1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 3: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: Straight Fire for for Friday, November third, A fun night 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: in the Association. Yes, the NBA had a more spectacular 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: outing than the NFL. Listen. I'm not an NFL hater, obviously, 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: I'm not. You guys know I like the NBA, but 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: these Thursday night games just aren't great. Pittsburgh twenty Tennessee 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 3: sixteen we'll get to in a minute. I can't wait 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: to talk about Wembin Yama dropping thirty eight. If you 11 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: are just waking up, you went to bed early and 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 3: you didn't see it, You've got to see the highlights. 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Wembin Yama went off and beat the Suns again. Listen, 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: that's a hell of a first week and a half 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: for Wembin Yama. We have a great guest today, Steve Fezick, 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: the only guy who you guys know how I refer 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: to like the Vegas Contest, the one million dollar contest. 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: He's won it twice. He went back to back. This 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: is way before I even entered the contest. But he's 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: a legend in Vegas. Steve Fessick we break down. I 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: believe every single game for Week nine, he really likes 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: my he's confused I shouldn't say like he's confused by 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: the Jets Chargers line. That's that's the biggest one that 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: is weird for him. But I don't know. It's a 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: tough week in the NFL. We could jump into the picks. 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: Let's start with the NFL game Steelers twenty Titan sixteen. 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: Young Will Levis had you know as expected. Listen, he 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: goes on the road short week. He was gross on 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: third down. They weren't effective moving the football. It certainly 30 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: was brutal in the red zone one for four. Yet 31 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: here he is Will Levis driving for the go ahead 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: score in the final minute, and then he throws a 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: pick in the red zone. And that's pretty much to 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: be expected. You can't go into Pittsburgh and have to 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: ask your rookie quarterback in his second start to throw 36 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: the ball thirty nine times and beat the Steelers. That's 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: just that's a tall order, and Levis nearly pulled it off. 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: He was solid. I think I don't I'm not gonna 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: go there's no hot take on Will Levis after two games. 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 3: Bottom line, the moment has not looked too big for him. 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: He's been He was really good against the Falcons. Steelers 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: were ready for him and did a pretty good job, 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: but he didn't vomb it all over himself. You know, 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: we've seen guys in this spot totally show up and 45 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: you know, urinate down their leg on a Thursday night 46 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: football game, National TV audience Island game, and it's like, Okay, 47 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: this guy's not quite ready. Will Lewis didn't totally see that. 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: Some happy feet in the pocket, But overall I didn't 49 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: think he was terrible. I will say I thought the 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers were pretty terrible. And I'm not just saying 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: that because I had George Pickens in fantasy and the 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: guy had one cat one or two catches for like 53 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: negative one yards. This Pittsburgh offense remains really difficult to watch. 54 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: I love the idea that the OC Matt Canada. Nobody, 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: I mean nobody loves a good first down run up 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: the middle like Matt Canada. Nobody. And I love how 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: there was a big narrative that well, he's moving down 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: to the sideline. Now he's moving down to the sideline 59 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 3: out of the press box. Gott to change it up. 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Nothing changed. They were anemic on offense five point four 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: yards per play. You know, listen. Obviously, the ten penalties hurt. 62 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh basically let Tennessee walk down the field on the 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: opening drive by giving them like fifty yards and penalties. 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: Pathetic stuff. Pittsburgh basically just won this game because Kenny 65 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: Pickett played it ultra safe and didn't turn the ball 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: over and Levis had the late pick. That's it. Like 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Jayalen Warren looked good, Naje Hair is still running with 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: a piano on his back, and the offense can't do 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: a damn thing. This is now fifty six straight regular 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: season games without four hundred yards of offense. I mean, 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 3: it's just brutal. They're a tough watch. Somehow, somehow, Pittsburgh 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: is five and three. They're in the playoff mix. The 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: good news is the good news is for the Jets 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: and other teams that are hoping that the Steelers stumble, 75 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: the schedule gets considerably more difficult. They still have two 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: games against the ascending Bengals, they have a rematch with 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: Cleveland on the road, and they have the Seahawks and 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: Ravens to close out the end. Of the season. Let's 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: say we give them the Packers win. Let's say we 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: give them the Cardinals and the Colts. I'm not ready 81 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: to give them the Patriots, although it's probably a doube. 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: So if we give them Colts, cards, Packers give them three, 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: they're now at eight. They beat the Patriots, that's nine. 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that nine is going to get you 85 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: the last wildcard spot. It's a little too early to tell. 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: The Jets schedule is easier. They should be able to 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: get to ten. But we'll see. I do think if 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: you're Tennessee, the good news is, you know, Will Levis 89 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 3: is probably your start of the rest of the way. 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: Even when Tannehill comes back, and now you see what 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: you got with him, and you've got a quarterback on 92 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 3: a rookie deal, you maybe go try to level up 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: at receiver and help out. And maybe this isn't two 94 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: big of a lift. Jacksonville's very, very good, and you're 95 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: clearly playing for second in the division. But I think, 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 3: you know, if you're Tennessee, you take away some positives 97 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: from this one. Pittsburgh is just gross. Now let me 98 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: get to the NBA, and I just got to talk 99 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: about wem bin Yama. So you guys, you know, I'm 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: a huge Luka Danchich fan, and quietly this the MAVs 101 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: are on fire, and Luca's playing incredibly, and Kyrie Irving's 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 3: not in the lineup because he's he's injured, and I'm 103 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: excited about Luca. I like watching Luca, obviously, I like 104 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: watching Lebron. I'm a Nicks fan. But man, have you listen. 105 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: Have you seen wem ben Yama? And I mean really 106 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: seen If you go to YouTube and watch and just 107 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 3: punch in wem ben Yama thirty eight points versus suns, 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 3: I mean you just look at it. He is an 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: alien out there. Man. He makes Kevin Durant look very small. 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: They have run some plays the Spurs where it's basically like, hey, hey, 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: let's just set a backscreen for women Yama and just 112 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: throw it up near the room and he'll catch it 113 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: and literally no one can get up there. He's seven 114 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: foot three, but seems like seven seven, like he's a 115 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: minute ball out there, deft touch. This was his best 116 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: game fifteen of twenty six, thirty eight points, ten rebounds, 117 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: two blocks, only two turnovers, only three fouls, plus twenty 118 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: one now the Spurs O we're opening up a can 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: on these guys. I think they led by twenty in 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: like the second quarter, third quarter, and of course as 121 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 3: the NBA, everybody makes a run, the Spurs get made 122 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: it close, and then you know, wem b ben Yama 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 3: refused to put it won't refuse to capitulate. But I'm 124 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: just saying, you look at this team and it's like 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: wehm min Yama passes to Jeremy Sohan, who's a nice player. 126 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 3: I liked him, the kid out of Baylor. And then 127 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: there's Keldon Johnson, Zach Collins. I mean combined, what do 128 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: we talk about over under one point five All Star 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: games for those three in their career? Maybe under And 130 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: I like Kelton Johnson and I like Sohan, but like 131 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: again Seti Osman Tias Jones, who I really like, the 132 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: kid from Duke. It's it's pretty shocking that the Spurs 133 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: are three and two. 134 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: Now it's game. 135 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: We've still got seventy seven games to go. You know, 136 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: weird things happen early in the season. But going into 137 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: Phoenix and shooting for this burst fifty two percent, forty 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: eight percent from three and ninety two percent from the 139 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: foul line is somewhat staggering. Now, the Sons did shoot 140 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: fifty percent from three. Devin Booker returned he had a 141 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: really good game with thirty one. KD had twenty eight. 