Speaker 1: What's that a.
Speaker 2: Bed?
Speaker 3: It's spooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead.
Speaker 4: It's coming this way.
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, how I'm ghosted.
Speaker 3: Us Nandez. Hey boo, it's me Roz. Welcome to Ghosted
Speaker 3: by Roz Hernandez. We've got another listener phone Call Extravaganza
Speaker 3: for you, and you know the drill. If you want
Speaker 3: to be on one, all you gotta do is email
Speaker 3: Ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com with the subject
Speaker 3: line listener episode and give me some brief bullet points,
Speaker 3: maybe a sentence or two about the kinds of stories
Speaker 3: that you have, and then maybe we'll work something out.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this one. Today we are going
Speaker 3: to be hearing from Demi, We're going to be hearing
Speaker 3: from Hallan and Daniel, and so let's just get right
Speaker 3: into it. It is time for this month's listener phone
Speaker 3: Call Extravaganza. On with the show Demi from Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: How are you, Demi?
Speaker 6: I'm fantastic.
Speaker 3: How are you so good? What kind of stories you
Speaker 3: got for me?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 7: I know I told you about three, and I believe
Speaker 7: they're all grandmother themed.
Speaker 3: I love a grandmother spirit.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, my grandma and I were very close. I
Speaker 7: grew up with her. She's always been a very close relative.
Speaker 7: I mean she kind of basically raised me. So she
Speaker 7: passed away in twenty sixteen. And the whole story is
Speaker 7: a little bit of a two parter. It's so basically
Speaker 7: I was I went through a bad breakup in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 7: My grandmother was had fallen ill. She had lung cancer
Speaker 7: and she had she was just basically on hospice at
Speaker 7: that time. And I was going through a bad breakup
Speaker 7: at the time also, and I was kind of not
Speaker 7: sure where I was going to be. I wasn't sure
Speaker 7: if I was going to come back to la because
Speaker 7: I was in Seattle at the time, or if I
Speaker 7: was going to stop off in Sacramento. And I didn't
Speaker 7: know how I was going to get there even And
Speaker 7: so I literally had all my bags and everything packed,
Speaker 7: and I used to do drags, so I had a
Speaker 7: whole lot of a whole lot of boxes and things,
Speaker 7: and I had bought a plane ticket, but I had
Speaker 7: no clue how to get my stuff there. So I
Speaker 7: was like sitting by my phone just waiting. One day
Speaker 7: and I had a message from her friend that I
Speaker 7: hadn't spoken to in probably years, saying that he was
Speaker 7: leaving from Seattle to Riverside, where I'm from, and.
Speaker 6: I was like, how are you getting there?
Speaker 7: He because I already got a I already got a
Speaker 7: U call, and I was like, when are you leaving Saturday?
Speaker 7: The same day that I bought my plane ticket for.
Speaker 7: I don't know how I manifested this. It happened weird,
Speaker 7: super weird, but I'm very glad it did happen because
Speaker 7: I was actually able to go to Riverside with him,
Speaker 7: where my grandmother was, and see her before she passed. WHOA, Yeah,
Speaker 7: So I was able to spend like a week with
Speaker 7: her while she was basically on her deathbed. It was
Speaker 7: really amazing first of all. But you know, after a while,
Speaker 7: I'm like, I got to go back to Sacramento, where
Speaker 7: I had already dropped off my stuff to at my
Speaker 7: friend's house, so I was going to go stay with them.
Speaker 7: The wigs, the wigs, the boxes, the outfit, it was all.
Speaker 6: It was all waiting for me back there.
Speaker 7: So I had gone back, and I think maybe there
Speaker 7: was like maybe two weeks after that, I was in
Speaker 7: San Francisco partying it up with some friends and I
Speaker 7: got the phone call from my mom saying Grandma's gone,
Speaker 7: and uh, I.
Speaker 6: Was like, okay, cool, we expected this. I get it.
Speaker 7: I'm at a party right now, I'm not gonna I
Speaker 7: know she would want me to like actually have fun
Speaker 7: rather than be sad about this, So finish off the party,
Speaker 7: went home, went out to Sacramento, I think the next day,
Speaker 7: and I believe it was that night.
Speaker 6: So this is where it gets weird.
Speaker 7: That night, I had gone to bed and I had
Speaker 7: this crazy dream about my grandmother. It was I have
Speaker 7: I've had some pretty crazy dreams in my life, like
Speaker 7: I've I'm a very spiritual person. I've I've had some
Speaker 7: very outlandish dreams. But this one was different because it
Speaker 7: had a completely different feel too. It It seemed real,
Speaker 7: it was, but it was like also cartoony in a way.
Speaker 7: But I had woken up in her basically her her
Speaker 7: to her mobile home park that she would live that
Speaker 7: she was living in at the time, and she was
Speaker 7: with me. She was like right next to me, and
Speaker 7: we were talking and having this whole conversation about like
Speaker 7: how I missed her, how I love her, and we're
Speaker 7: walking through the park together and the next thing, you know,
Speaker 7: she goes, I'll race you, and she she starts running,
Speaker 7: and I was like, my grandmother is running. This is crazy,
Speaker 7: Like it was so weird. We were running through the
Speaker 7: park and we're like having we're like laughing, having a
Speaker 7: good time, and we run up this hill and we
Speaker 7: get to like this end of this hill, which is
Speaker 7: kind of like part of the hill in the park,
Speaker 7: but at the end of the hill was actually like
Speaker 7: this really weird gateway. And then she looked at me
Speaker 7: and she said, you know, I gotta go. I'm just
Speaker 7: happy to see you. And I was like, I miss you.
Speaker 7: I love you so much. And then that was that.
Speaker 7: I literally woke up immediately and just started crying.
Speaker 6: It was just immediate.
Speaker 7: I had never experienced anything like that before in my life.
Speaker 7: It was I've experienced some really weird things before, but
Speaker 7: like nothing like that.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 7: It was a very unique experience, I think, and I
Speaker 7: definitely think that I was visited.
Speaker 6: By my grandmother.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh that's not the only time she's visited me either.
Speaker 6: She's visited me a couple other times too.
Speaker 7: In dreams, I mostly get like, I mean, I'm a
Speaker 7: very spiritual person.
Speaker 6: I read Taro. I do all kinds of things, but.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've I've had experiences like that, but but I
Speaker 7: think mostly got communicated with in dreams.
Speaker 3: Well, you said in an email that you talked to
Speaker 3: her through a psychic. Yeah, where did you meet the psychic?
Speaker 6: I met him on Grinder.
Speaker 3: There was a point in my life. I haven't been
Speaker 3: on Grinder in a long time, but there was a
Speaker 3: point when I was on Grinder, and that's how I
Speaker 3: met my hair somebody that was cutting my hair for
Speaker 3: a couple of years.
Speaker 4: I mean, you could be.
Speaker 7: Some really great people in there. I'm not on the
Speaker 7: apps either anymore. But this is a really weird time
Speaker 7: in my life too. I was worth a kind of
Speaker 7: a dark time and my I just was like I
Speaker 7: just need to get late or something because I just
Speaker 7: I need to like get out of the house. And
Speaker 7: so I started talking to this guy really cute whatever,
Speaker 7: and we started changing messages and saying like, how are you,
Speaker 7: where are you? Who are you? Whatever? And he goes,
Speaker 7: I have a really weird question for you. I go, yeah, sure, He.
Speaker 3: Goes, do you a lot of things on Grinder?
Speaker 8: True?
Speaker 6: Yeah, very true.
Speaker 7: And she goes and he goes, do you have an
Speaker 7: old her female presence that you were very close to.
Speaker 6: And I was like, yes, this is weird.
Speaker 7: And he goes, is, was she your grandmother on your
Speaker 7: mom's side. I go yeah, and she and he goes,
Speaker 7: is your birthday in September? What is happening? I go, yes,
Speaker 7: that that's where my birthday is. She goes, and he goes,
Speaker 7: it just passed, you know, happy birthday. But your grandmother
Speaker 7: is actually here with me, and she wants to say hi.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, your grandma was on grinder.
Speaker 7: My grandma was on grinder to say hi to me,
Speaker 7: and so I was like, whoa wait a second. So like,
Speaker 7: now I have to meet this person because this is
Speaker 7: just too creepy and weird. And so we meet up.
