WEBVTT - Steve Sands 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.200 It's the Son of a Butcher podcast from your host, 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.120 Claude Harmon. My guest is one of the voices of 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:08.760 Golf Channel and NBC Golf, and I can't think of 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.560 anyone to talk about the second major of the year 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:17.000 that's just finished up in Quail Hollow, Greensboro. That's how 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.360 much I'm traveling. Surprising, not surprising, Sancy, I mean, Scottie Scheffler. Man, 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.720 it's he's he's good. 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.320 Well, you're great, and it's Charlotte not Greensboro. Come on, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.000 I mean, come on, I've got no Claude Harmon, I mean, 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.479 what are we doing here, Claude, Quail Hollow. Johnny Harris 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:42.200 would be very upset with you to say Greensboro not Charlotte. Look, man, 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:48.600 this guy is relentless. He is a relentless competitor. We 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.440 haven't seen anything like this in quite some time, and 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:55.200 I think this is the first time I can unequivocally 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.520 say when he is at his best, he is the best. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:01.360 I know, he's right number one, and that's an easy 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:03.480 thing to say. But a little bit of question. Rory 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.240 career Grand Slam Xander wins two majors last year. You 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.360 know you never know he'd only won only in quotations 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.440 two majors at the same venue. Now it's a second 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.160 leg of the four. I think he's in a completely 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.440 different category now, Claude, and I don't think it's gonna 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.440 stop anytime soon. Doesn't mean that he's not gonna it 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.600 doesn't mean he's gonna win every time. But I don't 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:28.720 think his relentless pursuit is going to stop anytime soon. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:31.320 Last four seasons, let me just throw some numbers at you. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:37.560 Eighty two starts, forty five top fives, eighteen wins, three majors, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.480 two players championship, won a gold medal. It's missed four cuts. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.440 I think the last cutting miss was in Memphis in 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.880 twenty twenty two. Obviously, plays a lot of tournaments now 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.120 where there are no cuts. Seventy five million in official money, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.280 just past DJ one hundred and forty weeks at world 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:58.080 number one. The obvious comparison when you throw up Steve 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.960 numbers like that is everybody gets compared to Tiger Woods. 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:06.480 And we've always been talking where's the next Tiger Woods? 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.480 And I think, I mean it's a hard comparison because 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:14.400 Tiger did it for almost twenty years fifteen years and dominated. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.480 But in your opinion, is someone that sees Scotty day 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.960 in and day out. You follow him, you commentate on him, 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:25.400 you interview him. Is this as good as we've seen 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.360 from a non Tiger Woods, including the stuff that Rory 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.720 McElroy has done over the last because I think Rory's 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.480 had that career lengthwise, He's you know, was sitting on 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.000 four majors, just got the Grand Slam. I think Rory's 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.840 in a category by himself as well. But the guy 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.400 just we played a practice on DJ, played a practice 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:49.639 round with him and Gary Woodland on Monday, and it's 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:54.239 impressive without being impressive, Like he hits the drive. I 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.480 don't think he gets enough credit for how goody hits 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.720 the driver. I don't think he gets enough credit for 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.880 how long he is. I don't think if short game 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:04.880 gets enough credit. And when you watch him, I think 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.280 because the feet are all over the place, and I 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.760 mean he almost fell down three times. I'm fifteen. He 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.040 hit it on the slope on the par five a 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.720 little above his feet on Monday, and he hit this 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:20.400 beautiful high draw in there almost fell over. But Shane 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:25.360 Lowry said to me last year he's impressive without being impressive. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.720 But the numbers are a joke. How good they are. 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.000 Well, there's nothing worse to me in sports than rubbing 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:35.160 the anointing oil all over somebody before its time. The 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:39.760 comparisons are getting really, really close to being fair, Claude, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.680 like you said, I mean, there have been players, you 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:46.760 know that debate hot versus great. Every good PGA Tour 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.880 players has a hot run. Doesn't mean majors, but he 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.560 has a hot run. But if you look at Padrick 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.480 Harrington three majors in two seasons, Nick Price three majors 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.000 in three seasons, Rory McElroy four majors in three seasons 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.360 eleven to fourteen, four seasons, I guess, Jordan Spieth three 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:08.080 majors from fifteen to seventeen. You know, can Scotty sustain it? 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.320 What's the difference between Scotty and those guys. I mean, 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.280 those guys are all time great players, but they are 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:18.800 not quite in the category of those top ten players 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.280 of all time, top twelve, fifteen players of all time, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:25.800 not just yet except McElroy. Now mclroy has sustained it 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.760 over time. The thing that makes me think that Scotty 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.240 has the ability to sustain this. And remember Claude, this 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:37.279 is crazy. Twenty seven months ago he had no wins 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.960 on the PGA Tour none, none, I mean, think about that, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.240 and now he has, is it right? Twenty seven? When 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.520 did you win twenty two? Yeah? 