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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: It's apparently a business whistleblowers are coming forward. And if

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Speaker 2: they are real, Mike, and if what they're saying can

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Speaker 2: be documented, and what they're saying is they told Tim Walls,

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Speaker 2: they told Keith Ellison about the fraud when it was happening,

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Speaker 2: and they not only didn't do anything, they retaliated against them, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If that's true, if that can be documented, these guys

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Speaker 2: need to be prosecuted, held accountable, and prosecuted to the

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Speaker 3: What needs to stop is a demonization of one community

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Speaker 3: involved in this. What needs to stop is an absolutely

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Speaker 3: unproven storyline that continues your resurface on the House floor

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Speaker 3: that this money went to terrorists and it's targeted at

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Speaker 3: one group of our citizens here of Minnesotan's. We'll own

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Speaker 3: that this thing needs to be fixed. We'll own that

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Speaker 3: there were problems in this. We will own that there

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Speaker 3: are fixes, and we think we propose the right amount,

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Speaker 3: but we're open to that to try and close this.

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Speaker 3: But again, I am not going to allow folks to

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Speaker 4: So this is quality leering.

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Speaker 1: Center.

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Speaker 5: I meant to say quality Learning center. Don't open They

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Speaker 5: said they spelled learning wrong.

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Speaker 1: Don't open up.

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Speaker 5: We've arrived to ABC Learning Center. All the windows are

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Speaker 5: blocked out. I would like to check a child in

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Speaker 6: I would like to see if I can bring a

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Speaker 6: little Joey hit my son, little Joey here?

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Speaker 1: Is there a paperworker? Kind of check out the daycare.

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Speaker 7: No Somali community here in Minneapolis has been welcoming and

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Speaker 7: has shown love towards me, and I appreciate it. We

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Speaker 7: have to be honest at times with the problems that

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Speaker 7: we're having in our community, and we need our community

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Speaker 7: to help us fix those problems together because it's real

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Speaker 7: and it's serious. At the same time, if people have

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Speaker 7: taken anything that I have said out of context in

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Speaker 7: a way that's closed harm, I apologize and I'm sorry

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Speaker 7: for that because that's not my intention at all.

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Speaker 3: I want to be clear that the Legislative's audit report

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Speaker 3: gave us a clear path. It told us that we

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Speaker 3: could do better, and just like Minlaars, I now own

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Speaker 3: that and I own the fix for that.

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Speaker 8: This is what happens when your own federal government wages

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Speaker 8: war against you. This is what happens when they target

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Speaker 8: communities for their own benefit. This is what happens when

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Speaker 8: they scapegoat, And this is what say happens when they

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Speaker 8: no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When you

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Speaker 8: hear the Vice President of the United States talk about

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Speaker 8: now white people won't have to apologize for being white.

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Speaker 8: That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And

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Speaker 8: I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 8: So we're here today to say enough of this. We're

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Speaker 8: here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Walls is saying that you and others that are out

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Speaker 1: there trying to.

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Speaker 9: Expose this, you know you're doing it because you're white supremacist.

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Speaker 1: What is your response to him? Yeah, Tim wants votes.

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Speaker 6: There are an entire apartment complex that where white people

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Speaker 1: And if you have one hundred.

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Speaker 6: Thousand people that will vote for you, because you're going

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Speaker 6: to enable and let this stuff happen, and because you're

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Speaker 6: going to call white person races for calling out facts.

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Speaker 1: This is what's going to happen to a state like Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: Minnesota's they say in Minnesota nice, but they are very upset.

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Speaker 6: And I fully understand why they're upset because they don't

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Speaker 1: He's actually working against them.

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Speaker 10: In twenty twenty one of them received one point three million,

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Speaker 10: And then the other one one point six zero four million.

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Speaker 10: right here, what is It's from the State of Minnesota website.

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Speaker 10: It says you have one hundred and two children here

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Speaker 10: in your childcare. What's that job at ninety Minnesota Childcare?

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Speaker 6: And we'd like to ask, where's the money's going.

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Speaker 1: Look at that shut us down? Where are the children at?

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Speaker 6: No children inside of this staycare center. And look at

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Speaker 6: this daycare center right here. No children inside of this

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Speaker 1: Every day is a battle for your mind.

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Speaker 11: Raging information coming from every angle, but the will to

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Speaker 11: deceive fear not. He found the place for truth, the

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Speaker 11: voice of a generation that still has the will to

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Speaker 11: believe in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 11: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. We are

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Speaker 4: back in studio. I hope you had a great Christmas time. RESTful.

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Speaker 4: We're looking forward to the new year. Blake is still

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Speaker 4: not here because he is in a very cold place,

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Speaker 4: undisclosed gold place. Blake, Merry Christmas happens.

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Speaker 12: I'll disclose it.

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Speaker 13: I'm in the I'm in the vast frozen waist of

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Speaker 13: South Dakota. It's vast and it is frozen.

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Speaker 4: My first question to Blake was how cold is it?

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Speaker 4: And Blake was like, it's frigid, it's freezing.

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Speaker 12: It was so true story.

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Speaker 13: We were driving back from North Dakota yesterday and my

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Speaker 13: family members, we had three different cars. There was a

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Speaker 13: like the like the wise men, we returned home by

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Speaker 13: another way. Yes, and so we got home. But I

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Speaker 12: Which, Oh, it has a nice pizza place.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to shout out the pizza corner of Valley City,

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Speaker 13: North Dakota, which we frequently stop at, but otherwise it

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're with family, that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 4: My mother kept telling me I looked tired again. So

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Speaker 4: a maxed out show today, and Blake, I mean, really,

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Speaker 4: the big story is the Somali fraud, but it's bigger

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Speaker 13: Actually, it's crazy how this has really eaten about I

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Speaker 12: This is eaten about a month of.

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Speaker 13: News, just this steadily exploding bomb of Somali related frauds

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Speaker 12: It has been around for a while.

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Speaker 12: But it blew up again in public consciousness.

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Speaker 13: When Chris Rufo and Ryan Thorpe had their article for

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Speaker 13: the Manhattan Institute, they talked about different programs, COVID related stuff,

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Speaker 13: Lot of different programs going into it, and then that

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Speaker 13: guess you know, I guess you call it a citizen journalist.

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Speaker 4: Then Blake can I see one video. Yeah, what can

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Speaker 4: I say one quick thing about Nick Shirley. I don't

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Speaker 4: mean to get in your vibe here. Nick is doing

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Speaker 4: great work, massive top ten all time engaged tweets if

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Speaker 4: you will. But what's crazy is I reached out to

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Speaker 4: Nick so he's planning on coming on the show in

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Speaker 4: on nine ten. Oh my gosh, Yeah, that's crazy. So

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Speaker 4: I text I texted him about it, and he came

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely so, well, if he's been inspired he was.

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Speaker 13: These stories often do not I think people you don't

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Speaker 12: And what he did is he just went into the.

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Speaker 13: Public records of who is getting taxpayer subsidies for running

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Speaker 12: It's a forty two minutes.

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Speaker 13: It's worth going to watch the whole thing, but we

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Speaker 12: Let's play clip one twenty four.

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Speaker 5: So this is Quality Leering Center. I meant to say

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Speaker 5: quality learning center. We've arrived to ABC Learning Center. All

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Speaker 5: the windows are blocked out. I would like to check

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Speaker 10: From the State of Minnesota website. It says you have

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Speaker 10: Jack marys Ella Minnesota Childcare right here. It's from the

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Speaker 10: State of Minnesota's website. We're just wondering where the children are?

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Speaker 15: Now?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, where are the children? It says you have one

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when we went back to it, he was sending

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Speaker 4: Right, correct? Okay, well that was an interesting little curveball.

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Speaker 4: No exactly, I mean, we're not even talking about a

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Speaker 17: Twenty two year old Tyler Robinson, the suspect accused of

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Speaker 17: Judge Graff has permitted release of the closed hearing in

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Speaker 17: October transcript with some redactions to protect safety and privacy interests.

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Speaker 17: Robinson is charged with seven felonies and Utah County Attorney

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Speaker 17: General Jeff Gray is seeking the death penalty. Meanwhile, President

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Speaker 17: To a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine following that meeting,

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Speaker 4: know you're traveling, Jonathan, but Blake and I were very

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Speaker 4: honest that you made some time during your holiday travels

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Speaker 4: just because we have a lot of really important things

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Speaker 4: to talk about. And I have texted you and I said, listen,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot going on, a lot swearthing swirling. I

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Speaker 4: think when people log on to X or whatever platforms,

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Speaker 4: it's hard to understand the movements at where we need

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Speaker 4: to go, what we need to do. It's a frat

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Speaker 4: time and it means we need I think sage voices

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Speaker 4: of wisdom, the honest brokers, the good faith brokers, to

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Speaker 4: I consider you one of those voices. So thirty thousand

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Speaker 4: foot views we like to start off here sometimes help

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Speaker 4: make sense of the swirld that's going on, the tension

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Speaker 4: that's going on in the movement in the conservative coalition.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the right frame. And frankly,

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Speaker 15: I also you know, I'm online all the time, I'm

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Speaker 15: on Twitter, I have a podcast, and you can't help

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Speaker 15: but sort of get embroiled in the sort of soap

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Speaker 15: opera what's going on online and the speed at which

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Speaker 15: the news comes out online and new things come into

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Speaker 15: the discourse, and things that were relevant yesterday seem to

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Speaker 15: of Gulfish brain where they can't remember what happened and

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Speaker 15: a sort of bipolar energy. Almost you're up one day,

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Speaker 15: it's very exciting. There's a lot of enthusiasm. Maybe the

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Speaker 15: administration is making a lot of moves on immigration, or

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Speaker 1: Let's say I remember a week ago, Harmie.

