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Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly.

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Speaker 2: Day twelve is in the books. We got a jam

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Speaker 2: pack show.

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Speaker 1: Interviews from this past week include Jeremy Fowler, ESPN, Adam Kaplan,

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Speaker 1: and actor host and super fan Jerry O'Connell. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with NFL Networks in Rapaport National Insider And

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Speaker 1: it's always a big deal when you're a camp man.

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Speaker 1: How's your training camp?

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Speaker 3: For Ben, it's a big deal for me, honestly to

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Speaker 3: be at a camp. I mean, it has been everything

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Speaker 3: I'd hoped and it's not just you know, the ability

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Speaker 3: to come out here, and I got to meet Brendon

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Speaker 3: Steer for the first time. That is something that last

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Speaker 3: year was just not possible.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I got to meet Ronaldo Hill for the first time.

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Speaker 3: These are like important as far as just me understanding

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Speaker 3: what a team is trying to do, how they get

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Speaker 3: from where they were last year to this year, and

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Speaker 3: just knowing what it's going to be like and being

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Speaker 3: able to come out watch practice. I thought, practice Sale

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Speaker 3: looks really good. It's so much better than last year.

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Speaker 3: And I'm incredibly thankful that the world has changed at

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Speaker 3: least just enough to get me out on the training

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Speaker 3: camp fields exactly.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things for you too, Like

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Speaker 1: you've observed this team from afar throughout this offseason and

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Speaker 1: so many changes with the coaching staff, obviously justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: in year two, you got Derwin coming back and parent

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Speaker 1: who with Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on.

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Speaker 1: The Charges and kind of how things shook out for

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Speaker 1: them this offseason and then coming here being able to

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Speaker 1: talk to some of these people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard for me to imagine the

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Speaker 3: Chargers having a better offseason and it's really incredible. So like,

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Speaker 3: let's say take the Chargers now, right, they got a

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Speaker 3: first year head coach who everybody is expecting really big

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Speaker 3: things from and you know, I mean around the league.

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Speaker 3: His reputation happened really fast, and he's young. Everyone knows that,

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Speaker 3: but just as far as a football guy, everyone could

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Speaker 3: not speak more highway of him. So that's, you know,

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Speaker 3: a coach that's kind of ready.

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Speaker 1: And when did you start to hear his name, because

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Speaker 1: you know, I think when he went to the Rams,

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Speaker 1: people were like, oh, Brandon Staley, that's an interesting.

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Speaker 3: High right, number one defense I had honestly, I'd barely

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Speaker 3: heard of him. I mean, I knew who he was,

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Speaker 3: but when he got like I actually I got a tip,

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Speaker 3: it was like it was like a weird time. I

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Speaker 3: forget when it was when the Rams hired him, and

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Speaker 3: I think it I broke it when they were actually

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Speaker 3: at dinner with him when he was being hired by

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Speaker 3: the Rams, and I had to look him up, like

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Speaker 3: is this the guy I think he was in Denver?

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Speaker 2: Like this is Chicago. He's the only thing for a

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Speaker 3: And so for me, you asked about when I knew

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Speaker 3: last year about November. I had never spoken to him,

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Speaker 3: but I knew that he was going to be a

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Speaker 3: head coach candidate. So actually reached out to him when

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Speaker 3: he was with the Rams, and I was like, we've

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Speaker 3: never met. Can we talk because I'm gonna have people

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Speaker 3: asking about and I'm gonna have to talk about you

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Speaker 3: on TV in December and I don't know anything about you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So we like talked for probably you know, forty five minutes.

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Speaker 3: I think he was in the supermarket buying food to

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Speaker 3: for like how he values teaching and learning and how

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Speaker 3: collaborative he is, and how smart he is, and like

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Speaker 3: just to understand him. And I'm sure he thought I

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Speaker 3: was crazy in November, but like you could already feel

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Speaker 3: the buzz then, like he was he was a pretty

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Speaker 3: hot candidate. All happened so quick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you know, you look at the situation

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Speaker 1: he's placed into with Justin Herbert in his second season.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised by the way Justin played last year

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Speaker 1: then also just how the season ended, and now kind

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Speaker 1: of this slow build of hype coming into this upcoming season.

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Speaker 1: I think expectations have kind of been set by such

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Speaker 1: an amazing rookie season.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I mean it's you know, it's it's

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a complicated offense. He's learning and working

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Speaker 3: of what he did last year, right, I Mean, he

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Speaker 3: that kind of year, and all that is fine, but

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Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like the team, not just him,

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Speaker 3: to be their starting quarterback while the ball was being

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Speaker 4: Anything like that.

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Speaker 2: They first gave it so far for the choice.

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Speaker 3: Right, and he walks out there having gotten no reps,

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Speaker 3: with no preparation and was an absolute baller. I think

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Speaker 3: for a touchdown drive. And I'm like, and at that point,

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Speaker 3: we didn't really know what had happened to Tyrod, so

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Speaker 3: I was kind of like, did they spring a secret

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Speaker 3: I will never forget that, because, you know, I see

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Speaker 3: all the time, and I'm sure you guys see it too,

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Speaker 3: a really good player who practices well, who has great tools,

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Speaker 3: has great athleticism, and they get out them to the

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Speaker 3: big stage and it looks different.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's like Nick Sable would always say, you don't know

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Speaker 3: anything about a player to the lights come on. Well,

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Speaker 3: the lights were very much on then and Herbert was

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Speaker 3: amazing and it was all incredible. So like everything he

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Speaker 3: did last year to me, pales in comparison to how

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Speaker 3: even keeled he was and it wasn't too big for

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Speaker 1: This year, you know, you see the return of Derwin James.

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Speaker 1: We just had him miked up this weekend and it

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Speaker 1: just the energy gets cranked up around him. He just

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Speaker 1: he brings this infectiousness to all three phases of the

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Speaker 1: team in league circles. It's like you haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: much the past two years. But how is he valued

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Speaker 1: in terms of like one hundred percent Derwin James? How

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Speaker 1: game changing can he be? And how do people run

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, let's let's assume knock on wood that

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Speaker 3: he is healthy. If that is the case, And first

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Speaker 3: of all, he sounds like he's been as explosive this

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Speaker 3: and we don't spend a lot of time talking about safeties.