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.800 Yeah, one in twenty two at Phoenix, which managed it. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.080 So that's three years ago. So we're talking thirty six, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.640 you know, thirty eight months ago he had no wins. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:57.960 Now he has fifteen, including three majors and two players 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.320 that's insane. And when he did and the FedEx Cup 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:05.280 end Player of the Year and number one. And if 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.440 there was a money list, the money list, they don't 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.240 have any and all name and all all of them. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:12.919 By the way, he won a million times when he 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.520 was a kid. He won a million times at Texas. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.760 He took his time a little bit to get out 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.920 of the PGA Tour, little Cornferry Tour action. All of 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.800 a sudden he's blistering the field. Here's what makes me 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.760 think he can sustain this. Rory, I guess from eleven 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.560 to fourteen had this, but not Nick and not Jordan. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.599 If he doesn't win, Claude he's top eight every time. 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:42.880 There's no miscut tye for fifty seventh win, tye for eleventh, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:47.760 tie for fourth, ty for twenty ninth win. It's win 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.640 eighth six, four win win third, ninth six. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:53.920 It's nuts. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:59.000 His consistency is beyond belief. And I do think, I 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.240 really do think we are, without being premature about it, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.520 we're looking at something really really special here in Scotty Well. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.760 We had the hand injury early, so we started late, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.040 and I think the worst finish he has this year 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.320 I was looking at the other day is like twenty 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:15.000 second or twenty fifth, right, and then if you look 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.520 at the stats from last week, you know it's first 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.320 in total strokes game, he's fifth off the tee, fourteenth 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.920 in approach, fifth around the greens, Tita green, he's number one, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.120 twenty third. And putting, I mean there was a time 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.120 a couple of years ago where people were talking about 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.520 he's a bad putter. I'm like, the guy's won eighteen times, yea, 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.200 how the hell can you be a bad putter. But 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:39.720 my point behind it is he doesn't have this thing 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.280 that stands out when you watch Rory McElroy play golf 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.680 and you watch the things that he does. He has 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:52.440 a differentiator. Right, the driver is a huge differentiator, the 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.640 ability that he has to hit the golf behind. And 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.159 I think a lot of players that dominate and that 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.640 are superstars in golf, Sansy have something that you know, 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.480 Jordan was the greatest putter on the planet from twenty 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.280 to forty feet, right, you know these guys when Brooks 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.520 was on his dominant run, he was doing things DJ 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:16.559 dominated with the driver. Scotty dominates because I think he 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.080 is the superpower. I think the way that he goes 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:24.600 about his life, the way he lives his life, both 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:28.200 on and off the golf course, is I think very unique. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.760 He doesn't have social media. He and his wife Mayor 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.480 they play puzzles at night. You know, he's not doing 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.560 the things that a lot of modern day athletes in 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.600 twenty twenty five are doing. You've interviewed him, you've been 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.360 around him. What do you think makes him special as 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:45.120 a person. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.320 I think the most incredible thing about him and the era. Look, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.880 you and I are much older than he is. You know, 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.480 he's twenty eight years old. He's grown up in a 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.520 social media era. He's grown up in a you know, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.440 a posting era. He's grown up in an era where 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.920 whether you're going out for a scoop of ice cream 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.280 or you're going on a cool vacation, that you just 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.440 tell the world exactly what you're doing at all times, 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.040 not in a show off way, but just because that's 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.680 what kids do. That's what people do in this era. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:19.880 I have never been around anybody in sports where and 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:24.000 I mean this sincerely, in all sports. He cares about 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:28.440 winning tournaments and that's it. The endorsements come with play. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:32.800 The social media aspect, as you said, is mil He's 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.400 married to the woman of his dreams. He's got a child, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.800 high separt, his parents are together, his sisters are wonderful. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.440 Did you hear what his dad said on Sunday when 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.600 he hugged him. I'm so proud of you for not 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:48.600 giving up. I'm so proud of you for not giving up. 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:53.480 And that means he understands exactly what Scotty is all about. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:57.040 And Scotty is not going to trip over himself in 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.880 a personal way, and he is all about winning golf tournaments. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.840 He was like that as a junior, he was like 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.959 that in college, and he's liked that as a professional. