Speaker 1: Really listens a mission this day and age Kelly and
Speaker 1: Tilma and returning the page. We're talking Family Matters about
Speaker 1: those times? Ellen.
Speaker 2: What happened between.
Speaker 1: The line with Kelly and me.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the fam, Elisa.
Speaker 3: Kelly, welcome to the family. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, y'all.
Speaker 2: Welcome, welcome, welcome. I'm Kelly and I'm Telma.
Speaker 4: And in the nineties we both start in the sitcom
Speaker 4: Family Matters.
Speaker 2: Now for today, we rewatched season one, episode ten, False Arrest,
Speaker 2: where Carl has an altercation with a famous TV dad.
Speaker 2: Pretty meta, huh A little bit. But before we get
Speaker 2: into that episode, what's up about you, Telma girl? I
Speaker 2: just need to ask you something.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I know you have a family, so that means you
Speaker 3: have a husband and you have a son. Yep, do
Speaker 3: they put the toilet seat down? Is there something I
Speaker 3: need to go back and rework with my son to
Speaker 3: get him to see that this is not okay.
Speaker 2: I mean he comes over to my house.
Speaker 3: By the time he leaves, every toilet seat in the
Speaker 3: house is up, even the one in the bathroom he
Speaker 3: didn't go in, So obviously he has some kind of power.
Speaker 4: Well, I was having this problem at my house too.
Speaker 4: I found out that you're pretty much shaped between the
Speaker 4: ages of eighteen months and three years old. Oh did
Speaker 4: so after three years they don't really evolve past that.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So so I can just forget and fall in.
Speaker 2: It's what you're.
Speaker 4: Saying pretty much. Hate to be the one to break
Speaker 4: it all.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, as long as I know that, I know
Speaker 2: how to progress. Now, what's up with you? Girl? What's
Speaker 2: been going on this week? What's up with me? Is?
Speaker 2: I thought you loved me.
Speaker 4: As we've been watching the show, I've noticed that, at
Speaker 4: least when I was younger, it looked like I had
Speaker 4: been chewing on a stick of dynamite. My teeth were.
Speaker 2: All over the place.
Speaker 3: And you're blaming that on me somehow. I mean, you
Speaker 3: had a mother and a father, did you not, And
Speaker 3: they were in town at that time.
Speaker 4: But you're fabulous and you should have told me you
Speaker 4: need to go see orthodonist.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 3: I have to show you my old teeth. I had
Speaker 3: bucky beavers for days. They used to sing the you're
Speaker 3: probably too young to remember this, but the bush up
Speaker 3: brush a knew a panitude, I mean, because he was like,
Speaker 3: those were my teeth. Okay, so these you can have
Speaker 3: perfect teeth. You're in Hollywood, honey. But believe me, I
Speaker 3: walked around all through Tony, Orlando and Dawn with my
Speaker 3: Bucky Beavers just chattering away, and nobody said a thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's so funny. Watching back, it's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, who knew a.
Speaker 3: Lot of times you look like you just got your
Speaker 3: finger out of an electrical socket too. That ponytail be
Speaker 3: sticking straight out. I don't know how it had a
Speaker 3: life of its own, exactly, ponytail whatever, we were kind
Speaker 3: of pitiful. Let's talk about this episode, okay. Now, today's
Speaker 3: episode is called False Arrest. As I said before, it
Speaker 3: was written by Barry Gold and directed by Peter Baldwin.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: It aired on December first, nineteen eighty nine. Hey, the
Speaker 3: number one song on the R and B charts was
Speaker 3: still Don't take It personal body, Jermaine Jackson. They were
Speaker 3: working it out.
Speaker 4: Oh so the Jackson's they just ruled the charts by
Speaker 4: the hcause Janet Jackson was also still at the top
Speaker 4: of the charts, actually number one with Rid the Nation
Speaker 4: eighteen fourteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were really dominating the charts, you know, just
Speaker 3: a little Jackson story. They were a big part of
Speaker 3: my life, but really a big part of my son's life,
Speaker 3: and because we were all working and popular at the
Speaker 3: same time, he got a chance to meet him. Michael
Speaker 3: came to our dressing room to meet Gerald at the
Speaker 3: first AMA Awards and got to sit with him when
Speaker 3: we went to get our Best Pop Vocal and I
Speaker 3: think Best Pop Group of the Year awards. He sat
Speaker 3: with Michael during that time. When we would go to
Speaker 3: Detroit if they were there, I would always send a
Speaker 3: message backstage and they would send somebody out to come
Speaker 3: get it so we could go backstage and hang out.