Speaker 7: I go over to his place. He actually does a
Speaker 7: terror reading for me and actually like like telling me
Speaker 7: all the things I should be doing instead of what
Speaker 7: I wasn't doing, you know, and he goes, well, your grandmother, like,
Speaker 7: you know, she just wants to know that she really
Speaker 7: loves you. She's here for you whenever you need her,
Speaker 7: and she wants to just let you know that you're
Speaker 7: on the right path and you just need to like
Speaker 7: get clearer about what you're doing, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 7: this is so crazy again Grandma and brainder. I don't
Speaker 7: know how this happened, but it just it was meant
Speaker 7: to happen, I guess.
Speaker 3: So, did you guys hook up?
Speaker 6: No, I did not get laid. I think the mood
Speaker 6: had gone by that point. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not usually how it starts.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 7: I was definitely like not in the right mind frame
Speaker 7: for that after that, but no, I was very thankful
Speaker 7: for that.
Speaker 6: I never saw him again.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's amazing. Okay, tell me another story.
Speaker 6: All right, this more of a synchronicity story.
Speaker 7: But my I, my mom is a bit of a hoarder.
Speaker 7: She had recently moved. This just happened maybe like last year,
Speaker 7: but she had recently moved to this this apartment, and.
Speaker 6: She had all this stuff in storage.
Speaker 7: So I went out to Riverside to help her move
Speaker 7: all of her stuff from the storage to her to
Speaker 7: her new apartment. And we found all kinds of all
Speaker 7: kinds of things, one of which was being We've already
Speaker 7: had this discussion of like where grandma or Grandpa might
Speaker 7: not have been my grandpa like Grandma might have had
Speaker 7: a uh grandma might have had a an affair during
Speaker 7: the time of my mom. So it's been this question
Speaker 7: for the past couple of years between me and my
Speaker 7: and my aunts and my mom and everything. It's like, well,
Speaker 7: we will never know for sure. We've had DNA tests.
Speaker 7: It's inconclusive, but there's been some questions still.
Speaker 3: And now Maury's off the air, that show's not't even on.
Speaker 7: Anymore Morey's off the air. But one of which that
Speaker 7: we found was we found this lighter and I looked
Speaker 7: at this lighter and I was like, who's E T.
Speaker 7: And she looks and my mom looks at me and
Speaker 7: she goes, well, no, it says et On here, who's
Speaker 7: E T? And and he goes, oh my god. And
Speaker 7: she goes, oh my god, that's Ed Taita, the guy
Speaker 7: that grandma might have had.
Speaker 6: An affair with.
Speaker 7: She she had this lighter in her stuff still, and
Speaker 7: we found it in the storage unit.
Speaker 3: Your light definitely was doing things with E. T.
Speaker 6: Exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: But one of the other things that we found this
Speaker 7: was kind of the most interesting part to me, other
Speaker 7: than you know, not knowing that my grandfather was maybe
Speaker 7: not my grandfather.
Speaker 6: Was.
Speaker 7: So I was cleaning up my mom's car again, huge order, papers,
Speaker 7: garbage everywhere. I love my mom, but it's one of
Speaker 7: the things. I was going through her car and I
Speaker 7: went through her glove box, which was just full of
Speaker 7: all this papers, all of these DMB papers and everything.
Speaker 7: I'm going through, I'm sorting and I found a letter
Speaker 7: that was addressed to me, and I was like, what
Speaker 7: the heck? But it was to my old address in Seattle,
Speaker 7: and I was like, what the heck is this? Why
Speaker 7: is it? Why is it still in my mom's car.
Speaker 7: I haven't lived in Seattle at this point in like
Speaker 7: six years. Like, what the hell is this letter? I
Speaker 7: open it. It's a birthday card for my grandmother and
Speaker 7: my birthday had just passed, so I was like what
Speaker 7: on I went and I'm like screaming to mom.
Speaker 6: I'm like, Mom, what is this? She goes, I don't know.
Speaker 7: It must have just been in the car, or maybe
Speaker 7: I forgot this or something, or maybe Grandma just wanted
Speaker 7: you to have it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like that.
Speaker 7: So but again, we always had this thing where she
Speaker 7: would say I love you more than a rainbow ever
Speaker 7: since I was a kid, and it was signed I
Speaker 7: love you more than a rainbow.
Speaker 6: And I still have the card. It's kind of like
Speaker 6: one of the last things I have from her.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: Do you have other stories?
Speaker 6: I do. I've actually seen a ghost.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, can I hear?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 7: So, me and a couple of my friends back when
Speaker 7: I was living in Riverside, This is maybe two thousand
Speaker 7: and ten or so, we had two thousand and nine,
Speaker 7: and so we had decided to go ghost hounding one day,
Speaker 7: me and two of my friends, and we had done
Speaker 7: a little Google search of like really cool cemeteries to
Speaker 7: go to, and one of which was Hillside Cemetery in Redlands.
Speaker 7: And anyone who grew up in the Ie or even
Speaker 7: in Redlands has kind of been familiar with this because
Speaker 7: there's a lot of stories about this cemetery, some of
Speaker 7: which being there has been Satanic rituals, or children going
Speaker 7: missing in the hills nearby, all kinds of things.
Speaker 6: This Google search brought up all of this.
Speaker 7: Information to us, so we were like, we gotta go naturally,
Speaker 7: and we had. We had gone after the day and
Speaker 7: I brought like my pendulum with me to kind of
Speaker 7: like see if I can get any messages or anything,
Speaker 7: and to no avail. But we also wanted to scout
Speaker 7: out where we were going to get into what it
Speaker 7: looked like inside, so we don't get lost, because it's
Speaker 7: kind of a really big cemetery. And so we came
Speaker 7: back that night. We brought our camera equipment, me and
Speaker 7: my car. My car in particular was a nineteen ninety
Speaker 7: four Toyota Corolla time with the driver said door smashed
Speaker 7: in because my grandpa, my stepdad, had taken it for
Speaker 7: a joy ride one night, so I only had one
Speaker 7: one working door on this car. And so me and
Speaker 7: my two friends were like, in this car, we drive
Speaker 7: up the hillside cemetery. We get out and we look
Speaker 7: at the giant columns in the front and it's just
Speaker 7: the giant walls. We can't really get over it. So
Speaker 7: we're like, well, hey, like why don't we go around
Speaker 7: the back and see if we can get get in.
Speaker 6: And so.
Speaker 7: I go, yeah, sure, I drive the car around the
Speaker 7: back of the cemetery and we found a low hanging fence,
Speaker 7: so we're like, hey, we can hop over that easily.
Speaker 7: Let's get our stuff and like let's get out, and
Speaker 7: we got my friend in the back who's like kind
Speaker 7: of gathering his bag and his equipment and stuff, and
Speaker 7: me and my other friend in the front seat were
Speaker 7: just kind of like staring out the window waiting for
Speaker 7: him to get ready in the back, and we see
Speaker 7: this kind of like white figure, like this amorphous mist
Speaker 7: like coming towards us.
Speaker 6: It was like getting bigger.
Speaker 7: And I go, Britdy, do you see that? She goes, yeah,
Speaker 7: I do, And I was like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 7: And it's getting closer and closer to us, And she
Speaker 7: could even vouch for this too, like to this day
Speaker 7: that we both saw the exact same thing, but it
Speaker 7: was coming towards us, and then I didn't want to
Speaker 7: wait around to see if it got any closer to us.
Speaker 7: It got like basically to the fence. We still couldn't
Speaker 7: make out any sort of shape on it. It's just
Speaker 7: like this weird mist that started coming towards us.
Speaker 6: I said, oh, hell.
Speaker 7: No, I don't think I've driven away, and like peeled
Speaker 7: out as fast as I ever have in my entire life.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have never seen anything like that. Now,
Speaker 3: when you describe this, like did it look like if
Speaker 3: there was actual like mist of this world? Or was
Speaker 3: it like something that just didn't seem like it was natural,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Like did it look
Speaker 3: different or did it just look like a vape cloud
Speaker 3: coming this way like you know what I mean? Or
Speaker 3: wasn't like something otherworldly as well? Like I don't know.
