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Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butcher podcast from your host,

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Speaker 1: Claude Harmon. My guest is one of the voices of

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Speaker 1: Golf Channel and NBC Golf, and I can't think of

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Speaker 1: anyone to talk about the second major of the year

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Speaker 1: that's just finished up in Quail Hollow, Greensboro. That's how

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Speaker 1: much I'm traveling. Surprising, not surprising, Sancy, I mean, Scottie Scheffler. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's he's he's good.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're great, and it's Charlotte not Greensboro. Come on,

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I've got no Claude Harmon, I mean,

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Speaker 2: what are we doing here, Claude, Quail Hollow. Johnny Harris

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Speaker 2: would be very upset with you to say Greensboro not Charlotte. Look, man,

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Speaker 2: this guy is relentless. He is a relentless competitor. We

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Speaker 2: haven't seen anything like this in quite some time, and

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Speaker 2: I think this is the first time I can unequivocally

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Speaker 2: say when he is at his best, he is the best.

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Speaker 2: I know, he's right number one, and that's an easy

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Speaker 2: thing to say. But a little bit of question. Rory

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Speaker 2: career Grand Slam Xander wins two majors last year. You

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Speaker 2: know you never know he'd only won only in quotations

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Speaker 2: two majors at the same venue. Now it's a second

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Speaker 2: leg of the four. I think he's in a completely

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Speaker 2: different category now, Claude, and I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 2: stop anytime soon. Doesn't mean that he's not gonna it

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean he's gonna win every time. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think his relentless pursuit is going to stop anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Last four seasons, let me just throw some numbers at you.

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Speaker 1: Eighty two starts, forty five top fives, eighteen wins, three majors,

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Speaker 1: two players championship, won a gold medal. It's missed four cuts.

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Speaker 1: I think the last cutting miss was in Memphis in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Obviously, plays a lot of tournaments now

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Speaker 1: where there are no cuts. Seventy five million in official money,

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Speaker 1: just past DJ one hundred and forty weeks at world

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Speaker 1: number one. The obvious comparison when you throw up Steve

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Speaker 1: numbers like that is everybody gets compared to Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 1: And we've always been talking where's the next Tiger Woods?

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Speaker 1: And I think, I mean it's a hard comparison because

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Speaker 1: Tiger did it for almost twenty years fifteen years and dominated.

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Speaker 1: But in your opinion, is someone that sees Scotty day

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Speaker 1: in and day out. You follow him, you commentate on him,

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Speaker 1: you interview him. Is this as good as we've seen

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Speaker 1: from a non Tiger Woods, including the stuff that Rory

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Speaker 1: McElroy has done over the last because I think Rory's

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Speaker 1: had that career lengthwise, He's you know, was sitting on

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Speaker 1: four majors, just got the Grand Slam. I think Rory's

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Speaker 1: in a category by himself as well. But the guy

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Speaker 1: just we played a practice on DJ, played a practice

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Speaker 1: round with him and Gary Woodland on Monday, and it's

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Speaker 1: impressive without being impressive, Like he hits the drive. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he gets enough credit for how goody hits

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Speaker 1: the driver. I don't think he gets enough credit for

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Speaker 1: how long he is. I don't think if short game

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Speaker 1: gets enough credit. And when you watch him, I think

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Speaker 1: because the feet are all over the place, and I

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Speaker 1: mean he almost fell down three times. I'm fifteen. He

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Speaker 1: hit it on the slope on the par five a

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Speaker 1: little above his feet on Monday, and he hit this

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Speaker 1: beautiful high draw in there almost fell over. But Shane

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Speaker 1: Lowry said to me last year he's impressive without being impressive.

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Speaker 1: But the numbers are a joke. How good they are.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing worse to me in sports than rubbing

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Speaker 2: the anointing oil all over somebody before its time. The

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Speaker 2: comparisons are getting really, really close to being fair, Claude,

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Speaker 2: like you said, I mean, there have been players, you

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Speaker 2: know that debate hot versus great. Every good PGA Tour

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Speaker 2: players has a hot run. Doesn't mean majors, but he

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Speaker 2: has a hot run. But if you look at Padrick

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Speaker 2: Harrington three majors in two seasons, Nick Price three majors

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Speaker 2: in three seasons, Rory McElroy four majors in three seasons

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Speaker 2: eleven to fourteen, four seasons, I guess, Jordan Spieth three

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Speaker 2: majors from fifteen to seventeen. You know, can Scotty sustain it?

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Speaker 2: What's the difference between Scotty and those guys. I mean,

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Speaker 2: those guys are all time great players, but they are

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Speaker 2: not quite in the category of those top ten players

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Speaker 2: of all time, top twelve, fifteen players of all time,

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Speaker 2: not just yet except McElroy. Now mclroy has sustained it

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Speaker 2: over time. The thing that makes me think that Scotty

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Speaker 2: has the ability to sustain this. And remember Claude, this

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Speaker 2: is crazy. Twenty seven months ago he had no wins

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Speaker 2: on the PGA Tour none, none, I mean, think about that,

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Speaker 2: and now he has, is it right? Twenty seven? When

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Speaker 2: did you win twenty two? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one in twenty two at Phoenix, which managed it.

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Speaker 2: So that's three years ago. So we're talking thirty six,

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Speaker 2: you know, thirty eight months ago he had no wins.

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Speaker 2: Now he has fifteen, including three majors and two players

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Speaker 2: that's insane. And when he did and the FedEx Cup

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Speaker 2: end Player of the Year and number one. And if

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Speaker 2: there was a money list, the money list, they don't

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Speaker 2: By the way, he won a million times when he

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Speaker 2: was a kid. He won a million times at Texas.

