good thing. It's a it's over now,

586
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: uh in terms of the slogan. So let's get into

587
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: it now. The quarterbacks, uh, and every league, when you

588
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: win a league, you need a quarterback who's doing damage.

589
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: So what we'll do is, um, we'll start out with

590
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: overvalued quarterbacks in this draft. These are guys that you

591
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: wanna It would be nice to have him on your roster, obviously,

592
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: but do not reach for them by any means. And

593
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: we'll start with you, Greg Rosenthal. Well, I'm gonna start

594
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: with the guy who's our producer TDS favorite player in

595
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: the NFL throws a sexy deep ball, not a sexy

596
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: fantasy pick, TV Russell Wilson. Hey, he's overrated in life,

597
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: he's overrated in general. He's really not overrated as an

598
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. But there's no need to take him in

599
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: the third round when guys like Drew Brees and Matthew

600
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Stafford and Matt Ryan and Tony Romo are getting taken

601
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: five or six rounds later. I just don't think there's

602
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: that big of a gap between Russell Wilson and the

603
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: rest of the QB one group. And if you look

604
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: at where they're getting taken. You could take a great

605
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: quarterback in round six or seven, and so that's what

606
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: I would do. I was prepared to kill you for this,

607
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: but you made such excellent points to oh yes, because

608
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: he does get a lot of rushing yards and rushing tds,

609
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: don't you that'll that will diminish a little bit over

610
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit, but I think he'll make up

611
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: for it by the fact that last year he had

612
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the worst collection of red zone weapons in the league,

613
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: and this year he's got Jimmy Graham, he's got Chris

614
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: Matthews emerging as a red zone guy. I think they're

615
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna have a jumbo package. He's gonna throw more touchdowns.

616
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: So but I I totally agree that why take him

617
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: in the third round when you can get a good

618
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: quarterback later. Let me play devil's advocate to your point,

619
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: greg Um, And if you you speak against Russell Wilson,

620
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: you are the devil. Which is when you look at

621
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: what Russell Wilson has done, I guess from a passing

622
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: in yardage and touchdown standpoint, I wouldn't be surprised that

623
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to Tom Brady pre two thousand

624
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: and six. What if Jimmy Graham is is his version

625
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson's version of Randy Moss, and it turns

626
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson into a statistical dynamo. Is that a crazy thought? Yes,

627
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: because maybe he's Randy Moss and he's first of all,

628
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: he's not Randy Moss. He he gets like a thousand

629
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: yards Jimmy Graham in a good year yards. There's no

630
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: wet Swelker there, you know, there's there is Jermaine Curse

631
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: and Doug Baldwin and a team that wants to run

632
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: the football and has the greatest defense we've seen in

633
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: the last five years, and they just that's not their

634
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: philosophy to throw the ball around like that. So we

635
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: thought he would take a huge leap passing last year.

636
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: It didn't really happen. Yeah, and Brady and Moss weren't

637
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: breaking records when Corey Dillon was still one of the

638
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: best backs in the league and rushing for six hundred

639
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: and something undred yards like Marshawn Lynch does. So I

640
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: think philosophically that wouldn't happen. Surprised we haven't heard anything

641
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: from TV yet, who obviously has an affair going on

642
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. I don't, I would say, though I

643
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: haven't been aboard the whole Sierra relationship. They've got to

644
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: think about how that could impact this fancy before him,

645
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: and he's trying too hard to be delicious. Now, maybe

646
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: he tried to do too much on the football field

647
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: and that could be good for the fantasy numbers. But

648
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: has anybody noticed Tt has never worn a hat before?

649
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: And then we go live on NFL now and he's

650
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: got it like pulled down low, trying to look like

651
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: usher or something. I thought he was just trolling me,

652
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: but now I just realized he's trying to be cool.

653
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: Look how low that well, you don't even need trying

654
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: to TD. Trying to be cool just goes unsaid. That's

655
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: pretty much that's what he's trying to look at Literally

656
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: every photo on his Facebook page, it's always he's always

657
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: like me and mugging for the camera and the ladies

658
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: just like, hey, you got I'm not a smiling kind

659
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: of guy. I'm just I don't you know, I'm not Dan.

