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Speaker 1: Khalila Holt. Yeah, heavyweight producer.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh?

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Speaker 1: Dancer no, singer?

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Speaker 3: M No?

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Speaker 1: Did I say heavyweight producer?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And today you're going to be more than just a

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say just today. Today, you're you're going to

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Speaker 1: be presenting us with a story. Yes, I'm excited about.

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Speaker 2: It, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I am too, in anticipation of the season coming up

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Speaker 1: in the fall. Yes, we're going to be We're going

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Speaker 1: to be doing some smaller stories. But smaller is that

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Speaker 1: the right word, because they're they're not small and significance, they're.

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Speaker 2: Just short, kind of just shorter. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Does it? Does it feel condescending to call them mini episodes?

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Speaker 2: Mmm?

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Speaker 1: Lightweight?

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Speaker 2: I think that's more condescending. Why don't we just call

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Speaker 2: it like heavyweight.

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Speaker 1: Shorts, heavyweight shorts.

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Speaker 2: For summer, shorts for summer.

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Speaker 5: All right, fine, let's call them heavyweight short. And you're

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Speaker 5: going to be presenting us with our inaugural heavyweight short.

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Speaker 2: Yes, today's heavyweight short, Hallie. Right after the break, Hallie

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Speaker 2: keeps coming back to a brief interaction she had with

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Speaker 2: a stranger when she was seventeen years old. The whole

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Speaker 2: thing only lasted a few minutes, but those minutes, she says,

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Speaker 2: set the course for the rest of her life, and

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Speaker 2: the stranger has remained on her mind ever since.

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Speaker 4: Eh, God, like once or twice a year, I think

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Speaker 4: about her.

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Speaker 2: How long has it been now?

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Speaker 6: This was August of twenty twelve, so it's been almost

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Speaker 6: nine years.

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Speaker 2: Nine years ago, Hallie was in high school and dating

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Speaker 2: her first serious boyfriend. She was sexually active for the

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Speaker 2: first time and becoming increasingly anxious about not being on

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Speaker 2: birth control. In health class, the teacher always said to

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Speaker 2: talk to your mom about birth control, but Halle's mom

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Speaker 2: was prone to unpredictable mood swings and could sometimes get violent.

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Speaker 2: The two no longer spoke, so Halle lived with her dad,

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Speaker 2: a strict and religious man who believed it was morally

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Speaker 2: he'd seen her little sister with the guy he didn't

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Speaker 2: approve of, how he'd lifted the boy in the air

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Speaker 2: by his caller. Hallie had no older sister, no aunt

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Speaker 2: nor family friend she could call upon. Not knowing where

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Speaker 2: else to turn, she showed up one day at a

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Speaker 2: healthcare clinic in her hometown of Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin. Her

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Speaker 6: Timed it so that my dad would be at work

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Speaker 6: because it's a you know, it's it's a small town.

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Speaker 6: We were worried about our car being spotted in the

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Speaker 6: I was so frightened.

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Speaker 2: The clinic was on a busy street and had lots

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Speaker 6: I'm interested in getting on birth control, but it cannot

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Speaker 6: show up on any kind of billion statement because my

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Speaker 6: dad will notice. I'm sure she must have seen how

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Speaker 6: was it felt like one of those It felt like

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Speaker 6: one of those moments, one of those like unspoken conversations

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Speaker 6: need and another, yeah. Like she got to work, she

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Speaker 6: do this, and ultimately the answer was no, because it

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what I was gonna I have no

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Speaker 2: But the receptionist didn't drop it. She suggested calling Planned Parenthood,

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Speaker 2: and when Halle was too scared to call, the receptionist

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Speaker 6: And she just used the phone right there at the

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Speaker 6: office and pretended to be meet She gave them my name,

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Speaker 2: Even though Halle's interaction with the receptionist was brief, she

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Speaker 6: I went on to graduate from college and I'm now

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Speaker 6: currently living abroad pursuing my master's degree. But I just

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Speaker 6: can't help but think, you know, I know that none

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Speaker 4: Holy shit.

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Speaker 2: And so Hallie and I are talking today because she

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Speaker 2: wants my help in finding the receptionist so she can

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Speaker 2: let her know what an impact she had.

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Speaker 6: I want to say thank you so much for seeing

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Speaker 4: I mean, she's the reason I'm okay.

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Speaker 6: But I didn't have the I didn't have that presence

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Speaker 2: And what do you remember about just like what she

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Speaker 2: looked like? I'm assuming you don't remember her name.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember her first her last name.

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Speaker 6: No. I remember her being kind of a heavier sight,

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Speaker 6: but that.

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Speaker 4: Makes sense, I think.

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Speaker 6: I in my mind, she kind of had like long

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Speaker 6: But that's how I've always That's how I've always remembered her,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know how much of that is embellishment,

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I would make any of that up.