Speaker 2: I've hung out at the house and I played Janet's Mom,
Speaker 2: so I feel very well rounded in the Jackson family.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 3: One of my best friends grew up with them. She
Speaker 3: was actually with them when nine to eleven happened. Really
Speaker 3: in New York. Michael had done a show there at
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden. I was supposed to go, but I
Speaker 3: was mad because I didn't get a check that I wanted,
Speaker 3: so I didn't go. You know, you don't want to
Speaker 3: go to New York with no money, so I didn't go.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were there when it happened and actually
Speaker 3: had to take buses back to Los Angeles. Was crazy
Speaker 3: because I thought I was seeing things when I turned
Speaker 3: on the TV that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, huh. You don't really have the greatest stories ever,
Speaker 2: just obtuso. They just come up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they were a big part of our lives. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what a great time to be alive too. Like it
Speaker 3: was girls who nothing like. I mean, there was just
Speaker 3: so much fun to be had. And I'm not saying
Speaker 3: stuff is not enjoyable now in the shows and all
Speaker 3: of that, but it just seemed like because there were
Speaker 3: less shows, every was more special, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying That we didn't have like an awards show every
Speaker 3: month it was a big deal. So each time we
Speaker 3: would see them in whatever circumstance it was, it was
Speaker 3: always fun and everybody was just really loose and friendly.
Speaker 3: There wasn't as much paparazzi and all that going on. Then, nice,
Speaker 3: how'd you like the Arkle Open?
Speaker 4: It's so weird, right, but this is one of the
Speaker 4: other shows where they just put him in to kind
Speaker 4: of indoctrinate him into the show before he was actually
Speaker 4: a real character. So it really didn't have anything to
Speaker 4: do with the episode.
Speaker 3: Right, well, because he wasn't around them. But it's so
Speaker 3: funny that it assumes that everybody knows the backstory right
Speaker 3: when it comes in, because you know, like Eddie saying,
Speaker 3: you said I couldn't take him upstairs.
Speaker 2: Well, we don't know any of that.
Speaker 3: But it's just another episode that starts off with that
Speaker 3: cold open. But we're only a few episodes away from
Speaker 3: having the actual Arkle on the show. I mean his
Speaker 3: first show, which I believe is maybe show twelve, were
Speaker 3: somewhere around there, right, So I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: And this show, Eddie is training Steve in the living room. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that boy is really got a ways to go.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. I can't believe how much smaller he
Speaker 4: was than everybody else in the beginning.
Speaker 3: He was so skinny too, I mean he was so little, little,
Speaker 3: and you forget how young he was when he came
Speaker 3: on the show, right.
Speaker 4: Okay, So then at the beginning of the episode, we
Speaker 4: see the family gathered around the TV watching their favorite
Speaker 4: TV show, The Buddy gibbrid Show. Yes, and it was
Speaker 4: a family sitcom about a black man who attompted to
Speaker 4: white orphan boys.
Speaker 3: Now could or could that be somewhat of a takeoff
Speaker 3: on different strokes except a switch n no, no, not
Speaker 3: nothing the White Man, Oh Okay to ricket Wells songs.
Speaker 2: We know. I just thought it kind of reminded me
Speaker 2: of that. But now he's America's favorite dad, which makes
Speaker 2: Carl a little insecure. That's a bit of course. It
Speaker 2: doesn't help them when he comes in and wants to
Speaker 2: tell us about his day. We just don't have any
Speaker 2: time for him at all.
Speaker 3: And even when he goes into the kitchen to try
Speaker 3: to talk to his sister in law and his wife,
Speaker 3: he loses us to Buddy Rich as well. We're just
Speaker 3: not about Carl when Buddy Rich is in the house.
Speaker 4: But I think it's really also funny how meta the
Speaker 4: show was. I mean, it really was a commentary on
Speaker 4: our own show, Like really was that sassy music?
Speaker 2: And oh dad? Right? And let me say I love
Speaker 2: now you know.
Speaker 3: Ron Glass was our guest for this, right, and he's
Speaker 3: pretty up aty anyway, But I love the way Palmer
Speaker 3: would dressed him on the show.
Speaker 2: It was perfection.
Speaker 4: It was because he dressed him like he dressed himself.
Speaker 4: Actually kind of Yeah, Palmer was like the sheikhiest man
Speaker 4: any of us have ever.
Speaker 3: Witnessed he was, And I am proud to say that
Speaker 3: he dressed me off the show as well. He was
Speaker 3: actually our dresser on Give Me a Break as well,
Speaker 3: that's where I met him. But yeah, he dressed Ron
Speaker 3: so preppy and so so white.
