WEBVTT - The Cycle: Rounding The Bases (Ep. 1029)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle. I am Ryan Warmley,

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<v Speaker 1>joined today, not by Mike Mayor. He is off doing

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<v Speaker 1>I think some kind of recovery from some minor whatever thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fine, he's not here though. He always gives me

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time when I'm not here, so I will

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<v Speaker 1>return the favor in kind. I am joined as he's

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<v Speaker 1>usually joined when I'm gone, by the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Kirby.

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly, thanks for coming on today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me. It's nice to

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<v Speaker 3>do this with you instead of him. But we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of are the surgical triplets, aren't We like us and

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<v Speaker 3>our procedures are just constantly.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always something, Yes, you know, we're never able to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid whatever. I actually it's not even I'm trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, protect his private you know business. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually even know what he's got going on. I just

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<v Speaker 1>know he's out for some some minor things. So he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. I will actually be gone next

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<v Speaker 1>week for a family trip, so you will be filling

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<v Speaker 1>in again. Back on the other side, you will unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>be stuck with Mayor again next week. But this week

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<v Speaker 1>we get the rare Worm and Kelly show. Really really,

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<v Speaker 1>we could call it the zoo. It's it's worm and

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<v Speaker 1>penguin together. So we got we've got some animals going

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<v Speaker 1>on here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're by the way, Oh yeah, I mean, who would

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<v Speaker 2>go to see a worm?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess like they have like little worm farms at

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<v Speaker 1>some of like the little bug exhibits, Like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like my nephew might enjoy that, you know, kids like bugs,

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<v Speaker 1>but as a general zoo, you know, exhibit that, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that would be that impressive. But yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be talking kind of, you know, doing what we

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<v Speaker 1>usually do here. We're gonna be rounding the bases with

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<v Speaker 1>some trending topics. We've got a fun little thing kind

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<v Speaker 1>of at the end of round of the bases. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping it will be kind of the bulk of

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<v Speaker 1>the segment where Kelly will be going through some of

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<v Speaker 1>her lessons learned so far. Two months into the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five Fantasy baseball season, Kelly obviously knows a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more about fantasy baseball than I do, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that more than Mayor does too, although that is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily reflected in the standings in Dan Harris's league,

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<v Speaker 1>which you are also in and I like to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up because Mayor is in last place. There you, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>are in second to last place, so I get to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hold over both of you guys for the

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<v Speaker 1>time being in my first season in the league. But

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be doing those lessons learned from Kelly. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>also talking, like I said, some trending topics, some news notes,

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<v Speaker 1>and injuries, all that good stuff. And as always, this

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<v Speaker 1>is part one of three parts of the cycle for

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<v Speaker 1>the week, so it'd be sure to check out not

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<v Speaker 1>only this episode if you're watching, this will be the

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<v Speaker 1>first one to drop both on audio and video, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the other couple of segments as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Throughout the weekend. All right, Kelly, let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to kind of just start with this is

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<v Speaker 1>from a couple of days ago, obviously, but Ronald Acunya

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<v Speaker 1>coming back like on Fire, obviously a couple of huge

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<v Speaker 1>home runs in that weekend series, his first time back,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off of you know, yet another long you know

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<v Speaker 1>time being out due to injury. We talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>Meyer and myself in the preseason about where were ranking

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<v Speaker 1>Acuna this year, because once he's back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>really want him in our rosters. He was a little

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<v Speaker 1>slower coming back the last time he was coming back

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<v Speaker 1>from Attorney ACL. Obviously it's still early, very small sample

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<v Speaker 1>size in twenty twenty five, but certainly a great start,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to begin with, for him. So I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of dispose the question to you, like a

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<v Speaker 1>initial thoughts and seeing him back in the field. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun as fantasy managers to see him back, but

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<v Speaker 1>be now that he is back and looking like pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much his old self, how many players are there in

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy baseball that you would be ranking ahead of him

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<v Speaker 1>rest of season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean not many. I think right off the

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<v Speaker 3>top of my head. I thought of Judge, unfortunately, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm usually a pretty big Aaron Judge, Denier Otani, Corbyn Carroll,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe given how he's been doing lately, But that is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the list I think at this point, because

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<v Speaker 3>if he continues what he's doing that I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>where you put anyone else above him. However, that being said,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're going with what do I see as the

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<v Speaker 3>injury risk the rest of season, I would put a

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<v Speaker 3>couple more people ahead of him, I think, just to

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<v Speaker 3>like I would I would still rather have Loon Soto

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<v Speaker 3>than Akunya in terms of I think he'll be healthy

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going to have a monster second half, but

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<v Speaker 3>everything else a Kuney brings to the table, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a little fresher than everybody else, like he's third

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<v Speaker 3>fourth maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we weren't going to do a segment on Sodo,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm glad you brought it up because there's been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, headlines recently about like you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Mets aren't worried about him and everything, and I'm like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I get that the average is really low. It's to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, and the OBP is low for his standards

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<v Speaker 1>of course at three fifty two right now ops under

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred. Like it has been maybe worse than you

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<v Speaker 1>would have expected. At the same time, like I don't, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if we're putting together like we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>doing our bi lows in a future segment, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like mon Soda is a by low, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>like most people are pretty reasonably confident that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, continuing to be a really valuable player,

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<v Speaker 1>and also by the way, he's stolen seven bases in

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<v Speaker 1>his career high as twelve, so he's already over halfway there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not even you know, through May yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Sodo is a good one to bring

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<v Speaker 1>up because I I mean, I tend to agree with you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>given just the kind of the looming sort of damicles

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<v Speaker 1>of Acuna's injury history looming over his head, like I

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<v Speaker 1>would rather have some of these other guys ahead of him,

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<v Speaker 1>just for no other reason than that. But it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like what you say, fourth you were it was Judge

