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Yeah, can't 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: wait for the Tax Act Texas Bowl? Are you hosting 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: this year? I hosted last year. My place is still 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: a mess. No, I'm not going to do it. No, 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: not going to do it? Is that such a good sprit? 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: I know, I know, it just gets too emotional when 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: I host the Tax Act Texas Bowl. It's hard for 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: me to really focus on the game itself. A Tuesday 36 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: night game after the semi final games, and then this 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: is what I Okay, I wasn't planning on doing this, 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: but but I'm gonna do this. Now. I'm gonna watch it. 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm gonna watch this football game but 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: this is what college football should do. If you're going 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: to do it and have a standalone game, then why 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: not have the entire week leading up to the National 43 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: Title game with other bowl games? Because you're cramming all 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: these other bowl games in. How about this, you have 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: a game tonight and then tomorrow night and then the 46 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: next night, maybe the national title game with Division one 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: double a Montana State versus North Dakota State. Oh, how 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: about a standalone game with that? Get eyeballs on it? 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Yes see, football players are creatures that have it. They're 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: not used to play. Okay, that's their long toss day. Yeah, 51 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: well the mac is mac will play this afternoon. Yes, 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I like this. Dan, you're so bothered by this standalone 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Tuesday game. You're suggesting more bowl games, more standalone games. 54 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I like this, Yeah, standalone games. By the way, Caleb 55 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Williams is a star quarterback at Oklahoma, or at least 56 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: he was, and he took Spencer Ratler's job. Spencer Ratler 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: was supposed to be a Heisman Trophy candidate, to which 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: I said, did you guys watch him the previous year? 59 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Because he shouldn't be a Heisman Trophy candidate. He transferred 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: to South Carolina. So now Caleb Williams loses his head coach, 61 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley to USC and he's in the transfer portal, 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: which doesn't mean he's leaving, but it is surprising because 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: you go to Oklahoma if you're a quarterback Kyler, Murray, 64 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts. But you went there because Lincoln Riley, 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: now the quarterback whisper, has gone to USC. Caleb Williams 66 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: is open for business, and that's what this is. You 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: would think, Okay, he's going to follow Lincoln Riley to USC. 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: Well I was told last night not so fast, because maybe, 69 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: just maybe a team it's playing for the national championship 70 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: would be interested in Caleb Williams. And that's Georgia because 71 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: their quarterback is a senior I believe is Stetson senior Pollie. 72 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't actually don't think it would matter if he 73 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: was a freshman because people love to upgrade. But yes, 74 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: you're right, and then they have JT. Daniels and I 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: was told Georgia could be in the mix for Caleb Williams. Well, 76 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: now you're open for business because you can just say, hey, 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: I might stay at Oklahoma. But I might not. The name, 78 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: image and likeness allows everybody to say, hey, here's our 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: best offer, and you can do it legally. So Bryce 80 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: Young made from what I'm told, one point two to 81 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: one point three million dollars at Alabama last year. I 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: was told that this morning. Yeah. So, if you're Caleb Williams, Okay, 83 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: we know what the starting rate is going to be 84 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: around that area, and who wants to have me come 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: help your program? Yeah? Se So are you saying that 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: the transfer portal could just essentially be used as a 87 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: way to negotiate more money from yes, and I l Yeah. 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: You'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna leave. I might dot 89 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: dot dot, I might leave dot dot dot. Yeah, yeah, 90 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: I might come back. But then there was a transfer 91 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: from Central Florida? Is it? Dylan Gabriel was gonna go 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: to He was gonna start classes at UCLA yesterday. An 93 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: hour later he decides he's going to Oklahoma, which makes 94 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: me think Caleb Williams is not going to stay at 95 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma because Dylan Gabriel was. You imagine you got your 96 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: book bag and you're walking to class, and you know, 97 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: you get a text, Hey, Caleb Williams out at okloa 98 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: transfer portal, and then all of a sudden you just 99 00:05:54,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: keep walking you uh, I mean you probably got Yeah. 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: How long does it take to get from you know, 101 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: southern California to Norman, Oklahoma? Ten hours? Yeah, well unless 102 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: we send the jet to pick you up there. Wow, 103 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean this is crazy. So he's going to class. 104 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: He had transferred to UCLA, Now all of a sudden, 105 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: he's going to Oklahoma. Yes. Shouldn't these student athletes be 106 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: worried if their credits are going to transfer over? They 107 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: love to retake classes. I love the expression student athlete. 