1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions, in the casion didn't notice, I'm 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: not broke. You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald, and it's time to stop reading 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: other people's success stories and stop writing your own. That's 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: why people like d and Willie on my show to day, 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: they have success stories that will motivate you. But it's 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: their stories and it could offer you direction and help 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: you reach your goals. But it's your planning and your 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: committed effort that's gonna get you to your goals. That's 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: why my interviews provide you, being you're the consumer in 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: the business owner, access to these celebrities and CEOs and 19 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers, because they truly are too 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. My guest dog Dr Willie Jolly and 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: D Taylor Jolly. They are the authors of the Make Love, 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Make Money, Make It Last book tend Secrets to the 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: Shape a Great marriage. Please work with the Money Making 24 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Conversation the world. We're now Hall of Fame speaker and 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: bestselling author, Dr Willie Jolly and the c O O 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Willie Jolly Worldwide D Taylor Jolly, how y'all doing very well, 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: LEAs the greatful and glad to have you as my 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: friend for all these years, and we are honored to 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: be able to be on with you and honored to 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: be able to share some ideas with your audience. Hopefully 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: will empower, inspire and bless their relationships in their marriage. Well, 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: first of all, I got I gotta go to D first, 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: you know, because I read the book. You know, because 34 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: I knew D had swag when she had a two 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: E E Z dot DOTR to a Z. I said, okay, okay, now, okay, now, 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: because that was the car I have, Willie, Dr to 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: a D C. You had to have a little money 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: in your bake. You have to have a little flat 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: board girl. You hey, Willie, you couldn't tell her nothing 40 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: when she had adopted two easy, could you? You're right right, 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: and you drove it into the ground. You know that's true. 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: Car when I got married to him, a lot of 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: driving it and I just drove it into the absolutely, 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: yeah right when you looking go class and style and 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: too easy? What color was it? Deep? What color was it? 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: It was percent it special, special honor, special honor for 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, I took a lot of fun. That's why 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to start off with the with and talking 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: about some of the things that I felt more engaging 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: about your book or personal about the book, because when 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: you write a book like that, it has to be 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: honest and and as and and sometimes telling your story 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: it takes moments because you know, as you keep writing 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: the book, you start, oh let me, let me add this, 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: so you start remembering a part of a story that 56 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: you actually forgot that becomes important part of the book. 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: And sitting down as a couple because I love what 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: it says? What will it say? Is what he says? 59 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: So each one of you as a couple saw things differently, 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: but worked as a unit to succeed. Correct. Yes, absolutely 61 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: you're right, and once she was one of the challenges. 62 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, I've read the number of books, many of 63 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: them uh, global bestsellers. It only takes the many change 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: of life, a setback as a setup for comeback, trying 65 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: setbacks and the greenbacks and attitude of excellence Chicken su 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: for the Christian soul. Writing one with my wife was 67 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: really difficult because she typically has been my editor of 68 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: all my books, and so when we went to write 69 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: this one, it was challenging because I have my own 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: voice and I had never that I had my own 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: voice and that I was not simply editing what he said. 72 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: So we we struggled for a little while. So we 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: figured out our speed and how it's work, and then 74 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: we would look at the ten principles that we had 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: developed over these thirty six years or at that point 76 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: it was about thirty thirty two years, thirty three years 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: when we wrote the book also and uh, then once 78 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: we got the principles lined up and said, okay, I 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: will write my part or my take, ora she write 80 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: her take, and that's when it really found magic, not 81 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: one other thing. When we wrote the book. We've been 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: married for thirty six years, haven't had an argument, and 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: over thirty three years, now, these first couple of years 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: with like World War three, I learned some principles that 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: helped us stop arguing and get to loving each other. 86 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: And I thought we were staring at you. She's staring 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: at you, Willie. She's staring at you while you talking. Now, 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if all that's working in the direction 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,559 Speaker 1: you know the book is, Willie says, and D says. 