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:07.880 I'll give you one quick story. We were in Houston 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:12.200 earlier this year. Steven Jeger, the defending champion, beat Scotty 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.640 Scheffler on the last hole a year ago in twenty 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.120 twenty four. So I was on the practice putting green 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.240 on Wednesday in Houston with Steven Jaeger. Say Steven, what's 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.880 the key to playing with Scotty? What's it like playing 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.560 with Scotty right now? And he said, I'll tell you what. 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.040 He's not intimidating to play with, like Tiger was intimidating 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.160 to play with, and Scott he's not intimidating to play with. 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:37.679 That said, really, why is that he goes? Because he's 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.640 just such a nice guy. He's congenial, he's polite. He's 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.079 not a slow player, he's not a fast player. He 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.400 does the right things out on the golf course. He says, 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.079 nice shot, He'll chat with you a little bit when 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.560 he gets focused. He's focused. But he's not an intimidating person. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:56.040 He goes, but his greatness is intimidating. His shot making 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.000 is intimidating. And when you see his knee, this is 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:02.079 in Houston, this is he had not yet won this year, Claude, 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.040 he said, when you see his name on a leaderboard, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.319 you say, here we go again, And this is from 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.520 a professional golfer who beat him a year ago. So 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.720 Scotty is a singularly focused man when it comes to 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.840 his professional golf. He also has his life in order 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.560 at home, seemingly too much in order for a twenty 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.720 eight year old guy, but you know that's up to him. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.079 And right now, you know it's going to be very, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.679 very very difficult to stop him if he is playing 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.760 his best. And he sure played very very well, especially 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.440 late on Saturday. One quick thing, Claude, And you know 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:42.000 this more than anybody. I think he won that tournament. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:48.480 He won that championship on Thursday, yeap one the greats 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.040 of the great even good PJA tour players don't always 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.000 do this, but the greats do this. They take seventy 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.880 fives and make them seventy twos. They take seventy twos 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.800 and make them sixty nines. And he he took a 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.240 day on Thursday where he was hitting all over the 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.800 place and really really scored his golf ball. Then he 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.199 had the three hole stretch on Saturday to give him 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.880 the cushion which allowed him to hit the ball left 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.559 like a fifteen handicap every single drive on Sunday for 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.280 the first nine holes, and then as if he's a 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.480 team sport athlete. He can't walk to the mound to 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.400 talk to the pitcher. He can't take a twenty or 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.960 a thirty or a full time out in basketball. He 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.480 can't just call a timeout like you do in hockey. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.080 In golf, he can't do that. He reset things on 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.840 the back nine when John Ron caught him, and the 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.280 thing was over thirty minutes later, and that just speaks 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.840 to how great he is. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:45.000 You mentioned on Thursday in the caddy area on Friday morning, 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.640 because DJ was late early, I was in there and 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:54.320 very much like Tiger, very much like Rory, everybody, the caddies, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:57.480 the coaches, the players that were in there, everybody around 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.480 the game was talking about what he did on Thursday. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:05.920 And I don't think the fans see it the way 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.720 that we see it because we know that it's the ultimate. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.720 You can lose a major on the first day, you 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.080 can't win it. But he did something that everybody that's 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.920 in the game just went, wow, do you see that 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.160 finish from Scotty yesterday? And they all just smile and 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.240 they shake their head. His caddy Ted Scott, who won 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:31.640 two Masters with Bubba Watson. He's got five now five 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.480 Majors that he's caddy four. He said. He doesn't care 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:37.120 about the fame. He doesn't care about the money. Yes, 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:40.000 he gets paid, but what inspires him is so pure. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.959 It's almost like he's an amateur playing for the love 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.920 of the game and the love of the competition. It's 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.720 like he's Bobby Jones. I think the Ted Scott addition 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.200 has been massive for Scotty Sheffler. My uncle Billy, who 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:55.800 you know well, I've had him on the podcast. I 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.000 asked him, was it take to be a great caddy? 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:01.840 He said, find a great player. Scotty Scheffler was going 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.560 to be a great But I think the team that 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.040 he and Ted Scott are on the golf course. They 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:11.320 are both very similar people, very much grounded in faith 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:16.559 and church, and they live their life in private and 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.959 in a lot of ways. Say, he reminds me a 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.120 little bit of Adam Scott, In't that. I remember when 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:22.800 Adam Scott went to number one in the world and 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.440 won the Masters. We were having dinner like three weeks later 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.200 or a month later at the Players and we're all 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:29.600 sitting there and I was like, Hey, so, what are 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.120 you been doing. He was like, oh, well, Marie and 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.360 I got married the other day. I'm like, you're the 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.240 number one golfer in the world. You've just won the Masters. 