Speaker 2: I loved it. You know, the shoes, the saddle shoes
Speaker 2: and the socks. And people don't know.
Speaker 4: This, but Palmer was really the person who came up
Speaker 4: with the way that Eerkle dressed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he'd put that whole thing.
Speaker 4: Together, stenders, the saddle shoes.
Speaker 3: But I loved the way he looked and Ron of
Speaker 3: course and carry off that uppity looked at all times.
Speaker 3: He was wonderful in the role. But back to Mother Winslow.
Speaker 3: She did not like the fact that Kyle was interrupting
Speaker 3: herd that she didn't care what was going on, and
Speaker 3: she couldn't go back and watch it. He made her
Speaker 3: miss a big joke joke as she was tipped.
Speaker 4: Well, this was before VCRs and that, so you couldn't
Speaker 4: just go back and rewind it and look at the
Speaker 4: moment again. You had to enjoy it while it was
Speaker 4: grand opening, grand clothes. Never heard it put like that,
Speaker 4: but okay, one and done, so you better get well
Speaker 4: you had to wait till rerun exactly until we got
Speaker 4: our residuous.
Speaker 2: That part.
Speaker 4: So did you notice at the end credits of The
Speaker 4: Buddy Goodrich Show it actually four shattles an industry standard
Speaker 4: now where the main star is also an executive producer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely more of a thing now where the
Speaker 3: actors are executive producing or producing shows that they're involved
Speaker 3: with as well as acting and them. But it definitely
Speaker 3: was not the deal then. But he was a star, ruh.
Speaker 3: He was a big old shiny star and he could
Speaker 3: do all of that stuff. And I just love the
Speaker 3: scenes that he and Carl had at the production absolutely
Speaker 3: when he went down.
Speaker 2: To see if he could get tickets for us for
Speaker 2: the show, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, get the tickets for the woman show. And he
Speaker 4: notices Buddy's cars parked in a handicapped spot, so he
Speaker 4: tries to tell Buddy to move the car. But when
Speaker 4: he meets Buddy inside the theater, he's like a real diva.
Speaker 2: Almost like real life. Now.
Speaker 3: Buddy is played brilliantly, as I said before, by Ron Glass,
Speaker 3: an actor and director known for shows like Barney Miller
Speaker 3: and Firefly and movies like Serenity, among about a million
Speaker 3: other things. But I worked with him on a very
Speaker 3: short lived remake of The Odd Couple called The New
Speaker 3: Odd Couple, starring Ron Glass as Felix Unger Perfect and
Speaker 3: Demon Wilson of Sanford and Son famous Oscar Madison. It
Speaker 3: only lasted eighteen episodes. I think I did two or three.
Speaker 3: I played Francis, Oscar's ex wife.
Speaker 4: That's such a great show. Didn't they also have a
Speaker 4: female version of The Odd Couple? It never was as good.
Speaker 2: I wonder why the writing maybe? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Basically, I think we were doing shows that had already
Speaker 3: been done. You know, we were just redoing scripts. So
Speaker 3: some things had to be changed, of course, because everything
Speaker 3: wasn't going to work. But I don't think they really
Speaker 3: went at it with new scripts. None of the ones
Speaker 3: I was in were new scripts.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention also that Ron passed away in
Speaker 3: two thousand and sixteen, but he was perfect for this character.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was just Ugh and Carl was Carl.
Speaker 4: They don't really make character actors like that anymore, and
Speaker 4: people want to be a jack of all traits. There
Speaker 4: are people who don't really focus on being one type
Speaker 4: of person that can be really good at one thing anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, he had that genre, that character, that kind
Speaker 3: of character down.
Speaker 2: I mean, you knew to call him for it.
Speaker 3: It was somewhat of an extension of his character because
Speaker 3: he was particular, but he just played it so well
Speaker 3: and played it so funny. I had so much fun
Speaker 3: with him because at one point in the scene later on,
Speaker 3: we become the thing with two heads, and of course
Speaker 3: I had okay it with him, because you don't want
Speaker 3: to be running up on somebody and they turn around
Speaker 3: and you're right in their face. They mad at you
Speaker 3: for the rest of the day. So luckily we have
Speaker 3: worked together before that I could go and ask him
Speaker 3: about it. But back to the episode now, right, Carl
Speaker 3: tries to come in get in an attitude.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know that it's Buddy's car.