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Speaker 2: He took his time a little bit to get out

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Speaker 2: of the PGA Tour, little Cornferry Tour action. All of

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Speaker 2: a sudden he's blistering the field. Here's what makes me

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Speaker 2: think he can sustain this. Rory, I guess from eleven

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Speaker 2: to fourteen had this, but not Nick and not Jordan.

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Speaker 2: If he doesn't win, Claude he's top eight every time.

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Speaker 2: There's no miscut tye for fifty seventh win, tye for eleventh,

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Speaker 2: tie for fourth, ty for twenty ninth win. It's win

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Speaker 2: eighth six, four win win third, ninth six.

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Speaker 1: It's nuts.

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Speaker 2: His consistency is beyond belief. And I do think, I

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Speaker 2: really do think we are, without being premature about it,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at something really really special here in Scotty Well.

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Speaker 1: We had the hand injury early, so we started late,

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Speaker 1: and I think the worst finish he has this year

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Speaker 1: I was looking at the other day is like twenty

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Speaker 1: at the stats from last week, you know it's first

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Speaker 1: in total strokes game, he's fifth off the tee, fourteenth

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Speaker 1: twenty third. And putting, I mean there was a time

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Speaker 1: he's a bad putter. I'm like, the guy's won eighteen times, yea,

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Speaker 1: how the hell can you be a bad putter. But

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Speaker 1: my point behind it is he doesn't have this thing

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Speaker 1: that stands out when you watch Rory McElroy play golf

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Speaker 1: and you watch the things that he does. He has

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Speaker 1: a differentiator. Right, the driver is a huge differentiator, the

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Speaker 1: ability that he has to hit the golf behind. And

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of players that dominate and that

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Speaker 1: are superstars in golf, Sansy have something that you know,

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Speaker 1: Jordan was the greatest putter on the planet from twenty

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Speaker 1: to forty feet, right, you know these guys when Brooks

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Speaker 1: was on his dominant run, he was doing things DJ

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Speaker 1: dominated with the driver. Scotty dominates because I think he

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Speaker 1: is the superpower. I think the way that he goes

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Speaker 1: on and off the golf course, is I think very unique.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have social media. He and his wife Mayor

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Speaker 1: they play puzzles at night. You know, he's not doing

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Speaker 1: the things that a lot of modern day athletes in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five are doing. You've interviewed him, you've been

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Speaker 1: around him. What do you think makes him special as

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Speaker 1: a person.

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Speaker 2: I think the most incredible thing about him and the era. Look,

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Speaker 2: you and I are much older than he is. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's twenty eight years old. He's grown up in a

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Speaker 2: social media era. He's grown up in a you know,

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Speaker 2: a posting era. He's grown up in an era where

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Speaker 2: whether you're going out for a scoop of ice cream

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Speaker 2: tell the world exactly what you're doing at all times,

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Speaker 2: not in a show off way, but just because that's

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Speaker 2: what kids do. That's what people do in this era.

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Speaker 2: I have never been around anybody in sports where and

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Speaker 2: I mean this sincerely, in all sports. He cares about

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Speaker 2: winning tournaments and that's it. The endorsements come with play.

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Speaker 2: The social media aspect, as you said, is mil He's

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Speaker 2: married to the woman of his dreams. He's got a child,

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Speaker 2: high separt, his parents are together, his sisters are wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear what his dad said on Sunday when

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Speaker 2: he hugged him. I'm so proud of you for not

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Speaker 2: giving up. I'm so proud of you for not giving up.

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Speaker 2: And that means he understands exactly what Scotty is all about.

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Speaker 2: And Scotty is not going to trip over himself in

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Speaker 2: a personal way, and he is all about winning golf tournaments.

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Speaker 2: He was like that as a junior, he was like

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Speaker 2: that in college, and he's liked that as a professional.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you one quick story. We were in Houston

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Speaker 2: earlier this year. Steven Jeger, the defending champion, beat Scotty

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Speaker 2: Scheffler on the last hole a year ago in twenty

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday in Houston with Steven Jaeger. Say Steven, what's

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Speaker 2: the key to playing with Scotty? What's it like playing

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Speaker 2: with Scotty right now? And he said, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: He's not intimidating to play with, like Tiger was intimidating

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Speaker 2: to play with, and Scott he's not intimidating to play with.

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Speaker 2: That said, really, why is that he goes? Because he's

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Speaker 2: just such a nice guy. He's congenial, he's polite. He's

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Speaker 2: not a slow player, he's not a fast player. He

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Speaker 2: does the right things out on the golf course. He says,

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Speaker 2: he gets focused. He's focused. But he's not an intimidating person.

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Speaker 2: He goes, but his greatness is intimidating. His shot making

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Speaker 2: is intimidating. And when you see his knee, this is

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Speaker 2: in Houston, this is he had not yet won this year, Claude,

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Speaker 2: he said, when you see his name on a leaderboard,

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Speaker 2: you say, here we go again, And this is from

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Speaker 2: a professional golfer who beat him a year ago. So

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Speaker 2: Scotty is a singularly focused man when it comes to

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Speaker 2: his professional golf. He also has his life in order

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Speaker 2: at home, seemingly too much in order for a twenty

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Speaker 2: eight year old guy, but you know that's up to him.

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Speaker 2: And right now, you know it's going to be very,

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Speaker 2: very very difficult to stop him if he is playing

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Speaker 2: his best. And he sure played very very well, especially

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Speaker 2: late on Saturday. One quick thing, Claude, And you know

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Speaker 2: this more than anybody. I think he won that tournament.

