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Speaker 1: This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely

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Speaker 1: bug bitten in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't

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Speaker 1: you stand with on x. Cal was trying to show

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Speaker 1: off his catfish grabbing scar, which may not be showing

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Speaker 1: off because it shows a lack of technique. You weren't

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Speaker 1: showing it off. You were demonstrating, illustrating. I'm part of

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Speaker 1: the club. Did it? Did he spin on you? Yes? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and spun hard and fast enough to where the pain

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Speaker 1: that I got was from my elbow small backing into

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Speaker 1: the tub. Being there, done that and was in the

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Speaker 1: tub into the tub. Well, these guys, they so they mark,

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Speaker 1: they put a little Yeah, they mark natural nesting sites.

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Speaker 1: But then they also get super sneaky and hide old

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Speaker 1: cast iron tubs that they cut a nine. You calling, well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's illegal in some place. I'm not calling

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Speaker 1: coul liar. I'm just telling me it's a better way

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Speaker 1: We build wooden boxes. It looks kind of like a colfin.

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Speaker 1: Why a cast there tub inverted? It's heavy yep, so

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Speaker 1: flipped yep. So the the bottoms on top pointing towards

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Speaker 1: the sky, and what you gotta call a little entrance

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Speaker 1: hole in there. They cut a nine by eleven hole.

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Speaker 1: That's all it takes for him to get into. And

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Speaker 1: I said, why is nine by eleven? He's like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's a standard sheet of paper, so everybody knows the measurement.

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Speaker 1: And a big half, a big snapping turtle can't get

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Speaker 1: in there. That's right. Okay, Now, how would cal have

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Speaker 1: done it if he wasn't stupid? Well, from what from

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Speaker 1: where I'm seeing the scar Yet he's just um crap

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Speaker 1: out of luck because you actually got past his lip.

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Speaker 1: He swallowed you with what he did. Uh, you're screed. Course,

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Speaker 1: the farthest you've ever gotten your arm down in one

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Speaker 1: Uh not me, but one of my cohorts that was

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Speaker 1: was ninety seven pound blue m And we we do

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Speaker 1: it a little bit different than some. I say we

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Speaker 1: is actually a gentleman by the name of Mike Willoughby

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Speaker 1: who carries me who's been on some of the reality.

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Speaker 1: He carries you in his boat. I'm not that old yet.

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Speaker 1: I can still get around. My god, i'd come through

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Speaker 1: the door. But we have spodders on each side, so

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Speaker 1: that really, if you do get into trouble, someone's always there.

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Speaker 1: And it took this boy under, completely under, and two

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Speaker 1: people were trying to hold his head up, and they're

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Speaker 1: going to let go, let go, let go, And as

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Speaker 1: He going I can't, I can't, right back down again.

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Speaker 1: That happened three times, and then when he finally got

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Speaker 1: his arm out, he turned around and looked and says,

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Speaker 1: blocked the hole. And you're seeing blood going down his arm.

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Speaker 1: And we're talking to ninety seven pound blue. Blue is

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Speaker 1: a mean sucker, is what he is. Cafish catfish. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mean catfish. You know what I mean. He's gonna get along.

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Speaker 1: I can already see it. Uh, But they blocked the hole.

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Speaker 1: He went back, um, got a little bit of breath

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Speaker 1: and said, uh, okay, here I come, and we're going

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Speaker 1: we need to get you the doctor. He goes when

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Speaker 1: he said, blocked the hold, and he means so the

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Speaker 1: catfish can't drag him back into the hole, or dragging

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Speaker 1: get himself back into the hole. No, so that the

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Speaker 1: catfish couldn't get out. You take your feet and you

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Speaker 1: stick in the hole to block the hole, uh, to

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Speaker 1: keep the fish from coming out. Because see, now you've

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Speaker 1: got him mad. Now he knows that something's trying to

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Speaker 1: He did took him over to the boat that the

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Speaker 1: not carving the doctor is it kind of just like

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Speaker 1: I feel like grabbing It's just like exhibitionism, right, It's

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Speaker 1: kind of like no one's doing it to get catfish.

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Speaker 1: People just doing it to be like I grab the catfish. Look.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like waite white look right here, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: big old gut. Do you think I'm gonna be throwing

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Speaker 1: a good what I call the caviar or the south

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Speaker 1: which is a flathead. I'm going to keep me a

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Speaker 1: time we keep the males and release the female, and

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Speaker 1: you'll have a male in a female. So you guys

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Speaker 1: you still got all your spawners, right, because that is

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Speaker 1: of these wooden boxes. But it's not like the most

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Speaker 1: seven or eight fish running newwhere from twenty to forty

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Speaker 1: There is actually a season in the state of Mississippi,

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Speaker 1: so the coincides with the spawn right correct about June

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Speaker 1: June fourteenth. You need to be there if you're not scared.

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Speaker 1: Not scared, Okay, I'm gonna talk to Calfari, gonna find

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Speaker 1: out find out what he did or didn't do. It

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Speaker 1: is I opening, man, I thought it amazing. It's it's

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Speaker 1: I mean all the things. It's like, the water is

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Speaker 1: I wore a mask, which I think did look around well,

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Speaker 1: just mentally I think it helps to have your eyes open.

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Speaker 1: Oh but you can't see at all, you know. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you you know, it's not like shocking cool refreshing

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Speaker 1: wrapped in the warm towel. It's like primordial feel too,

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Speaker 1: very claustrophobic. And then you get in there and you're

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Speaker 1: something worm like bites you, you know, not in a

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Speaker 1: friendly sort of testing you out sort of way. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like not nibbling, No, it is like smash. Now

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Speaker 1: when they're doing that, they're defending the nest, right, correct,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're not. They're not trying to feed, No,

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Speaker 1: what what it is. It's like uh, smaller fish, blue

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Speaker 1: can promise you this, The boys that I would carry

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Speaker 1: you with are extremely good, and we'll coach you and

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Speaker 1: tell you everything you do or don't want to do.

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Speaker 1: How did a turkey collar. Get on catfishing well, because

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Speaker 1: because the cow showing off his arm, now just demonstrate

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Speaker 1: his arm. But here, here's here's the thing you haven't

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Speaker 1: old days, they would use old hot water heaters. They

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Speaker 1: would use uh bass tubs, which all that stuff is

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Speaker 1: now illegal. Oh, you're not supposed to, at least in

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Speaker 1: the state of Mississippi useing you to lies out because

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Speaker 1: they don't deteriorate. That's the reason why we use wood,

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Speaker 1: do that. You never know when there could be a beaver,

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Speaker 1: like the entrance to a beaver den. How about this

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Speaker 1: a six foot alligator. M hmm. I've never seen many

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Speaker 1: or over a period of years they've learned like where

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Speaker 1: guy who's hunting buddies of my dad, and they were

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Speaker 1: and feel undercut bangs for turtles. Oh what do you

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Speaker 1: mean he wouldn't. I'm not. It's like you didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: You ain't seen our logger head turtles. And you can

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Speaker 1: feel around, feel around and see the fish. Well hit

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Speaker 1: the stick. Yeah, I've seen guys also wait out spooker

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Speaker 1: feet till eventually find I like my toast. And yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, when I was growing up, people

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Speaker 1: That was the thing that everybody said where they eat, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but it was like a thing people said. Man,

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Speaker 1: They're like, no, he won't like they won't bite you

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Speaker 1: out of aggression underwater. Oh yeah. And as a kid

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Speaker 1: oh perfect. I was pulling up one time on a

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Speaker 1: They're sure biting each other, have agression underwater. But it's

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Speaker 1: just the thing people said that they oh, no, they

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Speaker 1: won't bite you underwater. I don't know. All I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: will lie to you two. But what about biting up

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Speaker 1: underneath the water? That they do bite under the water, Well,

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Speaker 1: how the heck does he eat? No? I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know why. Everybody said

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Speaker 1: that that it won't hit you won't to tap. Well,

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Speaker 1: i'll tell you what you can find out. I'm not pressent.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever known anybody to lose a digit? No

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Speaker 1: from a turtle or no? No, I have not. But

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Speaker 1: then I've got a small group that I go with.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna find out. I like my fingers and

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Speaker 1: my toes too much. You've been um, you've been shot twice. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I want to get to that in a minute. Hang tight, though,

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Speaker 1: I can't hang loose? You hang loose? Yeah? What what

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Speaker 1: the hell is that? Why do we have both those things?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So when you you like your fingers

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Speaker 1: you'd kind of in a fetal position protecting those things,

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Speaker 1: they didn't hit your fingers, did they? I still got

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Speaker 1: shot in me all over. We'll talk about that. You

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Speaker 1: tell me when you want to talk about it. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just want that's gotta do something real quick. Okrant explain,

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Speaker 1: I'll check out. Are you to explain the deal to

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Speaker 1: the one? Krenz gotta tell us about the update about

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Speaker 1: the dude that was eating the dog? But it wasn't

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Speaker 1: I feel like cal's probably better. We can we can maybe, well,

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Speaker 1: did you research? Continue to research? Crens been on it.

