Speaker 1: Roland.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I
Speaker 2: am your host, Will Compton, my co host today filling
Speaker 2: in for the boy Taylor.
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler giving.
Speaker 2: Up for the boy, Mike Chandler, let's go UFC Superstar.
Speaker 4: I don't know about that UFC Superstar. I'll take it.
Speaker 4: Recurring guests on the Bus, I'm proud of.
Speaker 5: You're a friend of the bus, friend of the bus,
Speaker 5: You're family of the bus, Family of the bus.
Speaker 4: For sure.
Speaker 2: We have a great episode coming today. We jelly Roll
Speaker 2: is going to be crashing the pot at some point.
Speaker 2: We're obviously going to be going over all of the
Speaker 2: playoff stuff, the football, the this, the that, the Bisacia.
Speaker 2: I think later on alec Engele might zoom in with
Speaker 2: myself and we're gonna talk about, you know, stuff with
Speaker 2: the Raiders, his open letter to Raider Nation and all
Speaker 2: that fun stuff. But before we get into the episode,
Speaker 2: we have to shout out the greatest partner on earth
Speaker 2: to Bust with the Boys, and that is the Chevy Silverado.
Speaker 2: Give it up for the Chevy Silverado Boys. Twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one was a big year for Chevy truck, so big
Speaker 2: that Silverado has now made new headlines. And we're not
Speaker 2: just talking about the Silverado and the Lowman Award or
Speaker 2: Coach Prime and all the goodness that Dion brings to
Speaker 2: life in football.
Speaker 3: We're talking about product news.
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Speaker 3: In reserve your.
Speaker 2: Silverado EVY today, I mean that was close to flawless.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's an almost humble recovery right there.
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Hey, we don't we don't count, we don't worry about
Speaker 4: the numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a big numbers guy, but the facts
Speaker 2: are out there.
Speaker 3: What's up, bro, what's new? What do we got?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 5: I'm well, I just been following the Will Compton ups
Speaker 5: and downs and saga and just freaking getting after it.
Speaker 5: And then you know, for me, just uh training, getting
Speaker 5: back after it fully recovered now and spending some time
Speaker 5: with the family.
Speaker 2: I will say, while while we're on audio and this
Speaker 2: is on record, you did have a super nice tweet
Speaker 2: about the boy I did.
Speaker 4: I did you know? You can't get rid of them? Man? Nobody, nobody,
Speaker 4: you know you can't get rid of them even if
Speaker 4: you try. You don't want to.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, I read that and I was just
Speaker 2: I don't know, I appreciated it.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: Listen, you know, in in the world of sports, you know,
Speaker 5: you're you're around a bunch of different people, you know,
Speaker 5: And of course I'm not just saying this because you're
Speaker 5: right here. There's there's really really good ones, the ones
Speaker 5: who the ones who train, train, and do things right.
Speaker 4: And then there's a really really the full package.
Speaker 5: The dude, the boy who's got it, got it all,
Speaker 5: gets after it, just like you always talk about the
Speaker 5: lunch pail. That's me and you man like it's there's
Speaker 5: a special connection with certain people that have just pulled
Speaker 5: themselves up by their bootstraps.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: And people make fun of me because I say that
Speaker 5: all the time, but it's it's true. Just uh, your
Speaker 5: big bootstraps, big bootstrap guy, you know. I mean, but
Speaker 5: you know, you show up no matter what team was
Speaker 5: gonna call you, you were gonna show up with your work
Speaker 5: boots on, put your best foot forward. And that deserves
Speaker 5: to be rewarded for as long as it possibly can.
Speaker 1: And here we are.
Speaker 4: You're nine, dude, you're.
Speaker 5: Nine, baby. I don't know, man, I think you got
Speaker 5: to give us one more years.
Speaker 1: You never know, you never know. I haven't signed the
Speaker 1: papers yet.
Speaker 2: There's been some calls here and there, you know, just
Speaker 2: kind of just some rumor circulating that I might be
Speaker 2: back out there asap.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just teasing everybody. But uh, as I do.
Speaker 2: Say, before we get into it, we're I mentioned Playoff Willie.
Speaker 2: But we sold these Playoff WILLI shirts I'm wearing on
Speaker 2: the day I know the boy's loss. It's crazy because
Speaker 2: these things would have done even bigger numbers had the
Speaker 2: Raiders won in advance. Because Divine Diablo, the inside backer
Speaker 2: he went out with a concussion, did not return that game,
Speaker 2: the Boy would have been back in action. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I'm wearing this playoff wheel shirt because we sold about
Speaker 2: five hundred of these shirts.
Speaker 3: Boys, let's give it up.
Speaker 2: Big shots to Raider Nation, everybody who who bought these teas,
Speaker 2: because one hundred percent of the net proceeds is going
Speaker 2: to the DC for Kids Foundation. They're big in uh
Speaker 2: you know, the Children's hospital. They have one of the
Speaker 2: biggest networks out in the California area, the highest quality
Speaker 2: of treatment from pre birth all the way to young adulthood.
Speaker 2: But uh, I wanted to The reason I wanted to
Speaker 2: give to Derek's charity is because when I had got there,
Speaker 2: it was like the second day or maybe my first
Speaker 2: day there, and practice and everything was over all the
Speaker 2: meetings were over, and I wasn't wanting to. I was
Speaker 2: with the player personnel guys about hey, where can I
Speaker 2: rent a car and this and that, and cars were
Speaker 2: going to like two fifty a week, two hundred fifty
Speaker 2: dollars a week, and I didn't want to spend the
Speaker 2: two fifty a week while I was there, So I
Speaker 2: hit up Derek and I was like.
Speaker 4: Hey man. You know, I put the text message out.
Speaker 2: On Twitter, but I was like, hey man, I'm a
Speaker 2: cheap bastard at heart, like I want to pay this money.
Speaker 2: Do you have an extra vehicle? And he was like, oh, bro, absolutely,
Speaker 2: where are you at? And I was like, I'm at
Speaker 2: the facility. He's like, my wife and I will be
Speaker 2: there in ten minutes. And he just let me get
Speaker 2: the truck, never asked me questions about it. We were
Speaker 2: on the side of the road a couple of times
Speaker 2: because that passenger doors got a little little shit to it.
Speaker 1: It is the F word.
Speaker 4: It is an F word. It's not a Chevy.
Speaker 2: But uh uh no, man, he was he was there, bro,
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, within ten minutes of me texting him,
Speaker 2: him and his wife's pulling up and he's just an
Speaker 2: incredible human being. So doing all this ridiculous playoff Willie
Speaker 2: stuff and making these these funny shirts, I wanted to
Speaker 2: give to somebody like Derek.
Speaker 4: But it's awesome, man.
Speaker 2: Anyway, let's jump into it, dude, the Playoff Weekend AB spoof,
Speaker 2: we get to do some more house cleaning. Oh gosh,
Speaker 2: since I'm on Playoff, Willie some more house cleaning.
Speaker 3: Did you happen to see the AB interview spoof?
Speaker 4: I didn't see the interviews spoof.
Speaker 1: So Antonio Brown went on the Full Sin podcast a.
Speaker 2: Few couple days after a few days after he got
Speaker 2: cut from the Buccaneers.
Speaker 4: He sat down with this podcast.
Speaker 2: Shout out the boys, Uh, Bob Monerie Minory, sorry Bob,
Speaker 2: no disrespect Bob the voice Yeah, and then shout out
Speaker 2: the Nelk Boys, Yeah, the voice of Buffalo wil Wings.
Speaker 2: Shout out the Milk Boys too. But he went on
Speaker 2: their podcast. Antonio Brown did, and it was just I mean,
Speaker 2: if you watched the podcast and you see some of
Speaker 2: the clips, you're like, this is one of the most
Speaker 2: wild interviews you've seen, especially with somebody like AB. So
Speaker 2: we recreated it and did a little spoof where JP
Speaker 2: was Salim Jack was im Bro, somebody was Bob Jack
Speaker 2: was Kyle Alex was Bob Blast.
Speaker 5: He didn't want to show up. I did just kidding.
Speaker 5: I did with the I did see some of this.
Speaker 5: I did see some of it. I didn't see the
Speaker 5: whole thing, but we had.
Speaker 2: Such a funny time, dude, all the I think Bob.
Speaker 2: Bob commented to in the comments saying he wanted us
Speaker 2: to redo the Mike Tyson one, so we might have
Speaker 2: to do a spoop. We might just become actors now, boys,
Speaker 2: we all need agents, we all need individual agents.
Speaker 3: We're gonna start doing spoofs.
Speaker 2: What was the who said every Friday, what's the new
Speaker 2: Friday films? A new segment? We might just have to
Speaker 2: bring Friday films to people every week. That's awesome, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Bob said, right there. Can you guys do the Tyson episode?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, dude, Yeah, I'd.
Speaker 2: Love to have Bob on Bob, if you're listening or
Speaker 2: you happen to watch this or the clip, we might
Speaker 2: just clip this thing up.
Speaker 1: We would love to have you on Busting with the Boys.
Speaker 2: I would be super interested in talking about what your
Speaker 2: headspace was like that entire interview with Ab because Bob
Speaker 2: was the one person who is trying to ask questions,
Speaker 2: would try and stay there, and then it's tough when
Speaker 2: the boys on your own pod are kind of already
Speaker 2: established on the other side of you.
Speaker 3: Like he's like, no, I'll be real, I'll be real.
Speaker 2: And he's like, all right, well, I'm gonna need you
Speaker 2: guys to help me try to get stuff out of
Speaker 2: eight B.
Speaker 1: I can't just do all of this on my own. Uh.
Speaker 5: But maybe Abe seemed like the kind of guy where
Speaker 5: he was gonna give you some good gems anyway.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was, he was.
Speaker 5: I did see a little bit of it when he
Speaker 5: was kind of giving life advice type of stuff, you know.
Speaker 2: So it was like jump a couple of gyms in
Speaker 2: there for jump a couple of gyms in there. Jamp
Speaker 2: is gonna let JP livez by them. He's pro ab.
Speaker 2: What else do we have for house cleaning items? Yeah,
Speaker 2: So this Saturday we will be at Acme feeding seed,
Speaker 2: partying our asses off for the boys in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: The boys are fucking one seed.
Speaker 2: This moment of life January twenty second, Ducetus returns to
Speaker 2: the football field.
Speaker 3: King Henry is back with the fucking boys.
Speaker 4: Baby, let's do that's the energy too, Let's go, let's go.
Speaker 2: But we will be at Acme feed and seeds. What
Speaker 2: time do we even want to go?
Speaker 1: One?
Speaker 8: One thirty? They were actually waiting for us to tell them.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking eleven am.
Speaker 1: Eleven am.
Speaker 8: Watch parties on the actual.
Speaker 3: Right, they're blocking it off.
Speaker 2: They're doing a lot of watch parties, similar to when
Speaker 2: the president in the playoffs back in when was that
Speaker 2: seventeen or eighteen? But massive broadways gonna be jam packed.
Speaker 2: Everybody be responsible down there, but make your way to
Speaker 2: Acme Feed and Seed. I do think we need to
Speaker 2: get in there early, partially because I can be there
Speaker 2: earlier because I'm the boy I'm trying to finagle. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to Partially, I gotta be somewhere else. Yeah,
Speaker 2: eleven o'clock, Acme Feed and Seed. You gotta start the pregame, dude,
Speaker 2: you gotta start the energy early. Everybody, Everybody in Nashville
Speaker 2: and who's a Titans fan out there is gonna be
Speaker 2: wide awake like.
Speaker 1: It's Christmas morning. When Saturday hits.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the mimosas are gonna be pouring the bloody Mary's,
Speaker 2: the beer, the piggybacks. I know people are gonna be
Speaker 2: slimming piggybacks by whistle pick out there. But everyone is
Speaker 2: gonna be in the spirit and we gotta be there early,
Speaker 2: we gotta be there live. And uh yeah, partially, I'll
Speaker 2: I'm trying to finagle some pregame sideline passes because a
Speaker 2: playoff Willie. I'm trying to make an appearance for the boys.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do some dafts. I'm trying to you know,
Speaker 2: hug some babies. Yes, I'll be on the Titans sideline. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because the Raiders lost. A truth be told, guys, if
Speaker 2: the Raiders win that game and I'm not back on
Speaker 2: the Raiders this week, I would have went to the
Speaker 2: game wearing black, rooting for the Raiders. Why Number one
Speaker 2: because I would get a Super Bowl ring if the
Speaker 2: Raiders win, like an actual one, not like Taylor's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'll get you a ring. Two will get you some
Speaker 2: custom ring made that's like the playoffs that you'll be
Speaker 2: like the Titans or whatever. I want both the boys.
Speaker 2: I want all the boys to succeed. The hard part
Speaker 2: is they would have been battling in the divisional round
Speaker 2: and the last several weeks I've been on the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Bro I'm a Raider, I've been a Raider, and the
Speaker 2: way that the organization has been. Trust me, I love
Speaker 2: you guys. I love Titans Nation, I love the team,
Speaker 2: I love the staff.
Speaker 1: Even though I can be debatable at times in the organization.
Speaker 2: But the way the Raiders have treated me over these
Speaker 2: last several weeks, and the way I feel about Coach Pisacia,
Speaker 2: and the way I wanted this team to win, not
Speaker 2: only for each other but also for Coach Pisacia, and
Speaker 2: again just the way that everyone's kind of really been
Speaker 2: there for the Boy these last several weeks. There's just
Speaker 2: absolutely no doubt in my mind that I wanted to
Speaker 2: see the Raiders succeed, not more than the Titans. I
Speaker 2: just want to see the Raiders succeed, which is tough
Speaker 2: because they would have to beat the Titans. But Raiders
Speaker 2: are out of it now. The Boy I'm back, of course,
Speaker 2: I'm back. I'm always rooting for the Titans, and I
Speaker 2: obviously want them to win this weekend, so I will
Speaker 2: be in the in the Titans Blue. But just just
Speaker 2: to clear all that stuff up, because there's been a
Speaker 2: lot of rumors, a lot of headlines.
Speaker 1: I've seen the papers.
Speaker 2: A lot of people wanted me to fail, a lot
Speaker 2: of people were mad that I wanted to cheer for
Speaker 2: the Raiders over the Titans. And I'm very specifically thinking
Speaker 2: of Taylor in my head because I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: really cared, and I think everybody understood and would understand.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was trying to get that play. I
Speaker 2: was trying to get that Super Bowl ring. But the
Speaker 2: boys fucking the Boys lost.
Speaker 1: Dude, I needed you.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not saying I would have changed the game.
Speaker 4: But you're not a big numbers guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a big numbers guy.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go that far to say, like I
Speaker 2: do change, uh what that game looks like on Saturday,
Speaker 2: but the energy would have been different.
Speaker 5: YEA, no, man, And there's no uh, there can't be
Speaker 5: any hate towards you for uh, you know, rolling with
Speaker 5: the Raiders.
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: That's your that's your and I think that's what a
Speaker 5: lot of people don't understand. I definitely don't understand it whatsoever.
Speaker 5: But I mean, I am in a I'm in an
Speaker 5: individual sport, but there's certain teams that I'm training with.
Speaker 5: Until I've trained with a you know, another team, I've
Speaker 5: been with four different teams.
Speaker 4: If you will.
Speaker 5: But you guys are organizations from the top to the bottom,
Speaker 5: everybody there, from the practice squad all the way into
Speaker 5: the locker room, all the way into guys on the field,
Speaker 5: and it's it's a realm that people don't quite understand.
Speaker 5: I definitely don't understand. I've tried to be in your
Speaker 5: ear and texting you like crazy the oh, give me
Speaker 5: some information, even like, Yo, dude, is this for real?
Speaker 4: Or you trolling everybody? Because I'm I'm about to put
Speaker 4: out a tweet right now, I'm about to put out
Speaker 4: a tweet. The tweet that he's alluding to.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, dude, did you really get picked back up?
Speaker 4: Or am I about to look like an idiot?
Speaker 5: But I got strolled by my own friend in private,
Speaker 5: you know, like I'm tweeting Adam Adam Schefter and all
Speaker 5: that tuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was fucking crazy, man. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and to that point, they're also like they're also cashing
Speaker 2: the checks.
Speaker 1: Dude, No, like you're you're rooting for the boys.
Speaker 2: And to be like, after I got done playing with
Speaker 2: the Raiders in eighteen and I played with the Titans, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: when I got done playing with the Raiders in nineteen,
Speaker 2: I played with the Titans in twenty Are We Good?
Speaker 2: And I played with the Titans in twenty The Raiders
Speaker 2: had offered me to come back like in June before
Speaker 2: I had the Titans offered in August late in training camp.
Speaker 2: And that's why I ended up taking the Titans deal
Speaker 2: because we're in Nashville. I don't have to uproot and
Speaker 2: move and all that stuff. But even this past time,
Speaker 2: when the Raiders had called in want of me on
Speaker 2: the team, Titans had called and wanted me to just
Speaker 2: do a workout. It's like every time they've both been
Speaker 2: right there to choose from, it's always seemed like the
Speaker 2: Raiders have wanted me, the organization has wanted me more,
Speaker 2: and things like that. So there's just like a there's
Speaker 2: just like a personal there's like that personal vibe that
Speaker 2: you just have like with them, because there's never been
Speaker 2: any like bs. There's never They've never given you the
Speaker 2: run around about anything. They've never They've always been like, hey,
Speaker 2: we want you to be here. We're not gonna take
Speaker 2: it to a workout, We're not gonna do this.
Speaker 4: We just want you to be here.
Speaker 2: So I just feel like I have ties to to
Speaker 2: like wanting them to do well. I feel like it's
Speaker 2: tough too because I love Titans, Titans Nation and all
Speaker 2: that stuff so much. And then obviously Bust with the
Speaker 2: Boys is here in Nashville, like we are Titans priority first.
Speaker 1: But there's like that it's just kind of hard to explain, like.
Speaker 5: Well, there's gonna be there's gonna be a certain level
Speaker 5: of personal that that personal connection as well as less
Speaker 5: transactional more from a personal standpoint too, Like even like
Speaker 5: you said, I and of course it's the NFL, it's
Speaker 5: the most probably one of the most cutthroat industries. I
Speaker 5: think the NFL and you know, coincidentally the UFC or
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts a pretty dark cutthroat.