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Speaker 2: He won that championship on Thursday, yeap one the greats

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Speaker 2: of the great even good PJA tour players don't always

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Speaker 2: do this, but the greats do this. They take seventy

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Speaker 2: fives and make them seventy twos. They take seventy twos

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Speaker 2: and make them sixty nines. And he he took a

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Speaker 2: day on Thursday where he was hitting all over the

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Speaker 2: place and really really scored his golf ball. Then he

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Speaker 2: had the three hole stretch on Saturday to give him

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Speaker 2: the cushion which allowed him to hit the ball left

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Speaker 2: like a fifteen handicap every single drive on Sunday for

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Speaker 2: the first nine holes, and then as if he's a

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Speaker 2: team sport athlete. He can't walk to the mound to

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Speaker 2: talk to the pitcher. He can't take a twenty or

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Speaker 2: can't just call a timeout like you do in hockey.

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Speaker 2: In golf, he can't do that. He reset things on

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Speaker 2: the back nine when John Ron caught him, and the

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Speaker 2: thing was over thirty minutes later, and that just speaks

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Speaker 2: to how great he is.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned on Thursday in the caddy area on Friday morning,

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Speaker 1: because DJ was late early, I was in there and

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Speaker 1: very much like Tiger, very much like Rory, everybody, the caddies,

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Speaker 1: comment from Teddy Scott, Hey, just maybe just a little

427
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Speaker 1: bit more right. No one thinks that, like everybody's gonna think, okay,

428
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Speaker 1: is my angle of attack to Steve am I coming

429
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Speaker 1: too much from me into out Teddy, Scott just goes, Hey,

430
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Speaker 1: just aim more to the right. I thought it was

431
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Speaker 1: great blud.

432
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: In baseball, a pitching coach can go to the mound

433
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: and say, hey, listen, I'm just seeing that that that

434
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: index finger is just a little bit off and you're

435
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: you're not You're falling off to the left side, and

436
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: that's why your your pitches are not going over the plate.

437
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: In basketball, in hockey, in football, in all these different sports,

438
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: you can have a coach or a teammate or somebody

439
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 2: say something to you, correct me if I'm wrong, unless

440
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: they've changed things at the turn. Scotty can't go over

441
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: to Randy Smith and outside the ropes and go, hey, Randy,

442
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 2: anything you see here because every drive is going left. Now,

443
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: that's not how it works in golf. So to me,

444
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: that speaks vaults to not only the confidence and trust

445
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: that Ted has to say something like that, but the

446
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: confidence and the ability that Scotty has to take a

447
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: half step back and go, yeah, you know what, let's

448
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: do that, and then it feels good and then he goes.

449
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: I just think that there's a lot to him in

450
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: a very simplistic way, and it is wonderful to watch,

451
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: and I know we're going crazy here talking about him. McElroy.

452
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: We were talking about him the day after the Masters,

453
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: after winning the career Grand Slam, but he goes about

454
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: his business in a different way. I think those two

455
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: have separated themselves from the rest of the guys right now.

456
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: Things could change, you know, Xander could change and get

457
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: back on track and all these different guys. But right now,

458
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: it's the Scotty and Rory show and going to Oakmont

459
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: I think is going to be a lot of fun because,

460
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: as you said, I don't think there's a lot stopping

461
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: Scotty right now other than Rory. If Rory does figure

462
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: out that driver for whatever reason, he did not play

463
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: well last week a Quel Hollow, so you know who knows.

464
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: But Scottie right now is just awesome, awesome, all right, So.

465
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Speaker 1: Put you on the spot who ends their career with

466
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Speaker 1: more majors. We've got Brooks at five, yeah, got three

467
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Speaker 1: at five. We've got Scotty and Jordan at three, Rom Bryson, Xander,

468
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: Maricoo and JT at two. So if you had to

469
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: put your money on it right now, because again we

470
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: can sit here and argue and talk and debate about

471
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: the Tiger Scotty comparisons, but you can't go back in

472
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Speaker 1: time and bring prime Tiger to this year. Right now.

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Speaker 1: I think ry McElroy is you know, I mean, just

474
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: won the Grand Slam. I don't think his best golf

475
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: is behind him. I think he's still going to be

476
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: a favorite to win every major for the next five years.

477
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Speaker 1: So out of that group, who you putting your money

478
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: on to have and what's the ceiling, right? Who gets

479
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: to seven? Who gets to maybe eight? Can one of

480
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: these guys get to double digits.

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Speaker 2: I think Rory is going to get to seven, maybe eight.

482
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: I think Scotty's eight years younger, maybe seven years younger,

483
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: I believe, and I think Scotty will pass him. Brooks

484
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: is just so great at these big events. I think

485
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: that there might be another one in there for Brooks

486
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: to get to six. They're just so hard to win.

487
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: Would Jack famously tell me one time, Let me get

488
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 2: this right, you can't find your game at a major.

489
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 2: You have to bring your game to a major, is

490
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: what Jack once told me. So you get four shots

491
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: out of the year, you've got to be prepped and

492
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: ready to go. But if I had to put my

493
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: house on one guy, even though he's two behind Brooks

494
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: and Rory. Right now, I think he's only twenty eight

495
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: years of age, and because of all the things we've

496
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: already talked about, his life is perfectly in order. Everything

497
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: right now is seemingly working for Scotty. If he stays healthy,

498
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: I think Scotty will surpass Brooks and Rory, and I

499
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: think he would be the one in that group anyway

500
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Speaker 2: who could potentially get to double digits. Potentially, but there's

501
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: a long long way to go. When we left twenty

502
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 2: fourteen and McElroy had already won three of the four

503
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 2: legs of the Crater, I thought he'd have ten by

504
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 2: now two. And you just never know. You just never know.