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Speaker 3: We really don't. I mean unless it's Jamal Adams and

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Speaker 3: his contract situation, Like we in the media don't spend like, hey,

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Speaker 3: let's break down the safety position. Derwin is a little

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Speaker 3: his status among the upper echelon of defensive players is

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Speaker 3: he's so dynamic and disruptive. And I was talking to

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Speaker 3: Staley just a couple of minutes ago, like where's Derby

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Speaker 3: gonna play? He's like everywhere, everywhere? Yeah, which is incredible,

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Speaker 3: and that's a real weapon if he stays healthy. You

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Speaker 3: know you're looking at defensive player of the year kind

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Speaker 1: I know you're busy. I'll get you out here on this.

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Speaker 1: The AFC, the landscape of the AFC, not just the West.

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Speaker 1: We know the chiefs of the team to be right now,

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Speaker 1: but as you look at Buffalo, Baltimore, Cleveland, you know

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Speaker 1: of teams. Really, where do you see the Chargers kind

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Speaker 1: of fitting into that pecking order. Can they challenge case?

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Speaker 1: Can they snag one of those wildcard spots this upcoming season?

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Speaker 3: I don't see why not. I mean talent wise, Like

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Speaker 3: you know, if you think about the way the Chargers

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Speaker 3: are set up, and I'm not saying they're going to

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Speaker 3: go win twelve games this year, I think it's actually possible,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not saying they're definitely going to. But look

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Speaker 3: at what Look at the foundation. You got a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: You got a left tackle who has played zero snaps.

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Speaker 3: I get it, but should be very good. And you

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Speaker 3: know you can. I mean, you know, like you could

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Speaker 3: of your life for a left tackle. There's been times

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Speaker 3: when the Charges of not had one.

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Speaker 2: And it has been tough.

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Speaker 3: You got that, You got some really key pieces. You

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Speaker 3: that's completely rebuilt, a running back in Austin Eckler, who

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's going to look like, but

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Speaker 3: in my head I see Kamara right especially in this offense.

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Speaker 3: So like that's a lot. That's a lot of good things.

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Speaker 3: Stay healthy, Like I do think this team should be

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Speaker 3: able to compete with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: I really do.

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Speaker 1: Staying healthy. That's been the biggest thing with this team.

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Speaker 1: Just a few years ago, twelve wins. Derwo James had

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Speaker 1: a lot to do with that in his rookie year.

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Speaker 1: So when you have Joey Derwin, hopefully Kenneth Murray, Drew Tranquill,

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Speaker 1: with that new offensive line, it could be interesting. Ian Rapaport, Man,

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Speaker 1: it's always fun to see on TV. It's it's better

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Speaker 1: to see you in person. Appreciate you stopping by.

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Speaker 3: It's better to be in person. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Buddy? I.

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Speaker 4: I became a Chargers fan when I moved to Los

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Speaker 4: Angeles in two thousand. The Chargers were the only NFL

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Speaker 4: I became a season ticket holder, and uh loved doing

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Speaker 4: the drive, love going down, even made it through Raiders

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Speaker 2: Tell the town, were you able to get there?

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Speaker 4: I was able to get there, and I survived the

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Speaker 4: lock to my seats.

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Speaker 5: But uh, yeah, I've been a Chargers fan, man, So

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Speaker 5: that was like the breeze.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, it was breeze for a little bit, but

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Speaker 4: then Philip Rivers came in. I was there for the

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Speaker 4: whole LT era. I was there at that nightmarish game.

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Speaker 4: We're not even going to talk about it when really

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Speaker 4: I know, but I was at that game. And I

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Speaker 4: let's go talk to some fans. And I got to

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Speaker 4: come to practice. This is my first practice of any

443
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Speaker 4: NFL team, any Chargers practice.

444
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Speaker 5: You know, it does feel good.

445
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 4: It feels like you get insight, you know. I mean,

446
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Speaker 4: I listened to the podcast I listened to not to

447
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 4: talk about other podcasts. I listened to other Chargers podcasts

448
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: as well.

449
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: Talk about we all love we all love the podcast community,

450
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Speaker 1: you know.

451
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Speaker 5: I listened to I got to give a shout out

452
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Speaker 5: to lockd On, you know, I.

453
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Speaker 3: Uh, I.

454
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Speaker 4: It's good to come here and see it's also fun

455
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 4: to come here and see the player's irl, you know.

456
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I just unfroze my twenty four hour fitness

457
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 4: membership seeing these guys out here.

458
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 5: They're huge. I mean, it really is like seeing your heroes.

459
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 5: You know. They're just big people.

460
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna, you know, get out the old perfect

461
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 4: push up machine from my closet. I'm gonna next time

462
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: you see me, I'm gonna be jacked. I Am gonna

463
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Speaker 4: go get a metres bar on the way home, maybe

464
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Speaker 4: a throwing a tiger's milk, and uh, I'm gonna be

465
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Speaker 4: jack next time you see me. No, it's it's just

466
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: fun to see the people I play every weekend as well,

467
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 4: and all of my fantasy lineups. It's fun to see,

468
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 4: you know, Austin, you know trying to find creases in

469
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 4: real life. It's it's exciting to be here and again

470
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 4: real feeling of optimism about this team.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's one of those things where we get

472
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Speaker 1: to training camp and you're watching practices and we know

473
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: the real games aren't here yet, but you're right, Like

474
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: just seeing Austin run through creases.

475
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Speaker 2: Here, yeah, it gives you. It gives you just that that.

476
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 4: You know what, Also you get a little more insight

477
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 4: coming to practice, you know, uh, seeing coach Lombardi here,

478
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's not only an honor because

479
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 4: he's such an accomplished coach, but also the legacy that

480
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 4: he represents. You know, it's it's it's exciting. It's an

481
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 4: exciting time to be a Chargers fan.