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: I think that was a D says stands she was 91 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: giving she she want to say about it. We got 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: the principle, but we had to then embrace them. Go 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: ahead there, I'm going forward school teacher too, so the 94 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: nonverbal communication, but embracing versus actually implementing in two different things. Right, 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: So we have mentors, we had information, but we had 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: to decide that we wanted to do this and that 97 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: we wanted to work through it together. I would say 98 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: that the most difficult part of the development of our 99 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: relationship is actually how we communicate. Because Willie speaks for 100 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: a living and he writes books in the life, so 101 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: sometimes it can be overpowering until you pulled back and say, 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: let's wait a minute, now, here's what I have to say, 103 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: and this is how I need you to communicate with me, 104 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: and that came to a head over the Chinese food. Yeah, 105 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest challenge to our marriage came one 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: night in a Chinese restaurant where we carry carry out 107 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: when we almost broke up. And it's one of the 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: biggest points in our marriage. And we talked about the 109 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: three boulders that break up marriage, sex, money and communication 110 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: and communication is the three that we've threw all of 111 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: those and we almost came to to end of our 112 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: marriage over Chinese food. It was basically happened was her 113 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: family was coming to visit. I wanted to impress my 114 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: brother exactly to d C. I'm a nice little southern 115 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: girl from Hampton, Virginia. My father's was a pastor and 116 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the life and I wanted to simply impress my brother 117 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: and his wife that we were doing okay and we 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: were doing well. And he said he, I said, what 119 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: do y'all want for them? He said, how about Chinese? 120 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: Y'all got good Chinese restaurants And they don't have a 121 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: lot of Chinese restaurants in the city where she's from 122 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: and a southern city. I said, got you I'm a 123 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: Chinese food of ficiatto. I'm an expert, right all the spots. Now, 124 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: she said, you like sushi. She had be educating the 125 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: sushi with you. Okay, so I know you got it, 126 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: you read it. Yeah. I also know that you're introverted 127 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: as well, so you keep going, keep going. So we 128 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: got to the restaurant. I told her here's what we need. 129 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: She said, no, we need more. I said, no, this 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: is all we need. No, we need more, and I 131 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: he was cheap. Okay, I'm known for metrate. You like 132 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: a dollar hollow right right right, right, right right right, 133 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: I said, here before we need and I got loud. 134 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: I got loud. Don't except the will behavior for him 135 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: to get loud with me, And so it got loud 136 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: and more intense, and finally it got I was fever pitch. 137 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: I was hollering, and she said, I will leave you married. Folks. 138 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Here's a word I want you to learn. Dial it 139 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: back back, little phrase, dial it back, I said, dollar 140 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: back down the value. He ordered everything that I thought 141 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: We should have, went home, had dinner the end of 142 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: the night, after everybody eating, we had left overs. How 143 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: much a lot, a lot he doesn't like having Chinese 144 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: leftovers because he says they're not good the next step. 145 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: But he was right, it's too much. And so when 146 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: they left, we said, let's talk. You said he had 147 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: to have a conversation, which was a very wise thing. 148 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,599 Speaker 1: On his birthday. I said, we need to talk about this. 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: You said, very clearly, I don't like anybody. I'm a 150 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: daddy's girl. My daddy Fire Bramstone Minister never raised his 151 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: voice to me. Always sweet, loving kind, my brother, and 152 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I always you. And you went this big time talker, 153 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: this big time talker over here, he talks to thousands. 154 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: That's that's Willie here, a big time talker, right you 155 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: you you pe k, big time talker. Pe k at 156 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: the restaurant, he became a big time talker. MS introverts 157 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: stepped up a game. There you go, I said, And 158 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: she said, I don't like people holing at me. And 159 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: I said, got it. And now that I got yours, 160 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: let me tell you mine. I don't like people threatening 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: to leave me, and don't don't threaten me. And so 162 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: we made a we made an agreement. I said, I'm 163 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: never hauler at you again, and she said, I'll never 164 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: threaten to leave you. And that's been over thirty three years. 165 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: We haven't had an argument. Sense. We don't always agree, 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: but we've learned how to have systems that will help 167 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: us to disagree without being disagreeable. And that's a chapter 168 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: in the book that you disagree without being disagreeable. There 169 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: really there really isn't also isn't it also being disrespectful 170 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: to in that part right there? You know? Which I 171 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: which I like about the book is that you know 172 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: it's all about communication when you said it earlier, Willie, 173 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: because that were the communication and money, communication and big 174 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: communication with your kids, communication when you work all that, 175 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: if you don't communicate, and that was my biggest takeaway 176 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: from this whole book was that you guys have mastered 177 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: the art of communication. And that's what you're telling everybody. 178 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: If you don't communicate, you can be two different people. 