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Speaker 19: Dillon at the Office of Civil Rights in the Department

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Speaker 19: of Justice was making these orders around disparate impact, and

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Speaker 15: Prevent white men from getting jobs or white men who

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Speaker 15: had faced discrimination in the workplace. We're given this avenue

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Speaker 15: to pursue those claims with the Department of Justice. This

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Speaker 15: something gets left behind and suddenly we're, you know, now

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Speaker 15: in Minnesota with the fraud scandal, and then next week

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Speaker 15: And so what I want to say, taking that thirty

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Speaker 15: And we are in a shipwreck, and you know, we

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Speaker 15: out in the middle of the ocean. And it can

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Speaker 15: Desperation can start to set in and people start with

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Speaker 15: and you know, stab the life raft and hope somehow

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Speaker 15: some miraculous new thing will happen to come save them.

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Speaker 15: And so my advice to everybody, my suggestion, or at

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Speaker 15: least my disposition attitude towards everything that's happening, is, look,

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Speaker 15: we are facing the right direction. There's no question that

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Speaker 15: the administration has its focus on the things that matters

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Speaker 15: to this coalition and to the American people at large.

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Speaker 1: Immigration, rooting out the.

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Speaker 15: Liberal rot out of our institutions, affordability, reframing foreign policy

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Speaker 15: on putting America in America's interests first. And it's going

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Speaker 15: to take a long time, we have to realize to

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Speaker 15: get to the destinations we're trying to get to. But

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Speaker 15: we are headed in the right direction. And while everybody

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Speaker 15: wants it to be faster, everybody wants more aggressive action,

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Speaker 15: it just is the case that we live in a

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Speaker 15: and bureaucratic impediments that ensure things happen at a less

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's well said. And Blake, I want

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Speaker 4: say and I'll throw it to you, Blake is I.

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Speaker 4: You know I had a call with Mike Davis this morning,

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Speaker 4: you know, because you log onto X Now. Everybody wants

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Speaker 4: Tim Waltz thrown in prison, right, you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: arresting a sitting governor, even if even if he deserves it,

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Speaker 4: unders need to understand that legally. And we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: har Meetdylan on in the second hour of today's show

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Speaker 4: expect coming down the pike with the Minnesota fraud situation.

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Speaker 4: By the way, there's fraud that's going to be exposed,

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Speaker 4: I think as a result of some of this reporting

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Speaker 4: in Ohio. There's going to be more in New York

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Speaker 4: with this home healthcare Medicaid scandal, and you know, you're

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Speaker 4: going to have other things happening probably in California as well.

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Speaker 4: All but everybody wants accountability there. I just want to

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Speaker 4: been told this by multiple sources. There is a lot

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Speaker 4: that have not even been made public yet. There is

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Speaker 4: accountability coming. But to your point, Jonathan, I think everybody

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Speaker 4: has this feeling that we are losing Western civilization. You

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Speaker 4: could like feel it slipping through your hands. And you

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Speaker 4: want the immigration thing fixed right away. You want the

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Speaker 4: fertility thing fixed right away, you want the affordability issues

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Speaker 4: fixed right away, and it just takes time. Blake, I

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Speaker 4: want to throw it to you to respond to Jonathan's

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Speaker 4: take there.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's it truthfully is it's something where

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Speaker 13: you need to cultivate. We need to cultivate good character

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Speaker 13: on the part of our movement actually, because it is

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Speaker 13: a real weakness unfortunately that there is this there's an

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Speaker 13: This is happening, and Republicans do nothing, and it'll be

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Speaker 13: in all caps like that. And the truth is is

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Speaker 13: is in fact happening. We have lawyers in the DOJ,

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Speaker 12: We should make sure they have the right priorities.

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Speaker 13: But you do have to have some willingness to let

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Speaker 13: a process play out. And if you want to get involved,

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Speaker 13: you can get involved at the local.

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Speaker 12: And state level.

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Speaker 13: We were saying, look at what Nick Shirley was able

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Speaker 13: to do for that issue by just going and knocking

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Speaker 13: this in they're already observing this in Columbus, there's I

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Speaker 13: guarantee if you live in a medium to large city

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Speaker 13: in the Midwest, this sort of fraud stuff is happening already.

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Speaker 13: And if you want to get involved, get your if

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Speaker 13: I would just say I would encourage people to not

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Speaker 13: lot of politics. Let's be frank, as entertainment, people get

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Speaker 13: mad when their TV show doesn't give them, you know,

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Speaker 13: the new developments, the new twists as quickly as they

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Speaker 13: And I would note the left is pretty good at this.

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Speaker 13: The left is pretty good at the grinding process of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so Jonathan, you know, I want to head yeah, time.

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Speaker 15: Into well, I just want to add, you know, I

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Speaker 15: think Blake and I are on the same page here,

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Speaker 15: and it requires a certain amount of forbearance and sort

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Speaker 15: of prudence with how we approach these issues. At the

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Speaker 15: same time, I understand I'm very sympathetic to the sense

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Speaker 15: of urgency that people are bringing to these issues because

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Speaker 15: the truth is, it's not just that Republicans have been

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Speaker 15: in and there's this brief window. It's a particular kind

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Speaker 15: position and.

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Speaker 1: Is in charge of what's going on in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 15: And there is this sense and I feel myself victim

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Speaker 15: now is the window, and you have like a year

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Speaker 15: left to do something, and if you don't do it now,

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Speaker 15: it's never going to happen. And you want to imagine

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Speaker 15: that there's some big red button somewhere in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: And if Steven Miller.

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Speaker 15: he can press, and that will just fix everything. And

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Speaker 15: I'm sensitive to the idea of it, you know, I

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Speaker 15: wish that were all so true. I wish for that

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Speaker 15: fantasy to be the case.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 15: This is going to be a long process. This is

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Speaker 15: going to be a multi term and perhaps even multi

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Speaker 15: decade process to undo the years, the decades, the half

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Speaker 15: century if not more, of row that sort of seeped

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Speaker 15: into the federal government and the kind of takeover of

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Speaker 15: the bureaucracies that's happens by liberal establishment. This slow, long

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Speaker 15: march to the institutions will basically completed. Now we are

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Speaker 15: at the very beginning stages a year if not less

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Speaker 15: into unwinding that entire process. And so again, as hard

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Speaker 15: as it is, it is going to require long term thinking.

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Speaker 15: And that also means getting our personnel in place who

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Speaker 15: can do this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well said Jonathan, And we're going to keep going

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Speaker 4: through the break here, So if you're watching us on streaming,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna keep going with Jonathan Keeperman talking about this.

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Speaker 4: You know, one of the things that Charlie and I

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Speaker 4: used to talk about a lot was that the Constitution

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Speaker 4: spread out power both geographically and over time. It basically

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Speaker 4: takes six years to completely redo the foreman the personnel

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Speaker 4: within the government because senators elected every six years. So

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Speaker 4: it's intentional, it's intentionally slow and frustrating. We'll be right back,

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Speaker 4: all right, Welcome back for the stream and podcast So Jonathan,

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Speaker 4: this this idea that our constitutional republic is the power

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Speaker 4: is spread out geographically. Both we have a federal system, right,

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Speaker 4: so states have power, they have certain jurisdictions, certain authority,

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Speaker 4: and then we also have time. So right now we

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Speaker 4: talk about should we nuke the filibuster to get immigration done.

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Speaker 4: I'm nobody could convince me that Susan Collins and Lisa

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Speaker 4: Murkowski and Mitch McConnell are going to go along with that,

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Speaker 4: let alone ran Paul Right, who's libertarian leaning. He probably

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Speaker 4: likes immigration as a matter of fact, I know that.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's like what you got to keep continue.

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Speaker 4: You got to get like a guy like Nate Morrison

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Speaker 4: who wants an immigration moratorium in Kentucky. You got to

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Speaker 4: make him your next senator. We got to convince the

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Speaker 4: people to vote him in. But you need more reinforcements

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Speaker 4: or it's not going to happen even if you pull

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Speaker 4: pushed all the buttons. This idea of time and geography.

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Speaker 4: I feel like at some level, you know, I get

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Speaker 4: everybody's urgency, but we need to also understand the way

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Speaker 4: the system works, because that system protects us. When you

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Speaker 4: know you have like a Joe Biden in office as well.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, it's ostensibly supposed to protect us.

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Speaker 15: The problem is that liberals have figured out creative ways

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Speaker 15: to what might be called manipulate procedural outcome.

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Speaker 1: So even though.

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Speaker 15: They are faced with these same sort of structural impediments,

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Speaker 15: they aren't much better at sort of cutting corners and

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Speaker 15: more efficiently getting done what they want to get done.

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Speaker 15: And a good example of this is what Alejandro Mayorcis

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Speaker 15: did with immigration over Biden's term, and so sort of

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Speaker 15: very selectively deciding which laws to adhere to and which

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Speaker 15: laws to ignore, if not outright break. And what you

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Speaker 15: see is it's much easier for liberals to flaunt these

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Speaker 15: kinds of detections and just ignore border enforcement, abuse our

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Speaker 15: parole and refugee system, to bring in masses of immigrants.