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Speaker 1: That's when we had lead shot, only not copper coated

423
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: lead and not T s S. Do you feel like, Um,

424
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: just from your understanding of turkey shot at that distance, Um,

425
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: would that would that have the MP to get through

426
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: your skull and get your brain? Well? I had two pillars,

427
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: only two pillars that they removed was right beside my

428
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: back of my neck. Oh, it could have got your

429
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: spine and the rest of them. They said, we'll do

430
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: more damage and taking them out than you know, just

431
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: let him stay and over a period of about five years,

432
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: I'd get like a pimple on my back and starts

433
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: scratching it and they're coming. Number six shot popping out.

434
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: Save some of those huh why not why? And a

435
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: little put it? Tell you like this those type of trophies.

436
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: I don't want. Um what uh the shooter? Did he

437
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: run off or did he run over to help? Was

438
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: he helpful? Daddy? If about forty years ago your son

439
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: came home without his shotgun, I still have it to

440
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: this day. Let's just say we ended up in a confrontation.

441
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to use that strong of the language

442
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: that I we didn't agree with each other. I'm trying

443
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: to say this politically correct. I confronted him, and he

444
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: proceeded to tell me that he could hunt anywhere he

445
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: wanted to, as I'm trying to educate the young man

446
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: to the point of recognize your target, to see the

447
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: whole animal, don't shoot it, say on, so on so on,

448
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: And he was blaming you for having uh. Yes, and

449
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: I do take part of the I take part of

450
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: the blame. But when he swung that old single barrel

451
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: at me, and after he shot you, Oh yeah, and

452
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: told me to go to Haydes that he would hunt

453
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: anyway he wanted to. Uh. I proceeded to disarm him.

454
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Shall we say, man, talk about a guy doubling down?

455
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: You're talking about are you reading that? Getting I just

456
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: got to say it, piste off. I got piste off now,

457
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: so he he got you onder the edge of after

458
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: he shot, he tried to knock the hill out on

459
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: me with his gun barrel. I think you, guys, I

460
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: would feel that if I shot someone, I would run

461
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: over and sort of be like, um, boy, am I

462
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: in the wrong? Is there anything I can do to

463
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: be of assistance? Well, the second time I got shot,

464
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. That's okay. Well, I want to folks.

465
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: And it was about three hundred yards from where I

466
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: got shot at the time, and I was doing the

467
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: same thing. You know, we're kind of hard to educate something.

468
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: Is that where you plan on taking Steve Turkey hunting

469
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 1: when he comes down to visit. I don't even go

470
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: in that part of the country anymore. Uh. The second

471
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: time I got shot, basically I'm not um, no police involvement,

472
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: but yeah, did you go seek medical treatment? Ah? I

473
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: finally went to the hospital that doug those two shots out.

474
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: How many pels did you get in? You a bunch?

475
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: Let's just say later on that night, after I got

476
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: back from the hospital. Um, if you want to picturing

477
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: your mind on funny side, uh, imagine someone having a

478
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: couple of adult beverages and then getting on top of

479
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: the bathroom counter with a need, a pocket life and

480
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: a pair of tweezers and popping as many as you

481
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: can out of your rear inn out. That was just man.

482
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: The second time, I didn't get penetrated that much, and

483
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: you never said to the cops here I got shot. Well,

484
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: you beat up, I think john, people do that. Let

485
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: me give you a first wait wait wait, wait wait wait,

486
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: we called the cops. We called the cops last night.

487
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: You got to realize, though, how many years ago that was? Okay? Okay,

488
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm sixty seven, I think, yeah, sixty seven years old.

489
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: I was in my twenties, early twenties whenever this happened,

490
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,719
Speaker 1: and I just didn't see any need to do it. Okay,

491
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: the second time, second time, and here again we're going

492
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: way back. Okay, we're going back and when there were

493
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: not that many turkey hunters. There was nothing for nation

494
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: that there is out there now with you know, quality

495
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: TV shows like yourself and all the others and the

496
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: Internet than having in that crap. Uh, you were turkeys too,

497
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: probably right then? Oh, I can remember trying to find

498
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: a track. I've been through it all. I've seen from

499
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: basically very little, all the way to the rise of

500
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: what we call the good old days, to the steady

501
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: and off to the decline that we're having late nineties,

502
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: early two thousands. About no before the two thousands, we're

503
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: gonna say nineties, it's gonna be in the nineties. Um.

504
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: But this gentleman I knew, and he was one of

505
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the few what I call good turkey hunters. But he's

506
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: a creeper too, That's what I say. A creeper, Huh,

507
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: A sneaker. That's not bushwhagon, that's figuring them out by

508
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: a guy. Because I want to you. If I can't

509
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: call him, I'll crawling. Okay, So let's tea. I want

510
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: to listen. I'm really interesting in getting shot there. But

511
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: I want to understand the Norman clature here or the

512
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: the lexicon. What in your mind is a bushwhacker? Somebody

513
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: shoot him out the window. Yeah, your vehicle. Now, what's

514
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: your opinion on the ground blacks where that damn things?

515
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: It's too confining. Now hang on, let's stop right here

516
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: so that that that that I can get this out right.

517
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: People that are listening as a general center, ruse. You

518
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: don't walk and call and you don't sneak. There are places,

519
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: are tracts of land that you can get away with it.

520
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: We're fixing to get into a whole scoop. I don't

521
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: even know what I want people to hunt safely. Okay,

522
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about eight. I just want to understand before

523
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: we do that. I want to get into life lessons

524
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: about getting shot turkey. But I just I'm just I'm

525
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: just curious about this from from regional variations. Uh a creeper,

526
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: here's a gobble and sneaks up on it. Have you

527
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: ever tried it in the South? No, okay, then you

528
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: hit and tried it. Yet, don't give me the you're

529
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna lay on the like these turkeys are

530
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: so like everyone knows that the Missouri turkey. No, Mississippi,

531
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Alabama and Louisiana. It's very hardest states. They are evenywhere

532
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: in the country. If you can kill a bird in

533
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Mississippi and Alabama, you can go anywhere in the United

534
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: States and kill a bird. I promise you. We have

535
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: the seasons of any state. But you're not. You won't

536
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: answer my question. Okay, question, what is a creeper? A

537
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: creeper is someone that um if he won't come to you,

538
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you go to him. By that time, you have been

539
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: in on this bird multiple times and you have figured

540
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: out what is going on. Either he is homosexual or

541
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: either he has all the hands that he wants and

542
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: it's not going to come to you. Now. Is that

543
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: the accepted procedure that most turkey hunters do? Absolutely not,

544
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: but you are open to it. I'll put a hen

545
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: decoy on my head and crawl out in the middle

546
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: of a cow pastern kill him. I'll put a tail

547
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: chaser on my gun barrel and crawl up and kill him.

548
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: I'll dig a hole in the ground and bury myself

549
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: to kill him. So you're not down on the creeper

550
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: that shot you. Okay, I thought it was a derogatory term. Alright,

551
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: So there you are hunting. We're hunting, and am I

552
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: gonna catch some slack over this. I don't care though.

553
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: It's my style. It's my way, not from this grew Okay.

554
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: It was like I said, if I can't call him,

555
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: I will crawl him. If it's legal in that particular state. Alabama,

556
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: for example, just passed the law that like the fanning,

557
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: that's a creeper. You've seen that that that's a creeper, right, Okay,

558
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: fanning is illegal now in the state of that. How

559
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: do they even if you're stationary or yeah, how do

560
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: they spell it out? There's multiple states that can but

561
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,439
Speaker 1: how do they describe? You know what I mean? Like, well,

562
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: how is it described? Basically? I am guessing. Okay, Uh.

563
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: I have to tell you about a couple of different

564
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: products made by Mojo. There is the tail Chaser erect,

565
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: which has an apparatus that goes on to your gun

566
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: barrel okay, that you can crawl and keep in front

567
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: of you, and it has like a little tripod on it,

568
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: and then there just scoot and shoot that has a

569
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: handle behind. And I've had one of those in my

570
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: Amazon car because they're out of stock for a long time.