505
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 2: I do think, however, I do think Claude, and maybe

506
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm wrong, but I think what happened in the last

507
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 2: eleven years at the Majors, not the regular events, because

508
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: Rory certainly won a bunch, but at the Majors he

509
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: might do what he was supposed to do in the

510
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: next eleven years from thirty five to forty six, that

511
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: he was supposed to do from twenty four to thirty

512
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: five and end up with seven or eight majors, which

513
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: is what we all thought was going to happen. Maybe

514
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 2: even ten, who knows. But I think McElroy is in

515
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: a different category than everybody else out there, except for Scotty,

516
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: but I probably just because of age and opportunities going forward.

517
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: I would have to say, even though he's two behind

518
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: him right now, I would say Scotty if I had

519
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 2: to put my house on it. You, Yeah, I mean,

520
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely think Rom is going to be

522
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: a factor. I think Bryson is definitely going to be

523
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Speaker 1: a factor. Just before I get to Bryson and Rom.

524
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Speaker 1: Strange week for Rory, the driver's testing issue didn't play

525
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: well and no media for four days. Shane and Rorty

526
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: have both commented that they think that sometimes golf is

527
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: a little different than other sports. That in other sports

528
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: it's mandatory, right, you can't skip right like NFL, NBA,

529
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: you have to. It's contractual, it's in the contract you

530
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: have to do media. Rory chose to do no media

531
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Speaker 1: for four days. Masters Champion.

532
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: You make anything of that, Yeah, I think it's bad.

533
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad look. But I also think

534
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: that people need to understand this. This is a very

535
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: clear distinction here between the athletes and the media and

536
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: the world of golf. They don't owe the media anything.

537
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: They do owe the golf world something, and the media

538
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: happens to be the conduit between the greatest players in

539
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: the world and the golf world. So to me, a

540
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: player cannot just talk when things are going great. A

541
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: player has got to stand there and take it. Greg

542
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: Norman in ninety six, Ernie else in two thousand and four,

543
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: Jean van Develd in ninety nine, go back in all time,

544
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, you name it. Guys have to stand Phil

545
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: Mickelson and six at wingfoot. You gotta stand there and

546
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: take it, because, you know what, whether it's mandatory or not,

547
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: it's part of the job. You have sponsors, you have fans,

548
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: and you have the golf world at large, and the

549
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 2: media happens to be the conduit between you and them.

550
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: You don't owe the media anything, but I do think

551
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: you owe the golf world something. And I think it

552
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: was a mistake. I think he made a mistake last

553
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: year at Pinehurst, and I think he made a mistake

554
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: this past week. All four days. To me, that's weird.

555
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: But I will say the face of the driver issue, Claude,

556
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: This sport can be so great in its traditions, but

557
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: it can also be so stupid in his traditions. Can

558
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: we get some transparency? Can we test every week? Can

559
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: we test every driver every week? Because you're killing the player.

560
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: You are allowing these wackos on social media to say

561
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: stupid things like, well, Rory cheated to win the Masters

562
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: because he didn't have a driver that was conforming. Rory

563
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: didn't cheat, Scott, he didn't cheat. It happens every week.

564
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: You and I know this. Xander Schafflee at Royal Port

565
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: Rush didn't cheat and he was hearing it from some people.

566
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: You and I both know this. Everybody in and around

567
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: professional golf knows that these guys get tested, but not

568
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: every one of them does. And they all should be tested.

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00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: And the USGA, the PGA of America, the R and N,

570
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour, Live Golf, everybody in the ecosystem DP

571
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: World Tour, everybody in the ecosystem of professional golf should

572
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: be transparent with suspensions and with fines, with slow play,

573
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: and also with this, the idea that you're protecting the

574
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: player is just a false narrative. This is not thirty

575
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: years ago. Social media stuff travels and bad stuff can

576
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: happen when you're not transparent, and I think it's unfair

577
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: to the players. It's unfair to Rory, unfair to Scotty

578
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: and every other player who has a driver taken away

579
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: unbeknownst to them. They did not cheat, and the RNA

580
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: and the USGA should absolutely be transparent with that, and

581
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: they should test every driver, not the third of the field.

582
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. They got to change that club.

583
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, I think it was Tuesday.

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00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: We're at the Masters, were on the driving range. My

585
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: dad and I were talking to Phil and Phil was

586
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: hitting I've already said, but you I've never driven it better.

587
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm driving it long and everything. They tested his driver

588
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. He was twenty minutes late for the for

589
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: the game that he was going to play with DJ,

590
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: and his driver got taken out. First thing that happened.

591
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: DJ's on the range. It's either Monday or early Tuesday.

592
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: I think it was Tuesday they came and tested his driver.

593
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: I agree with you that the governing bodies of the

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00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: four Majors, I do think have an obligation to make

595
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: it so as it doesn't look to the fans, right,

596
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: these guys are doing something wrong that the exactly work

597
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: that you know, they're stealing signs like they do in

598
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: other sports. I do think that four times a year

599
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: they could test everybody's driver if that's an issue.

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00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a one hundred Hey, test all you want.

601
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: But protect the player, yeah, sure. Now, if a player's cheating,

602
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: then a player's cheating. This is not a player cheating.

603
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: This is not someone nudging a ball or doing something goofy.