179 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: And I love when you talk about you know, he 180 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: liked this type of food. I wasn't a sushi love. 181 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I had to be brought home to that side of 182 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: the table. And then when you got to the whole 183 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: part about his daughter Sherry, that's the point where I 184 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: had the most fun in the book because d I 185 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: didn't know you but it is so vivid, it is 186 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: so colorful. You driving at five hours to pick up 187 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: his daughter, and you wouldn't one hundred be sent in 188 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: the club of going back inether like you said the 189 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: X white made her bad, as you said, sleep in it. 190 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: You know, blending familises can be very challenging, and and 191 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: and marriages where you're blending up families. She had been 192 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: back before I had a child, before I got married, 193 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: and we had to blend all of this and it 194 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: was very challenging. But again it was the communication. It 195 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: was the wise counsel of my mom, a mentor. When 196 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: I called her and said, what will he was going 197 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: to do? He was going to go pick up sherry, 198 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: like the house is calm, everybody gets along. Well, why 199 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: are you doing this? And my mother said to Nick, 200 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: I think what you said? She said, this is your 201 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: mama said, you want to be married to a man 202 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: that wants to be responsible to the children that he 203 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: brought into this world. That's what your mama took. Why 204 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: would you want a man like that? Why would you 205 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: respect a man like that? Why you wouldn't love a 206 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: man like that? That's what your mama said in this 207 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: book that I read, yes, you read that. That was 208 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: her mama. And let me tell you something. It was 209 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: the key because her mother made the difference, and so 210 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: you know that communication. Look, the communication chapter is probably 211 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: the biggest chapter book and we give that away free 212 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: and everybody want to give to all your listeners of 213 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: the people who are viewing it and go to jolly 214 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: marriage dot com. Jolly marriage dot com, get the free 215 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: chapter from that book and will bless you. And if 216 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: you choose to get the book, we recommend you get 217 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: two copies going for each of you. We've had so 218 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: many couples who are their way to divorce court who's saying, 219 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna try one more time. They've got two copies 220 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and at the end of each chapter they would talk 221 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: about what they learned. And we've had so many calls afterwards, 222 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: and one particular call and said, we've been married fifteen 223 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: years and we're not only not divorcing, but when we 224 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: got to the end, we closed the book and we 225 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: cried together because we realized we really didn't know much 226 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: about each other. So we want to give that away 227 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: jollick marriage dot com. If ever, we're talking about sex, 228 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: Chapter eight, Chapter eight, Chapter eight chapter eight. Now I 229 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: know about that chapter. Now chapter the hot chapter. I 230 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: think because it's titled Sex, Headaches and Other Lives, he 231 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: gets a lot of attention. But sex is not just intercourse, 232 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: absolutely the intimacy which women need more so than them man. 233 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: And it takes us along the road ending up with 234 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: sex intercourse. Right. But women need the words, they need 235 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: the roses, they need the tenderness rose, they need the 236 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: sweet talk. Look at him, look at him too much? 237 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: You too much? But you know it makes me want 238 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: to be close to him. You know the thing about it. 239 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Times we forget then all of the confusion and chaos, 240 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: including the pandemic, we forget kind words, something tender, It 241 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: actually draws the woman in and helps develop romance. Right. 242 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: And I tell brothers, brothers, if you want some action 243 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: at night, you need to start working on it in 244 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: the morning. Thank you very much, working in the morning. 245 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: In the morning, I take our smoothie in the running 246 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: a cup offee. But she's at her desk. I sent 247 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: her a little text from my offer to her. Look 248 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: across the hall from each other. Sure look good today 249 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: things make a big difference and and it will work 250 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: better for you. Gentlemen, if you do it in that process, 251 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: not just coming at the last minute at night, gone 252 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: you're ready. You read that don't work. That don't work 253 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: in this world. You gotta be more thoughtful and caring 254 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: and tender to make a word of difference in your 255 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: love life. You'm stopping. I'm trying to interview you, y'all. 256 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: I got this. I read the book. I know y'all love, 257 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: I know this my communication with some people each other. 258 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: Will it stop it? 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That's O T T 292 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: E R dot ai. Okay, now, now let's talk about communication, 293 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: because I want to go back a little bit to 294 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: the sharing situation, because that was important because it was 295 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: about communication, because it was one person accepting another young 296 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: lady who was hostile because you didn't know, you know 297 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: them through our hands up after she drunk, because I 298 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: was I always remember it was a very similar situation 299 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: with my my older sister. I we moved her daughter 300 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: in and we set rules, and then six months later 301 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: she made the phone call. They treat me like I'm 302 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: in prison. They they they won't let me go out. 303 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: They won't and then of course, hey, the sister came 304 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: got her. And I always regret that I didn't put 305 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: up a bigger fight because I felt that she would 306 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: have lived a different life if she would have been 307 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: with us. And then but you had to change. That's 308 