571
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: I like those things. Let me know if you need one,

572
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: I can get you one. Please Okay, you need one? Yeah, okay, okay, uh, Terry,

573
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: are you hearing this? I need three more. I don't

574
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: even think it's in my I think that now something's

575
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: in your Amazon cart. So long to your wife deletes

576
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: it because she's like, why is this been in here

577
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: for like eight monks? Just don't know the right Okay,

578
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: but man, we still haven't talk about getting shot. But

579
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: go on, but go on. I don't know where the

580
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: heck oup was that? Oh? But that that that that's

581
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: a creeper. If you don't want to enlighten normal and

582
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fan that allows you to move yes,

583
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: up on birds like partially at least partially obscured. Yes,

584
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: probably more so because their attention is on the fan.

585
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Someone to explain why this is dangerous, because yeah, what

586
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: do you what did you got? You've got a gobbler?

587
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: What are you trying to hunt? I got? I'll repeat,

588
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: only do this in places where you know you can

589
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: do it safely, like very private land, in the middle

590
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: of that private land. Oh and Yania, are you trying

591
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: to um find out how they articulate? Yeah? Right now,

592
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: that's a tough one to explain and regular yeah, and

593
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear like what exactly, like how

594
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: they express it, Like, I think that's the state of Pennsylvania.

595
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: You cannot uh, you have to be stationary, period. And

596
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: I believe you have to walk in with Hunter's orange.

597
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: And I have also been told that you need to

598
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: put a like a ban or whatever hanging on the tree.

599
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that part of it. I believe

600
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania they say many years you can stalk a

601
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: turkey right in some places. Huh, that makes sense, Like

602
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: if you're mobile, you have to display that your mobile

603
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: by wearing plays orange. That that would be an easy

604
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: way to do. That feels a little big brother to

605
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: me personally. I believe that's the only eight where Hunter's

606
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: Orange is required. Interesting, I believe, I don't know that

607
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: far fact. Probably because he had a bunch of ninnies

608
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: reporting themselves to the cops every time they got shot.

609
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: That's why it's best just keep quiet, you tweezers. Let me,

610
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: let me set the seat, let me set the scene

611
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: for you. Here you are, you're a survivor. You've been

612
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: shot turkey hunting before you got shot because you're a goblin.

613
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: So you go back out to that spot and commenced

614
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: to goblin, and a gentleman creeps up only and basically

615
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: the same thing steps on a twig. As he's getting

616
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: close to me here again, I turned and looked, and

617
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, bawled up into a ball.

618
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have to carry him out.

619
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: He was that upset. He was that upset, and he

620
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: quit hunting. Oh now, wait a second, that's not the

621
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: rest of the story. Finally, I kept on him and

622
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: talk to him, to him, everything's okay, honest mistake. I'm

623
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: to blame as much as as you are. And uh,

624
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: I made him go turkey hunting again. Really, so you

625
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: kind of like stuck with him and mentored him through it.

626
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Not mentored him, but and he was older than I was,

627
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: and I was a kid back there. I wasn't like

628
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: I think it was like two years after I got

629
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: shot the first around. Hell, it might have been eighteen

630
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: or nineteen when I got shot the first time. The

631
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: second time, I was I can't remember, somewhere between eighteen

632
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: and twenty five somewhere. And he's still around now, he's

633
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: passed away. M hmm. But he went back turkey hunting again,

634
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: How did it, like, at what point did you at

635
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: what point in the getting shot? Like when did the

636
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: tables turn? You know what I mean? Like did you immediately?

637
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, so you imagine that someone accidentally shoots you

638
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: and they rush over to comfort you, Like, how quickly

639
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: did it become that that You're like, oh, uh, he's

640
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: hurt more than I am. Immediately almost because he's on

641
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: the ground and he's holding his chest and he's crying.

642
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I mean he comes to

643
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: me immediately whenever I screamed, and then he comes to me.

644
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: And when he gets right there on me, I stand up.

645
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: He falls down to his knees. He's got his head

646
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: buried in his hands, sobbing, you know, apologizing, and I'm going,

647
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm fine. You know, it's stung a little bit. You

648
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: know that I've been here before. Yeah, yeah, hell, let's second.

649
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Tell what he did do? Though? It made me go

650
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: find some private land to hunt. Well, if you're you

651
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: told me a very important lesson my gobling the woods.

652
00:39:47,239 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: It took twice, but it finally got through. Hit us

653
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: with that gobl again. Wait a second, I don't really

654
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: stand how you doing that? Pretty amazing. It comes and goes.

655
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: Now at my age, that's halfway decent. That's pretty interesting.

656
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: Let me teach you. I don't know, man, Yes, well

657
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: we got some other instructing to do. But yeah, okay,

658
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: let me okay, can we get into right. We'll do

659
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: what we'll do. Lesson number one now okay, lesson number

660
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: one is real, sep say the word al now say

661
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: it inhaling air. Oh there you go. Oh kind of man.

662
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: We'll get a sore throat squeezed to get it. I

663
00:40:51,000 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: need the foundation. That's the foundation. It hurts. Oh, it's owl.

664
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: And then what in all inhale? All inhale? You're in

665
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: your inhale when you do that? Yes, can you see

666
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: it again? Oh? Nice? Yeah, wagged that tongue, Jannie. Similar

667
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: like when I do an elk bark I inhale, you

668
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: can gobble. Yanni's a gifted. He's given that. Hey, Yanni,

669
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: show show him the way off people. This is elk

670
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: way off. Yeah, otherwise known as a whistle. That's where

671
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I don't know if I want to

672
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: walk way over there? Oh, oh, somehow there's like a

673
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: pop in there a little bit. What's on that it strong,

674
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: and then I'm relaxed. Your larynx is a rubber band.

675
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: This is the analogy I'm gonna use here. How my

676
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: voice now is starting to get a little deeper. I've

677
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: stretched mind so much I can't do it like what

678
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: I used to could do it, and it's not dependable.

679
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: But it's like I'm stretching that rubber band and then

680
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm letting off of it, and I'm using my tongue too.

681
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: He even gets that microphone shaking. Uh, how did how

682
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: did how did it come to be? How did you

683
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: wind up on let him in doing Turkey Colling well

684
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: on O from the nineteen fifty three I was hatched

685
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: when I popped out of my MoMA and the baby

686
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: doctor grabbed me by my hind legs and hit me

687
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: on the hine instead of crying, That's what I did.

688
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: Some say that was Thanksgiving Day. I'm an old competition caller. Yeah,

689
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: I even see that. You were the champ of champs.

690
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: That's the hell of I've held all five different world championships,

691
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: some of them multiple times, State, regional, district, Grand, National, National,

692
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: That's what I did. That was that was my sport.

693
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: Can you make any money doing that. But you don't

694
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: make money that you don't there's like a purse that

695
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: you win, right, well, yes and no. Oh, so there's

696
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: like a big prize money. You know. I didn't mean

697
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: like all the ancillary industry and all that expertise, but

698
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like, here's the money because you won, uh,

699
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: like the World Championship at one point in time, pay

700
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars first place. Okay, so uh when I started,

701
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,479
Speaker 1: you were lucky. If you get your entry phase back

702
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: and maybe a shotgun and some of the guys now

703
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: all are like the n wtf um you used to

704
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: have the big purse five four three? Do you want? Okay? Here,

705
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: let me hit you with some of these credentials. So

706
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: you've won. I can't believe it's just made things to win. Oh,

707
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: it's a sport. Yeah. I mean if you were like

708
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: a rodeo guy, you couldn't generate a list of winds

709
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: like this. It used to be a giant the World

710
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: Turkey Calling Contest, the World Natural Voice turkey Calling Contest.

711
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: Then here's like tag Team turkey Calling, the World two

712
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: man Team turkey Calling contest. Like your throat gets so

713
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: sorry you tag your buddy, Now you're doing a scenario.

714
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: Oh why aren't we through that? The two man team

715
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: is basically they will give you a scene like you're

716
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: walking down another logging Can we do it? Because I

717
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: want to do it with you and Yanni? Oh lord,

718
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: this is hard. We practice this stuff. You got practice, Okay.

719
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: I want you to play both parts and Steve will

720
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: give you the scene. No, yeah, but give me a scenario.

721
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: Give me like an example of a scene. I'm walking

722
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: down the logging road in South Alabama is late uh

723
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: in the season. Birds have been hammered pretty hard. You

724
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: locate the bird uh with some type of a locator call,

725
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: and then you commenced to call the bird in required calls,

726
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: clucks and purrs, cutting other hen turkey, scratching in the leaves.

