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Speaker 1: This is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and GOLDNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly here in beautiful Mobile, Alabama at

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Speaker 3: the I'm currently at Hancock Whitney Stadium here on the

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Speaker 3: campus of the University of South Alabama. Matt Williamson back

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: We'll be bringing you the show.

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Speaker 3: Actually, we're taping the show here during the morning practice

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Speaker 3: for the national team here. They were on the field

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Speaker 3: now they'll be here from nine to thirty until eleven thirty.

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Speaker 3: We'll be bringing you the show during the national team practice.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of good stuff to get to here,

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Speaker 3: hearing things talking to people down here, talking to some

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Speaker 3: national scouts and things of that nature about some of

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Speaker 3: these players and learning more about them. For example, you know,

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Speaker 3: Matt and I talked yesterday about Taylor Elgersma, the Laurier

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Speaker 3: quarterback from not the lawyer quarterback, the lawyer quarterback from Canada.

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Speaker 3: I found out some info on him. But how you doing, Matt.

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Speaker 4: I'm great.

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Speaker 5: I wish I was there, can't do it because of

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Speaker 5: some family stuff, but I will be also not on

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Speaker 5: the drive tomorrow, just you know, kind of get that

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Speaker 5: stuff out of the way. And I'm glad you mentioned

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Speaker 5: that the national practice is about to start, so that

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Speaker 5: will be the very first football activity of Senior Bowl week.

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Speaker 4: So absolutely to be right there next to it, right yea, yep.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm right here right around the fifty yard on

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Speaker 3: here on the observation deck overlooking the field here.

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Speaker 2: Lots of media types here, I see all this. The

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Speaker 2: scouts are.

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Speaker 3: And coaches are all across the way over at the

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Speaker 3: press box there. I might wander over there a little

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Speaker 3: later and see, you know who I can talk to

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Speaker 3: over there.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's uh, it's an interesting one here.

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Speaker 3: So this this practice this morning, some guys that might

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Speaker 3: be of interest, uh for guys that we looked to

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Speaker 3: mentioned elgersma from a Laurier College.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know where Lawyer College is. That's that's

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Speaker 4: We might have to refreshment.

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Speaker 5: If people didn't listen yesterday, they're like, what the heck

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Speaker 5: are you talking about with Laurier? Who is this dude?

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's the Canadian guy we talked about yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: they were interested.

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Speaker 3: Basically brought him into replace Howard when he backed out

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Speaker 3: from Ohio State. You know, you gotta have some you

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Speaker 3: gotta have three quarterbacks, you can't have two. So they

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Speaker 3: bring this guy in and he he's from a Canadian

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Speaker 3: college and uh said, all kinds of records up there

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Speaker 3: was basically their Heisman Trophy winner uh in Canada essentially

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Speaker 3: you know, won all the major awards.

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Speaker 2: Big guy, he's.

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Speaker 3: Like six what I say, six six, uh yeah, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and twelve pounds, and he looks the part. He's

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Speaker 3: he's tall and rangy got very leggy.

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Speaker 2: That's the first about him. Very leggy.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So the scouts that I was talking to about him

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Speaker 3: in Canada for the Senior Bowl actually to kind of

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Speaker 3: give him, you know, the opportunity to come here. Because

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Speaker 3: they scout, they do a great job of scouting all

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Speaker 4: Really gotten strong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and because they want to they want to

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Speaker 3: get the best talent here and find these guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: And so I asked him myself, well, so what's your

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Speaker 2: what's your report on this kid?

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Speaker 3: He said, he's a you know, he's he's he's he'll

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Speaker 3: make some really tight window throws that'll make you go wow,

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Speaker 3: that was that was really uh, you know, a big

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Speaker 3: time throw, you know, he said, but you do have

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Speaker 3: to question some of the you know, the guys he

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, so kind of like when Willis was there

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Speaker 5: or the other a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, or the kid that Tyson Badgett.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember he was here a couple of years

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Speaker 5: Okay in the NFL, he's stuck. He's going to be

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Speaker 5: a two for number two forever. Yeah right, that's not bad, right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: So no one knew who he was when he showed

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Speaker 5: up the Singer Bowl, you know.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he was just a guy that I think

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Speaker 3: he had been the Shrine Game and done well there,

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Speaker 3: Star games and done well there, and they brought him here. Well,

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Speaker 3: this is you know, a situation where they just brought

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Speaker 3: must have been in the next guy up, you know,

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Speaker 3: but he said he's a.