142 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: Still know, Bradley Beal has yet to make his debut, 143 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna render a verdict on the Suns. 144 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: You guys know, I'm extremely bullish on them. But it 145 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: is really easy to fall in love with wem Bin 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: Yama and what he brings to the table. I uh, 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: I had asked my buddy, who has season tickets to 148 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: the Lakers. I'm like, so, did you circle the wem 149 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: Ben Yama game. He's like, I think I'm out of town. 150 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: And of course my eyes lit up, and I was like, Jeff, 151 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: come on, bro, you know, listen this this guy. Maybe 152 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: maybe I'll try to go through my connection to try 153 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: to get in and watch wee Ben Yama. Let me 154 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: see when they are playing at they play back to 155 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: back with the Clipper in November. Oh later this month, 156 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: in two weeks they don't play the Lakers. Oh hell, 157 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: February twenty third, gim many Christmas stuff Friday night. Okay, 158 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: I can probably swing that. That's it. One trip to 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: the Lakers. No, I gotta be missing something. Umm, yeah, 160 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: I know this is scintillating radio. I'm sorry, not radio 161 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: podcast going through the Yeah, they only play the Lakers 162 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: three times. They play them back to back in San 163 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 3: Antonio in mid December. One will be on ESPN, and 164 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: then it looks like, yeah, just one more trip to 165 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: the Lakers February twenty third. So wee min Yama. Man, 166 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: he is this guy's who He's fun to watch. In 167 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: other news, Philadelphia seventy six ers. You know, first first 168 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: game post hard in trade. They look fine, Young Tyrese 169 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: Maxi not not his best game, but Kelly Oubrey continues 170 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: to light it up. It's interesting their starting backcourt was Maxi, Melton, 171 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: and Uber Junior. Okay, listen, I know they they have 172 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: Pat Bev coming off the bench and he's talking shit 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: to the raptors. I saw that. I'm just I'm being 174 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: real and I'm not being a hater. You're not gonna 175 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: go far when that's your backcourt Melton, Maxie and Ubra. 176 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: That's just that's not gonna do it. Now. You could 177 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: probably win a bunch of games in the regular season, 178 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: and you could beat up the Raptors who stink out loud. 179 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: But long term, I'm just Sixers fans enjoy the ride. 180 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be coming to an end, all right, 181 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: Without further ado, let's get to our guest. He is 182 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: Steve Fezick breaking down Week nine in the NFL. The 183 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: NFL season is going strong, and DraftKings sportsbook is hooking 184 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: new customers up with an offer that's even stronger. 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I mean, listen, 223 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: you guys know I talk about the Vegas contest all 224 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: the time. I've done it seven years, close to cashing twice. Well, 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: this guest has won the damn thing. He went back 226 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: to back. It was a little while ago, but he's 227 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: running super hot right now. Steve Feesick, professional gambler. Steve, 228 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 3: how are you man? 229 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: I am good, Jason. 230 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: It's always difficult to win when you're sports betting, and 231 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: we never want to make it sound like it's easy. 232 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, no, No, the toughest thing to do. I 233 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: mean listen, stock Market, you can just put your money 234 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: in there. It does great. I mean listen, This NFL 235 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: gambling is almost a fool's errand it's that hard to 236 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: do well. But we're having you on. We bring on 237 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 3: gamblers every week and you look at the card this week. 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: A lot of great games. But I'll be honest, Steve 239 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: some of these lines surprise me big time. Where would 240 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: you like to start Dealer's choice? 241 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: Go for it, you know, let's go all the way 242 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: to Monday night football. Because here's a line, and this 243 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: is very rare that I just don't understand the line, 244 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: and that the Chargers are a little bit better than 245 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: the Jets. You're to date, Chargers are disappointed, and the 246 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Jets obviously don't have a quarterback, and the Chargers like 247 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: two and a half points, three points better than the Jets, 248 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: but the games in New York, and the Chargers are 249 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: laying three and a half, And I don't understand where 250 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: the irrational exuberance is and why people are rushing to 251 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: the window to back the Chargers at a number above three. 252 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: And I know other guests come on, say this number 253 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: is off by seven or this numbers off by ten. 254 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: That's all nonsense. It's not true. 255 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: Almost every NFL line is right within a point in 256 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: terms of my power ratings, which I tweet out at 257 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: HSIK sports each and every week. But this game is 258 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: the rare exception where I would have made this game 259 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: like Chargers minus one and they're laying three and a half. 260 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: So I have great value on the Jets. 261 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: So talk to me about why you think that it's 262 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: lined as such. Now it was three earlier. This week, 263 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: we've seen the Jets have a lot of offensive line injuries. 264 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: They might start four backups against Khalil Mack and Bosa. 265 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: Not ideal Chargers coming off a big win on an 266 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 3: island game. Maybe they got right in air quotes. I 267 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: don't know. Every time I look at the Jets, I 268 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 3: see this defense shows well against elite quarterbacks. Whether it's 269 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 3: hurts Mahome Allen, they all had their worst games of 270 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: the season against his defense. I'm kind of with you. 271 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: I like the Jets, but is there something we're possibly 272 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: missing as to why there's. 273 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: The possibility that I missed something. 274 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: I probably frankly did miss something to be so misligned 275 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: versus the market. But you know, the beauty is I 276 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: don't have to be right and think the game should 277 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: be pick. I just have to be directionally right and 278 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: think that these teams are more competitive than the market does. 279 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: The Betters like offense more than defense, and obviously they 280 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: like good quarterbacks more than bad quarterbacks, and so that'll 281 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: land them both on the Chargers. 282 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: But who are the Chargers you look at the body 283 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: of work. 284 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: One really nice game, but it was on national TV 285 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: against the Bears, and you know, Goldfish memory, what. 286 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: Have you done for me lately? 287 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: The only way I can get there is if I 288 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: use priors and you look at what the Chargers expectation 289 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: was before the season started and then and maybe that's 290 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: if you wait that fifty percent you could you could 291 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: possibly get to this number. But if you just look 292 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: at this year's data, like even yards per play, you know, 293 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: the Jets are like an average team and the Chargers 294 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: are slightly below average team. 295 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: So Monday Night favor the Jets. 296 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you said priors. Are we talking coming into the 297 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: season or just the early half of the season, because 298 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: I think for some teams it's been really wacky. We'll 299 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: get to the Bengals eventually, But like, I don't know 300 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: how you weigh like what the Bengals have done this 301 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: season versus last week versus healthy Burrow, and the Jets 302 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: are kind of in the same boat. Like they faced 303 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: one of the toughest schedules in the league to date. 304 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: Right they've seen elite defenses in Dallas, they faced the 305 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: Chiefs awesome defense, and they've kind of showed well even 306 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: against the Eagles. Is this a case where maybe the 307 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Jets are stepping down in class a little bit and 308 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: there's a chance Zach Wilson, I don't know, has some success. 309 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: And certainly looks like the locker room doesn't hate him anymore. 