482
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Speaker 2: There's no question about going to space. We're going to

483
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Richard Branson in the Bowl.

484
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Speaker 4: Everybody else's going down and we're going up.

485
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Speaker 1: I have to ask you a personal question for myself.

486
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Speaker 2: You have twin girls.

487
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm having twin girls next month.

488
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Speaker 6: Wow.

489
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Speaker 1: I need just one piece of advice you can give

490
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Speaker 1: me because they're they're due around mahomes Herbert Kansas City Week.

491
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Speaker 4: Wow. Wow wow wow wow wow wow well, first of all,

492
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 4: you're gonna be probably hopefully in a hospital or a

493
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 4: delivery room, watching on your phone the the game. Any

494
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 4: piece of advice, this is gonna be a little dark.

495
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: This piece of advice as the father of twins. But

496
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Speaker 4: it's so tough having twins because it's so much work.

497
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Speaker 5: You know, it's crazy. I mean, having a baby is crazy.

498
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Speaker 4: Having two at the same time is you can't even

499
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Speaker 4: describe how crazy it is. Try and try and stay married,

500
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Speaker 4: like the first three years, because there's gonna be a

501
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Speaker 4: lot of times where you and your spouse are going

502
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Speaker 4: to be.

503
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Speaker 6: Like, I didn't ask for this. I didn't want this.

504
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Speaker 6: You think I want this. I didn't want this either.

505
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Speaker 6: I'm out of here, Like I kind of diggle with you,

506
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Speaker 6: I'm gone And if you can go to the game,

507
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Speaker 6: I'm going to game. This isn't the two arms of

508
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Speaker 6: the filter in the unoffoult.

509
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Speaker 5: Let mess this.

510
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Speaker 4: Just try and try and stay together because it does

511
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Speaker 4: get easier.

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Speaker 5: You know.

513
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Speaker 4: Now my kids are twelve, I'm able to sit down

514
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Speaker 4: and watch a Chargers game with them.

515
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Speaker 5: I be able to bring them to Sofi stadiums. I can't.

516
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 5: This is such a difficult. This is such a difficult thing.

517
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Speaker 4: I have a daughter who is a huge She always

518
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 4: dressed up as like a She loved cowgirls and like

519
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: remember woodies and toy stories. Friend, I forget her name,

520
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: but she wore the cowboy hat and all that stuff.

521
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Speaker 4: Oh man, she's a fan. And this is not from me,

522
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: but I think just because of the star and all

523
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 4: that stuff, she is weirdly a Cowboys fan.

524
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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow.

525
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Speaker 5: So I have not talked to her in six years.

526
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 5: She's only twelve, and she's.

527
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Speaker 4: Like, Daddy, won't you talk to me? And we go

528
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Speaker 4: to therapy and I'm like, I don't talk to you, honey.

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Speaker 1: You know that we know she's not getting a ticket too.

530
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Speaker 4: We know that my wife brought her to a number

531
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Speaker 4: of Chargers games when they played in a different city,

532
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: and my wife got into the Chargers for a little bit.

533
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: We did go to one This is a safe space

534
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: this podcast. We did go to one game, my wife

535
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: and I and it was a team against one of

536
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 4: our rivals in our division. The team team's names rhymes

537
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 4: with Raiders and an argument. I felt very safe at

538
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 4: Jack Murphy whatever they called it, Qualcom.

539
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 5: I felt very safe there.

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Speaker 4: Again, I said, Chargers fans are the best, We're the

541
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Speaker 4: most laid back.

542
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Speaker 5: Were the yacht RockA fan of fans.

543
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Speaker 4: But an altercation did break out near us in the

544
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Speaker 4: stands and my wife said, I'm and I My wife

545
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: said that that's it for me, and I said, honey, this.

546
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Speaker 5: Is not us. This was a different fan base that

547
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 5: was here. This is not who the Chargers are.

548
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: We are the yacht Rock, We are thech We would

549
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 4: never do that. Charger stands would never do that. But

550
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 4: you know what, now that we're at so far, I'm

551
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: definitely gonna get my wife.

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Speaker 2: Back back to a Charger percent right.

553
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: My wife was really into Justin's hair. She digs dudes.

554
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 5: My wife is a California girl from northern California.

555
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: The wall hair, not the not the buzz cut.

556
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Speaker 5: Not the buzz cut.

557
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: That was a little that was a little jarring when

558
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: that happened last season. It just goes to show you,

559
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: as a Charger, say to me the most Like two

560
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 4: of the most jarring things to happen last season were

561
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 4: Eckler getting injured, which was troublesome and jarring for your

562
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: face and uh and Justin cutting's hair that was just

563
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Speaker 4: a shocker for all of us didn't.

564
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Speaker 5: Affect his game.

565
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Speaker 4: I was a little worried there was going to be

566
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Speaker 4: a Samson effect possibly, but that didn't happen, and uh,

567
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Speaker 4: I'm willing to accept justin however he wishes to wear

568
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 4: his hair. I'm just happy he's here, and I'm really

569
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Speaker 4: happy that he's ours.

570
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: One hundred percent the hairs back and good. It's it's

571
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: looking good out here. Jack Avis sports coup.

572
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Speaker 4: I grew mine out a little bit in honor of

573
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Speaker 4: our quarterback, but I have a day job now and.

574
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Speaker 2: They like it to be a little tighter on a

575
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Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit high tight.

576
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Speaker 7: Jerry.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Jerry O'Connell, co host of the Talk Coast of

578
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 8: the Talk in the CBS family, you can watch Bolts

579
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Speaker 8: on two.

580
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Speaker 5: Excited for this season. A lot of on too, right, Yeah,

581
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 5: we're gonna do some fun stuff.

582
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna goop around with the legend Jim Hill, legendary

583
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: sportscaster at a CBS.

584
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: So so we're gonna have some fun. I'm looking forward

585
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Speaker 5: to it.