660
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: I don't have that, you know, his lovely blue eyes,

661
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, trying to change the subject. Although you're correct,

662
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: class of nine in high school and nice size the

663
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: old zeuser. Uh, West, you're overvalued QB. Dan still has

664
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: that like frame then, as I do have it pro

665
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: over high school, I don't feel like we should not

666
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: frush over that. Well, it is what it is. I

667
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: I want it, and I took home the title and

668
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: it didn't lead to me having a fun time a

669
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: prom night. Didn't have much luck in high school with women.

670
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: So what does it mean? Didn't help your confidence? Maybe

671
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: it just you would think that it would have maybe

672
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: lad to women be like, oh, I'm going to see

673
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: Dan in a different light. It wasn't until you started

674
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: acting more confidently that they confidence. Listen any any young

675
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: men out there that are worried they don't haven't gotten

676
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: with a lot of girls, or doesn't see my girls

677
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: notice them. It's all about confidence. You gotta believe in

678
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: yourself and that and and t D. We got to

679
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: t V fakes it pretty well. T is great at

680
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: faking it. And TD does well with women. Guys talking

681
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: about what West overvalued quarterback a guy being drafted around

682
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,439
Speaker 1: the same place as Russell Wilson, Peyton Manning. You guys

683
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: aren't drafting like two thousand thirteen. Peyton Manning. Here, you're

684
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: drafting a guy who couldn't throw at the end of

685
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: last year, which could be a problem again this year

686
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: when your Fantasy Championship is going on in December with

687
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: strong wins with elements Peyton Manning, can you rely on him?

688
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Will he be healthy all year? Those are questions, not

689
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: to mention the fact that he's going from a very

690
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: past happy offense to Gary Kubias run oriented scheme and

691
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: offense he's never played in before. We have no idea

692
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: how that will happen, but his past attemp are going

693
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: to go down. Well, you said it that the change

694
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: in the offense is always going to be a concern

695
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: for any quarterback, much less one at his age. And

696
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons I don't like Russell Wilson.

697
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: His career high in attempts is four hundred and fifty.

698
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: One of the reasons that Peyton Manning is so great

699
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: year after year in Fantasy is he throws six fifty

700
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: seven hundred passes. I don't think that's gonna happen again

701
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: this year. Maybe that's gonna help him long term, but

702
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that will help is to West's point.

703
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: By the way, the last four games of the season.

704
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of teams don't or leagues don't

705
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: play Week seventeen in fantasy, but the last four games

706
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: regular season, three home games at Denver when it's gonna

707
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: be freezing in windy and at Pittsburgh in Week fifteen,

708
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: which would be the semifinals in many leagues. I wouldn't

709
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: draft Peyton Manning in any round. That's just me. But

710
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're thinking about taking Peyton Manning

711
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: a third or fourth rate, it's saying the Broncos had

712
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: the greatest offense in end of all history a couple

713
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: of years ago, and yeah, yeah, But the group think

714
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: in one quarterback league where every and is like, oh,

715
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's done, he's shot, and he's what if he's

716
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: sitting there in the sixth round. I have a philosophy

717
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: that if I don't like a guy, I'm just not

718
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: taking him. Philosophy teaser right. There no connection to the

719
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: theology podcast, which will get to in a few weeks time.

720
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Let's go with undervalued quarterback. Now we'll start with you, Greg.

721
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with a guy who last year is

722
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: getting taken right around the same time as Russell Wilson

723
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. You want to take a guy who's shown

724
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: he can do it in fantasy at a high level

725
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: before that gets hear the Russian yards, the free cheap

726
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: fantasy points, and he's getting taken as a mid level backup.

727
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: He's got huge upside, big time ceiling for a player

728
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: getting taken in the eleven to the twelfth round. I mean,

729
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: sign me up for some Colin Kaepernick. What are you

730
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: talking about? What do you mean? This guy was getting

731
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: sacked every other time he dropped back last year. He

732
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: loses his Pro Bowl guard, his right tackle, hires. Who's

733
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: who's playing offensive line for this guy? Hey? You know

734
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: who else thinks all that? All the lemons out there

735
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: in fantasy draft, And let's why he's getting taken. So like,

736
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: this guy has running ability out there, He's going to

737
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: have held Russell Wilson's running ability against him, And now

738
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: you're sighting it. I'm just saying they're a similar type

739
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: of players. Washington, Well, it also could be your Uh,

740
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: he's got about the same profile as Wilson, but I

741
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: think he'll throw more passes than Wilson because he's gonna

742
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: need to because he's gonna happen to lesser talent. You