310 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: To answer your question, the when I say priors the 311 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: expectation of where a team is, and a lot of people, 312 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, some people disagree with me and say, wait 313 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: a minute. You know I was passing out Halloween candy. 314 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: We're deep into the season, you know, all I care 315 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: about is what I saw this year. But the truth is, 316 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: it really is not a big enough sample size. The 317 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: team's played eight games, and it's not enough to know 318 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: who's really good and who isn't good. 319 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: You know. 320 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: The extreme example is probably baseball, where all the time 321 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: you see situations like the Pittsburgh Pirates, you know, have 322 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: the division lead early in May, and it's just not 323 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: enough games. Now, football, the games are more meaningful than baseball. 324 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: But I would say is a good rule of thumb 325 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: this time. 326 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Of year, maybe one third should be your expectation based 327 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: upon coming into the season, how good do I think 328 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: a team should be? 329 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: And two thirds the actual data. 330 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Now, having said all that, when Kirk Cousins goes down 331 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: for the Vikings, well, you know, throw all the priors 332 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: into the garbage can. It doesn't matter anymore because you 333 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: know it's such a dramatic, you know, downgraded quarterback. 334 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: Now we know all the info and zone versus man 335 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 3: for Zach Wilson, all that stuff's baked into the line. 336 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: But I'll just say, Steve, one thing I had missed. 337 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: I was on the Cowboys against the Chargers on that 338 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: Monday night game. One thing I had missed was the 339 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 3: value of Corey Linsley and how much they missed him 340 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 3: in the middle. The backup, the kid named Clap. He 341 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: got destroyed against Allan. It's like I'm talking, he could 342 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: do nothing. They got no They had no run game. 343 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: And Lindsley was out again last week and I was 344 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 3: on the Chargers against the Bears. The Bears don't have 345 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: that interioror defensive push. Now you're back against Quinn and 346 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: Williams of the Jets, who he can wreck a game. 347 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: I just wonder, are we undervaluing the loss of, for instance, 348 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: of Corey Linsley at center. 349 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, a great question, and I'm not gonna fake 350 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: it with you, Jason. I'll be honest. I am not 351 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: a position guy, a one guy. I'll have I've got 352 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: my data with how much is a backup quarterback versus 353 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. But I'm the wrong man for you 354 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: in terms of individual players and their impact. I'm the 355 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: guy that says it's all overrated as far as injuries 356 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: like quarterbacks matter. The even like a Justin Jefferson for instance, 357 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: is worth like a point in a quarter to the 358 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: point spread, and it's very rare. 359 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: You get, you get like a Donald you get, you get. 360 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: Some players can be worth just over one point to 361 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: the to the overall point spread. Most running backs aren't 362 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: worth anything, and so so I try not to overreact 363 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: to injuries other than cluster injuries, and those certainly can 364 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: impact a team. And you know, this year, more than 365 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: any year, the quarterback injuries have been what you had 366 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: to really pay attention to. And it's very difficult to 367 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: invest in teams. Well, we don't even know it's going 368 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: to start a quarterback for some of these teams, much less, 369 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: you know, try to evaluate like an interior lineman and 370 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: the like. 371 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: That's fair. Let's go quickly to this Seahawks Ravens game. 372 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm a little surprised the line is six. 373 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 3: I know an easy way is oh well, wait a minute. 374 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: Was it Baltimore favored by like three against the Lions 375 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago and the same Lions 376 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: team that lost at home to Seattle and line six? 377 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: And I don't know, Steve talk me through this, like, 378 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 3: is this just a bad matchup for Gino Smith? Is 379 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: it Baltimore team peaking and you're paying attacks for having 380 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: to take get Baltimore at the top of the market 381 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: where some people have them as the number one team 382 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: in the NFL. I don't. I mean, we saw this 383 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 3: is Baltimore team we saw at home lose to Gardner 384 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 3: Minshew in overtime. Again, they should have won, but they 385 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 3: certainly were not covering that game at any point. I 386 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: don't know. Are you as high on the Ravens as 387 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: the market? 388 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: I love where you're going here for the comp the 389 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: whole idea of it's like we're going to buy a 390 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: new home, right and let's see how much it should cost. Well, Baltimore, 391 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: if you wanted to bet on Baltimore, you could have 392 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: laid three against a very good Detroit team that's, you know, 393 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: better than Seattle, but just by a little bit, not 394 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: by more than like a point and a half. And 395 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: now you're laying six, and that doesn't sound like a 396 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: big difference, But those numbers are so those are three, four, 397 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: six or such key numbers. So the Baltimore at tax 398 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: has hit here this week. I have power ratings. I 399 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: have Baltimore tied for third, five points better than an 400 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: average team. 401 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Who are your top who are your top two? And 402 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: who are they tied with? If you don't mind me 403 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: as Kansas. 404 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: City six, Philly five and a half, and Baltimore and 405 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: Miami five are fives and Dallas is a four and 406 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: a half. 407 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: Bengals in Buffalo and Detroit are three and a half. 408 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: So I want to comment on this. 409 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: It is the year of parody in college football and 410 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. I've never seen a year and a much 411 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: more an NFL expert than a college football expert. But 412 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: there are so many teams that can win the national 413 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: championship in college and in the NFL. There's so many 414 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: teams that could win the Super Bowl. It would not 415 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: be unusual this time of year. I might have a 416 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: team rated eight points better and the second place team 417 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: seven and the third place team five, and there would 418 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: already be a clear division in terms of what the 419 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: top tier teams were now we were there at week five. 420 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: I had San Francisco at that point nine points better 421 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: than an average team. 422 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: And the Wheels have just come off with. 423 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: The injuries and with subpark quarterback play the last few games. 424 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: But this thing is wide open, very difficult to project 425 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: who's going to actually win. Like Baltimore is a great 426 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: regular season game, do we trust them to win playoff games? 427 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: I don't. 428 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great point. Lamar Jackson has struggled I 429 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: think one and three in the postseason, So I don't know. 430 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: Do you have anything on Raven Seattle like you would agree? Though? 431 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: If you're back Baltimore here, you're buying at the top 432 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 3: of the market, which usually is not a great move. 433 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm going to give a recommendation as far 434 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: as a method. Let me emphasize it's difficult to win 435 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: in sports betting, but I can tell you how you're 436 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: not going to win if you take a look at 437 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: what the line is early in the week, and the 438 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: line in this game was four and a half and 439 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: you see a dramatic move to a key number or 440 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: through a key number, and so this line moved to 441 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: the key number of six. So you're now you're paying 442 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: an extra point and a half in point spread tax 443 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: and you're not going to win being the last person 444 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: to bet on Baltimore. If you would have laid four 445 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: and a half, I could you could make a case 446 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: for it, absolutely and a team that's peaking, But now 447 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: the tax is just too high. So doesn't mean you 448 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: bet Seattle. You cannot bet Baltimore and have a good wager. 