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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one and today

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Speaker 1: we're back for another RUT Radio episode in which we're

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Speaker 1: getting real time updates from hunters across the country on

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Speaker 1: current deer and running activity and the tactics that are

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Speaker 1: working right now. And for the second week in a row,

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Speaker 1: we've got Don Higgins with us to talk about how

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Speaker 1: he's killed his second buck in the last week. That's

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Speaker 1: right around the two. All right, Welcome to the Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sitka Gear and uh,

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Speaker 1: here we are again another RUT Radio episode in which

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Speaker 1: we talk to hunters all across the country about what

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Speaker 1: happening right now. You know, what kind of deer activity,

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Speaker 1: what kind of rutting activity, what kind of conditions are

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Speaker 1: out there, and how are all these things impacting how

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Speaker 1: we should be hunting. Um, that's what we do each

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Speaker 1: week during RUT Radio. That's what we're gonna do today.

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Speaker 1: And we're getting out to the point where the RUT

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Speaker 1: Radio deal that the title makes a little more sense

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Speaker 1: because we're getting right into that time period, aren't we, Spenser, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and uh, we will hear that from our context, there

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Speaker 1: is some chasing going on. There are maximum amount of

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Speaker 1: rubs and scrapes. So the RUT radio title is now accurate,

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Speaker 1: very very appropriate, and I'm and I'm getting excited about it. Um.

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Speaker 1: I know I've got some stuff to share on that front.

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Speaker 1: As far as what's going on in Michigan. Um, I

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Speaker 1: know you might be able to share a little bit

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Speaker 1: about Kentucky, right, um. And then we have another bonus

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Speaker 1: today too. If people had heard last week's episode, we

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Speaker 1: had Illinois bow On or Don Higgins on the show

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Speaker 1: to kind of tell us about the latest exciting thing.

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Speaker 1: It's his hunt. You know, we had him on in

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Speaker 1: the summer. He told us about these two potentially two

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Speaker 1: one of them, the buck he called Smokey. So we

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Speaker 1: he went out the next his next hunt out that

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Speaker 1: how that all went down. It's really unbelievable. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if anyone else in the world maybe that's ever

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Speaker 1: gonna have some serious questions if we end up having

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's all tagged out, so

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Speaker 1: he had a heck of a go. So we'll have

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Speaker 1: I guess before we do that, Spencer, should we give

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Speaker 1: our own little rut radio reports here from our from

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Speaker 1: our own hunts. Yeah. Yeah, tell me about Michigan because

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Speaker 1: it looks like we have some colder weather coming through

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Speaker 1: on then to the to the meat of the podcast. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we start with Alex Gilstrom with white tail properties in Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and then we have Bryce Lamley and Nebraska with Sitka,

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a good lineup, Spencer. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: Don Higgins on here real quick in my conversation with

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Speaker 1: right into the full right report. Thanks, Spencer, talked to

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Speaker 1: with Don Higgins on the line. Donna, are you just

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Speaker 1: hear from you. Can you tell us what happened, um,

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Speaker 1: has actually all come true. Now. Yeah, the last Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: And that was Tuesday midday, Tuesday afternoon evening, I was

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Speaker 1: But determination also, like I I said, that was my

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Speaker 1: and I just just kept plugging away until the time

429
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: was right. I guess, why, why do you think that

430
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: was the right spot or this couple stands that you

431
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: had what led you to believe that this was these

432
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 1: are the right spots to be? What was so great

433
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: about that those locations, well they were it's wide open

434
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: farm country, just torn and soybean fields and there's very little,

435
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: you know, cover other than the crop fields, which crop

436
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: fields are great cover, but it's structure. It's it's no

437
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: different than fish. You know, if you've got a pond

438
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: and you've got one brush pile underwater in that pond,

439
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: that the fish are going to relate to it. And

440
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: it's the same way with these deer in the open prairie.

441
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: If there's just a little bit of cover out in

442
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: a wide open prairie, those deer are going to relate

443
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: to that that cover, just like fish relate to structure.