Speaker 4: But when you can feel like it's a little.
Speaker 5: Bit less transactional and more like, hey, we want this
Speaker 5: guy on the team, not because of not because of
Speaker 5: just the x's and o's and what he brings on
Speaker 5: the field, which obviously the boy can ball.
Speaker 4: But even just like you said, the energy.
Speaker 5: The the the level of professionalism, or even just the energy
Speaker 5: that you bring to a team, do you bring it
Speaker 5: to an organization?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably what you're alluding to, I would imagine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also even when I'm getting cut or getting
Speaker 2: released or coming back in, like just being around the
Speaker 2: staff and the GM and people that all these transactions
Speaker 2: are happening right just the uh, I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: it was all first class, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like they were just super they were just like super
Speaker 2: fucking good to me.
Speaker 4: This story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the story you told sitting right there too, where
Speaker 5: the guy was around the corner and you.
Speaker 4: Know, like, are you cutting Yeah, I know, don Joseph
Speaker 4: shout out the.
Speaker 1: Boy Doyen Joe man.
Speaker 2: But I walked in and when I saw him and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you're fucking cut me, And just seeing
Speaker 2: having a conversation with Mayok and just again I don't
Speaker 2: know everything that had happened, obviously that stuff plays into it.
Speaker 2: They're wanting to be there for me. They you kind
Speaker 2: of hated cutting me the first time. They're like, hey,
Speaker 2: use all of our resource, and I'm like, guys, I promise,
Speaker 2: like I'm doing all right, Like I'm solid. And just
Speaker 2: the nature of the conversations, whether it's the reputation and
Speaker 2: everything else where you kind of just know, I know
Speaker 2: my role going into it, So I don't know just
Speaker 2: all of it. Man, they were just they were first
Speaker 2: class to me. They have been the entire time. And again, Bro.
Speaker 1: Bisacia, the staff, the players, it's it's.
Speaker 4: All like one family there.
Speaker 2: And you hated seeing the headlines that were coming out
Speaker 2: of Vegas because obviously they've been through so much shit
Speaker 2: this year with like dumb choices by some of the
Speaker 2: players and obviously coach Gruden being gone, getting canned and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and uh, just seeing the good vibe
Speaker 2: and the cohesiveness of that locker room, Like how much
Speaker 2: guys leaned on each other, the leadership, the player leadership,
Speaker 2: the coaching leadership, how much guys wanted to just win
Speaker 2: for that man, coach Pisacea, which again I'm gonna try
Speaker 2: not to get too much into him because we're gonna
Speaker 2: have a out come on later and we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about Coach Pisacia, But how much they wanted to win
Speaker 2: for that dude too, and how much I respect him.
Speaker 2: And I've only been I had only been with the
Speaker 2: Raiders collectively out of the two seasons, eleven weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm talking and feeling and.
Speaker 2: All this stuff. So I feel like It just says
Speaker 2: a lot about Pisasia, the men in that room, and
Speaker 2: just the organization too. Uh, just through all of that shit.
Speaker 2: So you just wanted to see them be successful.
Speaker 4: Yeah know.
Speaker 5: And it's and it's interesting too, kind of that that
Speaker 5: first hand experience because people can see the coach on
Speaker 5: the sidelines, and they can hear them in the press conferences,
Speaker 5: and they can see the wins and the losses on
Speaker 5: the field and whatnot, but they don't A lot of
Speaker 5: people never get to peel back the layer of how
Speaker 5: the actual team and organization that the the.
Speaker 4: The internal, not the external.
Speaker 5: Everybody gets to see the external, the x's and the o's,
Speaker 5: and the wins and the losses and the on the
Speaker 5: microphone during the press conferences, but they don't see the
Speaker 5: stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: Same thing with with mixed martial arts.
Speaker 5: My experience of the UFC, they a guy like Dana
Speaker 5: White who's constantly on the TV, constantly on microphones, and
Speaker 5: people have their their opinions of him and how he
Speaker 5: runs and operates his business. But then there's the complete
Speaker 5: opposite end of the spectrum of a guy like me
Speaker 5: who's completely into it, completely in the inside and completely.
Speaker 4: Gets a feeling.
Speaker 5: I don't remember everything that he's going to say, but
Speaker 5: I remember how I was, how I felt in these negotiations,
Speaker 5: I felt in the locker rooms, so to speak, or
Speaker 5: in these venues on the conversations, how you feel that
Speaker 5: it's more more than just transactional even though you know,
Speaker 5: as you know in the NFL it is, it is
Speaker 5: what it is, and the show continues to go on.
Speaker 5: I think, no matter what, the biggest mistake we can
Speaker 5: make as athletes, especially in the individual sport like mixed
Speaker 5: martial arts or even on the football field, is thinking
Speaker 5: that you have more of a stake in the team
Speaker 5: or in the organization, or they need you more than
Speaker 5: they actually do, because the show will continue to go on, right,
Speaker 5: And that's one of the hardest things to accept. But
Speaker 5: once you do accept it, then you can look at
Speaker 5: it with a an unfettered lens of Okay, I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna put my best foot for I'm do everything I
Speaker 5: possibly can for as long as I possibly can.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, nine year ten right, right.
Speaker 2: You were alluding to that too on the last podcast
Speaker 2: about just how you make people feel like you know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you don't remember what
Speaker 2: they say, you don't remember what they did, but you
Speaker 2: understand how people made you feel. And two, going off
Speaker 2: of that, do we do we have a question about?
Speaker 2: I know I've been asked like handling being cut, the
Speaker 2: amount of times I was cut this year, a couple
Speaker 2: of times I was cut this year and jumping from
Speaker 2: team the team. Did we have a question because I
Speaker 2: want to be able to shut out that fan?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: How mentally this is from Caleb Gray at shere Bando seven.
Speaker 2: If you're watching, if you're watching on YouTube, obviously it's
Speaker 2: gonna be sitting up there. But how mentally strong do
Speaker 2: you have to do you have to be to go
Speaker 2: through the NFL es, especially the way you are currently
Speaker 2: getting getting signed, released, signed and released by teams, and
Speaker 2: obviously mentally strong.
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Speaker 2: I was about to answer this fans question, how mantally
Speaker 2: strong do you have to be to go through the NFL,
Speaker 2: especially when you're sign release signed release by teams. Mike
Speaker 2: and I was going in on a conversation. I don't know,
Speaker 2: how can how can you summarize this so Jelly can
Speaker 2: be involved and we can catch them up on what
Speaker 2: we were just talking about. You went on that tangent
Speaker 2: of making people the way you feel the sooner you accept.
Speaker 1: What's out of your control.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, especially in in this.
Speaker 5: I mean in in all three of our industries, whether
Speaker 5: it's it's music or athletics in the NFL, or me
Speaker 5: winning winning fights, losing fights, maybe get into contract, not
Speaker 5: getting a contract, the ups and downs, losing sponsors, keeping sponsors.
Speaker 5: It's just you got to understand too, that at the
Speaker 5: journey is the goal sometimes too, like we always get
Speaker 5: focused on that one goal when really, what if it's
Speaker 5: just the journey to get there that is going to
Speaker 5: make you the man and the woman that you are.
Speaker 4: So you're galvanized on the other end of it.
Speaker 5: You know, you're the man that you become by getting
Speaker 5: cut signed, cut signed, like all these different things you do,
Speaker 5: all the different things that we've been through.
Speaker 4: You know, it's and it's just a part of the journey.
Speaker 1: You were.
Speaker 2: Your quotes and one liners always give me fucking juice, dude,
Speaker 2: because you were you reminded me.
Speaker 4: It's like the goal is the process, Like journey is
Speaker 4: the goal.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 1: Have you ever been cut? Uh?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't, but I have do. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: I've had tears in my eyes rolling my suitcases back
Speaker 5: up to my house in San Diego. After losing three
Speaker 5: fights in a row, I went six hundred and eight
Speaker 5: days with I won in a fight, and I thought
Speaker 5: I was going to You.
Speaker 1: Thought that wasn't that long ago, was it?
Speaker 4: It was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: It was like twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen, and it
Speaker 5: was like, and I had just gotten married. I'm supposed
Speaker 5: to be providing for my wife and I can't win
Speaker 5: a dang fight to save my life.
Speaker 2: So I'm And you also have bigger goals of like
Speaker 2: getting to the UFC and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of you went through some sponsors ship
Speaker 1: then too, where some sponsors bailed.
Speaker 5: On yeah, yeah, which is which is yeah? And in
Speaker 5: my industry too, it's kind of interesting. It doesn't matter
Speaker 5: how big the platform is. I mean, it's all about relationships.
Speaker 4: Can you can you?
Speaker 5: Because no matter what, it doesn't matter if it's the
Speaker 5: biggest bank or the biggest commercial dealer or the biggest
Speaker 5: the biggest.
Speaker 4: Record label or whatever.
Speaker 5: It's still heartbeats and people behind those decision makings, and
Speaker 5: you got to have a good relationship. Do you have
Speaker 5: a good reputation a good relationship with those people? So,
Speaker 5: but yeah, it's been ups and downs.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what the playoff Willie had to
Speaker 1: say about this. Yeah, I know, I think because I
Speaker 1: say it was from a friend's perspective, I think.
Speaker 5: It was just as hard on us friends as well
Speaker 5: with you friend that could not quit laughing at the
Speaker 5: second post when you were like I don't believe this ship.
Speaker 1: I was like me slaughing, laughing Like my daughter was like,
Speaker 1: what's so funny?
Speaker 3: I might have once begin.
Speaker 1: Was like what's so funny? I was like, we all
Speaker 1: get cut from the raiders. She's like, that's awful. Why
Speaker 1: are you laughing? I was like, it's happened twice for me.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in such a different spot in
Speaker 2: my career like to me and you were saying it too.
Speaker 2: The sooner you can accept what's out of your control,
Speaker 2: the easier life is going to be for you because
Speaker 2: things are just out of your control. And the sooner
Speaker 2: you can get over that hump and move forward, and
Speaker 2: this that the other I know, this last thing with
Speaker 2: the Raiders playing football really was just a reminder for
Speaker 2: me about how much the relationship, the relationships, just the game,
Speaker 2: the love of the game in general, and the camaraderie,
Speaker 2: like just how much that meant to me. So no
Speaker 2: matter what had happened, because number one, when Basachia first
Speaker 2: called me, he's like, Hey, I don't know how long
Speaker 2: you know you'll be with us because injuries and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. But he's like, you know, I'll guarantee you
Speaker 2: without guaranteeing you, that I'll get you as much as
Speaker 2: three games as possible, because if you get three games,
Speaker 2: that's a credited season. So he knew I had wanted
Speaker 2: that before I went out there, So he Basata is
Speaker 2: a guy who kind of keeps it. He keeps it
Speaker 2: real with you the entire time you're out there. The
Speaker 2: second week I was there, I was about to get
Speaker 2: cut and put on practice squad. He was like, Hey,
Speaker 2: we might cut you today, we'll put you back on
Speaker 2: practice squad and then we'll use two elevations that'll get
Speaker 2: you or three games. We've got to manipulate the roster
Speaker 2: round because of injuries, tight ends, tight ends coming back,
Speaker 2: like different positions coming back. And so he's somebody that's
Speaker 2: just always communicated with me and been transparent.
Speaker 5: Is that normal, by the way, I don't know, like
Speaker 5: does the head coach usually call no, okay, no?
Speaker 2: Does not usually does not usually disclose a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff like all the transactions and.
Speaker 4: Would normally be your your positions coach.
Speaker 2: Or I mean usually you just get a call, hey,
Speaker 2: can you come to the facility and bring your iPad
Speaker 2: and then you know you're getting cut, so then you
Speaker 2: usually just know what time it is. I think for
Speaker 2: me being thirty two, being and playing for Basasia and
Speaker 2: kind of having a little bit of a relationship with
Speaker 2: him throughout since I've been on the Raiders the first time,
Speaker 2: you kind of just have the relationship to to say
Speaker 2: those things are call him up and kind of say, hey,
Speaker 2: here's what your role is gonna be. Because I'm not
Speaker 2: a young guy anymore. It's not like, you know, I
Speaker 2: know when I got cut when I was younger or
Speaker 2: bounced from the uh the Washington football teams of the Titans,
Speaker 2: like you know, there's it's a different it's a different
Speaker 2: approach with like the mental strength. But for me, you
Speaker 2: kind of know some things are coming. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: bummed and it sucked, especially uh before the playoffs.
Speaker 4: I was really wanting to be a part of the
Speaker 4: playoff run.
Speaker 2: But it's it's honestly just accepting what you can't control,
Speaker 2: like and knowing that that that that plays nothing into
Speaker 2: the next decision that you're about to make.
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, I got cut.
Speaker 2: Now what do I do? How do I embrace this
Speaker 2: shitty situation?
Speaker 4: That's maturity, man, that's the that's the wisdom of the
Speaker 4: of the wolf.
Speaker 2: In a while to like be that way too, like,
Speaker 2: because you're in such an uncertain all of us we're
Speaker 2: sitting here, you we're in like an uncertain We're in
Speaker 2: uncertain industries right to where the turnover.
Speaker 1: Is rapid, especially in football, I know with the UFC.
Speaker 2: I know, once you get established in music, you can
Speaker 2: kind of ride that you have that momentum.
Speaker 1: You're still only as big as your last hit. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: like he's as big as his last fight. You're as
Speaker 1: big as your last season in the NFL, or who
Speaker 1: you played for, what position you played, Make no mistake.
Speaker 1: Lucky for some of us I'm blessed that I've built.
Speaker 1: I have a family, like a real fan base that's
Speaker 1: a cult following. But ultimately, all these big decisions outside
Speaker 1: of the ones that are gonna ride with me, no
Speaker 1: matter what, I don't put out a good song this year,
Speaker 1: nobody gives a fuck that performance based the world, man,
Speaker 1: are you talking about like pop culture like Jelly Rolls
Speaker 1: supporters will love me if I don't write a song
Speaker 1: for ten years, right, But the pop culture people like
Speaker 1: y'all would call them the casuals in MMA. They don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck if I don't If I don't produce
Speaker 1: this year, it's.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that's fucking wild man.
Speaker 1: It's scary. It has to go to the studio with
Speaker 1: a different mentality.
Speaker 2: Always because you're always you always have that chip and
Speaker 2: you're always looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 1: I was never afraid of not making it, and I
Speaker 1: am petrified of losing it. Does that make sense? I
Speaker 1: was never afraid of not making it, but I am
Speaker 1: petrified of.
Speaker 3: List that fucking hitter right there.
Speaker 1: It's like, if I didn't make it, who cares?
Speaker 4: Like I took?
Speaker 1: Like I told you before, I was, you know, you can't.
Speaker 1: I've been at the bottom. But you know, whatever I've been,
Speaker 1: I know what that is. Now. It's like if I
Speaker 1: have to go back there, I'm okay with that. I've
Speaker 1: sat on this podcast before because I know the place.
Speaker 1: I was a fucking tour guide. But it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm at night. You know, your fears are totally
Speaker 1: different than when you're coming up. So it's like, God,
Speaker 1: just it puts a pressure on the studio that I
Speaker 1: never wanted, right, you know? Does that dudes? That happen
Speaker 1: for y' all in practice? Like you knowing this is
Speaker 1: year nine? When you show up to the Raiders, is
Speaker 1: it like, Man, I gotta bust my fucking ass. I
Speaker 1: gotta show these twenty four year olds I.
Speaker 4: Belong here a little bit.
Speaker 2: Not not so much it did in nineteen when I
Speaker 2: was on the Raiders, like they had pressed they had
Speaker 2: brought Presston Brown in and I'm like late at night,
Speaker 2: like laying it like fuck, like I gotta bust my
Speaker 2: ass because I can't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to lose my job.
Speaker 2: And this one, it's like I knew so much about
Speaker 2: what it was before I had gotten there, not that
Speaker 2: I knew I was gonna get twice in a week
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and you know, COVID, my mom
Speaker 2: passing and stuff like that. You don't know that that's coming,
Speaker 2: but you kind of know what your role is going
Speaker 2: to be in at all. So how can you embrace
Speaker 2: that little role that you might have. Like there's half
Speaker 2: the team you know because I was there at nineteen.
Speaker 2: The other half you don't know. But they're gonna have
Speaker 2: some type of curiosity about why are people feeling this
Speaker 2: way about Will when you know at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, he's just playing special teams in a backup
Speaker 2: spot and stuff.
Speaker 3: So it's just.
Speaker 2: Important to like coach young guys, not even coaching, but
Speaker 2: just kind of be around to ask questions and whenever
Speaker 2: they had questions for me, like just being an open
Speaker 2: book and just being like somebody who always walks in
Speaker 2: the room and has like a positive attitude about something,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like especially recently, some like
Speaker 2: and I know people care about me and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: But sometimes I'll be around people I'll be like, damn
Speaker 2: they they seem to feel worse for me than I
Speaker 2: actually feel for myself right now, because when you do
Speaker 2: get cut and for people who are absolutely curious based
Speaker 2: on hard times that they might be in or whatnot.
Speaker 2: Like if the minute I do get cut, I can think, damn,
Speaker 2: why am I not getting another chance? Like I just
Speaker 2: had COVID, I was sick for a week, had symptoms,
Speaker 2: my mom just passed. Like I know, I was just
Speaker 2: averaging the first game back with KC. But why can't
Speaker 2: I get another opportunity or another chance. You can be
Speaker 2: that hard person to cut and be like, you know,
Speaker 2: feel sorry for yourself and think about all the shit
Speaker 2: you just endured to bring that into me being cut.
Speaker 2: But it's again, man, how quickly can you just accept
Speaker 2: that this shit is not in my control? Fine, there's
Speaker 2: always something to be grateful for it, no matter how
Speaker 2: fucking down bad I felt like I was, there's always
Speaker 2: something to kind of look toward. Whether it's like I
Speaker 2: get to go back and see the boys and be
Speaker 2: back on the bus again. I get to go back
Speaker 2: and see my wife, who's seven months pregnant.