Speaker 7: Our first guess was it might have been like maybe
Speaker 7: like a worker or like you know, someone who works
Speaker 7: in the cemetery at night with a light. Okay, you know,
Speaker 7: but as it got closer to us, we can clearly
Speaker 7: see that it was just kind of and it was
Speaker 7: a very clear night. It was just kind of like
Speaker 7: what seemed to be a sentient mist whoah. Yeah, it
Speaker 7: was coming straight towards us, and it was almost to
Speaker 7: the fence where we were maybe about I need to
Speaker 7: thirty feet away from us before I was like I can't,
Speaker 7: we gotta go.
Speaker 6: Oh you know, it got really close to us.
Speaker 7: It was very creepy, and my friend in the back
Speaker 7: was begging us to turn back around and go see
Speaker 7: because he didn't see it.
Speaker 6: But I was like, no, we're not going back.
Speaker 7: We we successfully went ghost hunting.
Speaker 6: We didn't even have to get out of the car
Speaker 6: to do it.
Speaker 3: You know, that's amazing. I wish it was always that way. Demmy,
Speaker 3: you you got the stories? These are good?
Speaker 6: Thanks?
Speaker 3: Are there anymore? While I have you here?
Speaker 6: Have you ever heard of Random Nautica?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 6: Okay, well, random Nautica.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you're into like quantum physics or
Speaker 7: anything like that.
Speaker 3: Not a ton, but I love to hear about it.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, Random Nautica is basically it's an app that
Speaker 7: you can use on your phone, and I was. I
Speaker 7: became interested in this because I actually had a podcast
Speaker 7: I was working on for a while. I have one now,
Speaker 7: but my pre project, a Cosmic Journey. We had discovered
Speaker 7: this app and it basically we had heard the story
Speaker 7: about these kids in Seattle who had used this app. Basically,
Speaker 7: it's a quantum point finders, so like you set an
Speaker 7: intention and then it'll like find a random spot for you.
Speaker 7: There's all kinds of If you go and Reddit, you'll
Speaker 7: go in a deep dive down a rabbit hole and
Speaker 7: find all kinds of weird stories about this app. And
Speaker 7: there was this particular story about these kids in Seattle
Speaker 7: who use this app, and they put in their intention
Speaker 7: was death go figure, but they found a dead body
Speaker 7: whoa yeah.
Speaker 6: You can google this. It's a real thing.
Speaker 7: But I was like, I gotta try this app, and
Speaker 7: so so I basically.
Speaker 6: Took off on my scooter here in LA.
Speaker 3: But again, that sounds like grinder, Like you just say
Speaker 3: your intention is dick, and then it shows you where
Speaker 3: to find.
Speaker 7: It, and it'll show you where to find exactly. It's
Speaker 7: basically it's a grinder for plantum physics. Yeah, but so
Speaker 7: basically I don't remember what my I think my intention
Speaker 7: was angels because I wanted to go the opposite of
Speaker 7: what death was.
Speaker 6: I'm like, let's do angels.
Speaker 7: And so I had took off on my scooter and
Speaker 7: I was following this thing and I had gone really
Speaker 7: far from where I was. It actually took me pretty far.
Speaker 7: It took me like almost downtown. And I had gone
Speaker 7: down this hill. It was a very slight incline. It
Speaker 7: wasn't that bad or anything, but I had hit a
Speaker 7: pothole and I was almost to the end of where
Speaker 7: this location was and I had hit a pothole and
Speaker 7: I literally flipped over my handlebars and I fractured my arm.
Speaker 7: And it was so embarrassed because the Mill Street and
Speaker 7: this is like during the pandemic so there was like
Speaker 7: nobody on the street, but luckily there was somebody that
Speaker 7: had just pulled up behind me, and I was like,
Speaker 7: are you okay? I was like, yeah, I'm fine, and so,
Speaker 7: but I was like already nearly where I was supposed
Speaker 7: to go on this app. So I was just like,
Speaker 7: I'm just going to walk there and then go to
Speaker 7: the hospital because I want to find this out. And
Speaker 7: so I like walked over to like where this place was,
Speaker 7: and I the the actual location was like where this
Speaker 7: car was parked and the license plate set eleven eleven
Speaker 7: on it and there was a little angel hanging in
Speaker 7: the dash cam.
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was so weird.
Speaker 7: I was like, well, I'm going to go to the
Speaker 7: hospital now I figured this out.
Speaker 6: It was very weird.
Speaker 3: But how does this app work?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 7: So it's like a quant it's like a quantum point finder.
Speaker 7: It's like a random point basically you said intention and
Speaker 7: you know quantum mechanics kind of work. It's it's like
Speaker 7: very there's no rhyme or reason to it. It's just random.
Speaker 7: And so it just basically gives you a random point
Speaker 7: on a map and you go there. There's all these
Speaker 7: stories of like people that like set their intention like
Speaker 7: something really dark or something, and there's just like a
Speaker 7: creepy woman who's like sitting there, you know. Or they'll
Speaker 7: find their intentions purple and they'll find like a garden
Speaker 7: full of purple flowers or something like that.
Speaker 6: It's completely random.
Speaker 7: It doesn't always work, but there's usually something you can
Speaker 7: gather from it if you go on these expeditions.
Speaker 6: It's really interesting.
Speaker 3: And it's called random Nautica.
Speaker 7: Random Nautica, and I think the Reddit thread is called
Speaker 7: random knots, so like if it's that's what you're looking
Speaker 7: for on round, I.
Speaker 3: Can't believe I've never heard of this. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get into this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 3: I'm googled.
Speaker 6: There's tons of tiktoks about it too. Check it out.
Speaker 9: Oh there's a ghost in mind house Helen and the
Speaker 9: Colorado area.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 2: I am so good?
Speaker 3: How are you so good? Wait? So you work at
Speaker 3: a haunted school?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 3: What kind of school? Like what age?
Speaker 5: So it's a really rural school. So it's actually all
Speaker 5: kinds of kids.
Speaker 3: It's everybody like kindergarten today.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, actually like like little little kids.
Speaker 2: We have a daycare all the way up through twelfth grade.
Speaker 3: Whoa, and then also goes.
Speaker 5: Yes, there are some of those hanging around too, apparently
Speaker 5: don't know how old they are.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they're school age, maybe not.
Speaker 3: Do you have any idea who they are?
Speaker 2: No, that's also kind of the funny thing.
Speaker 5: So, I mean a lot of people pass through because
Speaker 5: it is so like the building is a really important building,
Speaker 5: like for the community, so there are you like community
Speaker 5: events in it or other gatherings. It's not just for school.
Speaker 5: So who knows?
Speaker 3: Hmm, Okay, well what kind of stuff happens.
Speaker 5: So the craziest we're one of the crazier things that
Speaker 5: has happened is it actually happened a couple years ago.
Speaker 5: My coworker was doing lunches during the summer for our
Speaker 5: summer program, and since it was pretty small, she was
Speaker 5: the only cook that we had at the time, like
Speaker 5: over the summer, and so she was in the kitchen
Speaker 5: and she was in the back where there's like a
Speaker 5: table on a chair, and she was hitting your break
Speaker 5: and there were some papers and a pencil on the table.
Speaker 5: And so this is actually something that was caught on
Speaker 5: security footage too, but I don't have the footage.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, but I have seen it. And so she's just
Speaker 2: sitting at the table, chilling whatever, and.
Speaker 5: You see the pencil, like you know how pencils are
Speaker 5: kind of like they're like octagons or whatever, so they
Speaker 5: have the ridges. Yeah, So the pencil starts like rocking
Speaker 5: back and forth a little bit.
Speaker 3: She's not even.
Speaker 5: Looking at it, and so it rocks, it rocks, and
Speaker 5: then it almost like it's like somebody took it and
Speaker 5: spun it from the middle.
Speaker 2: Like towards her, and she freaked out and ran away.
Speaker 3: Also saw that on the footage it was like break dancing,
Speaker 3: like yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, basically yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So she saw it in the moment and then was
Speaker 3: like I need to see the footage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because she knew there was a camera there and
Speaker 5: so when she looked at it, it was all right there.
Speaker 3: And was it known that this place is haunted at
Speaker 3: this point?
Speaker 5: So not exactly or like it doesn't get talked about
Speaker 5: all the time, but there's like people definitely have stories.
Speaker 3: So, well, what kind of stuff has happened to you?
Speaker 5: I mean, I hang out on the weekends at school
Speaker 5: because I just work all the time. And uh, there's
Speaker 5: just like kind of weird creepy feelings, like I know
Speaker 5: it's a big building.