449 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: In my opinion, you lean to Seattle at six, and 450 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: we're starting to get interested in the Seahawks, a team 451 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: that frankly, my only concern is if you watch that 452 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: game against Cleveland that was somewhat of a phony final. 453 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: The Cleveland Seattle game. 454 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: Was evenly in Cleveland easily could have won that game. 455 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: Do you think we see a six and a half 456 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 3: here or no? 457 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Probably because the public, you know, it's gonna look at 458 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: Baltimore and how dominant that performance was against Detroit, and 459 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: they're also you know, it's interesting if Jason, did you 460 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: catch the final two minutes of the Arizona Baltimore game. 461 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: I was at the Chargers Bears, but I have seen 462 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: what went down. I mean, it's comical. The Ravens had 463 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 3: that game in the bag and I don't know how 464 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: Nel How's Nelson agalare on the handsteat like, I can't 465 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: catch all that's been in the case for years. 466 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: So my my friend Gil Alexander does a great job 467 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: hosting his show and he he calls it Plinko. That's 468 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: that big Plinko game and prices right, it's a. 469 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Big hotey. 470 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: And then it falls into a bucket at the end, 471 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: and the bucket is whether you cover or you don't cover. 472 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: So Baltimore is up by you know, they're styling, and 473 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: they're up seventeen. They're going to cover, and then somehow 474 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: Arizona comes back and they go for two because the 475 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: analytics are correct to say go for two down eleven, 476 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: and they cut it to nine. So now they're going 477 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: to cover, but no, Baltimore comes back and gets a 478 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: touchdown and they're going to cover, and then somehow Arizona 479 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: scores a touchdown to knock it down to ten, and 480 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: it comes down to the two point conversion and that 481 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: will decide the nine point spread and they get it, 482 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: but there's a penalty, so they have to run it 483 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: again and they don't get it, so. 484 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: Baltimore will cover, but there's an on side kick. 485 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: You see where I'm going that about half of these 486 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: games literally come down to just random noise, and it's 487 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: easy to say, well, it's all luck, but you know, 488 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I'll talk about it. I like to talk about bets 489 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: I win, not lose. Yeah, my summer, I bet Baltimore 490 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: Game of the Year in that game minus six. See, 491 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: that's how pros win each and every year in their 492 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: own bets, because they have bets that are too good 493 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: to be true that you never could believe actually exist 494 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: and didn't have to sweat any of that if you 495 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: had Baltimore min a six. 496 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: So, for instance, in the contest where you're twenty nine 497 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: to eleven, did you have Baltimore or Arizona last? 498 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: It's a great question. So I'm in two contests. I 499 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: leaned to Baltimore in the game. And then the Circa 500 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: the point spread I believe was nine, and I know 501 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: nine is the deadest of all numbers. Could have been 502 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: nine and a half. And in the west Gate it 503 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: was eight and a half. So I did have Baltimore 504 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: in the Westgate contest and lost with minus eight and 505 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: a half. But because the line was nine and a 506 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: half in circa, I said, you know, it's so unlike 507 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: it lands nine, but why tempt fate. It's still going 508 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: to land on any one number, like one point three 509 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: percent of the time. 510 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: So it was I lucked out. 511 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: If it had been eight and a half, it might 512 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: have been on my Circa card, but it wasn't. 513 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: So I went four and one. Last week. 514 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm embarrassed to say I had a bad loss. 515 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: I was on the forty nine Ers minus three and 516 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: a half when I submitted that line was four and 517 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: a half, and I was like, well, you know, the 518 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: Niners had been six earlier in the week. 519 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: Now my quarterback's going to play, he's out of concussion protocol. 520 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to get good line value, 521 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: and then with dread, I watched the game and the 522 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: Bengals just completely dominated. 523 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, they were completely the right side in that game. 524 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 3: It's frustrating when you put in a contest play and 525 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: then you realize in the first quarter I'm on the 526 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 3: wrong side. I had Steelers, Jags and I don't know 527 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: why I can't quit the Steelers, Steve, and it's just 528 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 3: it's super frustrating. They kill me. But let me move 529 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: on to another game that I find super interesting. So 530 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: the Saints are laying kind of a big number at home. 531 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: I'm seeing it's up to nine. I haven't seen if 532 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: the contest line is out yet and what they're at. 533 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 3: But the Saints are at home against Tea Bag the 534 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: Batman and Chicago back to back road games. Saints looked 535 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 3: sharp last week destroying the Colts. Incomes a Bears team 536 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 3: that's really going nowhere. The quarterback looked extremely limited against 537 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: the Chargers, and now he's got to face a better defense. 538 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: If you're of the belief that Lattimore can do some 539 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 3: damage and erase DJ Moore, Like, I don't know where 540 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 3: the Bears move the football, Like they're not gonna be 541 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: able to run on the Saints. Nobody really has the 542 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. But is this a game you 543 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: can play at at eight or nine? 544 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: Probably not. 545 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: It's a game you can invest in if you're familiar 546 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: with teaser betting, of course, where you get the extra 547 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: you give up the extra six you get six points. 548 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 2: But you have to win two games. And you know 549 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: there's a book. 550 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm actually friends with Stanford Wong, So he wrote a 551 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: book Sharp Sports Betting, and there's an entire chapter in 552 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: that book. It was and it came out like in 553 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: two thousand on how to win betting NFL teasers And 554 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: this is the poster child of a game you want 555 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: to play because you can see the Bears hanging around, 556 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: but they're very unlikely to win the lines eight and 557 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: a half. In most places, you can tease them down 558 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: from eight and a half to two and a half. 559 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: So the Saints are an excellent teaser leg along with 560 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. In terms of a candidate, I don't 561 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: want to lay eight. I don't want lay eight and 562 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: a half, but I'll certainly lay two or two and 563 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: a half in those games in teasers, provided you have 564 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: a sports book that has six point teasers. 565 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 2: Mius one twenty. 566 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: In Vegas, we're donezo with teasers. Southern Nevada wants no 567 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: more part of NFL teasers. Every single book charges more 568 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: now than minus one twenty. You cannot play them. 569 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 3: I know it's one twenty off shore? What is it 570 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 3: in Vegas? 571 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: One thirty anywhere from MIAs one twenty five to MIAs one. 572 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: And these Hall of Fame bookmakers don't want any more 573 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: part of any teasers. 574 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: They still don't want anyone to win. 575 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago was a monster teaser weekend, and we 576 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 3: warned people last week it could be dangerous, and there was, 577 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: of course a couple upsets. So that's interesting. You gave 578 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: two favorites at home. I like those Browns and Saints, 579 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But there is there an underdog 580 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: that you would toss in the mix to push them 581 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 3: up from say two and a half to maybe eight 582 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 3: and a half. 583 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: Sure, so I think the Miami Dolphins plus two to 584 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: plus eight is a good teaser. 585 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: I get it. 586 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: The Dolphins have played two games against contending teams and 587 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: they got murdered by Buffalo and Miami. And it's a 588 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: valid point. But I can't get past the point. Maybe 589 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm biased. Remember how bad Buffalo played against Jacksonville in London, 590 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: going out there late in a bad travel spot. So 591 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: now Casey goes to Denver, they go to altitude, they 592 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: come back to Kansas City. I haven't looked at the 593 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: at the world map lately, but I did play risk 594 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: as a kid, and Germany's a long way away Kansas 595 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: City and now flying out on Thursday, Miami's been there longer. 