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<v Speaker 1>Otani maybe Carol and that was about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's just kind of where I start.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Bobby Witt is still there, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the Royals lineup is around him isn't doing

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<v Speaker 3>so hot, So I'm not necessarily in on his counting stats.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, with Soto, I looked at him as a

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<v Speaker 3>bilo because this is probably as low of a bye

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<v Speaker 3>as you can get on him, right if if everything's

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<v Speaker 3>relative like this is the only time I can remember

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<v Speaker 3>that you can buy losa on Soto. But his expected stats,

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<v Speaker 3>like his expected by average I think is around like

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<v Speaker 3>two to eighty five or something. His slug everything should

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<v Speaker 3>come back to normal. It's just waiting that out. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you can find a manager who doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>wait that out, jump on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, give it a try.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with a Kunya, what would you say he had

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<v Speaker 1>to put a percentage chance to it? Is the percentage

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<v Speaker 1>chance that in February of twenty twenty six next year,

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<v Speaker 1>he is.

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<v Speaker 2>The number one overall pick.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say, I'm not going to say that overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 1>like consensus number one pick, because obviously Tany's amazing and

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<v Speaker 1>Judge is having this awesome season, but that he is,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say the consensus number one. Like in ECR, he

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<v Speaker 1>is the number one guy. What percentage chance would you

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<v Speaker 1>give Acunya being back there a year from now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it's really hard. I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we should always just drop Otani from the whole

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<v Speaker 3>conversation because I feel like I just feel like he'll

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<v Speaker 3>be the number one like ECR, So I would give

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<v Speaker 3>a Kunia like almost zero percent chance to be the

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<v Speaker 3>ECR number one. But if we drop him out just

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<v Speaker 3>for you know, posterity's sake, then yeah, I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>think I would give it, I don't know, sixty seventy percent.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean pretty high. Like I'm not sure. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure who would take over, like the judge, wit Combo,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Carol, depend on how he finishes. Who else are

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna like Kyle Tucker? But like he's in his

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<v Speaker 3>contract year, so I mean, I'm not expecting he's not

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<v Speaker 3>go I'm not expecting his big of things next year

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<v Speaker 3>from him. So yeah, I mean I think it's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>high if he stays healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question on Acunya, given some of the injury stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you alluded to, and you know the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>whoever has him is probably like they probably don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to trade him obviously because they held laund him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they got him at this discount and draft day, and

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<v Speaker 1>now is the time you get to kind of reap

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<v Speaker 1>those benefits if somebody is looking to maybe sell high

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<v Speaker 1>and say, hey he's back, but you never know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this great start.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is the Akunya of old.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be willing to trade him for something like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that was going later in the first round

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<v Speaker 1>in drafts or maybe a second rounder as part of

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<v Speaker 1>a package, so something like Churio plus another player or

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<v Speaker 1>Gunnar Henderson who's gotten off to really slow start plus

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<v Speaker 1>another player somebody like that, would you be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>move Acunya or would it have to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one of these elly, like have him playing like a

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<v Speaker 1>stud type of studs would be the only way you

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<v Speaker 1>would move him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I think it is the best time

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<v Speaker 3>to sell high because he's healthy. I mean this is

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<v Speaker 3>these are the rules and if you wanted to the

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<v Speaker 3>first thought that I had is if I could get

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<v Speaker 3>if I could get like a Scoobaal Jackson Merrill combo,

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<v Speaker 3>like I like these are That's where I would start.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, if I could pull a number one starter

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<v Speaker 3>out right now, given how pitching looks injury wise, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's not everyone's pitching. It might just be my pitching

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<v Speaker 3>across eight leagues, but I need help, So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>would Actually I'd be okay with that, I think, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on how you need to fill out your team.

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<v Speaker 1>can you I think I think I'd probably rather take

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<v Speaker 1>a Ramirez in the kind of that category of thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about the injury stuff as well.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy who might.

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<v Speaker 1>Get to this level one day is our next topic here,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman Anthony, and he's not called up yet, has ever

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<v Speaker 1>recorded this Thursday afternoon, but it just feels like he

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<v Speaker 1>has to be close to call. Jeff Passon actually had

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<v Speaker 1>an article about both him and Jack Caglione in the

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City's Organization. He had the article on ESPN today

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of about like why aren't these guys up yet,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's some speculation of like Super two related stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There's you know, the fact that, like I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox. One of the examples that Jeff uses in

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<v Speaker 1>his article is that Christian Campbell has been struggling, so

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<v Speaker 1>you never know that, you know, how a top prospect

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come up and make that instant impact.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it just feels so obvious

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<v Speaker 1>that Anthony has like nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>To learn at the minor league level.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he is the number one prospect in baseball,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just I just feel like the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>ground swell of conversation about him is coming to a

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<v Speaker 1>tipping point, and I'm assuming he's going to be up soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to kind of just hit on.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted people to be prepared in case it does happen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, in the next week, before our next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to be prepared with what are we

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<v Speaker 1>doing now? He's likely rostered in a lot of leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>just because the top prospect in baseball is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be rostered in a lot of leagues. But is he

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that you have such high expectations for right off

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<v Speaker 1>the bat that you would be interested in trying to

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<v Speaker 1>trade for now if you didn't roster him, or in

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<v Speaker 1>the off chance he is available, Like obviously I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should pick him up, But you know, would you

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<v Speaker 1>be trying to trade for him now? Would you be

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<v Speaker 1>trying to sell before he comes up and possibly disappoints

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<v Speaker 1>What are your general expectations for Anthony when he does

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<v Speaker 1>get the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I think one of the things that the Red

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<v Speaker 3>Sox are doing is, you know, they tried to change

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<v Speaker 3>all the rules for like the playing time manipulation situation,

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<v Speaker 3>which once you get into this time of year with

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<v Speaker 3>a guy like Anthony, that's your most that's Ockham's razor, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's the most logical explanation. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I have pretty high expectations for him. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>will jump kind of in and start off hot. I

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<v Speaker 3>also think there's no clear rookie of the year in

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<v Speaker 3>the American League, and I feel like that is a

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<v Speaker 3>that's another concern for Boston that if if they bring

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<v Speaker 3>him up and he wins, that I think that they

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<v Speaker 3>lose a year on him, I believe, or something along

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<v Speaker 3>those lines. So he I feel like that's the issue

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, is they're just kind of looking for,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, how to best do this. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's gonna hit. But I also, unfortunately subscribe

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<v Speaker 3>to the Joe piece of Pia rule, which is when

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<v Speaker 3>they come up, that is the highest time to sell.

