Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley,
Speaker 1: joined today, not by Mike Mayor. He is off doing
Speaker 1: I think some kind of recovery from some minor whatever thing.
Speaker 1: He's fine, he's not here though. He always gives me
Speaker 1: a hard time when I'm not here, so I will
Speaker 1: return the favor in kind. I am joined as he's
Speaker 1: usually joined when I'm gone, by the one and only
Speaker 1: Kelly Kirby.
Speaker 2: Kelly, thanks for coming on today.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. It's nice to
Speaker 3: do this with you instead of him. But we kind
Speaker 3: of are the surgical triplets, aren't We like us and
Speaker 3: our procedures are just constantly.
Speaker 1: There's always something, Yes, you know, we're never able to
Speaker 1: avoid whatever. I actually it's not even I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, protect his private you know business. I don't
Speaker 1: actually even know what he's got going on. I just
Speaker 1: know he's out for some some minor things. So he'll
Speaker 1: be back next week. I will actually be gone next
Speaker 1: week for a family trip, so you will be filling
Speaker 1: in again. Back on the other side, you will unfortunately
Speaker 1: be stuck with Mayor again next week. But this week
Speaker 1: we get the rare Worm and Kelly show. Really really,
Speaker 1: we could call it the zoo. It's it's worm and
Speaker 1: penguin together. So we got we've got some animals going
Speaker 1: on here.
Speaker 2: We're by the way, Oh yeah, I mean, who would
Speaker 2: go to see a worm?
Speaker 1: I guess like they have like little worm farms at
Speaker 1: some of like the little bug exhibits, Like I think,
Speaker 1: like my nephew might enjoy that, you know, kids like bugs,
Speaker 1: but as a general zoo, you know, exhibit that, I
Speaker 1: don't think that would be that impressive. But yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking kind of, you know, doing what we
Speaker 1: usually do here. We're gonna be rounding the bases with
Speaker 1: some trending topics. We've got a fun little thing kind
Speaker 1: of at the end of round of the bases. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it will be kind of the bulk of
Speaker 1: the segment where Kelly will be going through some of
Speaker 1: her lessons learned so far. Two months into the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five Fantasy baseball season, Kelly obviously knows a lot
Speaker 1: more about fantasy baseball than I do, and I would
Speaker 1: say that more than Mayor does too, although that is
Speaker 1: not necessarily reflected in the standings in Dan Harris's league,
Speaker 1: which you are also in and I like to bring
Speaker 1: up because Mayor is in last place. There you, Kelly,
Speaker 1: are in second to last place, so I get to
Speaker 1: kind of hold over both of you guys for the
Speaker 1: time being in my first season in the league. But
Speaker 1: we'll be doing those lessons learned from Kelly. We'll be
Speaker 1: also talking, like I said, some trending topics, some news notes,
Speaker 1: and injuries, all that good stuff. And as always, this
Speaker 1: is part one of three parts of the cycle for
Speaker 1: the week, so it'd be sure to check out not
Speaker 1: only this episode if you're watching, this will be the
Speaker 1: first one to drop both on audio and video, but
Speaker 1: also the other couple of segments as well.
Speaker 2: Throughout the weekend. All right, Kelly, let's dive in.
Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of just start with this is
Speaker 1: from a couple of days ago, obviously, but Ronald Acunya
Speaker 1: coming back like on Fire, obviously a couple of huge
Speaker 1: home runs in that weekend series, his first time back,
Speaker 1: coming off of you know, yet another long you know
Speaker 1: time being out due to injury. We talked a lot
Speaker 1: Meyer and myself in the preseason about where were ranking
Speaker 1: Acuna this year, because once he's back, we're going to
Speaker 1: really want him in our rosters. He was a little
Speaker 1: slower coming back the last time he was coming back
Speaker 1: from Attorney ACL. Obviously it's still early, very small sample
Speaker 1: size in twenty twenty five, but certainly a great start,
Speaker 1: you know, to begin with, for him. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of dispose the question to you, like a
Speaker 1: initial thoughts and seeing him back in the field. Obviously
Speaker 1: it's fun as fantasy managers to see him back, but
Speaker 1: be now that he is back and looking like pretty
Speaker 1: much his old self, how many players are there in
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball that you would be ranking ahead of him
Speaker 1: rest of season?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean not many. I think right off the
Speaker 3: top of my head. I thought of Judge, unfortunately, because
Speaker 3: I'm usually a pretty big Aaron Judge, Denier Otani, Corbyn Carroll,
Speaker 3: maybe given how he's been doing lately, But that is
Speaker 3: pretty much the list I think at this point, because
Speaker 3: if he continues what he's doing that I don't know
Speaker 3: where you put anyone else above him. However, that being said,
Speaker 3: if we're going with what do I see as the
Speaker 3: injury risk the rest of season, I would put a
Speaker 3: couple more people ahead of him, I think, just to
Speaker 3: like I would I would still rather have Loon Soto
Speaker 3: than Akunya in terms of I think he'll be healthy
Speaker 3: and he's going to have a monster second half, but
Speaker 3: everything else a Kuney brings to the table, and he's
Speaker 3: maybe a little fresher than everybody else, like he's third
Speaker 3: fourth maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, we weren't going to do a segment on Sodo,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad you brought it up because there's been
Speaker 1: you know, headlines recently about like you know, like the
Speaker 1: Mets aren't worried about him and everything, and I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: I get that the average is really low. It's to
Speaker 1: twenty four, and the OBP is low for his standards
Speaker 1: of course at three fifty two right now ops under
Speaker 1: eight hundred. Like it has been maybe worse than you
Speaker 1: would have expected. At the same time, like I don't, like,
Speaker 1: you know, if we're putting together like we're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing our bi lows in a future segment, like it's
Speaker 1: like mon Soda is a by low, and I think
Speaker 1: like most people are pretty reasonably confident that he's going
Speaker 1: to be, you know, continuing to be a really valuable player,
Speaker 1: and also by the way, he's stolen seven bases in
Speaker 1: his career high as twelve, so he's already over halfway there.
Speaker 2: We're not even you know, through May yet.
Speaker 1: So I think Sodo is a good one to bring
Speaker 1: up because I I mean, I tend to agree with you, like,
Speaker 1: given just the kind of the looming sort of damicles
Speaker 1: of Acuna's injury history looming over his head, like I
Speaker 1: would rather have some of these other guys ahead of him,
Speaker 1: just for no other reason than that. But it sounds
Speaker 1: like what you say, fourth you were it was Judge
Speaker 1: Otani maybe Carol and that was about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's just kind of where I start.