108 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites because I think they should 109 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: be just athletic students. It's let's let's not kid anybody. Now. Yes, 110 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: there are some who go to class. Yes, there are 111 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: some who care about their degree. But for the most part, 112 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: you're probably just an athletic student. Yes, Polly Bryce Young, 113 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the twenty year old sophomore quarterback in the Alabama How 114 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: much do you say estimated he made? I was told 115 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: one point two to one point three million. Jalen Hurtz, 116 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: who's in his second year with the Eagles, made eight 117 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty three thousand. That's a professional quarterback with 118 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles this year eighty three thousand. Let go yeah, 119 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: go back. Stay in college yeah no, seller cap No, 120 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: you got more freedom in college now than you do 121 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like Trevor Lawrence can't enter the transfer 122 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: portal to get out of Jacksonville. I mean he might 123 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: want to, But Caleb Williams has more freedom than Trevor 124 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence does and is making it might make more money 125 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: than Trevor Lawrence this first first year. Yes see, can 126 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: you believe what we're saying right now and that it's 127 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: all real? You know that you can have a coach 128 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: take off and leave, and then their quarterback and be like, 129 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna go to and they could 130 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: leave in the same year now, and they can also make, 131 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, seven figures off of their own likeness. And 132 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: all of these things are real right now. But this 133 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: is what now. The nc double as don't smart enough 134 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: to be have done this strategically, but name, image and 135 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: likeness takes everything off of their plate. Now they don't 136 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: have to worry about schools doing nefarious things. They don't 137 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: have to share anything. All it is is, hey, go ahead, 138 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want. Just leave us out 139 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: of this yes time. Now that it's off the plate, 140 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: what exactly is on they have to worry about or 141 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: do or function. I would love to go to NCAA 142 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: headquarters and just see what happens during the day, Like 143 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: what do you do? Do you just say, let's hold 144 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: a meeting? What about I don't know, let's hold a 145 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,559 Speaker 1: meeting to decide if we're going to hold a meeting. 146 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: When when I worked at the YES can we we 147 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: led the league in meetings? It would be like, do 148 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: I have to have a meeting? N Now is the 149 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: zoom call where it's like, hey, you want to jump 150 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: on a zoom call? No, I don't want to because 151 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: ninety people are on a damn zoom call. Yes, there's 152 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: nothing worse than the meeting to set up the meeting. 153 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: Let's have a meeting to figure out when the meeting 154 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: is going to be. Yeah, Like oh my god. Yeah. 155 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: So that's what's happening with college football right now. But 156 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: it's it's wild. It is the wild waw West. And 157 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any of these coaches you 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: know that, or any of these announcers talking about the 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: commitment to football. You know, we do not hold coaches accountable. 160 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Do they love the game? They love the money. That's 161 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: why they're taking another job. And when a player decides 162 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: to do that. They don't love the game. They don't 163 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: want to play in a bowl game. They don't love 164 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: the sport they do. It's a business because if it's 165 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: a business for grown ass men, then it can be 166 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: a business for these kids. And I have no problem 167 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: with it. Do I want to see them playing a 168 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: bowl game? Yes? Do I want to see them complete 169 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: their college degree? Yes, all of those things. But man, 170 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: that's a pipe dream right now because the game has 171 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: changed dramatically from when I grew up to what you 172 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: expect it out of an athlete. Yes, you get free education, 173 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: you get clothes, you get all of these things. Okay, 174 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: now you get a chance to capitalize on your name, 175 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: image and likeness. Caleb Williams wants to transfer from Oklahoma 176 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: and go wherever. Go ahead, because it's a free market 177 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: place right now. And this is what makes coaches really 178 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: nerves this because they don't have control, and coaches are 179 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: control freaks. Got off on a side tangent there, but 180 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: I had a conversation this morning with one of my sources, 181 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: and we were talking about Caleb Williams. I, oh, Caleb 182 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: open for business. And then my source said, yeah, well 183 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: if Bryce got one point whatever two or one point 184 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: three million, you know, you just put your name out there. 185 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you'll capitalize on it. But he said, I 186 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't rule out Georgia as a place for him to go. 187 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: USC seems like it. George's winning now ready to win 188 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: a national championship. Now USC is going to take a 189 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: little bit of time. Yes, But that it used to 190 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: be like, oh yeah, the guy of the car dealership 191 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: over there is they're taking care of everybody. Yeah. Now 192 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: it's like, well I'm gonna enter the transfer portal and 193 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: then car dealership sweeps in there. Here you go, here's 194 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: a million dollars. Yeah what Well, now it's legal because 195 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: you don't have to go. You know. I heard stories where, 196 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, the car dealer gives players cars and they 197 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: sometimes times work at the car dealership on the weekend. 198 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: Those are air quotes if you're listening on radio, and 199 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: now you can just say here's the deal, like, you 200 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: know what, you don't even have to show up. We're 201 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: just gonna pay you, and yeah, you get a car, name, 202 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: image and likeness. Yeah, Paul, I miss the old days 203 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: with the gym bag in the back of the car 204 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: lay the front part. It's like marijuana and it's so 205 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: clean and fat sanitized. I remember the old days. You've 206 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: been a ball game, someone's hiding it, playing out a 207 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: huge joint. Yeah, come on the old days, old day. Yeah, 208 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: we miss those. You know when you got a shoe 209 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: box full of money and they put it. Ah, I 210 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: mean not me, yes time. I definitely got Dad and 211 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: his new tractor and Mom, all of a sudden's got 212 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: a job in the communications department of HR. Yeah. Now 213 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: what's all legal? That's not fun. Nobody's gonna be making movies, 214 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: you know about that? Like blue Chips. Yeah, people are 215 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna look at blue Chips twenty years and now I go, wait, 216 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: what did they used to do? They used to they 217 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: used to what? All right? Eight seven seven three d 218 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: P Show email address DP at dan patrick dot com, 219 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Twitter handle it DPS Show. Chris Simms, on loan from 220 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: MDC Sports, will join us. We'll check in with the 221 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers as well. That'll be coming up a 222 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: little bit later on. Ben wraps up his career at Hinesfield. 