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<v Speaker 3>Like once he gets to call, if there is something

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<v Speaker 3>that you need and it's not a dynasty league, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the time to go. And if there's somebody, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you play play in a league with a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of East Coast bias, people like you know, target them

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<v Speaker 3>because they're gonna be way probably way more excited than

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<v Speaker 3>you are. So yeah, I if I have him, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>holding when he gets called up. If there's someone that's

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<v Speaker 3>interested and I there's a piece that I need, I

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<v Speaker 3>I basically never have trouble flipping rookies in in redraft.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially recently. And again this is something that I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot with Mayor Is. I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 1>such a common thing to see play out now that

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<v Speaker 1>these top prospects are taking longer than ever to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>to the big leagues. Because there are exceptions, but by

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<v Speaker 1>and large, it feels like the elite, elite guys are

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<v Speaker 1>not hitting the ground running the way we maybe got

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<v Speaker 1>used to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>The gap and pitching between the minor leagues, the upper

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<v Speaker 1>minor leagues even and major league baseball is as wide

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<v Speaker 1>as it's ever been. And in that article I reference

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<v Speaker 1>Passon talks about Jackson Holliday as an example of just

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<v Speaker 1>a year ago was the number one over prospect in

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<v Speaker 1>baseball in Ale East organization comes up and wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>like not living up to the light, but was like

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<v Speaker 1>so bad he had to get sent down in like

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks, Like was that bad at first? My usual

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<v Speaker 1>takeaway from that is, Okay, well let's get the adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way sooner rather than later and just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get through it. But it does mean for

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy managers like that has to be as good of

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<v Speaker 1>a prospect as Roman Anthony is. That has to be

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of your mind as a possible outcome

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<v Speaker 1>here when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are looking at when you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Top prospects who are soon to be called up, you

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<v Speaker 1>could throw Kagalion in.

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<v Speaker 2>This conversation if you want to. Also, do you think about.

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<v Speaker 1>All the prospects who have struggled or do you do

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<v Speaker 1>you try and look at each individual guy as this

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the type of profile that maybe won't struggle

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<v Speaker 1>as much because because I think that can be tricky,

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<v Speaker 1>because I probably would have said that with Holiday, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>as this is the type of guy who maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling isn't going to be crazy high right after the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought he was a floor type of guy

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<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't have that in I thought he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to adjust really well because that's what he'd done his

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. He had you know, Dad is an all

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<v Speaker 1>star hitter. Like it seems like such an obvious this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's going to be a good baseball player right after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't. So do you just look at kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the general hole and say this guy probably isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the exception or do you say, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>based on you know, Kagalian's elite power or Anthony's overall profile,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these guys seem like exceptions to the rule.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean that's a really interesting question because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how you discern it. Right, Like a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago, there was a giant like every rookie

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<v Speaker 3>that came in like lit the world on fire, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was so much fun for everyone because like, now

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<v Speaker 3>you had this young stud doing what he what you

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<v Speaker 3>expected him to. But that's just not the norm. So

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of like looking at it, I guess I

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<v Speaker 3>have the way I kind of I think assess it

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<v Speaker 3>is what team are they playing on? How long of

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<v Speaker 3>a leash are they going to be given? Because they

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<v Speaker 3>can sometimes hit their way out of it, right, but

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<v Speaker 3>they have to be play, they have to get play

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<v Speaker 3>every day or almost every day. They have to be

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to kind of work through, do the batting practice,

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<v Speaker 3>talk to the veterans, like and I think some organizations

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<v Speaker 3>are just less likely to let that, like let that

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<v Speaker 3>happen Holliday last year. I mean, he was so atrocious

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<v Speaker 3>that there was just no way that. I mean, at

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<v Speaker 3>that point you start to talk about, you know, killing

0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.320
<v Speaker 3>his confiden and considering that I thought he was like

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years old when he got there, I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to kill a twelve year old. It's confidence,

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<v Speaker 3>So send him back down for a minute. But yeah, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 3>I think is just in the unique position because I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like the Red Sox will give him that leash,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think that they will let him hit his

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<v Speaker 3>way out of it. But as the season goes on

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<v Speaker 3>and depending, I mean, the al YaST is super competitive.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't know if they'll leave if he

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<v Speaker 3>does come up and struggle for a while, Like, will

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<v Speaker 3>they leave that empty spot in the roster is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're less likely, Whereas I think if

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<v Speaker 3>Keaglione gets up, the Royals will let him fly for

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's your spot on.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kaglion will, like when he's up, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be getting every day at bats, Like I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see any anyway around it. Whereas Anthony yet, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>weird because like on the one hand, the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 1>are in fourth place, they're below five hundred. But on

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<v Speaker 1>the other hand, like you said, like it is a

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<v Speaker 1>really competitive, you know division for the most part, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Oriols aren't as good as expected, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Blue Jays are also below five hundred. The Rais

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<v Speaker 1>are only a game above five hundred. Like there's room

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<v Speaker 1>to make moves in the division. I wonder if I'm

0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.320
<v Speaker 1>on Boston's side, it will be more if they would

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<v Speaker 1>be more inclined, like if Campbell was hitting really well,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and like you know, if Bregman was healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, they probably don't want Anthony in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where he needs to be a star right away,

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<v Speaker 1>where he kind of would need to be right now

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<v Speaker 1>given the shape of that lineup. And I really wish

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor was on this episode if we're talking poorly about

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox as an organization, but sadly he's not here,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Let's go to our next topic here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of where we usually do our news

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<v Speaker 1>notes and injuries. I didn't have a ton that I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote down, just a handful of him. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>any others that you saw, please feel free to join

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<v Speaker 1>in with those as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Renel Blanco out for the year with.