Speaker 2: I also never turn the lights on when I'm like,
Speaker 2: I turn them out in my.
Speaker 5: Classroom, but I don't turn the building lights on when
Speaker 5: I'm here alone because I keep secretly hoping things will happen.
Speaker 3: Really Oh yeah, I feel like you're.
Speaker 2: Going after the ghosts like you do. I'm like, and
Speaker 2: I'm not listening.
Speaker 3: It sounds scary to me. Well, did the kids ever
Speaker 3: report anything?
Speaker 2: Not a ton?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they like will hear something or they'll they'll
Speaker 5: say stuff. One time, we were watching a movie in
Speaker 5: the gym, like as a so it was actually Halloween,
Speaker 5: and uh, we had like a movie night, horror night,
Speaker 5: and some of the kids like heard stuff in the
Speaker 5: gym while we were in there watching it. But I
Speaker 5: mean there's a movie, but there was also just like
Speaker 5: moments where.
Speaker 2: So like I was there too. It's like a chaperone.
Speaker 5: And the the gym, Like the way the gym lights
Speaker 5: work is that they're either like there's one.
Speaker 2: Section on of them or all of them on or
Speaker 2: none of them on.
Speaker 5: Right, So the one like section of lights that was
Speaker 5: like the back of.
Speaker 2: The gym section, so they're watching too, like yad lay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so like you know this part when like
Speaker 5: they're the like she's totally coming at the kids in
Speaker 5: the family or whatever, it's like the worst part. Yeah,
Speaker 5: And so like right at that moment, like they're screaming
Speaker 5: on the movie, some of the kids are screaming a
Speaker 5: little bit.
Speaker 2: And then there's one single light in the back of
Speaker 2: the gym just turns on.
Speaker 3: That was her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it probably is. The kids believe in
Speaker 2: her too.
Speaker 3: So so when like new teachers or whatever start working,
Speaker 3: are they debrief Like are people like just so you know, no, we.
Speaker 5: Try not to scare them away at first because we're like,
Speaker 5: work here.
Speaker 2: We need you teach your shortage.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but like uh but like it's funny because
Speaker 5: people come to conclusions on their own.
Speaker 3: That's the best. When people are like have you ever
Speaker 3: heard that there's a kids And then you get to
Speaker 3: be the person that's like, oh, yes, let me.
Speaker 2: Yeah this stuff happened. Yeah. So like I've heard multiple
Speaker 2: people tell me, like three or four different people.
Speaker 5: Like when I first started working here, people were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: it's hatted and I was like what, No, it's not.
Speaker 2: So I was even like, yeah, right, it's like a
Speaker 2: newer building whatever.
Speaker 5: And then the custodian and she like swore up and down.
Speaker 5: She was like, nope, I hear doors all the time,
Speaker 5: I hear voices, I hear people coming down the.
Speaker 2: Hall, and I'm the only one here. It's like eight o'clock.
Speaker 2: Yeah I know. And I was like I would be
Speaker 2: a little scared, So.
Speaker 3: Like that's who's gonna see the most.
Speaker 5: Exactly, Yeah, like they're alone, and that's at night, it's
Speaker 5: not even during the day.
Speaker 3: And that was me. My little cart would have clorox,
Speaker 3: it would have wind decks, and it would have holy water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like maybe I should get some of that.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 5: And then like so that custodian left and we had
Speaker 5: a new custodian and she came to her supervisor and
Speaker 5: was like, uh.
Speaker 2: Anything weird ever happened here?
Speaker 5: And her supervisor was like maybe why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you want to know?
Speaker 5: And she was like, well, I was cleaning in one
Speaker 5: of the back hallways and I heard doors opening and
Speaker 5: closing and there's nobody else in the school at this point.
Speaker 2: And her supervisors like, m.
Speaker 3: M, it's nothing, it's nothing.
Speaker 5: Just your head, it's fine, no, but like so she
Speaker 5: definitely heard something. And then even one of my fellow
Speaker 5: teas she was new this year and she was here
Speaker 5: around the weekend working and doing some stuff, and she
Speaker 5: heard like.
Speaker 2: Like basketballs bouncing in the gym.
Speaker 8: And like and.
Speaker 5: That's actually the gym is supposedly like one of the
Speaker 5: more like creepy places that in the back of the
Speaker 5: kitchen where the pencil incident occurred. But she also heard
Speaker 5: like voices, Like she was down one of the hallways
Speaker 5: and she heard voices in like a classroom and nobody
Speaker 5: was in there and just weird. Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, who is this? Like I'm like, I
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, I hang out at school all
Speaker 5: the time because it's my job, but I don't know
Speaker 5: why you and want to hang.
Speaker 8: Out of school.
Speaker 3: Good for you, I mean old school. Yeah, when there's
Speaker 3: no one there is that's terrifying to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like the cab my spaces and like
Speaker 5: the hallways don't have a lot of windows, but the
Speaker 5: classrooms have a lot, which is really nice.
Speaker 3: But like echoe hallways and yeah, a gym, yeah, so
Speaker 3: many places A ghost could.
Speaker 2: Be exactly, and who knows. There's like all these closets.
Speaker 2: They definitely hang out in the closets during the day.
Speaker 5: I feel like like where no one goes in.
Speaker 3: So you were also telling me that you grew up
Speaker 3: in a haunted farmhouse or you were living in one
Speaker 3: at one point.
Speaker 5: So my family had one. So my family like used
Speaker 5: to my My family's from England and they owned a
Speaker 5: farmhouse for like, oh probably.
Speaker 2: Like eighty years.
Speaker 3: In England.
Speaker 2: And yeah, in England, amazing, and yeah, it was great.
Speaker 5: So I just got to go over and be like, Hi,
Speaker 5: I'm a weird American cousin. Let me like eat all
Speaker 5: your chocolate and cheese and then I'll leave. But yeah,
Speaker 5: and it was a really old house.
Speaker 10: I think it had been built I want to say
Speaker 10: in like seventeen seventy three or something like pre United
Speaker 10: States I know, and I'm like, wow, it's still standing.
Speaker 5: No, But it was a really it was a cool house.
Speaker 5: And and like my cousin and I we would go
Speaker 5: out in the yard and there would just be all
Speaker 5: this like broken pottery everywhere, like from like coming up
Speaker 5: in the dirt. Like we would literally play like archaeologists
Speaker 5: and go hunting for pottery in the yard. It was
Speaker 5: just so old, yeah, and people just throwing their stuff
Speaker 5: out like whatever this plate broke, don't need that.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, weird things would like happen in.
Speaker 5: This house too. So like my I always heard stories.
Speaker 5: My grandfather grew up there and he it was like
Speaker 5: the nineteen forties, so like literally like World War twur
Speaker 5: in England and so it's they've had you know, the
Speaker 5: blackouts and stuff like that. And at night, like they
Speaker 5: would just kind of go sit in like the kind
Speaker 5: of the the sitting room, I guess, like the like
Speaker 5: around the fire and stuff like that. And there was
Speaker 5: a couple of times where they just heard this like
Speaker 5: really weird noise coming from a corner.
Speaker 2: And it wasn't just like oh there's a mouse in
Speaker 2: the wall or oh it's the wind. No, it sounded
Speaker 2: like literally you know those metal.
Speaker 3: Cookie tins Okay, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 5: Imagine somebody like throwing one down the stairs and the
Speaker 5: kind of noise it would make. H Yeah, and then
Speaker 5: they're like what was that? Nothing fell over and they
Speaker 5: like pulled up the floorboards to see if there's anything
Speaker 5: under there. There was nothing. They heard voices too, and
Speaker 5: my cousins actually or no, sorry, my great grandmother she
Speaker 5: heard her voice or her name being called, and like
Speaker 5: she was just doing whatever in the kitchen and she
Speaker 5: heard her name. She thought it was my great grandfather,
Speaker 5: her husband calling for her. But so she was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: what what do you need what? And then he didn't answer.
Speaker 5: She's like, okay, weird, whatever, just keep doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: And then later he comes in for lunch and she
Speaker 5: asked him, what what did.
Speaker 2: You need earlier? Why were you calling my name? And
Speaker 2: of course it was not him calling her name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and and yeah, and there's and there's no like
Speaker 5: I don't think if the time she had had any
Speaker 5: of like any of her kids yet.