727
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: I didn't bring my flapping scratch something some one of

728
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: the people, one of the two men is playing the guy. Whatever. Whatever,

729
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: You worked the scenario out between the two collars. My

730
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: team member, for example, in a couple of a couple

731
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: of times I wanted was Chris Parrish. My team member

732
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: might do a PV A woodpecker in the bird, not gobble.

733
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: So you gotta take it from the tip o. Lord,

734
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: you might have a wood wood duck come whistling overhead,

735
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: and then I might blow a crow call and the

736
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: turkey gobbles to it was up for It's so you're

737
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: really you're responsible for the whole whatever. I like it.

738
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: I like so there's like a semi that drives by

739
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: in the distance. I even broke in one time. I'm

740
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: a little crazy though. It's just okay, all right, let

741
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: me just here. We don't need to do the whole average.

742
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, I just might to provide a couple of things.

743
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: So let's do let's do this. Okay, So wood duck

744
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: flies by, Um, well, I know how my wood duck

745
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 1: whistle call. Oh so it's not okay, so you're allowed

746
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: to bring up, but how do you know what to

747
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: bring because you don't know the scenario. Well, you know

748
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: what the scenario is ahead of time, and then the

749
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: two guys get together. You're oh, so you can rehearse.

750
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like im no no, no

751
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: no no. It might be the day of the contest.

752
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: They gave it. So that way you can kind of

753
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: round up what you need. For example, here's a real

754
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: quick Oh you ought to hear this guy. I'm not dude,

755
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: you haven't heard this guy. You do a better one

756
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: and night when you're into it. I can do a

757
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: good crow. Okay, do crow? No, you got a great

758
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh you're not bringing it my little, My little role

759
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: at the end is I've I've forgotten it or lost

760
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: it or something. But I can't have been that role.

761
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: He's just not feeling it because he's not out the woods.

762
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: He can rip one. And by the way, you're supposed

763
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: to play attention to this. I know you and you

764
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: play so No, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.

765
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: But Yanny, go ahead. He's being bashful. He gobbles. I

766
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: tissed it? What's it? What do you do do now? Nothing?

767
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: Moments labor A truck rolls by. Well all right, ah,

768
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: oh this is my part man, listen to mine, and

769
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: he goes. I want to hear that one again, like

770
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: that drumm. Now when I'm trying to paint the picture

771
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to paint, is I have a hent? First?

772
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: She cut, try to get excited. He did not respond.

773
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: I came back with soft calling, clucking, pern seftie up,

774
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: and then I threw a drum in there. So I'm

775
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: painting the picture in the turkey that I'm hunting that

776
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: there is a hen, but she has a non responsive

777
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: with her. So you'll you will make a you will

778
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: mimic something that happens in nature. You'll mimic a drum

779
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: to get a gobbler worked up. Oh god, yes, that's

780
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: one of my favorite calls. One again, m hmm. I've

781
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: never uh have you? Have you like encountered people doing that?

782
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: Very few? No, And I'm surprised that we haven't heard

783
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: that guys uck? Well who says, Hello, who's guys uck?

784
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: He used to compete against you? Hello? Back? Uh, you

785
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: might have whooped him, He might have whooped you. I

786
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,959
Speaker 1: don't know it, don't mater. I haven't gotten a third

787
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: the way through all your credentials. Let me put it

788
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 1: to you like this, nobody else will ever get the

789
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: chance to you. Quit. I'm retired, hung up your spur.

790
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: That's right, so to speak. That's right. I don't have

791
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: to prove it to anybody else anymore. And the guy's

792
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: out there a lot better than me right now. Tell

793
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: people what that when he's drumming and spitting there. Tell

794
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: people what the birds are actually doing human terminology. No

795
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: just like explained like what he's like the noise, like

796
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: you made the noise. Explain that noise displaying or he's

797
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: in full strut. He's blown up, is basically what he is.

798
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: He's trying to make an impression on that hen that

799
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm the prettiest mail that you've ever seen. And I

800
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: want to make love to you. I want to breathe you.

801
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. And by just drumming

802
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: and not gobbling. And since the bird that I'm hunting

803
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: is vocal, and if you heard when I did to

804
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: collucking purrs and I drummed, he gobbled. So now I've

805
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: playing that picture in his mind there's a dude over

806
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: there trying to steal his girlfriend. But I mean, I

807
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: want you to tell people how the bird makes that noise.

808
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anybody has ever truly figured

809
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: it out with or it's coming from the body or

810
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: coming from the mouth. I think it's coming from the

811
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: actual from the mouth itself. I think because he's also

812
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: beating his wings, you know, on the ground. Well, now

813
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: that's a whole total different sound that where the wingtips

814
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 1: are dragon, I think it's coming from inside of the body,

815
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: and I still think it's coming from the actual mouth itself.

816
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: He might be sucking in there. I don't know. I'm

817
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: not done that research. Mike Chamberlain, what about Mike Chamberlin

818
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: and tell us, well, I'm sucked into the story now,

819
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: So where do you go from here? So you you're

820
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: telling this turkey that's on the approach that there's a

821
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: male competing for a female and he better get over here.

822
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,959
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna gobble. I'm gonna continue my yelping if

823
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: he gobbles. For example, you find um, okay, that's the

824
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: one that you're hunting. That's one I'm hunting. Okay, okay,

825
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: But in the scenario, there's no okay in a two

826
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: man turkey calling scenario, there's no human. You're supposed to

827
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: be doing like birds, communicating to birds. You're not replicating

828
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: a hunter. Well, one is the hunter, yes, and one

829
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: is the bird that I'm after. I got you, So

830
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: we're I thought you're you're creating an entirely natural scenario

831
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 1: of how this might play out between two turkeys. No, no, no,

832
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Well, we're trying to harvest the birds.

833
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: What we're trying to do in the two man and

834
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: usually one person is primarily the bird that you're hunting,

835
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: and one person is the hunter, but sometimes they get

836
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: together also. It just depends on what I'm trying to accomplish.

837
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: So really it's a it's a test of how two

838
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: people can sort of like their vocabulary of natural noises,

839
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: including turkey sounds, and how they might create the cadence

840
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: and calls response. Give me a county back in the

841
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: background that could be an elk buglint, even though that

842
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: doesn't happen that time of year, but it's still painting

843
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: that picture, you know. And they do do these weird

844
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: little bugles in the spring. You have your partner get

845
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: real excited and then make a fly down noise and

846
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: then shut like the next two and a half hour,

847
00:53:47,800 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: let's fly down. What's a tree column? Yeh m? All right?

848
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: Did you hit the ground? Ah? Okay? Let me telling

849
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: me the best thing to do right here, I'm what

850
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of loss where we're at? If he is progressively

851
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: now starting to move towards you and is gobbling that much,

852
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what the best thing to do with this

853
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: turkey collar is put in your pocket spit it. I

854
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: shut up. You've done enough. All you can do is

855
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: educating a little bit more. Now let me keep painting

856
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: the scene on your credentials. So the World Man, the

857
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: World two Man, the World two Man Team Turken Calling Contest,

858
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: the World Gobbling Turkey Calling Contest, the World All Call

859
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: Turkey Calling Contest. You're the only man to a little

860
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: person to hold five different world titles. Other wins include

861
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: seven National champion ships, nine National champ of Champs, the

862
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: US Gobbling Champion, the Grand National Gobbling Champion, and Grand

863
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: National Champ of Champs. Blind Hog finds an acre every

864
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: down again, what's the Champ of Champs? It's like a

865
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: world that's like it's like nationals. Uh, like the World

866
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Champions Champions, all the Grand Nationally m WTF Grand National

867
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: Champione Champions is only open to the former national or

868
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: Grand National winners. So it's like if there's six or

869
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: seven World champions there, six or seven Grand National Champions there,

870
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: they'll duke it out. We duke it out and you

871
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: won that. So you beat you went in and but

872
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: you went in and beat the whoever had accrued previous wins.

873
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Is there like in the in the turkey call in

874
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: the world. Um, do you guys all remain chummy or

875
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: there like legitimate rivalries where people stop liking each other.

876
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: I like everybody, so he doesn't get ugly. He doesn't

877
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: get ugly, like where you honestly don't like somebody another caller,

878
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: like a professional rivalry. I come from the old days.

879
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: And uh, let's see if you recognize this name, Ben

880
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: Rogers Lee. He is the anyway, he's the father. Okay.

881
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: Basically what it breaks down to the turkey colling, to

882
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: publicizing and so on and so forth. Please do a

883
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: little research and educate him on that. Okay. Uh, there

884
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: are people who don't like other people. Yes, I didn't

885
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: mean like that. Like, I didn't mean it that way.

886
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: I meant I don't mean that you don't like them.