Speaker 3: I mean, Bobby Witt is still there, but I'm not
Speaker 3: you know, the Royals lineup is around him isn't doing
Speaker 3: so hot, So I'm not necessarily in on his counting stats.
Speaker 3: But yeah, with Soto, I looked at him as a
Speaker 3: bilo because this is probably as low of a bye
Speaker 3: as you can get on him, right if if everything's
Speaker 3: relative like this is the only time I can remember
Speaker 3: that you can buy losa on Soto. But his expected stats,
Speaker 3: like his expected by average I think is around like
Speaker 3: two to eighty five or something. His slug everything should
Speaker 3: come back to normal. It's just waiting that out. And
Speaker 3: if you can find a manager who doesn't want to
Speaker 3: wait that out, jump on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give it a try.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with a Kunya, what would you say he had
Speaker 1: to put a percentage chance to it? Is the percentage
Speaker 1: chance that in February of twenty twenty six next year,
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: The number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: And I'll say, I'm not going to say that overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: like consensus number one pick, because obviously Tany's amazing and
Speaker 1: Judge is having this awesome season, but that he is,
Speaker 1: I'll say the consensus number one. Like in ECR, he
Speaker 1: is the number one guy. What percentage chance would you
Speaker 1: give Acunya being back there a year from now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's really hard. I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like we should always just drop Otani from the whole
Speaker 3: conversation because I feel like I just feel like he'll
Speaker 3: be the number one like ECR, So I would give
Speaker 3: a Kunia like almost zero percent chance to be the
Speaker 3: ECR number one. But if we drop him out just
Speaker 3: for you know, posterity's sake, then yeah, I mean I
Speaker 3: think I would give it, I don't know, sixty seventy percent.
Speaker 3: I mean pretty high. Like I'm not sure. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure who would take over, like the judge, wit Combo,
Speaker 3: maybe Carol, depend on how he finishes. Who else are
Speaker 3: you gonna like Kyle Tucker? But like he's in his
Speaker 3: contract year, so I mean, I'm not expecting he's not
Speaker 3: go I'm not expecting his big of things next year
Speaker 3: from him. So yeah, I mean I think it's pretty
Speaker 3: high if he stays healthy.
Speaker 1: Last question on Acunya, given some of the injury stuff
Speaker 1: that you alluded to, and you know the fact that
Speaker 1: whoever has him is probably like they probably don't want
Speaker 1: to trade him obviously because they held laund him. You know,
Speaker 1: they got him at this discount and draft day, and
Speaker 1: now is the time you get to kind of reap
Speaker 1: those benefits if somebody is looking to maybe sell high
Speaker 1: and say, hey he's back, but you never know, you know,
Speaker 1: look at this great start.
Speaker 2: You know, this is the Akunya of old.
Speaker 1: Would you be willing to trade him for something like
Speaker 1: a guy that was going later in the first round
Speaker 1: in drafts or maybe a second rounder as part of
Speaker 1: a package, so something like Churio plus another player or
Speaker 1: Gunnar Henderson who's gotten off to really slow start plus
Speaker 1: another player somebody like that, would you be willing to
Speaker 1: move Acunya or would it have to be kind of
Speaker 1: one of these elly, like have him playing like a
Speaker 1: stud type of studs would be the only way you
Speaker 1: would move him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think it is the best time
Speaker 3: to sell high because he's healthy. I mean this is
Speaker 3: these are the rules and if you wanted to the
Speaker 3: first thought that I had is if I could get
Speaker 3: if I could get like a Scoobaal Jackson Merrill combo,
Speaker 3: like I like these are That's where I would start.
Speaker 3: But like, if I could pull a number one starter
Speaker 3: out right now, given how pitching looks injury wise, maybe
Speaker 3: it's not everyone's pitching. It might just be my pitching
Speaker 3: across eight leagues, but I need help, So yeah, I
Speaker 3: would Actually I'd be okay with that, I think, depending
Speaker 3: on how you need to fill out your team.
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Speaker 2: One guy who might.
Speaker 1: Get to this level one day is our next topic here,
Speaker 1: Roman Anthony, and he's not called up yet, has ever
Speaker 1: recorded this Thursday afternoon, but it just feels like he
Speaker 1: has to be close to call. Jeff Passon actually had
Speaker 1: an article about both him and Jack Caglione in the
Speaker 1: Kansas City's Organization. He had the article on ESPN today
Speaker 1: just kind of about like why aren't these guys up yet,
Speaker 1: Like there's some speculation of like Super two related stuff.
Speaker 1: There's you know, the fact that, like I mean the
Speaker 1: Red Sox. One of the examples that Jeff uses in
Speaker 1: his article is that Christian Campbell has been struggling, so
Speaker 1: you never know that, you know, how a top prospect
Speaker 1: is going to come up and make that instant impact.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it just feels so obvious
Speaker 1: that Anthony has like nothing else.
Speaker 2: To learn at the minor league level.
Speaker 1: You know, he is the number one prospect in baseball,
Speaker 1: and I just I just feel like the kind of
Speaker 1: ground swell of conversation about him is coming to a
Speaker 1: tipping point, and I'm assuming he's going to be up soon.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to kind of just hit on.
Speaker 1: I wanted people to be prepared in case it does happen,
Speaker 1: let's say, in the next week, before our next episode.
Speaker 1: I want people to be prepared with what are we
Speaker 1: doing now? He's likely rostered in a lot of leagues,
Speaker 1: just because the top prospect in baseball is going to
Speaker 1: be rostered in a lot of leagues. But is he
Speaker 1: somebody that you have such high expectations for right off
Speaker 1: the bat that you would be interested in trying to
Speaker 1: trade for now if you didn't roster him, or in
Speaker 1: the off chance he is available, Like obviously I think
Speaker 1: you should pick him up, But you know, would you
Speaker 1: be trying to trade for him now? Would you be
Speaker 1: trying to sell before he comes up and possibly disappoints
Speaker 1: What are your general expectations for Anthony when he does
Speaker 1: get the call.