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Speaker 2: It's not much to go on, but I promised to

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Speaker 2: try to find the receptionist. Luckily, Hallie's sister remembers which

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Speaker 2: figure out who that receptionist was, I ask? He says no.

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Speaker 2: to her house, which feels uncomfortably illicit. One should no

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Speaker 2: more contact a doctor at their home, than follow an

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Speaker 2: I find someone at the head office who's moved by

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Speaker 2: Holley's story and willing to help. I give her Halle's

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Speaker 2: working the front desk, and a few weeks later, she

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Speaker 2: gets back in touch with the name Markina. I'm super nervous.

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Speaker 2: What's the thing that is making you nervous?

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Speaker 6: I guess, I just I've been wanting to thank this

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Speaker 4: You haven't told her everything, right?

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Speaker 2: I didn't. Yeah, I mean I told her sort of

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Speaker 2: that she'd helped a young woman named Halle long ago.

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Speaker 2: It didn't ring a bell. Still, Markina said that she

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Speaker 2: was happy to talk. Should we call? Do you feel

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Speaker 4: Yes, let's call.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: This is Markina Markina. Hi, It's Kalila and Hallie calling.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 4: How are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 7: How are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Hallie pauses trying to figure out what to say, and then,

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Speaker 2: just as she did nine years ago, she swallows her

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Speaker 6: So when I was seventeen years old, I was I

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Speaker 6: was sexually active, and I couldn't talk to my parents

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Speaker 6: about it. Me and my younger sister explain the situation, like,

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Speaker 6: we're interested in getting on birth control pills, but our

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Speaker 6: with a fine tooth comb.

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Speaker 3: And if you, oh my gosh, I do remember you?

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Speaker 4: You do?

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Speaker 7: I do remember you? Really?

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Speaker 3: Oh, cry baby, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 4: You do remember this?

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 7: And I remember calling my boss you do, that's right,

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Speaker 3: Like, okay, I don't want to get in trouble, but

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Speaker 3: I want to help her.

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Speaker 4: But do you remember what you did next?

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Speaker 6: You're even after your boss said you guys couldn't help,

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Speaker 6: because I think it would, it would have understandably violated

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Speaker 6: a bunch of ethical you still didn't stop. You called

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Speaker 6: planned parent and you made an appointment in my name.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh. And then the next the following week, I

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Speaker 6: birth control, and I was Okay. I just think about

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Speaker 6: and I want to say thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 3: Daughters and I was once that scared teenager that needed help.

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Speaker 3: So I always try to be that mother.

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Speaker 7: For someone, or that for someone, or that just someone

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Speaker 4: No, you were you.

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Speaker 6: That's that's exactly what I needed, and that's exactly who

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Speaker 6: you were. It would have been so easy for you

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Speaker 6: to just after talking to your boss, to say I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: I can't help you, but uh, I just wanted you

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Speaker 6: to know that I've never forgotten what you did, and

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Speaker 6: for the last nine years I've thought about you. I

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Speaker 6: in the middle of pursuing my master's right now, and

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Speaker 6: I have just always thought that might not have been possible.

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Speaker 4: If I didn't get the help I needed.

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Speaker 2: Markina, what is what is the thing that you remember

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Speaker 2: like about that day? Like what is it that rang

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Speaker 2: a bell for you?

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Speaker 7: When she said when she explained to me about her father.

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Speaker 3: In that moment, it didn't matter about work, it didn't

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Speaker 3: the team.

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Speaker 7: I knew I could not just leave her be like

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Speaker 3: even though her situation was totally different, Looking at her

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Speaker 6: Me, to hear you, to hear you talk about your past,

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Speaker 6: and now revisit that moment, knowing where you were coming from, m.

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Speaker 2: Is remarkable.

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Speaker 6: I'm so I'm so so grateful that you saw me

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Speaker 6: that day and didn't just like see me in front

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Speaker 6: remember you like one of the very first things you

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Speaker 6: said was you said you were proud of me for

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Speaker 4: And I'm so proud of you. Now, thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: You're welcome, You are so welcome.

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Speaker 2: Halle recently visited Whitefish Bay. She asked Martina if she

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Speaker 2: could see her, and Martina said she'd like that. She

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Speaker 2: still works for the same healthcare network, although at a

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Speaker 2: During the work day, Hallie brought Markina flowers. She drove

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Speaker 2: to the clinic, walked inside the door, and didn't care

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Speaker 2: who saw her. This Heavyweight short was produced by me

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Speaker 2: Khalila Holt along with Stevie Lane, Moheeney mcgauker, and Jonathan Goldstein.

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Speaker 2: Special thanks to Sam Riisman, Sherry Mantz, and doctor Lynde.

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Speaker 2: Katherine Anderson mixed the episode with original music by Christine Fellows.

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Speaker 2: John K. Sampson, Blue dot Sessions, and Bobby Lord. Follow

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Speaker 2: Heavyweight short in two weeks and a new Heavyweight season

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Speaker 2: this fall.