Speaker 2: So that happened.
Speaker 5: And then because my family owned this house for so long,
Speaker 5: like so after my great grandparents died, my great uncle
Speaker 5: lived in it, and then.
Speaker 2: Some of my cousins lived in it.
Speaker 5: And uh so my cousins, like the ones who I
Speaker 5: used to go hunting for pottery in the yard with,
Speaker 5: they were there, but they were going on vacation and
Speaker 5: so they had like their oldest son who didn't live
Speaker 5: with them all the time.
Speaker 2: He was staying in the house to house sit, and
Speaker 2: so he was.
Speaker 8: Alone, and he heard from somewhere else in the house
Speaker 8: his name then being called, even though no one was
Speaker 8: home at all.
Speaker 3: I hate when a ghost knows your name because that
Speaker 3: means that they're just chilling watching everything and taking notes
Speaker 3: and picking up like, Okay, that one's name is that
Speaker 3: it's like when I see him, yeah, like oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and even I don't even know because it's weird
Speaker 5: because he didn't even live in the house of the time,
Speaker 5: so he was just staying there. So like, how did
Speaker 5: that ghost know his name? But it is here, like yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't know. But and that was like seventy years
Speaker 5: apart that this happened, which sadly seventy yeah, like whoa
Speaker 5: seven Yeah, so literally, my my great grandmother in the
Speaker 5: twenties hearing it or no, must have been the twenties
Speaker 5: and then so no eighty years because then it was
Speaker 5: like the two thousands when my cousin heard his name.
Speaker 3: Damn those Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're happy there.
Speaker 5: I mean the farm used to be like a brewery,
Speaker 5: I think, so maybe they're having a good time still.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and just like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear like all these stories too, Like my
Speaker 5: my grandfather also like, not only did the weird cookie
Speaker 5: turn get thrown down the stairs noise why, but he
Speaker 5: also woke up to someone standing.
Speaker 2: Over him at night, Oh my god? And yeah, was
Speaker 2: with her. And then I'm like, well, Granda, what do
Speaker 2: you do? And he's like, I think I pulled the
Speaker 2: covers over my head and.
Speaker 4: Just like sleep.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like what do you do? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like are you going to fight the ghost or what?
Speaker 5: But yeah, And then another like because my cousin then
Speaker 5: a different or not the one who was staying there,
Speaker 5: but one who was actually living there. She was my age,
Speaker 5: and she then told me that she woke up to
Speaker 5: someone standing over her in her bed. So it was
Speaker 5: again one of those weird, like seventy eighty year time jumps,
Speaker 5: you would say.
Speaker 3: That ghost would get a new act. Oh yeah in
Speaker 3: that amount of time. You know, it's like learn a
Speaker 3: new trick, you know really, So then yeah, like a pencil,
Speaker 3: some people need to.
Speaker 5: Get some pencils over there. Why are you just standing
Speaker 5: and calling people's names? That's that's kind of stocker behavior.
Speaker 3: So, so what is going on with this house nowadays?
Speaker 3: Is it still in the family?
Speaker 5: No, we sold it, so the family sold it off
Speaker 5: and uh because some of my family had passed away
Speaker 5: and all that.
Speaker 2: So now it I think it's available to stay in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like uh huh so, but I'm not one hundred
Speaker 5: like sure what the booking situation is.
Speaker 2: And I don't know. It's kind of in an industrial area.
Speaker 5: I think, like it used to be nice farmland, but
Speaker 5: all I remember when I visited was like, well, the
Speaker 5: chocolate and the cheese, but also like a lot of
Speaker 5: cars driving by.
Speaker 3: I can only imagine the reviews. Yeah, you might wake
Speaker 3: up to somebody's standing of for you, but otherwise amenities
Speaker 3: were nice. My god, Well, Helen, thank you so much
Speaker 3: for sharing all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: Of course. Well, if anything else ever happens, give me
Speaker 3: a call and let's do it again.
Speaker 2: Yes, you'll be the first to know if there are
Speaker 2: more pencils or voices for anything in school.
Speaker 3: Thank you, and thanks for being a teacher. That's amazing.
Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you.
Speaker 3: I've been ghosted too. Oh my god, Daniel is here
Speaker 3: from Maryland. Daniel, how are you.
Speaker 4: I'm doing well? Thanks, how are you? It's a happy
Speaker 4: mona pre sale ticket date to everyone who observes that.
Speaker 3: Are you one of these Moona girlie?
Speaker 4: I am?
Speaker 8: I am.
Speaker 4: I saw them on their last tour and I'm probably
Speaker 4: going to see them on this store.
Speaker 3: So I love that. Yeah, I need to get into
Speaker 3: them more. Everyone's always telling me about them.
Speaker 4: Album of the Year for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3: Well thanks for the tip. What about ghost, Daniel, We
Speaker 3: didn't come here to talk about music.
Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. I yeah, I have a couple
Speaker 4: of gros ghost stories, gross stories.
Speaker 3: I said, tell the gross story first and then ago.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're all pretty gross because a lot of
Speaker 4: my ghost stories come from this convent that I used
Speaker 4: to like. So, this convent is near where I grew up,
Speaker 4: just outside of DC, and I worked there and like
Speaker 4: would stay there for periods of time, sometimes for about
Speaker 4: ten years, starting in like nineteen ninety five or six,
Speaker 4: I think whenever I was twelve years old, and so
Speaker 4: I started working there after school. Yeah, I think think
Speaker 4: it was like ninety six to be sort of, you know,
Speaker 4: around that era, and so I started working there, but
Speaker 4: I had attended this daycare center that was inside of
Speaker 4: the convent. When I was like two years old. I
Speaker 4: started going there for daycare and it was the daycare
Speaker 4: center for the local Catholic parish, and I grew up
Speaker 4: in this very Catholic household. Don't worry, it didn't it
Speaker 4: didn't take. So I'm I'm cool, I'm chill.
Speaker 3: But was it like an active convent at the time.
Speaker 3: There were nuns around, So there were.
Speaker 4: I think like three floors. There was like a basement
Speaker 4: and then a ground floor, and then two floors above that,
Speaker 4: and the top floors were all where the nuns lived,
Speaker 4: and then the ground floor in the basement had like
Speaker 4: these classrooms that had been turned into a daycare center
Speaker 4: and they had kids from like infancy up to like
Speaker 4: you know, pre kindergarten, like four or five years old.
Speaker 3: And this is mid nineties when Sister Act was having
Speaker 3: its moment.
Speaker 4: Sure, I think it was a little after that, but yeah,
Speaker 4: like that had happened, sure, And the daycare center was
Speaker 4: run by one of the nuns that lived there, who
Speaker 4: all like pseudonymously call Sister Mary. And yeah, and she
Speaker 4: was like my boss. My brother worked there, some of
Speaker 4: my other friends worked there, and we would like do
Speaker 4: a lot of cleaning and stuff. So it was generally
Speaker 4: they were pretty gross stories like I'm cleaning up little
Speaker 4: bathrooms that kids, you know, pee all over, like yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, stuff like that and like repairs and but anyway,
Speaker 4: so we would we would sometimes stay there on weekends,
Speaker 4: and sometimes it was to do like more concentrated cleaning,
Speaker 4: like you know, we'd move all the furniture off and
Speaker 4: wax the floors or do the carpets, or we would
Speaker 4: Sometimes we were there just to kind of take care
Speaker 4: of some of the less independent nuns. So like if
Speaker 4: they got left there by the younger nuns for the weekend,
Speaker 4: we would kind of hang out and take care of
Speaker 4: They had dogs and they had they had these nuns
Speaker 4: that lived there, and so we would kind of be
Speaker 4: there to keep an eye on both the dogs and
Speaker 4: the nuns, you know, make sure nobody like falls down
Speaker 4: and breaks a hip kind of thing. And that sounds
Speaker 4: very because we were adolescent, you know, assigned male at birth,
Speaker 4: teenagers or whatever, and it's like a weird place for
Speaker 4: us to be hanging out. But they had like this
Speaker 4: big TV and like all this other it was like
Speaker 4: pretty cool for us. And they had cable, which we
Speaker 4: didn't have. So like my brother and my friends and
Speaker 4: I we would like stay there for weekends and it
Speaker 4: was like kind of like a fun thing because we
Speaker 4: didn't really have adult supervision and we could you know,
Speaker 4: like get into the nuns liquor cabinet.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It was kind of fun.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 3: So, oh my god, that sounds like a blast.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was cool. I don't know, it's
Speaker 4: like a weird It's like a very formative part of
Speaker 4: my life. That is so I think strains and unique too,
Speaker 4: like just like living at a convent and like working
Speaker 4: in daycare as like a young you know again like
Speaker 4: at the time like male mask person, Like it's not
Speaker 4: usual for young teen boys to like work in daycare
Speaker 4: and childcare settings. But it was great, you know, and
Speaker 4: I eventually like went on to be like more of
Speaker 4: a teacher, not just cleaning repair person. And yeah, it
Speaker 4: was pretty cool. But this convent was like super haunted,
Speaker 4: and my brother and my friends and I all had
Speaker 4: like crazy experiences a lot of the time there, and
Speaker 4: it would be like little stuff like you know, you'd
Speaker 4: see like a doll's head move or something like that.