604
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: This is a testing issue with drivers in new technology

605
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: and thin club faces, and sometimes after you hit that

606
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: driver for a year like Scotty has a billion times,

607
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: it's not going to be conforming and the player does

608
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: not know that. So enough already with throwing these players

609
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: under the bus, it's ridiculous that the governing bodies don't

610
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 2: protect them, in my opinion, in this particular instance, if

611
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: a player cheats by the way, Claude, hey, I'm all

612
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: four you knowing it. Social media can know it, but

613
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: in this particular case, protect the players. Man, It's just

614
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: not right.

615
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. And here's the thing. I mean, there's nobody out

616
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Speaker 1: there with their drivers. I mean, I've been on tour,

617
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: gone to a truck from a manufacturer, And today I've

618
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: got a junior player I'm working with. Any chance that

619
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: you could build a driver for him and they will

620
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: look at the numbers on the driver and go, yeah,

621
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: give him this one. Because he's a junior golfer. It

622
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't pass a test on the PGA Tour. A tour

623
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: player couldn't use it. So yeah, because the face is

624
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: just a little bit hot and we would never run

625
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: the risk of giving that to a player.

626
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Of course.

627
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Bryson, Yeah, the fans seem to love this guy. Is

628
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: Bryson a needle mover in the game right now?

629
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Speaker 2: I think Bryson Rory And interestingly, Scotty's greatness is starting

630
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: to catch on. Not his personality per se, like Stephen

631
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Jeger said, and the raw ross stuff and the fist

632
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: pumps and the yelling and screaming, but his greatness is

633
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: the CJ Cup, which he won by a million shots.

634
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 2: The ratings were way way up and he had a

635
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: huge lead. So I was always I'm not a huge

636
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: ratings guy, but it is interesting to see if Scotty

637
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: can jump into that. Fray Bryson as popular as anybody

638
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: in the world of golf, whether you want to call

639
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: them antics or just energy. Uh, it's it's it's infectious.

640
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: And he gives the people what they want called. He

641
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: high fives and low fives kids as he walks from

642
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: greens to Te's. You know, he he gets them pumped

643
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: up doing his you know thing with the hands in

644
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: the air. And you know what, he's good for the

645
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: game man, you know. I mean, people can say what

646
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: they want, whether they think it's genuine or not, whether

647
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: they think it's a fraud or not. Get to know

648
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: him a little bit. He's a little different than most

649
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: people think. Is he a little bit on the quirky side,

650
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: a little bit on the odter side, the most normal normal,

651
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: normal normal people. Yeah, but you know what, he's an

652
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: extraordinary talent. And he also has a mind that probably

653
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you but I can't fathom being that bright.

654
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: I can't have him being that bright. And I think

655
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: he's become a very very popular player. You can make

656
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: a strong case he's one two three as far as

657
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: popularity in the world.

658
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: He's the complete one hundred and eighty degree opposite of

659
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: Scotti Scheffler. He lives his life openly, he's using social media.

660
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: What do you notice about his game that is impressing you,

661
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: because I mean he's been all over the map like

662
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: he's been. He was doing long drive. He got finished

663
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: second the World Long Dry Championship. I mean he got

664
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: Remember when we came back from COVID, he looked like

665
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: a high school middle linebacker. But as someone that watches

666
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: his game, what has impressed you about the arc and

667
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: the evolution of his game.

668
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: I think his short game is outrageous. With six irons,

669
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: by the way exactly he bombs the ball off the tee.

670
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: He hits the ball incredibly high. You know, the wind

671
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 2: catches it a lot because he hits such a high ball.

672
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: But his short game, his chipping and pitching claude are remarkable,

673
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean outrageously great. And what happens is when guys

674
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: are bombing the ball and they're crushing the ball and

675
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: the driving part of the game is so sexy, and

676
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: the short game is not as sexy as far as

677
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: watching it goes. It gets lost in the shuffle, and

678
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: I think people don't understand and they're getting a great

679
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: understanding of it now at just how amazing his short

680
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: game is. I also think that you know, his work

681
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 2: ethic is second to none. Now, it's not exactly the

682
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: work ethic that I would probably take. It's not the

683
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: work ethic that you would probably take, but it works

684
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: for him. Scotty not on social media, Bryson is Scotty

685
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: would never hit golf balls over his house. He doesn't

686
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 2: want anybody seeing where he lives. Bryson hits golf balls

687
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: over his house, goes on YouTube, has millions of followers

688
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: and has a great time with it. Hey, different strokes

689
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: for different folks. But the way he goes about his

690
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: business on the golf course is incredible to watch, and

691
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: the way he goes about his business off the golf course.

692
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: He is great with kids, is great with golf fans.

693
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: He is not faking that. He's been a big turnaround

694
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: as far as what people think of Bryson, and I

695
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: think that has everything to do with his maturity. He's

696
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: getting older, and I just think he's he's enjoying it. Man.

697
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: He has a lot of fun with the game, with

698
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: the competition, and I also think he has a lot

699
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: of fun with himself. So, you know, good for him

700
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: for turning things around in that regard. But as far

701
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 2: as his game goes, every time I see him chip

702
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: and pitch, I just like wow. I mean, it's just wow.

703
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: If his iron play ever gets up to snuff compared

704
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: to what his short game is now, then it's gonna

705
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: be a lot of Bryson on leaderboards every single time

706
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: we see him.

707
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: If you look at the last six majors he's played

708
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: until last year, six at the Masters, second at the PGA,

709
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: wins the US Open, Okay gets cut at the Open Championship,

710
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: fifth at the Masters this year, tied for second. I

711
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: get to see him week in and week out on

712
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: lub Tanzi. He hits balls until dark after every single round,

713
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: whether he shot sixty two or whether he's shot seventy two.