Speaker 3: At first, he's told that it's Buddy's car, and since
Speaker 3: nobody wants to help, he decides to knock on the
Speaker 3: door himself. And at first, when Buddy comes out and
Speaker 3: you know, he's very snooty and being Verybuddy good rich,
Speaker 3: Carl tries to find the humor in it. So when
Speaker 3: he's actually insulting him, Carl, you know, tries to laugh
Speaker 3: everything off. Of course, that wears out pretty quickly when
Speaker 3: he sees that this isn't a play for Ron. This
Speaker 3: is all he's going to be. This character is going
Speaker 3: to be like this, and he's going to have to
Speaker 3: deal with it. So that's when we see Carl, because Carl,
Speaker 3: if nothing else, he is a man of integrity.
Speaker 4: He will try and then he will stop. Yes, he's
Speaker 4: just not a man that's good as stunts.
Speaker 3: Because neither one of them, Chyly both need we could
Speaker 3: have been the stand ins for them.
Speaker 4: Do we now have any stunt coortinators at this time
Speaker 4: in the show, because maybe that thing look like a
Speaker 4: What's Why I'm a Rudy ray Moore movie? Ten minutes
Speaker 4: after the punch is like thrown, he goes down the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, well, yeah, maybe we couldn't afford it.
Speaker 3: We didn't have a baby wrangler, so I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe we didn't have a stunt person either.
Speaker 4: We had a baby wrangler.
Speaker 2: It was you. It was your baby, thank you, miss see.
Speaker 3: That's exactly how you were on the shelf, and that's
Speaker 3: why I love you.
Speaker 2: You know, you have that kind of stinky attitude that
Speaker 2: people really.
Speaker 4: Like only say it because it's true. Anyway, Carl arrests
Speaker 4: buddy for assaulting a police officer, and he's in the right,
Speaker 4: correct as we see. Not that it'll matter when it
Speaker 4: gets home, but he's in that at all because the
Speaker 4: family is watching it. When he walks in the door
Speaker 4: only to find out the arresting officer is none other
Speaker 4: than Carl Winslow.
Speaker 3: And Mama Winslow, way to go, Carl. Nobody can say
Speaker 3: it like and that was proof right there. Yeah, those
Speaker 3: one liners down right. I think she made him up herself.
Speaker 3: She was so good at him. She could be disgusted
Speaker 3: better than anyone. But when we realize it's Carl, we
Speaker 3: just are not happy, especially you miss things. He describes
Speaker 3: everything that he went through the man. You know, he's
Speaker 3: trying to be nice. The man pushed him, the man
Speaker 3: punched the man shoved him, and you're like, that's it,
Speaker 3: that's all.
Speaker 2: You should have let him beat your brains out.
Speaker 4: Then if you get the tickets, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 4: Somebody would have said that that is perfect, Okay. It's
Speaker 4: like mother Whislow where She's talking about him getting the tickets,
Speaker 4: and he's saying, I'll try to get them, but I'm
Speaker 4: so busy. He said, it's doing what baby, Well, you know,
Speaker 4: arrested people, stop and robbery said, he said, well what
Speaker 4: about your lunch?
Speaker 2: Baby me? She don't care. What about you give up
Speaker 2: your lunch and go get our tickets?
Speaker 4: Right, And when the only realizes that it's Carl who
Speaker 4: did it, they don't fully believe that Carl is unbiased
Speaker 4: in making the arrests. Yeah, because they think that Carl
Speaker 4: is a little resentful of old buddy.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rachel more or less says it.
Speaker 3: I mean, she talks about how much she loves him
Speaker 3: and all of that, but she also said, bo, you
Speaker 3: know you were a little biased towards him. You may
Speaker 3: have been a little resentful. So they're aware that his
Speaker 3: hurt feelings may have provoked him, Yeah, provoked him a
Speaker 3: little more than normal. He's trying to do something for
Speaker 3: us who loved this man, and this man is disrespecting
Speaker 3: him as a police officer.
Speaker 4: And that's one part I liked. Also is that when
Speaker 4: you're watching the show, this particular show is almost told
Speaker 4: like a farce where the audience knows something about the
Speaker 4: characters that the other characters.
Speaker 2: In the in the show scene. No, right, so you
Speaker 2: know this guy's a jerk.
Speaker 4: Now he come into your house acting like he's mister Wonderful,
Speaker 4: And of course we're ready to go with that, because
Speaker 4: we're all enamored anyway and just ready to be charmed.