887
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: But is it when you guys get together, are you

888
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: all sitting at the same table. The vast majority yes,

889
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: it says it stays friendly. I'll sit down and have

890
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: a beer with Chris Parrish or whoever it may be.

891
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: You know, at any point in time, and I have

892
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: this saying, especially now, pass it on. Please pass it on. Uh.

893
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: And I encourage any and of the competition callers are

894
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: willing to help someone else, so it's a lot more positive,

895
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: but very few. Now there's some that might not show

896
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: you their call because it's their quote secret cut like

897
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: in their diaphragm, and they don't want everybody else to

898
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: get it. Yes, that goes on, but that's about the extent,

899
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: you know. So you won one of these. And then

900
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: someone from a producer from David Letterman was like, I

901
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: need to get this guy on the show. Actually kind

902
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: of like who was it who called? Clay's the one

903
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: who called, I believe UH called the n w TS

904
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: National Wild Turkey Federation, and uh, they set a lot

905
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: of this stuff up, whether it was Letterman, Leno, Rigis

906
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: and Kelly and all the craft that I've done, it

907
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: basically all came through U n WTF. And at one

908
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: point in time, while Turkey Bourbon was a sponsor of

909
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: the adult divisions, like the first time that I did Letterman, Um,

910
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember the young ladies know, but it was

911
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: her father was the head brewer of Wild Turkey Bourbon

912
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: uh in Canada, and uh she basically flew as alien. Yeah,

913
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: and UH took care of everything. But ninety of it

914
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: has been from been from the n WTF that basically

915
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: people would get in contact with them and ask about

916
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: people and I think I didn't let them in three

917
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: times something like that. Do you recognize though, I feel

918
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: like I've seen some of those segments. I'm sure you

919
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: have there not laughing with you. Maybe I don't care,

920
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: see that. That's the difference between me and a lot

921
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: of people. I don't care if you laugh with me

922
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: or you laugh at me. Just laugh and enjoy life

923
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: is too damn short, and not to enjoy it because

924
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: they like, you go on there and they're kinda ain't no,

925
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: kind of too And I know exactly when I'm getting

926
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: into Yeah, they don't. They don't care about calling in turkeys.

927
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, no. But it's like, but it's like

928
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: a thing. It's like it's a thing that's really hard

929
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: to do, right, It's like it's exceptionally hard to do

930
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: and you dedicate your whole life to it. But then

931
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: it's like, look at that dumb redneck. I don't care.

932
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: That's good. Well, I mean you look at it. This

933
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: one football, basketball, baseball, ice hockey, whatever it may be.

934
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: Turkey colling is a legitimate sport. I mean literally whenever

935
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: I was actively competing in all over the country. I

936
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: worked out every single solitary day. I was practicing every day,

937
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: even whenever I was working on the way to work lunchtime,

938
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: after I got off of work, I was practicing. I

939
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: was working out, I headed down to where I had

940
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: calls tune to a small room like this, to a

941
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: open room, to a metal covered room. You say, calls

942
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: tuned to those things? Really, yes, Like what's gonna sound

943
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: good in the studio? What's gonna sound good? And huh

944
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: there you go? Do you have, um, do you have

945
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: like a pretty finely trained ear? You know, like, do

946
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: you hear do you feel that you hear music different

947
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: than people hear music? Or I'm not going to say music,

948
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: but I do on uh turkey calling, because now mostly

949
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: what I do and I try to get out of

950
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: as much as I can is um, I judge, and

951
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm literally listening for someone who can sound better than

952
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: a wild turkey. It would absolutely zero mistakes, and that

953
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 1: is very very hard to accomplish because in reality and wildlife,

954
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: sometimes your worst sounding caller is a he in herself

955
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: and she'll miss a note. Do notes. What you would

956
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: say is backwards what written. Maybe it was just kind

957
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: of like getting your tongue and then being able to

958
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: talk just like a human. Maion. The other day we

959
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: were on a previous episode, we were playing funny like

960
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: a natural sounds of very funny sounding turkeys, or like

961
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: a hand who yelps seventy sometimes in a row. Yeah,

962
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever heard that's just never stopped,

963
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't stop, It just doesn't And where was this at?

964
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: Do you remember where that clips on YouTube? I don't

965
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: remember where it was. You just watched your standing. There

966
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: wasn't it? Seventies some yelps in a row? It looks

967
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: like Eastern woods mhm h words. So you were like,

968
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: you're dyslexic? Yes? To how bad? Like to to? Uh?

969
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if cryppling is the right word. But well,

970
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, are you able to sit down and read

971
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: a book now? Yes? Yeah, but it would probably take

972
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: me five times is long to read? As you was

973
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 1: school hard thirteen years to graduate when it's supposed to

974
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: take you to half Yeah, nobody knew what it was,

975
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 1: but what do they think it was? We're trying? Oh

976
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: you're dumb, yeah, you know, and and and may I

977
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: interject here if if you have a child that has

978
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: that problem, you know now they recognize that they know

979
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: about it and know how to treat it and know

980
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: how to help people. Please get them help. Uh you

981
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 1: like you had, you were like stigmatized as not being

982
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: bright correct. I ain't got no book learning. I mean,

983
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: words will flip and I've learned how to combat it

984
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: on my own. But letters and words will flip on me.

985
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: I will still do certain. I'm liable to right to

986
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: say backwards. But it's only in reading right, like it's

987
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: not in speaking. Speaking doesn't bother me. So you when

988
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: you're reading, you'll read, so say it doesn't it doesn't switch.

989
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: I cannot speil. Learning to spell always remains difficult when

990
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: you dyslexic. I can't spell with me right now today.

991
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean I can spell some words, but thank God

992
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: for that phone. You know how do you? How do

993
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: you spell sasparilla? You know what? I just? Do you have?

994
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: Do you have siblings? I have one child. I have

995
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 1: three step boulders, all of them girls. You have brothers

996
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: and sisters? I have one brother? Was he older? Younger?

997
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 1: He's older? So he was smart? And you weren't. That

998
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: was like the way they just think. I'm gonna give

999
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: Cloude Pittman that compliment. You're crazy. Yes, he was very smart.

1000
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: Uh um trying to move the right. His name is

1001
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: Claude Cloud Yes. Uh, he's ten years older than I am. Ah,

1002
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: that's a big spread between two kids. Oops. Yeah, I'm

1003
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you that story. But anyway, and uh,

1004
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: and as you're growing up, your dad had uh my

1005
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: dad was a fight for the plumber. But three heart attacks.

1006
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, he had four heart attacks, one stroke, and

1007
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 1: the fifth heart attack killed him. What age are you

1008
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: when that was growing on going on? I would have

1009
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: been in my twenties, late twenties. Was he a turkey hunter?

1010
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: Was not? Claude? No, he wouldn't walk across the street

1011
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: for the biggest buck of the biggest turkey. But if

1012
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: you give it, he was a drafts one, that's what

1013
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 1: he was. Uh. If you gave him a basket full

1014
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: of parts to put an automobile or a car together, Uh,

1015
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: I mean our a motorcycle, he's your man. And that

1016
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: was his hobby. Uh. Like I said, primarily he was

1017
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: a draft one in Texas who got you into it?

1018
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: Then here we go back in the old days. We

1019
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: had families. I get to preach. I get to stand

1020
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: on my little right now. We had families that did

1021
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: things together. There were no cell phones. It was not

1022
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: the internet. Uh. It was families getting together and doing

1023
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: things together. And they had a little day in Carthridge, Mississippi,

1024
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: the fourth of July celebration. And at that celebration they

1025
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: had a turkey calling contest, a duck calling contest. I

1026
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: hat you throwing contests, archery contest, get contest, uh, Greece

1027
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: peg contest, Greece pole, old time country day competitive, bunch

1028
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: of them. Here you go. Figure that one out. Uh.

1029
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: And my family took me there and I was, oh yeah.

1030
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: In a fishing rodeo, I was twelve years old and

1031
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: I won the fishing rodeo and found out I was

1032
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: two years too old. It stopped at age ten. And

1033
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: I now, don't get this wrong. My dad was a

1034
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: great hunter. When he was a bird hunter, coil back

1035
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: when we had coil in the South, and dearer hunter.