714
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: He's the last person on the range every single day,

715
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: every single day. And I just don't think he gets

716
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: enough credit for his work ethic what I just read

717
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: about his majors in the last year and a half,

718
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: do you expect him to be one of those guys

719
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: now that is just going to be on a major

720
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 1: championship leader board for the next three to five years.

721
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And by the way, to our point earlier, he

722
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: knows he needs to win something other than two US Opens.

723
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: He needs to get a different leg of the career

724
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 2: Grand Slam, not all four of them. He would love that, obviously,

725
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: but he doesn't want to be one of those guys.

726
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: Who ah, I'm a two time US Open winner and

727
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: didn't win any of the other ones. And he is

728
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: so consistent at these majors as numbers you're reeled off

729
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: are incredible, and you know, look, you've said this to

730
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: me for years when we're out having a drink. You

731
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: just have to give yourself an opportunity, you know, You've

732
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: got to give yourself an opportunity. To the point earlier,

733
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Scotty gave himself, gave himself that opportunity on Thursday by

734
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: digging it out of the dirt per se to shoot

735
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: that sixty nine. Bryson does it all the time. And

736
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: the more you put yourself in those you know, leaderboards

737
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: late on Sunday, the better chance you have of clipping

738
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: one of these things off. I don't think Bryson de

739
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Shamba is going anyway where anytime soon. At these major championships,

740
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: he really brings him. Remember when Brooks said years ago,

741
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: I think it's easier to win majors than it is

742
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: to win regular events because there's just a certain number

743
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: of players who just don't think they have the belief

744
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: to get it done. Bryson knows he can get it done.

745
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: He's crossed the finish line twice and I don't think

746
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna stop it too.

747
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: You talked about John Rahm. I think it was great

748
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: to see John Rahm get back into it. He did

749
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: everything you needed to do to get to the back

750
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: nine that you have to do to stay in contention

751
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: in a major. He was making the long cutts, but

752
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: the no birdies at Quail Hollow. I mean, Hunter may

753
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: haven't made a comment last week about you know, Quail

754
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: Hollow's like a Kardashian It looks great, but there's no

755
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: substance and stuff. But if you think about a major

756
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: championship venue, I think we had one last week at

757
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: Quail Hollow in Charlotte, where you knew that there were

758
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: four legit birdie chances for the entire round, right, you

759
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: had to take care of the three par fives, right,

760
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: so he had to take care of seven, had to

761
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: take care of ten, had to take care of fifteen,

762
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: and then fourteen's drivable. They put it that way. But

763
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: other than that, you're just trying to hang on. So

764
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: in that respect, John Rahm has that type of game,

765
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: but he just didn't get it done on the holes

766
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: that he needed to and then after that you got

767
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: to just try and fire at every flag. And he

768
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: lived in But because John Rahm went to live and

769
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people. You know, my dad

770
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: was doing TV for Sky at the Masters and somebody

771
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: sent me a clip. My Dad's going, yeah, I mean,

772
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Don Rom's been playing terrible lately. I had dinner with

773
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: him that I said, Dad isn't finished outside the top

774
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: ten like two and a half years, right. So the

775
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: game that John Rahm has, I still think if there's

776
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: a real world golf rankings, how he's not in the

777
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: top ten. John Rahm is one of the top ten,

778
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: top five best players in the world in my opinion,

779
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: and I think the eye test shows that. Good to

780
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: see him back in the mix in a major I

781
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: think he needed that. I think the game needs that.

782
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. It was great to see him back,

783
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: great to see him playing well. I will say, I

784
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: don't know how long it takes for me to think

785
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: that something is a trend as opposed to an anomaly.

786
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: But last year when we were in Paris, he had

787
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: a three shot lead I think it was a three

788
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: shot lead on the back nine and completely collapsed. He

789
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: didn't really play a factor or a role in the Masters.

790
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: It was the Bryson and Rory show. And then the

791
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: next major championship he's tied for the lead, playing great

792
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: and then basically collapsed on Monday at Quile Hollow. I

793
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 2: think about worried about it, but it is interesting in

794
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: his last two big spots he has not been able

795
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 2: to close when he basically had it in his hands

796
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: if he continued to play well. But John is a

797
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: freakiusly great player, incredibly competitive, works his butt off. I

798
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: think he's one of those guys like Bryson who's going

799
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: to be around for a long time in major championships. Look,

800
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: he went over to Live and everybody thought that's going

801
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: to be the end of John Well. They thought that

802
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: about Brooks and he wanted o kill. They thought that

803
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: about Bryce and he wanted Pineers. John rom is going

804
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: to be perfectly fine. I don't care what the official

805
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 2: World Golf ranking says. Doesn't matter to me. If John

806
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: Rahm is not one of your five or eight top

807
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: players in the world, then you don't understand golf.

808
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen. I sent a message as soon

809
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: as he started making double bogies and stuff. I sent

810
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: a message to a friend of mine. I said, wait

811
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: for all the comments about they only play fifty four

812
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: holes and they can't close, and your boy, the ultimate

813
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: lib hater, randall on Que last night going on and

814
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: on about this matres are hard to win. And if

815
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: you look at six of the top ten players in

816
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: the official World Golf rankings last week missed the Cup, JT. Ludwig,

817
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: Jackie Russell, Henley Sepstrak and who just won, and Shane,

818
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: they don't make the cut. And are we still I mean,

819
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: I can go on my phone right now and it

820
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: takes two seconds for me to find video and pictures

821
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: from Mars right and we're still trying to talk about

822
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: the fact that live in the PJA. I mean, I

823
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: think the game and I did a podcast about this

824
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: last week. Say, I think you can make an argument

825
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: that for all everyone wants to talk about the doom

826
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: and gloom, and I keep seeing amazing performances on the

827
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: course from the best players in the world, and good

828
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: players play bad, right, it happens like you're not gonna

829
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: play good every week. You're not gonna have your best stuff.