444
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: And uh so, I mean where I was at, I

445
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: wasn't about to see another bow hunter because there wasn't

446
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: another deer hunter out there. But uh, you know the

447
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: other thing I always do as I want to get

448
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: away from other hunters as far as possible because bucks

449
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: want to do the same thing. And a lot of

450
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: times that means you you give up some of the

451
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: best looking cover in an area. And you know, in

452
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: Trump's situation, that box is the real world as it gets,

453
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: because I don't I doubt if he ever said stepped

454
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: footing the food plot. Um, I don't know that any

455
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: any properties with food plots in the range that he

456
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 1: was covering that I know of, So I mean I

457
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: just the trail cameras helped immensely. Getting his daylight picture

458
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: on Tuesday basically just reinforced and me the idea that

459
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: he was still on that summer range. He had not

460
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 1: yet shifted to his fall winter range, which where he

461
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: had where he goes in the fallen winter. I have

462
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: like ten cameras scattered throughout that area, and I've been

463
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: checking him every I'll probably four or five days, because

464
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: when he shifted his range, I needed to shift my

465
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: focus and I need to start there. So I was

466
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to stay on top of that, and

467
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: and some of those were sparking cameras too that were

468
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 1: sending me pictures instantly. So I was doing everything I

469
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: could to be where he was at and I didn't

470
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: want to leave that summer range until I knew he did.

471
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: And that picture on Tuesday kind of confirmed that he

472
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: was did confirm without a doubt that he was still

473
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: on that summer range. So you know that's where I

474
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: continued to plug away. That makes sense. Wow, Well, uh,

475
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: h's an incredible story done. And uh, I don't know

476
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: where where's your head that? Now? You just had probably

477
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: the best week of deer hunting, maybe ever in the

478
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: history of white tail deer hunting. Um, you've killed her

479
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: two target bucks, one that is definitely over two, one

480
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 1: that I don't know if you've officially scored him yet,

481
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: but he's got to be in that ballpark. Um, where's

482
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: your head at? Now? Where do you go from here?

483
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: How do you feel? Well? I'm just to be clear,

484
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: Trump is not gonna make two. He's not got my

485
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: or miss it very far, but he's not gonna hit it. So, UM,

486
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of stuff on social media that

487
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: I've killed two bucks in a week, and I just

488
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to mislead anybody because Trump is not

489
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: quite gonna make it. But you know, I'm already focused

490
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: on next year. Um, I've you know that I'm getting

491
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: ready to go shift some some trail cameras that, like

492
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: I said, I have ten cameras focused right there in

493
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: Trump's range. I'm gonna move some of them. I'm gonna

494
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: be going to Iowa in the next couple of weeks

495
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. I've got a property out

496
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 1: there I've got permission on that supposed to be just

497
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: absolutely awesome. But I did not join in Iowa Tag

498
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: this year. This would have been the year I needed

499
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: it because now sitting here was nothing to do. But

500
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out to Iowa anyway, even without a TAG,

501
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: and I want to just have a look at the

502
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: property as it is in November, so that next year November,

503
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: you know, I've got to kind of a leg up

504
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 1: on if I'm just instead of showing up line, I'm

505
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna leave some trail cameras on the property, um, all

506
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: through the fall and probably go back and spring on

507
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: the shift antler hunt and pick up the cameras then.

508
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, it never ends for me. I'm always either

509
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: chasing a buck or looking for a buck to to chase.

510
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: So right now I'm looking for a buck to chase.

511
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: Um Here in Illinois, the biggest buck that I know of,

512
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: it's probably about a hundred and so I'm sure there's

513
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: some bigger ones around. I just need to find them

514
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: and figure out where they're staying. Well, uh, if if

515
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: you don't leave some of these guys, some of these

516
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: bucks alone, there won't be many of these really big

517
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: ones because it seems like if they're in your area,

518
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: they're in trouble. So don I want to thank you

519
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: for taking the time again two weeks in a row

520
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: now to to chat with us and tell us your story.

521
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: And uh, just congratulations again, really really incredible. Well thanks

522
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: a lot, Mark. I appreciate you having me on. And

523
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: I also want to thank everyone that is congratulated me

524
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: and sent words of encouragement. And I mean, I've got

525
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: so many texts. I can't imagine what it would be

526
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: like to be a guy like Leelakoski, because this last

527
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 1: week I couldn't even keep up on texts and stuff.

528
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean I look at my phone and I would

529
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: I would reply at every opportunity, and then I'd look

530
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: at my phone and I just had twenty more. So

531
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't staying on top of things. I was following behind.