Speaker 3: Well. I think one of the things that the Red
Speaker 3: Sox are doing is, you know, they tried to change
Speaker 3: all the rules for like the playing time manipulation situation,
Speaker 3: which once you get into this time of year with
Speaker 3: a guy like Anthony, that's your most that's Ockham's razor, right,
Speaker 3: Like that's the most logical explanation. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I have pretty high expectations for him. I think he
Speaker 3: will jump kind of in and start off hot. I
Speaker 3: also think there's no clear rookie of the year in
Speaker 3: the American League, and I feel like that is a
Speaker 3: that's another concern for Boston that if if they bring
Speaker 3: him up and he wins, that I think that they
Speaker 3: lose a year on him, I believe, or something along
Speaker 3: those lines. So he I feel like that's the issue
Speaker 3: a little bit, is they're just kind of looking for,
Speaker 3: you know, how to best do this. But you know,
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna hit. But I also, unfortunately subscribe
Speaker 3: to the Joe piece of Pia rule, which is when
Speaker 3: they come up, that is the highest time to sell.
Speaker 3: Like once he gets to call, if there is something
Speaker 3: that you need and it's not a dynasty league, that's
Speaker 3: that's the time to go. And if there's somebody, you know,
Speaker 3: if you play play in a league with a bunch
Speaker 3: of East Coast bias, people like you know, target them
Speaker 3: because they're gonna be way probably way more excited than
Speaker 3: you are. So yeah, I if I have him, I'm
Speaker 3: holding when he gets called up. If there's someone that's
Speaker 3: interested and I there's a piece that I need, I
Speaker 3: I basically never have trouble flipping rookies in in redraft.
Speaker 1: Especially recently. And again this is something that I talked
Speaker 1: about a lot with Mayor Is. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: such a common thing to see play out now that
Speaker 1: these top prospects are taking longer than ever to adjust
Speaker 1: to the big leagues. Because there are exceptions, but by
Speaker 1: and large, it feels like the elite, elite guys are
Speaker 1: not hitting the ground running the way we maybe got
Speaker 1: used to.
Speaker 2: You know, ten years ago.
Speaker 1: The gap and pitching between the minor leagues, the upper
Speaker 1: minor leagues even and major league baseball is as wide
Speaker 1: as it's ever been. And in that article I reference
Speaker 1: Passon talks about Jackson Holliday as an example of just
Speaker 1: a year ago was the number one over prospect in
Speaker 1: baseball in Ale East organization comes up and wasn't just
Speaker 1: like not living up to the light, but was like
Speaker 1: so bad he had to get sent down in like
Speaker 1: two weeks, Like was that bad at first? My usual
Speaker 1: takeaway from that is, Okay, well let's get the adjustment
Speaker 1: out of the way sooner rather than later and just
Speaker 1: you know, get through it. But it does mean for
Speaker 1: fantasy managers like that has to be as good of
Speaker 1: a prospect as Roman Anthony is. That has to be
Speaker 1: in the back of your mind as a possible outcome
Speaker 1: here when you.
Speaker 2: Are looking at when you're looking at.
Speaker 1: Top prospects who are soon to be called up, you
Speaker 1: could throw Kagalion in.
Speaker 2: This conversation if you want to. Also, do you think about.
Speaker 1: All the prospects who have struggled or do you do
Speaker 1: you try and look at each individual guy as this
Speaker 1: feels like the type of profile that maybe won't struggle
Speaker 1: as much because because I think that can be tricky,
Speaker 1: because I probably would have said that with Holiday, for example,
Speaker 1: as this is the type of guy who maybe the
Speaker 1: ceiling isn't going to be crazy high right after the bat,
Speaker 1: but I thought he was a floor type of guy
Speaker 1: that wouldn't have that in I thought he was going
Speaker 1: to adjust really well because that's what he'd done his
Speaker 1: entire life. He had you know, Dad is an all
Speaker 1: star hitter. Like it seems like such an obvious this
Speaker 1: guy's going to be a good baseball player right after that,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't. So do you just look at kind
Speaker 1: of the general hole and say this guy probably isn't
Speaker 1: going to be the exception or do you say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: based on you know, Kagalian's elite power or Anthony's overall profile,
Speaker 1: you know, these guys seem like exceptions to the rule.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean that's a really interesting question because I
Speaker 3: don't know how you discern it. Right, Like a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago, there was a giant like every rookie
Speaker 3: that came in like lit the world on fire, and
Speaker 3: it was so much fun for everyone because like, now
Speaker 3: you had this young stud doing what he what you
Speaker 3: expected him to. But that's just not the norm. So
Speaker 3: in terms of like looking at it, I guess I
Speaker 3: have the way I kind of I think assess it
Speaker 3: is what team are they playing on? How long of
Speaker 3: a leash are they going to be given? Because they
Speaker 3: can sometimes hit their way out of it, right, but
Speaker 3: they have to be play, they have to get play
Speaker 3: every day or almost every day. They have to be
Speaker 3: allowed to kind of work through, do the batting practice,
Speaker 3: talk to the veterans, like and I think some organizations
Speaker 3: are just less likely to let that, like let that
Speaker 3: happen Holliday last year. I mean, he was so atrocious
Speaker 3: that there was just no way that. I mean, at
Speaker 3: that point you start to talk about, you know, killing
Speaker 3: his confiden and considering that I thought he was like
Speaker 3: twelve years old when he got there, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: you don't want to kill a twelve year old. It's confidence,
Speaker 3: So send him back down for a minute. But yeah, Anthony,
Speaker 3: I think is just in the unique position because I
Speaker 3: feel like the Red Sox will give him that leash,
Speaker 3: Like I think that they will let him hit his
Speaker 3: way out of it. But as the season goes on
Speaker 3: and depending, I mean, the al YaST is super competitive.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know if they'll leave if he
Speaker 3: does come up and struggle for a while, Like, will
Speaker 3: they leave that empty spot in the roster is you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like they're less likely, Whereas I think if
Speaker 3: Keaglione gets up, the Royals will let him fly for
Speaker 3: pretty much the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: I think that's your spot on.
Speaker 1: I think Kaglion will, like when he's up, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be getting every day at bats, Like I just don't
Speaker 1: see any anyway around it. Whereas Anthony yet, like it's
Speaker 1: weird because like on the one hand, the Red Sox
Speaker 1: are in fourth place, they're below five hundred. But on
Speaker 1: the other hand, like you said, like it is a
Speaker 1: really competitive, you know division for the most part, and
Speaker 1: you know, the Oriols aren't as good as expected, and
Speaker 1: the Blue Jays are also below five hundred. The Rais
Speaker 1: are only a game above five hundred. Like there's room
Speaker 1: to make moves in the division. I wonder if I'm
Speaker 1: on Boston's side, it will be more if they would
Speaker 1: be more inclined, like if Campbell was hitting really well,
Speaker 1: for example, and like you know, if Bregman was healthy,
Speaker 1: Like you know, they probably don't want Anthony in a
Speaker 1: position where he needs to be a star right away,
Speaker 1: where he kind of would need to be right now
Speaker 1: given the shape of that lineup. And I really wish
Speaker 1: Mayor was on this episode if we're talking poorly about
Speaker 1: Red Sox as an organization, but sadly he's not here,
Speaker 1: Let's go to Let's go to our next topic here.