Speaker 4: But we we would like say, there are a lot
Speaker 4: in the summer especially, and so this one story that
Speaker 4: I thought I would tell you today, it's I think
Speaker 4: my best one that I've got. So I'm gonna come
Speaker 4: in hot and it's called I call it the Lights
Speaker 4: in the Basement. So my brother and I were staying
Speaker 4: at this convent for the weekend, just like dog sitting
Speaker 4: this time, and on these kind of weekends, it was
Speaker 4: like extra chill because we didn't have to like do
Speaker 4: any of the additional cleaning work. We didn't really have
Speaker 4: to watch any of the nuns. So we were just
Speaker 4: watching these like three dogs and like one of them
Speaker 4: was like a really big dog and the other two
Speaker 4: were like little terrier mixes, and you know, we just
Speaker 4: we would feed them, let them go out for the bathroom,
Speaker 4: and like watch cable Ta and hang out and it
Speaker 4: was super chill. So this is a summer weekend, Friday
Speaker 4: night goes by without issue and it's totally normal. And
Speaker 4: like I just remember, like it was this really hot
Speaker 4: summer and there were cockroaches that would like just cover
Speaker 4: the sidewalks for something. They would never come into the building,
Speaker 4: Like it wasn't like a gross health code thing, but
Speaker 4: like when you came and went, you would like they
Speaker 4: would just be on the sidewalk like basking in the
Speaker 4: heat and it was disgusting, and you know, they'd come
Speaker 4: out at dusk and so you know, I remember coming
Speaker 4: out seeing that. And then when I went back inside
Speaker 4: on Saturday like evening, you know, I went across the
Speaker 4: street to go to four thirty pm Mass because I
Speaker 4: was a good, good faithful little person. And when I
Speaker 4: came back, it was like getting really cloudy, and these
Speaker 4: cockroaches are out and it was just like this dairy
Speaker 4: like kind of like American gothic sort of vibe, you know,
Speaker 4: and a storm was coming in. Yeah, it was, you know,
Speaker 4: it was something.
Speaker 3: It's amazing for a ghost story.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's great, great abiance, you know. But uh yeah,
Speaker 4: so we you know, we like we knew that this
Speaker 4: storm was coming in, so we like gathered up batteries
Speaker 4: and flashlights and stuff because they had these really old
Speaker 4: fuse boxes at this comment where you could like it
Speaker 4: wasn't like the modern breaker boxes where you flip a
Speaker 4: thing back and forth. You had to actually like unscrew
Speaker 4: a fuse off it burned out and like replace it
Speaker 4: with a new one that screwed in its place. So
Speaker 4: we like made sure we knew where the fuses were,
Speaker 4: and we like had all that stuff ready to go,
Speaker 4: and we were just like sort of chilling because like
Speaker 4: the power goes out a lot in this neighborhood especially,
Speaker 4: but we knew it would go out at the convent,
Speaker 4: you know, more than likely. So we're like watching TV
Speaker 4: like trying to get the most out of that before
Speaker 4: the power goes out. And we're sitting at this little
Speaker 4: table in the nun's kitchen like eating dinner, and the
Speaker 4: dogs are like eating their dinner from their bowls on
Speaker 4: the floor like a few feet away, and you know,
Speaker 4: sure enough, like not that long after the storm comes through.
Speaker 4: The power goes out from high winds, and it was
Speaker 4: like this really strong storm, but it was really short,
Speaker 4: so it was over like within less than an hour,
Speaker 4: and we were sitting in this kitchen with our flashlights on.
Speaker 4: We finished our meal, you know, we put the dishes
Speaker 4: in the sank, and it got really really quiet because
Speaker 4: you know, there was no TV background noise, There was
Speaker 4: no you know, it's just one of those things where
Speaker 4: your power goes out, the storm is over, and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden it goes from really noisy outside to
Speaker 4: like just really eerily.
Speaker 3: Quiet, and you and the nun ghosts, me, Me and.
Speaker 4: The nun ghosts and a couple of dogs and my
Speaker 4: brother and and so the biggest dog's name was Sammy.
Speaker 4: And you know, she was this big like kind of
Speaker 4: almost looked like a Rottweil or something, but like a
Speaker 4: real soft rout liler, like real big floppy ears and
Speaker 4: like had that color and that size, but was like
Speaker 4: such a big, like I don't even want to say
Speaker 4: gentle giant, because she was like more scared of anything
Speaker 4: than than the little dogs. But so she like, you know,
Speaker 4: it gets really weird, and she was she was this
Speaker 4: pretty meek dog, and she like all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: in this eerie quiet, she jumped up from like her
Speaker 4: little post meal nap on the floor and she ran
Speaker 4: down the hall from the kitchen and around a corner
Speaker 4: to where the front door of the comment was, which
Speaker 4: is also the front door of the child center. So
Speaker 4: this is where people would bring their kids in every day,
Speaker 4: and it was like the main entry point for the building.
Speaker 4: And you know, again, she's not aggressive at all, So
Speaker 4: she's just barking up a storm, like she is really
Speaker 4: worked up, like acting like a lunatic. And so we're
Speaker 4: kind of surprised by that, but we figured maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: somebody from the parish or something was swinging by to
Speaker 4: like see if the nuns were doing okay with the
Speaker 4: power outage. So we would just get up and be like,
Speaker 4: we're cool, they're not here, So we walk over to
Speaker 4: this front door, we walk down the or we'd go
Speaker 4: into this classroom. The infant room was right across from
Speaker 4: the kitchen, and from the infant room you could kind
Speaker 4: of peek through some curtains without being noticed usually, and
Speaker 4: you could see if someone was on the front stoop,
Speaker 4: and we would do that a lot when we were there,
Speaker 4: because if we didn't feel like like talking to whatever
Speaker 4: random person was there to see the nuns, we would
Speaker 4: just ignore it. So we did that. There's nobody there,
Speaker 4: nobody standing on the front stoop, and so that was weird,
Speaker 4: and we were just like, okay, I guess they left.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, Sammy like paused, turned around,
Speaker 4: like stop barking for a split second, turns around and
Speaker 4: bolts back down the hallway the other direction, kind of
Speaker 4: back towards where the kitchen was, because right next to
Speaker 4: the kitchen door was like this stairwell that went down
Speaker 4: to what we called the trash yard. It was like
Speaker 4: a back kind of sideyard with a bunch of big
Speaker 4: trash cans, and that's where you would go dump all
Speaker 4: the trash, and you know, that's sometimes where you would
Speaker 4: let the dogs out and just they would you know,
Speaker 4: boop out there and you go pick it up. And
Speaker 4: so she's running down there barking all the while. Again
Speaker 4: we're pretty on edge, and my brother said, you know,
Speaker 4: something like, oh, well, maybe she just wants to go outside,
Speaker 4: and we were like, yeah, all right, sure, that's where
Speaker 4: she normally goes out. That seems normal. So just as
Speaker 4: he like hesitantly kind of takes a step to go
Speaker 4: down the first little chunk of the stairways onto the
Speaker 4: landing where the door out to the trash yard was,
Speaker 4: he she turns a gun again, back around, runs back
Speaker 4: to the front door, barking again. So like at this point,
Speaker 4: I'm getting pretty scared, you know, like it's just it's
Speaker 4: very weird. It's like somebody is going very quickly from
Speaker 4: front door to back door outside like messing with us,
Speaker 4: and we don't even but they're not even knocking, they're
Speaker 4: not even doing anything. It's just just only the dog
Speaker 4: can tell that they're.