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Speaker 5: Doable watch list, you know, like a lot of these

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Speaker 5: guys that are in the original rosters do not participate.

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Speaker 5: And I was just thinking of this yesterday. I sent

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Speaker 5: out and you probably already had it, but yeah, I'm thinking, man,

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Speaker 5: the playoff system is bad for the Senior Bowl that way.

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Speaker 5: You know, a lot of these guys play deeper into

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Speaker 5: the year, so you know, the the Nixon bruises, you

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Speaker 5: don't want to go to the Senior Bowl, you know,

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Speaker 5: obviously the Ohio State quarterbacks the perfect example. But then

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Speaker 5: opens the door for next guy. So they have these

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Speaker 5: long watch lists, you know, the break break glass in

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Speaker 5: case of emergency, and they might call guys up from

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Speaker 5: the Shine Game even you know tomorrow. I mean, they're

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Speaker 5: not done adding to the roster. It happens all week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and for those guys, I mean, the more eyes

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Speaker 3: be seen, the better. Yeah, you know, especially if you're

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Speaker 3: one percent, you know, you're just trying to find a spot.

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Speaker 2: So it's a big it's a big week for a

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Speaker 2: lot of these guys.

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Speaker 5: A lot of shuffling though, and Jim Nagy's in charge

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Speaker 5: of it, does a tremendous job. Has a really good

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Speaker 5: group of scouts now that really you know, scour the globe.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure you remember this, but remember last year

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Speaker 5: the defensive tackle from Florida State that the Rams drafted, Fisk,

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Speaker 5: practiced all week with either the North of the South

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Speaker 5: ad tackle short. You mind flipping teams. He's like, and

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Speaker 5: I heard the story today. He's like, is it the

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Speaker 5: same scheme. They're like, yeah, exact same scheme. He's like,

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Speaker 5: guys all day in practice. Anyways, Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: They should do that. They should just randomly do that.

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Speaker 4: Have switched.

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Speaker 2: Five guys, five guys from each roster, gonna switch sides

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Speaker 2: at the you.

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Speaker 5: Know, you'll know what jersey you're gonna get. Just go

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Speaker 5: to your locker that morning. You don't know what you're

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Speaker 5: either red or you're you know, blue.

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Speaker 3: I might mention that to to some people down here

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Speaker 3: and see if like just just spice up the game

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Speaker 3: a little bit, just five five guys just roll the

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Speaker 3: you know, random name drawing and you know.

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Speaker 4: Probably not quarterbacks, but anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, these these these.

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Speaker 3: Uh well he'd be five on each ruster. So these

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Speaker 3: ten guys are going to switch sides.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, dude at halftime. Oh that would be even all

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Speaker 5: kinds of just despice live in the game up at

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Speaker 5: a little bit. Uh, but yeah, Elger is going to

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Speaker 2: Again, he's he stands.

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Speaker 3: Out at uh six sixth plus really uh big, the

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Speaker 3: leggie I'm typing, I'm trying to think of who he

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Speaker 2: Uh, he's got the high hips.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I imagine once he when he cuts

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Speaker 3: be interested to see, you know, when he cuts it loose.

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Speaker 3: You know, I imagine he's a long strider given.

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Speaker 5: That worries me his leg length. I don't like the

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Speaker 5: term leggie for quarterbacks. I mean, I want more of

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Speaker 5: a compact build, don't have to take a big step

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Speaker 5: lot of those guys don't have great balance, you know.

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Speaker 5: I know Mahomes is a little on the short side.

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Speaker 5: He's got such a low center of gravity. Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 5: you know, those guys have the quick feet and are

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Speaker 5: lot of room to operate. So yeah, I'll be definitely

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Speaker 5: watching that, you know.

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Speaker 4: With this.