Speaker 1: This is kind of where we usually do our news
Speaker 1: notes and injuries. I didn't have a ton that I
Speaker 1: wrote down, just a handful of him. If you have
Speaker 1: any others that you saw, please feel free to join
Speaker 1: in with those as well.
Speaker 2: Renel Blanco out for the year with.
Speaker 1: Tommy John obviously that's going to linger into next season
Speaker 1: as well. You know somebody who's had some good stretches
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, but not going to be
Speaker 1: available anytime soon. Boba Schett day to day lower back Titans.
Speaker 1: He actually hit a home run yesterday, so clearly doing
Speaker 1: you know better in that regard.
Speaker 2: I wrote this down before the homer, but so I
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on.
Speaker 1: I actually considered Bischett for by Low when we do
Speaker 1: that segment later on. I didn't end up picking him,
Speaker 1: but actually partially because of the injury stuff.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to pick a guy who was hurt.
Speaker 1: But I've been a Bichette fan for a lot of
Speaker 1: this year at his costs, so it's gonna keep an
Speaker 1: eye on.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of him.
Speaker 1: Stephen Kwan left the game yesterday for the Guardians with
Speaker 1: right right wrist inflammation.
Speaker 2: That's hard to say, right wrist.
Speaker 1: And then lastly, Colton Kowser and Jordan Westburg both have
Speaker 1: started rehab stance this week for the Orioles. I believe
Speaker 1: Kowser started yesterday and Westburg starts today if I have
Speaker 1: that right, So they are both close to returning to
Speaker 1: a lineup that boy, could they sure use an infusion
Speaker 1: of some real hitting talent right now. So obviously, again
Speaker 1: there's not much san Blanco out for the year. You know,
Speaker 1: Bishett seemingly getting better. Kwan, I don't think there's been
Speaker 1: a ton of updates there. But Kowser and Westburg I
Speaker 1: think is a really interesting one here, just as these
Speaker 1: are two like definitely viable fantasy starting options for your lineup,
Speaker 1: you know, Westburg especially who you've been without for a
Speaker 1: lot of the year, and especially with Westburg at a
Speaker 1: position like third base give the nature of that position,
Speaker 1: I think could be a real boost to some teams.
Speaker 3: As a person who drafted Jordan Westburg everywhere, I would
Speaker 3: like it to be a boost us to our teams.
Speaker 3: And I drafted him for that exactly for that eligibility
Speaker 3: and the power that he showed. I mean I thought, well,
Speaker 3: if I can get that at second base or third base, like,
Speaker 3: let me like he has second base eligibility in some
Speaker 3: of my leagues, Like that is perfect, let's do it.
Speaker 3: Like he was the guy. I feel like every year
Speaker 3: in fantasy there's one guy that near the end of
Speaker 3: the season, I'm like, why didn't I go after this guy? Ever,
Speaker 3: like and Westburg last year was that guy, and so
Speaker 3: you know, then you fall in love a little bit
Speaker 3: with a player and then you draft him everywhere, and
Speaker 3: then he's injured for the first two months of the year.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think and Cowsers equally as interesting.
Speaker 3: I mean they if they can come back and kind
Speaker 3: of resume what they were doing last year, not only
Speaker 3: is Baltimore gonna get better, but yeah, fantasy teams everyone
Speaker 3: because I assume almost everyone held onto the two of them,
Speaker 3: So yeah, they might be worth a by low before
Speaker 3: they get back. If you are looking for something, you know, again,
Speaker 3: a little bit of power and especially from a name
Speaker 3: fielder spot, so I might go after him.
Speaker 1: I think Kowser especially talking about the power. I mean
Speaker 1: last year he in five hundred at bats, twenty four
Speaker 1: arm runs, also nine stolen bases. I think there's a
Speaker 1: room for the batting average to get better too. It
Speaker 1: was two forty two last year. Like he had that
Speaker 1: reputation in college, which was a while ago at this one,
Speaker 1: but are that reputation of being a better contact heater
Speaker 1: than that? I think he is kind of the thumb
Speaker 1: in the middle of the lineup that the Orioles are missing,
Speaker 1: especially with Gunner like playing poorly and added playing poorly too.
Speaker 1: I just think like Kowser sliding into that four or
Speaker 1: five spot, I think that will help more than people
Speaker 1: are giving credence to. And Westburg is just like a
Speaker 1: very good all around player, Like I am very excited
Speaker 1: to have him back in the lineup as well as
Speaker 1: a fan, But I think I agree that like like Wes,
Speaker 1: Westbroog is the one that stands out to me as
Speaker 1: like I'm more excited about that return than Kowser, like,
Speaker 1: and part of that is just the positional stuff, but
Speaker 1: part of it is, like I think he's a better
Speaker 1: overall player. But I think Kowser's upside rest of season,
Speaker 1: if he just if he is back and fully healthy,
Speaker 1: is like actually pretty significant, and most people hung on
Speaker 1: to him but I would maybe be looking to trade
Speaker 1: for him if you could get him as like a
Speaker 1: you know, a part of a larger deal. If you
Speaker 1: can include him, I think there's real power upside for
Speaker 1: rest of season. Like it would not surprise me he's
Speaker 1: not going to reach thirty homers this year, but it
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if he kind of spends the next
Speaker 1: four months at a thirty homer pace coming back. That
Speaker 1: just the type of hittor he is. And then, and
Speaker 1: like you said, we both love Westbroog for sure. For me,
Speaker 1: it was the two guys this year that I got
Speaker 1: like pretty much everywhere because of some of the positional versatility.