Speaker 4: Especially Rachel. Well, she does lose herself a little bit
Speaker 4: in this scene. Can't seem to remember anything at the
Speaker 4: proper time. Oh my gosh, but you all aren't fire behind.
Speaker 4: I mean, anybody's just all wishy, washy, squishy, squashy and
Speaker 4: loving him and all of that, so it's not all me. No,
Speaker 4: have you ever met anybody that you were that starstruck
Speaker 4: when you met? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a few. I would say, Carol Burnette really, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I loved her so much. Yeah, Billy d Williams. Okay,
Speaker 3: I kind of embarrassed myself with that one because I
Speaker 3: used to almost got crying when I see him. Okay, girl,
Speaker 3: I mean I would just run. I would just I
Speaker 3: had such a crush on him that I would just go,
Speaker 3: are you sitting hide somewhere? And he would do the
Speaker 3: same thing, like if he saw me first, and he
Speaker 3: would jump behind something.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, to tease you, to tease me,
Speaker 4: and you that you was looking like a model.
Speaker 3: Show it was Billy d Williams. All I could see
Speaker 3: was you want mom to fall off?
Speaker 2: Yes, let it fall on me, Please let it fall
Speaker 2: on me.
Speaker 3: Loved him and actually got a chance to work on him,
Speaker 3: work on right time.
Speaker 2: This is a true Hollywood sewer.
Speaker 3: I got a chance to work with him on Half
Speaker 3: and Half, and by then I had no crush, so
Speaker 3: it wasn't as much fun. Of course, he couldn't remember
Speaker 3: his line, which kind of worked my nerve.
Speaker 2: That's all it takes. They can't remember their life. I'm
Speaker 2: done with you.
Speaker 3: But it was funny because I was so excited, and
Speaker 3: then I realized I wasn't as excited as I had been,
Speaker 3: you know, I was over my crush.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he was the one. And Carol Brennette for me.
Speaker 3: I remember watching her and just wondering if she was
Speaker 3: as nice as she seemed to be. And before we
Speaker 3: got our show, I got a chance to meet her
Speaker 3: at this luncheon that CBS was throwing and we were
Speaker 3: singing at it, and so Tony brought her over to
Speaker 3: meet me, and she was so nice and so sweet
Speaker 3: and just so normal. But to me, I was still
Speaker 3: in that Oh my god, it's Carol Burnetti.
Speaker 2: You know, I just can't.
Speaker 3: So when we finally started filming the show at CBS,
Speaker 3: I was getting off the elevator at CBS one day
Speaker 3: and going to our rehearsal hall and I looked up
Speaker 3: and Carol was walking towards me, which freaked me out.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, okay, hi, miss Carol Manette
Speaker 2: to myself.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm trying to figure out what Hi, Miss Barnette,
Speaker 3: Hi Carol, And as I was rehearsing, she said Hi,
Speaker 3: tell Ama and just kept going. I was like what,
Speaker 3: And I ran to the rehearsal hall to tell everybody
Speaker 3: that Carol Brenette knows my and honey, that is something
Speaker 3: that I have never forgotten. I mean, that just made
Speaker 3: my career in a way. For her to remember me,
Speaker 3: made her everything I thought she was. And she was
Speaker 3: nice all the time. Let's yeah, Carol Burnette was big
Speaker 3: for me, big for me. And they ended up doing
Speaker 3: a take on Tony Orlando and what was it Tony Tulsa?
Speaker 4: And are you serious?
Speaker 2: I don't know what. They did a take off on
Speaker 2: Carol Burnette of Tony Orlando and Dawn And at the
Speaker 2: end we walked up behind him and tapped him on
Speaker 2: the shoulders. You should have seen harberccorman his mustache and
Speaker 2: those shoes, because Harvey's like six' two, anyway then he
Speaker 2: had on the platform shoes and his mustache kept coming.
Speaker 2: Loose but it was a funny.
Speaker 3: Segment but, yeah probably the one that influenced my career
Speaker 3: the most would Be Carol. Burnette second would Be Diane.
Speaker 3: Carroll oh, wow that's. COOL i was just informed by
Speaker 3: our crack research team that the name of the group
Speaker 3: that uprized itself Of Vicky, Lawrence Carol burnette And Arviy
Speaker 3: korman was Called, Tony talahassee And. Dusk you know that's
Speaker 3: a dog bone. Shame another step back in time and
Speaker 3: back to the. Show, yes and we're. Back so the next,
Speaker 3: day the buddy character stops by the house offering free
Speaker 3: tickets to the show that the family, wanted and the
Speaker 3: family is completely charmed by. Him, Mmmmm i'm so, CHARMED
Speaker 3: i can't even talk or. Think and his take when
Speaker 3: he was talking and he turned around AND i was just.