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: the adjustment in communication. You know, we could joke around 309 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: about the love, but this is the communication and accepting 310 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: situations that you may not be comfortable with. And that's 311 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: really what I took away when I read about the 312 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: situation with Sherry, do you were not comfortable and also 313 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: whether you were not comfortable because you had to mediate 314 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: two people you love, but also had to have discipline, 315 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: and then indeed you had to admit you had to 316 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: set some of the rulings that he put in place 317 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: to make this thing work. So there was acceptance, there 318 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: was a human communication, and also accepting the ability to 319 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable for the bigger goal. That was the most 320 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: amazing part of the book for me because I took 321 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: away so many different levels. That's great insight. And I 322 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: think that you have to be willing to accept your 323 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: own limitations and really who you are. Because if I 324 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: had not been willing to say, I'm like, I'm doing 325 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: this because I believe in in willing i married him. 326 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: I don't agree. We talked about that because he's my 327 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: best friend. The whole idea I gotta do all I 328 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: can to save my daughter. I had to be on board, 329 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: which meant I had to do the right thing, whether 330 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: I felt it or not, And that I think is 331 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: so major. We get many of us blended families. We 332 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: get caught up in the emotions and so we get 333 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: carried away to the wrong things. We know the right 334 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: things to do. We must do the right things, and 335 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: then gradually the emotions come in and the situation changes 336 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: hopefully right. And we talked about better in this chapter 337 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: called how to Handle a Stalemate. And it is a 338 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: great object lesson on when you have two people who 339 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: have opposite um. And that's something that we decided on 340 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: before we got married. Really had already talked about that 341 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,239 Speaker 1: in terms of this is not really it's fifty one. 342 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: That might not be a popular position today, but one 343 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: you can't have a two headed You could have a 344 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: two headed my, but then you've got a monster. So 345 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: how do we work through this? We worked through it 346 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: by deciding early on I said to her, look, you 347 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: run everything, run the house, run the business. All I 348 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: want you to do is to make me think I'm 349 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: in charge. I thought that was such a wise statement 350 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: of this young man. So I said, make me. Let 351 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: me think I'm in charge. And I said, but what 352 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I will ask for is Vito power. And when we 353 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: are at at at a place where we both are stalemate, 354 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: and all I ask you is give me Vito power. 355 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: And I promise you, I promise you I will never 356 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: abuse it. And in thirty six years of marriage, I've 357 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: used it maybe two or three times. Always related to 358 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the children, Always related to the children, Always related to 359 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: the children, everything else we got. And I learned this 360 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: from my my, my mom and dad uh Ra Sean. 361 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: When my dad would be driving down the road, my 362 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: mom would be in a passenger seat. And you remember 363 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: back in old days, they didn't have lose the head 364 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: and left and you had that one rear view mirror. 365 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: You didn't have one on that side. And and we're 366 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: riding down the street and he said, can I get over? 367 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: And my mom will wrote that window down and stick 368 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: her head out to win. And she said either yes 369 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: or no. And he would take his action dependent on 370 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: what she told because they were teammates and they made 371 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: decisions together. So I took that object lesson when we 372 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: got married. Said, look, you're my teammate. Nine times out 373 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: of ten when you say we can get over, can, 374 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to you because you're always in it 375 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: for our best good. But that one time we have 376 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: a difference, and I know morally it's this was a 377 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: moral decision, not emotional decision. With my daughter who was 378 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: acting up and her mama called and said you gotta 379 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: come get her, and D said, no, I don't want 380 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: to do it. This was a critical moral decision. I said, 381 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: we gotta do it. It's the right thing. I know 382 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: it's hard, but we gotta do it. And this is 383 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: one of those times I gotta use veto power. And 384 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: she said it okay. Once here's a big thing, with 385 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: show big thing. Once we said yes, she was all in. 386 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: But that is with anything where once you make the 387 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: decision okay, I want to go right, I want to 388 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: go left, I want to you want to be Once 389 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: you come to an agreement, you both have to be 390 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: all in. So even if it didn't turn out right, 391 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: I had to make sure that I had done everything 392 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: in my power that I could do to make it 393 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: a success, so that he could never say, well, you know, D, 394 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: you didn't do No, this is a joint effort and 395 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: we rise or fall together. And if it had gone 396 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: south and it hadn't worked out, it didn't work out, 397 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: work out fine. But if it had gone south, I 398 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: also knew she would never say to me, I told 399 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: you so, but that that you know, I already wouldn't 400 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: know the fact he wants to be told I messed up, 401 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and you told me before and now you're gonna remind 402 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: me against the airport's story. Oh, we have so many 403 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: stories that it's the flight, right, but the flight and 404 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: that was my fault. I was, I knew it all, 405 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I had it. I'm I'm, I'm a traveling hour. And 406 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: I said, we'll get that fine enough time. We don't 407 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: need to leave early. She keeps saying we need to leave. 