Speaker 1: You know, one of them obviously more proven than the other,
Speaker 1: but I just really like both players a lot. It
Speaker 1: was Jordan Westburg and Matt Shaw, and then one of
Speaker 1: them gets hurt and the other one he gets sent
Speaker 1: down to the minors. So it was not the most
Speaker 1: fun in April for investing heavily in those two guys.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: I think Calser and Westburg are going to make a
Speaker 1: difference for fantasy rosters coming back. Do you have any
Speaker 1: thoughts on Baschet just because I didn't pick him in
Speaker 1: the later segment, so we're not gonna be really talking
Speaker 1: about him there. But like I said, he hits the
Speaker 1: home run, has this lower back tightness. He's somebody that again,
Speaker 1: I really was drafting a lot of this year because
Speaker 1: I thought it was just a really good price on
Speaker 1: him where he was going. You know, he's age twenty
Speaker 1: seven season now, Like he's been good in the past,
Speaker 1: even if he was coming off that disastrous and injury
Speaker 1: short into your last year. You know, kind of looking
Speaker 1: at just what he's done this year, like it's not
Speaker 1: like he's been sending the world on fire, but clearly
Speaker 1: better than last year at the very least.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you kind of make of him
Speaker 2: rest the season?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had high hopes for him as well, and
Speaker 3: I like that his batting average has bounced back to
Speaker 3: I mean he's batting to seventy seven. So last year
Speaker 3: that was actually the killer for me that you kind
Speaker 3: of drafted him with the idea that he was going
Speaker 3: to hit for average and give you a little bit
Speaker 3: of power, but you know, kind of hold down some
Speaker 3: of your counting stats and and this year he seems
Speaker 3: to have bounced back a little bit harder with that
Speaker 3: the bang average and he scored twenty three runs and
Speaker 3: and the five homers is you know, obviously we'd like
Speaker 3: it to be more. But he's also tried six stolen
Speaker 3: bases and made it four of them, so he's he's
Speaker 3: been doing a little bit more of the all around stuff.
Speaker 3: So I was I was in on him mostly because
Speaker 3: I was I was so in on Vladdie, hoping we'd
Speaker 3: go the whole year without him getting a contract, and
Speaker 3: instead he got that, and then I was like, can
Speaker 3: I undraft him everywhere? But but the two of them together,
Speaker 3: like I feel like if he can just stay healthy,
Speaker 3: and that's just been the big problem. And low back
Speaker 3: tightness is always that's one of those weird like I
Speaker 3: don't know, that's just one of the weird ones where
Speaker 3: you have no idea how long they're going to.
Speaker 2: Be out for everybody ever ever to have a bad back.
Speaker 3: Ever like no, like somebody says oblique, it's like, oh
Speaker 3: that's going forever, but like a low back, it's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know where we at.
Speaker 1: So all right, let's get into what I'm most looking
Speaker 1: forward to on this episode is Kelly Kirby's lessons learned
Speaker 1: so far in twenty twenty five. Now, I don't you
Speaker 1: have not shared these with me, so I get to
Speaker 1: kind of react to them live you. I don't even
Speaker 1: know how many you came up with. So this could
Speaker 1: be short, this could be long.
Speaker 2: We can take this as long as you want.
Speaker 1: I want you to dive into all your lessons learned
Speaker 1: so far this season two months in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so just brace yourself. I'm gonna go on for
Speaker 3: abun hour. But I'm I'm okay. So one of the
Speaker 3: things that I I got invited to participate in tell
Speaker 3: Wars this year, which it was kind of like imagine
Speaker 3: being invited to a party with like people everyone that
Speaker 3: you've ever wanted to like meet, except they're inviting you
Speaker 3: to compete against them, and and it's it was like
Speaker 3: the most intimidating thing that I've been a part of.
Speaker 3: I don't play a lot of fifteen team rotal leagues.
Speaker 3: I don't play a lot of fifteen team rotal leagues
Speaker 3: with you know, fantasy Baseball geniuses. And the whole time
Speaker 3: I was just like, I feel like I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit out of my element here, and then I went
Speaker 3: and proved it. So and a fifteen team rotal league.
Speaker 3: One of the things I learned is it is actually
Speaker 3: important to draft saves, so there's even though there's turnover
Speaker 3: on the wire, like you gotta lock down probably at
Speaker 3: least one that you know is going to get him,
Speaker 3: barring injury, of course. And instead, what I did was
Speaker 3: I drafted a whole lot of handcuffs, and those have
Speaker 3: gone very poorly, Like Griffin Jack's right off the top
Speaker 3: of my head, not because I thought Duran was going
Speaker 3: to get injured, but he just usually has such solid numbers,
Speaker 3: and I was trying very hard to protect my ratios
Speaker 3: in those leagues. But yeah, that didn't work out so
Speaker 3: well because I also really liked Sandy olo Contra and
Speaker 3: so those ratios are are shot. But we'll talk about
Speaker 3: him in just a second. So yeah, that's one of
Speaker 3: the biggest things that I took away from it, where
Speaker 3: it's just like I kept passing on relievers, and even
Speaker 3: in our league with with Dan, I kept passing on relievers,
Speaker 3: and so I'm stuck with Hoffman, who's you know, locking
Speaker 3: down saves, but he has a six something ere and
Speaker 3: he's just been, you know, a mess. So that's I
Speaker 3: hate drafting saves, but it's important in road leagues. The
Speaker 3: second thing I learned, Okay, you.
Speaker 1: Feel that way quickly, I want to ask, do you
Speaker 1: feel that way like it's pronounced in a league like
Speaker 1: towt Wars, But do you feel that way kind of
Speaker 1: going into next season in terms of like a twelve
Speaker 1: team league or like in rodo, like you just want
Speaker 1: to lock somebody down because for me, like it's it's
Speaker 1: something that I want to be good at, but it's
Speaker 1: often hard to predict year to year we're gonna be
Speaker 1: good outside of the truly elites yet, but even with
Speaker 1: the truly elites, like I have Devin Williams everywhere this year,
Speaker 1: I thought I was locking in at the top. I
Speaker 1: thought I was locking in the number one gy honestly, Like,
Speaker 1: I could not have been more high on Devin Williams
Speaker 1: this season, and clearly that could not have It could
Speaker 1: not possibly have gone worse. So would you apply that
Speaker 1: same lesson to a more normally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not as important, but again and in head
Speaker 3: to head, I will punt saves till the end of time,
Speaker 3: Like I don't care in the least about that, But
Speaker 3: like in ROTO, it's like, yeah, I still want at
Speaker 3: least someone that I know is going to start the
Speaker 3: year as the closer and presumably has that role kind
Speaker 3: of locked down. So even when a Devin Williams happens,
Speaker 3: like you know, it's like it we started there. Like
Speaker 3: on paper, statistically speaking, he should have been good, he
Speaker 3: should have been solid. He but I never I didn't
Speaker 3: draft him because I don't like guys who have who
Speaker 3: broke their backs. But uh, that scares me, just dismitch.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean like Duran out of the out
Speaker 3: of Minnesota, like I have him a couple of places,
Speaker 3: but not in Roe because it's like, well he's gonna
Speaker 3: lock it down, but and he has the job basically
Speaker 3: until someone takes it or unless he gets injured. That's
Speaker 3: the type that I want to lock in on roto.