532
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: And then you had emails and phone calls and Facebook

533
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: messages and everything else, and it was all encouraging and

534
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I want to thank everyone has

535
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: offered congratulations, and it just means the world to me

536
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: to to see the hunting community, uh, you know, be

537
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: so positive around this, and I'm just blessed and grateful

538
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: for everybody's kind words and encouragement. That's that's that's great

539
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: to hear that that's been the case, and uh, I'm

540
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: glad to hear. And it's been a nice example of,

541
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: like you said, the hunting community being positive and railing

542
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: around someone and lifting them up rather than trying to

543
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: drag someone down or be jealous or something like along

544
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: those lines. So that's that's great, son. I wish you

545
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: luck in your coming weeks of scouting and trying to

546
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: find a new buck and and checking out the isle

547
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: of property, and just do me one favor and send

548
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of your good luck my way. Could

549
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 1: you do that? Well? If I could bottle it up

550
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: I'd be selling it, that's for sure. I mean, I

551
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: can't even explain how I feel. I did go out

552
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: and by my first lottery take a long time on

553
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: last week, so I hope it continued. But good luck

554
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: to you this season, Mark and all your listeners as well.

555
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I'll be keeping an eye on

556
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: your website for you know, your future podcast with other

557
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: Deer Hunterson. Just keep up the good work. Sounds like

558
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: good plan. Done, have a good one. Before we get

559
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: to our first update, they'll let's positively think our sponsors

560
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Speaker 1: at Sitky Gear And for this week's story, we're joined

561
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: by Nick Kravitz tells us about how he was able

562
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: to tag the biggest buck of his life. So about

563
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: three years ago, my brother Tyler and I had got

564
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: trail cameras of this buck back three years ago, and

565
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: we called him sling Shot just because of his unique

566
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: rack style and uh we lost track up in the

567
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: past few years. But two weeks ago, I was gonna

568
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: sit a stand. It was the first night of a

569
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: cold front. It's been really warm, and uh it was

570
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: the first time I'd sit this stand all year long.

571
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: It was alongside of a cornfield in the swamp and

572
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: I got in the stand. I had seen really good

573
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: buck movement that night. I saw three or four other buck.

574
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: And then right after sunset, I just got done taking

575
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: some pictures of the sunset and my bow and whatnot,

576
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: and I look over to my left and all I

577
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: see is just a giant G two and G three,

578
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: And I immediately knew shooter. And sure enough, this buck

579
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: walked out into my shooting lane no more than two

580
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: or three minutes later, while I was full drawn by

581
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: the way, and uh, I put an arrow fume and

582
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: it turned out to be my biggest buck to date.

583
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: And it's just gonna be a really hard buck to beat.

584
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: And I'm super grateful and leased, and you know, I

585
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,880
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586
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587
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: story of your own, or to learn more about Sitkause

588
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Speaker 1: technical hunting apparel, visit Sitka gear dot com. Alright, and

589
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: joining us on the line first is Alex Gilstrom with

590
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: white Tail Properties out of Illinois. Now, Alex, on a

591
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, in this last week or so,

592
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been I'd

593
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: say on the skill one attend it's probably sitting right

594
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: now about a seven UM. And that's mainly because of

595
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: just the weather we've It seems like all October we've

596
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: just kind of looked out as far as timely cold fronts. UM,

597
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: it's not been really consistently more more cold. It's been

598
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, warm like we've experienced the last couple of years,

599
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: probably unseasonably, but um with timely cold fronts, and it

600
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: really gets the bucks up and moving. And I think

601
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: it's really kind of kind of started to we're now

602
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: moving into, like in this last week, really moving into

603
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: that seeking phase to where I mean even here hearing

604
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: some rumors of of Bucks lockdown or Bucks with does

605
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: um from time to time. Even from those first couple

606
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything like that, but uh, definitely starting

607
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: to see the scrapes open up, seeing more rubs um

608
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: pop open. The particular farm that I hunt has spent

609
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: most of my time on here in Illinois, it doesn't

610
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't hold the deer all year long. There's not

611
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: really much food on it, but it's got a lot

612
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: of cover um and it's a it's it's a great

613
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: transition area between the bedding and the food. So when

614
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: it gets closer to the rut, the does are here

615
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: and then and then the bucks move in. So the

616
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: cameras have been showing more and more mature bucks just

617
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: starting to pile into the ground. So it's it's exciting

618
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: to see. Well, it sounds like you're basing a lot

619
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: of that off of trail cameras and just seeing sign