586
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming out, man, Appreciate you guys.

587
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: Good luck with the babies.

588
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 5: Man, that's a lot of fun.

589
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for As we roll on here at Chargers training camp.

590
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: Here with NFL insider Adam Kaplan. It's almost like a

591
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: annual July August tradition. We see Jack Hammitt Sports Complex.

592
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, man.

593
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: How are you.

594
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 5: I'm good.

595
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 7: I'm good to see really good to see you guys here.

596
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 7: It's uh, look, it's a relief not being here.

597
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: Last year.

598
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 7: I was telling uh, John spoundles Brook broke my heart

599
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 7: not to be able to travel. I mean I did locally,

600
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 7: I did the Ravens and Eagles, but it wasn't the same.

601
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 7: I love traveling the country. Flying doesn't really bother me. Yeah,

602
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 7: I'm just glad i'd be out here.

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00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: Believe me.

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00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 7: It's certainly been challenging with the COVID protocols, and I

605
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 7: certainly understand it. But I'm just so glad to h

606
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 7: to be on the road and seeing seeing teams and

607
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Speaker 7: the Chargers.

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00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 5: For sure.

609
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: Before we get into the Chargers, what stops have you

610
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: been at to this point?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so Washington, last week in Richmond, Virginia. Well that's

612
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Speaker 7: important for a week one for the traite you guys

613
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Speaker 7: have them, yeah, yeah, uh, and then week the second

614
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 7: day it was actually the Steelers, then the Eagles, then

615
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 7: the Browns earlier this week, and the you guys yesterday,

616
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 7: the Rams and then you guys, and then the Rams

617
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 7: and Cowboys today, and look, it's just kind of the

618
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Speaker 7: Western Swing. The only thing I'm not doing right now,

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Speaker 7: depending on whether what happens later this month, is I

620
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 7: haven't done the the Niners or Raiders. I want to

621
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 7: do though, see those teams, but I we'll just see

622
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Speaker 7: you on travel. But I remember being here for the

623
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Speaker 7: Saints and Chargers. That was a great joint practice.

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Speaker 1: I love those Yeah, the Charger is getting some good

625
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Speaker 1: working with the forty nine ers on the nineteenth and

626
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Speaker 1: twentieth right here in Coasta, Mesa.

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Speaker 2: I asked Peter King this, I want to ask you

628
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: the same thing.

629
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Speaker 1: Yeah, your impressions of the Chargers coming into this camp

630
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: and you know what you've seen here so far.

631
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Speaker 2: It's funny.

632
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 7: I'm in some of these preseason polls and I had

633
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 7: to sort of turn in my early idea.

634
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 2: I picked the Chargers to be it's so weird to

635
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: say this ten and seven.

636
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 5: It's weird.

637
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 7: I just can't get think of this. I don't think

638
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 7: it's going to screw it. Usually I say sixteen games

639
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 7: but I've been more cognizant of it. I just you know,

640
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 7: coming in, I thought it was a good roster. Defensively,

641
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 7: they're deeper than they were last year. Offensively. You and

642
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 7: I talked before during practice about the offensive line changes,

643
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 7: and they were needed. There's no question the offensive line

644
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 7: was a challenge last year. And I think you know,

645
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 7: Tom Telesco going to staff, done a really nice job

646
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 7: of identifying the issues. I remember John Lynch telling me

647
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 7: he's got in his office and Kasha and John subscribed

648
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 7: to this, you cannot fix every issue in one off season.

649
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: That's true.

650
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 7: He actually has it laminated. And the Chargers had some

651
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 7: challenges obviously with the roster. They had an address and

652
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 7: they've done that. They've they've done a really good job

653
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 7: and that's why they're going to be very competitive. And

654
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 7: I love that is John Spantas was telling me that,

655
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 7: you know, the season ticket sales are terrific.

656
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: I love it. They're in so far. It's great.

657
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 7: I mean, this is this is what you want to

658
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 7: have happening. You've got a new coaching staff, there's a

659
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 7: new energy, it's all positive.

660
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: It's it's it's a good thing. It starts with quarterback.

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00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, when you know you have your franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: a lot of other things can fall into place. And

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Speaker 1: you talked about the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yes, four new.

665
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Speaker 1: Starters, but you look at the quality of the starters,

666
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Speaker 1: right Rashaun Slater thirteen overall, Matt Feiler a part of

667
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Speaker 1: those offensive lines in Pittsburgh. I don't think Matt file

668
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Speaker 1: has ever had a losing season. Corey Linsley of course,

669
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Speaker 1: Odeo Bushie who played well for the Lions last year,

670
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Speaker 1: and then and then Brian Bulaga. I think it's gonna

671
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Speaker 1: really help justin not only in the passing game, but

672
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Speaker 1: really trying to open up holes for Eckler, Jackson, Kelly

673
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Speaker 1: whomever is back there in coordination with Austin.

674
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Speaker 2: Look, they've upgraded significantly.

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously there are a lot of changes and

676
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Speaker 7: sometimes you need a little time to work together. But

677
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Speaker 7: if you just look at it and then you know,

678
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Speaker 7: you see Storm Norton, a guy not a lot of

679
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Speaker 7: people know about who was filling in today, right tackle,

680
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Speaker 7: A guy that I remember one of those was at

681
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Speaker 7: AF or some AF or something like that. Yeah, he

682
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Speaker 7: was he was XFL I think or XFL. I know,

683
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Speaker 7: finding guys like that who could who could fill in?

684
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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a really good fine for them.

685
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Speaker 7: But Bloga is a veteran. You look, you said, a

686
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Speaker 7: bushie who's been around the league for a while with

687
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Speaker 7: a couple of teams here. But the big score is Lensley,

688
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Speaker 7: who I remember I was gonna report that he's gonna

689
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Speaker 7: sign with the Cardinals and then the Cardinals got.

690
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Speaker 2: Beaten out by the Chargers to bring him in here.

691
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Speaker 2: That that was a great that's a great sign up

692
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Speaker 2: for them.