223 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: It went from is this possibly Ben? Could this be 224 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: Ben's last home game? To the very end of the game, 225 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, yeah, it's it's his last. He did 226 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: a cal Ripken loop and I went, yes, this is 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: his last game. Can we stop this? Well, I don't know, 228 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: it couldn't, it might not sure, and I'm like, this 229 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: is Ben's last game. Nobody wanted to announce it. Ben 230 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: couldn't announce it because then it would feel like Ben 231 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: was making it about Ben. The Steelers can't, so it 232 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: felt like, let's just sort of leave it out there. 233 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: And then then you're seeing these signs thanks for the 234 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: memories and thank you Ben and his families there. They 235 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: sent him out all by himself to start, and then 236 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he does it cal Ripken loop 237 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: and I went and oh this it this it ballgame, 238 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: last home game for Ben Roethlisberger. You know it's weird. 239 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: If you go, who would you rather have as your 240 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: starting quarterback right now? Ben Roethlisberger or Baker Mayfield, You'd 241 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: probably take Ben. At least. It's a coin toss here 242 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield will hear from Baker feels like he's 243 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: trying to leverage the Hey, I played through pain this year, Okay? 244 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: Was that the best thing for the team and the 245 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: best thing for him, because as we talked about yesterday, 246 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make it worse on himself by 247 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: playing hurt. And it was national TV where everybody was 248 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: weighing in, including the Manning brothers who did not mince words. 249 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: They were just looking at what Baker was doing and 250 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: how he was doing it in the game played the 251 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's head. But Baker Mayfield, if he was more 252 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: confident in this long term contract, the contract extension, he 253 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: would have had shoulder surgery a couple of weeks ago. 254 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: In my opinion, that would have been the smart move here. 255 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Not play through pain because you didn't help You didn't 256 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: help your team. I love that you want to play. 257 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Is it best for you to play? We'll talk to 258 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: Chris Simms about that. Phone calls are welcome. We'll settle 259 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: on a poll question, play of the day. All of 260 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: that forthcoming. We're fired up, ready to go. Dan and 261 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: the Dana stan Patrick Show. 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Be 282 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 283 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 284 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 285 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. We'll 286 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: settle on a poll question, got our play of the day, 287 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: A couple of stats of the day coming up, and 288 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: we'll check in with Chris Simms, NBC Sports and Football 289 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Night in America. Steeler sack Baker Mayfield nine times, most 290 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: sacks in a game by a Pittsburgh defense since two 291 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: thousand and one. T J. Watt may have wrapped up 292 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: the defensive Player of the Year with his performance last 293 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: night with three sacks. We're going to talk about how 294 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: we're looking at these records. Seventeen games for Cooper Cup, 295 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: seventeen for t J. Watt may break the sack record 296 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup with what he's doing receiving wise. We'll talk 297 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: about that coming up here in a moment. Here is 298 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last night with a reporter talking about him 299 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: playing through Payne. Are you glad that they didn't pull 300 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: you out of there, just, you know, for safety reasons? 301 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: Are you glad you had a chance to try to 302 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: pull it out in the air yeah, I mean there's 303 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity to win. I'm extremely competitive guy. I think 304 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: you guys know that. Now it's time for me to start, 305 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, looking at what's in the best interests for 306 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: me and my house. I've continued to lay it out 307 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: on the line when I haven't been healthy and tried 308 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: to fight for our guys. Right now, pretty damn beat up, 309 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, there's no way around it. 310 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I gave it everything I had the night. Yeah, I 311 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: think he's trying to leverage this. I'm playing through pain 312 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: and I can admire it. But also as a coaching staff, 313 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: I have to look at what's smart for our team 314 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: and smart for Baker Mayfield. Like bigger pictures, smaller picture here. 315 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I found really curious there. You know, 316 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: has Baker helped them by being in the lineup. No, 317 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: he hasn't. And while I want these guys to want 318 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: to play play through pain. Always felt like Steve McNair 319 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: was always hurt, but never hurt enough that it would 320 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: really hurt his performance. Here. Roethlisberger same way. I always 321 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: felt like there was something that was nicked up on him, 322 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: but he was still able to play Baker needs surgery 323 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: on his non throwing shoulder. You know, I just would 324 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: have shut him down a couple of weeks ago. You know, 325 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: you just I didn't understand it. Let's bring in Chris 326 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Simms Football Night in America Pro Football Talk Live co 327 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: host with Mike Florio. Where do you stand with this 328 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: situation as the Browns move forward? Well, you know, I 329 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: know we've talked about it in the past. I'm one, 330 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, right off the bat. As far as, like, 331 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, Baker Mayfield, I think you make good points. 