620
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: in general. But have you seen anything in person as

621
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: far as chasing does or bucks that are sparring yet? Um,

622
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I was actually out this past

623
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Sunday morning, um, and it rained all Saturday night and

624
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Sunday morning here, so I did kind of some speed

625
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: scouting Sunday morning, check some cameras, um, and actually, uh

626
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of bumped the bedded buck. He didn't know what

627
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: I was. He just kind of kind of got up

628
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: and just kind of took one hop and then stood

629
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: there and looked around and just kind of walked off

630
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't see me, but he was he was

631
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: definitely mature buck. And uh, he was actually still betted

632
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: with a year and a half old buck, so there's

633
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: definitely uh. And I kind of I was kind of

634
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: following a scrape line that had been opened up, just

635
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: kind of looking through the thick cover and um, so

636
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: they're definitely not quite uh again getting too aggressive yet,

637
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: but it's definitely starting to see them and the and

638
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: then in the food sources over a couple of sis,

639
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: We've got some food plots out here, seeing some two

640
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: and a half and even a couple of three and

641
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: a half year old deer just just sparring. Not really

642
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: the knockdown, drag out stuff, but um, definitely starting to

643
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: get with it. We'll say, we get a good cold

644
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: front this weekend and you're going to be in one

645
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: of your best setups. What does that look like? Are

646
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: you gonna be hunting your betting in the mornings yet

647
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: or you a little bit cautious until we had November. Um,

648
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: probably I have enough. I'm lucky enough, less enough to

649
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: have enough property here to where I can kind of

650
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: push the envelope a little bit, um and I'll time

651
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: some of those cold fronts around that accordingly. So UM,

652
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: I will probably get in tight to some bedding, especially

653
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: as there's more sign and it looks what it looks

654
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: like some primary scrape areas and some community scrapes that

655
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: have kind of opened up, and just in the past,

656
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I've had some really good luck targeting that, targeting that

657
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: sign in the morning. Um So I probably will start

658
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: to target some of those areas this coming towards the

659
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: latter half of this week and this weekend, um and

660
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: then in the evenings. UM I'm probably going to be

661
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: concentrating most of my time on transition areas. The particular

662
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: property a hunt. It's it's pretty hilly here in western Illinois.

663
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: Um So there's kind of these these timber ridges that

664
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: kind of dumped down into these thicker bottoms, and then

665
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: there's quite a bit of CRP. There's some patches of CRP,

666
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: a couple different CRP fields, and um I've got some

667
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: really good locations set up for for cruising, the kind

668
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: of fingers of timber that jut out into the CRP,

669
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: and just some really good pinch points and funnels the

670
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: where deer can hug those transition lines, and um it

671
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: just seems to really concentrate the buck movement at least

672
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: as they're starting to be on their feet more in

673
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: daylight and start to seek more. Um So I'll probably

674
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: gonna start honing on those for evenings, all right, Alex,

675
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: with those scrapes and those robs starting to pop up more,

676
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: does that change anything for you as a hunter or

677
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: how do you use that as another piece of the

678
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 1: puzzle and the end of October. Yeah, I mean those

679
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: are huge for me personally, just because kind of, like

680
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, the way the property just the type

681
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: of property that I have access to hunt. Um, I've

682
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: got permission to hunt on. Um, it's kind of like

683
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: my indicator of It's kind of like my light bulb,

684
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: if you will, because it's like I said, the deer

685
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: don't don't summer on this property. They don't live The

686
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: bucks especially don't live there year around. It does hold

687
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: some doughs, quite a few does actually, just because the

688
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: cover is so good. But um, the food sources are

689
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: kind of on the perimeters, are on the the edges.

690
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: So when I start seeing more of that activity, it's

691
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: it's telling me a couple of things that I need

692
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: to shift my trail cameras um. And I usually shift

693
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: them before that anyway, just to kind of prepare for it.