Speaker 3: I get to go back.
Speaker 2: And I can call my you know, I can get
Speaker 2: on the phone my dad a little bit more. I
Speaker 2: can do all these different things, and then, you know,
Speaker 2: how can I spin it? To embrace this uncertain situation
Speaker 2: and bring humor to people by being cut or showing
Speaker 2: people the inside of like, yo, I'm getting cut.
Speaker 3: It fucking sucks. I wish I could still play.
Speaker 2: Or the second time I am once again telling you
Speaker 2: I'm getting cut by the raiders, like just finding off
Speaker 2: that cynical or what? But you just again, man, it's
Speaker 2: like direct your actions? How are you going to choose
Speaker 2: to direct your next actions after accepting what you can't control?
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's something that is just always
Speaker 2: with me. It did take time because, like you said,
Speaker 2: when you're younger, you're super stressed. Because when I was
Speaker 2: young and on practice squad and stuff, you want to
Speaker 2: be a superstar or you want to you want this
Speaker 2: shit so fucking badly. You're just you fear getting cut
Speaker 2: and everything else. Not that you ever doubt your ability,
Speaker 2: but you live with that fear in your mind when
Speaker 2: you lay down and you're just like, fuck, I need
Speaker 2: to perform. I had a bad day a practice, I
Speaker 2: had this, I had that. Basashi always says, a good thing.
Speaker 2: You can have bad moments, but don't ever have a
Speaker 2: bad day. You can have bad moments, you can have
Speaker 2: that place we can coach the fuck out of you
Speaker 2: on this play. You can see it this way, But
Speaker 2: don't ever go to bed feeling like you have a
Speaker 2: bad day. Once you have that bad moment, figure out
Speaker 2: how you learn from that moment, how you can accept it,
Speaker 2: how you can then pivot and figure out and adapt
Speaker 2: to and overcome it.
Speaker 4: And then from there that is the positive in.
Speaker 1: That bad moment.
Speaker 3: Therefore you don't you don't eventually have a bad day.
Speaker 3: You don't ultimately have a bad day.
Speaker 1: Was it like there for you in the practice room
Speaker 1: with big fights? Was it more pressure? Man? I doing
Speaker 1: it since wrestless, since you were a kid.
Speaker 2: So it's just like, nah, it's just because that's an
Speaker 2: individual sport too, Like you're fucking I know the fears
Speaker 2: that come in with when I was growing up wrestling
Speaker 2: my brother was a stud. But like I know, the
Speaker 2: fear like you're going on the Cody Cody common, no
Speaker 2: free shout outs, but that little fear you have, like
Speaker 2: what is that like?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is that like for you?
Speaker 5: Well, I've been sitting here just listen, listening to this
Speaker 5: and and I think it should be a testament to
Speaker 5: any young young athlete, young entrepreneur, young young man or woman,
Speaker 5: out there. This stuff takes time to mold yourself into
Speaker 5: who you want to be. Well, we're talking about a
Speaker 5: Will Compton who was able to come in, get in
Speaker 5: where you fit in, be the inspiration, be the light
Speaker 5: to younger guys, even if it meant them passing you up,
Speaker 5: or younger guys knowing what your role is. You think
Speaker 5: about the twenty three to twenty five year old Will
Speaker 5: was scared to death of everything, whereas now the thirty
Speaker 5: two thirty three year old Will comes in with this
Speaker 5: almost guardian ship mentality. You're gonna go out there, you're
Speaker 5: gonna ball, you're gonna do your thing. And it's kind
Speaker 5: of the same thing with me as well. I mean,
Speaker 5: there's a there's so much maturity and all the stuff
Speaker 5: that you're saying it, and it's not like you had
Speaker 5: this moment of wisdom. It took you nine years to
Speaker 5: get here, and then the five years or four years
Speaker 5: before that at Nebraska and then the years in Missouri
Speaker 5: playing football. It takes decades to turn yourself into the
Speaker 5: man that you have become and the man that I
Speaker 5: have become, and the man that you have become. And
Speaker 5: it's it should if anything, people shouldn't be listening. Well, man,
Speaker 5: I wish I had that kind of wisdom. I had
Speaker 5: that kind of mentality. Will's over here talking about gratitude.
Speaker 5: How are you gonna have gratitude when you get cut
Speaker 5: two times in one week and all that, and it's
Speaker 5: it becomes so much more. Like we talked about with
Speaker 5: my mindset coach who was sitting here, Jim Hencil, like,
Speaker 5: fighting for me is what I do, but it's not
Speaker 5: who I be, you know, it's not who I am
Speaker 5: as a person. I am not fully encompassed by the
Speaker 5: sport of mixed martial arts.
Speaker 4: And I become a man inside the.
Speaker 5: Sport who can govern and negotiate and navigate this entire
Speaker 5: life based upon all the experiences that I've had, you know,
Speaker 5: and I younger. When I was younger in my career,
Speaker 5: I had the blessing and the curse of getting shot
Speaker 5: out of a cannon. Eighteen months into my career, I
Speaker 5: was the number three lightweight in the world, and everybody
Speaker 5: was talking about how we want to see him go
Speaker 5: fight in the UFC. So that brought about a lot
Speaker 5: of self inflicted pressure, you know, self inflicted pressure where
Speaker 5: I'm sparring with the guy and I get hit and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, I think, will shoot Now, I
Speaker 5: gotta get it back, and I just lost around if
Speaker 5: I'm gonna lose around to this quote unquote, nobody gonna
Speaker 5: be the best lightweight in the world.
Speaker 4: And we start to put all this pressure on ourselves, and.
Speaker 5: Then you can only do that for so long where
Speaker 5: you either crash and burn and never make it, or
Speaker 5: you crash and burn, pull yourself back up and pull
Speaker 5: yourself out of that valley. For me, it was three
Speaker 5: three losses in a row, six hundred eighty eight days
Speaker 5: that win in a fight, and then all of a
Speaker 5: sudden you get to you do get to a point,
Speaker 5: and you've probably felt this too, like this thing isn't
Speaker 5: that big of a deal, you know, I put so
Speaker 5: much pressure on myself, like this whole thing is the
Speaker 5: end all be all, And that's a probably a good
Speaker 5: indicator that you probably have a little bit too much
Speaker 5: of your self esteem, yourself worth, your self image tied
Speaker 5: up into what you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your identity, which you gotta I don't. I can't.
Speaker 5: You can't sit here and say that you can't have
Speaker 5: your identity in it, in it, maybe not fully but
Speaker 5: it needs to be in there or else you're not
Speaker 5: gonna You're not gonna get to where you need to go.
Speaker 2: You definitely have to have some obsession with you have
Speaker 2: to who you are and what you're doing. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to I feel like, have that perspective that
Speaker 2: you aren't fully what that sport is. Like we'll come
Speaker 2: from the football player and all this stuff, because once
Speaker 2: that identity he gets attacked, you are very like triggered
Speaker 2: and you can like emotionally react back to it.
Speaker 5: And it's just a self it's a self fulfilling, self
Speaker 5: defeating prophecy a lot of times too when you you
Speaker 5: kind of get in there and we've we've probably all
Speaker 5: gone through it, you know, and it's just it's a
Speaker 5: beautiful thing and it's a blessing in the scars. But
Speaker 5: once again, it's that journey that we talked about, the
Speaker 5: journey of getting to where you want to go.
Speaker 4: It really was the goal.
Speaker 5: The goal was being the man on the other side
Speaker 5: of this trial, this valley, this hardship.
Speaker 2: Right, jolly, what's what's like getting cut equivalent to in
Speaker 2: your industry? Is it just like people just stop fucking
Speaker 2: listening and then you just you're kind of in your own.
Speaker 1: Head with you, right. Your biggest fear is that my
Speaker 1: nightmares are one day everybody wakes up at the same
Speaker 1: time and decides we're over the jelly roll guy. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean raised from everybody's personal playlist,
Speaker 1: and I know it's an unrealistic think. It's good to
Speaker 1: be centered talking to y'all, Like to day, I came
Speaker 1: in here and dealt with my depression to help me
Speaker 1: so much because I am in the opposite space mentally
Speaker 1: of y'all. Two, I'm working on my new album and
Speaker 1: there is so much pressure in the writing room, got
Speaker 1: to be and it's like I've never you know why,
Speaker 1: because I never had a bar, Right, I never had
Speaker 1: a bar before. It was like, I've just wrote thousands
Speaker 1: of songs. So and the good news is I know
Speaker 1: one thing about myself. I'm willing to write thousands of
Speaker 1: more because I love it. So I know I'm going
Speaker 1: to write another good song sometime.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's like because I'm willing to write thousands of
Speaker 1: bad ones, but that's cool. But it's like totally different
Speaker 1: because for the first time when you meet new producers, right,
Speaker 1: you walk into the room. There was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: was thinking, we love dead Man Walking up because it's
Speaker 1: like number twenty something on rock radio. Get let's say
Speaker 1: twenty seven right there, let's go at the radio. My
Speaker 1: first my first song ever is at the radio, and
Speaker 1: it's doing beyond any imagination I could have had. So
Speaker 1: he's like, I love dead Man Walking. I was thinking
Speaker 1: something like that, and I was like, oh, I got
Speaker 1: a bar now. Like now it's not like just let's
Speaker 1: write a good song. It's like, can we write a
Speaker 1: dead Man Walking? Yeah? You're just like I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't just shiit those yea.
Speaker 5: When you say ball, you're saying, we have you have
Speaker 5: something that's solidified.
Speaker 1: Or it was just like, let's write a good song now.
Speaker 1: Producers are like you if you've tried something, you know
Speaker 1: the tempo and key have saved me is this And
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh Jesus, you think I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: another save me today? You think I just woke up
Speaker 1: like if I could just write, write twenty of them
Speaker 1: and return the save butt. You know what I'm saying, Fuck,
Speaker 1: I'll go write rocket Man again, right not we just
Speaker 1: turn on a write you know what I'm saying it's
Speaker 1: not how it works. So it's like, but you're in
Speaker 1: these rooms and they had that expectation. Now is that
Speaker 1: we're improving, you can do it. That's where the pressure
Speaker 1: comes from.
Speaker 4: More.
Speaker 1: There's more pressure, and you're just like, man, I just
Speaker 1: want to like smoke a joint, write a song. Dude,
Speaker 1: I don't it might suck. Man, Is that okay?
Speaker 9: Is that?
Speaker 1: If that's not okay with you, I'm not the guy
Speaker 1: to be in the room with because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: might fuck this up. Just so y'all know, I'm subject
Speaker 1: to like get too drunk too early. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I might blow this whole thing. I might forget we're
Speaker 1: writing and get on TikTok for the next hour. Please
Speaker 1: put no faith in me to come in here and
Speaker 1: write another save me today, because I don't have to.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like I'm not that's not what I
Speaker 1: you know, it's the old days. Those songs were written
Speaker 1: because I just showed up and blew one and was like,
Speaker 1: a man, let's just write a song.
Speaker 2: And probably because you not like string bad days, but
Speaker 2: you just have your own process, like, hey, it's gonna
Speaker 2: come when it comes.
Speaker 3: And now you feel like the expectation.
Speaker 2: Of being in the room with these writers, like, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys are expecting me to pop this thing out
Speaker 2: like well within the next couple of.
Speaker 3: Days or what.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's they do factory writing. That's why I say
Speaker 1: Ernest is the most talented person I know. You can
Speaker 1: wake Earnest up out of a coma and put him
Speaker 1: in a room with somebody and just start writing a
Speaker 1: big song. That's just who Ernest is and how he
Speaker 1: does it. It is not how Jelly does it. I
Speaker 1: have a totally different approach. I gotta feel like writing.
Speaker 1: I gotta wanna write, you know what I'm saying. Admittedly,
Speaker 1: it might have to be a substance involved for me
Speaker 1: to be to feel maximum creative. You know what we're Ernest,
Speaker 1: you could literally wake him up dead sleep, Hey man,
Speaker 1: sit up, man, I got an idea. He's like, yet
Speaker 1: me too, me to like, was you fucking dreaming of it?
Speaker 1: You know where it's just a little different from me
Speaker 1: because the music is more cathartic, so it's more of
Speaker 1: a you know, I'm more of a deep thinker about it. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I needed to hear y'all's mentality about how this should
Speaker 1: done stress y all. He's just like, yeah, man, that's
Speaker 1: not my idea. And You're like, yeah, man, I'm fucking
Speaker 1: veteran in the locker room. Dog you get cut like,
Speaker 1: fuck y'all. Fucking I'm over here, butt my butt hoole's
Speaker 1: fucker tight every time I walk in one of these meats.
Speaker 4: Well, but I think there's there's a certain amount of you.
Speaker 2: Almost hate that he says that, because you I don't
Speaker 2: feel like we're just we just feel that way.
Speaker 5: Well kind of mean, kind of, but but I think
Speaker 5: there was there was moments where that that pressure was
Speaker 5: was very important. There was moments and and some days
Speaker 5: it gets to you, some days it doesn't. And sometimes
Speaker 5: in some seasons, uh, and you just you you kind
Speaker 5: of navigate.
Speaker 4: Through it and you experience through it, you know.
Speaker 1: All a vice about something. Yeah, I got everybody asking me, now,
Speaker 1: is it gonna be a rock album? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: do a rap album? Are you gonna do a country album?
Speaker 1: And I never had to deal with that before. I
Speaker 1: just wrote music and just had lived wherever it hell.
Speaker 1: So for the first time in my life, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to deal with that because now
Speaker 1: when I'm in a writing room. You know, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, what producer do I call? Cause I don't
Speaker 1: know if I want to write, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know what I'm writing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I never thought about it before. It's
Speaker 1: almost like fuck. I watched Joe Dirt my daughter the
Speaker 1: other day. It's damn by the way. I took Bailey
Speaker 1: on my side, tangent. I took Bailey on this movie
Speaker 1: trend right where I make her watch all the old
Speaker 1: like my classics. She calls them classical movies, Like I'm
Speaker 1: making her watch black and white people.
Speaker 3: Like Gone with the Wind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, but it's like my class I'm like, yo.
Speaker 1: So like we watch we watched two, We watch a
Speaker 1: whole the marathon the other day. I have a list
Speaker 1: of my phone then we just check them off as
Speaker 1: we go. It's like thirty movies I wanted to see,
Speaker 1: And every time we do it, we'll watch a funny
Speaker 1: one and a sad one. And Joe Dirt was the
Speaker 1: funny one this day. Right Forrest Gump was the sad one. Right,
Speaker 1: So we watched we watched Joe Dirt, and it was
Speaker 1: like So, first of all, I've never related to a
Speaker 1: story more than I think I personally relate to Joe
Speaker 1: Dirt story. But it was like when the dude was
Speaker 1: It's like, have you ever thought of like cutting the mullet?
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I guess I could do that,
Speaker 1: like he'd never thought about it. That's how I felt
Speaker 1: when somebody was like, are you gonna do a rock
Speaker 1: or rap album? I'm like, never thought of it, never
Speaker 1: crossed my mind until you said it. Now I can't
Speaker 1: quit fucking thinking about it now.
Speaker 5: It's the only thing because before you were just making music.
Speaker 5: Jelly Roll was just making music. Now it's like, now
Speaker 5: that you have the bar, you have the pressure. Now
Speaker 5: you have to think about what direction you go. You're saying,
Speaker 5: I never thought about it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's tough. I feel like, so
Speaker 1: that's weird, right it is?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because well, because you also have that, I mean,
Speaker 5: you have a unique sound that is also kind of
Speaker 5: between both.
Speaker 3: I was thinking that too.
Speaker 2: I feel like what you rid a lot of these
Speaker 2: genres into like your own thing because when people comment
Speaker 2: certain things about the pod and you.
Speaker 1: Think, oh, should we do it this way?
Speaker 2: Should we do it that way, and then it's just
Speaker 2: like stuck on my head twenty four to seven that
Speaker 2: you know, hey.
Speaker 1: Guys, we should do this.
Speaker 2: I feel like you just get caught up in comparing
Speaker 2: where you should be based on what somebody else's expectation is,
Speaker 2: whereas you've gotten to where you are, and we've all
Speaker 2: gotten to where we are based on genuinely being ourselves.
Speaker 2: I think when you're like, when you are uniquely yourself,
Speaker 2: it all comes together, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: If you get caught too much up into the wrap
Speaker 3: or the rock.
Speaker 2: Now, if you've got something in the basement that you've
Speaker 2: been wanting to do that you know is yourself and
Speaker 2: there's a there's inspiration behind it that you're bringing up,
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I've been wanting to do this. Now
Speaker 2: I have the platform and now is the time to
Speaker 2: do something like this. Fucking go for it. But if
Speaker 2: it's something that I feel like you're sitting there leaning
Speaker 2: on because you feel like a couple of people said
Speaker 2: something and it places an expectation in your head, because again,
Speaker 2: I'm only going off of what I see because I
Speaker 2: am so obsessed with getting better at busting with the
Speaker 2: boys that I fall into that stuff too, that you
Speaker 2: start to change your expectation just because you're comparing it
Speaker 2: to somebody else's, if that makes sense. Now, Well, I
Speaker 2: don't know what goes in your head as far as
Speaker 2: how much you love being in the rap of the rock. Like,
Speaker 2: I think you're talented, and again, like he said, I
Speaker 2: do think you kind of bring it all together to
Speaker 2: where you can kind of call it whichever genre you
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 4: But I think you're just being unique to yourself, Jelly.
Speaker 8: They're asking too because you had talked about either on
Speaker 8: here or Ernest.
Speaker 9: You were talking about you had a country, a rock,
Speaker 9: and a rap album coming too.
Speaker 8: That's why they're asking, right, because you were already talking
Speaker 8: about doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I just I knew that the sound was
Speaker 1: so fused. And this might be getting too deep into
Speaker 1: how the sausages made, but there's like inside baseball. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: even though I don't believe the genres are a thing
Speaker 1: or should be a thing, corporate America still does and
Speaker 1: they want you to like pledge allegiance to them, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like when you're on a walk
Speaker 1: fine line here, when you're on rock radio, rock expects
Speaker 1: you to represent rock music, which I think I do
Speaker 1: represent the spirit of rock music better than anybody. I mean, y'all,
Speaker 1: you know, y'all know who I am. It's like country.