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy John obviously that's going to linger into next season

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<v Speaker 1>as well. You know somebody who's had some good stretches

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of years, but not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>available anytime soon. Boba Schett day to day lower back Titans.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually hit a home run yesterday, so clearly doing

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<v Speaker 1>you know better in that regard.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote this down before the homer, but so I

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<v Speaker 2>to keep an eye on.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually considered Bischett for by Low when we do

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<v Speaker 1>that segment later on. I didn't end up picking him,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually partially because of the injury stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to pick a guy who was hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've been a Bichette fan for a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this year at his costs, so it's gonna keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Kwan left the game yesterday for the Guardians with

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<v Speaker 1>right right wrist inflammation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's hard to say, right wrist.

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<v Speaker 1>And then lastly, Colton Kowser and Jordan Westburg both have

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<v Speaker 1>started rehab stance this week for the Orioles. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>Kowser started yesterday and Westburg starts today if I have

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<v Speaker 1>that right, So they are both close to returning to

0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a lineup that boy, could they sure use an infusion

0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of some real hitting talent right now. So obviously, again

0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.960
<v Speaker 1>there's not much san Blanco out for the year. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bishett seemingly getting better. Kwan, I don't think there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of updates there. But Kowser and Westburg I

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<v Speaker 1>think is a really interesting one here, just as these

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<v Speaker 1>are two like definitely viable fantasy starting options for your lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Westburg especially who you've been without for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the year, and especially with Westburg at a

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<v Speaker 1>position like third base give the nature of that position,

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<v Speaker 1>I think could be a real boost to some teams.

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<v Speaker 3>As a person who drafted Jordan Westburg everywhere, I would

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<v Speaker 3>like it to be a boost us to our teams.

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<v Speaker 3>And I drafted him for that exactly for that eligibility

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<v Speaker 3>and the power that he showed. I mean I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if I can get that at second base or third base, like,

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<v Speaker 3>let me like he has second base eligibility in some

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<v Speaker 3>of my leagues, Like that is perfect, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he was the guy. I feel like every year

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<v Speaker 3>in fantasy there's one guy that near the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the season, I'm like, why didn't I go after this guy? Ever,

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<v Speaker 3>like and Westburg last year was that guy, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, then you fall in love a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>with a player and then you draft him everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he's injured for the first two months of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean I think and Cowsers equally as interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they if they can come back and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of resume what they were doing last year, not only

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<v Speaker 3>is Baltimore gonna get better, but yeah, fantasy teams everyone

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<v Speaker 3>because I assume almost everyone held onto the two of them,

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, they might be worth a by low before

0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.960
<v Speaker 3>they get back. If you are looking for something, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of power and especially from a name

0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.400
<v Speaker 3>fielder spot, so I might go after him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kowser especially talking about the power. I mean

0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.640
<v Speaker 1>last year he in five hundred at bats, twenty four

0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.920
<v Speaker 1>arm runs, also nine stolen bases. I think there's a

0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:31.600
<v Speaker 1>room for the batting average to get better too. It

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.399
<v Speaker 1>was two forty two last year. Like he had that

0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>reputation in college, which was a while ago at this one,

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.040
<v Speaker 1>but are that reputation of being a better contact heater

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 1>than that? I think he is kind of the thumb

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the lineup that the Orioles are missing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with Gunner like playing poorly and added playing poorly too.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think like Kowser sliding into that four or

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.040
<v Speaker 1>five spot, I think that will help more than people

0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>are giving credence to. And Westburg is just like a

0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 1>very good all around player, Like I am very excited

0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to have him back in the lineup as well as

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, But I think I agree that like like Wes,

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<v Speaker 1>Westbroog is the one that stands out to me as

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm more excited about that return than Kowser, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of that is just the positional stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>part of it is, like I think he's a better

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<v Speaker 1>overall player. But I think Kowser's upside rest of season,

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<v Speaker 1>if he just if he is back and fully healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>is like actually pretty significant, and most people hung on

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<v Speaker 1>to him but I would maybe be looking to trade

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<v Speaker 1>for him if you could get him as like a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a part of a larger deal. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can include him, I think there's real power upside for

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<v Speaker 1>rest of season. Like it would not surprise me he's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to reach thirty homers this year, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't surprise me if he kind of spends the next

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<v Speaker 1>four months at a thirty homer pace coming back. That

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<v Speaker 1>just the type of hittor he is. And then, and

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, we both love Westbroog for sure. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the two guys this year that I got

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<v Speaker 1>like pretty much everywhere because of some of the positional versatility.