694
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: But um, if it's a new new area or a

695
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: new part of the farm, UM, it makes in season

696
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: scouting super important because at half the cruise. I have

697
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: to kind of like I call it, I kind of

698
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: called speed scouting, where you kind of go through and

699
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: just kind of look for that sign and when you

700
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: start to see more activity. But ultimately that's what it indicates,

701
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: is more activity on the property from bucks. Um. So

702
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: when I start to see more of that stuff pop up,

703
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: and it's not just I mean, you know, you have

704
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: your little field edge where they're kind of pulling at

705
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: the ground and just making some little scrapes as you

706
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: can tell their cruising buy. But but really you know,

707
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: the trees that are shredded and take security cover, um,

708
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: you know where there's obviously spending more time and and

709
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: you know scrapes that are just really uh torn up

710
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: or the licking branches are thrashed, and and and where

711
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: they're they're obviously hitting it multiple times um or at

712
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: least you know, once once a day, every once every

713
00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: couple of days, UM. More established scrape areas is kind

714
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: of what I'm looking for. But I want to start

715
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: seeing more of that. I know bucks are spending more

716
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: time on the property and ultimately, um, that's when I know,

717
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, I can start putting in more more quality

718
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: sits long term sits and start keying in on the

719
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: on the areas that that they should be, you know,

720
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: to intersect one kind of cruising back and forth from

721
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: thick cover to the food sources on the edge, um

722
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: or coming back in the morning, spending more time transitioning

723
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: through the property as they go back to bed. Now,

724
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: going forward in this next week or so, Alex, what

725
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: do you think that Bucky activity is going to be

726
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Illinois? Like

727
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: I said, I think it's probably it's holding strong at

728
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: a at a seven right now, and I think it's

729
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: probably gonna get back. I think it's probably gonna either

730
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: either maintain that or it might even jump up to

731
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: a to a nine. I hate to I'm not even

732
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: gonna say attend because I don't want to drink sit.

733
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: But but I think it's gonna just get really good.

734
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we've got some colder temperatures we're getting I

735
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: mean we're getting into the part that you know that

736
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: we Gosh scout for dream about loosely but overall year long.

737
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: Just in the next two weeks coming up, So I

738
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: think it's really gonna start getting good. And it looks

739
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: like we're gonna get blessed with some good weather too. So, um,

740
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: high pressure alter the rest of this week, uh, falling temperatures,

741
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of wind and a little bit of rain.

742
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: But I don't mind that at all. As long as

743
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: that that pressure is up and the temperatures are down,

744
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: it should should continue to get really good. So I'll

745
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: confidently say right around the eight eight, eight or nine,

746
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: moving forward. All right, Alex Well, I like your optimism

747
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: and good luck going forward. Thanks for joining me. Thanks,

748
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: that's appreciate it alright, and joining us on the line.

749
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Next is Bryce Lamley, an outdoor writer from Nebraska. Now

750
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: Bryce in Nebraska, what would you say the buck activity

751
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: has been lately on the scale of one to town. Well,

752
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: I hate to sound like Debbie down here, but I

753
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: would say afore it's been slower than usual. Say, the

754
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: bucks are just now starting to show interest in scrapes,

755
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: and I realized it's still October and so forth. But um,

756
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: usually I've got some major, you know, perennial scrapes that

757
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: get opened up even in September, and you know, the

758
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: first cold night in September will be tore up. And

759
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: I just haven't been seeing that this year, and part

760
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: of that, I think the dude there's still being a

761
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 1: lot of crops in the field and deer spending less

762
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: time in the in the woods. But it's been it's

763
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: been off to a slow start. Now having said that,

764
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I think things are in the process of changing right

765
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: as we speak, Well, Brighten a lot of the Great Plains. Uh,

766
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 1: this summer and fall, we've had odd stretches of dry

767
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: periods and wet periods. Has that affect anything for you

768
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: in Nebraska? It really has, And I think, uh, you know,

769
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: in some cases it's really affected deer movement patterns because

770
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: we've still got a lot of standing water left here

771
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: in eastern Nebraska's keeping not only farmers out of the field,

772
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: but it's keeping the it's it's making dear movement. And

773
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: in some case, I think it's actually helped me because

774
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: it's helped me define deer traffic where they had many

775
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: options to cross a you know, a swamp or a

776
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: marshy stretch where they barely get wet, and now that

777
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: waters up to you know, their chests or their back

778
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: and so it has defined there there movement a little

779
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: bit for me. Um, but you know, it's interesting. I

780
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: just talked to a farmer here the other day and

781
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, even that standing water in

782
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: the field, he said, we can still get in there

783
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: and and uh pick pick the crops. He said, it's

784
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: not a problem for the combine, but he said the

785
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: grain cards will get stuck. And we're just starting to

786
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: see some of the irrigated corn that's down on the

787
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: river bottoms start to come out just right as we speak,

788
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: just right now. So do you see that water receding

789
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: anytime soon or is this something that people are going

790
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: to be dealing with, you know, all of the rut

791
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be an issue as we

792
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: go forward, because you know that there's a place on

793
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: one property it's usually just a mud puddle, and it's

794
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a oh, I don't know, it's

795
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: it's twenty yards across, and and right now that when

796
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: I walk in there's a flock of twenty wood ducks

797
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: on it. Most days it's and it used to be

798
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: just a mud puddle that would barely get your tire wet.