1036
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: He was a dog man. What was we had a

1037
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: thing in our quail since nineteen sixty two? Down three,

1038
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: it's a that's stunning man. How about I think it's

1039
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: like a national declining quail, since it's no doubt, there's

1040
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, sorry, we're going Okay. I met a

1041
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: general by the name of Jack Dudley who was a

1042
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: natural voice caller and at that point in time was

1043
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: the state champion, and it was like competition, Turkey Colin,

1044
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: I love the Hunt. I'm gonna meet this guy, and

1045
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 1: I was kind of like a little leech. I attached

1046
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: myself to him, and he meant towards me and brought

1047
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: me up to the point to where through telephone and

1048
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: him doing some very small you know, instructional like the gunner,

1049
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: real sportsman, his club, Turkey Hunt is just starting to

1050
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 1: be talked about. Okay. I see I graduated in sev

1051
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: it would have been in the late sixties, mid to

1052
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: late sixties is where it would have been. App and uh,

1053
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: I learned we've been after voice and at that point

1054
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: in time, if I heard as saying, give me enough

1055
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: time and I could reproduce it. I can't do it anymore, though,

1056
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: So don't don't go there with me. I'll be throwing

1057
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: up on your mic. Uh. I came back at the

1058
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: age sixteen, and I didn't have junior contests, and you

1059
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: said the Mississippi State Turkey College Championship. And when I

1060
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: walked off the stage, I was a state champion. All

1061
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: the old farts like, I'm an old fart right now,

1062
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: it's going. Where did that little ship come from? What

1063
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: you were sixteen? Sixteen years from? How old are you

1064
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: when you killed your first turkey? Nine? Oh? I see,

1065
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: so you didn't that. So I was curious about you

1066
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: didn't um, you didn't go like turkey calling. You didn't

1067
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: go turkey calling turkey hunting. You went turkey hunting, turkey calling,

1068
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: but you were already interested in turkeys. And the first

1069
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: bird that I ever killed, the statue of limitation should

1070
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: have been gone by then, was illegal. God forgive me,

1071
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: everybody forgive me. I've done some things that I shouldn't

1072
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: have done in my younger days, but I got up

1073
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: when you're nine years old? Everybody does. I got my

1074
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: ask to wark to you. Uh. At thirteen, I started

1075
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 1: trying to turkey hunt. We'll tell you about the one

1076
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: you got in your nine just out of season or yeah, okay,

1077
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you everything. I mean, no one's

1078
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: gonna no one's gonna hold that that's more of a

1079
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: parent that's more of a parenting issue than I got

1080
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: my rear end because of that. Uh but at thirteen

1081
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: I started trying to a turkey hunt. Fourteen I was

1082
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: somewhat of a turkey hunter. Fifteen I'm beginning to think

1083
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm a turkey hunter. Sixteen I win the state championship.

1084
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: Uh man, I'm a turkey hunter. God was so wrong.

1085
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even have the foundation lay good this that

1086
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: about the time you think you've got her figure it out,

1087
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: you die got it. It's a lifetime, it's ever evolving.

1088
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: I still learn stuff, if not every day, every season,

1089
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: give me a um, give me a turkey hunting tip,

1090
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: whether whether it involves calling or not. Like if you're

1091
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, you know, looking back on life, I

1092
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 1: realize the most important thing that I have learned in

1093
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: my career is to pay attention to what is going

1094
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: on around you, not only with your eyes, but more

1095
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: so with your ears. Your ears can tell you more

1096
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 1: of what is happening then your eyes or anybody else.

1097
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: Are all the YouTube's and everything else it is out

1098
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: there that is available. Example, I'm calling to a bird,

1099
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: he's actively gobbling to me. He's actively getting closer to me.

1100
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: He shuts up. Is he coming or is he going?

1101
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: Because he's doing one of the two things. One rabbit

1102
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: comes running by me real fast. What's going on with

1103
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: the turkey state? No, he's not. Why is he not coming?

1104
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: He spooked him to you sked him and you very much.

1105
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Yes he did. He figured it out. And predator is

1106
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: chasing a predator is there's a good chance fifteen minutes,

1107
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: I think if he doesn't showed up, a predator is

1108
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: chasing is in the area because he's chasing that rabbit.

1109
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: The opposite. The opposite would apply. If two rabbits come by,

1110
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: then one's a male and one's the female, and you

1111
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Holds your ground as long as

1112
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: you need to scratching the leaves a little bit, do

1113
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: a little soft yelp, because he's right behind that big

1114
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: brush over there. Another and the running rabbits are just

1115
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: a breeding pair. Pay attention to that blue jay, that magpie,

1116
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Crows, those are talking to you

1117
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: and telling you what's going on and what's happening in life.

1118
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 1: Just like Clay's trying to get you better with a

1119
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: crow call. You're welcome. Uh, you can pay you for that.

1120
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 1: He paid you for that. No, no, but he bright no,

1121
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: he wanted to do that. Seriously, you can use his

1122
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: crow call right here in turkey hunting. Here's your real

1123
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: quick example. H Why do you guys put it in

1124
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: backwards and flip it. I'm motioning it. That's a diaphragm call.

1125
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: I just said, of singing that gobbler's mind and put

1126
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: a lot more realism into it. But now on, if

1127
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: you notice a helld the crow call up, I am

1128
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: acting as if a crow is aggravating that he in

1129
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 1: turkey down here. It could be done with a coil whistle.

1130
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 1: It could be done with the squirrel just jumping up

1131
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: on the side of the tree and doing a short bark,

1132
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: not a long bark, and not the old fussing, you know,

1133
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,879
Speaker 1: because that means predator. So he's paying attention to everything

1134
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: that's going on around you. We'll only step you ten

1135
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: steps ahead. Colin ain't worried about it. Heck, they can

1136
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: sound like you. Oh I've proven that, dude, Yeah you have.

1137
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: They got no. Yeah, It's like I've got Clay's digs

1138
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 1: in there. So I'm gonna leave it alone. After that,

1139
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: because I even heard really good callers, really good callers

1140
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: say it's Collins ten percent of the game. Do you

1141
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: think it's higher, Natal, because I've seem like this dude

1142
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: guys uck. There there there situations, This dude guys uck.

1143
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 1: It's really I've never been in the woods. You I'm

1144
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: sure i'd be this the same or better. But this

1145
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: dude guys uck. I don't know, man um, it makes

1146
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: it seem like Collins a way higher than ten percent.

1147
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:53,759
Speaker 1: There are situations, yes, but you give me a good

1148
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: woodsman who has great woodsman ship ability and has the

1149
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 1: basic college of a wild turkey that can go and

1150
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 1: that's all he can do as far as a call,

1151
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: I'll take him ten times over. I will a world

1152
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: champion caller who is strictly into the sport and there's

1153
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: not even that I know, uh, strictly to win a

1154
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: contest and not hunt. I'll take that Wood's been ten

1155
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: times over someone who can call the best in the world.

1156
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: You know, he might take even over that who's is

1157
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: a person that uh lives on a property and has

1158
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: a shipload of trailer cams out because they're like they

1159
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: hear a gobble, like if I'm with my friend Doug

1160
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 1: on his place. Guy, he's trumped around the st patch

1161
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: ground his entire life. Right. I hear gobble and I'm like, oh,

1162
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: it's over yonder dogs, Like, oh, you know where that is.

1163
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: He's standing by that one tree that he usually goes

1164
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: snarre over that other tree. Yes, let's run over there, right,

1165
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is that good turkey hunting? Is that

1166
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: just survey? That's the new young farts? Mm hmm. I'm

1167
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: not saying it's by that. I'm not saying that. I

1168
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's bad. It's just different. It's there, you go,

1169
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: it's different. But I feel like, but by a second,

1170
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: now you have impressed me as an outdoors one. You

1171
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: have impressed me as someone who understands whitsmanship. What has

1172
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 1: that person who is strictly relying on their cameras, what

1173
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: have they learned? Well? I think that they have the joy.

1174
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 1: I think that they feel the joy of discovery the

1175
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: same way that I would feel the joy of discovery.

1176
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 1: I think that they like that they're they're finding things

1177
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: out that in the process pleases them. That makes you

1178
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: wanna get your turkey call out, that makes you just

1179
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: want to shut up. That's fine, that's not my way. Yeah,

1180
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to steal their humanity. That's fine. I'm

1181
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: being nice. I'm not saying I wouldn't use that. No,

1182
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: but you bet your tongue metaphorically to the point where

1183
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: you almost put your turkey call in h You're like,

1184
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: the only way to not reply is for my turkey

1185
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: call in my mouth. Get uh, get Samantha. Uh. I

1186
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 1: want you to get her. You can, you can get

1187
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: anyway to make a call a sound. Now, Okay, we're

1188
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna do something sweet hard, don't you do

1189
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: my favor? I want you to lean your head backwards

1190
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: and open up your mouth and let me look inside

1191
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: your mouth. Oh okay, now you know what I'm doing. Chicken,

1192
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: she's got tonsils. I am seeing the size of the

1193
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,520
Speaker 1: roof of her mouth. The one major problem that adults

1194
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: have is that a frame or a turkey call is

1195
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: too large. Okay, there are frames that are small, frame

1196
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: calls that was set up into the roof of your mouth.