693
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Speaker 7: And Rashaan Slater, one of the highest graded offensive linemen

694
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Speaker 7: in the NFL, I mean for the NFL Draft, could

695
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Speaker 7: have played really four positions, so they're going to play

696
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Speaker 7: him at left tackle. He's a really smart kid and

697
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Speaker 7: pretty good athlete. So you're right, they've they've pretty much

698
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Speaker 7: addressed all that you can address.

699
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Speaker 2: So, Rashaun Slater, you were at Washington Camp West, Yes,

700
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Speaker 2: how about this? To prepare for Chase.

701
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Speaker 1: Young, you get Joey Bose every day in practice, you

702
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Speaker 1: get Nick Bosa come in in a couple of weeks,

703
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Speaker 1: and then Chase Young week one, and that'll be that

704
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Speaker 1: that two point zero matchup that we all saw in

705
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Speaker 1: Northwestern Ohio State really the game that kind of put

706
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Speaker 1: him on the map. But I'm I really am fascinated

707
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Speaker 1: to see how this offensive line is going to come together,

708
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Speaker 1: especially with such a testing Week one. You talking about

709
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Speaker 1: probably the best defensive line of football. It is, and

710
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Speaker 1: they're young and they're only going to get better. You know,

711
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Speaker 1: obviously this year more than work together, and it's going

712
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Speaker 1: to be challenging. Look, there's no question the offensive coach

713
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Speaker 1: is Joe Lombardi. Namely, who's the coordinator. You know, you

714
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Speaker 1: go in confidence, you never go and think they won't work,

715
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Speaker 1: but you have to. You know, you see what you

716
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Speaker 1: see on tape. As you said, you know they're going

717
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Speaker 1: to bring it and it's going to be a challenging.

718
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Speaker 1: But it is a significant challenge Week one against Washington,

719
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Speaker 1: Washington's you know, I spent a day there watching them,

720
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Speaker 1: and on Richmond Virginia.

721
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Speaker 2: They've they've they're very, very gifted.

722
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Speaker 7: Obviously, the big questions who's at quarterback, whether Ryan Fitzpatrick

723
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Speaker 7: for seventeen games could.

724
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Speaker 2: Lead them to the playoffs.

725
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Speaker 1: Defensively, it's always nine seeing number thirty three flying around.

726
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Speaker 2: You were here yesterday.

727
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Speaker 1: Watching him and Keenan Allen go one on one It

728
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Speaker 1: just makes you realize Derwin could essentially play every single.

729
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Speaker 7: Position on the defensive side of what's a pretty cool

730
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Speaker 7: player talking about right that was he cut the playoff.

731
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Speaker 7: He saw it and he diagnosed it, and it's boy,

732
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Speaker 7: it's already a social media sensation.

733
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Speaker 5: It's really cool.

734
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Speaker 2: I said this on Twitter.

735
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Speaker 7: It's rare that you're there for a big play in

736
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Speaker 7: practice that gets put on social media. It's pretty cool

737
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 7: to see that this is a very underrated defense. This

738
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Speaker 7: is they're very, very gifted. Brandon Staley brings in his

739
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Speaker 7: scheme here, no question about it a little bit different

740
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Speaker 7: than Gus Bradley's defense. But I look forward to seeing

741
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Speaker 7: how not only how Darren James does and Chris Harris

742
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Speaker 7: and Santi Samuel Jr. Doing this defense, and look all

743
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,959
Speaker 7: the new talent they've had it. There's no questions gonna

744
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 7: be fun AFC.

745
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Speaker 2: At the landscape of the AFC, I'm not just talking

746
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Speaker 2: about the West. Obviously.

747
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Speaker 1: We know the Chiefs, Broncos have a pretty loaded rosters.

748
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Speaker 1: Some questions their quarterback. We talked about the Raiders. We'll

749
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: see they've made a lot of moves this offseason. We'll

750
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Speaker 1: see how that kind of comes together. But outside of

751
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: the West, you know, you're talking about just making playoffs.

752
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: You still got Buffalo, you got Cleveland, you got Baltimore,

753
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Speaker 1: you got Pittsburgh, you got Indie, Tennessee. I mean, there's

754
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams, the Patriots. How do you see

755
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: the Chargers kind of stacking up in the conference, not

756
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Speaker 1: just the West.

757
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Speaker 7: It's it's almost harder to believe. I'm going to say this,

758
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 7: but Cleveland I think is an upper echelon team. I

759
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 7: spent two days with them. Their roster is so much

760
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Speaker 7: better than it was at this time last.

761
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Speaker 2: Year figuring it out. They get the formula now.

762
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Speaker 7: Well they do, and they're What's big for Baker Mayfield

763
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Speaker 7: for the first time in his career, He's going to

764
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Speaker 7: be coaching with the same staff two years in a row.

765
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Speaker 2: That's going to help him get continuity going. He had

766
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Speaker 2: it really a good year under.

767
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Speaker 7: Kevin Stefanski last year, the head coach who also calls,

768
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Speaker 7: who will call the players, and uh, Kevin and Baker

769
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Speaker 7: Mayfield have developed a really good working relationship. It's a

770
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Speaker 7: good They're a good football team. They're another one kind

771
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Speaker 7: of like the Charger where you look at and go

772
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Speaker 7: I don't see very many weaknesses. They're they're they're they're

773
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Speaker 7: well schooled. Their front office is really good. Andrew Berry's

774
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 7: done a really good job of addressing some of the

775
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Speaker 7: needs in the off season. And I mean, it's it's

776
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Speaker 7: just it's just weird going to the Browns where they're

777
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Speaker 7: actually the real expectations, not manufactured by the media. Two

778
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 7: years ago, I was there with Freddy Kitchens and I'm like,

779
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 7: they're nowhere near the the the hype this year.

780
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Speaker 2: Look and the fans was talking to media there. That

781
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 2: gets the fans are going out of their mind because

782
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Speaker 2: they have actual expectations.