Speaker 3: Right there was. Perfect couldn't have done it with anybody.
Speaker 3: Else and THEN i don't know if anybody NOTICED i
Speaker 3: was sniffing. Him oh my, GOD i just went. There they,
Speaker 3: said be. Obsessed that's not a. PROBLEM i can do.
Speaker 4: That be, Obsessed and your brain just went to sniff and.
Speaker 2: Folk hey he was, There my nose was. There it
Speaker 2: was practically on his. Shoulder.
Speaker 3: Anyway he spent pretty good. TOO i remember he had
Speaker 3: on some nice. Club but you got a. Problem let,
Speaker 3: like you ain't sniff. NOBODY i know.
Speaker 2: You, girl don't make me start telling your. Secrets, okay
Speaker 2: let's move.
Speaker 4: On, yeah, Okay so he comes. Over then he needs
Speaker 4: to speak To carl alone in the, kitchen where he
Speaker 4: tries to Get carl to drop the charges against.
Speaker 3: Him tries a little everything, too tries the, charm tries
Speaker 3: the Indignanty, Carol he's stomping his feet like he's five years.
Speaker 3: Old and then what does he finally, do tries the.
Speaker 3: Broblem carl is not the, one the last. STRONG i,
Speaker 3: Mean carl's a lot of, things but he has. Integrity
Speaker 3: he's honest And, homie don't play.
Speaker 2: That it's just the. Truth he don't play That.
Speaker 4: And did you like his little? Line which ONE i
Speaker 4: can't shave with my eyes. CLOSED i have to look
Speaker 4: at myself every day in the. Mirror you better go
Speaker 4: on and be poet At. CARL i know you didn't write,
Speaker 4: it but go on to be poetic. Anyway work that,
Speaker 4: line work, it work it. Right, YEAH i loved. IT
Speaker 4: i love the fact that the family.
Speaker 3: Hears it reacts to it, immediately.
Speaker 2: Immediately that's WHAT i love. About it's that old, thing you.
Speaker 3: Know And i'm sure you've gone through this with your
Speaker 3: sister and brother that you get pissed. OFF i get
Speaker 3: pissed off of my. SISTERS i can call them everything
Speaker 3: but the son Of. God but you, BETTING i say
Speaker 3: you bet or. Not you better not open your mouth
Speaker 3: because the first time you try to agree with, Me
Speaker 3: i'm gonna be pissed off at. You.
Speaker 4: Right it's a, fight, yeah and they'll be mad with
Speaker 4: you at that. Person, Okay so, buddy sentenced to a
Speaker 4: fun and community. Service and what was your famous? LINE
Speaker 4: a big star like that picking up trash on the?
Speaker 4: INTERSTATE i don't want, It and, carlgoes, Now, rachel you
Speaker 4: shouldn't take pleasure in other people's misery anyone.
Speaker 2: For a slow drive along the.
Speaker 3: Interstate oh they should have had that one scene in
Speaker 3: there wouldn't have been fabulous to See ron in his
Speaker 3: picking up, trash picking up trash in his outfit with
Speaker 3: the sweater with the with the whole prison thing around
Speaker 3: the shoulder and tied.
Speaker 2: On that would have been.
Speaker 3: Funny BUT i love the fact, that you, know we
Speaker 3: we play a lot on the, show but at the same,
Speaker 3: time it always comes down to something that's. Real and
Speaker 3: in spite of the fact that Even karl was a
Speaker 3: little charmed by but he good rich to begin, with
Speaker 3: it comes down to integrity and to who he is
Speaker 3: as a. Man and it always makes me proud to see,
Speaker 3: that even THOUGH i know it's not, Real like he,
Speaker 3: said he's not. Real it's on the, show but it's
Speaker 3: an important part of our. Show he makes mistakes and
Speaker 3: he does silly stuff and all of, that but he
Speaker 3: is a man that you can.
Speaker 2: Admire he's a man that you can. Respect he's you.
Speaker 4: KNOW i noticed on the show, though that the show
Speaker 4: kind of played into the cliche that celebrities are. OBNOXIOUS
Speaker 4: i honestly think the most are you think, so, well
Speaker 4: not all of, us but a lot of.
Speaker 2: Them we can be abnoxious, HERE i don't think.
Speaker 4: SO i don't really have that experience with anybody THAT
Speaker 4: i can really. Remember like how people play it when
Speaker 4: they do satire about people that are. Crazy but there's
Speaker 4: some people that are crazy to work there ling out of.