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Speaker 15: And by the way, like the Biden administration accounted for

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Speaker 15: something like a twelve years of immigration in that four

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Speaker 15: year term, and it's much easier to bring them in

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Speaker 15: and cause the problem than undo it. Okay, Entropy is

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Speaker 15: much easier to create than order, and so conservatives find

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Speaker 15: themselves in the unenviable position of having to reconstruct order

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Speaker 15: out of this kind of liberal entropy. It's always going

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Speaker 15: to be structurally more difficult.

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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean we give up.

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Speaker 15: It doesn't mean we only use those methods available to

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Speaker 15: us through the slow processes embedded in the constitution.

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Speaker 1: We also have to get creative, and I think we are.

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Speaker 15: I think, for example, remigration and the kinds of carrots

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Speaker 15: and sticks and incentives you can use, if not to

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Speaker 15: deport by compulsory action, these masses of illegal immigrants, you

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Speaker 15: can get them to voluntarily to port, And in fact,

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Speaker 15: two million or so people have self deported since Trump

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Speaker 15: took over. And I think we need to accelerate some

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Speaker 15: of those more sort of off the books or coercive

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Speaker 15: incentive structures in order to push people out and get

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Speaker 15: done the things we need to get done.

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Speaker 13: When you look at the number of people who are

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Speaker 13: making their living off of basically just scamming taxpayers, whether

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Speaker 13: it's a fake daycare or fake meals for children or

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Speaker 13: fake home healthcare, there's so many people just living off

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Speaker 13: the taxpayer. You have to imagine if you cut that off,

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Speaker 13: the push to just go back to your homeland will

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Speaker 13: be pretty significant, especially if you could be charged with

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Speaker 13: a crime for the things that you did and I

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Speaker 13: agree Sharper methods should be on.

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Speaker 12: The table, and I think things are out there.

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Speaker 13: I think if the Minnesota situation is out of control enough,

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Speaker 13: I think it'd be amazing if the federal government said

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Speaker 13: we're freezing all grants to Minnesota because this.

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Speaker 12: Is situation is out of control.

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Speaker 13: That would be quite the flex and it would be

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Speaker 13: getting forced people to talk about issues in a framing

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Speaker 13: that is favorable to us, which is always a good

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Speaker 13: part of political strategy.

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Speaker 4: We are going to welcome back radio in about ten

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Speaker 4: seconds more with Jonathan keeperman aka lo Mez. When we

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Speaker 4: get back. All right, welcome back to the Charlie kirkshow.

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Speaker 4: We are joined by Jonathan keeperman aka lo Mez. So

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Speaker 4: there is, by the way, the SBA is freezing federal

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Speaker 4: funding to Minnesota. That has been announced. Loeffler has confirmed that.

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Speaker 4: So that's one one, you know method that's being employed.

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Speaker 4: But I agree, you know, Jonathan, we're talking about you

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Speaker 4: made the point in the break here that we need

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Speaker 4: to get more creative with how we the carrot and

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Speaker 4: stick approach. I totally agree. But by the way, just

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Speaker 4: a few updates the you know, we got to think

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Speaker 4: about ice what's happening there. And Steven Miller has been

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes working a lot of these angles. They're

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Speaker 4: going to be on pace to deport one million individuals

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Speaker 4: next year. One million that I've heard that from him directly.

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Speaker 4: That's the goal. So you think about that plus self deportations.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. They they actually just upped the

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Speaker 4: stipend that they're willing to pay for a self deportation,

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Speaker 4: so that's already been increased. We need more and more

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Speaker 4: and more. I mean, I people, I'm with everybody. I

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Speaker 4: want all these somalis out. I mean, it seems like

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Speaker 4: the whole community has just been organized to defraud the

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Speaker 4: federal government and live off the dole. And you know,

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Speaker 4: we pay way too much in taxes. But here's here's

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Speaker 4: something occurred to me as you were talking Jonathan. Right now,

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Speaker 4: there's a debate in California going on. Rocanna's all over

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Speaker 4: x talking about how we need to seize the wa

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Speaker 4: health of billionaires, and you've got Palmer, Lucky and Timoth

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Speaker 4: basically arguing with them. You've got you know, it's so

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Speaker 4: it's it's but this is the alternative. So when we

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Speaker 4: get frustrated with our own coalition. Look at the alternative.

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Speaker 4: They're literally going to seize unrealized gains in California five

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Speaker 4: percent of wealth. They're just gonna seize it, which is

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Speaker 4: theft from from bill billionaires. Yeah, go ahead, that's the alternative, though, to.

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Speaker 15: These billionaires who are listening, actually that's the moderate alternative.

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Speaker 15: The actual alternative for them is Luigi Mangioni. Okay, And

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Speaker 15: I don't say that in jest. I think that is

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Speaker 15: ultimately where this is headed. And and this is something

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Speaker 15: that at the beginning of the Trump term, and as

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Speaker 15: this coalition was forming early on, there was a kind

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Speaker 15: of tacit agreement that the tech right, so to speak,

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Speaker 15: who had become sort of disillusioned with the left and

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Speaker 15: the liberals who they had long support, and saw that

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Speaker 15: that arrangement was no longer working for them, and the

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Speaker 15: left was going down a road that wouldn't allow these

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Speaker 15: billionaires to even exist, let alone flourish. The agreement was

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Speaker 15: that the tech right would come in and we would

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Speaker 15: have a kind of handshake deal where we would leave

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Speaker 15: them alone, we would support their interests in building out

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Speaker 15: to infrastructure and building their businesses and pursuing the limits.

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Speaker 1: Of AI research.

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Speaker 15: Which by the way, I think is all great and

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Speaker 15: I'm for but in return, we need something out of

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Speaker 15: this deal, and the deal was we get immigration. They're

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Speaker 15: going to help us with the core issues that have

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Speaker 15: been animating this Trump movement from the start. They're also

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Speaker 15: going to help us get rid of some of these

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Speaker 15: very insidious cultural policies that had infected their industries for

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Speaker 15: so long, things like DEI, anti white racism, etc. They've

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Speaker 15: come about a quarter of the way and now they're

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Speaker 15: in need of some kind of help. They want this

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Speaker 15: broad coalition to come to their aid and push back

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Speaker 15: against some of these odious economic policies that are being

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Speaker 15: put forward by people like Rokana. And my pitch to

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Speaker 15: them is, okay, great, you guys have a lot of resources,

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Speaker 15: a lot of know how, you have a lot of competent,

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Speaker 15: serious people. Help us do the things that we want

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Speaker 15: to do. Help us build a permanent wall that can

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Speaker 15: keep out bad actors and people who don't belong in

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Speaker 15: this country. Help us effectively and systematically deport the fifty

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Speaker 15: million illegal immigrants in this country. And where we start

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Speaker 15: and how that gets rolled out is something we can

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Speaker 15: negotiate along the way. But we want to see active

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Speaker 15: participation by this coalition to help us pursue the agenda

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Speaker 15: that is, at bottom, what is animating the Trump base.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's well said. I sorry, go ahead, Blake, if

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Speaker 4: you got a point.

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Speaker 13: Well, I was just thinking, I think we're getting a

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Speaker 13: big face were done to us by the left itself,

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Speaker 13: which is, let's be real, a lot of the tech

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Speaker 13: right they're not organically always culturally conservative. They don't necessarily

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Speaker 13: agree with us on a lot of issues. But the

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Speaker 13: push factor from the left is they aren't chilling out

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Speaker 13: from the twenty twenty four election. In most cases, they're

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Speaker 13: getting more extreme. They've got the mangionism, they have this

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Speaker 13: Liz Warren confiscatory tech stuff. They're getting more and more hostile,

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Speaker 13: more and more radical, and they still have all of

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Speaker 13: the insane race stuff. And I have to hope that,

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Speaker 13: as terrifying as that is, this does force our coalition

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Speaker 13: to cohere together. And if you want some optimism, look

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Speaker 13: up what Representative Tom Emmer was saying in twenty fifteen

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Speaker 13: about Somalis and what he was saying on Fox just

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Speaker 13: yesterday about it. It's a big shift. We've made a

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Speaker 13: lot of strides in the past decade.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan, can I keep you for a couple more minutes?

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Speaker 4: I know you got an out at the top of

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Speaker 4: the hour, so I want to keep going because this

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Speaker 4: is too important. We got to keep the coalition together

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Speaker 4: and there's a lot of forces that are trying to

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Speaker 4: pull it apart. More with Jonathan Kieperman will be back

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Speaker 4: an our two for radio. Stay right there.

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Speaker 17: I'm about Davidson from the Real America's Voice newsroom. We

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Speaker 17: are currently awaiting a meeting at mar A Lago with

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Speaker 17: President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin nettan Yahoo. This

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Speaker 17: is the second big meeting within two days, as he

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Speaker 17: spoke with Zelensky yesterday, and I want to bring in

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Speaker 17: our chief White House correspondent Brian Glenn to discuss this,

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Speaker 17: because this meeting could happen anytime, and we'll take you

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Speaker 17: live too there as soon as it happens. But Brian,

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Speaker 17: you know, we call what is it called mar A Lago?

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Speaker 17: Is called White House South maybe or something of that sort.

