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Speaker 1: You had. The hardest thing, of course, was you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw an opportunity there to continue to

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Speaker 3: Spencer Araghetti joining us in the rotation for Houston. Spencer,

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Speaker 3: great to have you on.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: How's camp going for you now that you feel like, hey,

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Speaker 3: I've been here, I experienced last year and you can

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Man, camp's going great. I mean, like you you

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Speaker 5: and I feel like I've done a really good job

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Speaker 5: are for a reason, These bullpens are for a reason,

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Speaker 5: and I'm just I'm really getting my work in right now.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, I just got shocked by my microphone. As I apologize.

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Speaker 4: When you got what's uh that was me?

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Speaker 3: I just was trying to tell your your next question.

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Speaker 3: So I shocked you.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, but I was gonna had the question lined up,

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 6: So then when you get there, your career didn't get

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Speaker 6: off to a blazing start. I mean, you did okay,

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Speaker 5: Man, I mean it's uh, it's obviously a very It's

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Speaker 5: don't typically see that that that growing pain stage that

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Speaker 7: I'm trying to prove that I belong.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to prove my stuff's good enough to not

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Speaker 7: To me getting better.

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Speaker 5: In a way, it was kind of me beating myself

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I got it.

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Speaker 8: Can Did they talk to you about the right things

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Speaker 8: World Series like they always have? Did they say the

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Speaker 5: I mean the group of support that we've got from

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Speaker 7: You threw a bullpen today, I did, yeah, yeah, right

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Speaker 6: I mean, we ask a lot of I've been we've

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Speaker 5: I'm looking at one pitch on track man right now,

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Speaker 5: And the things that aren't asking for it. I've learned

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Speaker 6: Oh come on, ah, you got a splinker?

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Speaker 4: You got what's the new change up thing?

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Speaker 4: Everyone kick change kicha.

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Speaker 7: I like that one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, knuckleball. Maybe you're trying to get the spin down

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Speaker 7: On I don't know. I mean I hear there's like

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Speaker 7: Too many guys watch this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Oh so you don't want to get so the first

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Speaker 7: I'm just gonna I'm gonna rip something that nobody's ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Oh ye, hopefully I like it.

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Speaker 7: Hopefully nobody's ever seen it.

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Speaker 7: Time. Yeah, I haven't thrown it yet.

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Speaker 4: Have you thrown it to any of your own teammates?

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Speaker 7: I haven't thrown it to them.

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Speaker 6: So if we got like if we got Jeremy Payne here,

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Speaker 7: Got no clue. Yeah they got no clue.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, but yeah, I think that's what the track

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Speaker 4: Are you a shape guy? Spin guy?

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Speaker 5: I mean I am a shape guy technically, Like my

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Speaker 8: Is there a guy on your team? Is there a

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Speaker 8: I see haters fastball. You go in and you look

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Speaker 5: I look at the way Hunter Brown started ripping two

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Speaker 5: seams at everybody last year, and I mean, like analytics

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Speaker 5: more than that. His four seems like the same shape

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Speaker 5: complete opposite. People swing over it. They hit it on

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Speaker 7: Yeah, don't hit it to left. Hit it the center, because.

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Speaker 6: But so you missed when when well min of made Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think Jake's doing it trying.

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Speaker 7: He's Superman. He can do it whatever he wants.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So two more questions for that.

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Speaker 6: You you mentioned Hunter Brown, Yeah, what's you gonna do

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Speaker 7: If you were a kid from Detroit growing up, then

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Speaker 4: Like why not Colorago?

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Speaker 4: Why not? Ain't a ball? Sanchez?

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Speaker 7: Rick Porcello, no comment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I can't blame him. I don't think

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Speaker 5: mean yeah, like the up down like all that stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Sorry, before we let you go, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: we can get a shot. We kind of see him

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Speaker 6: right here. Best shoes of the spring so far. You're nice,

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Speaker 6: Jordan Eleven's nice. I'm just saying the best shoes of

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Speaker 6: the spring right here on Spencer. So, man, I don't

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Speaker 4: They're the best.

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Speaker 5: I am a bit of a sneaker guy. You can

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Speaker 5: I like the Jordan ones putting the spikes on the

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Speaker 5: Snake ones not too I'm gonna break those out this year.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah, they look sick.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so you're obviously your name.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a contractor, yeah, because I was always wondered

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Speaker 4: And then you send them.

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Speaker 5: You yeah, you just you get the spikes or you

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Speaker 5: get the shoes and you send them off. The guy

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Speaker 5: that does it for me is custom Kicks on Instagram.

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Speaker 5: They do a great job. He does Marcelo Zuna's. He's

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Speaker 5: I mean, this guy does crazy work. It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Nice. Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 6: There you go, Dana Brown Getty Rock and Style today.