743
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: can't deny that he has a lot of talent in

744
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: that arm and those legs and everything. He has a

745
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: lot of strength in that arm. But I don't know

746
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: if he has a lot of talent because he has

747
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: no touch. Take guys coming off of bad years that

748
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: have done it before. I mean he to me, he

749
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: has a very high ceiling in fantasy. He has a

750
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: similar ceiling to Cam Newton and Russell Wilson, who are

751
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: getting taken way I have. I'm going to throw something

752
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: out here in support of Greg's point. I have a

753
00:37:50,239 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: bit of a sessler mm hmm that Berna Davis is

754
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna have a nice bounce back season like that. I

755
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: think he's gonna come back refocused. He's gonna do some

756
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: things and that's gonna help Colin Kaepernick. Uh immeasurably. I

757
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: can buy that. It's got some weapons Bolden Davis hide

758
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: Tory Smith. I mean it's not the worst Kaepernick like

759
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: throwing ten feet over Tory Smith's head every all season

760
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: long on a running loop. They finally found a fast

761
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: receiver that can go. Yeah, they're still chugging down the field.

762
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: You throw it deep, he can't catch up. Crap, crap,

763
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: you can't catch up. That. By the way, that that

764
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: Madden NFL sixteen YouTube video trailer that was released on

765
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: Friday is completely insane. You can check it out on

766
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL blog and did a quick post

767
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: about it and where Colin Kaepernick plays al Pacino from

768
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Ascent of a Woman. Uh, it's just insane. I don't

769
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: even I don't even know if I liked it or

770
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: if I thought it was funny other than Julio Jones

771
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: karate chopping someone literally thirty eight times. They should stick

772
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Tory Smith in the front row of the stands so

773
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: he can catch Kaepernick's pass. Undervalued quarterback Chris Wesley Eli Manning.

774
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Ah wow, how do you know that this is Fanning

775
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: Manning for overvalued under back? You know this is free

776
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: money when I'm actually sticking up for Eli Manning. Yeah,

777
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna listen to. The Giants average thirty points

778
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: a game in the last six weeks last season. When

779
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham emerged, they had Reuben Randall. They pick up

780
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: shame Vereen, who's one of the best receiving backs in

781
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. Victor Cruz is back. He's a wild card.

782
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 1: Maybe he's good, maybe he's not. But they're averaging thirty

783
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: points a game without him. I'm taking guys this year

784
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: in stacked offenses, and the Giants are one of them.

785
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. I mean, I'm

786
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: not even mad. That's just amazing. I can't standing up

787
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: for Eli Manning. Greg thinks Eli Manning's do for the

788
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: wheelchair this season, powered by Odell Beckham. His schedule last

789
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: year where he racked up a lot of those big

790
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: numbers were against the worst teams in the league. I

791
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: don't know if you can count on that again. Although

792
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: the end so against better teams will have to pass more. No,

793
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: he'll just be mediocre Eli Manning like he always. I mean,

794
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: if you want to if you want to draft the

795
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: he's what the thirteenth or fourteenth average draft. I mean,

796
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: if you want to get a value, he draft him

797
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: thirteenth and he comes in tenth. That's what I'm saying

798
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: is Dan made the wrong comparison. You want to talk

799
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: about Randy Moss making Tom Brady, that's Odell Beckham and

800
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. You've got the best wide receiver in the

801
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: league in Odell Beckham. He's unstoppable. Literally, whatever happened to

802
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: high ceiling guys not taking What I'm saying is the

803
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: Elion Manning is a high ceiling guy. He's gonna throw

804
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdowns this year because he got Odell Beckham.

805
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, are you aware his full name

806
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: is Elisha. I'm not saying, draft Eli Manning like in

807
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: the fifth round. But while all these other guys are

808
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: drafting Peyton in the fourth hold off and draft Eli

809
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: in like the ninth round. I'm looking at his career

810
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: where he finished among quarterbacks despite never missing a game,

811
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: which is you know, an asset he's he's never make.

812
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: Somehow is going to use that against him. He's never

813
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: finished the top five ones. Don't get my lunch. Eli

814
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: finishes with more more Fantasy points in Payton this year.