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Speaker 3: The other the other quarterbacks on the on the national roster,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Schoff, we talked about him yesterday out of Louisville,

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Speaker 3: another big, you know quarterback, he's like six ' five

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Speaker 5: But boy, he's played a lot of football though, you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you can get over the height stuff,

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Speaker 5: maybe he has a Knicks or Pennix like rookie Year,

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Speaker 5: you know, more knicks because he's so ready. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's not gonna go in the first round like those guys.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, you're getting, and I think that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that height stuff has really kind of changed really,

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Speaker 3: you know, Michael Vick and Russell Wilson kind of changed

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Speaker 3: the the G three of that, you know, even going

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Speaker 3: back to Doug Doug Flutie. But really it was it

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Speaker 3: was you know, Vic and and Wilson that kind of

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Speaker 3: carved a path for those for the shorter quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a I mean, Wilson was a third rounder,

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Speaker 5: Vic was first overall, but Wilson in particular, you know,

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Speaker 5: Bryce Young should send him a Christmas card every year,

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Speaker 5: you know, because if it wasn't for a couple of

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Speaker 5: those guys, namely Wilson, there's no way Bryce Young goes

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Speaker 5: first overall.

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Speaker 2: Well, the same thing you know with Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Kyle, you know he went first, to Kyler

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Speaker 3: Murray went first overall. He was he's what five ten

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Speaker 3: five eleven mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's a better athlete too than you you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean it's it's just that that stigma.

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Speaker 3: Of the shorter quarterback is really it's it's not quite

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Speaker 3: what it used to be. I mean, it used to

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Speaker 3: the field and all that stuff. And now because everybody

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Speaker 3: wants the runners, well, most of those six five guys

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Speaker 3: aren't really good runners or you know, aren't not the

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Speaker 2: That's why you know, Ben Roethlisberger was.

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Speaker 3: Josh cam Newton, right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know, I mean everybody does now, you know.

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Speaker 5: And then there's a really good chance somebody's gonna get it,

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Speaker 4: That's just how it goes.

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Speaker 5: And I was watching me Kai and does first draft,

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Speaker 4: So even if you know the Steelers don't draft too, which.

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Speaker 5: thirty five agent, Yeah, thirty four five aren't getting drafted.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, But let's get to a break, Matt, before

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Speaker 3: everything really starts.

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Speaker 2: Kick off.

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Speaker 3: The teams on the field kind of getting going through

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Speaker 3: But he is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 3: to go through the roster here for this national team

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Speaker 5: Yeah, been big, physical guy that really needs to show

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Speaker 3: We also have on that mentioned Rastreppo. He is a

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Speaker 3: You got Harold Fannon is in this group, Elijah Rojo

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Speaker 4: This will be a key for those guys.

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Speaker 5: to one or are above, it was always receiver, you know.

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Speaker 5: And now some of these guys are like I can

440
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Speaker 5: be an outlier at six ' two and maybe have

441
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Speaker 5: some receiver ball skills and be a higher pick when

442
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Speaker 5: in my time comes, you know.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean teams need these guys to cover

444
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: the the condors out there playing wide receiver in the league.

445
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Speaker 3: Here at the linebacker position, Uh, we're not going to

446
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Speaker 3: deal with that too much.

447
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Speaker 2: I don't know that the Steelers.

448
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Speaker 3: Are going to be taking any linebackers or safeties necessarily

449
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Speaker 3: unless it's a you know, as you're looking for late

450
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Speaker 3: round Nickels safety. Interior defensive lineman, you got Darius Alexander

451
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Speaker 3: from Toledo and Nias Peebles from Virginia Tech, Jaha Black

452
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Speaker 3: from Iowa. I mean, they got some big or good

453
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Speaker 3: interior defensive lineman on this group here. Moving on onto

454
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Speaker 3: the other side, here the edge guys, Ty Robinson from

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Speaker 3: Nebraska's on on the north you got Mike Green from Marshall,

456
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Speaker 3: Donovan Azeriku from Boston College. They get some pass rushers

457
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Speaker 3: on this on this landon Jackson National Defense, I mean,

458
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Speaker 3: the offensive defensive line drills are gonna be a lot

459
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Speaker 3: of fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, They're gonna be highly scrutinized, really good competition to me.