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, one of them obviously more proven than the other,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just really like both players a lot. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Jordan Westburg and Matt Shaw, and then one of

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<v Speaker 1>them gets hurt and the other one he gets sent

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<v Speaker 1>down to the minors. So it was not the most

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<v Speaker 1>fun in April for investing heavily in those two guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Calser and Westburg are going to make a

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<v Speaker 1>difference for fantasy rosters coming back. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Baschet just because I didn't pick him in

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<v Speaker 1>the later segment, so we're not gonna be really talking

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<v Speaker 1>about him there. But like I said, he hits the

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<v Speaker 1>home run, has this lower back tightness. He's somebody that again,

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<v Speaker 1>I really was drafting a lot of this year because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just a really good price on

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<v Speaker 1>him where he was going. You know, he's age twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven season now, Like he's been good in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he was coming off that disastrous and injury

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<v Speaker 1>short into your last year. You know, kind of looking

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<v Speaker 1>at just what he's done this year, like it's not

0:21:40.080 --> 0:21:41.919
<v Speaker 1>like he's been sending the world on fire, but clearly

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<v Speaker 1>better than last year at the very least.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you kind of make of him

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<v Speaker 2>rest the season?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I had high hopes for him as well, and

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<v Speaker 3>I like that his batting average has bounced back to

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's batting to seventy seven. So last year

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<v Speaker 3>that was actually the killer for me that you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of drafted him with the idea that he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to hit for average and give you a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of power, but you know, kind of hold down some

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<v Speaker 3>of your counting stats and and this year he seems

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<v Speaker 3>to have bounced back a little bit harder with that

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<v Speaker 3>the bang average and he scored twenty three runs and

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 3>and the five homers is you know, obviously we'd like

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<v Speaker 3>it to be more. But he's also tried six stolen

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<v Speaker 3>bases and made it four of them, so he's he's

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<v Speaker 3>been doing a little bit more of the all around stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was I was in on him mostly because

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<v Speaker 3>I was I was so in on Vladdie, hoping we'd

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<v Speaker 3>go the whole year without him getting a contract, and

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<v Speaker 3>instead he got that, and then I was like, can

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<v Speaker 3>I undraft him everywhere? But but the two of them together,

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<v Speaker 3>like I feel like if he can just stay healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's just been the big problem. And low back

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<v Speaker 3>tightness is always that's one of those weird like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, that's just one of the weird ones where

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<v Speaker 3>you have no idea how long they're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be out for everybody ever ever to have a bad back.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever like no, like somebody says oblique, it's like, oh

0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.359
<v Speaker 3>that's going forever, but like a low back, it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where we at.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, let's get into what I'm most looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to on this episode is Kelly Kirby's lessons learned

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<v Speaker 1>so far in twenty twenty five. Now, I don't you

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<v Speaker 1>have not shared these with me, so I get to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of react to them live you. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how many you came up with. So this could

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<v Speaker 1>be short, this could be long.

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<v Speaker 2>We can take this as long as you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to dive into all your lessons learned

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<v Speaker 1>so far this season two months in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so just brace yourself. I'm gonna go on for

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<v Speaker 3>abun hour. But I'm I'm okay. So one of the

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:34.399
<v Speaker 3>things that I I got invited to participate in tell

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Wars this year, which it was kind of like imagine

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<v Speaker 3>being invited to a party with like people everyone that

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 3>you've ever wanted to like meet, except they're inviting you

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<v Speaker 3>to compete against them, and and it's it was like

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<v Speaker 3>the most intimidating thing that I've been a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't play a lot of fifteen team rotal leagues.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't play a lot of fifteen team rotal leagues

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, fantasy Baseball geniuses. And the whole time

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<v Speaker 3>I was just like, I feel like I'm a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit out of my element here, and then I went

0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 3>and proved it. So and a fifteen team rotal league.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things I learned is it is actually

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<v Speaker 3>important to draft saves, so there's even though there's turnover

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<v Speaker 3>on the wire, like you gotta lock down probably at

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 3>least one that you know is going to get him,

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 3>barring injury, of course. And instead, what I did was

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 3>I drafted a whole lot of handcuffs, and those have

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<v Speaker 3>gone very poorly, Like Griffin Jack's right off the top

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<v Speaker 3>of my head, not because I thought Duran was going

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<v Speaker 3>to get injured, but he just usually has such solid numbers,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was trying very hard to protect my ratios

0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.560
<v Speaker 3>in those leagues. But yeah, that didn't work out so

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<v Speaker 3>well because I also really liked Sandy olo Contra and

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:54.120
<v Speaker 3>so those ratios are are shot. But we'll talk about

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 3>him in just a second. So yeah, that's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest things that I took away from it, where

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like I kept passing on relievers, and even

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 3>in our league with with Dan, I kept passing on relievers,

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.679
<v Speaker 3>and so I'm stuck with Hoffman, who's you know, locking

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 3>down saves, but he has a six something ere and

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 3>he's just been, you know, a mess. So that's I

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>hate drafting saves, but it's important in road leagues. The

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<v Speaker 3>second thing I learned, Okay, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel that way quickly, I want to ask, do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel that way like it's pronounced in a league like

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<v Speaker 1>towt Wars, But do you feel that way kind of

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<v Speaker 1>going into next season in terms of like a twelve

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>team league or like in rodo, like you just want

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to lock somebody down because for me, like it's it's

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>something that I want to be good at, but it's

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>often hard to predict year to year we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>good outside of the truly elites yet, but even with

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the truly elites, like I have Devin Williams everywhere this year,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was locking in at the top. I

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 1>thought I was locking in the number one gy honestly, Like,

0:25:57.080 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I could not have been more high on Devin Williams

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>this season, and clearly that could not have It could

0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 1>not possibly have gone worse. So would you apply that

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<v Speaker 1>same lesson to a more normally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's not as important, but again and in head

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<v Speaker 3>to head, I will punt saves till the end of time,

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't care in the least about that, But

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 3>like in ROTO, it's like, yeah, I still want at

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<v Speaker 3>least someone that I know is going to start the

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<v Speaker 3>year as the closer and presumably has that role kind

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 3>of locked down. So even when a Devin Williams happens,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, it's like it we started there. Like

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<v Speaker 3>on paper, statistically speaking, he should have been good, he

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.080
<v Speaker 3>should have been solid. He but I never I didn't

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 3>draft him because I don't like guys who have who

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 3>broke their backs. But uh, that scares me, just dismitch.