815
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Make sure we know that for tier

816
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: or four tier that and by the way, West, every

817
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: great quarterback ever has had a great weapon around him

818
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: to make him better. Just basically Randy Moss did that

819
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: with every quarterback he ever played for, though I mean

820
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't really for most of his cares. You

821
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: know what. The Tom Brady stuff he did become legendary

822
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: as a producer until Randy Moss entered the three Super bowls. Man,

823
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: Eli man He's won super bowls, super Bowls. Okay, says

824
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: the Patriots man on the throne of sleeves. All right,

825
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: let's go through some more guys. I'll start out with

826
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: us and Ryan Tannehill got a big, fat contract that

827
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: pays him like a superstar. Overvalued or undervalued. He's overvalued.

828
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: He's being drafted ahead of Eli Manning. He's been drafted

829
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: ahead of Matthew Stafford. These guys who are gonna be

830
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: top five offenses, I believe, the Lions and the Giants.

831
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: Tannehill still Ryan Tannehill. I mean, I don't know if

832
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: he's good yet. I just don't know if he's good.

833
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: You don't draft him as a QB one when don't

834
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: know if he's good. Before the show, I said, properly

835
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: valued West, You've swayed me. He is a little too high.

836
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: You know. One of the reasons is he plays in

837
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: the a f C East, where he's gonna have to

838
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: go against the Bills and the Jets four times. I

839
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: don't think that helps. I don't think he's vastly overrated,

840
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: but he's a little too high. Alright, how about Sam Bradford,

841
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: Greg he's undervalued. You know. One of my philosophies, I'm

842
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: gonna get to, you know, shoot shoot for the moon.

843
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: And I think Sam Bradford could have a monster season.

844
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: He could also get hurt, but it's easy to replace quarterbacks.

845
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: To take him as your backup and you might get

846
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: a top five, top ten guy. I totally agree that

847
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: you shoot for the moon. Love that philosophy. I think

848
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: he's exactly He's being drafted exactly where he should basically

849
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: after all the good quarterbacks who are reliable. He's being

850
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: drafted right after Matthew Stafford and Philip Rivers. Rivers is

851
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: a good, reliable quarterback. Sam Bradford should be the best

852
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: of all the flyers, but he's going in like the

853
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: eleven twelfth round, like deep. I mean, I'd rather spend

854
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: two picks on a quarterback in the seventh, in the

855
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: ninth or tenth, like get both of them, get a

856
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: good backup like Bradford, and if you and then in

857
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: the back of your draft, maybe you grab Mark Sanchez.

858
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. With your last pick in

859
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: the draft, take Mark Sanchez because if he starts, he's

860
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: a QB one. Alright, Matt Ryan, Chris Westling, we know.

861
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: I know where um Mr Rosenthal will go with us.

862
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: He loves his boy Matt Ryan. But what about you,

863
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: slightly undervalued? I I think he could throw for five

864
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: thousand yards and over thirty TVs with Kyle Shanahan. And

865
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: I think Julio Jones is just gonna go nuts this year,

866
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: so I like, I don't think they have a strong

867
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: running game either. Are gonna have to pass a lot.

868
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: They have a bad defense. I think Matt Ryan posts

869
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: some numbers this year. Our friend Evan Silva thinks he's

870
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: very overrated. I don't get that because he hasn't really

871
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: done it numbers wise a lot. But I think this

872
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: would be the year that he does. M We should

873
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: get Evan Silva on the show. We should. Wow, what

874
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity during Fantasy Extravaganza week. You know you

875
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: can rot a girl rotal world. Guys gotta look out

876
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: for each other. Well, I have him on. There'll be

877
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: plenty of chances to have Evan Silva, and he can

878
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: talk about anything. Really. Yeah. I've always said nobody writing

879
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: about football knows as much in in as many different

880
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: areas as even Silver a renaissance matter. If he can

881
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: do your draft, he can do your fantasy. He can

882
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: do your laundry, game tape and your laundry. I won't

883
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: ask him to do that. All right, speed round time.

884
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: Let's go through four more qbs. Let's start with a

885
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: little Teddy Bridge wear a one point each guy's keep

886
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: it tight. Undervalued. I love him as a quarterback, but

887
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: not as a fantasy guy. He's overvalued. That's what That's

888
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: what I meant, overvalued, exact same reason they're going to

889
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to Adrian Peterson as their offense

890
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: this year. How about Philip Rivers? Undervalued? I think that

891
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: often is gonna be a lot better this year. Got

892
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson, you gotta improve Keenan Allen. You've got a

893
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: rookie who stutter steps every time he approaches the line.