332 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: You know, it is up to the organization, the head 333 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: coach to evaluate it for you know, what is best 334 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: for our football team. And yeah, injuries all missed a 335 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: week of practice because of COVID. Maybe that's not when 336 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: you play the guy. You're right, Oh, that's right. He 337 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: threw four interceptions in that game, you know. I mean, 338 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: so your point is real there, there's no doubt about it. 339 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: As far as Baker Mayfield and the Browns and that 340 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: whole situation going forward, I think, you know, we talked 341 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: about this maybe about a month ago. I mean, I 342 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: expect Baker Mayfield to be back, But like the red 343 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: carpet or the you know, the road parade or the honeymoon, 344 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: it's over. We're at that point here now. Officially, there's 345 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: no doubt whether they want to make it more of 346 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: a competition between case Keenum or bringing another QB to 347 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: have them there as a backup plan. But I don't 348 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: think we're gonna see Baker Mayfield long term extension. No way. 349 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: There's no way I would do that if I'm the 350 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. They exercise their right to get the fifth 351 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: year option, and they got to continue to evaluate this 352 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: as they go forward. But but do you pull the 353 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: band aid now, though, Chris, because this is still a 354 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: really talented team. Let's say Deshaun Watson's in play in Cleveland. 355 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: Let's say Russell Wilson's in play. Let's say Jimmy Garoppolo, 356 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: let's say Aaron Rodgers. Like, you know, if you're the Browns, 357 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: I think you got to look at big picture instead 358 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: of going, well, we don't want Baker long term, but 359 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: at eighteen million dollars next year, that's not bad for 360 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. And then at what point are you 361 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: saying we're wasting another season or does it become a 362 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: distraction for the Browns in Baker Mayfield with that contract 363 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: extension next year. Well, I you know, again, if you 364 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: have the chance to get a Watson or Wilson or 365 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: somebody like that, then fine, then okay, maybe I would 366 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: think about like you're talking about ripping the band aid 367 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: off and going okay, these are proven entities. We know 368 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: what they are. We're not exactly sure of what Baker 369 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Mayfield is. Now. I'm not gonna throw but but you 370 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: better have somebody like that, I guess, is what I 371 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: would say, at least in my opinion. I'm not saying 372 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: I'm right, but we have seen enough spurts through Baker 373 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Mayfield's career to know there is some talent and he 374 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: can do some good things on the football field. We 375 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: saw that at the end of the twenty twenty season. 376 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: You know, they had the Chiefs on their heels in 377 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: the playoff game. He played very good down this stretch 378 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: last year, so there is at least some evidence to go, hey, wait, 379 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: he can make some game changing plays and throws and 380 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: lead our team. There's some things that like there. I'm 381 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: not trading them away for Jimmy Garoppolo. No, I'm definitely not. 382 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the angle of there's still more potential 383 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: in Baker Mayfield's ultimate talent than a guy like Jimmy Garoppola. 384 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: But again, you know, I don't think you just throw 385 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: them overboard for anybody. There's issues there in Cleveland. You know, 386 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the guy's doing the telecast last night explained it. I 387 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: think in a lot of ways too. You know, what 388 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: was the approach to that football game? What the hell 389 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: was going on there? Baker Mayfield was beat up, no 390 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: doubt about it. They obviously couldn't protect him. You know, 391 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: Stefanski one of the I was one of those that 392 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: was not a huge fan of the hire in Cleveland 393 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: because I've always been underwhelmed by the passing offense of 394 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: the Stefanski scheme. That's what I've never and I look 395 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: at that and go, Okay, you know, the talent's okay 396 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: in the passing game, but the scheme is underwhelming to me, 397 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: and it's a little predictable. So I do give Baker 398 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Mayfield a little bit of the benefit of that too. 399 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: But there's gonna be some tough decisions that have to 400 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: be made there in Cleveland because as you know, as 401 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: we all know, it's one of the most disappointing stories 402 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: or teams in football this year? Would you rather have 403 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtzer Baker Mayfield. Well, you gotta have a if 404 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna go Jalen Hurts, right, And I was. I'm 405 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, I took l with the Jalen Hurts thing 406 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: before the year. I didn't make him one of my 407 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: top forty quarterbacks. You know. Now at that time I 408 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of was more evaluating it is. They're gonna try 409 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: to make him a drop back quarterback and make him 410 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, Philip Rivers and the Los Angeles Chargers system. 411 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: You know. But I've certainly have been proven wrong and 412 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: and and where I'm wrong is they went all in 413 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: on you know, he's a better runner than I thought 414 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: he was. And of course they have a great offensive line, 415 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: so they're playing a different style of football. You have 416 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: to be committed to play a certain style of football. 