596 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: Advantage Miami. 597 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: And also, if any team can get me in the 598 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: back door, if Miami's down ten or fourteen points, I'm 599 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: going to count on them to go ahead and get 600 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,719 Speaker 1: me a score to cover the teaser. I don't want 601 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: to bet Miami plus two because what does Patrick Malmes 602 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: do win close games for Kansas City? But teaser looks 603 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: good to me. Miami plus two to plus eight. 604 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 3: Football is back. No more preseason games. The regular season 605 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 3: is here. While we all love watching our favorite teams 606 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: on television, there is nothing better than being in a 607 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: game live and in person. And the best way to 608 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: get tickets to any of these games is on game Time, 609 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: the fastest growing ticketing app in the US. 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That's Jmac for twenty dollars off no matter 617 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: where you live, get out and have some fun this week. 618 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: Download game Time Today, last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. 619 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 3: Another team that's killed me all season in the contest 620 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: is the Green Bay Packers. It just it's I cannot 621 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: believe that I've lost. I think I'm zero to three 622 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: backing the Packers this year, the worst first half team 623 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: in the league. Now they appear to be facing Brett 624 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: rippon the backup for Stafford. The Packers laying a field 625 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: goal at home. Is this something you would consider in 626 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 3: the contest? 627 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Gosh, you know, it's like Charlie Brown with Lucy holding 628 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: the football and you want to keep betting on the 629 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Packers and she keeps yanking the ball away and surely 630 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: they're going to find a way to score off the 631 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: bye week in the first half, and they just Jordan 632 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Love is not the answer, and that's becoming very clear. 633 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: But I don't want I don't want the. 634 00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: Rams, fragile team that has superstars but no depth, and 635 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: now they're traveling from La you know, to I'm sure 636 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: it's not going to be very I mean, it's not 637 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: going to snow. The weather's actually pretty good, but I 638 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: still yeah, I think I think that one of the 639 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: things that's not so much that you go to into 640 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: frigid cold when you're in your first game of the 641 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: year and Miami, this happened in Philly when's in its fifties. 642 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: It throws everything off a little bit. I'll lean to 643 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay minus three, but I'm not getting involved. 644 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: Can you talk a little bit, Steve about the You know, 645 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: obviously the pros bet numbers, they don't bet teams. So 646 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: two and a half was the number on Panthers Colts. 647 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: And you can look on certain apps where if you 648 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: plug in the sharp books I'm assuming you you know 649 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: which are the Sharper books, it looks like this is 650 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: headed from two and a half to two for the Panthers. 651 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: Would you say this is a potential contest play or 652 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: a buye for you in maybe even a teaser Carolina Panthers. 653 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Carolina is a good teaser. I like the 654 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: fact that it's a Reich revenge game. 655 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: It's funny. Last week I bet on Carolina. That was 656 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: my big wager. 657 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, I lose plenty of big wagers 658 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: as well, but I like talking about winners more because 659 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: winless team off of bye great spot for Carolina. I'm like, 660 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: after this game, it's like Jeff Spiccoli and Fast Times 661 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: at Ridgemont High On. 662 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 2: Once I passed. 663 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, I'm just gonna stay away from that side 664 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: of the building the rest of my time in high school. 665 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like I got to go back. 666 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: To mister Han's class here and invest in New Orleans 667 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: again because I like the fact, and invest in Carolina 668 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: because Reich has revenge against Indy and who is Indy? 669 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: If there's one theme I've seen this year, who are 670 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: these mediocre bad teams to be laying field goals against? 671 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: You know, the worst teams in the NFL. 672 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: Nobody's really that bad, So got into my head. 673 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: I'd bet a Carolina two and a half, but you 674 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: really wanted the three, and that's what the pros bet. 675 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: They got the three, but if you missed the three, 676 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: the teaser absolutely up to eight and a half. 677 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: So good teaser week. 678 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: There's four different legs that I like, two favorites and 679 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: two dogs. 680 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, this Raiders Giants game obviously fire their head coach. Instantly, 681 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: I went to go bet the Raiders on the fire 682 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 3: the coach, bump, and then they could decide to go 683 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: to the backup quarterback. The new coach, Antonio Pierce or 684 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: the interim, is a former Giants player. I think the 685 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: Giants are trashed, and they have been all season. I 686 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: see one and a half is what the Raiders are favored. 687 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 3: But is it d Is it dangerous to back a 688 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: team here? Because I think the psychology will put even 689 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 3: the regular gamblers, not the big bunny guys, on the 690 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: Raiders here. I don't think anybody wants the Giants. Is 691 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: it risky to take the Raiders? 692 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Fascinating game. Of course, my local team the Raiders. 693 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, I don't care, but my son 694 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: did like going to an exhibition game. So your instincts 695 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: were spot on. You fire your coach any sport, I 696 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: don't care if it's hockey, baseball, you. 697 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: Want to bet on that team. 698 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: But here's a weird animal where you didn't just fire 699 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: the coach, You fire the GM and you fired the 700 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: quarterback right, so you cleaned outse. 701 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: You told Jimmy g take some. 702 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Time off O'Connell, who was mister August. He was phenomenal 703 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: in preseason. He was terrible against the Charges, just awful. 704 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: I know he's getting exact eight times. 705 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: Right in the second half, but yeah, yeah. 706 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: So I can't get there. For some reasons, the Raiders 707 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: had the one of the worst home crowds in the NFL, 708 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: even though we like our team. It's a great destination city, 709 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: so whenever Pittsburgh or New York or anybody comes to 710 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: our city, they take over the stadium. So there's gonna 711 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: be more Giants fan than Raiders fans. So there won't 712 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: be a home crowd advantage, certainly in this game. And 713 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't think O'Connell can play at all. Compared I 714 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: got g just Jimmy g just a little bit worse 715 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: than an average quarterback, and I got Oconna like four 716 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: and a half points worse. So that's a four point swing. 717 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: And I like what the Giants did. I mean, the 718 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: Giants are losing games but playing better. I mean, they 719 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: obviously should beat in the Jets, they should have beaten Buffalo. 720 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Just a lot of reasons that I would want that. 721 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: I'd say the Giants are undervalued. I think the Giants 722 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: are going to win the game. 723 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, damn. I was looking at Raiders in the contest. 724 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: This whole Kirk Cousins out Jaren Hall in. I don't 725 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 3: think Josh Dobbs is going to get the start off 726 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: being with the team for like three days. Stranger things 727 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 3: have happened. Everybody was betting Atlanta early in the week. 728 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: It now looks like it's coming back a little toward 729 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 3: the Vikings. I don't know. We saw Atlanta look really 730 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 3: pedestrian last week against will Levis. They looked ill prepared, 731 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: right Steve. I mean, after maybe the first two bombs, 732 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 3: you would think, okay, let's not give up another one, 733 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 3: and Will Levis just kept burning them. I don't think 734 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: Hall can do that this Grady jarreted injury. I know 735 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: you said you're not big on one offs, but he's 736 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 3: huge in the middle for them. They're they've been great 737 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: stopping the run. It'll be Taylor Heineke against I think 738 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 3: Jared Hall. Do the Falcons interest you it? Four? 739 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: No? 740 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: And by the way, this probably I differentiate me from 741 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of other guests you're going to 742 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: have people are paid to be content providers, they're paid 743 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: to be entertaining. 