1197
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: Do you want to try the hardest thing that there is,

1198
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: which is a diaphragm. No, that's what we're here for. Okay, Well,

1199
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 1: I want to understand first what the diaphragm calls for. Specifically, Okay,

1200
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: the diaphragm calls what you see me right here with Yes,

1201
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,640
Speaker 1: it is an app Put that sucker down. It is

1202
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: an apparatus. He wants to get you one out of

1203
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 1: that chew ten, He's guy. There, Now are the holy grail? Uh?

1204
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: The object is is for that call to become part

1205
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: of the roof of your mouth. Do not swallow. It

1206
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: hurts when it goes down. It hurts words when it

1207
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: comes out. Oh yes, you got them stuck in your throat.

1208
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: Oh yes, huh man, I've never even come close to that.

1209
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: They think I must be not trying hard. I'll say

1210
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: it hurts worse when it comes out when it goes down,

1211
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: So be very careful. Have you ever played with a

1212
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: diaphragm before a little bit? Don't you throw all that away? Okay?

1213
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: One that taught me. I don't care what do you say?

1214
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: Throw it all away, like all this prior knowledge, all

1215
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: the bad habits. I gotta grab something. He's gonna grab

1216
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: a palate extender. Okay, he just produced the bottle of water.

1217
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: That's that's for something a little bit later. That's your

1218
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 1: that's your choo spit bottle? How many more of those

1219
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: you got in there? I have one, let me see one.

1220
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: I just want to follow along. He's rummaging through a bag,

1221
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 1: dig and Diaphragm calls out. It's like Mary Poppins. We

1222
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: don't know how how far the bag goes a fall

1223
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: crystal lamp shad. He's got a tooth, He's got a

1224
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: toothbrush in that bag. He's got a giant sack of calls.

1225
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: All right, so Sam gets a bright, new shiny package. Call.

1226
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: The first thing I want you to do, say the

1227
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: word chuck, chuck, chuck. Say it again, check, say it's

1228
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: third time. Say it now when you say it the

1229
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 1: fourth time? Want you to tell me where the tip

1230
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 1: of your tongue is at chuck it? Where's it at

1231
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: the roof of my mouth? It was not put down.

1232
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: Take the tip of your tongue and put up in

1233
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 1: the roof of your mouth and try to say chuck.

1234
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: And so it's like behind my teeth, right at the bottom,

1235
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: behind your teeth. Can you feel how your tongue has

1236
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 1: a curvature to it? You're right, yeah, chuck, yeah, chuck.

1237
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell where your tongue is. It's hard

1238
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 1: to describe where your tongue sits. You know, it's not

1239
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: like an out of me. He's of an amy focus. Now,

1240
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 1: what I don't want you to do is I want

1241
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 1: you to go, not saying the word, but go chu

1242
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: chuck push some are out there, you go? There you go.

1243
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: Now I want this frame is too big for me.

1244
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: I can solve that. That might be a little bit large,

1245
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: but just the way I want to go in the

1246
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: roof of your mouth. Now I want you to do.

1247
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: Keep going. Push it up a little bit tighter in

1248
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: my mouth, I remember in my mouth. Yes, you wo

1249
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: are to go in between the tongue and the collar. Okay,

1250
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: you see how your mouth is kind of open? I

1251
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 1: cast it. Okay, y'all, her mouth is a little bit open.

1252
01:21:55,439 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 1: Try to narrow it a little bit more. Oh I

1253
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: had I had my tongue in the wrong plasure. Okay,

1254
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: but you're well on your way right there. You do

1255
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: this for me. Oh you're gonna spit and be liable

1256
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: to choke, and you're liable to do everything else just

1257
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 1: for the fune. Okay, there you go here? How you

1258
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: getting you're making a higher note? Think of the kid

1259
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: that has gotten a piece of balloon, y'all, and I'm

1260
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: holding this, I guess he was horizontally on each end

1261
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: and stretching it. The more that he or she will stretching,

1262
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 1: the higher the note. Now let's taking the mind and

1263
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: if I move that vertically, that's what you're doing with

1264
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: your tongue. You're stretching that piece of rubber. The basic

1265
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: kend note is a two note, a high and low

1266
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: yelp yep, yep, yep. So you're That's the reason why

1267
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: I use the analogy of the word chuck, because it

1268
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: starts out with your the mid part of your tongue

1269
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 1: on the collar and then comes off of it. You

1270
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: may even drop your jaw slightly if you are losing air,

1271
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 1: and you are losing air on the side, press and

1272
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: throw that in into an exaggerated version what you're talking about.

1273
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: Let's slow down mm hmm, just for the phone of it.

1274
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: This is not a real good beginner's call. Not a

1275
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: good beginner call. When I got in my hand, see

1276
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: if that feels more comfortable, It might be easier, it

1277
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: might be harder as a lot smaller. Correct, where is

1278
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: it supposed to sit in my mouth open the roof

1279
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: of your mouth. I think that call is gonna be

1280
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: too Let's go back to the other. Okay, everyone small ones.

1281
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: You actually sounded good. I'll get it after people use them.

1282
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: I usually to give him a comple minutes and I

1283
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: feel like everything died. But it's not warm anymore. We

1284
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:35,720
Speaker 1: can survive that h on my tongue up in the

1285
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: roof of my mouth. Correct, you go pump that tone

1286
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: and drop that job? Am I still saying chuck? Basically,

1287
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 1: it will evolve saying once you understand it, once you

1288
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: get to feel of it. I never I've never, I

1289
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: want to point out, I've never taught anyone in my

1290
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: life to even try. But I remember um that I

1291
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: think someone has explained the chuck thing because like, uh,

1292
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: you have to move your mouth, your mouth and or

1293
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: either drop your jaw. Yeah, And that's like a hard

1294
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: right because you're so focused on like holding that thing there.

1295
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: You got like your jaws moving around, and I thought

1296
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 1: that you weren't supposed to move your mouth. No, but

1297
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 1: that's what it was hard. That was like a thing

1298
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: for me when I was first get was like I

1299
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: don't understand because I can't, like I can't move my mouth,

1300
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: so I'm holding the damn thing. Some people can't. It's

1301
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: a confusing guy. If you need to drop your jaw.

1302
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: This reason why I was saying, drop your jaw. That

1303
01:25:48,479 --> 01:26:07,680
Speaker 1: helps you get that second note. There's a note. I

1304
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: think it's hard because yeah, I feel like you have

1305
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: to hold everything together. But then you're also how do

1306
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: you drop your jaw and keep your time every time

1307
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,920
Speaker 1: you talk? Watch me, I'm talking to you right now,

1308
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: aren't I look at my job. It's not my jaw

1309
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 1: dropping right now, it definitely, but you're not holding this

1310
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 1: in your mouth. Who do I get another one? Try

1311
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: that quite little stack Christmas? Now, before you've asked, you

1312
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: just played the piano. I just handed you a trumpet. Well,

1313
01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: I could have handed you a trombone or a set

1314
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: of drums or whatever. What I'm telling you are different

1315
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 1: calls are made by all manufacturers different ways to produce

1316
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: a particular sound. And I compare it to music because

1317
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 1: that is a musical instrument that you have in your mouth.

1318
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: Try the yellow call well real quick. So they have

1319
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: different shapes. The tape on the exterior part is the same.

1320
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: I had you a basic double readed Nick call. I

1321
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: now handed you my favorite call. That is a three

1322
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:17,719
Speaker 1: weed batwing with a point in zero zero three thousands

1323
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: rubber on it. And I won't tell you the stretch.

1324
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: That's my secret. I to put the call in your mouth,

1325
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: just go, now go. Is that call sealed in the

1326
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: roof of your mouth? It looks to me like he's

1327
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: floating all over the place. To push it up to

1328
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: the roof of your mouth. Now, you probably need to

1329
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: cut that call down a little bit. Oh h yeah,

1330
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 1: like no air, No, oh, that goes Like I said,

1331
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 1: the air goes in between the tongue. There you go.

1332
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 1: You don't want present, you don't want any error to

1333
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: ride over the top of the call has to be

1334
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,839
Speaker 1: funneled between the tongue and the call. I was told

1335
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: that it shouldn't be in the roof of the mouth. No,

1336
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 1: it goes yea yeah. I mean I have seen people

1337
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 1: clamping in their teeth. I don't like that way, and

1338
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: they're limited and actually get it always out of it.