830
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen some of the best players

831
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: in the world, some of the big young superstars, and

832
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: a kid like Ludvig Goberg, I mean, you know, come

833
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: close to missing the cut. Does that mean that his

834
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: game is bad? Does that mean that he's not a

835
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: great player? Does that mean he doesn't have a great

836
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: future because he misses the cut in a major? If

837
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: you want to go down that route, you could say, okay, well,

838
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: these guys obviously aren't any good because they don't even

839
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: make the cuts. If you're going to beat somebody up

840
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: because he doesn't get it done on Sunday when he

841
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: has a chance to win, when he takes the lead,

842
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: I just can't we just get pass all of this

843
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: stuff at this point?

844
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: No, No, it won't happen because there are haters out there. Claude.

845
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: It's a look, I don't care what tour you're on.

846
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: If you're a great player, you're a great player. And

847
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: sometimes great players in this sport in particular, just have

848
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: bad days. And if you have one bad day, and

849
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: that's Thursday or Friday. Then the chances are you're not

850
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 2: going to make the cut and be able to play

851
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: on Saturday and Sunday. I mean, what do you want?

852
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: You can't have it both ways. You know. I got

853
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 2: a text yesterday. I can't believe Rora didn't shoot a

854
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 2: Sunday sixty three or sixty four to tie for seventh

855
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: and have just this random top ten. I'm like, what

856
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: do you odut of your mind? I go, you know,

857
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: sometimes people just don't have it. It's okay, it's a

858
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: hard golf I mean, it's just a hard course. It's

859
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: a hard game. I mean, my gosh, And you know,

860
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: I just think you know a lot of people, you know,

861
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: try to find the negatives. I'd tell my kids all

862
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: the time, you know, stay positive. It cost the same. Yeah.

863
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: Lastly, going back to Scotty, you talked about he doesn't

864
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: really and we talked about it. He doesn't really have

865
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: any weaknesses. And I think the thing that makes me

866
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: think his Major championship ceiling is so high is I

867
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: don't think there's a golf course, let alone the ones

868
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: they play in the majors. I mean, if you wanted

869
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: Augusta twice, you got to feel, you know, Phil felt

870
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: that way, You got to feel like you could win

871
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: another one of those right now that he's want to PGA.

872
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: If you look at the venues that we're going to

873
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: for the last two majors in Congressional, I mean there

874
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: are big ballparks and then there's Oakama. To me, it's

875
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,439
Speaker 1: the hardest golf course on the planet. I've heard they've

876
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: lengthened it. It looks like the rough is knee height.

877
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: And then the Open Championship back to Port Rush. I

878
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: don't see conditions that Scotty Scheffler's game doesn't match. What

879
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: do you think about the upcoming two remaining majors the

880
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: year for Scotty to clip off some more?

881
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: I think I think both of those venues are great

882
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: for a guy like Scotty. I don't think there's a

883
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: place on the planet that isn't good for Scotty right now,

884
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: that little that little cut he has, that little faraway

885
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 2: finder he has, I mean, my god, are you kidding me?

886
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: And I also think there's golf courses are good for

887
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: Rory McRoy as well, if he straightens out the driver.

888
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't drive it well last week. Oh well,

889
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: he didn't drive it great the week before the Truest. Okay,

890
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: he'll be okay. I mean he's Rory McElroy and he's

891
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: an accomplished player. But for Scotty, I think that you know,

892
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: it's part play and it's part mindset, and I think that,

893
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: like you said, nothing bothers the guy. Conditions don't bother him,

894
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: you know, not being able to prepare the way he

895
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: wanted to, you know, with Monday rain at Kuail Hollow

896
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: didn't bother him, the front nine yesterday, the front nine

897
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday didn't bother him. Not playing great on Thursday,

898
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 2: but eking out that sixty nine. He doesn't get phased

899
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: by things. So if he hits it in the rough

900
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: at Oakmont, which you're going to do at some point,

901
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: he'll be okay. And I think Royal Port rush. I

902
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: think the Open Championship is the one that's the most

903
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: random because it's just it's a weather conditions type of

904
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: thing and you just never know. But I've been to

905
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: that golf course. You have too. We were there in

906
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen when Shane Lowry won. I mean, you can't

907
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 2: tell me that he's not going to be the favorite.

908
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 2: Going into Oakmont, and you can't tell me that he's

909
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: not going to be the favorite going into Royal Port

910
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: Rush as well. I think that both of those venues,

911
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: with his game and his mind, it's just a tough,

912
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: tough combination right now to be able to beat those

913
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: two things.