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean like Duran out of the out

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.680
<v Speaker 3>of Minnesota, like I have him a couple of places,

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>but not in Roe because it's like, well he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>lock it down, but and he has the job basically

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 3>until someone takes it or unless he gets injured. That's

0:26:55.640 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 3>the type that I want to lock in on roto.

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<v Speaker 3>And so next year I would definitely aim to draft

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<v Speaker 3>one or two. But for sure, one the key is

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<v Speaker 3>to not feel like you're overpaying, and in auction leagues,

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>I always feel like I'm overpaid for closers. So that's my.

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I ended up our work kind of insiders league that

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>we're in with Fantasy Pros. It's a really kind of

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 1>an odd league because of the nature of our company.

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>We actually have it set to end in mid August,

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>so we don't go the full season in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something that you and myself and Mayor are

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>all kind of pushing back against.

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 2>But it's the way the league is set up, and

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 2>we're not the commissioner, so we don't have control over it.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And in that league, it's head to head categories, and

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I decided to see that. I did want to go

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 1>heavy on reliever because it's a daily league too, so

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I figure it, Listen, if I can get three or

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>four relievers I really like, and then I just rotate

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in starters every day, I'm going to be winning a

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of these pitching categories every week, and then as

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 1>long as my hitting is just okay, I'll be winning

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>most weeks. And I had Devin Williams was my big purchase,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I definitely overpaid for him. You know,

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I was able to pick up like Kyle fin Again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also a really shallow league. It's a ten team

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>because we have multiple like versions of the league and

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>very short benches, so it's a very There are players

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>on the waivers in that league that people would be

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>shocked at, but it's just the way the league kind

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of is, so it's it's kind of a unique system.

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>But that was one where I went most heavily on relievers,

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty much that I did in any other

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>league this year, and again because I picked Devin Williams

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>as one of the guys that has burned me.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the three of us

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 3>have a chat that we like labeled we hate the

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 3>Insiders Baseball set up, like because I feel like we

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 3>talk about it a lot, and it will pick up

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:42.080
<v Speaker 3>now that we're getting into like what some people consider

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 3>playoff season at our company, like we're.

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Basically in the equivalent of like August for most other teams.

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the playoffs will start in our league. The

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>first day of the playoffs in this league is June thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's insane.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like you can't even talk about it really because

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 3>it's just nothing applies to anything else.

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I always laugh too, because the logic from the people

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>who run the league, which listen, being a commissioner's a

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>thankless job. I get it, but like I always laugh

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>because they're like, well, you know, people get really busy

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>in August it's like our busiest month of the year

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>by a mile at the company, which I understand. But

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>also I'm like, okay, so like six people might still

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>be alive even if we like didn't go all the

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>way till September, but say we finished a couple weeks early, Like,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.800
<v Speaker 1>not even not all thirty people in this league are

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be alive anymore.

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be like a half dozen.

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I think they can handle picking some daily lineups here

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>and not you know, have it impact with too much.

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>But I digress. What's your next lesson learns?

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm a guest on the show. That's not

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>get me fired. But so then other thing I learned

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 3>was I went into a couple drafts where I was like,

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I really want batting average because I feel like batting

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 3>average can co you know, it can transfer to good

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 3>counting stats, it can transfer to other things. And in

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 3>the league that I did it the most, specifically, my

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 3>team is now collectively hitting two forty nine, but they

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 3>batted two oh two during April, and I was like, well,

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 3>that didn't work. So I think I'm going to go

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 3>back to not necessarily ignoring batting average. But like, like

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, it'll it should correct over the year, but

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>that it was killer. It was just awful. And I

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 3>have Soto in that league, so the whole time I

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>was just like, help me.

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>But well, it's one of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like pitching in general, or I always

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>equate pitching to running backs and fantasy football. It's like

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 1>those in the sense that batting average is something that

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>I really want to be good at, but I find

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it very difficult to be good at a lot of

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>the time. So I actually in the league I'm in

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>where I'm doing best this year, I'm like, it's I'm

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>running away with this. I mean it's early, but I'm

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>dominating in this roto league. And it's a like you

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 1>keep five and I had just five great keepers, which

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>went a long way. But in that league, I'm like

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty points higher than anybody else in batting average, and

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a real key to the reason why

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm running away with everything. To your point, like it

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>can be a signal of how you're doing in some

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of the other categories as well, But it's a difficult

0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>one to get right.

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Yep, for sure, And so I mean it might be

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 3>worth trying but I didn't do well on that whatsoever.

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, my third lesson is do not trust

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Mike Trout and by extension, do not trust Mike Mayor.

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.479
<v Speaker 3>He was so in on Trout every every draft we

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 3>talked about, every draft I was in with him, it

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.240
<v Speaker 3>was you know, nope, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 3>do it. And it's amazing that he basically just replicated

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>last year where his April was. I mean, his April

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 3>wasn't great in terms of like his average was terrible,

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.479
<v Speaker 3>but he produced right and then the same thing last year.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 3>He had like what ten home runs in April or something,

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and then he's gone. And it's always that just vague,

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 3>like he is the ultimate you do not know what

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 3>they're talking about. With his injury, like they could literally

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 3>be like he stubbed his toe, he's out for two months,

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 3>and then sometimes it's like he broke his wrist, but

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 3>he'll back and be back in two weeks. Like they

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 3>it's like they just don't, you don't know how to

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 3>do it. So I also just wanted to work in

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 3>a chance to tell everyone not to trust me, like Mayor.

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's been a big Mayor thing.