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Speaker 3: And he's a he's a shoe free agent. So now

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Speaker 3: the world knows. And you said, guys, watch get a

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Speaker 3: you want guys that that obviously are into it. So Spencer,

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Speaker 3: this was awesome man. You super well spoken. We'll have

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Speaker 3: to get you back on during the season. But have

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Speaker 3: a great rest of camp. Okay, I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me today. We've got Astros

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Speaker 3: general manager Dana Brown with us right now on foul Territory. Dana,

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Speaker 3: great to.

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Speaker 1: Have you on.

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Speaker 3: You had a lot of work to do this offseason.

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Speaker 3: Do you feel like you can take a breath now

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Speaker 2: Nah, We're still grinding. You know, we did have a

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Speaker 2: busy offseason. You know, ultimately we made a lot of

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Speaker 4: What was the hardest thing, Yeah, the hardest thing.

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Speaker 8: And was any of that precipitated? Was that preluded by

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Speaker 2: So, you know, part of baseball operations what we do

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Speaker 2: And so these conversations start, you know, eighteen months out,

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Speaker 1: But uh, this isn't something.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you want to be competitive now? Do

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Speaker 2: Should we you know, just let this guy play out

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Speaker 1: And you're always having those conversations.

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Speaker 8: Dani, you are. I really appreciate you coming on here talking.

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Speaker 8: You've always been a very open GM and you know,

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Speaker 8: Did you feel like that was going to be the case?

444
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,560
Speaker 8: And then things changed as you went longer and longer

445
00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,960
Speaker 8: in the negotiations.

446
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, you know you can't fall them in for optimism, right,

447
00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,560
Speaker 2: and so you want to be locked into the future.

448
00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,920
Speaker 2: And you know, I felt like, look, this could be

449
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,399
Speaker 2: a big part of the future. And you know, and

450
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,080
Speaker 2: I know when I was in Atlanta, we were trying

451
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,439
Speaker 2: to lock guys up like early on in their career,

452
00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,280
Speaker 2: and so, you know, I was very optimistic that, look,

453
00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 2: we could probably get this Tucker thing done. And you know,

454
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,200
Speaker 2: sometimes these things build on you, and you know, guys

455
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,440
Speaker 2: continue to play well and it gets a little bit

456
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,320
Speaker 2: more difficult. And so, you know, I'm always an optimistic guy.

457
00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,080
Speaker 2: It's just part of who I am. By nature. I'm energy,

458
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 2: you know, I have optimism, and so I'm always looking

459
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,439
Speaker 2: for the good. I think that's a big part of

460
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,480
Speaker 2: having some success. You know, you have to have a

461
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 2: vision for what you want to do, and so you know, look,

462
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760
Speaker 2: I was really optimistic about it, and you know, it

463
00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,959
Speaker 2: just didn't work out. And uh, it wasn't like, uh,

464
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,159
Speaker 2: you know, we weren't trying.

465
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 6: Speaking of trying, it was a trade that was tried

466
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,600
Speaker 6: with Nolan ar. I don't know how much you can

467
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,200
Speaker 6: say about this, but were you surprised because we asked

468
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 6: We asked your manager and he's like, well, you know,

469
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,600
Speaker 6: I don't know because I'm not in it, but you're

470
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,240
Speaker 6: kind of in that.

471
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

472
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, we don't really get into, you know,

473
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 2: our conversations, whether it's free agents or trades, because.

474
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on.

475
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,920
Speaker 2: But you know, if I'll put it to you this way,

476
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 2: if we have a need at a certain position, we're gonna,

477
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: you know, do our due diligence and we're gonna ask

478
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 2: about players and we're going to try to acquire certain players.

479
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't work out. And

480
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 2: so look, you know, Aaron Ot it was an interesting player.

481
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: He had a good career. He's probably on pace to

482
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 2: become maybe a potential Hall of Famer, and so he's

483
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: an interesting guy. And so we we looked at multiple

484
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 2: players that we thought would be a fit, and you know,

485
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 2: sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't make sense.

486
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 4: How about Jose left field? Leftfield? Jose?

487
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I mean I don't know if you saw

488
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 2: that first play. Yeah, it's pretty pretty special. You know,

489
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: that play against the wall was really nice. And he's look,

490
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 2: I don't think we're committing to it yet. I think

491
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 2: the energy is there.

492
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 4: He gave infield gloves, so he's kind of committed to

493
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 4: it already.

494
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have to place some infield. Like look,

495
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 1: at some point, you're gonna have to go back to second.

496
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: You know, it's the versatility thing where you know, if

497
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 2: we want to have certain bats in the lineup, we

498
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: could put out two v back at second. So I

499
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 2: don't think that we're fully committed to it. I think

500
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 2: that we are excited about it. We we like the

501
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 2: path that is taking the trajectory of it is good. Uh,

502
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 2: He's taken well to it. He's actually running balls down

503
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: in the gap. Sometimes you forget how fast he is

504
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: until you know he went to the outfields like man,

505
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: he's got pretty good foot speed.