Speaker 4: Hit the tape on it.
Speaker 1: It's like country music. Y'all get it, y'all know what
Speaker 1: I do. Yes, so show me drunk and falling off
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Speaker 1: music is like, dude, I could sing, you know, amazing
Speaker 1: Grace is gonna sound a little country. I'm fucking from Tennessee, Dude,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I can't help how I
Speaker 1: sound when I sing. Period.
Speaker 4: It's just it's a.
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Speaker 1: I feel like one of them Mormons or something. These
Speaker 1: are my three wives, and I love them all equally.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like and you know, we
Speaker 1: all have a unique relationship in our own way. So
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Speaker 4: That's a fucking fire little ad. Do you have to
Speaker 4: choose one producer for an album?
Speaker 1: No, you can have multis always dance around y'all work
Speaker 1: the room. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of one of my things is But it's like with
Speaker 1: new success comes new opportunities, which both of y'all get,
Speaker 1: which is new to me. Y'all been here a lot
Speaker 1: longer me right, as far as in the successful seat
Speaker 1: of life.
Speaker 4: So it's like.
Speaker 1: I kind of snuck in the back door and hope
Speaker 1: didn't nobody notice me?
Speaker 4: By no man, Yeah dude.
Speaker 1: But it's like, so with that a little way back
Speaker 1: in the day, So there's new opportunities there. So you're
Speaker 1: meeting with new producers and you know you're doing you're
Speaker 1: doing the man dance again for the first time.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like okay, So it's like, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: like dating somebody again, and it's like, well, I'm happily
Speaker 1: married I don't want to start dating all over, but
Speaker 1: I know I need to for growth, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just been a unique thing I'm
Speaker 1: going through. And when y'all started bringing up y'all ship,
Speaker 1: you were like, yeah, man, I just you know, did
Speaker 1: you get cut? I'm a veteran. I was just like, God,
Speaker 1: I needed to hear this today. It's not how I
Speaker 1: feel about where I'm at.
Speaker 2: My Whenever you get on the other side of the
Speaker 2: album that you're making and then you you see it
Speaker 2: for what it is, and then you realize you put
Speaker 2: way too much pressure on yourself during that time frame,
Speaker 2: and then, to me, that's how you That's how I
Speaker 2: kind of learned and look back, like, man, we took
Speaker 2: that shit way too seriously, and you can kind of like,
Speaker 2: all right, you forgive yourself and then move on and
Speaker 2: know how to approach it the next time.
Speaker 5: That's that's right there. That's where the rub is. I
Speaker 5: think it's And that's kind of what I was alluding to.
Speaker 5: It's okay to put that type of pressure on yourself
Speaker 5: to get get what needs to be done done to
Speaker 5: then have.
Speaker 4: The success or the failure.
Speaker 5: We've all gone through that and look back and say, man,
Speaker 5: I will put way too much pressure on myself. And
Speaker 5: then you grew to hear and now the next time
Speaker 5: you have a little bit of more of a unique perspective,
Speaker 5: and you're probably still gonna.
Speaker 1: Put that age that you were talking about earlier. Some
Speaker 1: things are meant for the skillets. Some things are meant
Speaker 1: for the crock pot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: By time under tension, you know, like the longer, the
Speaker 5: longer the journey, the more the tension for the longer
Speaker 5: periods of time, Cockpot.
Speaker 1: And the good good news is for the new album.
Speaker 4: I forget.
Speaker 3: I gotta put that quite in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm not in a rush, So it's like, that's the
Speaker 1: cool part. I don't I don't have to grill this album.
Speaker 1: I could smoke it. So that's a good rush.
Speaker 5: That's a good spot to be in too, because then
Speaker 5: because then you also know you're not making decisions based
Speaker 5: on based upon unrealistic timelines and expectations and and even
Speaker 5: just too just thinking about Okay, I'm gonna find the
Speaker 5: right amount of wisdom at the right amount at the
Speaker 5: exact right time to know exactly what moves to make
Speaker 5: relationship and ships to have hands to shake, producers, to
Speaker 5: pick genres, to lean towards all those different things.
Speaker 1: I'm a come here with y'all offline.
Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, this is a good transition. This
Speaker 2: is from red cast Rob Dash rip John Madden.
Speaker 4: Definitely rip John Madden, but.
Speaker 3: Red cast Rob.
Speaker 2: As you continue to get older, how do you stay
Speaker 2: motivated every day, even on a hard days?
Speaker 1: What do you focus on to get there? Mike? What
Speaker 1: do you got for us? I know you, guys, I
Speaker 1: know you got some gems with that one man.
Speaker 4: I mean, well, it's an interesting time for me.
Speaker 5: Obviously, I'm getting older and what I've what I've been doing,
Speaker 5: you know, is mixed martial arts. I know that road
Speaker 5: will end in the coming years. You know, I'm closer
Speaker 5: to the end than I am the very beginning. So
Speaker 5: I'm for me, I'm continuing to take a step back
Speaker 5: and look at my life from a thirty thousand foot
Speaker 5: view of who Michael Chandler is. Who he is is
Speaker 5: a father, a husband, an athlete, a businessman, all these
Speaker 5: different avenues. Relationships have become more important to me because
Speaker 5: I've been so focused on my craft, and eventually that
Speaker 5: craft ends, So then you're only going to be left
Speaker 5: with what you've built, the legacy that you have, and
Speaker 5: the relationships that you have around you, which you can
Speaker 5: continue to create more relationships.
Speaker 4: But I mean, for me, I've been thinking.
Speaker 5: I have been thinking about because my career isn't over
Speaker 5: by any means, so I have years left ahead of me,
Speaker 5: but I know eventually this thing is going to end,
Speaker 5: and I think about, Okay, how do I want to
Speaker 5: be remembered? And because people ask me that all the time, like, hey,
Speaker 5: what do you want your legacy to be? And really,
Speaker 5: I think part of my legacy is never thinking about
Speaker 5: My legacy is just constantly working every single every single day,
Speaker 5: you know. So as I've gotten older, continue to take
Speaker 5: care of my body, continuing to squeeze every ounce of
Speaker 5: happiness and joy and impact I can out of this
Speaker 5: entire career that I've had for such a very long time,
Speaker 5: and then starting to lay the pieces of the puzzle
Speaker 5: together for what's next.
Speaker 1: How do you stay motivated though all the hard times?
Speaker 2: Actually, I know you you deal with depression and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, Like how do you stay motivated on the
Speaker 2: fucking hard days? Do you have experience and being motivated
Speaker 2: or I know, when you get in the tank. Like
Speaker 2: I don't know about all the clinical depression and things
Speaker 2: that can go on, but I know when you get
Speaker 2: in the tank, you can kind of be in the tank.
Speaker 2: But on days where you're kind of toeing the line,
Speaker 2: you know, on those hard days, how do you guys like,
Speaker 2: you know, stay motivated.
Speaker 4: I got to write. That's your that's your outlet.
Speaker 1: I gotta write no matter what. Some days I'll be
Speaker 1: really down and my wife will like push me out
Speaker 1: the door, like go right, like go to the studio
Speaker 1: by yourself and just pick up a pen, and like
Speaker 1: she'll she's took my phone from me before, Like just
Speaker 1: go up there and pull open up your laptop and
Speaker 1: just write. And that's where you know, some of the
Speaker 1: best songs in my career came out of too. It's
Speaker 1: always been my things. What's something I always had? If
Speaker 1: you years being to be I was in and out
Speaker 1: of the juvenile system most of my younger life up
Speaker 1: went into great detail on this story story on this podcast.
Speaker 1: So it's like you spend so much time getting moved
Speaker 1: round from this juvenile prison to this halfway house to
Speaker 1: this group home. One thing that could never take from
Speaker 1: me was my pen and pad, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: what kept me into music, to be honest. So for me,
Speaker 1: it's just making myself even if I don't want to.
Speaker 1: You gotta go fucking right, I'm sure for you, it's
Speaker 1: like I gotta go work out. Dwayne Johnson says that
Speaker 1: that's his anchor. His anchor is that gym. The world
Speaker 1: can shit on him, but he's gonna go in there
Speaker 1: and throw someone around. You don't care how he physically feels, mentally, feels,
Speaker 1: spiritually feels. He's gonna go in here and throw some
Speaker 1: weight around, You know what I mean? What's that anchor
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 2: I think for me, when when times are like hard,
Speaker 2: I feel like there's too much going on in my head,
Speaker 2: like I'm thinking of too many things at once. So
Speaker 2: I feel like for me, like staying motivated, I have
Speaker 2: to have clarity with what I'm going after, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So if I have, for example, if
Speaker 2: I'm looking at staying motivated with football, right which this
Speaker 2: past year I had this hard time staying motivated with
Speaker 2: training every day. I would tell the boys, even when
Speaker 2: when we're going over to the gym, like I would
Speaker 2: have a tough time staying motivated to train for football,
Speaker 2: because football, you know, with UFC, it's such a violent sport.
Speaker 1: You have to do these hard.
Speaker 2: Things to stay in shape, to stay strong, to stay fast,
Speaker 2: all these things, because if you slacken one, it ends
Speaker 2: up coming back to you. I mean so much so
Speaker 2: that in thanks during Thanksgiving, I was telling my family,
Speaker 2: my mom and dad and my brothers, how you know
Speaker 2: I was gonna hang it up, like I was gonna
Speaker 2: be done. I was starting to prepare for the next chapter.
Speaker 2: But it was so hard to stay motivated. But during
Speaker 2: like those foggy times staying motivated and balancing the pod
Speaker 2: and trying to train and stay in shape for football,
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, am I gonna play this year?
Speaker 1: Am I not gonna play? I feel like it's just something.
Speaker 2: Where it's written down for me on what I'm trying
Speaker 2: to achieve. So from there I'm able to know with
Speaker 2: clarity what I'm accomplishing and if I get if it
Speaker 2: gets too hard for me, it's just asking myself like
Speaker 2: what is it, like, what's actually bothering me? If it's
Speaker 2: too much much going on in my head, Like if
Speaker 2: there's too many things to where I'm too much inside
Speaker 2: the box. Here's a little jim for you. If you're
Speaker 2: inside the box, you can't read the directions, so zooming out,
Speaker 2: getting outside of the box and seeing the whole picture.
Speaker 2: If you can zoom out more, you kind of see
Speaker 2: with clarity, like what's going on, Like, Okay, I have
Speaker 2: too much, I'm too cluttered in this area. Or I
Speaker 2: can usually figure out that I've been sleeping in, or
Speaker 2: not necessarily sleeping in, but laying in my bed longer
Speaker 2: than I should or dragging ass downstairs longer than I
Speaker 2: need to before I go show up for a nine
Speaker 2: am workout, and I'm showing up at like nine to
Speaker 2: forty five, right, And if I know that's jogging me down,
Speaker 2: I can usually ask myself the right question. So I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 2: you just gotta fucking wake up and do your shit
Speaker 2: like you gotta. You gotta set an arm. You gotta
Speaker 2: wake up, whether it's breathing or making the coffee or
Speaker 2: like doing my routine before I show up and get
Speaker 2: there at nine o'clock, have a good workout to where
Speaker 2: I'm doing the workout and I'm not checking my my
Speaker 2: phone and making sure i'm stuff with busting's going all
Speaker 2: right or any of that kind of shit. I feel
Speaker 2: like when it gets foggy up here, I can usually
Speaker 2: identify like what's going on, and it's something.
Speaker 4: It's usually clarity for me.
Speaker 2: Like once I get clarity and what the avenue is,
Speaker 2: that's when I wake up the next morning and try
Speaker 2: and like nip that in the butt, and then that
Speaker 2: usually gives me the momentum that I need to stay
Speaker 2: motivated or or change the direction I need to go.
Speaker 2: Sometimes like you're just on the wrong path and you
Speaker 2: need to figure out something different that you need to do.
Speaker 5: Clarity, clarity, and progress, Yeah, I mean that's where that's
Speaker 5: exactly what you were talking about, just making some sort
Speaker 5: of progress in your lane. What makes you feel alive,
Speaker 5: what makes you feel whole, what makes you feel like
Speaker 5: you got something done is writing. What makes you feel
Speaker 5: alive and feel like you're getting something done, getting clarity.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing too, even just going back to
Speaker 5: a guy who writes for a living, writes songs for
Speaker 5: a living, I mean just as a in human nature,
Speaker 5: as a human being, a pen and a pad is
Speaker 5: the easiest, most successible, cheapest thing you can possibly almost
Speaker 5: get out there. And even just sitting down and feeling
Speaker 5: like you're cluttered a lot of times.
Speaker 4: You know, this guy just asked about being unmotivated.
Speaker 5: A lot of time we feel unmotivated because we are
Speaker 5: so overloaded with what we think we need to do,
Speaker 5: or we have too much junk going on, or we
Speaker 5: are admittedly sleeping in too much, or we're not sleeping enough,
Speaker 5: or we're making bad decisions that are continuing to add
Speaker 5: to the more mental fog. And then even for me too,
Speaker 5: going back to which I didn't touch on earlier, it
Speaker 5: is even just the gratitude waking up every morning feeling
Speaker 5: grateful for what I have, even just the small things.
Speaker 4: I find myself when I'm in in.
Speaker 5: My most grateful state, when I'm continuing to think about
Speaker 5: the little things that I do have, the little wins
Speaker 5: that I do have, the blessings that I do have
Speaker 5: in my life, it's kind of hard to be foggy, negative, unmotivated,
Speaker 5: you know. So that's what helps me.
Speaker 1: I started. I've learned to really zero in on what
Speaker 1: I need right Like sometimes when I'm really depressed, well,
Speaker 1: I'll have a need that I don't realize as a
Speaker 1: need until I really think about it, Like little needs,
Speaker 1: Like every now and then, I need to get in
Speaker 1: my truck and drive to this old country diner that
Speaker 1: I drive to. It's like an hour or outside of
Speaker 1: town that I go clear my thoughts, and it's like
Speaker 1: my way of thinking. I won't listen to the radio.
Speaker 1: I crack the window to hear that wind come in,
Speaker 1: let that weed smoke out at the same time, and
Speaker 1: I'll drive out there just dead, silence, phone off, and
Speaker 1: every now and then I just need that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Every now and then I need to
Speaker 1: go see my uncle. He lives out in the country,
Speaker 1: and I'll just drive out there and just pop up
Speaker 1: and knock on the door. You think I'll wait. They
Speaker 1: always think something's wrong.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I just needed to come see man. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I needed to talk to you about. I
Speaker 1: just felt the need that this is what I'm so
Speaker 1: caught up in. This other shit, this daddy shit, and
Speaker 1: this jelly roll shit, that this husband shit that I just,
Speaker 1: you know, I need to get called on somebody else's ship.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? What's happening around here? You killed
Speaker 1: anything lately because you still cutting the grass? What are
Speaker 1: you doing out here? Old man? You know what I
Speaker 1: give me your ship for a minute. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I need to get away from my shit,
Speaker 1: and that helped me A lot of my depression is
Speaker 1: learning those moments of like if I ever call one
Speaker 1: of y'all and I just start asking you questions, I
Speaker 1: just need to get away from my ship, drag me
Speaker 1: deep into yours.
Speaker 4: Well, which to it?
Speaker 5: Uh, you got to mention too, even what you said earlier,
Speaker 5: you knowing what you need sometimes you need to take
Speaker 5: that ride even but having people around you that know
Speaker 5: what you need, Like you said, your wife takes your
Speaker 5: phone away from just go up there and write you
Speaker 5: need this. Having the people around you that know what
Speaker 5: you need and are willing to, you know, embrace it
Speaker 5: with you and knowing exactly they know you as well
Speaker 5: as you know themselves. Whether that's your significant other, whether
Speaker 5: that's your team, whether that's your business partners, whether that's
Speaker 5: your family, whatever it is, the people around you knowing
Speaker 5: what you need as well.
Speaker 2: Right, if you're somebody who doesn't have people around you
Speaker 2: or someone around you, I think that the common denominator
Speaker 2: of all of our answers to is you end up
Speaker 2: getting You end up getting to the point of the
Speaker 2: conversation you're having with yourself to where you ask yourself
Speaker 2: the right question, or you get to like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: need to go do this. I need to go out
Speaker 2: to my uncle's, I need to call somebody and do this.
Speaker 2: You get to figuring out like what that question is
Speaker 2: that you need to answer to have the clarity. And
Speaker 2: then from there, like you said, you make progress. Like
Speaker 2: once you get progress, like that's what humans usually need
Speaker 2: to begin. And what is just finding some kind of
Speaker 2: progress of some kind of momentum. What do we got next, Alex,
Speaker 2: we can jump into football Live and know you got
Speaker 2: mister tennessee over here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: Come on, baby, It's the best tweet of the year.
Speaker 1: Doctor is underappreciated. I demand more retweets on it today.
Speaker 1: Send us up to stab up the flag bow for me.
Speaker 1: Bet we are a lot of people over their runs
Speaker 1: down for me.
Speaker 2: We're shifting the energy we're getting in the Titans playoff.
Speaker 2: Jelly Roll tweeted last week, I want to be the
Speaker 2: twelfth man for the Titans playoff game.
Speaker 1: I want to stab that sword in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 2: Let's go. I'm so fired up about this year. Tighten
Speaker 2: the fuck up. I had it the part, but like.
Speaker 1: A tighten organization to give a claim of the day
Speaker 1: that they let me stab the sword in the field.
Speaker 1: I went to this so the organization had brought me
Speaker 1: out and put me in the cool suite for the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers game. Yeah right, I was supposed to
Speaker 1: go see Blazing now, but y'all were y'all. I heard
Speaker 1: y'all didn'tant o there. But oh yeah no that's what
Speaker 1: I heard. Yeah no, no, no, that's.
Speaker 3: What I heard.