894
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: Get guaranteed for four thousand yards. Why do we think

895
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: that Keenan Ellen's improved? Well, just from what I've listen

896
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: to the Move the Sticks podcast, and he said that

897
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen looks fantasic. What is that? Way? You're not

898
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: even bring up something that I have heard of? How

899
00:44:53,800 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: about Andy Dalton? West? Ye boy? Way undervalue this? S undervalue?

900
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: This is a ridiculous thing. But I just realized what

901
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: West is doing. He's covering all his bases. Here's these

902
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: guys are in loaded offenses. Who's got better weapons than

903
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton? He had thirty three touchdowns and forty yards

904
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: two years ago. He's not a good NFL quarterback, but

905
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: he can be a good Here's what he is. Don't

906
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: care valued Sandy Dalton. Finally, Jamis Winston, the rookie number

907
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: one pick in Tampa more just about more over value

908
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: than anybody on this list. I mean, why are you

909
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: taking him ahead of guys like Andy Dalton, who has

910
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: had a thirty three touchdown season. Jamis Winston's gonna have

911
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: a horrible offensive line. Put up some numbers though, why

912
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. That's the speed round. Guys.

913
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: Good work. Anybody's listening. If you mess up your quarterback pick, now,

914
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: you're an idiot because we gave you everything, and why

915
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: can't you just listen to us and act as you're told.

916
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I apologize

917
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: to everyone, just I don't know what that was a big,

918
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: big where West is honking for Eli Manning and Andy Daltons.

919
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's finish now. We'll wrap up the

920
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: fantasy extravaganza with our draft philosophies and we'll give three each. Uh,

921
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you know, just get him out nice and tight. Let

922
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: us know something to go through. Uh keep in mind,

923
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: and draft day will start with you. Greg Rosenthal. All right,

924
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 1: you gotta start this year by taking your wide receivers early.

925
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: I just think that they're much safer bets in the

926
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: first three, four or five rounds. Just keep taking wide

927
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: receivers early. Get that apostrophe off the screen. Oh my gosh.

928
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: My other my second point draft for upside in high ceilings,

929
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: especially late in the draft. Always take a chance. Take

930
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: boom er bus guys. Get as many booms as you can.

931
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: Don't pick safe guys. And then my other thing, pick

932
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: guys that have done it before, like Colin Kaepernick coming

933
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: off bad years. It's a stock market. Pick the guys

934
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: who struggled a little bit last year, like Mike Wallace,

935
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: who have done it before. I'm gonna have a fourth

936
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: tip to Dan, fill out your lineup before the games

937
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: start on Sunday. That's always a problem for you. I'm

938
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: just I'm serious. That's always proud. You always shop, you like,

939
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: oh I forgot to change my lineup. Okay, thank you

940
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: very much. Up next, am I doing mind? Or is

941
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: it West? Alright? West? Your draft philosophies, you'll have all these.

942
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: You know that there's no such thing as an expert

943
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: in fantasy football, but you'll have always so called experts

944
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: and people like Greg Rosenthal telling you which round to

945
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: draft a certain position. Don't pay them any attention at all.

946
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: Just keep drafting the best player in every round. There'll

947
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 1: be a name of jumps off your cheat sheet. Draft

948
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: that guy who jumps off your cheat sheet. Don't do

949
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: this zero running back strategy or you can't take a

950
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: quarterback or have a strategy. Don't have a strategy other

951
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: than drafting the best player. I don't know why. That's

952
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: a confused point. Second thing, don't don't draft a talent

953
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: that you can get off the waiver wire, a guy

954
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: whose talent level is that low, Like, don't draft a

955
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Three, just don't even draft them. You get

956
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: draft a bunch of flyers, lighting or draft who are

957
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: talented and have a has to be good. He could

958
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: pick up a waiver wire guy off the for a

959
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver three every week of the year. Don't draft

960
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Joke Bell, He's not that talented. Yeah, draft a Mirp

961
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: Doll is a special talent. Don't draft an ordinary guy

962
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: like Joke Bell. Don't you have Danny Woodhead just because

963
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: he catches sixty passes and gets like eight yards On

964
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: your third point, this is a hobby. Don't get in

965
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: it to make money play the stock market. If you

966
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: want to make money, have fun. Follow your gut feelings.