506
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: And so I think it's.

507
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 2: Working out well and we're going to continue to see

508
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 2: what it looks like during spring training. But you know,

509
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 2: is there an opportunity that he could play some left field?

510
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely days her left fielder.

511
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 2: I mean that's going to be Joe's decision. But look,

512
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: I give him some ideas, but I don't have but

513
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 2: you know, ultimately he's going to make that decision. I

514
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,120
Speaker 2: think the path of it is is it's good right now.

515
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: I think the trajectory is good. I think it's moving

516
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: in the right direction and it's looking like it could happen.

517
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: But you know, we still have a lot of time left.

518
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 3: Dana, You've been a great evaluator of talent for a

519
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 3: while in this game. I mean, you can go back

520
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: to some of the decisions that you helped the Braids make.

521
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: They were brilliant. So I wanted to get your take

522
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 3: right now on the roster. You're here, you're in spring training,

523
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: you're actually able to look at the guys, what is

524
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 3: something that you feel really good about with the team,

525
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: and then what is something where you're a little worried

526
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 3: about it. You're like, I don't know how this is

527
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 3: going to play out. I hope it plays out well,

528
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 3: but this could be a weak spot for the team.

529
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

530
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: Look, I mean the most exciting thing for me right

531
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: now is to watch Cam Smith and watch him develop

532
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 2: and to see him really played third base. I don't

533
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: know if you guys know it, but I actually went

534
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 2: out and saw some players for the draft. I try

535
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: to see our first round pick. I end up seeing

536
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: him last year during the ACC tournament. You know, we

537
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: liked him, didn't know if he was going to be

538
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: able to play third Looking like he's developing at third base,

539
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: so he's really creating a lot of conversation and he's

540
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: playing well right now. And so we took Walter Yannick

541
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: the catcher, and so you know, we feel good about Yanick.

542
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: But you know, he may be you know, eighteen twenty

543
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: months away or something something somewhere in there. But you know,

544
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 2: we were picking in the back part of the draft. Ye,

545
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: that's exactly that's where you want to pick you want

546
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 2: to pick at the back part, and so I end

547
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: up seeing him, you know, and then when the trade

548
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: talks came up, I was like, Yeah, we got to

549
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: have this guy. He's playing very well, so I'm excited

550
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 2: about that. You know, we have some openings, you know,

551
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 2: in our bullpen, and that's where we have to make,

552
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: you know, fill some holes. So that would be a

553
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: big part of my focus is who do we have,

554
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 2: you know, for that boat for those bullpen spots where

555
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 2: he's gonna be innings five through seven if your starter

556
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: runs into a little bit of trouble.

557
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: And that's where we're focused right now. You know.

558
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: We feel really good about the back end with the

559
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 2: bray you you know and Hater, but we do have

560
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: some spots that we have to nail down in the middle.

561
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: Dana, just to double down on Cam and how good

562
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: he's looked, you know, if that continues when he starts

563
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 3: off the year, say at whatever level in the minors

564
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: and he's just raking when you bring him up. Is

565
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: the plan to have him as a third baseman or

566
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 3: could there be some outfield time for him as well?

567
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're working through that right now.

568
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: You know, he's getting some refs at third base, which

569
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: is probably his main position for right now, but we're

570
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: not opposed to seeing what it looks like in right field.

571
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 2: I think that could be a potential possibility. But we're

572
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 2: not leaving any stone unturned. Look, if the bat's ready,

573
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 2: you know, we'd love to have offense, and you know,

574
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 2: we'll move them along as quickly as we could. And

575
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: we're not afraid to go with young players. I mean,

576
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 2: that's just you know, part of what we're going to

577
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: do here. And so you know, we're excited about him.

578
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 2: He's bringing a lot of energy there. I love the makeup,

579
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: the kids pretty special. He's got a nice combination of

580
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: confidence and humility and and so he's developed nicely.

581
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 4: That's great, that's great.

582
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 6: I mean, that's well, that's why you mentioned Tucker. You

583
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 6: had to trade Tucker to get a player of Camps.

584
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 6: It was an esky and uh I blanked them the third.

585
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: And perettis Yeah.

586
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: And then it's like you're you're you're you're focusing on

587
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: you know, the present because you want to maintain, you

588
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: want to be really good. And then you're focusing also

589
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: in the future because you get a guy like Cam

590
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: Smith that look that you guess bring together.

591
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Speaker 6: The problem is you guys made so many trades with

592
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 6: the Cubs. I got I lost. So what about what

593
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 6: about Presley? I mean, yeah, and I know he's making

594
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 6: some money, but you know, for what he has done

595
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 6: for the Astros, the amount of money he was making

596
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 6: wasn't like exorbitant.