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Speaker 17: He's wheeling and dealing from mar A Lago. Of course

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Speaker 17: that's his home. But we were seeing two very key

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Speaker 17: foreign policy leaders and issues being playing out on the

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Speaker 17: scene right now one with Zelensky yesterday, one with Net

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Speaker 17: and Yahoo today. Before we get to Zelensky, let's just

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Speaker 17: focus on Net and Yahoo for a moment. What are

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Speaker 17: the stakes here in terms of I'd like for you

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Speaker 17: to kind of lay out for our audience, what does

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Speaker 17: President Trump want from this meeting? And what does Benjamin

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Speaker 17: Net and Yaho want from this meeting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 20: Bo, From what I understand, there's two key components here.

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Speaker 20: One of them is what does this fight, this war,

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Speaker 20: this pushback on Iran look like and what involvement does that,

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Speaker 20: you know, include with the US? How do we support

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Speaker 20: that with Israel? And I think most people can agree

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Speaker 20: that Iran having a nuclear weapon is absolutely the wrong idea,

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Speaker 20: and so I think we can all agree with that,

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Speaker 20: but what does that look like in terms of US involvement?

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Speaker 20: Then the other would be the development of Gaza or

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Speaker 20: what do we do in terms of Goza, And I

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Speaker 20: know there have been lots of conversations about cleaning that

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Speaker 20: area up and getting the literally miles of a pile

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Speaker 20: of rubbish and human remains out of that area in

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Speaker 20: order for this economic development to occur. And what does

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Speaker 20: that look like and who's involved with that as well.

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Speaker 21: So you've got those are the I think, from what

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Speaker 21: I understand, both the two biggest talking points in this

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Speaker 21: meeting that should happen, Like you said here momentarily, well.

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Speaker 17: You know with Benjamin Netanyah, who a lot of people

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Speaker 17: have lambasted him. Of course, we've seen this kind of

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Speaker 17: fissure within the conservative movement, the Republican Party. You and

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Speaker 17: I saw it firsthand actually in terms of SEAPAC and

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Speaker 17: this jocking for positioning with Ben Shapiro, Steve benn and

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Speaker 17: Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly and whether like it's almost like

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Speaker 17: how pro Israel can you be? And I think there's

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Speaker 17: maybe a difference between supporting the nation of Israel and

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Speaker 17: its right to exist versus supporting the government, which is

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Speaker 17: BB Netyaghuo's government and their actions. Do you think I've

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Speaker 17: read some stuff online that's showing that President Trump may

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Speaker 17: be getting a bit weary of BB's actions. What are

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Speaker 17: you hearing in terms of how President Trump?

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Speaker 20: That is a great point. By the way, I think

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Speaker 20: the program cut off in my ear, but I think

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Speaker 20: I know what you're asking right now. There are two

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Speaker 20: distinctions here. There's the Jewish people of Israel, the faith

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Speaker 20: aspect of it. And then there's the government of Israel,

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Speaker 20: which many would consider them a corrupt government. So where

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Speaker 20: is the line there that people are willing to say, Look,

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Speaker 20: we want to support the people of Israel and their

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Speaker 20: right obviously to exist, but at the same time, how

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Speaker 20: close should we get to the government of Israel. So

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Speaker 20: and am fest did day one? We saw it, You

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Speaker 20: and I saw the fireworks that took place on the stage,

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Speaker 20: and very two different distinctive agreements. You know, it's either

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Speaker 20: you're all in on Israel or you're like, I'm in

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Speaker 20: on Israel. But I don't want them necessarily telling our

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Speaker 20: government what to do. We certainly don't want to get

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Speaker 20: drawn into their conflict as well. So there is a

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Speaker 20: very interesting dialogue. But I wonder if you was to

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Speaker 20: understand that if anyone is critical of Israel, they're criticizing

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Speaker 20: the government of Israel, not necessarily on the people of Israel.

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Speaker 20: Just like you can we can criticize our US government.

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Speaker 20: We're not necessarily criticizing Americans. We're criticizing our government. So

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Speaker 20: I think the distinction has to be made. But you know,

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Speaker 20: whether or not in this conversation, and you and I

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Speaker 20: saw it bo who gets to define what make America

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Speaker 20: great again looks like? And it's not make Israel great again.

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Speaker 20: That movement which there's some that want to put Israel first,

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Speaker 20: and just like if you're in any country, you want

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Speaker 20: to put your country first. I think there is a

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Speaker 20: fine line between what we allow to our country to dictate.

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Speaker 20: We don't want any country dictating what our government does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 17: I think there's that distinction has to be made. And

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Speaker 17: a lot of people are wanting to throw the baby

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Speaker 17: out with the bathwater, which I think that we can't do.

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Speaker 12: And I think that somebody laid that distinction.

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Speaker 4: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Our

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Speaker 4: two is underway. What a great conversation with Jonathan Keeperman.

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Speaker 4: Please check out the podcast. There was a lot of

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Speaker 4: exclusive podcast content that we covered in the breaks. We

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Speaker 4: are actually going to be joined now by Scott Johnson

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Speaker 4: from the power Line Blog, one of the groups that

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Speaker 4: has been investigating the Minnesota fraud and within the Somali

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Speaker 4: community specifically for a lot longer than the public is

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Speaker 4: now aware of, at least the vast majority of them.

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Speaker 4: So Scott, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Thanks for

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Speaker 4: making the time, Blake. Blake is the one who turned

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Speaker 4: me onto your reporting and your investigative, investigative work. So

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let him take the lead here because what

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Speaker 4: you've been doing needs to more people need to know

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 12: Scott, Hey, Scott, Yeah, welcome to the show. I'm a

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Speaker 12: big fan of power Line. You guys are.

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Speaker 13: I think you guys have literally been blogging before they

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Speaker 13: actually came up with the word blog, which is quite

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Speaker 13: I think you were in like the original Time magazine

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Speaker 13: article about it and all that.

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Speaker 12: Big fan of you.

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Speaker 13: Guys, and what I like about what you guys have

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Speaker 13: really pointed out. You've had a lot of posts on

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Speaker 13: this explosion of interest in the Somali's story, and what

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Speaker 13: you've pointed out is this is not it's not truly

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Speaker 13: a new story.

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Speaker 12: Even Nick Shirley, he's not.

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Speaker 13: He's not even the first person to go around knocking

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Speaker 13: on the doors of daycares.

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Speaker 12: And so I.

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Speaker 13: Thought we could set this up by you could just

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Speaker 13: explain a little bit about what you know as a

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Speaker 13: conservative on the ground in Minnesota, what the real state

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Speaker 13: of affairs is, and what is the best thing that

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Speaker 13: could happen if we want to see accountability for this,

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Speaker 13: and I guess I supposed to be obviously useful policy

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Speaker 13: developments at the national level as a result of the scandal.

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Speaker 22: Well, that's that's a big question.

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Speaker 14: The last time you had me on like it was

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Speaker 14: to talk in the aftermath of the controversy that Chris

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Speaker 14: Ruffo had raised with a City Journal column this past November,

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Speaker 14: and it created a huge impact all around the country

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Speaker 14: because President Trump attended to that matter, and all of

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Speaker 14: a sudden there were there were calls for investigation coming

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Speaker 14: from all over the country directed at the United States

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Speaker 14: Attorney for Minnesota and the local FBI office here. But

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Speaker 14: in fact, the case that Ruffo wrote about, the fraud

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Speaker 14: cases that have you've been drawn to his attention, are

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Speaker 14: four years old. They're gonna be let's see, since twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty one, they've been under investigation by the FBI. There

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Speaker 14: have been at least fifty convictions in those cases.

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Speaker 22: They are about twenty eight more maybe to go.

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Speaker 14: And this round of controversy is created by this incredible

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Speaker 14: video that Nick Shirley created knocking on doors around the

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Speaker 14: Twin Cities to demonstrate the level of fraud in one

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Speaker 14: aspect of these cases that is also.

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Speaker 22: Under investigation and also being charged.

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Speaker 14: And that's the most the thing I would like your

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Speaker 14: audience to know more than any thing else, is that

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Speaker 14: these matters are under investigation by the FBI and they

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Speaker 14: are being prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the

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Speaker 14: District of Minnesota. And whatever credit you give to me

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Speaker 14: for covering these cases comes from the fact that I

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Speaker 14: have followed.

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Speaker 22: I have.

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Speaker 14: And did the press conferences called by the US Attorney here,

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Speaker 14: and I've attended the trials held in these cases is here.

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Speaker 14: And this is all from my perspective. Old news. Now,

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Speaker 14: what's the name of the gentleman you're going to have

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Speaker 14: on I'm surely you know I'm still I'm just inundated

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Speaker 14: with questions about this, But surely's video focuses on one

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Speaker 14: aspect of the frauds that are being investigated here, the

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Speaker 14: daycare frauds, and he highlights in the video an office

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Speaker 14: in the city of Saint Paul called the Griggs Midway

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Speaker 14: building that he had twenty two off that were devoted

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Speaker 14: to some aspect of these frauds. And the funny thing

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Speaker 14: is that office building was rated in July and at

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Speaker 14: the time I posted this one of the search warrants

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Speaker 14: that was executed in July on power Line and then

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Speaker 14: in September several of those cases out of the Griggs

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Speaker 14: Midway building were charged. Now, the first charge cases involved

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Speaker 14: another Medicaid fraud Minnesota. Medicaid has fourteen waiver programs and

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Speaker 14: daycare has been a longstanding problem. But the first charge

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Speaker 14: cases in that have come out of the Griggs Midway

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Speaker 14: Building and Saint Paul are in housing stabilization services, which

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Speaker 14: seems to be a fraud of the kind that Nick

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Speaker 14: Sureley is exposing in this video that has gone viral.