Speaker 3: There at this point, Did you know that this place
Speaker 3: was haunted or oh yeah that cross your mind, okay.
Speaker 4: For sure, Like but you know, you kind of I
Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know, not like sometimes the non
Speaker 4: supernatural source of of this type of thing is even scary,
Speaker 4: Like sometimes a person being there is scarier than a ghost, right,
Speaker 4: But I think we're kind of hoping it was like
Speaker 4: just people like being friendly maybe, but you know, like
Speaker 4: you it's it's that point where you start to feel
Speaker 4: really kind of uneasy because something's up, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, and it's done.
Speaker 3: I think it was one of the nuns lovers, like
Speaker 3: secret downlow lovers that that's what they would do, is
Speaker 3: like knock on the front door, knock on the back
Speaker 3: door really quietly. Yeah, they have to be really mysterious
Speaker 3: about it. And then they're like, clam, I think she's
Speaker 3: out of town. Like there's yeah, oh that makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense.
Speaker 4: Actually, secret illicit love affair that we didn't know about.
Speaker 4: Our young innocent minds. Couldn't couldn't have you know, figured
Speaker 4: it out. But yeah, so she so she runs back
Speaker 4: to the front door and we're like that's really weird.
Speaker 4: I'm getting scared, my brother's getting scared. We're not really
Speaker 4: talking about how scared we are. We're just kind of
Speaker 4: like reacting to what the dog's doing. And so we both,
Speaker 4: you know, without really speaking, follow her back to the
Speaker 4: front door, and I'm like thinking, we definitely shouldn't split up,
Speaker 4: like we all need to like stay as a cohesive unit.
Speaker 4: I've seen scary movies. I think it must have been
Speaker 4: like ninety six, because I feel like I had seen
Speaker 4: screen by this point, and like that was like fresh
Speaker 4: in my mind. Yeah, and so you know, but this time,
Speaker 4: my brother like goes up and I guess is feeling brave,
Speaker 4: and he puts his eye to the people in the
Speaker 4: front door, and without saying a word, like he pulls
Speaker 4: his head back, and I just knew that no one
Speaker 4: was there again, and so I quickly kind of reached
Speaker 4: forward around him and like made sure that the dead
Speaker 4: bolt was set and that the knob was locked and everything,
Speaker 4: you know, just to you know, get that get that
Speaker 4: box ticked. And then sure enough, like just seconds later,
Speaker 4: Sammy turns around again and runs back down the hall
Speaker 4: towards this trash ark door, and we're running after her
Speaker 4: with our flashlights in her hands, and this time, instead
Speaker 4: of barking at the door, she runs down the landing
Speaker 4: and then so like there's like four or five steps
Speaker 4: and then a little landing and that's where the door
Speaker 4: is that goes outside, and then the steps turn from
Speaker 4: that landing and go down to the basement where there's
Speaker 4: the laundry room and like a boiler room and a
Speaker 4: couple of classrooms. And she stops on this landing, turns
Speaker 4: down toward the basement. There's a gate there because we
Speaker 4: for the kids during when the child centers open, and
Speaker 4: also to keep the dogs so that we know what
Speaker 4: floor they're on when we're not like staying with them.
Speaker 4: So there's this little baby gate that's locked, and she
Speaker 4: can't go down the stairs. But she's just on this
Speaker 4: landing kind of nose to the baby gate, barking down
Speaker 4: the stairs into the basement, and you know, we're like okay,
Speaker 4: and my brother runs down and locks the door to
Speaker 4: the trash yard, you know, make sure that that's locked.
Speaker 4: So we're now pretty sure that like both doors are locked,
Speaker 4: and we feel a little safer. And then we were
Speaker 4: just like, you know, what, fuck this, Like we grabbed
Speaker 4: this big dog and we carried her upstairs to the
Speaker 4: second floor, which is where we would sleep when we
Speaker 4: were there, and we just we brought all the dogs
Speaker 4: up there and we hunkered down on the on the
Speaker 4: little like enclosed porch that we would sleep on, and
Speaker 4: we were like, we're just gonna wait till the power
Speaker 4: comes back on. And you know, we had some newspapers.
Speaker 4: We could put the newspapers down, and we could clean
Speaker 4: up after the dogs the next day, and like dealing
Speaker 4: with whatever that like mess would come of, that seemed
Speaker 4: like easier than dealing with whatever, like whatever the fuck
Speaker 4: was going on at this you know, at these doors.
Speaker 4: So a few hours later, we noticed that the street
Speaker 4: lights come back on, but the power in the building
Speaker 4: is still off, and we we talked about going down
Speaker 4: to check the fuses in the basement, but neither of
Speaker 4: us really wanted to, like we were just like being
Speaker 4: babies about it, and we were like, you know what,
Speaker 4: it's already like two am. The sun will be up
Speaker 4: in a few hours. It's summer. So we decided to
Speaker 4: wait it out and just do it in the daytime,
Speaker 4: and then sure enough, we go down there the next morning,
Speaker 4: Sunday morning, and there's like a blown thirty amp fuse
Speaker 4: in the electric panel, and so we replace it and
Speaker 4: then you know, you flip the master switch back on
Speaker 4: on the breaker and the power comes back on, and
Speaker 4: everything seemed fine, Like everything was totally normal. The next day,
Speaker 4: nothing weird happened at all, and you know, we kind
Speaker 4: of forgot about it. It was just like a normal weekend.
Speaker 4: And then Monday comes along and we're talking to one
Speaker 4: of our coworkers who she lived in the same town
Speaker 4: that the content was located in, and we were just
Speaker 4: kind of talking about the storm and like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was crazy here, Like what happened where you were?
Speaker 4: You know, any trees come down? And she was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we lost power too. So me and my boyfriend just
Speaker 4: decided to go for a drive after the storm was over,
Speaker 4: and we kind of just you know, drove around to
Speaker 4: like look at the trees and like see the damage.
Speaker 4: And she confessed that like they had decided to come
Speaker 4: mess with us while the power was out because she
Speaker 4: knew we were staying there. But she said, after I
Speaker 4: drove by, I saw lights in the basement and I
Speaker 4: felt so bad for you guys that you were down
Speaker 4: there in the dark, probably kind of scared, like trying
Speaker 4: to get the power back on. So we just we
Speaker 4: just left. We drove away, and we left, and so
Speaker 4: like at this moment, like I'm just like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck because we didn't go in the basement, Like nobody
Speaker 4: was in the basement that night, and we very intentionally
Speaker 4: like avoided going in the basement while the power was
Speaker 4: off because it seemed like the dog was like freaking
Speaker 4: out about something in the basement, and so we don't know,
Speaker 4: you know, this is this wasn't the first kind of
Speaker 4: unusual thing that happened there, but like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: I just like kind of looked at my brother and
Speaker 4: we both like looked really like upset and just you know,
Speaker 4: kind of we debriefed about it later, but yeah, so
Speaker 4: we never we don't know if like maybe somebody did
Speaker 4: get in and was in the basement like or or
Speaker 4: if it was just something else, like I don't know,
Speaker 4: like an orb or something whatever, like some some kind
Speaker 4: of ghosts that lit up.
Speaker 3: Going with ghosts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hated it, But I don't know what did.
Speaker 3: Your friends say that like the lights were on or
Speaker 3: they just saw lights?
Speaker 4: She said she saw lights like moving around, which I
Speaker 4: think she sort of had interpreted as us being down
Speaker 4: there with flashlights, you know, like kind of waving lights
Speaker 4: around or something. Seeing movement of lights in the basement
Speaker 4: was the general vibe.
Speaker 3: Oh that was a ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it seems like.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, tell me more, tell me more.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I have I have some more that
Speaker 4: happened there, and then I also have well, yeah, this
Speaker 4: one's pretty short, so that way it won't take up
Speaker 4: too much time. But so one one other summer weekend,
Speaker 4: sister Mary and the other nuns were all going out
Speaker 4: of town for like various different vacations, and so we
Speaker 4: were working there seven days a week over the summer.