799
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: And so I think we're still going to see this

800
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: going forward, that the water doesn't seem to be going anywhere,

801
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: and I think the ground, you know, it's just not

802
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: accepting anymore, or sister him really slow to to um absorb. Well,

803
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: you talked about scrapes a little bit earlier. How about

804
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: for other ud sign as far as rubs or you know,

805
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: bucks chasing at this point, Well, honestly, the rubs have

806
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: started to show up and and show up more frequently

807
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: in the year I killed in October eight, he was

808
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: in I mean he literally three or formens before I

809
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: shot him, was making a pretty serious rub. And I've

810
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: got a friend from Grand Island out in central Nebraska,

811
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: and he has seen the activity around scrapes and rubs

812
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: pick up dramatically here just in the last few days. Well,

813
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: going forward, then in this next week or so, Bryce,

814
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: what do you think the buck activity is going to

815
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: be on the scale of one to ten in Nebraska.

816
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be up there around seven

817
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: or and then maybe I'm being you know, maybe I'm

818
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: a little bit conservative on that. Um. You know, it's

819
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: it's not November yet, but I do see things take up.

820
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: My trail camera has shown strangely some bucks moving past

821
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: it at nine in the morning and nine dirty and

822
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: stuff like this, and that's kind of unusual given what

823
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing very much from stand and so I

824
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: think that round the verge is something big. I listened

825
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: to you guys last week talked about the cold fronts

826
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: and so forth, and I totally agree with that. We

827
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: haven't had a night here in Fremont, Nebraska on the

828
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: thirty two degrees. I believe this fall that's supposed to

829
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: change here in the next few days, and I think

830
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: that will change the hunting and kind of goose these

831
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: bucked into two more of an activity, whether as they're

832
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: really searching for those all Right, Bryce, well, I hope

833
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: you get a chance to take advantage of cold front

834
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: and good luck this year. Well, thank you very much.

835
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Before we get to our next call, though, let's pausitively

836
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: thank our sponsors at white Tail Properties. And this week

837
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: with white Tail Properties, we are joined by Billy O'Connor,

838
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: a land specialist out of Kansas, and Billy is going

839
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: to be giving us some advice for those hunters who

840
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: are planning a vocation in Kansas. Um. Well, a lot

841
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: of people want to come to Kansas in the middle

842
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: of the rut, which is typically the second week in November. So,

843
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: and it's a great time to come because you see

844
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: a lot of deer movement. Uh, there's deers tine everywhere.

845
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: The acting is hot, and it just feels like fall.

846
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: But personally, um, if you're looking to get mature bucks,

847
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: my favorite time is the last few days of October,

848
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of over the Halloween weekend time period. Um, the

849
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: rust is starting to get going in the bigger bucks. Um.

850
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: They're not necessarily pinning down with does just yet. Um.

851
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: Often during the peak of the rut you'll see a

852
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: lot of deer, but they're typically smaller and younger, and

853
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: the big mature ones have already got with their dough

854
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: and are are not moving around quite as much. UM.

855
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: With that said, it is Kansas, so anytime you're in

856
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: the woods, you have a shot at a giant and

857
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: there's a plenty of deer to go around. UM. So

858
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: for a few days of October into the first three

859
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: weeks of November, you can't really go wrong and just

860
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: kind of focus on pinch points in between betting and

861
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: cover and go to where the does are because the

862
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: bucks are gonna be coming to the EXACTERFI if you'd

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Speaker 1: O R. Alright, and joining us on the line next

867
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Speaker 1: is Philip Vanderpool, the founder of the Virtue TV. Now,

868
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: Philip and Arkansas. What would you say the buck activity

869
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: has been lately on a scale of one to ten. Well, Uh,

870
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: it's actually been a little bit slow because of the hot,

871
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: dry weather and we have an unbelievable mass crop this year,

872
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: lots of acorns, uh for simmons and stuff like that.