408 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: I got it, And we get caught in traffic. We 409 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: missed the flight, and we're standing there and he's using 410 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: all his persuasive powers to get out of the flight. 411 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: Doors are closed, getting ready to pull back from the gate. Right, 412 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: I say, not not a word. And we eventually got 413 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: a connecting flight to get us to the place where 414 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: I had to speak the next morning. But at midnight 415 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: we got in where we could have been in at 416 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: six six pm. I but you know that she's a reminder. 417 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Though she's a reminder, though you know what I'm saying, 418 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: what I'm not saying anything. I was already thinking I 419 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: would beat myself out, but I love to learn from that. 420 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: She had my back even when I messed up. I 421 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to ask you this. I want to say 422 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: it to two spouses that you can have each other's 423 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: back even when you mess up, because they know they 424 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: messed up. I want to ask you this question because 425 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, because it's the part, and because my wife 426 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: will go to church. I'm not the church corps. And 427 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: one of the one of the you know, recommendations of 428 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: the ten points is make God an equal part of 429 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: your marriage. I'm not saying it was not an equal part. 430 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: And I want, I want help with this, and I 431 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: wanted to help the my viewers and my listeners when 432 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: you talk about God, because you talk about certain points 433 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: that you prayed and your decisions were brought through prayer, 434 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: and I want help us through that whole process when 435 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: you say anything like that, this is this is a principle. 436 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Now look what we talked about in this book of 437 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: ten principles. Now we wrote our ten principles. But then 438 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: after I thought the book was finished, we went an 439 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: interview people who made from marriage forty fifty seventy years 440 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: and one of the things they all said was make 441 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: God an equal party of marriage. They said that the 442 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: marriage is like a triangle has three corners. This is me, 443 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: this is the and this is God up the top. 444 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: Now this is thirty three This is thirty three percent, 445 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: but that's only what's left is thirty four percent. And 446 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: that's God. And so he has the majority ownership of 447 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: the marriage. And so he gives us these principles that work. 448 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: If we were use them now, so we practice the 449 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: concepts that come from from the Bible. Then the principles 450 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: are marriage. Now here, the principal principles work their bed rock. 451 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: They work over and over again, and I throw this 452 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: rock up, throw this rock up every time. It's gonna 453 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: come down every time, not doing a hundred times, a 454 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: million times, ten million times, because of a principle called gravity. 455 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: These principles work, They work overtime, over time and over 456 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: time because they are bed rock. Principles take romance, romances Solomon, 457 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: that's right, the Song of Solomon. So there's lots of principles. 458 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: And the Bible says the bed should not be undefiled. 459 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: That that you got a brother, gotta get hooked up. 460 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: That's what it means. That's really right. Understanding the difference 461 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: between sex and then less intimacy. Okay, women need intimacy 462 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: and security. Men needs sex and respect, and they are 463 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: principles that are gonna be all the time. Because even 464 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: the scientific study show that men think about sex seventeen 465 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: times a day on average, and sometimes before breakfast. So 466 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: we know that that is the case. So what we 467 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: say to married couples is understand that these principles are bedrock. 468 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: They work in the words, in the words, so we 469 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: trust God through our marriage and we run it through 470 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: that prison, everything through that thirty say about this raising kids, 471 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: how to be sweet to each other? Yeah, and I 472 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: stay out to be those words how to be sweet 473 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: to each other. But the tenderness, the the what sucking 474 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: from the breast and all that romantic stuff like that 475 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: that I love you. I want to thank y'all, man, 476 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Please thank you for First of all, let me just 477 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: tell you this. I listened to you show all the 478 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: time seriously because my shows were serious and so dude 479 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: to check it out. That the beauty of who you are, man, 480 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: is that we've known each other a long time, respected 481 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: your relationship, your growth. The fact that I finally get 482 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: to me d and read about her principles, let me 483 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: know by you're a great man, not an average man. 484 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: You are a great man. And thank you for coming 485 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversations the CEO. 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