Speaker 3: Fat, well that's, true because they're just some crazy people out, there.
Speaker 3: Period BUT i think what they mean is a lot
Speaker 3: of times celebrities can be demanding and wanting a certain
Speaker 3: thing a certain way and all. That i'm not saying
Speaker 3: that all of us are like, that but there are a.
Speaker 2: FEW i. Know i've worked hard at just having.
Speaker 3: Not a perfect reputation everything because you, KNOW i, throw, oh,
Speaker 3: everybody let me stop.
Speaker 4: You you have a perfect. Reputation there are a few
Speaker 4: people in the. Industry you are one of those people that,
Speaker 4: everybody whether it's a feloacto or like, producers, writers you
Speaker 4: work because people love.
Speaker 2: You did you.
Speaker 4: Inter the industry THINKING i want to have this kind
Speaker 4: of Reputation now you know not only does your work
Speaker 4: speak for, you but also your ability to get along with.
Speaker 3: FOLKS i wanted to be, likable like A Carol. BURNETTE
Speaker 3: i wanted, that and of, COURSE i wanted to be,
Speaker 3: liked but more than, that AS i was growing into the,
Speaker 3: business my grand mother who raised, me kept me ground
Speaker 3: did as much as she loved to spend those, chicks
Speaker 3: and she did spend them and loved. It she also
Speaker 3: constantly reminded me that that big light THAT i was
Speaker 3: in was more than likely, temporary and that that light
Speaker 3: and that tunnel could go out at any, time and
Speaker 3: that i'd better have people that really cared about me
Speaker 3: in my corner when that, happened so THAT i wouldn't feel.
Speaker 2: Lost BUT i was blessed in that a.
Speaker 3: Lot AND i can say most of the people THAT
Speaker 3: i worked WITH i did enjoy working. With for the
Speaker 3: period of time THAT i work with the SUM i
Speaker 3: STILL i, mean there were just shows that we just
Speaker 3: had so much fun on that it was. Easy BUT
Speaker 3: i did always conscious that you get more flies with
Speaker 3: honey than you do with, Vinegar SO i always try
Speaker 3: to present.
Speaker 2: Well i'm usually in.
Speaker 3: A good, mood especially If i'm working BECAUSE i got
Speaker 3: a check coming at the end of the.
Speaker 2: WEEK i know that's, right and AM i getting paid is?
Speaker 3: Right that cheers me up right. Away, Yeah i've worked
Speaker 3: at just saying even my real world is at. Home that's,
Speaker 3: deep that's a.
Speaker 4: Preach my real world is at, home but there are
Speaker 4: people in that world THAT i bring home with, me like.
Speaker 3: You there are people in the business That i'm very close.
Speaker 3: To BUT i was always made aware that this was a,
Speaker 3: gift and the gift could leave it, anytime and you
Speaker 3: want to have something else to back you up when that's.
Speaker 3: Gone so she always encouraged me to keep my family
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing and keep a saying head
Speaker 3: about myself.
Speaker 4: Totally and you shared that much with me as, well
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i MEAN i spent a lot of time with,
Speaker 4: you traveling with, you even to your, hometown.
Speaker 2: Even with all my million.
Speaker 4: Relatives georgie's, right it was always the. Thing and there's a,
Speaker 4: saying don't tell me your, philosophy embody. It and you
Speaker 4: have always been the same person this whole.
Speaker 2: Time that's, Good. KELLY i like that.
Speaker 4: You totally give that off all your, characters like these
Speaker 4: fun great. Characters you really represent that for the people
Speaker 4: who come up to, you and you're so. Warm that's so.
Speaker 2: Dope my friends all.
Speaker 3: Here he just getting paid for nothing like that, anyway smart.
Speaker 4: Ass, well speaking of, wonderful, loving gracious. Stars it's a
Speaker 4: funny thing because this episode aired a few months after
Speaker 4: a real life incident happened where Jean Jah gabor slapped
Speaker 4: the police.
Speaker 2: Officer oh that's, Right Beverly.
Speaker 4: Hills you remember, That OH i.
Speaker 2: Do oh she slapped? Him good.
Speaker 3: Too OH i almost left thought she was a black
Speaker 3: woman there for a, minute she's showing. Out did she
Speaker 3: go to jail or did she just get a? Fight
Speaker 3: what happened with? Her that was, crazy. Baby she definitely got.
Speaker 3: Arrested she was accused of using the justice system for self.