Speaker 1: By what I said. What it happened was I had
Speaker 1: missed her, but she came to me, like, y'all want
Speaker 1: to take you down to the suite, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to go see him for sure. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's like I went and I seen the pain Train
Speaker 1: was the twelfth Man that day, and he came out
Speaker 1: and put the sward in field. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: what I need to do. I was like, that's what
Speaker 1: I need to do. I need to go out there
Speaker 1: and put the you know somebody right now, man, we
Speaker 1: should call somebody, yeah right now, make it happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nate's to homie. I think I think Nate's the one
Speaker 1: that's been. I got a whole bunch of them. They
Speaker 1: took real good care of us. Some sweet. I couldn't
Speaker 1: bring Bailey, unfortunately because she was out of town week
Speaker 1: four Christmas, but I took the whole band. I brought
Speaker 1: my whole band of some post tour stuff. He went
Speaker 1: up there and got drunk and then we went over
Speaker 1: to kid Rock Sweet and kept getting drunk and it
Speaker 1: was awesome. It was incredible. We were calling Nate Ban,
Speaker 1: shout out the boy Nate band, Let's fucking go. That's
Speaker 1: what I need to stab the baby.
Speaker 10: Yes, I know, yeah exactly, Like, Hey, can I suit
Speaker 10: up this weekend?
Speaker 4: They think you want to suit up this weekend.
Speaker 1: He's on the phone with He's on the phone with
Speaker 1: the other person that's going to be the twelfth man? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: got three minutes dude, Hey, and I do want to
Speaker 1: be out here this weekend. So I just went on this,
Speaker 1: Hey can I be this twelve man? Yeah? So I
Speaker 1: just went on this rant on on on Instagram. On
Speaker 1: the way here. Tech nine got to perform at the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs halftime game. Yes, wow, right, first of all,
Speaker 1: local guy to Kansas City. Just watching him do it.
Speaker 1: Just I mean, we talked that week and he was like,
Speaker 1: I can't even describe my feeling. He just left sound
Speaker 1: check and called me. He's like, this is wild, and
Speaker 1: I was just went on this rant. This is how
Speaker 1: this plays out, because I want you all to remember
Speaker 1: this and bring this back up in a few weeks.
Speaker 1: I hope we beat the Bengals, obviously, and I hope
Speaker 1: they beat the Bills, and I hope we get the
Speaker 1: rematch of the twenty twenty AFC Championship game here in
Speaker 1: Nashville this time. Now here's history. Tech nine and Travis
Speaker 1: o'gwynn hosted my family to the AFC Championship at Arrowhead
Speaker 1: Stadium in twenty twenty. I want to return the favor,
Speaker 1: and I want to host them in Nashville for this one,
Speaker 1: and I want to beat that fucking hass bag, just
Speaker 1: like we had to walk out of Arrowhead Stadium with
Speaker 1: our head down, and Travis was a good sport about it,
Speaker 1: which I hope I'm half the sport he was, because
Speaker 1: I'm going to be going fucking crazy. And I tell
Speaker 1: you something else you can quote on here too. If
Speaker 1: we go to the super Bowl. When we go to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, me and my daughter will be there. Period.
Speaker 1: You already got the tickets. No, but there's not a
Speaker 1: I have a price in mind, head that that I'm
Speaker 1: willing to pay. What are you willing to pay?
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it out loud because I
Speaker 4: got a couple of tickets.
Speaker 1: Now we need to talk.
Speaker 4: Did man willing to pay?
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it out loud, but it's
Speaker 1: the number I have. There's no way we don't get
Speaker 1: in the stadium.
Speaker 4: I believe you just sold your ticket. You sold your
Speaker 4: tickets over me.
Speaker 1: No, we're not.
Speaker 3: We're not. We're not.
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to super Bowl tickets. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: do you hear what I got for them?
Speaker 3: No, we have to.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is we're not allowed to buy our
Speaker 2: super Bowl tickets and then up charge and sell above
Speaker 2: the face value.
Speaker 1: Okay, well our back yeah?
Speaker 4: Well well yeah we can.
Speaker 1: We can throw them to You'll just get a little.
Speaker 2: For the pod, like give you, I will give will
Speaker 2: give you the tickets to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Listen, we're.
Speaker 8: Thirteen year old.
Speaker 3: Might be doing a giveaway for real.
Speaker 2: Honestly, by listening, I think we are going to be
Speaker 2: doing a super Bowl ticket giveaway, so be on the
Speaker 2: lookout for that, Doug.
Speaker 1: I'm you gave these tickets to me. You don't give
Speaker 1: them to y'all. Man, gave them to some fans on Twitter,
Speaker 1: all the boys, the Boys.
Speaker 4: No, we'll get you taken care of.
Speaker 3: Here. We're on the farewell to I know a.
Speaker 1: Couple of people.
Speaker 3: You're calling the favorite y'all wants us to.
Speaker 2: Come out for the fight companion, to do a fight
Speaker 2: companion during the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, we'll do that Saturday before the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Bro, it's during the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's on Sunday.
Speaker 2: It's on during the Super Like you know how they
Speaker 2: watched the fight and then do their fighters and watch them.
Speaker 3: He wants to watch I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go with you if the Titans don't go
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: But the Titans, I know, Taylor's all in.
Speaker 1: What's up because I'm gonna be because I want to
Speaker 1: be at the super Bowl too if they're in it.
Speaker 3: But I could I.
Speaker 1: Could do with I mean I could do it just
Speaker 1: watching it.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, that'd be tough, man. If the Titans are
Speaker 2: in the super Bowl, that would be tough.
Speaker 4: You're sort of watching on the fight the Football Companion.
Speaker 2: Right, I guess it would be called the Football Companion
Speaker 2: Companion with Brendon Shawk.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the Fight Companion in the next month
Speaker 1: or two. I've been talking to him, right, go out there.
Speaker 4: And get lit.
Speaker 3: We were ready to get drunk.
Speaker 4: But I'm finna push the pace.
Speaker 2: Funny man, you're gonna You're gonna be in l A,
Speaker 2: out in l A no matter what.
Speaker 1: For the super bowler in general, just in general during
Speaker 1: that week. I don't want a time stamp it in
Speaker 1: case I'm wrong, but I think I'll be out there
Speaker 1: for the next month's fight. Yeah, I'll just say it.
Speaker 1: I think let's just go to Scottsdale to record the album.
Speaker 1: He was, so, I think I'm gonna be out there
Speaker 1: and to fly to l A and do it. Do
Speaker 1: the is a lot of sign and fight on the
Speaker 1: Fight Companion Anaheim. Yeah, now they're fighting in Houston, but
Speaker 1: I think shop ships in Calaballa. I'm gonna do the
Speaker 1: Fight Companion with them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We were talking about doing it for the National Championship Game,
Speaker 2: but there were so many moving parts that week of
Speaker 2: being cut and not getting cut, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I think I'll be able to come out now,
Speaker 2: you know I just got cut. He'll be okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: let me know. And then I got picked on the
Speaker 2: next day. Hey man, I'm back. I'm back on the team.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll be able to make it because
Speaker 2: see we're talking about before the Colts game, right, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, the way the Coults are playing, Hey, after
Speaker 2: our last game on January ninth, I should be able
Speaker 2: to fly out to LA for the National Championship on
Speaker 2: the tenth. I was like, the only chance it might
Speaker 2: not happen is if we beat the Colts this weekend,
Speaker 2: which the Colts were hot, so it was crazy when
Speaker 2: we upset them and beat the Colts at Indy. And
Speaker 2: so when we beat them, I say, hey man, I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'll be able to make it, because
Speaker 2: it looks like we can make the playoffs. Now, did
Speaker 2: you know we had a four percent chance after that
Speaker 2: ass open in case four percent? We had a four
Speaker 2: The Raiders had a four percent chance of making the
Speaker 2: playoffs after that ass opening.
Speaker 5: Case because of because of other teams needing to win
Speaker 5: and lose. You're saying, or just your guys, you versus them,
Speaker 5: heads up, Joe.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, like when they're going over it, like
Speaker 2: the chances when they're talking about the whole playoff picture,
Speaker 2: the Raiders had a four percent chance to get into
Speaker 2: the playoffs based on all the different variables of wins
Speaker 2: the ball teams lose.
Speaker 4: The Steelers were right, but he was crazy.
Speaker 1: We had two teams in AFC that just kind of
Speaker 1: almost just blind sidingly snuck in the playoffs last game
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 2: Right, and it looks like people were already talking about it.
Speaker 2: But adding those two extra teams, both seven Seeds got
Speaker 2: absolutely destroyed. You think who you think is coming out
Speaker 2: of that Kansas City Bills game.
Speaker 1: I I know you want the Chiefs well, but that
Speaker 1: ass open the Bills are coming out with. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I tell you what I was hoping. I was secretly
Speaker 1: hoping the Steelers would have won and just got Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Correct, because that's the that would have been best. That
Speaker 2: would have definitely been getting.
Speaker 1: Because I love Teching. No, they're my homies. But I
Speaker 1: was secretly go big band. But uh, it didn't. It didn't.
Speaker 1: It didn't pan out for me. I can tell you this.
Speaker 1: I think I think that uh they'll play at Kansas City, Right, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, it's hard to walk out of
Speaker 1: Arrowhead with a wind. You've been Arrowhead a few times,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's nuts.
Speaker 1: But the Mafia is gonna travel Oh yeah, no, for
Speaker 1: sure they travel here. That's all walked out of Arrowhead.
Speaker 2: We just got done ripping up that logo midfield, breaking
Speaker 2: it down and got them cheeks clapped. Well to score
Speaker 2: that game. That's my first game back. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, I think I think it ends up being
Speaker 2: the Titan. But the rest of you voice, I think
Speaker 2: it's the Titans and the.
Speaker 1: Chiefs, and I think it ends up being the Titans
Speaker 1: and the Green Bay Packers. I said it, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying, hey, Blas, say you feeling about that? Sucks to
Speaker 4: be wrong.
Speaker 1: I hate it for you.
Speaker 4: Hey, Niners started fast last night, man, I was fired up.
Speaker 3: They look good.
Speaker 2: But the way the Cowboys were coming back at the end,
Speaker 2: they just they got to play complimentary football little bit better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 6: You could also blame that on like the fact that
Speaker 6: they got They had a couple of injuries through the
Speaker 6: game too, and then you could always you could always
Speaker 6: count on Jimmy giving you a slight bit of hope.
Speaker 6: I mean he he tends to just to get careless
Speaker 6: with the ball and give you one that you could
Speaker 6: build on.
Speaker 4: So like Oprah, is there any truth the l ball?
Speaker 1: You get old MIKEE move to Dallas. He don't throw
Speaker 1: picks like that. I'm joking, is it?
Speaker 4: I just heard? Hey, yeah, we got to cut that out. Sorry, Jimmy, Jimmy,
Speaker 4: I ain't mean that.
Speaker 3: I was just making a joke.
Speaker 5: By are they enforcing the vaccination for the I heard?
Speaker 1: Listen? You know me, I'm obviously like the worst rumor
Speaker 1: mill ever. But from what I hear. From what I
Speaker 1: hear is there is that there is the backup and
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be to Dallas due to some COVID ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he pulled up some article about it.
Speaker 2: So Jelly just looks like he has all the conspiracies,
Speaker 2: like all the rumors.
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I heard. I'm up at five
Speaker 1: in the morning stone reading stuff. Yeah, some article here
Speaker 1: that might back what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope that because the tickets are it's a way
Speaker 1: easier flight from here to Dallas.
Speaker 4: This here, Dallas is the backup right, Yeah, yeah, Jerry's wild.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, man, that was a bad I can probably
Speaker 1: get up, get a couple of tickets in a suite
Speaker 1: over there. I got some country music buddies that got
Speaker 1: some pool over there.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: It should be the Raiders coming to Nashville this weekend.
Speaker 2: That's what it should be. The Raiders beat themselves, bro,
Speaker 2: we beat ourselves.
Speaker 1: I don't like ugly. I don't like these I don't
Speaker 1: like ugly. They cuts you did you watch the game offs? Playoff?
Speaker 1: Will it might have made? It? Might have made it
Speaker 1: somewhere down arguable? I don't like ugly. Man, can't regret that.
Speaker 3: Arguable that the boys lost their juice when they come playoff?
Speaker 1: Will you.
Speaker 3: Four and one?
Speaker 2: Six and seven? There were six and six coming into
Speaker 2: the playoff game. I think six and seven. It's arguable.
Speaker 2: It's debatable.
Speaker 4: What if? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What are you worried about? With the Bengals this week?
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow and swagged Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to watch the Hendrickson throughout the week
Speaker 2: with his concussion protocols, but their defense is solid, Henderson
Speaker 2: leading their team in sacks he'll actually be going up
Speaker 2: against the boy.
Speaker 1: That'll be a fun matchup to watch, strong bull rusher.
Speaker 2: So the boy, yeah, he'll get he'll uh yeah, this
Speaker 2: fucking play right here, dude, God where the ref blue
Speaker 2: the whistle in the middle of the snap and the
Speaker 2: Raiders stopped playing and then the guy catches the touchdown
Speaker 2: pass all of a sudden, he's wide open. But everybody
Speaker 2: forgets that the whistle is blown. Everybody's like, oh, he
Speaker 2: would have caught the touchdown pass anyway, but the whistle was.
Speaker 3: Blown mid play.
Speaker 2: And that Burrow was was uh yeah, the dB stopped
Speaker 2: running and then he catches the ball.
Speaker 1: Oh he was wide open. Yeah, because the whistle was blown.
Speaker 1: I'll do that.
Speaker 2: That is some bullshit, though, Okay, purther rules and inadvertent whistle,
Speaker 2: some random mess whistle in the play, the play is
Speaker 2: dead and they redo the play, right.
Speaker 3: We're bringing up the rule right here there we go.
Speaker 4: Highlight it for me.
Speaker 2: When an official sounds his whistle while the ball is
Speaker 2: still in play, the ball becomes dead immediately, Jelly. If
Speaker 2: the ball is in is in player possession, the team
Speaker 2: in possession may elect to put the ball in play,
Speaker 2: or it has been declared dead or to replay the down.
Speaker 3: If the ball is loose, hang on, hang on, let me.
Speaker 1: Better at reading ads than you are in NFL rules.
Speaker 3: Are you able to read that? It's god, you know,
Speaker 3: the just got the red fun.
Speaker 2: If the ball is a loose ball resulting from a fumble,
Speaker 2: backward pass or an illegal pass forward, we don't need
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 3: It was the first one, all right, we got that.
Speaker 1: We can that's that's what we can use for the cliffs.
Speaker 5: Is if the ball is in play, the ball is
Speaker 5: dead when the whistle sounds yes, yes, run it back and.
Speaker 3: You got to replay the down. Now you don't know
Speaker 3: what happens.
Speaker 1: They should bring you back and run it back.
Speaker 4: Right, Get Willy out there spinning about the way.
Speaker 5: How about the way the Dallas how about the way
Speaker 5: the Dallas game ended?
Speaker 3: You're not the way I will.
Speaker 6: But granted, does Cincinnati have an argument then if they
Speaker 6: do make that call because technically.
Speaker 1: It wasn't out of bounce, if they what's up?
Speaker 6: Because technically it wasn't out of bounds, which is.
Speaker 3: Why they run, they would have to replay the down.
Speaker 6: Right, But then fans will probably be upset, right because oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be Yeah, they'd be pissed because you know,
Speaker 2: their argument that they're doing is wide open, and that
Speaker 2: would have been a touchdown no matter what. I hate
Speaker 2: to break it to them, they're wrong, but they replay
Speaker 2: third and four. You don't know what happens after that.
Speaker 2: Could they get a first down? Yes they could, obviously.
Speaker 2: I'm saying the.
Speaker 4: Boys, the Raiders are stopping them. They're kicking a field goal.
Speaker 2: And then at the end of the game, when the
Speaker 2: Boys are driving, all they have to do is make
Speaker 2: a field goal.
Speaker 3: They don't have to score a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Tighten up, tighten up.
Speaker 4: But the Raiders would have been coming to Nashville this week.
Speaker 1: What's just what we needed to do. I'm so sick
Speaker 1: of you wearing the fucking black You're back home, dude.
Speaker 4: We just got to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I know, the playoff Willie shirts. But after that the
Speaker 1: Bengals game starts. Can we get some blue back on
Speaker 1: the board.
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 3: How more?
Speaker 2: This just to let people know we we got to
Speaker 2: give a few thousand dollars to Derek Carr shared, so
Speaker 2: I'm just letting people know we sold how many five hundred,
Speaker 2: about five hundred were still about five hundred.
Speaker 4: Of these things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the you know, what's up, Mike, What were
Speaker 1: you about to bring up with the forty?
Speaker 4: Oh? I said? Dallas?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how the Dallas?
Speaker 4: How the Dallas came ended such Prescott, what I bet poor.
Speaker 1: Ship situational football by the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And I think eighty percent of the people didn't realize
Speaker 5: that what the line, the judge or the ref umpire,
Speaker 5: whatever position he was in, had to come and had
Speaker 5: to touch the ball before it could be snapped.
Speaker 4: Correct. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I think that is a rule. Somebody you'll have to
Speaker 2: fact check me. I direct, but I that was a delusion.
Speaker 9: That the reason why they make him read a rule,
Speaker 9: the reason why that is the umpire needs to establish
Speaker 9: a neutral zone.
Speaker 4: Yeah wear it actually? Okay, Yeah, yeah, we're like, okay.
Speaker 2: We got when that happens, here's what you gotta do.
Speaker 2: He slides, Dak slides right. Dak needs to immediately get
Speaker 2: up just like you've seen Larry Fitzgerald do on the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Because this is this is going to be Taylor and
Speaker 2: I was talking about Friday tape and Vaible and situational football.
Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboy game is going to be the Friday
Speaker 2: tape based on the situational football that they were playing.
Speaker 2: Dak needs to slide and immediately get up and run
Speaker 2: to that to that ref and hand him the football,
Speaker 2: or if somebody else is going to do it, like
Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald would run and grab the ball from somebody,
Speaker 2: like if there's an old lineman.
Speaker 3: Grab it.
Speaker 2: Give the ball to the because you never don't set
Speaker 2: the ball down yourself, number one, like you just move
Speaker 2: it up a yard. Yeah, Like the ref has to
Speaker 2: has to adjust the football. Never toss it to them.