744 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: They're paid to. 745 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Give out a strong opinion, say wow, I really like 746 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: the Falcons, I really like the Vikings. 747 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm boring the vast majority. 748 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: If there's one takeaway people listening should have is the 749 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: lines are right. The lines on almost every game are correct. 750 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: And the way people make money, you know they make money, 751 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: they make money with breaking news. All of a sudden, 752 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: word comes out that there's a quarterback changer, there's a 753 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: weather change, and they're getting to it. Before the line 754 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: was we'll talk about if we can the New England 755 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: Patriots game next. Yes, regarding that, but here's a situation 756 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: where I mean, I make the game. I have Atlanta 757 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: three points better, but I'm just guessing. I don't know 758 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: how good Haull is. I've got them as a third 759 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: string quarterback, so I've got it being a good six 760 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: point downgrade from Kirk Cousins. And given that there's no 761 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,479 Speaker 1: real value, I will say this, my gut says under 762 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 1: because I think both teams are going to say themselves, 763 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: you know what, if we don't make any mistakes and 764 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: we take care of the ball, we can win this game. 765 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: So wait, so does that mean with Cousins, you would 766 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 3: have had the Vikings favored by three on the road. 767 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: I would have had a six point adjustment, so I 768 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: would have had the Vikings Mys two oh. 769 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 3: Vices minus two? Right, okay, yeah, interesting, All right, let's 770 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 3: go to you said Patriots and Washington. I saw. I 771 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: don't know how much you care about these syndicates or whatever, 772 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: but I saw one of them gave out the Patriots 773 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 3: at two and a half on I think Monday, to 774 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 3: get ahead of the Washington trade news. And you know 775 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 3: they seem to be right. A line's currently Patriots three. 776 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: This is the most key number in gambling. How do 777 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 3: you handle this one? 778 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 779 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: So, you know, pulling back the curtain. This is how 780 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: people make money betting the NFL. This one game, I 781 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: can explain it. Who do I like in this game? 782 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't like anybody. I leen Washington at plus three? Well, 783 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: what good am I? 784 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: Well? 785 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean I follow all these betting syndicates and these 786 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: and these different guys that a respect, including but not 787 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: limited to Doctor Bob, Sports Right Angle, sports tailgate tents. 788 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that move the market. So 789 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 1: as soon as they give out the Patriots MYS two. 790 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,280 Speaker 2: And a half. 791 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: I know it's probably gonna move, and my numbers made 792 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: it like the line like two point seventy five. 793 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So I invested. 794 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: I took the Patriots knowing it would go up, and 795 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: then it went up to three, and then another syndicate 796 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: released it and then went up to three and a half, 797 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: which I thought was ludicrous. 798 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: And I'm like, I get it. 799 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: Washington, you know, raised up the white flag, got rid 800 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: of a couple of malecontents on defense, they should be 801 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: a little bit worse. But who are the Patriots without 802 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: their number one receiver born and frankly, with no receivers, 803 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: Who the heck are the Patriots to be laying three 804 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: and a half. So the line goes up to three 805 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: and a half, and then all of a sudden incomes 806 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: the sharp money on plus three and a half. And 807 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: You're like, well, I thought the Sharp's like the Patriots. No, 808 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: the Sharp's like the Patriots mis two and a half, 809 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: and the Sharp's like Washington plus three and a half 810 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: a lot. 811 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: How can that possibly be true? 812 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: Because Jason, if they play these games, this game one 813 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: hundred times, I'm gonna simplify this, forty five percent of 814 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: the time, New England's going to kill them forty five 815 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: percent of the time, Washington's gonna cover all numbers, and 816 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: ten percent of the time New England's gonna win by 817 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: exactly three. So think about that. If you bet New 818 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: England mis two and a half, you're styling, you're winning 819 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: fifty five percent of the time. Your ROI is excellent 820 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: five percent. If you're betting Washington you're plus three and 821 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: a half. You're also styling and winning fifty five percent 822 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: of the time. Now, if I had to make a 823 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: decision on three, which I don't, I actually think Washington 824 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: probably would be the side I would look towards. But 825 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: you can see that this is a game where when 826 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: it lands three at the end, I'll say, if you 827 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: didn't win bet in this game, you're just not trying 828 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: hard enough. The pros who are working full time in 829 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: their pockets, they do have both teams. They've got New 830 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: England last two and a half and Washington plus three 831 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: and a half. 832 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 2: Despite every other expert. 833 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: Coming on and telling you which side is the clear 834 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: cut right side. It's just the way that everyone I 835 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: know that lives on golf courses instead of doing podcasts 836 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: from basements makes money betting sports. 837 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: I love that this whole Belichick versus rookie quarterbacks. I 838 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 3: know Howell is not technically a rookie. He's in year two, 839 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: but I think he started one game last year, so 840 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 3: he's in what the start number, like nine of his career. 841 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 3: They've faced the Patriots defense two or twice, Josh Allen, 842 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo, who they lost to. Of course I had 843 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: the Patriots plus two in that game, the safety thanks 844 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: for Nothing, Mac Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Zach Wilson, who 845 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 3: they beat, and then Jalen Hurts. It feels like a 846 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 3: big step down for a Patriots defense to go against 847 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 3: Sam Howell. I don't know. I know that stuff doesn't factor. 848 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: You're into your equation, but like when you when you 849 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: see it at three, do you take any of that 850 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 3: into account? Do you just betting the number irrelevantly? 851 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: No, No, it's a great point because that's just the 852 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: starting point. So I make my number based on my 853 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: power rating. Then you look at travel, you look at matchups, 854 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: you look at circumstances. Certainly, you know Belichick great against 855 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: you know inexperienced quarterbacks. But let me ask you this, 856 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: who's the better coach right now? Andy Reid or Bill Belichick? 857 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 3: Would you say, right now Andy Reid? 858 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: All right, Well, Andy Reid couldn't stop Sam Howe, and 859 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, bad example. If I if I, if I 860 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: look at the at Philadelphia's head coach, though, you would 861 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: absolutely say, you know, he's doing a fine job, and 862 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: he couldn't stop how in both their games and they 863 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: gave up their Yeah. 864 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: No point divisional matchup. That's a good point, Sam Howell. 865 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 3: Ate him up now. Sam Howell steps out of vision 866 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 3: against the Bears and he can't do a damn thing. 867 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. 868 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: The reason I sorry, I know Andy Reid doesn't coach 869 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: for Philadelphia. Where I'm going at is like even when 870 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: we ask who's the best coach in the NFL and 871 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: how much is he worth, I'd make a case that 872 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: none of them are worth more than like a point 873 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: a half. You know, there's like no clear cut great 874 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: NFL coach that I would favor over just an average coach. 