914
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: And I think last week was a great week for

915
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: European Writer Cup captain Luke Donald, with John Rahm playing

916
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: route again, Matt Fitzpatrick being on the leaderboard again, and

917
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: then for Keegan Bradley who is playing like he's trying

918
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 1: to make the team, Bryson and Scotty Scheffler. I mean,

919
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: looking forward to September, I think this last major is

920
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: going a long way to kind of go okay. Maybe

921
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: we are going to see some familiar faces because certainly

922
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: on the US side, you're probably going to have some

923
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: rookies Setstraka winning who played great in Rome. I think

924
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: it's great for Luke, I think Fitzi coming back and

925
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: playing good again in a major, and I think John

926
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: Rahm playing good is great. And I think the majors

927
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: are all going to be great this year, and I

928
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: think we're in for a good Ryder Cup. What are

929
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: you looking forward to for the rest of the summer

930
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: pre Rider Cup, and who do you think needs to

931
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: make a move and kind of put themselves kind of

932
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: on the radar or on the map. For both Luke

933
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: and Keegan, I.

934
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: Think that first of all, to see someone in the

935
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: second session on Friday afternoon with cutoff jeene shorts and

936
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: white sox halfway up his ankles and a white tank

937
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: top tucked in with no belt with nine beer cups

938
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: stacked over his chest, screaming and yelling at the Europeans

939
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: on Long Island at Bethpage is going to be sensational

940
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: if you want to have that vision in your head

941
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 2: of that guy who's going to be screaming and yelling.

942
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: I think Koepka, who went to that dinner with Keegan

943
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: and Bryson, is clearly on the radar. I think he

944
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: needs to play well to prove that he needs to

945
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: be a pick if he's outside of the number. As

946
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: far as the Europeans go, I think Fitzpatrick, like you said,

947
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: stepped up. I think Stepstrak is a fabulous player and

948
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: he's not afraid of the moment. Didn't play well last week.

949
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: I think it's stacking up to be you get a

950
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: lot of really good players playing well. And like we

951
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: said earlier, what Jack said, you bring your game to

952
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: the big events. You don't find your game at the

953
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: big events. And I think right now, with these majors

954
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: the way they're stacked up. When they moved the PGA

955
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: from August to May, I remember thinking, I love that.

956
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: I love having it just before football season. I always

957
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: thought it was cool. I understand why they did it

958
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: business wise, but with them stacked up month to month

959
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: to month to month, these guys are playing well. I

960
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 2: think we're gonna go to Oakmont. Rom US Open winner Bryson,

961
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: two time US Open winner Brooks. Koepka all right, two

962
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: time US Open winner, three time two time US Open winner.

963
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: McElroy's playing, you know, has gotten three wins, including the

964
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: players and a master's. Scottie Scheffler has now kicked it

965
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: into gear. Xander is starting to play better golf coming

966
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: off the injury. Justin Thomas got the win for the

967
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: first time in a while. He's someone who needed to

968
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: do something to prove to Keegan. You know, I think

969
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: that I think lud vig Oldberg is someone who is

970
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: going to be needed on the European side. Of things,

971
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: and when you know, when depth becomes an issue, I

972
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 2: think it becomes more of an issue on the European

973
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: side than it does on the American side. And right now,

974
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: if you were playing the Ryder Cup next week, without

975
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: these two majors coming up, without the FedEx Cup playoffs,

976
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: without the rest of the lib golf season, you played

977
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: the Ryder Cup this coming weekend, I think the Europeans probably,

978
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 2: I don't have they be favored, but may be real

979
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: close right now. And I think Keegan and Luke are

980
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: in very good shape. But as you know, it's a

981
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: long way to go. You know, he had a few

982
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: more months to go, But right now you have a

983
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: lot of players on both sides playing great golf. To me,

984
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: that's what I'm looking forward to the most. Can these

985
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: guys sustain it. Can Rory get back on track after

986
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: the Masters? Can Scottie sustain it? Can Xander take a

987
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 2: step forward after doing what he did last year? Can

988
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: Ludwig put himself in a different category and get one

989
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: of these next two major championships by the way, Can

990
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 2: Shane Lowry, you know, get going a little bit and

991
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: be just completely and utterly solidified. For Luke Donald. There's

992
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: a lot of great golfers out there playing good golf.

993
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: One of the superstars, one of the I mean, he

994
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 1: played unbelievable in Rome for the European side, Victor Hovelin.

995
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's playing that little bit.

996
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Signs of life that the science experiment might, you know,

997
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: be somewhat over. Any chance if Keegan plays good for

998
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: the rest of the summer and he picks himself.

999
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: No chance. I think if he's inside the number, he

1000
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: will gladly be one of the twelve, probably play Sunday

1001
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 2: singles only and that's it. But if he's in a

1002
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: pick situation, I just don't think he's the kind of

1003
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: guy who's going to say, yeah, I'm gonna pick myself

1004
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: over somebody else. I'm just gonna be the captain. But

1005
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: if he earns his way on, he's not going to

1006
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: give up that spot and take someone else. I think

1007
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: he'll just play in the Sunday singles and that's it.

1008
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: But I think Hegan understands his place, knows the history

1009
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: of it all. It'd be very cool to be a

1010
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: playing captain, but I think he'd want to earn it.

1011
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd want to pick himself. I don't think, well,

1012
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: a lot to play for for the rest of the summer.

1013
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: Who's great seeing you at the Master Sanzy and look

1014
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: for or to seeing you at Congressional in about three weeks.

1015
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ka, it's gonna be great.

1016
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: Great to talk to you Cloud.

1017
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 2: Be good, Bude.

1018
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: So that was Steve Sands and like I said, he's

1019
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: one of the most recognizable voices in the game and

1020
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: someone whose opinion I respect as well. And like I

1021
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 1: said last week on the pod, I think the games

1022
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: are a great place. I think Scotti Schiffer winning majors

1023
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: is great for the game. I think the run that

1024
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: he's on is fantastic, and I think we're in for

1025
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: a really, really good summer of golf. Son of a

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