417 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: I think with you have Jalen Hurts, it is gonna 418 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: be a Lamar Jackson type offense. You're not gonna get 419 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: surgical like precision drop back passing and a guy that's 420 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna be capable of going thirty for thirty five for 421 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty yards from Jalen Hurts. So that's 422 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: where it's different. You gotta figure out what kind of 423 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: offense you're gonna run. That's why it's a tough one. 424 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: Dan traditional offense. I want Baker Mayfield. We're gonna go 425 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: all in on the all running game and all that. 426 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: Then yes, I'll go Jalen Hurts. There we're talking to 427 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host and also 428 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: contributor to Sunday Night Football. All Right, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 429 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: moving forward, you don't have Chris Godwin, you don't have 430 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Defense hasn't played up to its standards that 431 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: we saw in this Super Bowl. Leonard Fournette's been out. 432 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: You still have Tom Brady. Yeah. What do you think 433 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: the playoff future of the Buccaneers is? Well, it's scary 434 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: right now. It is. Again, they're a beautifully constructed football team, 435 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: but I don't even know for as well constructed as 436 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: they are, I don't even know if they can overcome 437 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: this amount of injuries and go for a Super Bowl run. 438 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: So I do think like the threshold of injuries has 439 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: hit a point where I go, h it makes me 440 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: look at them as a different football team. You know, 441 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: Shack Barrett Jpp not in their vante David, you know 442 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: secondary been banged up, have issues there. You mentioned all 443 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: the guys on the offensive side of the ball, So 444 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: at full strength or close to full strength, I certainly 445 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: still think they're one of the best teams in the NFC, 446 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: but I need to kind of see how these next 447 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: two weeks go as far as the health of their 448 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: football team and where they can get by wildcard weekend. 449 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: I think that would make me dictate that. But like, 450 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: I'm definitely a little concerned right now, Dan, there's no 451 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Where maybe four weeks ago, but I 452 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: got ah, I'm okay, they're gonna They're gonna make a 453 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: run and get this together. They're kind of just sleepwalking 454 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: right now. They know what they're capable of. They'll step 455 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: on the gas pedal right now. I'm kind of like, 456 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they can do this with this 457 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: group of guys. Here. Is Antonio Brown an issue or 458 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: does he have issues because all of a sudden Tom 459 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Brady says he needs help? Well, did he need help 460 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: just because what happened on Sunday? Or has he always 461 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: needed help? And we keep kind of masking the issue here, 462 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I think so yeah. I mean I think he's always 463 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: needed help. You've kind of always heard that from every 464 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: place he goes, but it just kind of gets swiped 465 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: under the rug and they the next team gets him 466 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: and goes, oh damn, he works hard and he's talented. 467 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: What there was issues at the other place we haven't 468 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: seen that, you know, And then of course that slowly 469 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: comes about again. I'm not trying to play psychologists here 470 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: or anything like that, but it certainly seems at surface 471 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: level or what we're seeing that there are issues there. 472 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: And the bucks Field burned. I mean, they just stuck 473 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: their neck out there for a guy who had a 474 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: fake vaccine card and made them a spectacle of the 475 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: sport for a week and how they were going to 476 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: handle it and put the NFL in a tough spot. 477 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: And then here we go and you cause this you know, 478 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: distraction disaster, whatever you want to call it on Sunday. 479 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it, So, you know, I 480 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of both there at play. 481 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, he does need help, it seems like, 482 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: but hey, we had enough evidence to know that this 483 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: was a possibility with him, and when you play with fire, 484 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: you get burned sometimes and they're they're buttch up burned 485 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: on this one. Yeah, it's it's just like you've got 486 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: to get another chance. Yeah you think so, well, I 487 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: just that that's the meaning the million dollar question. You know, 488 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: we know talent talks in the NFL, and a lot 489 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: of issues get get get pushed to the side when 490 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: a guy can still get open or still play at 491 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: a high level to where that I would think the 492 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: Bucks right now are kind of trying to play. They're 493 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: trying to look if they can suspend him without pay 494 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: or keep him on the roster. So a team like 495 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs or the Rams or the Packers don't pick 496 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: him up and get him for a six week you know, 497 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: clean slate and it ends up kicking their button and 498 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: ends up, you know, kicking their button the playoffs or 499 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I think that's what they're probably worried 500 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: about now. Yeah. I think the Tampa that you know, 501 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: there's salary camp issues, like how can they do it 502 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: that minimizes even further damage and doesn't allow him to 503 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: get out of jail and go play for one of 504 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: these other teams. Do you love Joe Burrow or do 505 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: you love Joe Brow. I love Joe Burrow. I love him, 506 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: I really do. And he's gotten better and the things 507 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: that I questioned about. You know, first off, he's the 508 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: magic man. He just cooled Joe, whatever you want to 509 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: call him, He's unbelievable. He's the natural. He really is 510 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: the natural at the position. I had one question about 511 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: him coming out in the draft, just overall arm strength. 