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Speaker 1: Okay, welcome back in clay Travis buck Sexton show. You

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Speaker 1: never know what you may get on the program. From

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Speaker 1: the Trump Department of Justice had suggested just one day,

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Speaker 1: and we were walking through the Breonna Taylor information and

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Speaker 1: giving people more about that because it's been several years

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Speaker 1: and some of you may well have forgotten about what

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Speaker 1: took place there. Well, listening in Louisville, Kentucky was one

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Speaker 1: John Mattingly and he is with us now and so

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Speaker 1: I want to bring him in and I'll just say,

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Speaker 1: first of all, thanks for listening and broadly, just tell

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Speaker 1: us what happened on that day and what you think

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Speaker 1: about the thirty three month sentence that you're her former

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Speaker 1: police officer colleague got in that case. And obviously thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening. What can you tell us about that day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Clayon Travis, I appreciate you guys having me on

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Speaker 2: and being willing to get it from you know, first hand.

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Speaker 2: Source somebody who's kind of been through the fire and

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Speaker 2: all this thing. First off, let me start with the decision.

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Speaker 2: I think the judge when it was the Biden DOJ,

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Speaker 2: did everything they asked for in the case. In the trial,

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Speaker 2: there were so many things that were unprofessional by that DOJ.

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Speaker 2: I've never set on a side and felt like it

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Speaker 2: She did not allow cell phones to get entered into

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Speaker 2: evidence or the ones that were in evidence. She refused

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Speaker 2: jurors kept coming back going, man, we got a hung jury.

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Speaker 2: We got a hung jury. And then they asked the

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Speaker 2: question should we assume Rihanna is dead or alive? She said,

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Speaker 2: assumed she was dead or alive, which totally negates the

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Speaker 2: legal process and the judge's influence on the jury, because

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Speaker 2: in order for a statute such as the civil rights violation,

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Speaker 2: the person has to be alive. And there were just

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Speaker 2: so many things, man, And I think the appeal is

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Speaker 2: process starts, if this DOJ even allows it. Because I

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Speaker 2: was sitting in the courtroom and I saw two faces

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Speaker 2: to the DOJ, the one under Biden and the one

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Speaker 2: process and go, this is the way it should be.

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Speaker 2: This makes sense when you look at the facts of

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Speaker 2: the case, and anything outside of this scope is unreasonable.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm so happy that Trump's back in. I

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Speaker 2: think if once this word gets out on how this

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Speaker 2: kind of wicked racist, you know, hateful people, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to people who are risking their lives simply trying to

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Speaker 2: the street, because every time an action is taken. I've

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Speaker 2: talked to thousands of cops across the country. When I

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Speaker 2: them is simply, we're scared to do our job. Anything

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Speaker 2: we do. You know, you've got to worry about the

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Speaker 2: bad guy in front of you shooting you're hurting you.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly, you got to worry about the government

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Speaker 3: So you you, sir, you were inkos, You you were

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Speaker 3: at that raid, you were shot in the leg, correct.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it ripped through my primeral artery. Thank god for

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Speaker 2: a tournique, or I wouldn't even be talking to you.

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Speaker 2: So I had a five and a half hour surgery

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Speaker 2: and that's the part that gets missed over. You know,

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Speaker 2: you talk about the active aggressor in this case was

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker her boyfriend?

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, see hit.

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Speaker 4: The storyline, the storyline.

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Speaker 1: Take us through that day. Yes, uh, just tell us

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Speaker 4: The raid, What happened at the raid.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that story, so just

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, let me tell about a couple of the

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Speaker 2: falsehoods that the ben Crumps of the world put out,

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Speaker 2: And this went on for a minute, which when you're

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Speaker 2: Brett was the third one in the stack. And this

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Speaker 2: And I had questions at first too, because we're not

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Speaker 2: there's always exigent circumstances to things, and when Brett was

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Speaker 2: He could see the flashes through the window, and in

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Speaker 2: the premise the case. That's where how they know.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is this is important. I'm glad you shared

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Speaker 1: all that with us, because I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people out there listening right now are probably reacting as

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Speaker 1: many other jurors have, which is, you got shot by

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Speaker 1: someone inside of this apartment. How in the world is

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Speaker 1: a police officer returning fire at what he thinks is

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Speaker 1: That seems crazy to me.