Speaker 3: And so next year I would definitely aim to draft
Speaker 3: one or two. But for sure, one the key is
Speaker 3: to not feel like you're overpaying, and in auction leagues,
Speaker 3: I always feel like I'm overpaid for closers. So that's my.
Speaker 1: I ended up our work kind of insiders league that
Speaker 1: we're in with Fantasy Pros. It's a really kind of
Speaker 1: an odd league because of the nature of our company.
Speaker 1: We actually have it set to end in mid August,
Speaker 1: so we don't go the full season in this league.
Speaker 1: And that's something that you and myself and Mayor are
Speaker 1: all kind of pushing back against.
Speaker 2: But it's the way the league is set up, and
Speaker 2: we're not the commissioner, so we don't have control over it.
Speaker 1: And in that league, it's head to head categories, and
Speaker 1: I decided to see that. I did want to go
Speaker 1: heavy on reliever because it's a daily league too, so
Speaker 1: I figure it, Listen, if I can get three or
Speaker 1: four relievers I really like, and then I just rotate
Speaker 1: in starters every day, I'm going to be winning a
Speaker 1: lot of these pitching categories every week, and then as
Speaker 1: long as my hitting is just okay, I'll be winning
Speaker 1: most weeks. And I had Devin Williams was my big purchase,
Speaker 1: so you know, I definitely overpaid for him. You know,
Speaker 1: I was able to pick up like Kyle fin Again.
Speaker 1: It's also a really shallow league. It's a ten team
Speaker 1: because we have multiple like versions of the league and
Speaker 1: very short benches, so it's a very There are players
Speaker 1: on the waivers in that league that people would be
Speaker 1: shocked at, but it's just the way the league kind
Speaker 1: of is, so it's it's kind of a unique system.
Speaker 1: But that was one where I went most heavily on relievers,
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much that I did in any other
Speaker 1: league this year, and again because I picked Devin Williams
Speaker 1: as one of the guys that has burned me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the three of us
Speaker 3: have a chat that we like labeled we hate the
Speaker 3: Insiders Baseball set up, like because I feel like we
Speaker 3: talk about it a lot, and it will pick up
Speaker 3: now that we're getting into like what some people consider
Speaker 3: playoff season at our company, like we're.
Speaker 1: Basically in the equivalent of like August for most other teams.
Speaker 1: I mean, the playoffs will start in our league. The
Speaker 1: first day of the playoffs in this league is June thirtieth.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 3: It's like you can't even talk about it really because
Speaker 3: it's just nothing applies to anything else.
Speaker 1: I always laugh too, because the logic from the people
Speaker 1: who run the league, which listen, being a commissioner's a
Speaker 1: thankless job. I get it, but like I always laugh
Speaker 1: because they're like, well, you know, people get really busy
Speaker 1: in August it's like our busiest month of the year
Speaker 1: by a mile at the company, which I understand. But
Speaker 1: also I'm like, okay, so like six people might still
Speaker 1: be alive even if we like didn't go all the
Speaker 1: way till September, but say we finished a couple weeks early, Like,
Speaker 1: not even not all thirty people in this league are
Speaker 1: going to be alive anymore.
Speaker 2: It's going to be like a half dozen.
Speaker 1: I think they can handle picking some daily lineups here
Speaker 1: and not you know, have it impact with too much.
Speaker 2: But I digress. What's your next lesson learns?
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm a guest on the show. That's not
Speaker 3: get me fired. But so then other thing I learned
Speaker 3: was I went into a couple drafts where I was like,
Speaker 3: I really want batting average because I feel like batting
Speaker 3: average can co you know, it can transfer to good
Speaker 3: counting stats, it can transfer to other things. And in
Speaker 3: the league that I did it the most, specifically, my
Speaker 3: team is now collectively hitting two forty nine, but they
Speaker 3: batted two oh two during April, and I was like, well,
Speaker 3: that didn't work. So I think I'm going to go
Speaker 3: back to not necessarily ignoring batting average. But like, like
Speaker 3: you know, it'll it should correct over the year, but
Speaker 3: that it was killer. It was just awful. And I
Speaker 3: have Soto in that league, so the whole time I
Speaker 3: was just like, help me.
Speaker 2: But well, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like pitching in general, or I always
Speaker 1: equate pitching to running backs and fantasy football. It's like
Speaker 1: those in the sense that batting average is something that
Speaker 1: I really want to be good at, but I find
Speaker 1: it very difficult to be good at a lot of
Speaker 1: the time. So I actually in the league I'm in
Speaker 1: where I'm doing best this year, I'm like, it's I'm
Speaker 1: running away with this. I mean it's early, but I'm
Speaker 1: dominating in this roto league. And it's a like you
Speaker 1: keep five and I had just five great keepers, which
Speaker 1: went a long way. But in that league, I'm like
Speaker 1: twenty points higher than anybody else in batting average, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a real key to the reason why
Speaker 1: I'm running away with everything. To your point, like it
Speaker 1: can be a signal of how you're doing in some
Speaker 1: of the other categories as well, But it's a difficult
Speaker 1: one to get right.
Speaker 3: Yep, for sure, And so I mean it might be
Speaker 3: worth trying but I didn't do well on that whatsoever.
Speaker 3: So so yeah, my third lesson is do not trust
Speaker 3: Mike Trout and by extension, do not trust Mike Mayor.
Speaker 3: He was so in on Trout every every draft we
Speaker 3: talked about, every draft I was in with him, it
Speaker 3: was you know, nope, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: do it. And it's amazing that he basically just replicated
Speaker 3: last year where his April was. I mean, his April
Speaker 3: wasn't great in terms of like his average was terrible,
Speaker 3: but he produced right and then the same thing last year.
Speaker 3: He had like what ten home runs in April or something,
Speaker 3: and then he's gone. And it's always that just vague,
Speaker 3: like he is the ultimate you do not know what
Speaker 3: they're talking about. With his injury, like they could literally
Speaker 3: be like he stubbed his toe, he's out for two months,
Speaker 3: and then sometimes it's like he broke his wrist, but
Speaker 3: he'll back and be back in two weeks. Like they
Speaker 3: it's like they just don't, you don't know how to
Speaker 3: do it. So I also just wanted to work in
Speaker 3: a chance to tell everyone not to trust me, like Mayor.