Speaker 3: Publicity now her husband would have done. That her husband
Speaker 3: definitely would have done.
Speaker 2: That BUT i.
Speaker 3: Wonder if that had any inspiration for this episode With
Speaker 3: Buddy goodrich because it was.
Speaker 2: Around the same.
Speaker 3: Time, no, no it's too. Original it's all. Original oh, okay,
Speaker 3: Okay i'm glad we clarified. That you, know you are
Speaker 3: the voice of. REASON i am just so happy to
Speaker 3: be your.
Speaker 2: Partner. Oh. Absolutely how about some funk tunk as some
Speaker 2: funky packs. Girl, okay so let's get into some funky.
Speaker 4: Facts Ron glass's full name Was Ronald Earl, glass and
Speaker 4: he was born In, Evansville. Indiana in nineteen forty. Five
Speaker 4: he was a Devoted, Buddhists, yeah and support of humanitarian.
Speaker 4: Causes and he was known for his kind demeanor and
Speaker 4: mentorship of young.
Speaker 2: Actors, yeah he was the.
Speaker 3: Sweetheart the first TIME i really got to talk to,
Speaker 3: him we were In canada doing The Alan Thick, show
Speaker 3: AND i.
Speaker 2: Don't know if it was Pre Busom.
Speaker 3: BUDDIES i can't even remember exactly the, time but that
Speaker 3: was the first TIME i really got a chance to
Speaker 3: sit and talk with him because we were both doing
Speaker 3: the talk show and we were in the green. Room
Speaker 3: AND i know that he did do a lot of.
Speaker 3: Mentorship i'm not sure if he did it through. PROGRAMS
Speaker 3: i think it was more on an individual. Basis but
Speaker 3: he was a. Sweetheart he was a sweet. Man he
Speaker 3: played some crazy characters and snippy and snotty and all that,
Speaker 3: stuff but he was always very kind around, Me so
Speaker 3: that's ALL i can vouch for. It and, TALENTED i
Speaker 3: MEAN i can vouch for that all day, long because
Speaker 3: he was extremely gifted as an.
Speaker 2: Actor.
Speaker 4: Yeah also another fact is That Buddy goodrich offers called
Speaker 4: two or three thousand dollars to be a technical advisor
Speaker 4: or his.
Speaker 2: Ship technical advisor Technical.
Speaker 4: Well in nineteen eighty, nine a non union technical advisor
Speaker 4: would be paid one to two thousand per.
Speaker 2: Episodes say what?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Really, yeah then he was more or less, fair very.
Speaker 4: Fair, yeah, okay even if it was for nefarious, Reason
Speaker 4: yes it.
Speaker 2: Was well that is very.
Speaker 3: Interesting, So, kelly while nobody's, listening but do you have
Speaker 3: any stories about any celebrities that may have been so
Speaker 3: fabulous on camera and then they got off camera and
Speaker 3: turned into?
Speaker 2: Satan anybody like?
Speaker 4: That and you're, like, uh, well as you, know it
Speaker 4: is not good business to be mentioning his. Name So
Speaker 4: i'll just say. THIS i was on the show as
Speaker 4: a guest star with a group of ladies and the
Speaker 4: star of the show was. Horrible she has a famous
Speaker 4: relative and the mother was completely, wonderful but the daughter
Speaker 4: was crazy as.
Speaker 2: Hell And i'll just leave it at a did you
Speaker 2: have an? Altercation did you? Have because it was really
Speaker 2: passive aggressive. Too that was the. WORLD i hate, that.
Speaker 4: AND i guess they just. Socialized the people on the
Speaker 4: show were just used to. It you ever seen people
Speaker 4: who are like Have Stockholm central where they're just used
Speaker 4: to the.
Speaker 2: Abuse so that.
Speaker 4: And you just looking, like are you crazy or WHAT
Speaker 4: i think you're dealing. With the cracking has been.
Speaker 3: Released we may have been doing the same. Shows i'm
Speaker 3: just thinking thinking about. That that sounded my, teeth, familia is?
Speaker 2: It? Well? Girl we have.
Speaker 3: Had some experiences in this business and hope to have, many,
Speaker 3: many many more good.
Speaker 2: Ones right with people like? You, yeah like? Me that's.
Speaker 3: Right so let's see, now have we just gone through
Speaker 3: everything we can go through on this? Show is there
Speaker 3: anything else you want to throw away In Miss, kelly
Speaker 3: anything you're thinking, about anything you want to?
Speaker 2: Share? Now that's?
Speaker 3: It, okay well you heard of. People that's. It that's
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