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.600 And I think Scotty Scheffler is a great example in 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.200 twenty twenty five that if you really want to live 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.400 your life in private, it's pretty easy. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:47.840 Without question. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.760 He's the number one golfer on the planet and he 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.240 moves around with an ease. And I also think that 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:01.640 that helps him massively because I think he feels the pressure, 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.320 but I don't think I think he looks at it 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.240 very differently than some other professional athlete. He doesn't seem 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:09.600 burdened by the pressure. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.880 No, I think he embraces the pressure. He doesn't fight it. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.800 I asked your father one time, what's the key to 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.240 being a great instructor, and he said, very similar to 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.680 being a great caddie. Obviously you find a great player. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:26.160 He goes. But it's part instruction and part sports psychologist. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.560 And Ted Scott is the right sounding board for Scotty. 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:35.960 He's the right religious you know, nature, the right demeanor 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.840 for him, knows when to talk Texas football, with him, 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.560 knows when to talk four iron off of a side, 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:48.920 he'll alive with him, understands his subject as well as anybody. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.000 And that's a credit to Ted. But it's also a 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.920 credit to Scotty because Scotty doesn't have to listen to anybody. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.240 He can do whatever the heck he wants because he's 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.440 that great. And I think that, you know, I was 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:00.920 thinking about this the other day. I don't know why 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.560 if Full Swing came out next year as opposed to 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:09.120 three years ago, Scotty wouldn't have agreed to do it. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.960 He's not that kind of guy. And I think he 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.000 probably I've never asked him about this, but I think 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.640 he watched it and said, you know what, I'm not 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.640 comfortable with that. And he did nothing wrong. It was 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.200 perfectly fine, and the Full Swing show was great. It's 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.240 been great for golf. But I just don't think that's 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.920 Scotty's cup of tea. And I think Scotty is the 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.560 kind of guy who is a rinse and repeat guy. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.680 He's going to celebrate with Meredith Bennett, his parents, his sister, 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.720 Randy Blake, his team and everybody, and then he's going 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.200 to move along and he'll show up probably at the 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.440 Canadian Open or wherever he shows up next, the US 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.400 Open at Oakmah, the Memorial, wherever he shows up next, 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:51.800 and just practice, practice, pro am, play four days and 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.400 let's see what happens. I just think that he is 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:59.040 motivated by greatness. He's not motivated by anything else. I 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:02.040 also think I think he knows that it was a 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.040 big deal to win one of the other three majors. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.800 When you win like John Rahm. It was a very 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.720 big deal for John to win the US Open and 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.280 the Masters. It's a very big deal. Obviously Rory in 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.920 the Grand Slam, but when you know there are a 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:18.280 lot of guys who've won two of the same Greg Norman, 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.360 Andy North, Lee Jansen, all fabulous players. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.360 But when you really want. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.600 To put yourself in a different category, you got to 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.920 perform in the other ones as well. You can't just 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.920 be a one trick pony, and Scotty certainly is not 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.840 a one trick pony man. He if it wasn't golf claude, 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:37.920 you'd call him a baller. He's a baller man. He 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.640 just wants to kick your butt and rip your heart out, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.120 and he does it with a smile. And in a 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:48.920 congenial manner, and my goodness, is he great. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.320 You mentioned Randy Smith. He and Randy have been working 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.880 together since he was seven years old. Randy Smith's son, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.880 Blake Smith, he's his agent. He's also the agent or 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:01.920 Rooks Kepta. I know Blake very well. I know Randy 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.960 very well. Randy is very much in the instructor coach 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.560 vein like my father is very old school. They don't 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:13.040 have a lot of gadgets and stuff that influence. I 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:16.080 talked to Randy and we were talking on Friday, and 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.560 I was asking him, you know, his attention to detail. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.080 And I talked about this on a podcast that I 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.359 did last week where we were talking about Scotty his 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.240 attention to detail with the grip and the way he 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.439 always kind of goes back to the range and stuff. 