512 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: You know, that was the one thing I went and 513 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: just went, man, I'm gonna give him the edge on Herbert. 514 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: Herbert has more physical ability. You know, Burrow can make 515 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: all the throws, but you know, I wish there was 516 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 1: a little bit more power in the arm. All he 517 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: talked about in the offseason was improving his arm, improving 518 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: some mechanics to throw the ball with more power. You 519 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: see that, you know. So he just has everything. He's 520 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: got every club in the bag. He's so cool and 521 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: calm under pressure. He's one of the most slippery s 522 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: obs in full ball in the pocket, work in the pocket. 523 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the Bengals were a dysfunction and 524 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: we're going, man, does Joe Burrow really want to go there? 525 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: And the guy and the player are so awesome in 526 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: both aspects that now we look at the Bengals as 527 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: a different thing. I'm going it's the most exciting team 528 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: we've seen in football. They got a bright future and 529 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: that's all because of him. And that's why I love 530 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. If you could start your franchise with one 531 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: quarterback from the two thousand and four draft, Eli Philip 532 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: Rivers or Ben Roethlisberger, knowing what you know, now, yeah, 533 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Big Ben. I am again, I'm 534 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: a I'm a sucker for talent, I guess more than anything. 535 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I respect the hell out of those other two guys, 536 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I do, but Big Ben, to me, it's just the 537 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: best of the three period, you know, consistently playing at 538 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: a high level. And I think the biggest thing to 539 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: Dan that will where I give him the edge is 540 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: just when you know he is capable of carrying the 541 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: team when things aren't great, especially in his prime. I 542 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: mean he had some years there where. Now they went 543 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl with like arguably one of the three, 544 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: four or five worst offensive lines in the game and 545 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. That's really rare for that to happen, 546 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: and that's because he was so gifted. You know, he 547 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: his ability to throw with people around him or you know, 548 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: take those little Fred Flintstone steps around the pocket and 549 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: move around and pub and Facon and people hanging on him, 550 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: and he's just, oh, I'm still gonna throw it and 551 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: get a first down. That's where I give him a 552 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: little edge. It's a little different because I don't think 553 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: he was necessarily studying the playbook or grinding film. I 554 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: think he was, you know, he's a little bit more 555 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: like just backyard football. But it's also why I love 556 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: him and I would take him over the other two. 557 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: Packers have many issues. Yes, I question, you know, won 558 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: the defense to a degree. I mean, how can you not. 559 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: I know, let's forget the Vikings game this week without 560 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. You know, all the weeks before that, man 561 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: run game, pass game teams have been having their way 562 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: with the Packers defense. I question the Packer in a 563 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: year where there's no great team in the NFL and 564 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: it's really going to come down to matchups in these playoffs. 565 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: I just question the high end talent of the Packers. 566 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm one of the I think them one of the 567 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: few out there that I just go. They're good. I 568 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: get it. They have Aaron Rodgers, he's the MVP. But 569 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: can you really get to the Super super Bowl by 570 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: not messing games up execution and just riding Davante Adams 571 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers. That's where I don't know they're gonna 572 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: end up playing teams in the playoffs. Here. Of course, 573 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: we're well coached and I believe have more talent than them. 574 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: And that's where I'm a little bit, you know, not 575 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: sure about if the Packers can really get to the 576 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl. I think what 577 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: they do well though, is they're mixing in the run 578 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: a lot more and that makes them I love a 579 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: team that gives you that option of running the football. 580 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: Look back on the Buccaneers with Leonard Fournette last year, 581 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: like he was a real difference maker, all of those 582 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: running backs that Brady had when he was in New England. 583 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: You have to have that element there. You can't be 584 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: one dimensional. I don't think. You have to have a 585 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: defense that has the ability to stop you when they 586 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: need to, and I think being able to run the football, 587 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: and I see that with Green Bay defense is getting 588 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: some of their star players back block TR's coming back. 589 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: You got two running backs. With Green Bay, you have 590 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: home field advantage, maybe a true home field advantage. And 591 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: you know that's why I like bring Bay. Yeah, yeah, 592 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I hear you there, and jail Alexander and him getting 593 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: back will be a huge thing. I mean, if they 594 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: can get him back, I mean he's went healthy. Definitely 595 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: one of the five best corners in football is Zadarius Smith. 