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Speaker 14: So the one thing I would like your audience to

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Speaker 14: know is that this matter, to use President Trump's term,

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Speaker 14: is being attended to. The FBI is investigating it, and

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Speaker 14: the cases are being charged.

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Speaker 22: There are more that will be charged this week.

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Speaker 14: If there's a problem, it's that the United States Attorney's

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Speaker 14: Office for Minnesota is not huge.

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Speaker 22: There might be.

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Speaker 14: Five or six prosecutors working on these cases and a

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Speaker 14: team of FBI agents. If anything, it's time to send

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Speaker 14: in reinforcements. But the matter this is not news. It

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Speaker 14: does not need to be investigated in the sense that

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Speaker 14: a case needs to be open, it is under investigation,

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Speaker 14: and the cases are being charged.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's interesting. I want to read a line from

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Speaker 13: your post this morning. It says before Nick Shirley and

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Speaker 13: after and you say, Joe Thompson, the US Attorney for Minnesota,

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Speaker 13: has all but shouted the point from the rooftop Minnesota

1052
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Speaker 13: is drowning in fraud. To put it another way, Thompson

1053
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Speaker 13: was shouting, wake up. The volume of fraud is beyond

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Speaker 13: the capacity of his office to remedy by prosecution alone.

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Speaker 13: And you asked him, Okay, are there more people you

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Speaker 13: could charge? And do they match basically the appearance of

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Speaker 13: the cases we've seen so far? In other words, are

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Speaker 13: there more Somali fraud cases that he's just been unable

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Speaker 13: to get to? And he told you yes, So we

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Speaker 13: have the evidence, we have the cases. It seems that

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Speaker 13: we literally just have a case where we need more

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Speaker 13: prosecutors and more manpower to bring the paperwork charges. Is

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Speaker 13: that the situation, as do I understand it correctly.

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Speaker 22: To go back to the beginning, which is the.

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Speaker 14: Searches and indictments that were handed up in the year

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty two out of the investigations that began in

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty one. We're in this Feeding our Future fraud

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Speaker 14: that involved three hundred million dollars. The original indictments, there

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Speaker 14: was a forty a set of forty seven indictments that

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Speaker 14: were handed up by the grand jury in September twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty two, and those have multiplied.

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Speaker 22: They're up to seventy some now.

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Speaker 23: And that's how these subsequent frauds were discovered, is that

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Speaker 23: Joe Thompson and the FBI as they followed the money

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Speaker 23: coming coming out of the Medicaid to and this Feeding

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Speaker 23: our Future, as they followed the money, they found some

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Speaker 23: of the same cast of characters.

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Speaker 14: The defendants in the Feeding Our Future case are basically

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Speaker 14: a white woman who set up this Feeding Our Future

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Speaker 14: nonprofit and recruited Somali, a Somali cast of characters to

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Speaker 14: run these fraudulent program.

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Speaker 22: Programs around the state.

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Speaker 14: So that's how it happened, is that this thing has

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Speaker 14: been under investigation for four years.

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Speaker 12: So we have about a minute till break.

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Speaker 13: But I wanted to You've watched Minnesota politics for a

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Speaker 13: long time and it's always struck me as a state,

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Speaker 13: it seems like it should be a purple or red

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Speaker 13: state by now like it should follow the arc of

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Speaker 13: wiscon Onsen, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania move a bit to the right.

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Speaker 13: Yet it's always been this white whale. It never seems

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Speaker 13: to happen, even when it seems like this, a scandal

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Speaker 13: like this should be a huge feeding frenzy for a

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Speaker 13: state Republican And you guys have good local conservative leaning

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Speaker 13: investigators Alpha News.

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Speaker 12: You guys, what's going on?

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Speaker 13: Why does Minnesota never seem to reach that turning point

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Speaker 13: that it seems like it should.

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Speaker 14: Well, I hate to point the finger at the Somali

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Speaker 14: community again, but the problem is Kennepin County, which is

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Speaker 14: the county in which minneapolisits, and the Democratic majority there

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Speaker 14: is so huge, including a large component of Somali voters,

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Speaker 14: that it makes up for the Democrats weakness in rural Minnesota,

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Speaker 14: and they do lose out state Minnesota has shifted. It

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Speaker 14: is a purple state in the sense that rural counties

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Speaker 14: are basically Republican and Saint Paul and Minneapolis are a Democrat.

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Speaker 22: So we need to do a little bit better in

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Speaker 22: the cities.

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Speaker 14: It's been a long time since the republic look and

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Speaker 14: want a state wide election here. If it doesn't happen

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Speaker 14: in twenty twenty six, we've really got.

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Speaker 4: A problem, all right, So we got to take a

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Speaker 4: quick radio break. I think we should keep going in

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Speaker 4: the stream, though, because I think this is important. So

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Speaker 4: we'll be right back.

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Speaker 22: Urban voters don't like his style or whatever.

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Speaker 14: I really haven't thought about the question that you're raising

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Speaker 14: right now, and hesitate to say more about the political

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Speaker 14: impact and so on.

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Speaker 22: But I do think that we need a serious.

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Speaker 14: Republican candidate at the top of the ticket in twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty six. We had a weak Republican gubernatorial candidate in

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty two. It brought down competitive candidates under him.

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Speaker 14: If we have several good candidates running for the Republican

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Speaker 14: gubernatorial nomination in twenty twenty six, and if one of

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Speaker 14: them gets the nomination and is endorsed, I think will win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: We can hope, man, we can hope.

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Speaker 4: Just so we're just so we're clear. The raw vote.

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Speaker 4: The raw vote difference in twenty twenty four in Minnesota

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Speaker 4: was one hundred and thirty eight thousand, one hundred votes,

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Speaker 4: so Donald Trump received one point five Essentially, Harris received

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Speaker 4: one point sixty five so it was one hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty eight thousand raw votes that Minnesota was won by.

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Speaker 4: And if you think the Somali community, which has been

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Speaker 4: largely imported since the late nineties, I mean that's let's

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Speaker 4: say it's over two hundred thousand.

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Speaker 13: I mean there's it's about eighty thousand. So it's not

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Speaker 13: I've white the difference.

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Speaker 4: I've heard larger numbers. Do we know the actual numbers

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Speaker 4: here how many Somalis are in Minnesota?

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Speaker 14: I would say no, you can get official numbers would

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Speaker 14: be something like the eighty thousand that you're using, But

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Speaker 14: I think it's well over one hundred thousand.

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Speaker 22: It is a fair number.

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Speaker 14: And and they're not entirely in Minneapolis, but they're concentrated

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Speaker 14: in it used to be called Little Mogadishue.

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Speaker 22: That's the fifth district.

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Speaker 14: Hannifin County and Minneapolis, the interring suburb. It's still had

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Speaker 14: Omar's district.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, it's not so little anymore.

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Speaker 14: When the mogad issue has gotten bigger, it's.

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Speaker 4: Not just oh, go ahead, go ahead, we've got twenty seconds.

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Speaker 4: Actually we got twenty seconds actually till we welcome back radio.

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Speaker 4: But it's not just it's not just Minnesota. By the way,

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Speaker 4: this is in Ohio. There's now reports of over five

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Speaker 4: hundred childcare facilities in the state of Washington run by

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Speaker 4: Somali's So we'll see how far the rabbit hole goes down.

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Speaker 4: We're going to welcome back radio in two seconds. All right,

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. This is a

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Speaker 4: very interesting conversation. Scott Johnson has been with his power

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Speaker 4: Line blog, has been investigating the I Guess fraud situation,

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Speaker 4: different aspects of it in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Scott, does this

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Speaker 4: go back twenty years twenty five years for you? How

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Speaker 4: long have you been doing your research and investigations.

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Speaker 14: Well, we started power Line in over a Memorial Day

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Speaker 14: weekend two thousand and two. I'm trying to thank the

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Speaker 14: first I really got seriously interested in the subjected. Minnesota

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Speaker 14: was a fount of folks supporting al Shabab, and in

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Speaker 14: twenty sixteen there was a terrorism trial here. There were

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Speaker 14: nine charged Somali Minnesotas who were seeking to join ISIS.

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Speaker 14: Six of them pleaded guilty, three of them went to trial.

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Speaker 14: In twenty sixteen. I covered that trial, and these were

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Speaker 14: young charismatic men who on the surface, were apparently assimilated.

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Speaker 14: They were well spoken, they were taking advantage of opportunities,

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Speaker 14: they were educated, they were taking advantage of every employment

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Speaker 14: and educational opportunity I could think of. So, you know,

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Speaker 14: I was exposed to some of them as they came

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Speaker 14: through the courtroom. But the three defendants, I saw one

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Speaker 14: of them testified and one of the nine turned informer

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Speaker 14: and wore a wire, So you got to hear what

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Speaker 14: these guys really thought of us, And it was really

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Speaker 14: it was shocking how much hatred they had for the

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Speaker 14: United States. And in the course of that trial, I saw,

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Speaker 14: you know, one of the programs they were taking advantage

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Speaker 14: of was student loans, and one of the defendants pulled

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Speaker 14: out five hundred dollars on a debit card from his

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Speaker 14: student loan to finance his trip to Turkey to try

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Speaker 14: to get to Isis. And these folks were apprehended before

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Speaker 14: they before they left then States.