875 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I like Hardbob, but maybe that's just 876 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: because he cheats and he gets away with it. 877 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, look at this shot. It busy all right, Steve, 878 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: we could wrap up with this one. So there were 879 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 3: I think there were six or seven games Sunday including 880 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 3: Monday that were two and a half three this weekend, 881 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 3: and the Houston Texans fit that. This is a tough one, 882 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay coming off the extra rest, whatever you factor 883 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 3: that into your handicap after the Buffalo win or Buffalo lost, 884 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: sorry but cover and now they go to Houston Texans 885 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 3: back home. CJ. Stroud came back to earth a little bit, 886 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: and as you saw last week against Carolina, I had 887 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 3: Carolina as well. I don't know, I irrationally like Houston 888 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 3: in this spot, and I don't irrationally ever like Houston 889 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: anything on this game. 890 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: You know. 891 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: It's one of those If there's one takeaway I would 892 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: have is look at these odds services and have multiple 893 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: outs because I'm just staring at the screen and I'm like, 894 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: I lean a little bit to Houston. They're clearly the 895 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: better team and their home, and I think it was 896 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: forgivable that Carolina was in a great spot last week 897 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: and Houston could have won. If you watched that game, 898 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: that was a coin flip and you can still get 899 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: mis two and a half. 900 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 2: So I look at the screen in Vegas. 901 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: There's two books in Vegas, including the local south Point 902 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: by the way, Jason, they don't let me bet there, 903 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: but I hold no grudges and I recommend them to 904 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: all my friends to go ahead and play against the 905 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: south Point. And so you can get a nice Mis 906 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: two and half laid a dollar ten by example, I 907 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: think if you wait it out, if you like Tampa, you. 908 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 2: Could probably get a three. 909 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: I know this is boring where I'm not giving you 910 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: definitive sides if I had to prefer it, though, I 911 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: do like the Houston Mis two and a half, and 912 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: that's certainly a potential play I'll have in the contest. 913 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 914 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: I had read someone, a Vegas guy, I think his 915 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: name is Fogel, wrote about the psychology of minus two 916 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 3: and a half and if the lines at two and 917 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 3: a half, it means that or according to this guy, 918 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 3: that the sharp betters the big pros they don't like 919 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 3: the favorite enough or it would be a three, and 920 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 3: maybe you lean away from teams taking a favorite at 921 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 3: two and a half. I hope I didn't butcher what 922 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: he wrote or said. 923 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 2: No, I think spot on, But that's a post. 924 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: So if the game's about to kick off and you 925 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 1: see a spread at two and a half, that means 926 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: the pros don't like it enough. Throw that in the 927 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: garbage can. Earlier in the betting cycle. We're still midweek, 928 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: and as an example, look at New England. 929 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: How gimme give me, give me some. 930 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: Patriots mius two and a half against the Washington depleted team. 931 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 2: Right. 932 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: But the problem is, like you said, if the misus 933 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: two and a half really is a good wager, it's 934 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: going to disappear before Sunday morning and you're not going 935 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: to be able to. 936 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: Get at it. 937 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: If it's still there sitting out there on Sunday morning, 938 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: it's probably no good anymore. 939 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: I do want to talk about asymmetric risk. 940 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: There are certain bets that you should never make early 941 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: in the week, Like a plus two and a half 942 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: is a good example. Never bet a plus two and 943 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: a half unless the game's about to kick off. Hold out, 944 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: because you know what the worst case scenario, it goes 945 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: down to two or plus one and a half. 946 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: It's almost the same thing. Games don't land on two very. 947 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: Often, but it's a disaster if you bet a plus 948 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: two and a half and then you wake up on 949 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: Sunday morning, gope and you see plus three, and it's 950 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: happened to all of us. Same thing applies to like 951 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: betting a plus nine and a half. How silly do 952 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: you feel bet a plus and nine and a half 953 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: and then saying, oh, it's plus ten and they're kicking off. 954 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 2: Well, it's funny. 955 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: Last week, I my first bet was Chargers against the Bears, 956 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 3: and it was like nine and a half, and of 957 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 3: course it comes down to eight and I'm like, well, shit, 958 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 3: damn it, I got a terrible number. That was a 959 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: horrible job by me, and it was a rare no 960 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 3: sweat cover. I mean, how much I don't know, Steve, 961 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: how much can you say, well, you know what, maybe 962 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be impacted by the line moving a point 963 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,720 Speaker 3: and point and a half. Closing line value, Sure, historically 964 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: it has better, but it's I don't know, closing line 965 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 3: value the same as it was to you fifteen twenty 966 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 3: years ago. 967 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: Given market was more important. 968 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 1: And you know, just off the top of my head, 969 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland Seattle just one game. If did you bet Cleveland 970 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: Seattle last week, well then you won. 971 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 2: How can I possibly say that? 972 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: Because if you early in the week, if you laid 973 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: three or three and a half with Seattle, you cashed 974 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: and if you saw, hey, you know, the public's on Seattle. 975 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: Some pros are on Seattle. Oh wait it out, write 976 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: a post. It's painted for and here come the four 977 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: and a halfs popping up. You know, and you could 978 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: have won with the dog plus four and a half. 979 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 3: You know. 980 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: There's a Green Bay Atlanta game week one, and there's 981 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: every year. There's numerous examples where Atlanta wins that game. 982 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 2: I believe they won by one or two. 983 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: I think they won by two and it closed Atlantami 984 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: was two and a half and Atlanta was plus one. 985 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: Early in the betting cycle, look, the first game of 986 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: the year, the first game Philly plays men the line 987 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: seven and a half. They bet it all the way 988 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: down to six circa as a five and a half 989 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: fiddle in the middle. Kirk Cousins and company go in 990 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: the back door and they lose by six, and everyone 991 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: everybody wins. Of course, everybody doesn't win, but everybody that's 992 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,919 Speaker 1: really dialed in and paying attention, and it's maniacal about 993 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: paying attention to all these spreads wins on and you're right, 994 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: it's only like one out of thirty games. But that 995 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: makes the difference instead of going fifteen and fifteen, now 996 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: you're going sixteen and fourteen and suddenly you're making money. 997 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. So we talked about a lot of games, Steve. 998 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 3: In the contest, for instance, I think I'm probably going 999 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 3: to do two stupid favorites over a touchdown. Now I 1000 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 3: don't have the numbers historically, how of over a touchdown 1001 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 3: favors done? But Browns and Saints in the contest. One 1002 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: idea I've been doing is give me who you think 1003 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 3: are going to be the five most picked teams and 1004 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 3: try to avoid those because obviously we know it's you know, 1005 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 3: five thousand people in the contest, a lot of dead money, 1006 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 3: dumb money is probably going to gravitate toward the five 1007 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 3: automatic of the most picked teams, if you wouldn't mind, 1008 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: I'm curious who you think the five most picked will 1009 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 3: be this week. 1010 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: Okay, you might not like my answer because I can't 1011 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: answer it yet. Because this whole CLV closing line value 1012 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: has become so important to people. And remember everyone in 1013 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: this contest and poning up a thousand dollars, so they're 1014 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: serious betters, and they want line closing line value, So 1015 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: there will be injury reports, practice reports that will come out, 1016 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: and you will see line moves. 