461
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Speaker 5: That's the highlight of Senior Bowl anyway, even more so

462
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Speaker 5: than one on ones with the receivers and corners. But

463
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Speaker 5: that's definitely with this group gonna be you know, must

464
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Speaker 5: watch TV. There's a lot of I mean all future

465
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Speaker 5: NFL players, but there's a lot of high picks who

466
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Speaker 5: are going to be involved.

467
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Speaker 4: We talked about the old line too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot that the one safety is here that

469
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Speaker 3: might be of interest to the Steeler. Sebastian Castro out

470
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Speaker 3: of Iowa is a guy to keep an eye. He is, uh,

471
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Speaker 3: play some play, some nickel and does some of those things.

472
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Speaker 3: I don't I'm not seeing a size on him necessarily.

473
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Speaker 3: I think he's he's like I can't remember now exactly

474
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Speaker 3: what the size on him is, and I don't see

475
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Speaker 3: him here on the on the measure chart, but I

476
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Speaker 3: think he is.

477
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Speaker 4: Measure charts are hard to keep up.

478
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Speaker 3: Just under just under six foot in about two hundred

479
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Speaker 3: and ten pounds.

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Speaker 2: But he also plays the slot.

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Speaker 4: Do you say Castro?

482
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he is five eleven two oh two with big

483
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Speaker 5: ten and chans and good wingspan, eleven in charms.

484
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Speaker 3: And again, yeah, was there nickel for Iowa. So that's

485
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Speaker 3: another guy to keep an eye on here. But lots

486
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Speaker 3: of lots of talented guys here, a lot of talent

487
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Speaker 3: on the football field, and looking forward to seeing this

488
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Speaker 3: group work and then of course the the American roster

489
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Speaker 3: will come in and work in the afternoon. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: more about that American roster when we come back. He

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 3: to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. I

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Speaker 3: am live here in Well. I guess we're taping this

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Speaker 3: on I'm live right now.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I hope I'm still alive.

496
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Speaker 3: Uh here in Mobile, Alabama at Hancock Whitney Stadium. Matt

497
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Speaker 3: back in Pittsburgh, and of course you can follow my

498
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Speaker 3: coverage from down here on Steelers dot Com. I'll be

499
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Speaker 3: talking to some of these prospects when practice ends and

500
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Speaker 3: and doing some write ups and some guys who interest me.

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Speaker 2: Over the course of practice. We'll see what Mike Tomlin h.

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Speaker 3: He always likes to get down on the field and

503
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Speaker 3: and uh get you know, get a look at these

504
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Speaker 3: guys on the hoof, as it were, and see who

505
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Speaker 3: who has good practice skills who doesn't. I was talking

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Speaker 3: with somebody last night Matt just as a quick aside here. Hm,

507
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Speaker 3: they think Mike Tomlin might be the only head coach

508
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Speaker 3: who's actually.

509
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Speaker 2: Here this year.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that surprises me.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they do think they're thinking it?

512
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Mike Rabel comes, because Rabel would always come

513
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Speaker 3: when he was with the Titans. Yeah, we'll see. Uh,

514
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Speaker 3: we'll see if he shows up. But uh yeah, Tomlin, Uh,

515
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Speaker 3: you know one of the guys who is here every year.

516
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Speaker 3: He is very active on the field and one of

517
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Speaker 3: the few coaches who still comes. There's there's there's teams

518
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Speaker 3: now that don't even send their coaches to to this,

519
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Speaker 3: to the combine anymore. Like I don't that I don't

520
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Speaker 3: understand it.

521
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Speaker 2: I don't understand either.

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Speaker 4: I mean, of course they video everything and you know,

523
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Speaker 4: zoom and blah blah blah. But there's something he said

524
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Speaker 4: for being there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you want to don't you want to interact

526
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Speaker 3: with these guys a little bit?

527
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Speaker 2: Actually? I think I.

528
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Speaker 5: Think I want to go to the Lamb night And okay,

529
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Speaker 5: I mean I just want to be there even if

530
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Speaker 5: I I was a coach and you have to divulge

531
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Speaker 5: your secrets, but see your buddies and talk a little

532
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Speaker 5: bit about players.