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Speaker 22: But it was shocking to me how how.

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Speaker 14: Pact is that they were of the scenes and the

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Speaker 14: system that they could take advantage of and so on.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's really revealing.

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Speaker 13: One of the places they investigated the way it had

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Speaker 13: all three it was like it had a transportation company

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Speaker 13: and it had like a home, a medicaid company, and

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Speaker 13: a daycare. They're aware of where you can go to

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Speaker 13: get the money. And as you said, it's nice that

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Speaker 13: you brought up the terrorism nexus of this. In twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 13: I've got it right in front of me. Fox nine

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Speaker 13: out of Minneapolis, Saint Paul, they investigated this story and

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Speaker 13: there was literally reports this was noted that millions of

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Speaker 13: dollars was being flown out of the Minneapolis airport in

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Speaker 13: suitcases in cash. They just had cash stuff in suitcases

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Speaker 13: and they're flying it to Somalia. It's beyond a doubt

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Speaker 13: a lot of that probably ended up with extremists, al Shabab, terrorists,

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Speaker 13: and it it says in that article that it's well

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Speaker 13: known that starting the daycare is a way to print

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Speaker 13: money in this community.

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Speaker 12: Twenty nineteen, it's just.

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Speaker 14: Well the reading from me, Yeah, I think the cash

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Speaker 14: being flown out I has never been substantiated. But that's

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Speaker 14: where we came in was with daycare fraud. I wrote

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Speaker 14: a column for City Journal called what Medisha Minnesota I

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Speaker 14: Think in twenty eighteen that referred to the issue of

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Speaker 14: daycare fraud and the story about cash being flown to Somalia.

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Speaker 14: I'm not so sure that that part of it is true,

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Speaker 14: but it certainly has been a concern for a substantial

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Speaker 14: period at time.

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Speaker 4: Well, so my question, then, Scott goes to the politicians

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Speaker 4: that have been complicit in this. Right in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: Governor walt said that, you know, childcare providers need a raise,

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Speaker 4: which basically, you know, was you know, a tip of

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Speaker 4: the cap to his constituents in the Somali community. I

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Speaker 4: gotta believe, what are are we looking at complicity within

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Speaker 4: the elected class in Minnesota? Can we are you going

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Speaker 4: to be pursuing that investigation? What can we expect in

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Speaker 4: terms of Tim Waltz and other officials in the state.

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Speaker 14: I don't think Tim Walls and I don't think Attorney

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Speaker 14: General Keith Ellison. I don't think either one of them

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Speaker 14: has either said for an interview regarding what they knew

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Speaker 14: when when on this massive public programs fraud. And it

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Speaker 14: would be nice if, you know, the big media outlets

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Speaker 14: here like the Minneapolis STARTERBEWE now known as the Minnesota

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Speaker 14: Star Tribune would ask for interviews and tell us what

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Speaker 14: the response is that they get. Will either of these

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Speaker 14: guys sit for an interview during the second of these

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Speaker 14: Feeding our Future trials. Earlier this year, I sent sets

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Speaker 14: of questions. I asked for interviews of both Walls and

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Speaker 14: Ellison to ask those questions, and I sent them written

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Speaker 14: questions on the subject of what they knew went when

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Speaker 14: Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of the state, is a

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Speaker 14: guy who brags about how he can spot a fraud

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Speaker 14: when he's talking about President Trump. So he's curious about

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Speaker 14: when he spotted the fraud that took place under his

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Speaker 14: auspices here over the last six years.

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Speaker 22: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 14: You know, the these guys have specialized in either looking

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Speaker 14: the other way or facilitating. Yeah, what we've seen over

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Speaker 14: the past, all these cases.

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Speaker 12: We're out of time here, Scott. But thank you so much,

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Speaker 12: Thank you so much for your work. Everyone.

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Speaker 13: you again, Scott for having you right back.

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Speaker 1: And here are today's headlines.

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Speaker 17: Twenty two year old Tyler Robinson, the suspect accused of

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Speaker 17: killing Charlie Kirk, just appeared in court today in front

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Speaker 17: of Judge Tony F.

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Speaker 4: Graff.

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Speaker 1: Junior, who issued rulings on a motion filed by.

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Speaker 17: Media organizations seeking limited party status in the case. Now,

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Speaker 17: both parties sought clarification on media presence and observation of

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Speaker 17: this case, with Robinson's attorneys requesting to prevent the chaos

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Speaker 17: that is out in the media from entering the courtroom.

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Speaker 17: Judge Graf has permitted release of the closed hearing in

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Speaker 17: October transcript with some redactions to protect safety and privacy interests.

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Speaker 17: Robinson is charged with seven felonies and Utah County Attorney

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Speaker 17: General Jeff Gray is seeking the death penalty. Meanwhile, President

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Speaker 17: Trump is set to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

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Speaker 17: Netanyahu later today in Florida. Trump and bb will be

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Speaker 17: holding key talks on Iran and furthering the deal to

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Speaker 17: end the war in Gaza. Netan Yahoo will also make

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Speaker 17: the case for further action against Iran. This also comes

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Speaker 17: after President Trump hosted Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. Trump says

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Speaker 17: they're getting closer to a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 17: Following that Meetia and one of the main sticking points

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Speaker 17: remaining is Land. Trump also talked to Russian leader Vladimir

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Speaker 17: putin ahead of the Zelenski meeting.

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Speaker 1: We'll have more for you soon. We now return to

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirkshow.

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Speaker 11: On air and on fire for the preservation of our nation,

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Speaker 11: The Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Very

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Speaker 4: excited about our next guest, that is harm Meet Dylan

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Speaker 4: the Great harm Meat Dylan, who is the Assistant Attorney

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Speaker 4: General for the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice. Harmony,

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show. I am very excited to

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Speaker 4: speak with you. You had a very lively weekend holiday break

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Speaker 4: and you're trying to explain things I found. I was

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Speaker 4: very sympathetic to where you're at because I have, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the last couple of months, received my own fair

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Speaker 4: amount of attention from conservative influencers that don't seem to

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Speaker 4: understand that we have a legal system that has rules,

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Speaker 4: it has timelines, and you are being or perhaps you

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Speaker 4: just observed some of the questions that we're circulating about

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Speaker 4: this post January sixth prosecution. People want accountability for some

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Speaker 4: of the stuff that happened. Obviously we share those desires,

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Speaker 4: and you just basically said, am I going to have

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Speaker 4: to put down my knitting and explain the statute of

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Speaker 4: limitations to you people. So the floor is yours. What

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Speaker 4: sparked this and what do you want the country the

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Speaker 4: conservative movement to know.

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Speaker 9: Well, thank you for having me, and thank you for asking.

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Speaker 9: It is certainly very frustrating to those of us that

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Speaker 9: Apartment of Justice, where we are doing so much, we

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Speaker 9: are winning so many cases, including at the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 9: We are putting wins on the board, and Attorney General

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Speaker 9: Pambondi and the rest of us keep getting criticized for

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Speaker 9: not having arrests, like arrests are entertainment or bread and circuses,

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Speaker 9: when in fact there are arrests, and there is a

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Speaker 9: very lively activity from a very committed and I think

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Speaker 9: the most conservative Department of Justice that we've ever had.

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Speaker 9: And I don't think it's just people asking questions. What

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Speaker 9: I was responding to was what looked to me like

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Speaker 9: an organized campaign of a stupid commentary that falsely claim

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Speaker 9: that because January sixth is coming up, there's a five

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Speaker 9: year statutal limitation that expires on January sixth, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 9: and if the Attorney General and the DJ hasn't indicted people.

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Speaker 9: By that time, then that Statute of Limitations has run,

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Speaker 9: and I think it is paid. I think I see

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Speaker 9: certainly those types of influencers on X who are monetized

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Speaker 9: repeating this propaganda almost word for word, and I was

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Speaker 9: frustrated by it. I saw some pushback, it wasn't enough pushback,

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Speaker 9: and so I decided to get out there and you know,

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Speaker 9: spew some facts. Namely, there is no Statute Limitations that

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Speaker 9: runs on that day. There are various statutes that are

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Speaker 9: going to run on a rowing basis, and some haven't

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Speaker 9: even expired because where there's there's a continuing conspiracy, which

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Speaker 9: I think you could make the case for in some circumstances,

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Speaker 9: the Statute of Limitations doesn't begin to run, i e.

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Speaker 9: Start until that conspiracy and those overacts and furtherance of

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Speaker 9: the conspiracy end. And so I put some facts out there,

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Speaker 9: and I also express my frustration that so called conservative

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Speaker 9: influencers are clearly getting paid to spread clickbait disinformation and

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Speaker 9: it's really annoying to me, and I wish people would

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Speaker 9: get a life, or at least inform themselves to try

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Speaker 9: the honest instead of just trying to make money off

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Speaker 9: of the desperation of a less informed populace.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think that's really important. We have your

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Speaker 4: tweet here. You said stuff happens January sixth. That date

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Speaker 4: is irrelevant. January sixth, Committee and Congress forms in the summer.