Speaker 2: Well, that's been a big Mayor thing.
Speaker 1: Too in reacting to this injury is like they're like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not that big of a deal, and yet there's
Speaker 1: no timeline for his Like we're not concerned, but there's
Speaker 1: no timeline. He's like, what does this even mean? Like
Speaker 1: those those two things do not square with one another.
Speaker 1: He's currently one hundred and twenty fourth in our rest
Speaker 1: of season consensus rankings, which by the way, is definitely
Speaker 1: too high. I know he faced live pitching yesterday and
Speaker 1: ran the bases a bit, but like even when he
Speaker 1: comes back, like, what are you gonna do? Be you know,
Speaker 1: confident in him staying on the field.
Speaker 2: Of course not.
Speaker 1: So there's a reason I have him nowhere, and that's
Speaker 1: a that's an l for for mayor for sure this year.
Speaker 3: And so then I you know, because I like to
Speaker 3: make fun, but I'll also just you know, come back
Speaker 3: with my more of my l's. Apparently I do want
Speaker 3: to take a preseason lamp. My love of Hunter Brown.
Speaker 3: My I don't think I ever stopped talking about him.
Speaker 3: I think every article where it was like who are
Speaker 3: you going after? Who are your must haves? Would picture
Speaker 3: like I was like a Hunter Brown, Hunter Roun Hunter Brown.
Speaker 3: So he's doing exactly what I thought he was gonna do.
Speaker 3: I you know, he had a little bit of a
Speaker 3: blow upstart I think the other day, but but he
Speaker 3: doesn't concern me. I adore him. So I want everyone
Speaker 3: to remember that, and then I want everyone to forget
Speaker 3: everything I said about Sandy al Contra, just entirely all
Speaker 3: across the board. I cannot believe how bad he looks,
Speaker 3: and like, just none of his pitches are doing anything.
Speaker 3: No one's no, there's no swinging, there's no like he's
Speaker 3: just he's not. He's not fooling anybody with what is happening.
Speaker 3: Then I don't know how he improves it. So he's
Speaker 3: a drop for me literally everywhere that I can except
Speaker 3: for that fifteen team Tellwars league where there's really nothing.
Speaker 3: So I'm just like, I guess I'll just keep running
Speaker 3: him out there. But yeah, so those are my those
Speaker 3: are my two. That's my win and my loss. I
Speaker 3: think from the pitching side.
Speaker 1: We did we did an episode a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago with Mayor and myself did like kind of takeing
Speaker 1: the l's on some guys early on, and for.
Speaker 2: Me, like Devin Williams was a big one. I did.
Speaker 1: I had a bold prediction before the year, and if
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be bold, right, it wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: be an obvious thing. Like you know, there's risk that
Speaker 1: bold predictions don't play out, that's the nature of them.
Speaker 1: But one of my bold predictions was that he Devin Williams,
Speaker 1: would earn multiple cy Young votes this year down ballot,
Speaker 1: but he would be you know, get votes that will.
Speaker 2: Not be happening, certainly.
Speaker 1: And then the other l I took was Adley Rushman,
Speaker 1: where I just kind of like you where it's like
Speaker 1: like you were just describing with al Contra, Like I
Speaker 1: just can't believe how bad he looks like it like
Speaker 1: doesn't And I know some of the expected stats for
Speaker 1: Adli are better than the counting stats, but like, I
Speaker 1: mean even just yesterday, and I know he was coming
Speaker 1: back from getting hit in the face of the ball.
Speaker 1: Like I don't say this callously or like to make
Speaker 1: a joker, like he looked concussed.
Speaker 2: Like he looked like like if.
Speaker 1: A concussed player was trying to swing against major league pitching.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's his first three at bats, he had
Speaker 1: like nine swings and make contact once and it was
Speaker 1: a pop up like it was just strikeout.
Speaker 2: It just looked really bad.
Speaker 1: So those those were my l so I can relate
Speaker 1: to kind of hoping people forget about those eventually.
Speaker 3: Exactly, like have short memories everyone. We talked about this
Speaker 3: just briefly. But one another thing I learned, or at
Speaker 3: least had reinforces, like you always want a rookie in
Speaker 3: their second stint in the Majors. Matt Shaw has come
Speaker 3: back up, and I think I'll talk about him in
Speaker 3: the next segment. But the first one sometimes gets ugly.
Speaker 3: The second one, you know, he tends to go way
Speaker 3: better because, like you said, they go down, they prove
Speaker 3: there's nothing else to do, and then they come back up.
Speaker 3: But since they'd already seen it, it's like there's a
Speaker 3: I think there's a level of relaxation, level of adjustment
Speaker 3: that they are much more comfortable with. And you know,
Speaker 3: I mean there's a learning curve, right, There's a learning
Speaker 3: curve when you join any new company, and I think
Speaker 3: we just have to take that in consideration with uh,
Speaker 3: with rookies for sure. So that's that's that lesson. The
Speaker 3: next one is really kind of sort of a last weekend,
Speaker 3: I went to a winery in Wisconsin because I'm right
Speaker 3: on the border. And I walked in and it was
Speaker 3: a kind of a birthday gathering for someone. So there
Speaker 3: are people that I didn't know. And one of the
Speaker 3: people was wearing a Tiger's jersey in Wisconsin at a winery,
Speaker 3: and I was like, what in the hell is that?
Speaker 3: And all I could see was the last number was five,
Speaker 3: and so I'm like, okay, maybe a baseball fan. So
Speaker 3: I'm like cool, I'm like, are you wearing a Verlander jersey?
Speaker 3: And she was like no, She's like it's a Brandon
Speaker 3: in jersey. And I'm like, you are kidding. I'm like okay,
Speaker 3: And so like that was my It's important to be
Speaker 3: open to all fandoms, and people get there there they
Speaker 3: fall in love with certain players for certain reasons. This
Speaker 3: is also my opportunity to tell everyone that Justin Ferlander
Speaker 3: is washed and you don't have to try to keep
Speaker 3: him on your teams. That's that's how I brought that
Speaker 3: back around.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Kelly, Yeah, what is your
Speaker 1: most obscure jersey and or shersey that you own?
Speaker 3: You want to go with ever owned, because that's way
Speaker 3: easier like, sure, okay, Yeah, Like I was, I owned
Speaker 3: a Nick Punto jersey because for the Twins, I loved him.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, nice, I mean, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I just thought he was, like he was just my
Speaker 3: favorite player for a little while. So I owned a
Speaker 3: Punto shirt. Yeah, And I was like, and I got
Speaker 3: the same look that I probably gave this person with
Speaker 3: the Industrants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got a Ramon Hernandez Orioles suersey.