596 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball. Would be another 597 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: huge edition because again, like I said, I question their 598 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: top end talent, and I think your offense running game 599 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: things are real thing. I mean, we've really only seen 600 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: the Chiefs here in the last ten twelve years be 601 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: able to go and win a Super Bowl and do 602 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: that without like a run game. Yeah, they're one of 603 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: the few teams we've seen do that, and that okay, 604 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: but they have, like some others, really really special attributes 605 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: that have helped them overcome that. You're right there with 606 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay and then with Rogers at the Helm. They 607 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: never waste plays. They're very unbelievable at executing managing the 608 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: football game, and they just don't make mistakes, especially on 609 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, and that's what makes 610 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: them tough to beat to your point. Dan, thank you, Bud, 611 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: good to talk to you again. Thank you, Chris, Thanks guys, 612 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: be good, have good. Tell all those jerks. I said, hello, 613 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: hey jerks, he says hello. Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk 614 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Live co host and contributor to Football Night in America. 615 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: We got news about the Washington football team and about 616 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: their nickname. That's next, Dan Patrick Show. When you get 617 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: finished golfing, lifting weights, running around the neighborhood, your body 618 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: doesn't recover the way it used to, so you can 619 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: do what I do. It's about store muscle's post workout 620 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: discomfort popping up in new spots all the time. 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Be 638 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 639 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 640 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 641 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. He's 642 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Bayer. We have a brand new 643 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. Twice a week, 644 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and Friday, we come up with new episodes 645 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: to not only look back at what happened, what you 646 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: need to do at that minute, and also look ahead 647 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. That's right, Dan. 648 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: Every week we're going to scour the Waiver Wire to 649 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: find the pickups to turbo boost your fantasy lineup, sits starts, 650 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: fantasy football players rankings to get you ready to dominate 651 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: the competition. Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike 652 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: Carmen and me Dan Byer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple 653 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: Podcast and wherever you get your podcasts. Oh my god, 654 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: Play of the day play This is the play on 655 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: the day. Check this out. Third and three gets the call, 656 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: cuts it back through the hole. He's on. He's out 657 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: of twenty five fifteen ten Pittsburgh Dinner cutdown Harris. That's 658 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: your play of the day. Steelers Radio Network. Naji Harris 659 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: finishes well, he's not done yet, but a career high 660 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 1: one eighty eight last night. He's got eleven hundred seventy 661 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: two yards on the season, breaking the Steelers rookie rushing 662 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: record of Franco. Harris said in nineteen seventy two of 663 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: one thousand and fifty five, how many games were they 664 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: playing back then in the season, Paulie fourteen fourteen games. 665 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: Now we're picking and choosing with records of hey, that's 666 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: a record, and in sixteen games. O J. Simpson still 667 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: should be the single season rushing leader, because I think 668 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: he was in twelve games, he averaged one hundred forty 669 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: three yards per game. But you start to look at 670 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: t J. Watt with the number of sacks, well, it's 671 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: sixteen games, and if Cooper Cup breaks the record, it's 672 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: seventeen games. But we're picking and choosing the records in 673 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: the number of games that are played. So Nagi Harris 674 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: Okay's he broke Franco Harris's record. I guess you got 675 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: to look at yards per game if you want to. 676 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: But I just don't know if anybody cares about stats 677 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL anymore from the standpoint of oh, that's historical, right, 678 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: And it feels like we're too lazy to nitpick here. 679 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: If I look at Reggie White and sacks per game, like, 680 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: to me, Reggie White is, you know, the greatest defensive 681 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: linemen of all time. Nineteen eighty seven strikes shortened season, 682 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: and you know Reggie was dominating. What he had twenty 683 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: one sacks in twelve games. So if I'm looking at that, 684 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: he would he would have been on pace for twenty 685 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: eight sacks in a season. Obviously, that would chatter the record. 686 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: Michael Strahan has the record now, But t J. Watt 687 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: is t J. Watt who missed two games. So do 688 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: I factor in the that he missed two games here? 689 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: Or when somebody throws for fifty five touchdowns, okay, and 690 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: then somebody breaks that record, well if they do it 691 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: in eighteen then that means more. Or you're running records 692 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: and what it means in sixteen games or seventeen games. 693 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup acknowledged this. He was asked about it yesterday. 694 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: What the guys did that set those records? You know, 695 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas, Randy Moss for the touchdowns, what Calvin Johnson 696 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: did with yards, For what those guys did in sixteen games. 697 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: You know, it wouldn't seem right to I don't know, 698 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: for those to be broken in seventeen games. It just doesn't. 699 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: It wouldn't hold the same weight to me as it 700 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: does for guys that have done that in a sixteen 701 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: game season. All right. I mean, that's a humble way 702 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: to talk about those who did it before you and 703 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: what he's doing right now. But it's now all of 704 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 1: a sudden with the seventeenth game, we got a real problem. 705 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: We went from fourteen twelve to fourteen fourteen to sixteen, 706 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: and then we go sixteen to seventeen. We seem to 707 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: have a little bit more of a problem from sixteen 708 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: to seventeen. It's like, you know, twelve to fourteen, fourteen 709 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: to sixteen, sixteen to seventy. Well, I'll do it in 710 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: seventeen games. Then we're gonna do eighteen games. That's coming 711 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: up too here in the not too distant future. 