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Speaker 4: You're not even interested. I mean, there's a lot to

534
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Speaker 4: gain from that.

535
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

536
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Speaker 3: Tom's down on the field now chatting with some other guys.

537
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Speaker 3: He's with Arthur Smith right now, so they're talking to

538
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Speaker 3: the one of the officials and one of the other

539
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Speaker 3: scouts is down here. So yeah, so Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 3: Arthur Smith here, we'll see where they I know Omar

541
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Speaker 3: Con is here as well. But anyways, let's get to

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Speaker 3: a break. He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're

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Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Networks.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. I am here at Hancock

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Speaker 3: Whitney Stadium here just to pull back the curtain the

551
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Speaker 3: morning here in Mobile, Alabama. It's not even ten o'clock

552
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Speaker 3: here yet, but the national team on the field, the

553
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Speaker 3: American team will come in and they'll practice this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Right around noon, they'll come in and they'll be done

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Speaker 3: by two o'clock our time here, because we're an hour

556
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Speaker 3: ahead here in the South or in the Central time.

557
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Speaker 3: But Matt, just looking here real quickly at that American

558
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Speaker 3: roster again, Jackson Dart, Jaylen Milroe, and Riley Leonard.

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Speaker 2: The three of the four quarterbacks are you also have.

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Speaker 3: Seth Hennigan from Memphis, And I gotta be honest, I

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Speaker 3: don't know much about Seth hen Hennigan at this point,

562
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Speaker 3: but that Memphis program has produced some pretty good players

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Speaker 3: over the last few years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on the official Senior Bowl site and he

565
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Speaker 5: is not even on the roster yet for them, So

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Speaker 5: maybe he's a real late edition.

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Speaker 4: Maybe doundate that.

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Speaker 5: But man, I mean, Leonard doesn't really interest me from

569
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Speaker 5: the Steelers perspective, but Milroe and Dart are really gonna be,

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Speaker 5: you know, all eyes on. I mean, this group of

571
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Speaker 5: quarterbacks is one of the most to gain.

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Speaker 4: Here, you know, or to prove. Yeah, absolutely talked about

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Speaker 4: him a lot last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: You could you could see Darton mill Roe and Dart

575
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Speaker 3: Milroe at Howard, you know, and and then Gabriel were

576
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Speaker 3: all kind of fighting in that group to see who's

577
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Speaker 3: going to be the third quarterback taken.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but Howard isn't working out, you know,

579
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Speaker 5: and these two are going to be right next to

580
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Speaker 5: each other throw, which is great.

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Speaker 3: He did enough during the playoffs, uh you know series

582
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Speaker 3: to kind of improve his stock in so, I mean,

583
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Speaker 3: he really played well in.

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Speaker 2: The playoffs for Ohio State.

585
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Speaker 3: Looking at the running backs, you've got Devin Neil out

586
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Speaker 3: of Kansas, You've got r. J.

587
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Speaker 2: Harvey at a U c F.

588
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Speaker 3: You've got Jark West Hunter out of Auburn, Marcus Yarns

589
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Speaker 3: out of Delaware. Have you seen anything on him yet?

590
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Speaker 3: Because he is supposed to be an outstanding athlete. If

591
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Speaker 3: you're you're coming to a game like this had Delaware, yeah,

592
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: you better have some do something special. And from what

593
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Speaker 3: I've read and seen about him, he does that.

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Speaker 2: He's got some.

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Speaker 4: That's what I've heard too. I just read a small

596
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Speaker 4: paragraph on him the other day.

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Speaker 5: Is he was kind of a sleeper, you know, not

598
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Speaker 5: a lot of name people knew him from Delaware. Of course,

599
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Speaker 5: he was a big fish in a little pond there,

600
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Speaker 5: but really explosive. As you mentioned, people expect him to

601
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Speaker 5: be a phenomenal tester. I would think this environment is

602
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Speaker 5: good for him home run hitter, you know, so interesting player.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, another guy that maybe you take a flyer on

604
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Speaker 3: late in the draft, or you know, you bring him

605
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Speaker 3: in as a priority free agent and next thing you know,

606
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Speaker 3: he's your kick returner or something in your third down back.