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Too in reacting to this injury is like they're like, well,

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it's not that big of a deal, and yet there's

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>no timeline for his Like we're not concerned, but there's

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>no timeline. He's like, what does this even mean? Like

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:25.280
<v Speaker 1>those those two things do not square with one another.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 1>He's currently one hundred and twenty fourth in our rest

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>of season consensus rankings, which by the way, is definitely

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 1>too high. I know he faced live pitching yesterday and

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>ran the bases a bit, but like even when he

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>comes back, like, what are you gonna do? Be you know,

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>confident in him staying on the field.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Of course not.

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>So there's a reason I have him nowhere, and that's

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>a that's an l for for mayor for sure this year.

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 3>And so then I you know, because I like to

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 3>make fun, but I'll also just you know, come back

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 3>with my more of my l's. Apparently I do want

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 3>to take a preseason lamp. My love of Hunter Brown.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 3>My I don't think I ever stopped talking about him.

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 3>I think every article where it was like who are

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 3>you going after? Who are your must haves? Would picture

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 3>like I was like a Hunter Brown, Hunter Roun Hunter Brown.

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 3>So he's doing exactly what I thought he was gonna do.

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I you know, he had a little bit of a

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 3>blow upstart I think the other day, but but he

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 3>doesn't concern me. I adore him. So I want everyone

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 3>to remember that, and then I want everyone to forget

0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 3>everything I said about Sandy al Contra, just entirely all

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>across the board. I cannot believe how bad he looks,

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 3>and like, just none of his pitches are doing anything.

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>No one's no, there's no swinging, there's no like he's

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 3>just he's not. He's not fooling anybody with what is happening.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Then I don't know how he improves it. So he's

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>a drop for me literally everywhere that I can except

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>for that fifteen team Tellwars league where there's really nothing.

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>So I'm just like, I guess I'll just keep running

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 3>him out there. But yeah, so those are my those

0:33:53.600 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 3>are my two. That's my win and my loss. I

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 3>think from the pitching side.

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>We did we did an episode a couple of weeks

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>ago with Mayor and myself did like kind of takeing

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the l's on some guys early on, and for.

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Me, like Devin Williams was a big one. I did.

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I had a bold prediction before the year, and if

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it's supposed to be bold, right, it wasn't supposed to

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>be an obvious thing. Like you know, there's risk that

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 1>bold predictions don't play out, that's the nature of them.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>But one of my bold predictions was that he Devin Williams,

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 1>would earn multiple cy Young votes this year down ballot,

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>but he would be you know, get votes that will.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Not be happening, certainly.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 1>And then the other l I took was Adley Rushman,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>where I just kind of like you where it's like

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>like you were just describing with al Contra, Like I

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>just can't believe how bad he looks like it like

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>doesn't And I know some of the expected stats for

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Adli are better than the counting stats, but like, I

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>mean even just yesterday, and I know he was coming

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 1>back from getting hit in the face of the ball.

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't say this callously or like to make

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>a joker, like he looked concussed.

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Like he looked like like if.

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 1>A concussed player was trying to swing against major league pitching.

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's his first three at bats, he had

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>like nine swings and make contact once and it was

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a pop up like it was just strikeout.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 2>It just looked really bad.

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.919
<v Speaker 1>So those those were my l so I can relate

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.919
<v Speaker 1>to kind of hoping people forget about those eventually.

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, like have short memories everyone. We talked about this

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 3>just briefly. But one another thing I learned, or at

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 3>least had reinforces, like you always want a rookie in

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 3>their second stint in the Majors. Matt Shaw has come

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 3>back up, and I think I'll talk about him in

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 3>the next segment. But the first one sometimes gets ugly.

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 3>The second one, you know, he tends to go way

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 3>better because, like you said, they go down, they prove

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 3>there's nothing else to do, and then they come back up.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 3>But since they'd already seen it, it's like there's a

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a level of relaxation, level of adjustment

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that they are much more comfortable with. And you know,

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's a learning curve, right, There's a learning

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.399
<v Speaker 3>curve when you join any new company, and I think

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 3>we just have to take that in consideration with uh,

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 3>with rookies for sure. So that's that's that lesson. The

0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 3>next one is really kind of sort of a last weekend,

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 3>I went to a winery in Wisconsin because I'm right

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 3>on the border. And I walked in and it was

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.120
<v Speaker 3>a kind of a birthday gathering for someone. So there

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 3>are people that I didn't know. And one of the

0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 3>people was wearing a Tiger's jersey in Wisconsin at a winery,

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, what in the hell is that?

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 3>And all I could see was the last number was five,

0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 3>and so I'm like, okay, maybe a baseball fan. So

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm like cool, I'm like, are you wearing a Verlander jersey?

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.280
<v Speaker 3>And she was like no, She's like it's a Brandon

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 3>in jersey. And I'm like, you are kidding. I'm like okay,

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 3>And so like that was my It's important to be

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 3>open to all fandoms, and people get there there they

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 3>fall in love with certain players for certain reasons. This

0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 3>is also my opportunity to tell everyone that Justin Ferlander

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 3>is washed and you don't have to try to keep

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 3>him on your teams. That's that's how I brought that

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>back around.

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, Kelly, Yeah, what is your

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:02.439
<v Speaker 1>most obscure jersey and or shersey that you own?

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:05.399
<v Speaker 3>You want to go with ever owned, because that's way

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:09.160
<v Speaker 3>easier like, sure, okay, Yeah, Like I was, I owned

0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:14.120
<v Speaker 3>a Nick Punto jersey because for the Twins, I loved him.

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, nice, I mean, I have no idea.

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I just thought he was, like he was just my

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 3>favorite player for a little while. So I owned a

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Punto shirt. Yeah, And I was like, and I got

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 3>the same look that I probably gave this person with

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the Industrants.