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Speaker 4: This is a relevant date. So statute to limitations mid

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. Potentially, Jack Smith the pointed over a

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Speaker 4: year later, so there's another date. Democrats in Congress and

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Speaker 4: those in the States colluding with Biden Whitehouse hide their behavior,

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Speaker 4: some of which still hasn't come to light. Statute runs

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Speaker 4: on this five years after their concealed behavior is known

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Speaker 4: to the government. This means the statue could run in

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Speaker 4: the next administration, and then you have a note of

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Speaker 4: encouragement to stop posting clickbait. I think that's all fair. Actually,

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Speaker 4: I actually was not booking you on this topic, harm Meat.

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Speaker 4: We wanted to have you on because the Minnesota topic,

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Speaker 4: and we've been covering that throughout the show today. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it was the number one topic Elon's posting about it.

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Speaker 4: So I appreciate the statute of limitations. I think you're

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Speaker 4: getting to a point that the base wants accountability, they

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Speaker 4: want results, and it's not just about the DOJ, It's

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Speaker 4: not just about Pambondi. You guys are doing great work

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Speaker 4: at the Department of Justice in a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 4: And I know because I've spoken with people. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot coming down the pike. So we can put a

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Speaker 4: pin in that if you'd like. But there's a lot

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Speaker 4: coming down the pike. Could you at least assure our

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Speaker 4: audience that you guys are working on stuff that they're

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Speaker 4: going to like.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, But let me continue the theme here of the

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Speaker 9: false narrative, which is that no one's going to go

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Speaker 9: to jail and we aren't doing anything. We haven't done anything.

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Speaker 15: Where the arrest.

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Speaker 9: This is nonsense because the Attorney General and under the DOJ,

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Speaker 9: we have actually indicted ninety nine people so far and

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Speaker 9: we're just getting started. In the Minnesota Somali fraud rings.

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Speaker 9: So far, there are over sixty convictions and please hundreds

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Speaker 9: of millions of dollars involved in restitution, and you know,

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Speaker 9: additional collateral crimes, including attempted bribery by one of these

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Speaker 9: fraudsters trying to deliver one hundred twenty thousand dollars cash

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Speaker 9: to a jurors home and things like that, and so

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Speaker 9: you know, we're also uncovering there's news of similar types

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Speaker 9: of fraud happening in Ohio and other places where the

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Speaker 9: smally community is because apparently this is a type of

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Speaker 9: fraud that they're they're talking amongst themselves, and it isn't

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Speaker 9: just Somali fraud. There's other fraud. I currently believe that

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Speaker 9: there's unstape organized fraud frankly in Away in California, where

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Speaker 9: Victor Davis Hanson talked about this recently on his podcast,

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Speaker 9: where he's talking about, you know, sort of inflated reimbursement

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Speaker 9: requests for ambulances from the state and then the states

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Speaker 9: pope's the difference, and you know, all kinds of crazy

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Speaker 9: stuff like this medicaid fraud. There's autism fraud, and on

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Speaker 9: and on and on, and so we are so dedicated

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Speaker 9: to this their career prosecutors. It's not a political thing.

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Speaker 9: This is a type of thing that they do day

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Speaker 9: in and day out. And the Attorney General is so

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Speaker 9: dedicated to it. I spoke to her about it yesterday.

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Speaker 9: She's not getting enough credit and it's not reasonable. And

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Speaker 9: so I just want people to understand that when they

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Speaker 9: say where are the arrest there's no arrest. You're just

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Speaker 9: sounding dumb, because if you cracked open a bread and

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Speaker 9: did a little bit of research, you would find that

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Speaker 9: there have been many arrests, many conviction convictions, many indictments,

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Speaker 9: and ongoing investigations here. And so I'm proud of the

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Speaker 9: CEJA and the work that we're doing, and it would

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Speaker 9: really make it easier for us to do our jobs

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Speaker 9: and we didn't have to spend time combating misinformation from

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Speaker 9: the public online, some of which is frankly malicious and

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Speaker 9: self surveying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to take a minute, just a

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Speaker 4: moment here to pause. You mentioned Victor Davis Hansen. He

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Speaker 4: announced on his show, So we just want everybody to

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Speaker 4: pray for VDH. Great American, been on this show many times.

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Speaker 4: He says, I'm having a major operation and I've been

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Speaker 4: presented with a serious problem, but I'm going to do

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Speaker 4: all i can to solve it, and that's all I

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Speaker 4: can do and trust in the power of prayer and

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Speaker 4: faith and then a wonderful surgeon. So it sounds like

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Speaker 4: he's going into surgery with a serious issue. I saw

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Speaker 4: you tweeting about that and retweeting, so I wanted to

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Speaker 4: pause right there. We love VDH. She's a good, good American,

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Speaker 4: great American, and so we wish him all the best.

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Speaker 4: Please do pray for him. We need guys like VDH

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Speaker 4: out there, a voice of stability, of just wisdom, history,

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Speaker 4: His context for just about every problem we face is incredible.

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Speaker 4: So just wanted to pause and say that. So one

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Speaker 4: of the issues that you see if you go online,

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Speaker 4: and again, this is sort of the theme of our

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Speaker 4: conversation here, harmony is people want to see Tim Waltz,

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Speaker 4: Keith Ellison. They want to see these guys indicted, arrested

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Speaker 4: for their complicity or look turning the other way. And

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Speaker 4: when they knew the fraud was happening, there's a When

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Speaker 4: the previous segment, Blake mentioned a Fox nine article from

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen where this sort of daycare fraud was publicized first,

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Speaker 4: and they were even alleging that some of the money

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Speaker 4: was getting to back to al Shabab. Even in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: then we had the City Journal reporting from Christopher Rufo

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Speaker 4: that basically alleged the same. What would it take to

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Speaker 4: indict a sitting governor? I mean, I know that you

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Speaker 4: have an official role, and there's only so much you

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Speaker 4: can say, so please, by all means be careful, but

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Speaker 4: just legally speaking, I mean, we haven't really seen anything

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Speaker 4: like that, at least in living memory.

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Speaker 9: Well what we have, I mean Rob Mgoyevitch is of

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Speaker 9: course indicted. It's the democratic governor. In fact, many when

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Speaker 9: governors have been indicted and convicted of crimes, and you

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Speaker 9: know the senators have as well, it does happen, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 9: he was sitting at the time, but he was convicted

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Speaker 9: for behavior that he allegedly engaged in while he was

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Speaker 9: a sitting governor, and so you know, it does take

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Speaker 9: time to put convictions together. So let me tell you how.

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Speaker 9: And again this is not my area of expertise. I'm

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Speaker 9: civil rights chief. I do have some criminal some jurisdiction

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Speaker 9: involving hate crimes and stuff. But there's a concept in

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Speaker 9: the DJ and also in state prosecute is called public corruption.

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Speaker 9: And they're prosecutors who specialize in public corruption cases. And

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Speaker 9: there are difficult cases to bring, and they typically involve

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Speaker 9: informants or somebody who has been engaged in criminal behavior themselves,

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Speaker 9: like paying bribes to a sitting official and then perhaps

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Speaker 9: agreeing to wear a wire or you know, otherwise there's

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Speaker 9: sufficient evidence because they play guilty and there's a grand jury,

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Speaker 9: and then there's enough evidence to go in and get

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Speaker 9: a wire tap and or financial records and then go

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Speaker 9: trace the money and build an iron clad case. And

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Speaker 9: I think that while I know there's a thirst, kind

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Speaker 9: of a revenge like thirst for convictions and prosecutions, what

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Speaker 9: we don't want is to have a situation like where

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Speaker 9: what happened to President Trump? You know, trunk upcases, concocted cases,

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Speaker 9: bs cases. So you have to actually do the homework,

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Speaker 9: put that iron clad case together, because you know what

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Speaker 9: the other side is going to say. They're going to say,

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Speaker 9: this is politicized. That's said in one hundred percent of

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Speaker 9: cases involving public figures, this is political. This is not

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Speaker 9: a real case. When we're seeing that right now, that

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Speaker 9: kind of commentary with leticip James and some others that

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Speaker 9: are in the cross airs of prosecution, and so I

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Speaker 9: think that's what is happening here. And so it isn't

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Speaker 9: enough that a public figure saw a news story five

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Speaker 9: years ago that says that there's fraud in their state.

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Speaker 9: That's not a crime, but tying them to it, tying

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Speaker 9: them to either a financial motivation or a campaign finance

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Speaker 9: motivation where they looked the other way, or they accepted

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Speaker 9: a iratuity or some benefit, or they have an ongoing

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Speaker 9: benefit including to their family or so forth that they arrange.

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Speaker 9: We're putting these cases together is important, and I can

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Speaker 9: guarantee that every single person working in the leadership with

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Speaker 9: his VOJ was like nothing more than to bring righteous

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Speaker 9: cases against corrupt public officials. But let me tell you

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Speaker 9: a little a complex complication here. You know, the whole

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Speaker 9: problem with this blue slits that has been talked about.