Speaker 2: Never count on a ref to catch a football. They're
Speaker 2: on athletic you know what I mean. You hand the
Speaker 2: ref the ball so they can place it. And then
Speaker 2: they would have had time, they would have had a
Speaker 2: second left. Not saying they would have won the game,
Speaker 2: but that was a that was a dramatic ending.
Speaker 5: I was like, it was dramatic and it was anti
Speaker 5: climactic because everybody I was like, oh, I wanted to
Speaker 5: see a you know, at least.
Speaker 2: One more believe the Niners weren't protecting the sidelines more,
Speaker 2: they were just giving them chunk plays. Bro just getting
Speaker 2: it down there.
Speaker 6: They were talking about like that's you don't want to
Speaker 6: start a two minute drive. You couldn't start it any
Speaker 6: better because they they started with the hooking ladder and
Speaker 6: they gained like right, I think like forty yards and.
Speaker 4: Then they went ring that out to the sideline.
Speaker 6: The sideline, It's like you couldn't have asked for a
Speaker 6: better start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh they were.
Speaker 3: There was like, oh shit, they might pull this off.
Speaker 1: Watching the Niners when the Cowboys play each other with
Speaker 1: so nostalgic.
Speaker 4: Of like the nineties.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like I was warped in time with
Speaker 1: this whole playoff bracket for the NFC here is just
Speaker 1: like it is just insanely just nostalgic of like that era.
Speaker 2: I had to call my dad, my old man up
Speaker 2: because back when I was growing up, I was a
Speaker 2: Cowboys fan. I was like, yo, in this wild that
Speaker 2: the Niners and Cowboys are like playing again. It was
Speaker 2: bro was nostalgic.
Speaker 1: I got a question, do they only use one football
Speaker 1: the whole time the whole game or do they change after.
Speaker 4: The kickers got their own ball that they used.
Speaker 1: That was my morning stoner thought. Before I even knew
Speaker 1: I was coming on the podcast, which, in true Will
Speaker 1: Compton fashion, he gave me a forty seven minute warning.
Speaker 2: But always in forever, the boys, Always in forever, Bubba,
Speaker 2: you can be here in an hour.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's stoner thought. Think about it.
Speaker 4: They all look the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one.
Speaker 4: He's just saying, all that would be wild.
Speaker 1: What if it gets scuffed, somebody steps doesn't the flight
Speaker 1: that was my morning wake. That's kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 8: Super Bowl, what do you need to what's the requirement
Speaker 8: to get a ring? Like you get a ring for
Speaker 8: the Raiders.
Speaker 4: The three games. You're saying that, no clue.
Speaker 2: I think if you're on the roster at any point
Speaker 2: in the year, you're part of it. No, I really don't.
Speaker 2: People are People are telling me that I was going
Speaker 2: to get a ring. So that's when I was like,
Speaker 2: I need these boys to win. I wanted On to win,
Speaker 2: then I needed On to win. Just make it. Come
Speaker 2: back at the Super Bowl party they usually have been
Speaker 2: what in August the follow the next year, it's like
Speaker 2: going back and be like.
Speaker 10: Year ten live broadcast for a couple get it on
Speaker 10: the bus, take the bus and not even on the squad.
Speaker 10: When do I get my turn with the Lombardi. Yeah,
Speaker 10: when do I give my show to Lombardi?
Speaker 3: I heard we all get a chance with this called
Speaker 3: the guy you called earlier.
Speaker 4: I he's he's with the Titans. Whatever, call that guy.
Speaker 4: He don't forget the the Titans win.
Speaker 1: Now you got the Lombardi sitting on here. Yeah listen,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, I gotta be on that podcast.
Speaker 1: Put in now.
Speaker 2: Just cigars and piggyback and whiskey, pig whiskey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just celebrating. I've never wanted to do one more.
Speaker 4: Huh, whistle pig then I say whistle big whiskeys.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was already dreaming, mans already dreaming. Yeah, just vies, bro,
Speaker 2: that'd be a good time.
Speaker 3: We have anything else? Do we hit on? Do we
Speaker 3: hit on all the playoff stuff?
Speaker 8: Pretty much?
Speaker 1: You guys?
Speaker 8: Really you don't think Tom's got a shot here?
Speaker 4: Of course? Thomas, course, Thomas, dude.
Speaker 2: I think when he said Packers are coming out and
Speaker 2: know I know the Niners are going to Green Bay.
Speaker 3: I do think the Niners.
Speaker 4: Have a shot.
Speaker 2: It's just I'll tell you what if if a Rod
Speaker 2: Davante is connecting early and often, it's gonna be It's
Speaker 2: gonna be tough to get out of Green Bay, Dude,
Speaker 2: it really is, because they do they do. They run
Speaker 2: the ball well and they play defense. If they're not
Speaker 2: able to uh stop the stop the Packers, they're.
Speaker 4: Gonna have a long day.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters who wins out of Arizona
Speaker 2: in l A. I think the Buccaneers will take care
Speaker 2: of that and it'll be a it'll be a fun
Speaker 2: NFC championship between the Buccaneers and out of respect for
Speaker 2: bost whoever comes out of the Packer forty nine ers game.
Speaker 1: Do you think if the Chiefs end up coming to
Speaker 1: Nashville at some point, Jackson Mahomes being on the sideline
Speaker 1: will play factor at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We want Jackson Mahomes to perform at halftime. Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think I think based on the things we've said on
Speaker 3: the pod.
Speaker 1: That's probably why Patrick unfollowed me on Twitter.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: We'll have to get to the bottom of it. Stuff stuff,
Speaker 1: But it is what it is, man.
Speaker 2: You can't you know, we'll just talk about it. We'll
Speaker 2: keep it about the Bills versus Chiefs. I actually I
Speaker 2: think the Bills are gonna win just based on that
Speaker 2: ass whop and they put on those boys the other night,
Speaker 2: the Patriots, I mean the Patriots, Like, yeah, they don't
Speaker 2: have all the weapons, they don't have this and that,
Speaker 2: but you know, based on how you've been coached by
Speaker 2: Vrabel and everything else, that they.
Speaker 3: Have team keys.
Speaker 2: They have what they take away, they try and take
Speaker 2: away their best thing. They weren't taking away nothing, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like they just couldn't stop him.
Speaker 2: And Josh Allen looked like a man out there. That
Speaker 2: dude's slinging the rock running around. He's tough to beat.
Speaker 2: Man Bill's look tough. If they if I mean, who
Speaker 2: even knows what the game is gonna look like against
Speaker 2: Kansas City just bombs over Bagdad. You're just slinging the
Speaker 2: rock all around. It's looking like what I say on Twitter,
Speaker 2: an aerial dogfight. They both put up in the forties
Speaker 2: in the game, like you're in a shootout. But if
Speaker 2: one of them beats the shit out of the other,
Speaker 2: it's like, that's gonna be an interesting game in Nashville
Speaker 2: because obviously I think the Titans are gonna beat the Bengals.
Speaker 2: We're all boys in this in this bus. Man, is
Speaker 2: anybody in this fucking bus for the Bengals. No, I
Speaker 2: don't know why I looked at you, Alex. I can
Speaker 2: see you being a cynical motherfucker dude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just rooting for chaos.
Speaker 1: I have a guy that works on our management team
Speaker 1: that his friends with c J for the Bengals, and uh,
Speaker 1: one of my security guys is a Bengals fan on tour.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a interesting week for us. Have you
Speaker 1: seen him yet? No? No, I won't talk to him
Speaker 1: this week at all. Yes, who speak to you? And you
Speaker 1: know what's even more fun? Chee who Big ch Who
Speaker 1: Who Big? My big song on? But uh, I got
Speaker 1: you who tickets but not with me tickets?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he's up there. By God, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: there this weekend? Oh for sure? Yeah for sure. Where
Speaker 1: we're at that influencer suite, I hope. So we're getting
Speaker 1: light on the phone. We got to call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta get ahold of the name.
Speaker 1: We secured Mike Man influencer sweet ticket. This is We're
Speaker 1: not asking for a lot here, just a little TV time.
Speaker 1: I hit up a J Rob I shot in the
Speaker 1: eyes and a text message. I say, hey, what's up
Speaker 1: with them? Sideline passes. Yeah, yeah, we need some of
Speaker 1: them too. They come with the fam Florential swite. You
Speaker 1: can get us in there, do they?
Speaker 4: They gave me the field passes last time was fire.
Speaker 4: I gotta bounce out, are you? Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: Three fifteen, three seventeen. Bro, Let's see if Nate answers
Speaker 2: real quick, so Scott, this could change it for all
Speaker 2: of us. We could all costs five minutes. Crazy dude
Speaker 2: knows I'm on the pot right now, just acting tough,
Speaker 2: flexing on me.
Speaker 4: He usually answers that.
Speaker 1: He usually answers.
Speaker 4: Something must be going on. Yeah, he must not have service.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you coming through.
Speaker 4: Oh thank you, Bom.
Speaker 3: What are you about to do?
Speaker 1: Go pick up little man?
Speaker 4: Yeah, hang out with him.
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Speaker 1: But it's like I told you, energy never dies. A
Speaker 1: transfers and that was the quote that helped me through
Speaker 1: my father's passing the most, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: When it was like it's almost like a pair of
Speaker 1: down shift, like a passing of the guard to a degree,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's everything that was ever
Speaker 1: learned now bestows upon us, and it's transferred into us,
Speaker 1: and that energy is now our energy for us to
Speaker 1: carry on. And you got a kid on the way,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So eventually, as the cycle
Speaker 1: of life continues, you pass the energy a little by
Speaker 1: little lawn and then eventually you give all the energy
Speaker 1: you got and you go and then they passed the
Speaker 1: energy on and that's how we live.
Speaker 4: Forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're immortalized by the stories we tell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the stories that are told.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the shitty part is is like, you know,
Speaker 2: she had at least a few more decades left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean, like a blood clot
Speaker 4: is just so don't feel them coming over, don't know
Speaker 4: they're there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're you're texting an hour ago with her
Speaker 2: and then you know you're just not anymore.
Speaker 1: That was the part that broke my heart the most.
Speaker 1: Whenever I seen you post you was like suddenly and unexpectedly.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's always the one that hurts the
Speaker 1: hardest man. Yeah, you know, yeah, man, but because like
Speaker 1: the way my mother has lived her whole life, God forbid,
Speaker 1: she could die right now and I would be it
Speaker 1: would be sudden, but I'd be like, man, old Bird
Speaker 1: was a tough pitch though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Really, when you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, where it's like, see, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: different when it's the other way, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I think too.
Speaker 2: What makes me sad, not just like for myself, but
Speaker 2: just in general is she cried when we told her
Speaker 2: that she was going to be a grandma. So she
Speaker 2: out of like all the and this is no slight
Speaker 2: at my dad or Charles's parents or nothing like that.
Speaker 2: But my mom was probably the most excited grandparent and
Speaker 2: so I know she would have been you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know she.
Speaker 3: Would have been.
Speaker 1: I hate doing this voice. I know she would have been,
Speaker 1: you know, the one that was like, sorry, my bad, brother,
Speaker 1: I didn't know we were alive. I just was, you know,
Speaker 1: being I thought we were off camera for a second.
Speaker 1: I was just talking.
Speaker 8: H h.
Speaker 4: Ship. That was a weird one. No, that's my bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, no one everyone's don't be fucking sorry,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you just it just sucks. Man. They had
Speaker 2: just built their their new house, small house on like
Speaker 2: my grandparents a lot, my dad's parents, they had a
Speaker 2: lot in uh small town of del shut out Delge.
Speaker 2: But she just got done building that house and she
Speaker 2: fucking is somebody who did a lot of that shit too,
Speaker 2: like built the fucking house, nailed palms inside the drywall.
Speaker 2: Because she's she's a Catholic school principal. So she just
Speaker 2: felt like it brought is that her connection with the
Speaker 2: Catholic church? You posted yes, okay, yeah, because you know
Speaker 2: people were asking about how they can donate her help
Speaker 2: and stuff, and it's like, my mom would always want
Speaker 2: everything to go to the church.
Speaker 1: Confidence you said it with I was like, okay, she
Speaker 1: must have been a real woman of faith.
Speaker 2: Oh bro, yeah, and I think, uh, you just get
Speaker 2: sad because I know my dad. He has his good
Speaker 2: days and bad days. But yeah, everyone says it comes
Speaker 2: in waves.
Speaker 12: And I'm sorry I brought that titleway. Yeah, you're really good.
Speaker 12: You're good man, like, I just love you. And when
Speaker 12: he was off, I was like, well, we're not feeling
Speaker 12: how you doing man? You know, no, it's I don't
Speaker 12: want to cry with you today neither, for it's.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: At one part I was able to kind of keep
Speaker 1: it together a little longer, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then I kind of suck it up. You know.
Speaker 2: It's, uh, you just sad man, Like I'm sad selfishly,
Speaker 2: and I'm just sad for her, you know, I'm just
Speaker 2: sad for everybody.
Speaker 1: And then you know your old man like being able
Speaker 1: to identify that the wheel is so such an important
Speaker 1: part of the grieving process. You know, some people just
Speaker 1: can't even just vocalize the simple like it's so important
Speaker 1: just to be able to say, I'm just sad, and
Speaker 1: there's gonna be moments where you're just gonna be angry.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be moments where you're called the stages of grief.
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody fucking rattled these off to you already,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, you'll go through them all.
Speaker 1: You'll go through the anger, the sadness that now, all
Speaker 1: of that is just a part of it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And uh, and then there comes not
Speaker 1: a peace, but there's there comes and like acceptance to
Speaker 1: it at the end, you know, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: just but it's just sad man.
Speaker 4: And I love you, brother. I love you too. Bro.
Speaker 2: No, I don't uh, you know, I don't mind talking
Speaker 2: about it and it being some the whatever. I've gotten
Speaker 2: so many messages from people's you know, of it helping them.
Speaker 2: I feel like they kind of like, oh, helps me
Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But it's one of the reasons I talk about my
Speaker 1: dad so much. My dad could not talk about his
Speaker 1: dad or mother without crying. And it's because he wouldn't
Speaker 1: talk about him, so the few times he would actually
Speaker 1: vocalize it about him, he'd choke up and just be
Speaker 1: like kind of like Forrest Gump. It's all I gotta
Speaker 1: say about that. You know, it's like he just wouldn't
Speaker 1: actually accept the emotion of it. And I want to
Speaker 1: be able to talk about my dad with a smile
Speaker 1: one day. Now we're three years in and I still
Speaker 1: choke up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's turning in the I hate you, fucking
Speaker 7: hate you.
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with you, like I hope.
Speaker 2: I know I can, like I know I'm able to
Speaker 2: do that when this stuff comes in waves like I
Speaker 2: hadn't had one of those kind of waves.
Speaker 1: And well maybe I'm late to the party. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to keep referring to it as child. Is
Speaker 1: it a boy or girl?
Speaker 4: It's a girl having a baby girl.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought I knew that, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to fuck it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to put up you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyways, you know, it's like the good news
Speaker 1: is and dealing with it now. There will be days
Speaker 1: she'll be able to tell stories about her grandmother to
Speaker 1: her with a smile, and that's what's important to me.
Speaker 1: We watched yesterday the Sad Movie. Because of snow days,
Speaker 1: we've just been doing this movie thing was Big Fish.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it? Anybody's seen big Fish Classical?
Speaker 4: One of those classical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4: You should watch it. Man, It's just a gem. And
Speaker 4: it was. He says.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite quotes there was, we are immortalized
Speaker 1: by the stories that are told about us, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like it's kind of that thing
Speaker 1: where it's like the stories that you'll be able to
Speaker 1: tell your daughter about her grandmother will be what immortalizes her,
Speaker 1: you know, and the cool thing about what we do,
Speaker 1: and this is the blessing to me and you have
Speaker 1: that our generation has that our parents generation didn't have.
Speaker 1: We are immortalized through that. My daughter will watch these,
Speaker 1: she will show my daughter daughter daughter will show these
Speaker 1: to her kid many moons after me and Bailey are
Speaker 1: even gone. It's like, hey, this was your great great
Speaker 1: great grandfather. This She'll be on YouTube forever. Dog. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We're fucking like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Somebody something, because listen, I've got lost in
Speaker 1: a lot of stupid YouTube wormholes. I give anything for
Speaker 1: one of them to have been my great grandfather, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And kind of see what kind
Speaker 1: of weird fucking philosophies he had, you know. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's like your mother and podcasts like this and stories
Speaker 1: like this will be immortalized for your daughter, and that's
Speaker 1: stuff will carry on forever. Dog, and this is it's important,
Speaker 1: and it's a blessing. Man and man, as your friend,
Speaker 1: I'm sad and sorry that I didn't even make it
Speaker 1: up to Missouri.
Speaker 4: Oh you're all right, man, I said, Yeah, I've truly
Speaker 4: felt everybody supporting everything I said.
Speaker 1: I made sure to send my love immediately, but I
Speaker 1: just was like me and a wife.
Speaker 2: Like man, yeah, and you know too, like there's just
Speaker 2: there's not much other than you know, saying words that
Speaker 2: because it doesn't fix the problem that that happens.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring me a hug. It's the
Speaker 1: only reason I wanted to come. But I got you
Speaker 1: one today. So yeah, we'll be even.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll have another good one after this breaking each
Speaker 4: other down. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think we're that much closer now.
Speaker 4: Yeah they do.
Speaker 1: Hey, bros, to cry together, stay together.
Speaker 2: Amen, Amen, Bubba, you know what I'm saying, But uh,
Speaker 2: I forget what I was gonna say next. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: hug your moms boys. Yeah, yeah, you're old man too good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's again you just get sad for there's so many
Speaker 2: other factors, give her the grandma coffee cup and stuff,
Speaker 2: and you just you hate it because there was like,
Speaker 2: you know, they're getting ready for that next chapter and
Speaker 2: getting ready for it hard, like thinking about stepping down
Speaker 2: from being a principal. She's got that new house, baby
Speaker 2: was coming. She would just brag, like almost annoyingly brag
Speaker 2: about how she built the goddamn house.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Those are like the one liners that Taylor will refer
Speaker 2: to in the eulogy, Like I would just say all
Speaker 2: these things, and I'm like weeping through this eulogy, right,
Speaker 2: and you know, I'll just talk about how big of
Speaker 2: a heart she had and how you know, it's how
Speaker 2: she always had everybody's back and she was this and
Speaker 2: then I was like, you know, she was awful. She
Speaker 2: was also mean ast shit too. We'd all just sit
Speaker 2: there and laugh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: You just hate you just hate it because I.