873
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: And um, I I say the activity has been slow,

874
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: but I can tell you right now it's really Right

875
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: now it's starting to pick up. The scrapes are opening up, uh,

876
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: fresh reb lines. The bucks are starting to feel it

877
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: because the temperature is changing. We have a weather front

878
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: moving in as we speak. The wind is bowing really

879
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: hard grown in cold front and northwest wind. Uh. It's

880
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: it's really looking good coming up here in the next

881
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: week or so. Right now, I think it's about a

882
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: six out of ten there in Arkansas. Alright, boy, I

883
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: know you hunt all over the Midwest, Um, but how

884
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: does Arkansas's rout timing different than other places. For example,

885
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: are you guys in pre rout right now and coming

886
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: up on seeking and chasing or how does that work

887
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: for either right there? I think you know, usually the

888
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 1: muzzleoader season opens and that's and that's going on right now.

889
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: It's really a good time, uh for the the It

890
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: seems like it usually hits when those big bucks are

891
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: starting to get on their feet just about this time. Uh,

892
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: they're starting to show up in the daylight. So how

893
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: does that muzzleloader season affect other thing for you guys,

894
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: deer patterns and change with their betting, feeding, any of

895
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: that stuff. Not not really, It probably does in some

896
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: areas you have obviously a little more hunting pressure on

897
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: your public lands and stuff there, um. But for the

898
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: most part that seems like the musloading hunting is spread

899
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: out and so it's not as big a factor. Um.

900
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: And it's a very good time for a bowl hunter

901
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: to get out there though and start getting it on

902
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: their mind. And with this weather front moving in as

903
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: we speak, it's and for this next week it's I mean,

904
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: things are going to really get cranked up. Well, you

905
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: talked about the big mass crop earlier. Is that something

906
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: that is more of an immediate factor or is that

907
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: something you think will be dealing with the next, you know, month,

908
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: all the way through their run. Well, obviously you're gonna

909
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: deal with that through the through the rut because there's

910
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: such a huge mass crop. It's not really what I've noticed,

911
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty much everywhere that I've been, even in

912
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: the Midwest, Uh, traveling away, I've noticed an unusually large

913
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: mass crop everywhere I've been this year, and so you

914
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: know they're again hunting along these edges of your fields.

915
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: Can be good because you're looking for your rubs and

916
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: your scrapes, but you also have a mass crop there.

917
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: And where I'm from there in the Ozarks, we don't

918
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: have a lot of agriculture, so we have to kind

919
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: of depend on learning how to hunt these mass crops.

920
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: So as it safe to say then that a lot

921
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: of your trail cameras right now are in a little

922
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: bit thicker stuff maybe close to where do these bucks

923
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: are betting around scrapes and those acorns. Yes, absolutely, I've

924
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: been running the covert trail cameras all summer and going

925
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: into it, and just this last week I really had

926
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: bucks to start showing up that I haven't seen, uh

927
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: since back early summer. They sometimes they will disappear, they

928
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: go to the they go to the heavy mass crops,

929
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: and then then they'll kind of work back in the

930
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: some of the areas where I picked them up in

931
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: the summer. And that's what I'm basically doing. They're really

932
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: and it's legal. Just so you know, it's legal to feed.

933
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: And I've been using a lot of big time feed

934
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: and then also uh a little little bit of buck

935
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: brunch making those little hunt plots quarteractor plots there. And

936
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: these bucks are starting to come back to the green

937
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: a little bit now. They because they've had mass crops

938
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: now for over a month. So it's the news kind

939
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: of war off if you will. What going forward? Then

940
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: in this next week or so, Philip, what do you

941
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: think that buck activty is going to be in Arkansas?

942
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, I really believe

943
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: this next week it's gonna be about an eight or

944
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: a nine. I think you're gonna see a lot of

945
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: heavy rut activity because of the cooler weather. They're healthy

946
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: going into it. They got the mass crops now and

947
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of activity. Look for rubs

948
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: and scrapes. They're gonna be on that pattern. If you've

949
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: got a particular buck that you have been getting on

950
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: trail camera and getting nighttime photos, start paying attention before

951
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: he gets into that full blown rut, because now is

952
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: the time to shoot that old sad daddy. I mean,

953
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: it's it's really this next week is going to be unbelievable.