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Speaker 3: And deprivation of civil rights specifically, which try to square

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't even meet the standards of that number one.

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Speaker 2: But secondly, Brett is the only officer ever charged for

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Speaker 2: returning fire after being fired upon that hit no one.

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Speaker 2: He's the only officer in American history has been charged

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, I think the good news is that, Uh, well,

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Speaker 3: we can share our opinions here freely. We don't have

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Speaker 3: kinds of things. I think President Trump should commuter part

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Speaker 3: in this. You know, Brett Hankinson immediately. And I know

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Speaker 3: commutation of this clay. I mean I would, I would

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Speaker 3: say an outright pardon the notion that this officer might

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Speaker 3: serve or could even theoretically sir before appeal almost three

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Speaker 3: years in prison for shooting a gun when someone's been

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Speaker 3: shooting at officers and he didn't even hit anybody. It's just,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, sergeant Maddingly, who hit I

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Speaker 1: don't even remember who hit Breonna Taylor.

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Speaker 2: One of my bullets hit I believe her left leg.

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Speaker 2: Because as soon as Kenneth's shot, he dove into a

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Speaker 2: was she was on the outside of me. Number one,

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Speaker 2: Why do you bring your girlfriend out in the hall

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Speaker 2: One of my bullets struck her armor leg I can't

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Speaker 2: like number one. Kennis Walker didn't even call nine one

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Speaker 2: one for six and a half minutes after this incident happened.

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Speaker 2: He refused to come out into almost seventeen minutes after

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Speaker 4: So this dude's I forget.

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Speaker 1: Did he have a criminal lied? He lied about who

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Speaker 1: fired the shot on body camera?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I've got that video.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, but did he have a previous criminal record.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember all the facts of the case.

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Speaker 2: He had been arrested one time with a gun in marijuana,

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Speaker 2: and originally he lost his rights to a weapon. They

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Speaker 2: amended it down to a misdemeanor, like all these courts

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Speaker 2: do for the for the thugs, and then he got

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Speaker 2: his rights back for the gun. However, in his text

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Speaker 2: So this guy was not this saint that they put out.

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Speaker 1: How many people do you think No, I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: calling in. I mean, obviously we didn't schedule this. You

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Speaker 1: heard us talking about it. You're on I'm assuming in

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Speaker 1: How many people do you think know the full story here?

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Speaker 1: Because I think Buck's right, President Trump should commute your

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Speaker 1: fellow officer. This thirty three month sentence is crazy for

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Speaker 1: This, Suspan. So we appreciate you calling us and filling

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Speaker 3: You're doing a service by telling the people the truth

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Speaker 2: And the only reason I wrote that wasn't for fame

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Speaker 2: Everybody had all these misconceptions of the case, and I

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Speaker 3: John Mattingly dot com is his site officer. Mattingly, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for shedding some very important light on

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Toty railroaded these guys completely. And I think the fact

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in, Clay. Travis buck Sexton show lots of

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Speaker 1: reaction pouring in to Sergent Mattingley calling in from Louisville.

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Speaker 3: Clay Brook, Just great show, but just listening to this

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is completely different.

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Speaker 3: Go to Hanks hankas three years Hankerson, he's the guy

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Speaker 3: meant before. This is why I'm thinking about this because

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Speaker 3: Democrats will do this. They will just find some charge

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Speaker 3: that really some statute that has nothing to do with

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Speaker 3: the conduct, but they'll create some BS rationale, and all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden you're facing you know, you're facing all

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Speaker 3: this time in prison. I mean, it's what is what

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Speaker 3: is the right that you're deprived of when there's a

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Speaker 3: gunfight in your house because your boyfriend shot at somebody

443
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Speaker 3: and someone shoots through the what's the right you're deprived of?