783
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Speaker 1: It's kind of cool, Cleveland. It's fun when you have

784
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Speaker 1: a when you have fan base like that. So it's

785
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Speaker 1: always fun when teams like that are in the mix.

786
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Speaker 1: It is.

787
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Speaker 2: It's great for the league, sure, but.

788
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Speaker 1: They you said ten and seven for the charges that

789
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Speaker 1: enough you think sneak in is.

790
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Speaker 7: A wild card. It's a good question. You did a

791
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 7: good job of covering all those teams. They're they're like

792
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Speaker 7: eight or nine legitimate playoff teams in the AFC. I mean,

793
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Speaker 7: some years the AFC is not quite as good as

794
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Speaker 7: the NFC. All those teams you mentioned are are going

795
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Speaker 7: to be good. And then, of course every year we're

796
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Speaker 7: always asked, Okay, who are your surprise teams? Well, I

797
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 7: don't think you called it The Chargers a surprise team.

798
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Speaker 5: Okay, they were.

799
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Speaker 7: They were not great last year, although Justin Herbert was

800
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 7: terrific as a rookie, winning the Offensive Rookie of the Year.

801
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Speaker 7: Would it be a surprise if I if I picked

802
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Speaker 7: them as a wildcard team? Remember we have the two

803
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 7: extra teams now six teams? Uh so, actually seventh team, right, yeah,

804
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 7: seven teams now. So I don't think it would be

805
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 7: surprised to anyone. But again, it's always wild Nobody like

806
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 7: when the Rams made their Super Bowl run, nobody saw

807
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 7: that coming. When Vehicles made the Super Bowl in seventeen,

808
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 7: they had a losing record the year before. You just

809
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 7: you know, it's hard to pick these teams to break out.

810
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 7: I just think the Charges, because of the Rocks, are

811
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 7: so good.

812
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Speaker 2: I like this. You and I were talking before this.

813
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Speaker 7: I like this young coach excepf re u till the

814
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 7: young coaching staff with a lot of energy, a lot

815
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Speaker 7: of guys coming from college.

816
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Speaker 2: I think they'll all grow together.

817
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: I talked about this with Peter too. Adversity is going

818
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: to strike all thirty two NFL teams at some point.

819
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: It could happen in the true season, it could happen

820
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: during the course of the season. It's how you respond

821
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: to that adversity in guys that can step up. We

822
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of young players on this team.

823
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Nine draft picks, some impressive players who at some point.

824
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: In talking to Tom Tell, let's go about this. It's

825
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: hard to rely on a rookie throughout the course of

826
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Speaker 1: now a seventeen game season. But if you can get

827
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Speaker 1: them to pop at some point, Right, you're relying on

828
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Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater to likely start.

829
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: It's not they Samuel start.

830
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Speaker 1: But if you can get some production out of let's

831
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Speaker 1: say Larry Rowntree the running back, at some point maybe

832
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: he has a big game, or Nickneman the linebacker, Josh Palmer,

833
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 1: maybe he pops behind Keenan and Mike. It's all about

834
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: trying to get those contributions at some point during the season.

835
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that tests your depth because what happens is

836
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 7: you set up well, you can't rely on rookies, but

837
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 7: at some point they're going to have to play. Josh

838
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 7: Palmer's getting a lot of reps. You know when they

839
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 7: go three a while, when they go left personnel, he

840
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 7: seems to be in there roundtree. Obviously, it's got to

841
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 7: work his way up. Yeah, it's more or less fourth

842
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 7: on the depth chart right now, but he's a guy

843
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,479
Speaker 7: he was drafted. The depth of this team is also

844
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 7: much better. Again, I wasn't here last summer, so I'm

845
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 7: looking at it what it was then two years ago, uh,

846
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Speaker 7: and what it is now.

847
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Speaker 2: They've done a good job. I mean, there's there's there's

848
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: a lot to work. These coaches have a lot to

849
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: work with.

850
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Speaker 7: That's the good thing. Coaches will tell you how good

851
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 7: is my depth? What happens if this guy gets hurt?

852
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 7: Can he play? Can can we use this guy? And

853
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 7: it's it's it's good to have. Also because of Joe Mbardi,

854
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 7: who've been around the blocks, who been with New Orleans,

855
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 7: who know what it's like to deal with some challenges here,

856
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 7: I'm well, I can't wait to see his offense. I

857
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 7: was able to the last few days that.

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Speaker 5: I've been here.

859
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 7: I was able to see the impression from work with

860
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Speaker 7: Sean Payton. A lot of multiple sets are gonna be

861
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 7: a lot eleven, a lot of twelve personnel. You could

862
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 7: see that, which it should be because you work with

863
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Speaker 7: the talents that you're given.

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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan, I always love when you are here in

865
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Speaker 1: Coast to Maze. Tell me what you're working on this

866
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Speaker 1: year where people can find you and uh Chargers play

867
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Speaker 1: the Eagles this year?

868
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Speaker 2: Where's that game? I think here in Philly? Week Oh,

869
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Speaker 2: I want to say week nine. Okay the top of

870
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Speaker 2: my head. Maybe we'll grab dinner if you come in.

871
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Speaker 2: He yeah, come in if you come in Friday, but

872
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: tell everyone what you got going on. You got an

873
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: exciting start.

874
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Speaker 7: Yeah, So follow me on Twitter at Kaplan, NFL, c APLA,

875
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Speaker 7: and NFL. I've a media company with my my business partner,

876
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Speaker 7: Jeff Moscher. We have a podcast called Inside the Birds.

877
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Speaker 7: It's mostly on the Eagles, but well we do we

878
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Speaker 7: cover other teams. I probably will next week do a

879
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 7: show where I go over my whole training camp tour

880
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 7: duly two or three minutes on every team. By then

881
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 7: I'll probably see ten teams. So we do that and

882
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 7: we bring another podcasters. We're bringing ex player, You're brought

883
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 7: in Quentin Michael, Jason Leavant. They have a show called

884
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 7: Q and A, which is enormously popular. All of a sudden,

885
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 7: the fans absolutely love them. Fans love X player shows.