607
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: You have some packages for him in that regard. The

608
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Speaker 3: wide receivers of this group, Jack Beck at a TCU,

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Speaker 3: Ty Felton out of Maryland, Bruce McCoy out of Tennessee,

610
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Speaker 3: and Jalen Royals at a Utah State. This is a

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Speaker 3: big week for Jaylor Royals because he was limited because

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Speaker 3: of injuries this year. He had a ton of catches

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Speaker 3: yes last year and it was really i mean just

614
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Speaker 3: extremely extremely prolific.

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Speaker 2: At Utah eight.

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Speaker 3: But is a bigger receiver and is a guy that

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Speaker 3: you know has some has some pedigree there. He just

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Speaker 3: missed some time this year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's another one that I think has a

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Speaker 5: chance to go higher than people might think at this point.

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Speaker 5: It wouldn't shock me that if he has a good week.

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Speaker 5: You know, we do our mocks that you know, Steelers

623
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Speaker 5: second round could be Royals. You know, in consideration at

624
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Speaker 5: least that he can get downfield. He's got size, I

625
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Speaker 5: was a track athlete too. I mean I think he

626
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Speaker 5: was like, I.

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Speaker 4: Think you're pretty accomplished.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so I think he had like a over

629
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Speaker 3: a six foot there's maybe a six foot two high

630
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Speaker 3: jump and also know ran sprints and things of that nature.

631
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Speaker 3: So the speed is there, the athletic ability is there,

632
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Speaker 3: and he can he catches the ball well. So you

633
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Speaker 3: just keep an eye on the Jalen Roys. He'll be

634
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Speaker 3: number seventeen on that American roster. On the offensive line.

635
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Speaker 3: You get some guys there, Miles Fraser out of LSU,

636
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Speaker 3: Jonas Sayavania out of Arizona, Carson Vincent from Alabama, and

637
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Speaker 3: m and armand Membu some guys there out of Missouri

638
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Speaker 3: that I want to keep an eye on out of

639
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: that group.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Emery Jones is someone I'm paying attention to

641
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Speaker 5: because it seems he was getting first round buzz before

642
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 5: the season LSU tackle and he's a little shorter, maybe

643
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Speaker 5: he's a guard, but I'm looking at him maybe as

644
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 5: a fourth rounder for the Steelers and he plays four

645
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 5: different positions for you something like that. Yeah, he does

646
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 5: have good pedigree. Who knows, this isn't a bad group either,

647
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Speaker 5: but a lot of these guys seem like they're Are

648
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Speaker 5: they tackles?

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Speaker 4: Are they guard?

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Speaker 5: You know, the big dude from Arizona is probably a guard,

651
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Speaker 5: even though he was a tackle in college.

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Speaker 4: You know, what's membo gonna be? I mean it.

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Speaker 5: I think the other O line group's a little better

654
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Speaker 5: than this one, but this is an interesting group as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they get the three L s U offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: on that American offenser, so that might, you know, in

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Speaker 3: terms of game stuff, might play in their favor because

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Speaker 3: you know, you put those three guys together on the field,

659
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: they don't you know, they've they've played a lot of

660
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: football together, so it might give them a little bit

661
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: of an edge, particularly against that really good defensive front

662
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: from the national team. At the cornerback positions. Some interesting

663
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: guys there as well. Trey Amos, who you know, potential

664
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: first rounder out of Ole Miss. You got Maxwell Harriston

665
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: out of Kentucky. Another guy who is considered a potential

666
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: it could be a first rounder, right Yeah, Jacob Parrish

667
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: out of k State, Upton Stout from Western Western Kentucky. Uh,

668
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: there's some there's some dudes on that group as well

669
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: that can help their stock this week.

670
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: Oh, quite a bit, quite a bit.

671
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 5: I mean Stout is a guy that people were real

672
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 5: excited to see. Small school dude from western Kentucky. Probably

673
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 5: a true slot, but they talk about him being as

674
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 5: just a real bulldog, a real feisty Mike Hilton type,

675
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

676
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 4: Could use that guy.

677
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: Gott Absolutely, we'll.