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got a Ramon Hernandez Orioles suersey.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Uh, from a number of years ago.

0:37:36.480 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I certainly I can't fit in it anymore, but I

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>still own it, I think.

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>And then I have for jersey.

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, my college roommate just thought it would

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:51.280
<v Speaker 1>be funny to own an Oakland Athletics Jack Cust jersey,

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and so we had that hanging in our college dorm.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>And then when we moved out, he was like, I

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 1>don't really want this anywhere?

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Do you want it?

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like sure, So I just have this Cust

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:00.919
<v Speaker 1>jersey in my house.

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I remember another one with Cubs. I was watching the

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Cubs game with my wife and and we were like,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 3>if Jeremy Burnitz gets a hit here, I will buy

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>his jersey. And he like walked off Homer and and

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.280
<v Speaker 3>she looks at me and she's like, we'll order it.

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 2>Like you have to, you can't back out.

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 3>And then the te fell off. So then she had

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 3>her Bernie Zu, which we laughed at forever. So then

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:29.320
<v Speaker 3>and the next two speaking of the Cubs, always remember

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 3>whoever the Cub's closer is, they are only currently that closer.

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Go pick them up and then they will start blowing saves.

0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 3>And then the Cup the Cubs have a d D

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.440
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to trying to figure out a bullpen.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 3>If Valencia is it, I would love that, But in

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.040
<v Speaker 3>my entire Cubs fandom, I can remember the amount of

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 3>times we had a closer that I was like, that's

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 3>our closer, So just be aware of that for fantasy.

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 3>And then the last one is I would like to

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:59.879
<v Speaker 3>publicly apologize to Pete crow Armstrong. I literally in two

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 3>different leagues. I was like, I can't believe that I'm

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna get stuck with him. Like I was just like, fine,

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll just take Pete kor Armstrong in the league I'm

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 3>in with my dad. He drafted him. I made fun

0:39:09.760 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 3>of him because I was like, I'm like, you can't

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.000
<v Speaker 3>draft him there like, I'm like, that is like fourteen

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.879
<v Speaker 3>rounds too early, you know, blah blah blah. And I've

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.200
<v Speaker 3>gotten to talk to my dad a lot more this

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 3>season because I feel like he wants to call me,

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 3>like every time he does anything good. And he's got

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 3>fifteen homers and fifteen steels, so it's a fair amount.

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 3>But so that's those are the lessons I've learned so far.

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I told there this recently because I had I had

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 1>pee Kor Armstrong as a cell high. Not that I

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to be terrible, but just like, you know,

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>get a stud if you can. And in one of

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>my leagues, it's a two catcher roto league, and there's

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:50.200
<v Speaker 1>there's some keeper elements at play, and cal Raley is

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a very very good keeper value.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Even aside from the fact that he's.

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>A great catcher to have in a two catcher league,

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he's also a good keeper value. And he got traded

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>for PCA earlier this year, and the trade almost got

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>vetoed because everybody was like, this is insane to give

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>up cal Raleigh for only this, And now it almost

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>looks like they're I mean, they're both even good to

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>vary degrees but like it almost looks other reverse, like

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>holy cow, you got p K. Armstrong for just a catcher,

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean it, it's funny how quickly that can be,

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of painted in a different way, in

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a different.

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Light just a month later.

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:29.759
<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, I mean, and that's another it's a good

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.120
<v Speaker 3>story to kind of remember why you don't veto trades

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 3>unless they're so I mean, they have to be sol

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:37.399
<v Speaker 3>lopsided and like in order. But if it's like if

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 3>I value this guy like this, like who are you

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 3>to tell me not to? Again with the exceptions, but

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 3>I also wanted to just say.

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 1>The funny thing is the manager that did that quickly

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>is really really incompetent. He's new to our league, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I actually can't even describe to you how bad

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<v Speaker 1>his draft was.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it mayir?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was like I think he took Christian Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's so there's five keepers for each team, so

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<v Speaker 1>fifty players are off the board. But if you were

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<v Speaker 1>drafting the first two rounds, you can't be kept, so

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<v Speaker 1>there are studs available. Plus you know you can only

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<v Speaker 1>keep five guys, so like a good I had to

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<v Speaker 1>throw back like Dever's and you know, Bregman and like

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that, Like there were players available plus those

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<v Speaker 1>first two round studs, and he took rookie Sasaki with

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<v Speaker 1>the first overall pick, ahead of like Mookie Bets and

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of other people. He took Christian Campbell

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<v Speaker 1>in the third round again ahead of like all these

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<v Speaker 1>great like very good players still on the board, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was like the entire draft, like like I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy seems very incompetent at this And so then

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<v Speaker 1>he was also making the trade and we were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's clearly somebody's taking advantage because he's not what

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing. But this one worked out for now he

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<v Speaker 1>now as Speaker Armstrong as a great keeper moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was also just gonna say, I want in

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<v Speaker 3>the comments people to drop their most obscure ersey jersey

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<v Speaker 3>and the story about why you own it would be

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<v Speaker 3>even better. But I love that conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, maybe we can. I don't want to promise this,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll ask you if we can hook up the

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<v Speaker 1>most obscure one we find with something like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>premium subscription or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No promises, do it just for fun?

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<v Speaker 1>And for the conversation, but we'll ask to see if

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<v Speaker 1>we can get that approved as well too, So give

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<v Speaker 1>us your best most obscure jerseys and or cherseys. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and wrap up rounding the bases there. We

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<v Speaker 1>will be around for Part two and Part three, where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about some buys and cells and

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<v Speaker 1>waiver guys. And then of course Part three will be

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<v Speaker 1>the the streaming pictures and our two start picture competition

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<v Speaker 1>for Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Ryan Warley for part one. Thanks for tuning in,

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