Speaker 2: Know we'll have our daughter and I know I'm going
Speaker 2: to just be talking about my mom and you're trying
Speaker 2: to tell her what Grandma's like, but she'll actually never
Speaker 2: comprehend her, really know, or be taking it as serious
Speaker 2: as I'm taking it telling her probably until she gets older.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Then she'll want to know
Speaker 1: that's right. She'll sit you down and tell me about
Speaker 1: grandma again. Right, And that's cool.
Speaker 2: Get to that maturity when you get older and then
Speaker 2: you realize, like why your parents were their way they
Speaker 2: word to you growing up and everybody was around you,
Speaker 2: and then you get intrigued about those old stories about
Speaker 2: your grandparents and everything I want to know about it.
Speaker 1: I just turned twenty one in December, and I even
Speaker 1: as old as I am now twenty one, forever baby
Speaker 1: old enough to drink, and I went and I still
Speaker 1: to this day, about once every three months that need.
Speaker 1: I'll have that need to go to my mother's house
Speaker 1: and I'll just sit down with her and ask her
Speaker 1: to tell me the story she told me when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, just because I want to hear them
Speaker 1: again and remember them fresh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that to me, that's probably like that moment.
Speaker 1: And I tell you what, she don't watch this podcast,
Speaker 1: I hope, but I take my phone down. This might
Speaker 1: be something for you to think about spend when you
Speaker 1: spend time with your father. Is I take my phone
Speaker 1: now and I'll put the voice memos on and I'll
Speaker 1: set my phone down and get her talking. She'll never
Speaker 1: know it. I've got hours on my phone put in
Speaker 1: my drop box. Now I've just heard telling these old
Speaker 1: stories about working the Shoneyes car hop back in the sixties.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like these
Speaker 1: just super cool last stories that are like now, I've
Speaker 1: got them in my phone forever. So on Bailey's later,
Speaker 1: when Bailey actually gives a fuck and she's like, tell
Speaker 1: me about more about what grandma you used to do,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh check, Ust'll let her tell you book.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'll just listen to her
Speaker 1: just rant on about these old stories. So that's the
Speaker 1: advice I give to anybody I know it has an
Speaker 1: elder parent, brother, you think they're you know, could die
Speaker 1: or you know in that wherever they're at in their life.
Speaker 1: I will tell you this, we have too much technology
Speaker 1: not to capture the moment. And that's what I learned
Speaker 1: from everybody. But my biggest regret with my father died,
Speaker 1: I spent those four months bedside with him, four months
Speaker 1: every day, four solid months before he died, knowing he
Speaker 1: was gonna die inevitably four months. Not one time was
Speaker 1: I smart enough to pull my phone out and record
Speaker 1: one of those conversations that will live with me forever,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm just just as simple as a
Speaker 1: notes in the phone voice memo.
Speaker 4: I know, man, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: So moving moving forward. That's my advice everybody. Next time
Speaker 1: you want your pops and get him rouled up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get him rouled out. Yeah, thet I'm on the
Speaker 2: podcast that stuff. Dude, I've thought about that. I have
Speaker 2: have him come in here and talk about your advice
Speaker 2: from somebody else out there. I'm not gonna say who
Speaker 2: I thought, because I don't want to get it wrong,
Speaker 2: but somebody out there had tweeted or something get your
Speaker 2: parents on a podcast, just because it's kind of like
Speaker 2: all the storytelling and it's like a biography of them
Speaker 2: just being on the podcast and talking about stories and
Speaker 2: everything like that.
Speaker 1: But I do think that's a good idea.
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna do a podcast this year and
Speaker 4: Donald Bill on here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bring them home. I want to hear about the
Speaker 1: story about the weight room. Every time I see the
Speaker 1: picture of you posting there with your dad in that
Speaker 1: old weight room and you're like it's where it all started,
Speaker 1: it's like a moment for me, it's like, Okay, it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Remember I hit you that text? For me,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, fucking is this where you was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the old spot. We talked about it once, Like
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, dude, I'm gonna start a podcast this year,
Speaker 1: and my first guest will probably be my mom. I
Speaker 1: love that Brona ever come in and just ran for
Speaker 1: two hours and tell these old wild ass stores.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's awesome. No, I think that's my dad would
Speaker 2: love that. By the way, you asking about all that stuff,
Speaker 2: that was actually the weekend. Where did I get is
Speaker 2: that when I gave him the truck? But I knew
Speaker 2: I was being conscious about going and working out with
Speaker 2: him and filming us, telling my mom and dad because
Speaker 2: I would always tell charl like I need to take
Speaker 2: more pictures and YadA YadA. I am really happy that
Speaker 2: we had our wedding and because that was like the
Speaker 2: greatest That was like the greatest time, but also makes
Speaker 2: it like you have all these awesome memories, like she
Speaker 2: had such a great life, right and you have all
Speaker 2: these awesome memories like the wedding and everything else. I
Speaker 2: feel like I'll like look at those pictures and you're
Speaker 2: just since they were so great, it also makes it
Speaker 2: that much more sad because you have so much invested
Speaker 2: in emotionally with that person.
Speaker 4: But that's also a good thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm just spewing and talking, but I
Speaker 2: do think that for people listening to that grieve and
Speaker 2: just have stuff in the basement, I do think it's
Speaker 2: important to talk and fucking be vulnerable and and uh
Speaker 2: you know, break down apparently every now and then and
Speaker 2: just talk about how they're feeling and everything else, because
Speaker 2: that stuff does help.
Speaker 3: Even you guys might not feel awkward.
Speaker 2: But when I do that, something like being emotional and
Speaker 2: crying in front of people has always been something that
Speaker 2: is awkward for me. So when that's the how it happens,
Speaker 2: and then I'm pulling back and feeling awkward, like that's
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff I feel like you need to
Speaker 2: go through.
Speaker 4: I feel like to.
Speaker 2: Get more in tune with yourself or vulnerabilities and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 13: I don't know it helps me tears. Being here helps
Speaker 13: me tears express talking so much. Tears express what words cannot.
Speaker 13: There's there's not always a word for everything. That dictionary
Speaker 13: is small when you think about it, man, Yeah, you
Speaker 13: know it's like that.
Speaker 1: When you really really pipe it down to it, that
Speaker 1: dictionary thandog. Sometimes there's just a lot more that not
Speaker 1: more to be expressed than words can actually articulate. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the the the the feel of letting
Speaker 1: that out. I'll tell you why I do it. I
Speaker 1: just want to. I just want to be able to
Speaker 1: talk about Dad one day as easy as I talk
Speaker 1: about the Titans playing football. And I know the only
Speaker 1: way to do that is work through it, right Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just know it's like everything else in life,
Speaker 1: you just got to work through it. So it's just
Speaker 1: like being very honest and open about it as much
Speaker 1: as I can be. Yeah, you know, but I didn't
Speaker 1: mean to drag us there. But I'm glad we got there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all good.
Speaker 2: I never think that it's gonna go there because I've
Speaker 2: been able to have conversations.
Speaker 4: About it all. There's no crime in baseball, no c
Speaker 4: so that's what we were raised which.
Speaker 1: Is on the list of class that's a class. I
Speaker 1: was just thinking that it's on the list. But when
Speaker 1: she told me that Forrest Gump was a class, I
Speaker 1: was like, pipe down, kid, this is fucking you're making
Speaker 1: pipe down kid. You're making it sound like I'm making
Speaker 1: you watch fucking fucking old movie that had no words.
Speaker 1: You've had some gyms today, man, Thank you.
Speaker 4: I just worked out and I haven't eaten, so I
Speaker 4: didn't know what i'd be worth.
Speaker 1: You have. You can tell you have that gift of
Speaker 1: going and just writing.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Whenever I write stuff now I think I might just
Speaker 2: give it to Jelly, But hey, look this over.
Speaker 1: Tell you what you think of this.
Speaker 3: How would you word it a little bit differently?
Speaker 1: Did you better stop? I'd give anything to be able
Speaker 1: to tweet the way you tweet. You're on fire. Listen.
Speaker 1: My nutrition is, My nutrition is. That's living with me,
Speaker 1: helping me lose this weight. Thinks you were the funniest
Speaker 1: dude on earth.
Speaker 14: He is like, yeah, he does shout out Ian Laio
Speaker 14: and George Lockhart, but yeah, they were like I told
Speaker 14: him earlier, it's like, you want to be here for breakfast.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll be late.
Speaker 4: I'm going to go and hang out, play off Willie
Speaker 4: and we go laugh.
Speaker 1: He just said, Lol, I have so much fun on
Speaker 1: that app. Dude. Yeah, that app loves you. Man. They
Speaker 1: got a mixed bag with me.
Speaker 4: They fuck with me sometimes sometimes that's.
Speaker 3: Part of it.
Speaker 2: That's why that whole embracing and finding the humor and
Speaker 2: ship like to me, I, you know, a lot of
Speaker 2: that conversation with yourself and everything like that can come
Speaker 2: off dumb ship, like those social media apps like Instagram
Speaker 2: and Twitter and all this stuff, because comments can get
Speaker 2: can get inside your head. But uh again, like all
Speaker 2: this stuff, when you get through it and you're able
Speaker 2: to look back and see how petty some of that
Speaker 2: stuff was, the way you thought about it, and just
Speaker 2: how people don't think about you as much as you
Speaker 2: think type of attitude, because when you see a comment, you're.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, everybody sees this, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And so I feel like working through those things and
Speaker 2: then finding kind of that uniqueness of having fun and
Speaker 2: embracing it. I have a lot of fun on Twitter,
Speaker 2: as you guys know. But I know everybody's like, oh Twitter,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: I know you have a mixed bag.
Speaker 2: But I'm just like, he's just got to embrace that
Speaker 2: bullshit man, because it ain't going away.
Speaker 1: You're never gonna beat the internet. You're never gonna beat
Speaker 1: the internet. You just got to.
Speaker 2: Join that motherfucker. Great call, Great call, Alex. That's a
Speaker 2: good pool right there. We will now, uh jelly, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a huge, genuine hug and we're gonna kick
Speaker 2: it over too. We're gonna go through an AD and
Speaker 2: then after the AD we will jump into our Alecan
Speaker 2: Gold interview where we'll talk about coach Pasacia his open
Speaker 2: letter to to Raider Nation and pick his brain a
Speaker 2: little bit and join the podcast.
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Speaker 1: is what happened. Yeah, all right, I got booted. Everybody
Speaker 1: used and abused. I came here to be as fucking
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Speaker 2: welcome to Busting with the Boys. It's not your first rodeo, dude,
Speaker 2: this is your second time. I guess technically you're on. This
Speaker 2: doesn't really count. I needed you because the boys obviously. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: we just lost and you also had a open letter
Speaker 2: to Raider Nation that I want to get into. But
Speaker 2: first and foremost, how's my guy? How are you doing?
Speaker 4: How's that New Year's Need's going good?
Speaker 8: First day back?
Speaker 11: Like we had exit interviews yesterday, a lot of whistle
Speaker 11: piggy going around Las Vegas.
Speaker 8: You had that uh that can in that when you
Speaker 8: got cut?
Speaker 11: Bro, that video like I walked past so many people,
Speaker 11: like it was played for four hours consistently around the facility,
Speaker 11: like everyone was watching it. Everyone was laughing their ass off,
Speaker 11: being like God, like, how how's this happened? How's this happen?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 2: I heard, Uh, somebody told me it was played. Somebody
Speaker 2: told me it was played in your guys' meeting.
Speaker 11: We had a team meeting and you it was set
Speaker 11: up to the point where like we were expecting you
Speaker 11: to burst through the freaking meeting room through the doors.
Speaker 8: There's gonna be a spotlight on you.
Speaker 11: And you like resurrected, Like we didn't know if you're
Speaker 11: going to be a coach, whether you're a volunteer assistant,
Speaker 11: whether you're coaching a player, Like it's like Will was
Speaker 11: gonna be playoff. Willy was live and well the boys
Speaker 11: were like this, something's gonna happen, and shoot, it was hilarious.
Speaker 11: That got everyone hype and then you know, played the
Speaker 11: whole highlight tape after that.
Speaker 8: But you were the intro to our team meeting.
Speaker 1: That is so funny, man.
Speaker 2: I want to say maybe Adam from Equipment obviously Foster too,
Speaker 2: shout out the boy Foster, but I want to say
Speaker 2: Adam from Equipment had texted me like, hey, Will, this
Speaker 2: is Adam from a EQ. Just wanted you to know
Speaker 2: like we played we played your we played your Twitter
Speaker 2: video in our highlight in our highlight tame.
Speaker 4: I just started laughing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, hopefully the boys enjoyed it, because that
Speaker 2: could have been awkward too, Like everybody's like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is one think I will up there? He's like,
Speaker 2: now everybody started knocking on wood and I know, bro,
Speaker 2: I was so fucking bummed when.
Speaker 4: I got cut.
Speaker 2: But uh hey, it is that's the that's the cutthroat
Speaker 2: nature of the NFL.
Speaker 8: Man, it is the business. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: Let's I want to talk about your open letter to
Speaker 2: Raider Nation because you came out a couple.
Speaker 1: You know, how long has it been. I feel like
Speaker 1: every day's kind of minting together.
Speaker 2: But like ten days ago, right a week and a
Speaker 2: half ago, I feel like you dropped an open letter
Speaker 2: to Raider Nation before the Chargers game. It was titled
Speaker 2: what was it titled? Fourteen the Address the Address.
Speaker 8: Or fourteen seventy five Raders Way, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Fourteen seventy five Raiders A Way.
Speaker 2: Talk about why you wanted to write an open letter
Speaker 2: to a Raider Nation, and not only Rader Nation, but
Speaker 2: you obviously knew that the boys were going to read
Speaker 2: that as well.
Speaker 4: What inspired you to want to do that?
Speaker 11: Bro, I've been so bummed with this acl especially like
Speaker 11: right off the bat, Like the toughest part is mentally,
Speaker 11: like going through it and not being in that daily
Speaker 11: grind with your guys. And I've had to take such
Speaker 11: such a different role on the team, like I was,
Speaker 11: you know, captain Big on the offense Big and special
Speaker 11: teams like super involved breaking the guys down right before
Speaker 11: we go, you know, into the you know, right before pregame,
Speaker 11: Like I'm in the middle of the huddle doing that
Speaker 11: with the guys, and all of that gets stripped from you,
Speaker 11: Like all that gets taken away and you're just on
Speaker 11: a training table every single day, just like watching, learning,
Speaker 11: listening and just being forced to like take a different
Speaker 11: like take a back seat. I like, I'm addicted to
Speaker 11: being around the guys. I'm addicted to being like in
Speaker 11: the football locker room, in the grind. I just wanted
Speaker 11: to let the guys know, let the people know how
Speaker 11: much I miss it and how much I was learning
Speaker 11: from freaking Max, from Foster, from Josh, Like you just
Speaker 11: saw all all of the guys that you came in
Speaker 11: with growing up so much. And I have a lot
Speaker 11: more free time. I'm on Twitter and Instagram a whole
Speaker 11: lot more. You know, when you're on the couch and
Speaker 11: you just you feel like there's people just hating on
Speaker 11: everybody in the building, and I just I didn't. I
Speaker 11: wanted to kind of bridge the gap between the two.
Speaker 11: So it was a little therapeutic for me. I was
Speaker 11: on the couch, I'm emotional at night, and just like
Speaker 11: you know, you had the acl but that made me
Speaker 11: feel better. It was a message to the guys, It
Speaker 11: was a message to Rich, it was a message to
Speaker 11: Raider Nation, just everybody, the whole family. Like we've been
Speaker 11: through it all, bro, we went through literally everything together.
Speaker 11: This year, and just to appreciate the amount of freaking
Speaker 11: guts it took for those guys to keep strapping up
Speaker 11: and fighting down the stretch. I just want I just
Speaker 11: wanted to give props and kudos to those guys.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like do you feel like with all
Speaker 2: the scrutiny the Raiders were under, with especially some of
Speaker 2: the headlines, by choices that players were making. Obviously coach
Speaker 2: Cruden gets canned, There's been a lot of stuff that
Speaker 2: happened with the boys throughout the year.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you wanted to write that as well?
Speaker 2: Because it's kind of like a from an outsider's perspective
Speaker 2: looking in. You read a letter like yours, and you
Speaker 2: probably feel I would assume as a Raiders fan that
Speaker 2: the culture isn't a lot better shape that people perceive
Speaker 2: out from the outside looking in all around the country
Speaker 2: versus just Vegas.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you know, you see the headline and
Speaker 11: everyone was coming after us, Everyone's coming at the neck,
Speaker 11: and any mistake that anyone had made after you know,
Speaker 11: the Grooden and the Rugs incident, like everyone's social media
Speaker 11: was run through. Everyone was like under intense, like an
Speaker 11: intense microscope. So to be able to kind of like
Speaker 11: let people know, guys are working their tails off, guys
Speaker 11: are working hard here, and that's.
Speaker 8: That was the real like the culture.
Speaker 11: Nobody panic, nobody blinked in the facility, like we all
Speaker 11: kind of got closer through all this adversity. You can
Speaker 11: definitely kind of see a change of like, yeah, the
Speaker 11: boys went through it, we came out stronger. This is
Speaker 11: how we did it, not panicking freaking out about every
Speaker 11: single you know, headline that was ever written about us.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: I know, for me, like anytime I've gotten on the
Speaker 2: on the mic to talk about it, I wanted to
Speaker 2: express kind of the kind of something similar because you do,
Speaker 2: Like even for me before I join you, guys, you
Speaker 2: see everything that was happening. You're just like, man, like
Speaker 2: you know what's going on, Like why are they making
Speaker 2: why is this decision choice being made? Driving and this
Speaker 2: and that the other, And you get in and you
Speaker 2: just see how the player leadership and how all the guys,
Speaker 2: all the boys just lean on each other, and the
Speaker 2: leadership from the top down too, not only in the
Speaker 2: locker room but outside of it with coach Pasaci and
Speaker 2: everything else, and you just you know, you sit there and.