954
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: I don't really care where you're at because we've got

955
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: the weather conditions coming and that's a that's a huge

956
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: factor at that trumps over anything. All right, Philip, Well

957
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: that's some great intel, and good luck to you and

958
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: the rest of the Virtue TV team going forward. Thanks

959
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: for joining me, all right, Thank you appreciate it. You

960
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: need anything else, holler anytime, okay, buddy, take care alright,

961
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Denny Quaife,

962
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: the executive director for the Virginia Deer Hunters Association. Denny

963
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: in Virginia, what would you say the buck activity has

964
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, I'd

965
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: say right now we are early pre rut, and I

966
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: would say three or four when I'm it's you know,

967
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: these bucks are still on the food source right now.

968
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: We've got a real wide, red, heavy acorn crop, and

969
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to see some scrapes that are showing up.

970
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: And most of the trail camera activity I have on

971
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: bucks is at night. Very few I'm seeing on trail

972
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: carols in the daylight. So I think it's still you know,

973
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: it's still early, pretty much normal for this part of

974
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: the world. Well, you talked about that they're focusing on

975
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: food right now, and what kind of food sources are

976
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: we talking? Like I said, we've got a wide, widespread

977
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: acorn crop, is a very heavy mass crop. And uh,

978
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, when you have a heavy mass crop, I

979
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: don't have to tell you. You You know, they don't have

980
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: to move much to feeds, so you know, we don't

981
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: have as much movement as a result of the food souls. Well,

982
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: then you guys have a gun season coming up here

983
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the month. How does that change

984
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: things for you in Virginia as far as the buck activity.

985
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Does that suppress things or do you think that gets

986
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: the deer moving a little more to play that muzzle

987
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: of the season, which will come in the first sturdy

988
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: in November, Things start to pick up. Historically, you know,

989
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: all the bucks that I've shot during the Muslims season,

990
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: where you know, sometimes starting around the eighth of November

991
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: and and then it really starts getting really hot activity

992
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: moving forward, it up into the gun season, which comes

993
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: in the second Saturday, how to actually come in the

994
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: third Saturday of November, and that period of time, and

995
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: that's about as much activity as you're gonna see anytime

996
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: as far as the bucks being moving and and and

997
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: chasing and so forth, we're right around that time. In

998
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: these next couple of weeks, are you finding more success

999
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: in the morning for hunts are in the evenings? Well,

1000
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: historically most of the buck seemed to move better in

1001
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: the evenings. From my perfect experience, I'm shot in both

1002
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: date light at first light and last light. So you know,

1003
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: it's no really no line of reason as far as

1004
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: that's concerned. So the more time you spend the woods

1005
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: a buddy of chances off. Now, how do you think

1006
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: the weather patterns pay a factor in these next couple

1007
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: of weeks as far as if we get a cold

1008
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: front or a warm front or a bunch of precipitation

1009
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: there in Virginia. But obviously, you know the weather does

1010
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: play a role in it. I mean, you know, if

1011
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: it's extremely hot, you're not gonna have as much daytime activity.

1012
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: How I think it has any effect on the rut.

1013
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: H We have a really serious management program that we

1014
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: have and we says at the end of the season,

1015
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: and the rut activity is always hot around the tenth

1016
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: of November, so you know, regardless of the weather, that's

1017
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: when the ruts going on. But the cooler weather, of

1018
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: course makes hunting that much better. And it seems like

1019
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: we're in a pattern now, a better cool of days,

1020
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: so hopefully that's gonna be good. Well, it sounds like

1021
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: you're confident then going forward, But what do you think

1022
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: that will translate to on a scale of one to

1023
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: ten in the sex week or so as far as

1024
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: buck activity goes, I think I'll start making a move

1025
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: in the right direction. I mean, you may get it.

1026
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: I said three to four, maybe five or six as

1027
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: it starts moving forward. Around Halloween is always a time

1028
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: that I thought it seems more daytime activity, so I

1029
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: think he'll start picking up. All right. Danniel, thanks for

1030
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: your time and good luck this year. Thank you very much,

1031
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: and that concludes this week's episode of Wired Haunts brought Radio.

1032
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1034
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Speaker 1: And the next time I talked to you guys, it

1035
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: is going to be November. So happy rot. Thank you

1036
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: for listening and as always, stay wired to Hunt.