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Speaker 1: That's a civil right? I don't understand. I don't understand

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Speaker 1: it at all. I mean I think it's an example of.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if somebody walks up to me and punches

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Speaker 3: me in my face, have they deprived me of a

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Speaker 3: civil right? I mean, the civil right to not be

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Speaker 3: punched in the face. Well, then you can say that

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Speaker 3: about anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's these broad categories. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: certainly saw it in the wake of jan six where

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Speaker 1: you can basically charge people with anything. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: do they that was the construction of an official proceeding, which,

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Speaker 1: as I explained, the reason they made that stat that

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Speaker 1: statue was supposed to be about essentially destroying all the

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Speaker 1: evidence during a federal trial, for example. And you know

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Speaker 1: that they make those penalties very severe with good reason

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Speaker 1: because it's a premeditated thing.

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Speaker 4: It goes right to the heart of the justice system.

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Speaker 4: People walked into a building.

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Speaker 1: You walked into a building, and even but we can

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Speaker 1: see the video. They always show you the videos. The

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Speaker 1: guys were, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, are punching and pushing at comps. There are a

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Speaker 3: lot of other people just walked around, like, hey, look

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Speaker 3: at this. This is kind of crazy. They walked out, Clay.

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Speaker 3: Their lives were ruined until Trump came along and pardoned them.

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Speaker 3: Their lives are ruined.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't even know. I mean, here's an

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Speaker 1: an interesting and I think good question. How many people

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Speaker 1: have gotten prosecuted for firing a weapon when a police

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Speaker 1: officer got shot? Has that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, he's understanding that was that was quite

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Speaker 3: a thing to point out that no one has ever

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Speaker 3: been charged. No police officer has ever been charged in

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Speaker 3: a situation where they fired their gun and nobody was.

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Speaker 1: Hit, well not only anybody, but yes, correct, he didn't anybody,

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Speaker 1: but the guy got madically got shot. My question would be,

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Speaker 1: how many times are police officers getting charged with crimes

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Speaker 1: when their partner gets shot? And what did he say

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Speaker 1: was twelve seconds? Twelve seconds is the amount of time

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Speaker 1: that this entire process played itself out. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: I think that very very few people know the facts

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Speaker 1: of the Breonna Taylor case. You brought this up in

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Speaker 1: the first hour because the sentencing has just occurred, and

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration DOJ had suggested one day as punishment. Basically,

488
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Speaker 1: this guy didn't do anything, will give him a slap

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Speaker 1: on the wrist. They already fired him. And I think

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Speaker 1: you're right. I mean, I think the difference is should

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Speaker 1: you commute the sentence or should you pardon? And I

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Speaker 1: think for a lot of people that's a distinction without

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Speaker 1: a difference, uh the pardon obviously in this context, I

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Speaker 1: think I look either a pardon or a commutation I

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Speaker 1: think would be appropriate. I don't think this guy committed

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Speaker 1: a crime. I think on appeal, this is going to

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Speaker 1: get thrown out because I just don't I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand how you can justify it.

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Speaker 3: And also it's one thing, you know, the facts that

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Speaker 3: were laid out there. I've been on this case and

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Speaker 3: reading it, this case for a long time cause I

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Speaker 3: I what attracted me to this case as a as

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Speaker 3: a national news story other than the Breonna Taylor as

504
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Speaker 3: one of the BLM martyr's chant that's out there is

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Speaker 3: I kept finding out things that we're not in the

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Speaker 3: official narrative. I kept I kept reading things, well that's

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Speaker 3: not you know, that's that's that's not true. I mean

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Speaker 3: stuff for example, about her her address being used for

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Speaker 3: this this guy who was a very wonted criminal with

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Speaker 3: multiple you know, criminal cases ongoing at the time.

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Speaker 4: That's relevant.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they didn't just break into somebody's house, the Compson

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Speaker 3: just kicking the door for no reason. Uh, But the

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Speaker 3: media was all everyone was terrified about stepping out of

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Speaker 3: line on this at the time, even some Republicans by

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Speaker 3: the way, And it was just a moment of like

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Speaker 3: psychological frenzy and breakdown, and nobody was able to fight

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Speaker 3: for for the truth at that time. And you know,

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Speaker 3: you still have. I mean people have been out there.