678
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: Come and play the run and all that kind of stuff.

679
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.

680
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: Looking at the uh, the interior defensive line from that group,

681
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 3: they got a good group here, Dion Walker, Walter Nolan, Uh,

682
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 3: you got Omar Norman, Lott, t J. Sanders, I mean,

683
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: holy mackerel. Uh. I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't want to. Yeah,

684
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 3: there's a lot of talent with Tim Smith from Alabama,

685
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: I mean, just Cameron Jackson from Florida. I mean, they

686
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: got some dudes on that on that side of the

687
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: ball here for the American defense big time.

688
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 5: And I'm sure Shamar Stewart's listed as an edge, but

689
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 5: will he line up inside as well? I mean he's

690
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 5: got size. I mean, their defensive front is really interesting.

691
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: I'm hoping Walker can keep his pads down and be

692
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: the middle of the field for so the guy out

693
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 5: of Kentucky I mean his height worries me a little bit.

694
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: I wish you would have wait In at six '

695
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: six and change as opposed almost six eight. But there's

696
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 4: a lot of good players in that group.

697
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned those edge guys.

698
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: I mean they got Princely Yunemeln the guy Prince you

699
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: at a ole Miss I Prince you, Kyle Canard out

700
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: of South Carolina, Schamar Stewart, who you mentioned, Jared Ivy

701
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: ed of ole Miss, sive On Jones out of LSU.

702
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: I mean, they got some dudes. It's going to be

703
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: a really, really good group.

704
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: Prince you might be the guy that steals the show

705
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: when it's all said and done, and I bet weigh

706
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 5: ins and walking out on the field, he's going to

707
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 5: be the guy that your eye goes to immediately, like

708
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: just looks the part first guy off the bus type.

709
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

710
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they get some you know, really talented rosters here.

711
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 3: And again they've they've done a great job of getting

712
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: some of the he's the best time. They don't have

713
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: you know, the top ten type picks here at this thing,

714
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: but they've got some guys that you know from guys

715
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: from picks twenty or I should say ten to fifteen

716
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: down through eighty. I'll bet you there is there's probably

717
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 3: forty of those guys here somewhere in that range.

718
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah.

719
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 5: I mean again, some of those need to decipher themselves,

720
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 5: but some of the receivers we mentioned, or a lot

721
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 5: of Day two picks.

722
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 4: I mean, there's probably I.

723
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: Don't know how many the running backs will go that early,

724
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 5: I mean at that position, but there's definitely a couple

725
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 5: of quarterbacks, a lot of linemen. Yeah, I can probably

726
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 5: get the close to that number.

727
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

728
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: I was talking with somebody here last night, and I

729
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: had one of their Senior Bowl scouts, and I said,

730
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: you guys had one hundred and five guys drafted out

731
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: of the Senior Bowl last year.

732
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 2: What's your expectation this year is somewhere? He said.

733
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: Probably not quite that number, he said, but I'll bet

734
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: you it's somewhere, you know, north of nine five guys

735
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: drafted in this game.

736
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 2: I mean, so that's what kind of talent you're looking

737
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: at here.

738
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are kickers and punters and long snappers.

739
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: Long snappers those guys don't get drafted, so you know

740
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: you're not.

741
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: Gonna get drafted. Yeah, that screws it. Up.

742
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know again' if there's thirty five running

743
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 5: backs that are have draftable grades, maybe one or two

744
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: of these guys don't. Maybe there's an injury that pops

745
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 5: up at the combine. Unfortunately, well, it definitely will be.

746
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: You know, one of these guys will look good here

747
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 5: and go to the combine. They're gonna say, you know,

748
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 5: you have a bad kneed. No, I didn't know that.

749
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: You know.

750
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 4: Unfortunately that that stuff happens too.

751
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully it's not something worse than that. We've seen some

752
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: of that right right right as well. But yeah, I'm

753
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: the bad news in Indy. Yeah, you don't want that.

754
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: And then that's when you start seeing those guys pop

755
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: up on it. He's visiting everybody, well, yeah he hit something.