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The Washington Football Team will unveil its 719 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: new name and identity on February second, and this will 720 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: be on USA Today, So two to twenty two, the 721 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: Washington Football is at the Today Show, POULI yeah, okay, 722 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna announce it on Today's show. Okay, 723 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: do you see that says they're gonna unveil their new 724 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: name and identity. So I thought they've always had an 725 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: identity as a crappy football team. Yeah, they just started 726 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: identifying as a quality club. Yeah, hey, we're going to 727 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: reidentify as a decent football team. Here. I have the 728 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: odds from August when the name was in flux. Okay, 729 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: Red Wolves was the favorite. The betting odds football team 730 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: was in play because they were going to keep it Commanders, 731 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,879 Speaker 1: Red Hogs, Defenders, Armada Brigade, Presidents. Those are just that's 732 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: based off no real research. It's just kind of like 733 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: a fan votes and things like that. I think I 734 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: was pulling for Armada for some reason. I don't know why. 735 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: At the time, I go, I like Armada, I don't 736 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: like Presidents. That's a terrible idea. Yeah You'remata Armada where 737 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: everyone's Bata. Yeah. Um. I would have stayed with Washington 738 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: football too. Yeah, I just it's it's unique, Yestohn. Do 739 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,839 Speaker 1: you go Washington Hodas, Washington Rookers? Maybe the little connection there? 740 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: Why the Today Show of all places? M Okay, I 741 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: go Washington Hodas. I would love no Peacocks. Yeah, there 742 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: you go, the Peacocks, Washington Peacocks. I would have stayed 743 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: with Washington football team too. Yeah. I like to imagine 744 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: if that was the announcement this big Granted we're keeping 745 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: the name Washington football team. Reggie White average average one 746 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: point seven five sacks in twelve games in nineteen eighty seven. 747 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: That's the best ratio ever. T J. Watt one point 748 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: five four sacks per game. That's so far fourteen games. 749 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: Sean Merriman. Sean Merriman had seventeen sacks for the Chargers 750 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: in twelve games in two thousand and six. Michael Strahan 751 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: at twenty two and a half sacks in sixteen games. 752 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: Justin Houston had twenty two sacks. Remember that Houston in 753 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Jared Allen had twenty two sacks. Mark Gastineau 754 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: had twenty two sacks. That was back in nineteen eighty four. 755 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: But t J. Watt probably going to be your defensive 756 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: player of the year. Yeah, see does that? So you're 757 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: talking about like Reggie White averaged one and a half 758 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 1: sacks over twelve games, right, Reggie White average one point 759 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: seven five Okay, one point seven five over twelve games. 760 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: But if you're able to do that now over seventeen games, 761 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: say you get up to one and a half, isn't 762 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: that more impressive than what Reggie White did well. He 763 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: had twenty one sacks in twelve games, which is very impressive. 764 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: That's really impressive. But the average that you're talking about 765 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: one point seven five. To sustain that over a longer 766 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: period of time would be more difficult for a defender. Yeah, 767 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: but T J. Watt has only done it. So he's 768 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: one point five four for fourteen games. Yeah, that's harder 769 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: to do, but it's only but it's still not even 770 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: close to what Reggie did in two less games at 771 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: one point seven five. I'm not a math guy, definitely. 772 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm not either, and Paulie is not either. No, I 773 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: have no math, but I have a Okay. In the eighties, 774 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks dropped back about four hundred and fifty times a 775 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 1: game a high end quarterback, I sees it. I'm sorry, 776 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: four and fifty times. Yeah, so Reggie White had fewer 777 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 1: opportunities to sack the quarterback that said. There's an article 778 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: I saw a few months ago. Quarterbacks now get the 779 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: ball off much faster. So even though Matthew Stafford is 780 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: dropping back six hundred and fifty times, he gets the 781 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 1: ball away so much faster than other guys did in 782 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: the eighties. So it's harder to get a sack now, 783 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: so it works both ways. It could be both harder 784 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: and easier. That solved nothing. Yeah, did I sound show? 785 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: It sounded like I knew what I was talking about, 786 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 1: which is important. That is our motto. We solve nothing 787 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: nothing greeny Yeah, thank you man. Aaron Rodgers who was 788 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: on with the Mannings last night, and he was if 789 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: you didn't hear Carson Palmer yesterday on this show, I 790 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: thought he summed up the reason why Aaron Rodgers wants 791 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 1: to play against the Lions. He wants to win the MVP. 792 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: And you put up some numbers here against the Lions, 793 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: pick up the win. He's gonna win the And now 794 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: maybe he's already got the MVP. But Carson said the 795 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: reason why he thinks he's playing is also yep, to 796 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: factor in what Aaron brought up last night. Back in 797 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: twenty eleven, you know, he sat out a game and 798 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: that's when Matt Flynn came in. Flynn through for like 799 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: five hundred yards six touchdowns against the Lions, got the 800 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: contract with the Seattle Seahawks and then they went in 801 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 1: first into the playoffs. They lost to the Giants. Rogers, 802 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: I think wants to make sure that he's ready to 803 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: go now, not Mutton. Not too much time off, all right, 804 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 1: one hour in the books, two more to go. We'll 805 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: check in on the Buccaneers right after this Dan Patrick 806 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: Show