Speaker 1: Hate it because you're like, Yo, these dudes, we got.
Speaker 2: Some good fuckers in the locker room, Like, there are
Speaker 2: some good guys in there that take this shit serious
Speaker 2: that you know people on the outside don't get to
Speaker 2: see that stuff. So I'm with you, man, I agree,
Speaker 2: But I also just shifted a little bit because I think,
Speaker 2: you know, you had messaged me a little bit about
Speaker 2: that letter, about putting it out and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and I feel like the things that you are kind
Speaker 2: of about and do I respect a hell of a
Speaker 2: lot because you're a.
Speaker 3: Younger guy, you know.
Speaker 2: I was even telling you, like, there's some I wish
Speaker 2: I would have spoke up more as a younger guy
Speaker 2: and everything else. And I think you do a great
Speaker 2: job of doing that, even though I know you're being
Speaker 2: vulnerable and you probably have a little bit of fear
Speaker 2: behind you about what the perception could be or even
Speaker 2: the acceptance of your peers, because you're putting there yourself
Speaker 2: out there to let guys know how you feel about them.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel like it's important for you to
Speaker 2: express to the guys how you feel about them, because
Speaker 2: in a game that is macho and masculine and all
Speaker 2: this other shit to where you're kind of you're flexing
Speaker 2: your stun. You're trying to like, you know, sizing guys
Speaker 2: up every day. Why do you feel like it's important
Speaker 2: for you as a leader to let guys know how
Speaker 2: you feel.
Speaker 11: I think you know it's a balance, right, Like you
Speaker 11: gotta you want to be a role model for people
Speaker 11: outside the building, but the people that are inside the building,
Speaker 11: they you know, we're talking about this too, Like people
Speaker 11: know if you're about it if you're not. And you
Speaker 11: kind of you dictate your character by your actions, right,
Speaker 11: and like if you just show up the same way
Speaker 11: every single day, you're an accountable dude, and you're in
Speaker 11: the locker room.
Speaker 8: You it starts by all the work. It starts by
Speaker 8: all the actions.
Speaker 11: It starts by you know, making plays on the field,
Speaker 11: and it's being that consistent, finding that routine. And then
Speaker 11: you're a you're you're able to you know, get the
Speaker 11: opportunities to speak your mind, to be creative, to be
Speaker 11: open with other people. But it starts with conversations in
Speaker 11: the locker room. It starts with guys understanding what you're
Speaker 11: really about. And then it kind of affords you the
Speaker 11: opportunity to write a letter or go on a video
Speaker 11: or go on a pod, and you know, people will,
Speaker 11: you know, not take your words out of context or
Speaker 11: try and like twist it because they know what you're about,
Speaker 11: and you know, it's it's just about being consistent. But yeah,
Speaker 11: that vulnerability, bro, it was it was scary for me
Speaker 11: to release something like that because it was so real.
Speaker 11: And you know, last time I was on the pod, bro,
Speaker 11: I was so scared because I'm I'm a rookie. I'm
Speaker 11: coming in like super excited to be a willing and
Speaker 11: Taylor and all the guys, and it's like I haven't
Speaker 11: done anything yet and I still have it, you know
Speaker 11: what I'm saying. But at least I'm confident in a
Speaker 11: routine that I've built, that the guys that care about
Speaker 11: me are in the facility with me, like they know
Speaker 11: what I'm about, so we can have an open dialogue.
Speaker 11: We can be just you know, on the bus and
Speaker 11: just talking. So I think it's it's different that way.
Speaker 2: And just to be clear, this doesn't count, like you
Speaker 2: you and you got to bring the boy Foster. Both
Speaker 2: of you guys got to be on the bus and
Speaker 2: we've got to be chopping it up, man, But I uh,
Speaker 2: I wanted to get on because I wanted to talk
Speaker 2: about that open letter because I really do.
Speaker 1: I think super highly of you.
Speaker 2: I respect the hell out of you, and you're also
Speaker 2: somebody who makes it a point, is very intentional about
Speaker 2: being around the guys and being around the entire day
Speaker 2: while being injured. You do all your rehab and everything else.
Speaker 2: And usually what happens for everybody listening, You'll go in
Speaker 2: and you'll do your rehab and everything else, and.
Speaker 4: Guys are usually out. Your day's over with by probably
Speaker 4: eleven am in the morning.
Speaker 2: And from there, you know, you usually just leave. You're
Speaker 2: somebody who sticks around. You sit in meetings, you stand
Speaker 2: at walkthroughs, you'll be around at practice, you'll be around
Speaker 2: in the weight room. You're around all the time. And
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, man, I think I really
Speaker 2: fuck with that. I think very highly of you, and
Speaker 2: like I said, I respect you for that because not
Speaker 2: a lot of guys do that. I do think you're
Speaker 2: you take it very seriously and you are somebody who's
Speaker 2: very much about it. So continuing to blow smoke and
Speaker 2: lift you up for everybody listening, alec Ingle really is
Speaker 2: about that life. He's a greatdude, any somebody that everyone
Speaker 2: should look to and follow because he is a leader
Speaker 2: in this league, not only just on the team. But
Speaker 2: I want to talk about coach Pisacia because you know,
Speaker 2: for me, I've been on I was telling everybody earlier,
Speaker 2: I've been on the team collectively for probably eleven weeks total,
Speaker 2: not even that long, And I feel like I try
Speaker 2: and do my best to talk about coach Pisacia, but
Speaker 2: it could come off that, you know, year ten, you
Speaker 2: want something else, you want to play for him, you
Speaker 2: want to play in the year and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But can you describe what coach Pisaci is like?
Speaker 2: Why everyone, and when I say everyone, why all his
Speaker 2: players hold him in such high regard and is the
Speaker 2: leader that he is around the locker room? Because I
Speaker 2: find it difficult to explain at times. Maybe you, as
Speaker 2: somebody who's been around him for three years now, you
Speaker 2: can do a better job explaining to people the type
Speaker 2: of man and coach that Coach Pistacia is.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So I've talked with a few guys about coaches in general,
Speaker 11: and coaches coaching two different ways. They coach the person
Speaker 11: and they coach the player. So you need, like you
Speaker 11: need to coach the player. You need to be technical
Speaker 11: with them. You need to be ruthless. You need to
Speaker 11: be you know, coaching technique. You need to know what
Speaker 11: you're talking about. But then you also need to know
Speaker 11: how to coach a player or the person. Sorry, you
Speaker 11: have to you have to be able to know how
Speaker 11: emotionally you can be consistent, finding guys' routines, understanding everyone's different.
Speaker 11: And coach Maasacha is one of those guys. He's one
Speaker 11: of the very few that can do both. You know,
Speaker 11: some guys are just very technical, they know the entire playbook.
Speaker 11: Some guys are very emotional. They're going to give you
Speaker 11: your plus minus sheet and help you get up for
Speaker 11: those big games. Coach Masatcha is like ruthlessly both at
Speaker 11: the same time. He can talk to you as you know,
Speaker 11: playoff Willie as will Compton coming in radio show having
Speaker 11: to learn yeah, having to learn the entire you know,
Speaker 11: playbook in one day two days, right, and like just
Speaker 11: onboard you and get you ready to play.
Speaker 8: He has to like connect to you on a personal level.
Speaker 11: But then when number fifty seven like messes up gets
Speaker 11: a you know, he's got a double minus you, and
Speaker 11: he's got to be ruthless and in correcting that. And
Speaker 11: he knows what he's talking about. He's about that life.
Speaker 11: He's consistent with his routine. He shows up, you know,
Speaker 11: probably four am every single day. And to be able
Speaker 11: to have a guy that cares about you and is
Speaker 11: both coaching you as a person and as a player,
Speaker 11: I think that that's the biggest thing and why guys
Speaker 11: respect him around the league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: He you said it, ruthlessly does both things because he
Speaker 2: bro when I was there the first year, I didn't
Speaker 2: even know he really liked me like that until I
Speaker 2: wrote that letter the next year is on the barstool
Speaker 2: blog about to the gritty players, the undrafted guys about
Speaker 2: training camp and this and that, and he shot me
Speaker 2: a note about, you know, complimenting it and everything else,
Speaker 2: and that was the first time I knew.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh damn, like coach Pisascia.
Speaker 2: I guess liked me because he was all you know,
Speaker 2: he gave me a lot of shit whenever I did
Speaker 2: had that it was the Titans versus Raiders, and I
Speaker 2: did that big jersey exchange with all the boys, all
Speaker 2: the boys in Tennessee. But he's somebody who you're right, man,
Speaker 2: He's able to coach the player in the person because
Speaker 2: the relationships he has with guys. It's like when I
Speaker 2: told the story of me getting cut, I go downstairs
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, Rich, I'm like, you can't cut
Speaker 2: me upstairs and face me like a man, and all
Speaker 2: the all the boys are sitting down there at breakfast
Speaker 2: and everybody starts laughing, and we come over and start hugging,
Speaker 2: Like he's somebody who can sit and have breakfast with you, lunch,
Speaker 2: have all the deep conversations, have his little newsboy hat on,
Speaker 2: looking like an old Italian and sit there and talk
Speaker 2: to you. You know what I'm saying, though, The dude
Speaker 2: like gets to your level personally. And then when you're
Speaker 2: in the film room, You're right, he's ruthless there too,
Speaker 2: because he's he can be a motherfucker now coaching you
Speaker 2: hard and everything else. But I think that's the respect
Speaker 2: he commands. Do you feel like he has a it's
Speaker 2: an achilles heel to not be one side or the
Speaker 2: other when it comes to office and defense, because again,
Speaker 2: coach Masati's coaching for I assume a head coaching role
Speaker 2: next year. I know all the boys are wanting to
Speaker 2: play their ass off for coach. It's not you me
Speaker 2: being one of them. You want to win because you
Speaker 2: want coach Pasaca to get promoted. That's how good of
Speaker 2: a coach. He is impact guys so well that they
Speaker 2: want you to get promoted.
Speaker 4: And so do you.
Speaker 2: Feel like that's an achilles heel, that he's just a
Speaker 2: special teams guy.
Speaker 8: No, it's just the reality of the situation. You know,
Speaker 8: that's just his job.
Speaker 11: I mean, he's a running back coach back in the
Speaker 11: day in college, and you know, all the way through
Speaker 11: the NFL, and obviously a special teams coordinator assistant head coach.
Speaker 11: But yeah, he's he's consistently around the guys, and it's
Speaker 11: just a reality of the situation because you know, you
Speaker 11: could say it's an achilles heel, but then on the
Speaker 11: other side, you could say he has personal relationships with
Speaker 11: guys on offense and defense, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 11: and special teams. Special teams coordinators have to manage the
Speaker 11: entire game. You know, those are often the guys in
Speaker 11: the ear of the coach saying, hey, we have to
Speaker 11: two minutes, you know, drill coming up, we have two timeouts.
Speaker 8: You know, they've scored you know, twenty points.
Speaker 11: What, Like the situational awareness of a guy like that
Speaker 11: is at a different level, so you could say, you know,
Speaker 11: it's good, better and different, just the reality of the
Speaker 11: situation that he's in and we're in, and yeah, we
Speaker 11: were all on one year like prove it deals you
Speaker 11: know everyone in that building.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone, everyone.
Speaker 11: Was And you could have either the coolest part about
Speaker 11: playing with the guys this year was you could have
Speaker 11: either went for the stats, went for I'm worried about
Speaker 11: my what my film looks like and what every other
Speaker 11: coach across the league is looking at. Or you could
Speaker 11: have played for the guy next to you and knowing
Speaker 11: that he's got your back. And it's like we did
Speaker 11: the second you know what I'm saying, Like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 11: it was one. We were all just playing for one
Speaker 11: another and it was a choice, like we decided to
Speaker 11: do that because you could have easily decided to just
Speaker 11: play for yourself the rest of the season.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it is unreal.
Speaker 2: That's what I think a lot of people don't understand either,
Speaker 2: is after you guys lose coach Grudin, you guys come
Speaker 2: out and win the next week after all the shit
Speaker 2: that had happened that week, and you end up winning
Speaker 2: for Coach Pisaci. And I kind of knew, like we
Speaker 2: had been on the bus talking about it too, like
Speaker 2: what do you think everything like in a locker room?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't think dudes are gonna blink.
Speaker 2: A Coach Pasaci is like one of the best leaders
Speaker 2: I've ever been around. And you know, you guys, like
Speaker 2: you said, you could have hung it up. Guys could
Speaker 2: have played for themselves. That's usually what you see happen,
Speaker 2: especially when the week that I had gotten there and
Speaker 2: we get who by the Chiefs in the fashion that
Speaker 2: we do and we have a four percent chance of
Speaker 2: making the playoffs. After that, the boys going to a
Speaker 2: four game win s drink and get in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But I do I think that is just a perfect
Speaker 2: example of in that situation, most of the time, guys
Speaker 2: usually pack it in and start planning on their new
Speaker 2: year's plans or postseason plans and going to Mexico and
Speaker 2: everything else. Everybody truly wanted to win for each other
Speaker 2: and Coach Pisacia. And to go off your answer with
Speaker 2: the special teams coach. That's something I feel like I
Speaker 2: have to ask, like a challenging little question.
Speaker 1: Because I obviously agree with you.
Speaker 2: But he's somebody that also sits with the bottom half
Speaker 2: of the roster. He's somebody that understands how to talk
Speaker 2: to each guy in every seat. Because everyone knows how
Speaker 2: to coach a superstars, everybody knows sid to like be
Speaker 2: around those guys and know who the starters are and
Speaker 2: everything else. But as a coach who sits with the
Speaker 2: special teams in the bottom half of the roster, backups and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know how to talk to and
Speaker 2: coach the person, coach the player. All that stuff that
Speaker 2: I feel like really plays in his favor because again,
Speaker 2: he knows the roster up and down. He knows how
Speaker 2: important the bottom half is just as much as the
Speaker 2: top half. And again he has such good relationships with everybody,
Speaker 2: And I just I just think that speaks idly highly
Speaker 2: of him.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he you know, one of the first things he
Speaker 11: said when he took over is like he's he was
Speaker 11: coaching for us, you know what I'm saying, Like, don't
Speaker 11: get a twist.
Speaker 8: He wasn't coaching for himself. He was coaching for the players,
Speaker 8: and you know.
Speaker 11: Just being genuine in the work that he put in
Speaker 11: up to that point to be able to say stuff
Speaker 11: like that and know that he means it and know
Speaker 11: it's coming from a true place. You know, it means
Speaker 11: a lot. You know, the words, the words can all
Speaker 11: be the same. You know, interviews are probably gonna like
Speaker 11: all all the guys that are going to be on
Speaker 11: all these different podcasts stuff, it's going to be similar.
Speaker 11: But the way it's said, and like the emotion behind it,
Speaker 11: like you really have to pay attention to that stuff.
Speaker 11: Like the dude, the dudes for real, the guys were free,
Speaker 11: All the boys were freel this year.
Speaker 8: It was a blessing to be on that team. I've
Speaker 8: it freaking killed me.
Speaker 11: I couldn't be out on that field, bro, But I
Speaker 11: mean it was it was a blessing to be able
Speaker 11: to be around the guys in the meeting rooms, in
Speaker 11: the weight room, Like that's what helped me with my
Speaker 11: recovery personally, was being around this team, you know, mentally,
Speaker 11: just keeping you in it.
Speaker 8: So oh man, it.
Speaker 2: Was you're out there making fullbacks great again. Did I
Speaker 2: hope you're back out there jumping over everybody again next year.
Speaker 8: Well yeah, that's that's no question. Well we'll get back,
Speaker 8: We'll get back in no time.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're saying that the message will be uniformed
Speaker 2: across all the players that go in pods or radio
Speaker 2: shows or anything else, because I'm sitting here. Once we
Speaker 2: get done talking with each other, I'm like, man, we're
Speaker 2: really out here. Just hey, we're just promo and coach
Speaker 2: besides you right now. But I do I feel that
Speaker 2: strongly about the dude. Do you hope he's back next year?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I mean I think the whole interview process is gonna
Speaker 11: be crazy. And you know, I just I was up
Speaker 11: in his office today just talking with him, and it's
Speaker 11: just like you. The toughest part about those exit interviews,
Speaker 11: like you're saying, like we could have been looking at
Speaker 11: at your whole off season planned months ago, but everyone
Speaker 11: was just so locked in on making a run.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 11: Everyone was like this, It wasn't comprehendible that we were
Speaker 11: gonna have these exit interviews, exit meetings. It just hits
Speaker 11: you like a freaking train, bro, And it's like you
Speaker 11: believe that you had something so special, so unique that
Speaker 11: it's like you just don't know.
Speaker 8: What's going to happen, and it's it's it's.
Speaker 11: Scary, But then at the same point, it's like, that's
Speaker 11: the NFL, that's the business.
Speaker 8: You gotta be real comfortable being uncomfortable.
Speaker 11: Bro, you gotta be real comfortable just being put in
Speaker 11: tough situations and being a tough motherfucker and making out
Speaker 11: the other side even better.
Speaker 4: No doubt. Bro.
Speaker 2: Do you now I know you're on a little you're
Speaker 2: on a little contract deal as well.
Speaker 1: Do you hope to be a Raider in the future.
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure. I think we'll, uh we'll figure something out. Obviously,
Speaker 11: it's the restricted free agency deal.
Speaker 4: So it's uh oh you're restricted.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm restricted this year, so it's uh oh, you
Speaker 11: ain't going nowhere undrafted.
Speaker 8: It's the undrafted grind.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: You I'm telling you you ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Though. Well, I won't dive too much into that stuff
Speaker 2: or your acl stuff. I'll wait till you get on
Speaker 2: the bus and in person, because it's much better that way.
Speaker 2: But bring the boy Foster. We'll have some piggybacks, dudent,
Speaker 2: we'll have a great time.
Speaker 8: That sounds like a plan, all right, brother, Hey, I
Speaker 8: love you Love you too, buddy.
Speaker 1: We'll see it all right, man, see you