Speaker 2: Uh, from a number of years ago.
Speaker 1: I certainly I can't fit in it anymore, but I
Speaker 1: still own it, I think.
Speaker 2: And then I have for jersey.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, my college roommate just thought it would
Speaker 1: be funny to own an Oakland Athletics Jack Cust jersey,
Speaker 1: and so we had that hanging in our college dorm.
Speaker 1: And then when we moved out, he was like, I
Speaker 1: don't really want this anywhere?
Speaker 2: Do you want it?
Speaker 1: I was like sure, So I just have this Cust
Speaker 1: jersey in my house.
Speaker 3: I remember another one with Cubs. I was watching the
Speaker 3: Cubs game with my wife and and we were like,
Speaker 3: if Jeremy Burnitz gets a hit here, I will buy
Speaker 3: his jersey. And he like walked off Homer and and
Speaker 3: she looks at me and she's like, we'll order it.
Speaker 2: Like you have to, you can't back out.
Speaker 3: And then the te fell off. So then she had
Speaker 3: her Bernie Zu, which we laughed at forever. So then
Speaker 3: and the next two speaking of the Cubs, always remember
Speaker 3: whoever the Cub's closer is, they are only currently that closer.
Speaker 3: Go pick them up and then they will start blowing saves.
Speaker 3: And then the Cup the Cubs have a d D
Speaker 3: when it comes to trying to figure out a bullpen.
Speaker 3: If Valencia is it, I would love that, But in
Speaker 3: my entire Cubs fandom, I can remember the amount of
Speaker 3: times we had a closer that I was like, that's
Speaker 3: our closer, So just be aware of that for fantasy.
Speaker 3: And then the last one is I would like to
Speaker 3: publicly apologize to Pete crow Armstrong. I literally in two
Speaker 3: different leagues. I was like, I can't believe that I'm
Speaker 3: gonna get stuck with him. Like I was just like, fine,
Speaker 3: I'll just take Pete kor Armstrong in the league I'm
Speaker 3: in with my dad. He drafted him. I made fun
Speaker 3: of him because I was like, I'm like, you can't
Speaker 3: draft him there like, I'm like, that is like fourteen
Speaker 3: rounds too early, you know, blah blah blah. And I've
Speaker 3: gotten to talk to my dad a lot more this
Speaker 3: season because I feel like he wants to call me,
Speaker 3: like every time he does anything good. And he's got
Speaker 3: fifteen homers and fifteen steels, so it's a fair amount.
Speaker 3: But so that's those are the lessons I've learned so far.
Speaker 1: I told there this recently because I had I had
Speaker 1: pee Kor Armstrong as a cell high. Not that I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be terrible, but just like, you know,
Speaker 1: get a stud if you can. And in one of
Speaker 1: my leagues, it's a two catcher roto league, and there's
Speaker 1: there's some keeper elements at play, and cal Raley is
Speaker 1: a very very good keeper value.
Speaker 2: Even aside from the fact that he's.
Speaker 1: A great catcher to have in a two catcher league,
Speaker 1: he's also a good keeper value. And he got traded
Speaker 1: for PCA earlier this year, and the trade almost got
Speaker 1: vetoed because everybody was like, this is insane to give
Speaker 1: up cal Raleigh for only this, And now it almost
Speaker 1: looks like they're I mean, they're both even good to
Speaker 1: vary degrees but like it almost looks other reverse, like
Speaker 1: holy cow, you got p K. Armstrong for just a catcher,
Speaker 1: Like I mean it, it's funny how quickly that can be,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of painted in a different way, in
Speaker 1: a different.
Speaker 2: Light just a month later.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I mean, and that's another it's a good
Speaker 3: story to kind of remember why you don't veto trades
Speaker 3: unless they're so I mean, they have to be sol
Speaker 3: lopsided and like in order. But if it's like if
Speaker 3: I value this guy like this, like who are you
Speaker 3: to tell me not to? Again with the exceptions, but
Speaker 3: I also wanted to just say.
Speaker 1: The funny thing is the manager that did that quickly
Speaker 1: is really really incompetent. He's new to our league, and
Speaker 1: like I actually can't even describe to you how bad
Speaker 1: his draft was.
Speaker 3: Is it mayir?
Speaker 1: No, it was like I think he took Christian Campbell.
Speaker 1: So there's so there's five keepers for each team, so
Speaker 1: fifty players are off the board. But if you were
Speaker 1: drafting the first two rounds, you can't be kept, so
Speaker 1: there are studs available. Plus you know you can only
Speaker 1: keep five guys, so like a good I had to
Speaker 1: throw back like Dever's and you know, Bregman and like
Speaker 1: guys like that, Like there were players available plus those
Speaker 1: first two round studs, and he took rookie Sasaki with
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, ahead of like Mookie Bets and
Speaker 1: like a bunch of other people. He took Christian Campbell
Speaker 1: in the third round again ahead of like all these
Speaker 1: great like very good players still on the board, and
Speaker 1: that was like the entire draft, like like I was like,
Speaker 1: this guy seems very incompetent at this And so then
Speaker 1: he was also making the trade and we were like, okay,
Speaker 1: like he's clearly somebody's taking advantage because he's not what
Speaker 1: he's doing. But this one worked out for now he
Speaker 1: now as Speaker Armstrong as a great keeper moving forward
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: And I was also just gonna say, I want in
Speaker 3: the comments people to drop their most obscure ersey jersey
Speaker 3: and the story about why you own it would be
Speaker 3: even better. But I love that conversation.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe we can. I don't want to promise this,
Speaker 1: but we'll ask you if we can hook up the
Speaker 1: most obscure one we find with something like you know,
Speaker 1: premium subscription or something like that.
Speaker 2: No promises, do it just for fun?
Speaker 1: And for the conversation, but we'll ask to see if
Speaker 1: we can get that approved as well too, So give
Speaker 1: us your best most obscure jerseys and or cherseys. We'll
Speaker 1: go ahead and wrap up rounding the bases there. We
Speaker 1: will be around for Part two and Part three, where
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some buys and cells and
Speaker 1: waiver guys. And then of course Part three will be
Speaker 1: the the streaming pictures and our two start picture competition
Speaker 1: for Kelly.
Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Warley for part one. Thanks for tuning in,
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