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Speaker 3: Tucker's been saying it for a while that George Floyd

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Speaker 3: had a lethal dose of fentanel in a system when

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Speaker 3: he died, for example. But we're still to believe that

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Speaker 3: then he was shaken to the neck. Was that that

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Speaker 3: that he was that he was murdered? I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: the there's somebody serving a very long prison sentence for

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Speaker 3: his murder. But you'll notice that this is what democrats do.

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Speaker 3: They they do vague federal charges if they can't get

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Speaker 3: clear state charges, you know, murder, you know, excessive use

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Speaker 3: of force. If that doesn't then they go to the

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Speaker 3: federal playbook, assuming that they've got a Democrat running the

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Speaker 3: DJ and they try to bring some some nonsense like

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Speaker 3: like what they've brought here. I would just say, you

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Speaker 3: know what, what are the officers supposed to do differently

534
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Speaker 3: under this situation? I don't is someone gonna look them

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Speaker 3: in the eyes and say, you know what, when when

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Speaker 3: you when you go in on this raid, they had a.

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Speaker 1: Warrant for it.

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Speaker 4: You go in, someone shoots at you. You need to

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Speaker 4: just take a.

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Speaker 3: Moment, You need to say, hold on a second, guys,

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Speaker 3: it's time for some violence de escalation.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 3: I'm bleeding, but I want to take a I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's insane what they asked for. And as I've brought

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Speaker 3: up about the body camera thing too, what I see

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Speaker 3: a lot of the time, and again I study use

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Speaker 3: of force. I spend a fair amount of time, you know,

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Speaker 3: with pistols. I'm pretty handy with a pistol. Especially these days.

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Speaker 3: I see cops where I'm like, I would have drawn

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Speaker 3: down and fired a lot faster than they did, over

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Speaker 3: and over again.

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Speaker 4: That's what I see.

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Speaker 3: I see, you know, someone's running at them with a

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Speaker 3: knife and they'll stop, stop, stop, stopping ten times.

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Speaker 4: I'm like I would yell at twice and then that's

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Speaker 4: gonna be it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the reality is a lot of

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Speaker 1: these police officers, and I'm sure some of you out

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Speaker 1: there that are listening that are police officers expect or

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Speaker 1: have seen this happen. Police are becoming victims of violent

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Speaker 1: criminals because they're afraid of being accused of being too

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Speaker 1: aggressive to stop a violent criminal. And that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. It doesn't take very much time for

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Speaker 1: somebody to cover the distance coming towards you, but in

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Speaker 1: the back of your mind, if you're thinking, oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a household name.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to shoot anybody.

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Speaker 1: Right, Most cops do not get in the car every

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Speaker 1: morning saying I hope I get to kill somebody today. Right,

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Speaker 1: Most people are thinking, I hope I do not have

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Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on my gun because they don't

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Speaker 1: want to go through this.

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Speaker 3: Look, they don't talk about this that often, but it's

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Speaker 3: true most cops after it depends on the departmental policy.

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Speaker 3: But if you're involved, even in the most straightforward lawful

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Speaker 3: discharge of your service weapon, you know, defending yourself against

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Speaker 3: a maniac running at you with a hatchet or something, right,

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Speaker 3: which that stuff does happen to cops a lot of times, there's, uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, there's mandatory psychological counseling because you know, killing

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Speaker 3: someone is a big deal, even when you're fully justified

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Speaker 3: in doing it. I bring it up just because to

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Speaker 3: your point, yeah, you don't have cops showing up like

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Speaker 3: you know, what would be a really great day for

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Speaker 3: me if I had to be involved in a lethal

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Speaker 3: use of force incident that could uh seeing me possibly

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Speaker 3: thrown in prison depending on how the facts go. If

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Speaker 3: somehow I get you know, fed to the fed to

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Speaker 3: the wolves on this one, even if I am defending myself,

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Speaker 3: that could get me fired for my job. Even if

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Speaker 3: I don't get criminally prosecuted, it could get me sued.

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Speaker 3: And you know it's just you go down this whole list.