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.639 I asked Randy about that and he said, we've changed 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.120 his grip two times. And I was like, okay, cool, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.560 tell me about it. He goes, yeah, once when he 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.919 was thirteen, and I'm like, and then once when he 0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.280 was in college, and I'm like, that is just so 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:48.919 unbelievably rare in the modern game. His golf swing is 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.879 unique in that it's a little bit of kind of 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.320 a throwback in that there are so many players. When 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.639 you walk up and down the PGA tour now, you 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.159 don't see funky grips anymore. You don't see the all 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.480 asier type swings. You see everybody kind of the same 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.040 size as Scutty now, but they all put the golf 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.440 club in a beautiful position, like Adam Scott or Tommy Fleetwood. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.480 And I love the fact that at all of the majors, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:18.000 regardless it seems as to how he plays, he's always 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.199 back at the range working on something. There is a 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:25.520 simplicity in the things that he and Randy work on. 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:28.880 The role of having someone like Randy Smith, who's been 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.400 his coach since he was seven, I think is yet 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.840 another example of just kind of who he is and 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:39.919 the way that he values people and things off the 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:40.480 golf course. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:45.080 He likes consistency, he likes normalcy, and he likes to 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.560 be comfortable, and he's very comfortable with his team. He's 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.159 very comfortable in the way he lives his life. Like 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.720 you said, and what's amazing to me about the Randy 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.720 and Scotty relationship is I think and you could speak 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.040 to this way more than me. But your first inclination 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:06.160 is to always try to lend your expertise in whatever 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.520 field it is. You are one of the great instructors 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.960 in the world. Randy is one of the great instructors 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:14.560 in the world. You instruct, So if I came to 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.879 you down to the Floridian and needed a lesson, you 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.439 would instruct. And that's what you do, whatever the level is. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.359 Randy has told me numerous times. I joke with him 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.120 about the footwork and the swing isn't exactly right where 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.919 it's supposed to be, and the grip, the whole thing that. 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.520 He just kind of looks at me laugh He goes, 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.240 you gonna change that? What do you want to do 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.080 with that? What am I supposed to do with that? 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.960 And I think it's just I think it speaks to 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:44.040 Randy's expertise and his confidence in himself. I also think, 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.600 and this is a big thing with me, I'm old again. 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.199 I'm going to say that again. Analytics has become so 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:53.040 big in sports. Science has become so big in sports. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.680 I think sometimes we lose sight. I'm not against it, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.840 but I think sometimes we lose sight of the fact. 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.200 No matter whether it's an individual sport like golfer, tennis, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:03.560 or the team sports. I think we lose sight of 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:09.560 the fact of momentum, adrenaline, conditions, time and date, whatever's 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.439 going on. Is your wife sick at home? Is she 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.880 pregnant and going to be do any time? Who knows 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.520 what's going on in your life. Sometimes science and data 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.080 can't do that. And when I see Scotti Scheffler, I 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:24.159 see an artist and not a scientist. And to me, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:29.120 the greats of all time in this sport are artists 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.840 and not scientists. Because at the end of the day, 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.720 when you've got to pull one out and John Rahm 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.440 has tied you, and he's won two majors, and he's 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.240 playing great, and you're playing like a dog, and you're 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.359 two over through nine and you're hitting every shot left 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.600 for whatever reason, when you've got to pull one out, 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.400 you've got to rely on your ability, your confidence, and 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.600 just the artistry of the sport whatever it is you're playing, 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.359 in this case golf, and not the analytics and the 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:00.760 data and the science. So point you just got to 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.760 step up there and be a man. And that's what 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:05.280 Scotty did on the back nine yesterday, and it just 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:09.520 proves everything that he and Randy have talked about privately 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.400 and publicly for years. This is how I play, Come 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.880 get me. And he played great on those last night 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.800 holes after playing the first night holes not so great. 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.720 I mean, it was not looking great for him there 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.119 for a second. There's no way you can convince me 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.639 that when John Ram tied him with all that momentum 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.160 and guys were getting to within one and two shots 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.119 and Scotty was hitting the ball all over the place, 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:36.560 I don't know, man, it was looking squirrely, and he 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:38.960 stepped up. And I think that, to me speaks to 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.760 his inner confidence and his ability to adjust. And I 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.720 think if you rely too much on science, too much 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.359 on data, too much on analytics in sports, at some 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.480 point that could get in your way. What can never 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:56.400