886
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 7: They connect with them. Yeah, they're awesome. They do a

887
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 7: phenomenal job. And we'll probably bring another former NFL players

888
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 7: to do shows, and we'll expand that maybe in other markets,

889
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 7: and I'll be hosting on NFL Radio hopefully when I

890
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 7: get back. I just couldn't take my shifts because I'm

891
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 7: out here. I'm on the Fantasy Sports Radio, which your

892
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 7: channel eighty seven and serious Tuesdays and Fridays.

893
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: And doing a lot of other things.

894
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: A lot of apssciate it, a lot of places to

895
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: get adam kaplan, I've held you.

896
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: You're going to Oxtard right now? I am.

897
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 8: Yeah.

898
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 7: Well, I'm actually be meeting with a friend from the

899
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 7: Rams who text me when I get lunch, I'm like, oh,

900
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 7: I better get out.

901
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: Of here, all right, leave yourself two hours? Yes there,

902
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: thank you, Yes, you're right, You're right. I'm appreciated and

903
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Thanks all right.

904
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: Now. Joined by senior NFL writer Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.

905
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: Jeremy on his training camp tour Coasta, Mesa, kurd Stop.

906
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: How are you man?

907
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm good man.

908
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: It's hard to beat this is that you can't beat it.

909
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 9: That ups pretty incredible on weather. It's perfect and got

910
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 9: about four or five teams I can hit up out

911
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 9: here in the West Coast. So hard to complain.

912
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 1: Man's especially in southern California, Right, you get the Cowboys,

913
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: get the Rams, you get the Chargers.

914
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's all like a two hour spot.

915
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: It's all a two hours you can hit them all.

916
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

917
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 9: So I did a little Vegas too, so trying to

918
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 9: mix it up. But it's good.

919
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 5: It's gonna be fun.

920
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: It's got to be good for you.

921
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: Like you gain a perception of a team from afar

922
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: throughout the off season, it's got to be good to

923
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: come see it in person and kind of get some

924
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: insight as opposed to what you hear and you read

925
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: about throughout the course of an office Soon for.

926
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 9: Sure, I mean, you get little examples of what's going

927
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 9: to make a team go. Even though it's early. You know,

928
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 9: there's there's not a lot of hitting going on, but

929
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 9: you can see, like you know, justin Herbert firsthand, you

930
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 9: can see the arm strength, but you can see, you know,

931
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 9: I noticed. Even the accuracy, yeah, was was even you

932
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 9: knew it was good, but it's probably better than I

933
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 9: thought today. I don't know that he missed one throw

934
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 9: that was like a clear overthrow anything like that. Everything

935
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 9: was on the money. You know, you get to see

936
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 9: some of the speed up close. You know, just positions

937
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 9: that are either strengthened or maybe need some work. So

938
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 9: you just you get little examples of what's gonna It

939
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 9: informs you so when you watch the games and you

940
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 9: report on the teams, you kind of know what to

941
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 9: look for.

942
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: Everyone will point to last year with Justin the year

943
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: he had, but it's just everything's different this year. We're

944
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: gonna have crowds, it's a new coaching staff, it's a

945
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: new offense for Justin your observations of just what the

946
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: Chargers are doing in that they're you bring in a

947
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: first time hey coach Brandon Staley, who has been just

948
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: awesome to listen to during this offseason and just to

949
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: hear kind of his philosophy and how he wants to

950
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: do things. A brand new coaching staff, a lot of

951
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: young guys, a mix of college and and and pros.

952
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: And then you know a guy in Justin Herbert in

953
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: his second year, who I think many expect to kind

954
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: of take that next step.

955
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 9: Sure, I mean he's right there on the cusp and

956
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 9: you know, a new offense, but he had a whole

957
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 9: offseason to learn it. You know, I think it will

958
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 9: be a smoother process than having to be thrown into

959
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 9: the games as a rookie. And you know, that was

960
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 9: probably a challenge and he answered it in a big way.

961
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 9: And you know, I think now with an improved offensive line,

962
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 9: that's what I look at. You know, he'll probably be

963
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 9: able to make more throws from the pocket, won't be

964
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 9: on the run as much. I mean, he's an athletic guy,

965
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 9: so they probably want to use him on the move throwing,

966
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 9: but maybe he won't have to always do that out

967
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 9: of necessity. So the line should be better based on

968
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 9: the moves they made. You know, Rayshawn Sledder gets thrown

969
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 9: right in there on the left side, and so that

970
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 9: you know, even though he's a high pedigree guy, that

971
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 9: will take a little bit of time, but he looks

972
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 9: like he's ready for that challenge. So there's probably more balance,

973
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 9: I would say on the offense this year.

974
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at that offensive line yes, protecting Justin

975
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: is going to be paramount.

976
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: But getting him a running game.

977
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: You know, Austin only played Austin Eckle only played ten

978
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: games last year. If they can open up some holes

979
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: for him, and whether it's Josh Kelly or Justin Jackson

980
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: or Larry Roundtree, then you control the clock a little

981
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: bit more and Justin isn't having to do as much

982
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: as maybe he did last year.

983
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 9: Sure, and I think there'll probably be some elements of

984
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 9: you know, some misdirection with the running game and get creative.

985
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 9: I mean, you know Lombardi from the Saint system, they're

986
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 9: among the most creative in the league what they do, Yeah,

987
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 9: and how they get guys free and that includes the

988
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 9: running game and Alvin Kamara, So you could see glimpses

989
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 9: of that. And I mean this is a team with

990
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 9: a lot of depth of that position. You know, Round three,

991
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 9: the guy the draft that I know they really like

992
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 9: and he's probably what fourth on the depth chart, I know. So, yeah,

993
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 9: they have backs, that's not the issue. The issue is

994
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 9: just being able to consistently move the ball. And yeah,

995
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 9: I think they'll probably be a bigger part of it.