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Speaker 3: They don't actually want that. But when you know cops,

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Speaker 3: I mean, my uncle was career LAPD. So you know,

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Speaker 3: when you when you spend time around law enforcement, you

595
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Speaker 3: just see them as people doing a job with wives

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Speaker 3: or husbands at home and kids that they're trying to

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Speaker 3: take care of and provide for. It's a lot hard

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Speaker 3: or to just go, yeah, throw all those racist cops

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Speaker 3: in prison. And when you spend time in some scary

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Speaker 3: neighborhoods of some major cities Clay and you see what

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Speaker 3: the really bad people will do sometimes to the other

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Speaker 3: people in their communities, you really have a new appreciation

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Speaker 3: for cops.

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Speaker 1: Well. And that's the ultimate unfortunate legacy of BLM, which

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Speaker 1: to a large extent has been overturned. Is I think thousands,

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Speaker 1: maybe even tens of thousands of people are dead that

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Speaker 1: would have otherwise been alive. If people had been able

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Speaker 1: to be protected by police. We turned the actual good

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Speaker 1: guys that are saving lives into the bad guys. And

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Speaker 1: it goes back to what we talked about yesterday. Right now,

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Speaker 1: what we're in the process of doing is erasing the

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Speaker 1: awful decisions that I would say came out of the

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Speaker 1: woke universe over basically the last eight years. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate this about twenty four. I appreciate this about Trump

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Speaker 1: and about MAGA as well, and everybody should should have

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Speaker 1: a I believe a level of appreciation for the fact

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Speaker 1: that Trump doesn't come into office and say, all right,

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Speaker 1: well we took L's you know, we got losses on

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Speaker 1: all that and UH and they they gained ground there,

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Speaker 1: but that's territory that can't be won back. That's why

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Speaker 1: even something that seems maybe to some people as peripheral

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Speaker 1: as the uh name change of the teams and Trump

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Speaker 1: weighing on that, no, no, we're we're If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a counter revolution against the Democrat maoists, you need

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Speaker 1: to have a counter revolution everything all the above. Schools

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Speaker 1: can't you know, colleges and universities can engage in race

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Speaker 1: preferences anymore. In hiring or in admissions rather, and if

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Speaker 1: they do, they're gonna get sued. You can't pretend guys

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Speaker 1: or girls for the purposes of sports. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna push back on the name changes a military basis.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna the old Republican way was okay, well that

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Speaker 1: was a rough four years, but like, maybe we can

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Speaker 1: get some tax cuts going. Guys, No, we'ren't a different

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Speaker 1: era now, and and we should be thankful for that,

635
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Speaker 1: because fighting on this ground is what's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to say of the country over the long run.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Once a month I get a package and

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Speaker 1: it's the most I'm gonna tell you this, the most

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Speaker 1: exciting package I think I can get each month. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And I always run down and grab it and I

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Speaker 1: open it up. It's like Christmas Morning for me, except

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of meat in there,

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Speaker 1: and it's from Good Ranchers. Good Ranchers sends me my box.

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Speaker 1: I just had steak night with Carrie on Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, I'm a steak chef. Clay had Clay, you

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Speaker 1: were here for a Good Rancher steak night. He doesn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't always give the bucks to all

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Speaker 1: the credit deserves. Pretty handy, pretty handy with the cash.

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Speaker 1: Din right. I had good Ranchers last night. Laura cooked

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Speaker 1: it up. Me and the two boys my oldest is

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Speaker 1: away at camp. We all had good Rancher steaks. They

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Speaker 1: Jim, a former cop, says, look, I'm a retired lieutenant

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Speaker 1: Bravo Zulo zulu Jim.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people, you know, we never get you

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Speaker 3: but he was running away from the officer shot and

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Speaker 4: It's not there.

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Speaker 3: It's not like the people who stand up for cops

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Speaker 1: That's right, And I also though at Sergeant Mattingly and

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Speaker 1: of the last hour. This is also really important. These

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Speaker 1: very often by the media that propagates all of that

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Speaker 1: side of the story. The other side, for instance, Louisville

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Speaker 1: aren't allowed to say anything. Stay quiet, allow this process

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Speaker 1: telling their story to anyone that will print it. And

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Speaker 1: by the time the swing back comes and you find

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Speaker 1: out a fuller picture of what actually happened on that day,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a sign that frankly, police departments

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Speaker 1: in a culture and a world where most people are

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Speaker 1: guilty before they're presumed innocent instead of vice versa. Mornette