Speaker 4: We would work like eight am to six pm. Not
Speaker 4: seven days a week, sorry, five days a week, and
Speaker 4: then we would do our cleaning stuff on the weekends,
Speaker 4: and we were asked to stay there and watch the
Speaker 4: dogs while they were on vacation, and then to like
Speaker 4: do this thing which we would do a few times
Speaker 4: a year where we would like wax all of the
Speaker 4: non carpeted floors, so like all of the linoleum and stuff.
Speaker 4: We'd move all the furniture and refrigerators and stuff and
Speaker 4: put it on the carpeted side of the classroom and
Speaker 4: we would wax the floors and then when it was dry,
Speaker 4: we'd put everything back. And it was just this whole
Speaker 4: whole thing that took a couple of days and you
Speaker 4: couldn't do it when there were kids there, so we
Speaker 4: would do it on the weekend, and you know, it
Speaker 4: was it was cool because we were going to stay
Speaker 4: there for a couple weeks, like while these nuns were
Speaker 4: on vacation. I think it was like two weeks or something.
Speaker 4: And it you know, there was no like commute, like
Speaker 4: you'd wake up at work, you walk down the stairs,
Speaker 4: you're at work, and like you know, and then at
Speaker 4: night you get your extra work done while like feasting
Speaker 4: on instant mac and cheese and like stealing the nuns
Speaker 4: booze and like it was cool, you know, so like
Speaker 4: it wasn't a bad a bad setup. And so we
Speaker 4: like waited to do the waxing until like one of
Speaker 4: the last I think it was like the last two
Speaker 4: nights that we were there, like the last weekend we
Speaker 4: were there or something. So we waited till last minute,
Speaker 4: and we really had to move, like everything in every
Speaker 4: room all at the same time, which congratulations. I feel
Speaker 4: like they just want some golden globes everywhere, everything everywhere,
Speaker 4: all at once.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, total total tangent. But yeah, we're so we're down there,
Speaker 4: we're trying to move all this stuff, and there's like
Speaker 4: there's this one classroom that's closer to one end of
Speaker 4: the hallway and it was called like the Butterfly Room,
Speaker 4: and then it was attached to another classroom that went
Speaker 4: out to the back playyard that was called the Clown Room.
Speaker 4: And then towards like the other side of the building
Speaker 4: there's a classroom called the Turtle Room, and that was
Speaker 4: closer to the front door and closer to like the
Speaker 4: offices and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Were they like decorated like these things not.
Speaker 4: At all, not at all. It was like literally just
Speaker 4: to have some kind of label for them, you know,
Speaker 4: like yeah, there was almost I don't think any yeah,
Speaker 4: any thematic decorations. But so yeah, we're like moving stuff around.
Speaker 4: We started on those two back rooms like near the yard,
Speaker 4: the Butterfly Room in the Clown Room, and we're moving
Speaker 4: the stuff off, and then the Turtle Room like has
Speaker 4: more stuff. It's a bigger room it was like for
Speaker 4: the oldest kids. And so we like teamed up to
Speaker 4: do that one together, like so that we could move
Speaker 4: stuff together. And as we're moving furniture from the linoleum
Speaker 4: floor where they would do snack time and stuff to
Speaker 4: the carpeted side of the room where most of the
Speaker 4: toys were like on shelves and books and stuff, there
Speaker 4: was this little toy barbie phone on one of the
Speaker 4: shelves and it started to ring and we were like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know, like kind of you know, when it's quiet
Speaker 4: and you don't expect to hear something, it kind of
Speaker 4: startles you, no matter how benigna it is. So we
Speaker 4: like are like, oh damn, like we must have bumped
Speaker 4: into it, or like maybe when we put down like
Speaker 4: the refrigerator, you know, like the bang like made the
Speaker 4: set it off or whatever. And so we just get
Speaker 4: back to work and we're moving more stuff and like,
Speaker 4: you know, there was like this big water cooler that
Speaker 4: we had to move and it goes off again, and
Speaker 4: we're just kind of like what the fuck, man, Like,
Speaker 4: what's that? What's going on? So my brother goes over
Speaker 4: to the shelf and like picks this toy up, this
Speaker 4: toy phone, and he held the fake receiver to his
Speaker 4: ear and he paused, and he was like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think it's broken. It's just making like there's just a
Speaker 4: bunch of static coming out of the receiver. And I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, it's supposed to like talk when you
Speaker 4: pick it up and push a button. So maybe the
Speaker 4: batteries are just crapping out and that's why it's, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of glitching and you're not getting this delightful conversation
Speaker 4: with Barbie, like you're just getting weird white noise. And
Speaker 4: so he sets it back down. We moved a few
Speaker 4: more things, and then a few more minutes later, this
Speaker 4: toy phone rings again. And so my brother at this
Speaker 4: point is just like fuck this, Like I'm tired of
Speaker 4: this shit, you know, like we want to get this
Speaker 4: stuff done, and we're just like, I don't know. We
Speaker 4: we both grew up again in this very Catholic sort
Speaker 4: of setting and community, and my parents are very Catholic.
Speaker 4: My mom is is you know, Latina, and like so
Speaker 4: like she was always telling us like crazy stories about
Speaker 4: like demons and ghosts from her childhood and like family lore,
Speaker 4: and so like we just you know, we're kind of
Speaker 4: like primed for that, I think, and we were like
Speaker 4: fuck this, like let's just let's let's cut the shit.
Speaker 4: So he takes the barbie phone, goes and finds a
Speaker 4: little screwdriver or whatever so that he can take the
Speaker 4: batteries out. So he takes it down the hall to
Speaker 4: this like supply cubby room between the butterfly room and
Speaker 4: the clown room. That's where he's able to find a screwdriver,
Speaker 4: takes it out and you know, leaves it in there
Speaker 4: and comes back and starts to help me again in
Speaker 4: the turtle room down the opposite end of the hall.
Speaker 4: So I'm moving furniture. I'm waiting for him to come back,
Speaker 4: and then he took takes the you know, batteries out.
Speaker 4: He comes back, shows me the batteries, and we're like cool,
Speaker 4: all right, good, We just we're back to work. We're
Speaker 4: doing our thing, you know, eating pizza and moving furniture.
Speaker 4: And he starts sweeping the floor and I'm about to
Speaker 4: run down to the basement to get waxing supplies, and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden we hear it, like very faintly,
Speaker 4: because it was way down the hall, this barbie phone
Speaker 4: is ringing again, and like we're both kind of like wait, yeah,
Speaker 4: because it's not the real phone, Like the real phones
Speaker 4: were all you know, it was was all landline, so
Speaker 4: like every phone in the place would ring it once
Speaker 4: and you could hear it really loudly everywhere. So it
Speaker 4: wasn't that, like we knew. It was this stupid toy
Speaker 4: phone that now didn't have batteries in it. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: I thought you took them out, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I did, and you know again shows me these batteries
Speaker 4: from his back pocket. And so we kind of stood
Speaker 4: there for a minute and just you know, kind of
Speaker 4: reacted to it, and then kind of came to this
Speaker 4: teenage boy conclusion that like we need to get this
Speaker 4: thing out of here, and he like ran and grabbed
Speaker 4: the phone and we took it out to the trash
Speaker 4: yard and we threw it in a trash can and
Speaker 4: like just left it at that and never heard of it,
Speaker 4: you know, never heard from it again, never told anyone
Speaker 4: that we got rid of it, and that was that
Speaker 4: was that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, probably it was somebody trying to talk to you.
Speaker 3: It's probably like you missed the spot.
Speaker 4: You're doing a bad job.
Speaker 3: Yeah you waited till the last minute. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: this place sounds really cool.
Speaker 4: It was. It was cool. Like we found like this
Speaker 4: weird underground crawl space that you could access through a
Speaker 4: panel in the wall of one of the downstairs classrooms
Speaker 4: that we called the World Beneath, and like you would
Speaker 4: find like old newspapers and like old soda cans in there,
Speaker 4: and we're like, is somebody hanging out here or is
Speaker 4: this just like when when was this stuff deposited here?
Speaker 3: Because there's no way that's the nuns. The nuns are
Speaker 3: doing some Yes, did you hear about those nuns that
Speaker 3: like stole a bunch of money and went gambling a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: No, but that sounds cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good for them, unless they stole the money from
Speaker 4: the less fortunate, in which case.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But if they just took it from what I think
Speaker 4: they did the church, you know, like they have all
Speaker 4: those nice things, they could afford it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much to Demi, Helen and Daniel. Again,
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