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Speaker 9: I'm sure you talked about it on your show. Well,

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Speaker 9: it's kind of weird when you're in a blue state

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Speaker 9: like Illinois or Minnesota or California, and the Democrat senators

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Speaker 9: get a veto over who the prosecutor can be who

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Speaker 9: might investigate them, that's an inherent conflict of interest. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I can tell you, I can tell you actual sort

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Speaker 9: of complex needs of fraud that I believe have been

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Speaker 9: committed by Democrat public figures in California, and the blue

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Speaker 9: slip process makes it such that nobody ever gets approved

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Speaker 9: by those Democrat senators who isn't someone who they think

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Speaker 9: is politically savvy enough to look the other way and

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Speaker 9: not come after them. So that's why you see less

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Speaker 9: of this. That's why sometimes these prosecutions have to occur

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Speaker 9: from a different district or out of main justice, and

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Speaker 9: a lot of this stuff never comes to light because

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Speaker 9: of that. So we do rely on public figures coming

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Speaker 9: forward and trying to help us with the issue.

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Speaker 4: We got to take a quick break, Harmon, If you

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Speaker 4: could stay with us, I want to talk about voting

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Speaker 4: roles with you. Stay right there.

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Speaker 11: Use flash democrats, America has a republic, not a democracy.

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Speaker 1: Fact check true.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I

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Speaker 4: want to tell you about our friends over at why Refi.

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Speaker 4: three hundred billion dollars. About forty five billion of that

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Speaker 4: is labeled as distressed. Why Refly refinances distressed defaulted private

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Speaker 4: student loans that others simply will not touch. So here's

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Speaker 4: the key. Why Refly is not a debt settlement company.

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Speaker 4: for your specific situation. You will not be calling a

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Speaker 4: to your your budget, your needs, how much you make,

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Speaker 4: how much you spend, and they're going to tailor a

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Speaker 4: solution for you specifically, and they're going to guarantee interest

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Speaker 4: score is. Everything they do is not going to impact

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Speaker 4: your credit score. It's a very quick process to see

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Speaker 4: how they can help you. So if you find yourself

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Speaker 4: assure you that they are wonderful, wonderful people to work

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Speaker 4: check them out. We are going to continue on with

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Speaker 4: harmeet Dylan. She has updates on voting laws and cases

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01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 4: that she is prosecuting right now, as well as gun cases.

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Speaker 4: So we want to get all of those details, Please

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Speaker 4: send us your emails Freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com,

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01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 4: Freedom at Charliekirk dot com. I also want to give

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Speaker 4: a quick update. President Trump is meeting with Benjamin Nette Yahoo.

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Speaker 4: We will see if there's news being made there on

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Speaker 4: the news out of Gaza in the Middle East. And

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Speaker 4: also tomorrow on The Charlie Kirkshow, we're going to be

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Speaker 4: doing a year in review. We're going to be playing

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01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 4: some special Charlie clips, some selfies that maybe you forgot

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Speaker 4: or never saw, so it's going to be a special

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Speaker 4: time and I want to give you all a shout

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Speaker 4: out as well. One of our most downloaded podcasts was

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01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 4: the show they did Without Me, remembering the whole team here,

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01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 4: remembering what they loved most about Charlie and some of

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Speaker 4: their memories. So thank you guys for your support on

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Speaker 4: that episode. We'll be right back with Harmeat Dillon Don't

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Speaker 4: go anywhere, all right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: A little bit of breaking news. The United States has

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Speaker 4: just conducted its first land strike against Venezuela. President Trump

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01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 4: is confirmed the military took out a drug facility, resulting

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Speaker 4: in a massive explosion. So we're going to keep our

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01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 4: eyes on that. That's a little bit of breaking news.

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Speaker 4: So our meet in the midst of this Venezuelan news

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01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 4: and the bv net and Yahoo News, you have news

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Speaker 4: on voting integrity, voter integrity as well as some gun

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01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 4: cases that you're working. Please tell us about them.

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Speaker 9: Well, Chreo, let's talk about the voting cases first. So

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Speaker 9: a few months ago I started this process of requesting

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Speaker 9: the voter roles from all the states and territories in

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Speaker 9: the United States and accent Memphis share them with us

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01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:45,719
Speaker 9: so that we can help these states compare their voter

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Speaker 9: roles against our government data and clean their voter roles,

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Speaker 9: which is a requirement of states under federal law to

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Speaker 9: help America Vote Act, amongst others. And so there was

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Speaker 9: a lot of heaving and hauling, including from red states,

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Speaker 9: a lot of back and forth, and then some outright

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Speaker 9: refusal to operate from many states. And so I am

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Speaker 9: proud to report that today I'm in litigation with twenty

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Speaker 9: two states in the United States, and that's actually twenty

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Speaker 9: three lawsuits because California has two lawsuits. I also have

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Speaker 9: voluntary compliance from thirteen states, including Texas and several others,

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Speaker 9: and even on Christmas Eve, Andrew I had secretaries of

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Speaker 9: state uploading their data to the DJ so that we

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Speaker 9: could do our work on it and help them clean

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Speaker 9: their voter roles. And so we're engaged in quarter or

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Speaker 9: in settlements with almost every state. I got North Carolina

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Speaker 9: early on to enter into a settlement agreement with us

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Speaker 9: to clean up over one hundred thousand voter records that

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Speaker 9: had been improperly recorded and they didn't get the correct

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Speaker 9: data about citizenship from those voters. I'm suing Georgia, including

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Speaker 9: for the Fulton County ballots that we were requested several

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Speaker 9: months ago and that they refused to give us. So

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Speaker 9: we're in multiple lawsuits over there. And of course even

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Speaker 9: after we wow that loss into the same week we

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Speaker 9: saw the lawsuits. Last week, all that news came out

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Speaker 9: about hundreds of thousands of improperly recorded votes with inappropriate

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Speaker 9: chain of custody and other inditia in Georgia. So it

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Speaker 9: is really important work. We're excited about it. I wish

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Speaker 9: I had more hands than most people at the DNJ

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Speaker 9: to do this work. We are hiring very aggressively, So

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Speaker 9: if anybody watching this as a lawyer who wants to

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Speaker 9: come help their country and to our duty and help

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Speaker 9: clean up our voter roles and ensure election integrity. We're

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Speaker 9: looking to hire people on that, and so I always

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Speaker 9: keep people posted as people. As states are refusing to

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Speaker 9: give me their data, we get to a point where

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Speaker 9: we know it's going to be they know we sue them,

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Speaker 9: and so we put our money where our mouth is.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I would have thought when I got

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Speaker 9: in there Andrew, that I would have some template to

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Speaker 9: pull from, because surely the video JA did this before, right,

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Speaker 9: they never did it before. No Republican administration or even

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Speaker 9: Democrat administration did voter role litigation before.

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Speaker 4: And I want to I want to pause you there.

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Speaker 4: This is something Blake brought up earlier that you know,

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Speaker 4: you look back at what Tom Emmer was saying about

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Speaker 4: the Somali population twenty fifteen. We need them. They're more

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Speaker 4: American and they're going to assimilate.

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Speaker 13: He said, they assimilated better than any other group, and

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Speaker 13: they were you know, the Germans had done the exact

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Speaker 13: same thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he said. So that's what he said.

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Speaker 4: But Blake made the astute point that now Tom emmer

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Speaker 4: Is on Fox basically calling for prosecutions and accountability, and listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily letting him off the hook for being

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Speaker 4: a part of the problem in the first place. What

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Speaker 4: I am saying is the tone and tenor of the

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Speaker 4: entire conservative movement. If you took a snapshot in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 4: and then you took a snapshot in the end here

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty five, going into twenty twenty six, the aggressiveness,

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Speaker 4: the just conservativeness of the people in power and the

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Speaker 4: people in charge. We are light years ahead of where

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Speaker 4: we were a decade ago, thanks to President Trump, thanks

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Speaker 4: to Charlie Kirk, thanks to people like you, Harmy, and

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Speaker 4: so I just want to I just want to make

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Speaker 4: sure as there's all this consternation and frustration in the base,

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01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 4: it seems with lack of results, we are moving in

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Speaker 4: a very good direction. We have har Meat Dylan at

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Speaker 4: the DOJ, suing states to clean up voter rolls and

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01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 4: having massive results. That's the implications of that couldn't be bigger,

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Speaker 4: harm Meet, because it's going to affect the midterms, It's

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Speaker 4: going to affect twenty twenty eight's that's huge. What states

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Speaker 4: I have to just ask, are the worst on the

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Speaker 4: voter rules? Who is fighting you the most cleaning up

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Speaker 4: their voter? Is it California?

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Speaker 9: I would presume, But well, if California is definitely in

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Speaker 9: resistance mode, New York name, you know, look, Illinois, the

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Speaker 9: usual suspects. All these states where they don't require voter

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Speaker 9: ID they don't I mean Minnesota, my goodness, you can.

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Speaker 9: I mean Scott Pressler the front of mine posted about

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Speaker 9: this yesterday, where you can go in and simply vouch

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01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 9: for somebody's address, Like you can bring your eight Somali

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01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 9: buds in and say, I vouch for this person's address.

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01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 9: That's all you need. You don't need a utility bill,

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01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 9: you don't need anything but some potential fraustures vouching. That's insane. Yeah,

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01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 9: you can't run a country like that.

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Speaker 4: We're running out of time, but I just want to say,

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Speaker 4: good work. We have your back one hundred percent, and

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Speaker 4: thanks for the updates, thanks for sticking with it, and

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01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 4: you know, thanks for educating people a little bit. I

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01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 4: think that was important. We will have you back on

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Speaker 4: again soon. Keep up the good work. We will see

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Speaker 4: you all having Yeah, absolutely, talk to you then