597
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 4: We're like, wow, we just really can't afford this guy.

598
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 6: So was that a money move because everyone's like, oh,

599
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 6: it's just a money dumb but also you kind of

600
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 6: did him a solid right because he wants to close

601
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 6: and with Hater, he's not going to close. So it

602
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 6: was there's more than just went into it than just hey,

603
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 6: this is just a money Yeah.

604
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 2: There's a lot of decisions that go in the moves

605
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: that we make off quite often, and so you know,

606
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 2: Presley was, you know, a guy that had a lot

607
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: of success here as a closer. He's been outstanding and

608
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: so he you know, made it very clear like look,

609
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: I still love closing.

610
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: I would love to close.

611
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 2: And so you know, thinking like we're thinking present and future.

612
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: You know, we saw an opportunity to get a future

613
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: starter in a Wan Beayo, and so we made that

614
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: trade for Presley had nothing to do with money, dumb.

615
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: You know, Pretce's really good.

616
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: He was he was going to pitch for us, you know,

617
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: toward the back end, eighth inning, seventh inning, whatever, depending

618
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: on who, what lineup was coming up, and that type

619
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: of thing. But altimate, he was a true professional about it.

620
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: You know, he took the back seat to hater and said, look,

621
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: I understand why we did it. He still wanted to

622
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: close though at the same time, and I understand that

623
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: because he had so much success, But ultimately he did

624
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: he was a true professional. So he took the you know,

625
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 2: the setup role, you know, and so he still wanted

626
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: to close, and you know, we found an opportunity to

627
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: get him a closing job, and so we wish nothing

628
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: but the best.

629
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Speaker 1: And he's been a true pro the whole way.

630
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 8: Let's go to Esak. How long have you been tracking him?

631
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 8: How long have you and how close did you get

632
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 8: to trading for him? Because I think I saw rumors

633
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 8: that you're possibly close last year because you know, he's

634
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 8: a guy that everyone thinks fits with you guys.

635
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had conversations last year the trade deadline.

636
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: We were just talking about acquiring offense and his name

637
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: came up, and so we had our eyes on him.

638
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: We knew that he pulls a lot of balls for

639
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: home runs, and so we were like, look, this guy's

640
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: bats probably gonna play and dyking Park down back then

641
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: it was minute May, but we felt good about him

642
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: and our ballpark, and so he was like a big

643
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: target for us. And the fact that things lined up

644
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 2: with the Cubs, you know, they were very interested, you know,

645
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: and Tucker. We had interest in Perettes west Nesky, you know,

646
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: and camp Smith, and it kind of took a little bit,

647
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: took a little while to come together, but it was

648
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 2: like really a good trade, I feel for both sides.

649
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna get, you know, a guy that

650
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 2: could potentially be an All Star again, a guy that

651
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, potentially could be in the top five votes

652
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: and MVP and top five and MVP and and and

653
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: then also you know, potentially we're gonna get Perettis, like,

654
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: you know, he's been an All Star, camp Smith's got

655
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: a chance to be a really good player down the stretch.

656
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: And then wes Nesky's a good you know, a good starter.

657
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be a good trade for

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Speaker 2: both sides.

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Speaker 6: Okay, before we let you go, this last thing. We

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Speaker 6: always have a running joke on the show that every

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Speaker 6: GM wears a quarter is it? So congratulations, you're the

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Speaker 6: first GYM that hasn't come on here on a team

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Speaker 6: quarter ZIP that has the astros Right here, you're dressed loafers.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is the best dressed GM we've seen

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Speaker 6: in our in our two plus years of doing this show.

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Speaker 4: I mean it was as Peter malar so.

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Speaker 1: So if you would have caught me yesterday, I would

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Speaker 1: have had the logo.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, can we talk about we can't get

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Speaker 6: an astros logo on it?

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Speaker 4: Sure, it's the time, Jean, what's going on here? Gee?

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Speaker 1: The time?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, GC if your guy Geene has the astros Quarterszip

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Speaker 6: sitting next Toll So it's amazing. Dana came on and

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Speaker 6: by the way, got you your jersey guy, right jersey?

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Speaker 4: There you go?

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Speaker 1: What town? I grew up in New Bruswick, right by

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Speaker 1: Rutgers University.

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Speaker 3: Uh, biggest Rutgers fan right here watching them get blown

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Speaker 3: out by thirty last night, every minute of it with you, man.

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Speaker 3: I grew up twenty minutes away, so I'm with you,

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Speaker 3: and I echo that, I echo that best dressed GM,

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Speaker 3: no quarters in a little, a little nice you know,

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Speaker 3: drive bit I like it. Dana, this was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the time.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you all right.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. You guys have me on