1017 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: And if the look at the Bills Bengals. 1018 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 1: If the Bengals closed minus three, then the Bengals are 1019 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: going to be one of the top five picks easily. 1020 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: But if that line closes pick, then the Bills plus 1021 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: two will be one of. 1022 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: The biggest picks. 1023 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: So it's too early for me to go ahead and 1024 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: predict who everyone is going to fire out. 1025 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: Hold On, you said all that, Steven, hold On, it 1026 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 3: looks it looks like the lines. I just got the email, 1027 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 3: So Bengals are one and a half. So you think 1028 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 3: if the line is three comes Saturday, everybody's going to 1029 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 3: put in Bengals. 1030 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: Everyone is going to see the and and bet the 1031 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: Bengals exactly right, And so they're going to shy away 1032 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: from the Bills because they're going to say, you know what, 1033 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: if I can bet the Bills plus two and a 1034 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,319 Speaker 1: half or even a plus three, if that happens, why 1035 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: why why I'm basically betting on them with my contest selection. 1036 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 1: Why bet on them with a bad number? So I 1037 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: will say that the most it's rare that any spread 1038 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: above seven becomes the number one pick in a contest 1039 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,399 Speaker 1: without closing line value. People like to play games were 1040 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: more just pick the winner and you're gonna wind up, 1041 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,319 Speaker 1: you know, with that team pulling back the curtain one 1042 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: more time. 1043 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 2: A lot of people have proxies in the contest. 1044 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm giving away too much here, but proxy. Yeah, yeah, 1045 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,760 Speaker 1: So so you've got a deadline. I'm assuming that maybe 1046 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: Friday two pm is your deadline. 1047 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 3: To get to Saturday, Saturday one pm Pacific. 1048 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've got you've got a proxy that's tremendous. Yes, 1049 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: and your proxy is letting you submit maybe your friends 1050 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: and family, you know. But but I can tell you, 1051 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: like I'm friends like with Foxy Roxy, who's like one 1052 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: of the proxies, Foxy Roxy, and she's putting in on 1053 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: Friday at the sir one of the Circus Sports satellite 1054 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: locations at the Tuscany. She's got like a stack of 1055 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: cards that are like three two thousand deep, and she's 1056 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: like going and putting in all the Survivor and billions. 1057 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: She's no Vegas Maddie, that's for sure. That's the guy 1058 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: I use. 1059 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:16,399 Speaker 3: He's great. 1060 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: Yes, But what happens now is that Let's say there's 1061 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: a line move on Thursday night Friday morning, Well, a 1062 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: lot of her people are going to be playing that 1063 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: line move. But once they've submitted all those plays on 1064 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, say something dramatic happens Friday night Saturday at noon, 1065 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: and now all this other money has already been entered. 1066 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 1: So I love investing in a contest on a late 1067 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 1: breaking news situation knowing you're right. 1068 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,320 Speaker 2: I got to be five thousand other people. 1069 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: So I don't want to make the same plays everyone 1070 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: else is making, But I love getting closing line value 1071 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: that everyone else who's submitted early isn't going to get. 1072 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: And certainly anyone they used the Thursday game has to 1073 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,240 Speaker 1: submit all their plays by today. 1074 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 3: I'll do I'll do my best. Guess I think Chiefs 1075 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: at one and a half will de only be top five, right? 1076 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 3: Would you agree? 1077 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: Yes? I will. The narrative Mahomes wins all the close games. 1078 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 3: I think probably Rams. No, No, not Rams. I'm with 1079 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 3: the backup quarterback. I'm sorry. Patriots minus three. 1080 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure about that. 1081 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think they would trust the Patriots, 1082 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay minus three could well as soon 1083 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: as Stafford gets reported out. The Packers will be a 1084 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: top five for certain. 1085 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 3: Eagles are Cowboys. That's probably gonna be too split. Or 1086 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 3: maybe both will be in the top five, which is rare, 1087 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 3: but now. 1088 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: Here's one that it is because I hate it when 1089 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: people talk about line moves, but they've already occurred, So 1090 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: I will I will make a bold prediction. Right now, 1091 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: you can get Dallas plus three at reduced veig I 1092 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: don't understand this line. The Eagles are just a smidge 1093 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 1: better than Dallas. Home field's worth maximum point and a half, 1094 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: And I might be kind, I think this line should. 1095 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 2: Be two and a half and you're getting three. 1096 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: So the Cowboys would indeed be a best bet and 1097 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: a good investment in my opinion. 1098 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,400 Speaker 3: At plus three, okay, and then Bengals we know is 1099 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 3: going to be in at one and a half, and 1100 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 3: then probably Jets at three and a half, right. 1101 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 2: I would you know? 1102 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: I would think so except for the you know, this 1103 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,479 Speaker 1: market support for the Chargers has shocked me. I can't 1104 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 1: believe that this line has gone to three and a 1105 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 1: half and stayed there. Like I said, my numbers overwhelmingly 1106 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: support the Jets. So my two best bets would be 1107 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: two dogs. I take the Jets three and a half 1108 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: and Dallas plus three. 1109 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you make, Steve of the Dallas Cowboys. 1110 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 3: I think I'm almost certain they took heavy money before 1111 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers game, and all that big money 1112 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 3: got their ass kicked. And then Dallas took a lot 1113 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 3: of money last week. He gets the Rams and they delivered. 1114 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 3: It feels like I think, I think you're right. Plus 1115 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 3: three probably is going to be a lot of cowboy 1116 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 3: money in the contest and in the books. 1117 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So think about this. 1118 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: The Niners were styling undefeated, playing better than anybody in 1119 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: the NFL, and they were laying three to Dallas. Now 1120 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: we got the Eagles. We got Hurts who barely ran 1121 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: last week ycause he had a brace on his knee 1122 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 1: the week before and he didn't have any usage. And 1123 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 1: the Eagles aren't playing nearly as well as the Niners 1124 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: were playing early this year. But yet this line is 1125 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: the same as what it was when Dallas was at 1126 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Like I said, usually I would say three 1127 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: quarters of the time when they make a line move 1128 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: prediction like this, I'll be correct. And if you do 1129 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: want to bet Dallas, I would grab the plus three 1130 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: right now. 1131 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: Okay, he is Steve Fezick. Steve, you handout picks or 1132 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 3: people can pay for him. Where can they find your 1133 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 3: your site? 1134 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: So I only sell picks at one place. I don't 1135 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: have my own site. I'm too busy pregame dot com. 1136 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: If anyone's asking for your money and it's not associated 1137 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: with pregame dot com, that's not me. That's someone pretending 1138 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 1: to be me and Twitter at phasick sports. 1139 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Steve, and keep up the good work. Tied 1140 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 3: for fifth, I am not tied for fifth. I had 1141 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 3: a five and oh a couple of weeks ago, but 1142 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 3: it's been a rough go. Good luck the rest of 1143 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 3: the way, buddy. 1144 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 1: If I could add one more thing, anyone who thinks 1145 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: about like a sports betting people are skeptical and they like, oh, 1146 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: people can't win gambling. Anyone who adamantly feels that way, 1147 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,800 Speaker 1: I have a dinner bet with you. Come to Vegas, 1148 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: and I will get you backed off from a sports 1149 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: book of my choice within thirty minutes, where they'll tell you, 1150 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we can't accept these wagers anymore.