996
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: And that's what's fascinating is we know all the household

997
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: names in the first team guys, but this is where

998
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: your roster gets built and you kind of see the

999
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: depth that you have and what guys may be able

1000
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: to set up come Week one. Defensively, you know, we

1001
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: know all about what Brandon Sealey did last year with

1002
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: the Rams. It helps to have number thirty three back

1003
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: there in Derwin James. And I said, it's no coincidence

1004
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: his rookie year in this league they go twelve and four.

1005
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: He was the first team All Pro. He's just a

1006
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: game changer. And now when you pair him with Joey

1007
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: Bosa and if they can stay healthy, your prospects for

1008
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: this defense knowing that you have playmakers really at every.

1009
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: Level, Yeah, it's crazy.

1010
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 9: I mean with with Durwin, I did a summer project

1011
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 9: in the top ten players of each position, and it's

1012
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 9: through the eyes of the NFL, right, so I'm polling

1013
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 9: scouts and coaches and execs, and you know, Derwin James

1014
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 9: was still on the top ten list, even though I

1015
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 9: would think any other guy at the safety position, if

1016
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 9: they missed as much time as he did, probably wouldn't

1017
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 9: have made the list. But you know, he's such a

1018
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 9: talent that they can't leave him off. Yeah, and so yeah,

1019
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 9: I think I think that just the possibilities are endless

1020
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 9: of a guy like that. You know, he can you know,

1021
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 9: whether he can rush the pass or play corner. He

1022
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 9: can guard you know, top ten receivers on the edge

1023
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 9: as according to Play Post Safety play eight different positions.

1024
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 9: So yeah, that's certainly invaluable. He erases a lot of

1025
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 9: problems he does, and it looks like, you know, the

1026
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 9: injuries that he's had are sort of ones that he

1027
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 9: doesn't really have to manage because you know that they're

1028
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 9: not lingering. So these moves on from those and that's

1029
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 9: a good sign for the Chargers.

1030
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: No question.

1031
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: And then you know guys we don't talk about as much.

1032
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: I remember like Drew Trenkle, for instance, linebacker, he had

1033
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: a great rookie year, great on special teams, gets hurt

1034
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: the fifth defensive snap of last year. So you bring

1035
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: a guy like that back to pair with Kenneth Murray

1036
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: in his second season. I think Brandon Staley he has

1037
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,959
Speaker 1: the pieces and you know, everybody when you talk about

1038
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: the Chargers that you think of Justin Herbert. But if

1039
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: this defense can slow some of these high powered offenses

1040
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: in the AFC, you put yourself at least in the

1041
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: conversation where a wild card spot or heck, maybe even

1042
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: challenging the Chiefs.

1043
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure. You know, I think it's it's a

1044
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 9: lot of talent on the defense. They have, you know,

1045
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 9: a few positions that you just maybe need to see

1046
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 9: the depth develop, Like you know, who's going to be

1047
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 9: what's gonna be the cornerback rotation is like an as

1048
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 9: Sante Samuel going to come on and take a prominent role,

1049
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 9: you know, linebacker. I think they're pretty good, you know,

1050
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 9: depth wise, you know the interior defensive line is there

1051
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 9: enough there? You know, we'll see. But yeah, the town,

1052
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 9: it's not the issue. There's enough to work with. Certainly,

1053
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 9: you know, brand Stalely, everybody's been defense wise, they've been successful,

1054
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 9: you know, so that that'll be his calling card and

1055
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 9: that's a good sign.

1056
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy, I know you're busy, man, I'll get you out

1057
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: here on this. You have such a grasp on the NFL,

1058
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: the AFC in particular, and just the landscape of the conference.

1059
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: How do you see the Chargers in twenty twenty one

1060
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: fitting into this puzzle?

1061
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 7: Is it.

1062
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: Is it a team that can challenge the Chiefs? Is

1063
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: it a team that you think is capable of making

1064
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: that wildcard run in the AFC?

1065
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 9: Certainly capable.

1066
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1067
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 9: It's funny when when you come to these teams, you

1068
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 9: deal with, you know, perceptions that you kind of have

1069
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 9: to put to bed, you know, because like people think

1070
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 9: of Chargers as injury prone. I think of them as, like,

1071
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 9: you know, kind of a wild card a bit you

1072
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 9: never know what you're going to get year to year.

1073
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 9: But if you take this team at face value, certainly

1074
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 9: it's a team rising. It's a team that you know,

1075
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 9: you wouldn't I wouldn't put it on the level of

1076
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 9: the Chiefs and a couple of those teams just yet

1077
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 9: because you kind of have to earn that, but to see, certainly,

1078
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 9: if you're talking about playoff contenders, I would put them

1079
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 9: in that mix. You know, there's no I don't think

1080
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 9: there's any question about that.

1081
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: Jerry.

1082
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to chat with you. Love having

1083
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: you out a training camp.

1084
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: Man. Where can people find you? What you can be

1085
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 2: doing at ESPN?

1086
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 9: So coming season, so I'll just just be covering the league,

1087
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 9: you know, just kind of writing writing an a good

1088
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 9: story that comes to mind, or just you know, reporting

1089
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 9: on everything from you know, teams to injuries to uh

1090
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 9: contracts and all that fun stuff. You know, just whatever

1091
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 9: makes the league ticks, so it'll be good. Jay Fowler

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Speaker 9: ESPN is my Twitter handle, so you can find me there.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 2: This is fun, awesome man boys, A pleasure.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, all right, guys, that's going to do it

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Speaker 9: for us.

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Speaker 2: A big show today.

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Speaker 1: My thanks to Jeremy Fowler, Adam Kaplan, Jerry O'Connell, and

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport for joining me, and of course thanks to

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Speaker 1: you all for listening. Be sure to download and subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers Podcast Network wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 1: We're also on video chargers dot com and the Chargers

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Speaker 1: official YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Every Thursday, be sure to check us out.

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Speaker 1: Chargers Rams this Saturday at SOFI Stadium. Have a great

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Speaker 1: weekend and until next time, I'm Chris Hayry