756
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: Maybe it doesn't get disclosed necessarily that he had a

757
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 3: something wrong with him, but they find it there. And

758
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: then the next thing you know, he's visiting fifteen different

759
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: teams right before the draft because they all want to

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: get their updates on it.

761
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and some of them are, well, you would fail

762
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: a physical now at Indy, but by the time the

763
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: draft rules around, you might be okay. And you know,

764
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 5: so these are always ever changing.

765
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the reasons why Darnell Washington,

766
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: for example.

767
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, good Cook fell off.

768
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: You know, he fell to the fourth round because some

769
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 2: teams weren't sure about his knees. And it's not been

770
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: a problem.

771
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 5: Not been a problem at all. And I mean that

772
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 5: was a historic tight end draft as well, so a

773
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 5: lot of ties didn't break in his favor because of Durbelly. Yeah.

774
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean if you have him equal or even just

775
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 3: slightly ahead of somebody else, but then you look, well,

776
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: our doctors are saying that that knee is going to

777
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 3: be an issue, well then you don't work. Trey Smith's

778
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: another one. You know, Tray Smith is a Pro Bowl

779
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 3: player for the for the Eagles or for the i

780
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: should say the Chiefs, and he fell to the sixth

781
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: round because he had the heart issue. Oh, by the way,

782
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: he just pulled out of the obviously pulled out of

783
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl. And so Isaac sam Mong now going

784
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 3: to the Pro Bowl games this year.

785
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 4: Oh, really good.

786
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: So Steelers get another guy in the Pro Bowl games

787
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: from that. If you listen to some people completely devoid

788
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: of talent roster.

789
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: And Trey Smith's obviously been a huge success story.

790
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: I mean, he's about to get paid a lot of

791
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 5: money on the open market.

792
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 3: Yes, And you know, I think at this point, because

793
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: he's four years into his career, you know, those those

794
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: questions that you had about is you know, is he

795
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: going to have a long career? Is that this heart

796
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: going to be an issue? It turns out to not

797
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: be the case. I mean, he's four years into the

798
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: into the league and he's played a lot of snaps

799
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: and played at the high level. You don't necessarily look

800
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: at that as a situation anymore.

801
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: I would assume not.

802
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: I mean, and it's not like a knee that man,

803
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 5: this guy's taken every Wednesday off. You got to barely

804
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 5: get him the game day. He's going to fight this

805
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 5: knee the rest of his life. Maybe the hard issue

806
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: corrected itself, or there's medication for it.

807
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, who knows.

808
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: But he's been playing really well and it's not like

809
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 5: they have to pull him out of games or have

810
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: heard and it's ever been an issue since he's given

811
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 5: the league.

812
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but let's get to another break, Matt.

813
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: That's going to do it for our number one of

814
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. I am

815
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: live here at Hancock Whitney Stadium in beautiful Mobile, Alabama.

816
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: The sun is shining. There's a few clouds in the skies,

817
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 2: but the sun is shining.

818
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 3: Usually I end up coming down here Matt every year

819
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: and getting sunburned, but only on half of my face

820
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 3: because I'm I look like two face, because the left

821
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: side of my face, because that's where the I'm looking

822
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: at the field from and the sun's on the left

823
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: side of my face. I always end up getting sunburned

824
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 3: on the left side and not on the right, And

825
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: I look silly, I look silly, hartless. But that I mean,

826
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: that looks really silly when I get sunburned on one

827
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: side of my face.

828
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: But you makee me move around a little bit more.

829
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, there's there's not much you can do

830
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: about that.

831
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you're I mean, I can go over to

832
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: the other side. I actually I can't go over to

833
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 3: the other side, you know, on the on the sky

834
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: outside of things here. But then I would just be

835
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: evening out my my sunburn, I guess. And is it

836
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 3: worth is it worth walking all around the field to

837
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: go do that?

838
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

839
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm in the shade so I got a

840
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: nice shaded spot here, so it's not that bad.

841
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: But that's gonna do it.

842
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 5: You look funny when you come I hope you look

843
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 5: funny when you come back.

844
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: That's what.

845
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 3: Funny er, funny er, that's right right anyways, that's gonna

846
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 3: do it for our number one, Matt, and now I

847
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 3: will be back with our number two of the drive

848
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: right after this