967
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: Your gut feelings are there for a reason. Because you're

968
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: well read, you're knowledgeable. You watch film, you listen to

969
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: this podcast, you develop a gut feeling. Trust your gut.

970
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: If you've got a Monday night football decision, play the

971
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: guy you want to watch. Don't draft your stable of boys,

972
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: draft your own in your bedroom. And finally, the old

973
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Zeuser's draft philosophies, and I'll start with do not overload

974
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: or this maybe it stands in contrast with you just

975
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: said West. Don't overlord or reach from players from your

976
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: own favorite team. You can to me, there's too much

977
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: riding on it. Then if you if you're in my case,

978
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: I'll say Brandon Marshall rasor Marshall stinks it out, then

979
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: not only is my fantasy team doomed, so is my

980
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: favorite team. So just keep them separate. Number two, if

981
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: you're the first to take a defense in your fantasy draft,

982
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: stop you messed up, you blew it. Let somebody else

983
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: do it, and let somebody else take that defense. And

984
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: then because whatever the the guy that inevitably takes the

985
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: defense in the seventh round or something, he always regrets it.

986
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: And finally, don't get bombed. A lot of people have

987
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: these drafts where they all get together, they get turned up,

988
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, what happens halfway through

989
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: the draft or making mistakes they're laughing at off like, oh,

990
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know who this guy was. That guy

991
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: never wins the league. So if you're gonna drink and

992
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: and and you you know, get that b A C up,

993
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: then wait until afterwards and down. Yeah exactly. So you're

994
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: trying to tell people to turn down the drinks und

995
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: you can only get this advice from Dan Handas. But

996
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: we still got a little more advice. A little surprise.

997
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna get some advice from our producer. T D.

998
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: You've got a philosophy. I haven't playing Fantacy for three

999
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: years one two chapter, three years and Fantasy Live and

1000
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: pass you on the head. My my philosophy is, first stuff,

1001
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: you gotta go young to look for young quarterback. Rookie

1002
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks their favorite targets. That's a safe blanket. That is ridiculous,

1003
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: is not young? Can I go on my list? Please?

1004
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: Number two be your only man man. Don't solict the

1005
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: fancy advice, listen to anything that was said. Just go

1006
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: with your got like West was saying, when you win,

1007
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: you want to have that that that pride that you

1008
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: did on your own. And lastly, it's a passing league

1009
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: playing the PPR league, Guys, all that other stuff forget.

1010
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: It's playing the PPR. You want to give points for

1011
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: past attempts to hey, might as well. You don't get

1012
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: points for catching a pass if you have another. Don't

1013
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: follow young Kobe's drafting. Yeah everything, guys do the opposite.

1014
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: We're kidding t D. They were good except for the

1015
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: first one. Come on, I'm just saying, young quarter that's

1016
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: like the worst advice tight ends. Yeah, that's terrible. You've

1017
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: only been in three leagues, two championships with the Fantasy

1018
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: Live producers, you can't argue at that one. Oh, speaking

1019
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: of Fantasy Live, I want to make sure you get

1020
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: a plug in there. We've been talking about Fantasy this

1021
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: whole time and the NFL Fantasy Live. Those guys do

1022
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: really good work at Michael Fabiano, Marcus Grant, Alex kelhar

1023
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: Adam Rank, Matt money Smith, all those guys do good work.

1024
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: They do a podcasts three times a week, and they

1025
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: also have the NFL Live TV show on the network, Uh,

1026
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live, and check that out if you're if you're

1027
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: a real nerd, you'll enjoy it because it's a lot

1028
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: of up for our draft guide we've got online, you know,

1029
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: leagues on NFL dot com. I mean, you know what

1030
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: else you can do. You can subscribe to the Around

1031
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. While you're there looking at the Fantasy Podcast,

1032
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: leave us comments. How about that? That's good? Greg, So

1033
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: that's it. West is in love. Craig's fired up. I'm

1034
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: just you know, man in the ship hopefully markets out

1035
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: of his ticket. We'll know more about that on Monday.

1036
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, uh too and watching. The Around

1037
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast will be back next week with three

1038
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: more shows and again when West's toasters send. If you

1039
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: want to be interested, hit up at Producer t D

1040
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: and we'll get you part of the screening process, so

1041
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: stay tuned for that. This is Dan Hansas signing off

1042
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: for the Mailman, Chris Westling, the Boss, Rick Rosenthal t D,

1043
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Behind the Glass and everybody else until next week. M