1339
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the Indian seem they used to

1340
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:34,680
Speaker 1: peach leaves, you know, like awesome, don't drop it quite

1341
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: as much. Hey, go and I do that quickly. Not

1342
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: quite there? You go, go, go, go, go, go, give

1343
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: me fifting the loaves in a row, give me seventy seven. Okay,

1344
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 1: on your way. Think about this, if I told you

1345
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 1: look just right here, or if I open my mouth

1346
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: up a little bit more, Hi, try to talk on

1347
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 1: my hlide open. I'm not funneling the air over the collar.

1348
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: You can create a sound chamber with your mouth. So

1349
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 1: you are constantly opening your mouth up completely. You're letting

1350
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 1: the air escape around the collar. Now that you've learned

1351
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: to sell it, learned to use your mouth, don't do

1352
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: anything else but a yep period until you can put

1353
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: that call in your mouth or either one of those

1354
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: calls in your mouth, and do exactly what you want

1355
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: to do. Don't start trying to learn how to clock,

1356
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: how to pray, how to fly and cackle, how to

1357
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 1: keep a bull crap. Build your base foundation. Just like

1358
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 1: a human being can use one word and say three

1359
01:29:55,439 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: totally different things. I can go okay, all right, I

1360
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: can go Hi, all right, I can go hey. You

1361
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: can do that all with one sound, just like a

1362
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: human can do it all with one word. So just

1363
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: get comfortable to learn how to get the sound uh

1364
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: right each time. You can go to the internet. Don't

1365
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 1: think you gotta copy somebody, but they'll give you that rhythm. Hey, presty,

1366
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: can you be a favorite the hey hey? Things interesting

1367
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: to me? Can you give me the yelp equivalent of

1368
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: each hay? Okay, I'll do the hey hey. Then there's

1369
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: he and then there's uh. How do you don't go?

1370
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: It's like a seductive It's like a seductive hey, like, Hey,

1371
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 1: that's seductive. That's been kind of gets hand to put

1372
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: body into it. That's a string. But Kenny walking down

1373
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: the beaches of Florida, let me hear with that one again.

1374
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at her? Huh or him? Are

1375
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: there more? Haz that's your three basis. That's three basic

1376
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: So if you if you really learn one thing, like

1377
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: if if Sam's gonna learn one thing, she should learn

1378
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 1: that the basic foundation of everything, like I told her.

1379
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: Until until you can put pick up a collar, put

1380
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: a collar in your mouth, whatever it may be, Until

1381
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 1: you learn control over that collar, that that collar is

1382
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 1: doing exactly what you wanted to do. You do not

1383
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: need to move on and try to learn either a

1384
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 1: different collar and or either a different sound. You build upon.

1385
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: That's what you do because in reality, that basic hand

1386
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: yep is the most heard note I said, heard by

1387
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 1: human beings. Note that his Actually, you don't hear all

1388
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: the crazy noises they're making when they walk through the woods.

1389
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: You don't hear the soft stuff. My favorite type of

1390
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 1: calling is what I call very relaxed. That little we

1391
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:33,640
Speaker 1: we were one is one of the weirdest noises. Yeah,

1392
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 1: but I'm totally relaxed. There's no aggression, there's no predators here.

1393
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm not excited. Uh, you're just a turkey. I'm a

1394
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: turkey completely. I'm whispering sweeting nothings into his air. I

1395
01:32:47,680 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: might even occasionally, unlike, mix a little something in there

1396
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 1: with it, just to pump it up, to say, you're

1397
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: the sexiest thing ever sing in my life. Come on

1398
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: over here, I want to date you. I just had

1399
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: a quick question. So if you weren't able to do

1400
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: the diaphragm calls, like this is my second season turkey hunting,

1401
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: very new, what else would I do? Then you could

1402
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: use a box call. You could use a pot call. Uh.

1403
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: Most people would tell you to go with a pot

1404
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 1: call because of this versatility, but for the ease of use,

1405
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 1: I still like a box call really well. I mean,

1406
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: if it's a decent box call, I know, I had

1407
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 1: to paint this picture and I'm gonna slide the lid over,

1408
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: then I won't want to just take one finger. If

1409
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 1: it's a it's a If it's a decent box called

1410
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 1: the box call, it is going to do the work

1411
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: for you. Okay. Most people take a bots call and

1412
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 1: they grab it way too hard, Okay, ma'am. Yeah, I said, yeah,

1413
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. I'm holding the box and

1414
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: just simply taking a finger and moving the lid. That's correct.

1415
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: And you've got a complete year. Now did you hear

1416
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 1: a difference in the sound, so you learn how to play?

1417
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: We'll call this a piano. Now watch the chicks to

1418
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 1: have and listen pass out over the sand. I just

1419
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 1: got more excited and all it is. I put a

1420
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: little bit more pressure on it, and I completed it

1421
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 1: all the way over from the right side to the

1422
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 1: left side. Yeah, play the left play the left side. No,

1423
01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Pick the lead up? What MHM to do?

1424
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 1: The one finger there? You okay, don't pick it up.

1425
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: Don't pick up always look ship. Watch how farm going?

1426
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: You get no eggro on it? Man? Yeah, I'm not

1427
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: coming all the way over here. Perfect perfect, but that'll d.

1428
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: I said, that's perfect, but that'll d. Don't go beyond

1429
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: that yet. If I was scouting for a turkey, what

1430
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 1: would that be like? The noise that I would make

1431
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: to try and find them, I would always start off

1432
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: with a locator call for Now, what that means is

1433
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: is I'd use an all who to crow called pleaded woodpecker. Uh,

1434
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: you get an actual dip out. Now, let's tell everybody

1435
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: no words. I'm going my limit, but I can still

1436
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 1: do anything I need. Well, that's a bit, little one.

1437
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 1: My face mask has a hole cut in it right here,

1438
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: so you spit keeps probably sanitized around the edge. Well, now,

1439
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: whenever he gets in real close and they can't spit,

1440
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: I have been known let it run day. So let

1441
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: me ask you no turkey question. And I want to know,

1442
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 1: can you run a diaphragm with a dip in? That's

1443
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: that's incredible, that's incredible. I should have you on a

1444
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 1: talk show. It might even it might even sound better,

1445
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: it might opens it up a little bit. But I

1446
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 1: do not want any of you kids out there to

1447
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,479
Speaker 1: put this crap in your mind. No, we're telling all time.

1448
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: Maybe you might make the cover of that magazine someday

1449
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 1: de Deficient Auto. Probably if I might to cover that,

1450
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 1: I'd be probably without a lip. Um. I want I

1451
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: want to ask you turkey question, and it has to

1452
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: do with Turkey column. Do the do an alarm? Put? What? Like?

1453
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 1: What is it about? What is it about that? You

1454
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like, what is it about that sound?

1455
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: That's so like, oh, you know when they have other

1456
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: sounds that are like it's just is it like it's isolated.

1457
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: It's sort of like the intensity and isolation of it. Basically, Yeah,

1458
01:37:36,640 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because it's not that different

1459
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 1: from a normal sound. But but you can turn that

1460
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: that if if I had a gobbler sixty yards in

1461
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 1: front of me and a hand came in from the

1462
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 1: left and all of a sudden she puts you know

1463
01:37:53,560 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 1: what I'm gonnaday like, turn it back into something turning

1464
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: into cutting because cutting in a put are so close

1465
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: together you can't hardly tell the difference. Yeah, that's what

1466
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I was getting at. It's like

1467
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 1: it's funny that but it rings in your ear after

1468
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: you hear the couple of times you're like like that's it. Yeah, yeah,

1469
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 1: But then someone's sitting there wouldn't know how disappointed you

1470
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: were unless you told them. Well, I always if something,

1471
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: if the situation happens, if it's a hen, because yeah,

1472
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 1: you're from the at ease, but I'll do it to

1473
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 1: a gobbler if he came then and oh you'll oh yeah,

1474
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: I'll start cutting on top of him, and I'm not

1475
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: liable to even gobble at him on top of his alarm.

1476
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 1: Put it works about one out of every But in

1477
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 1: the other scenario you're talking about, you were basically she's

1478
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 1: gonna she comes in and bust you. It's like that's

1479
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,559
Speaker 1: over with, But you gotta gobbler off in some other direction,

1480
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,760
Speaker 1: and you're trying to put his into ease. But now

1481
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 1: I've turned into a very aggressive hand, even spooking and

1482
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: sometimes purposely to get her out of here so she

1483
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: won't go to it got you? I mean if if, if, if,

1484
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 1: if you've already got your arm around or passed that

1485
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 1: with a are you married before you were married with

1486
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,559
Speaker 1: a good looking girl, and there's another one over honor.

1487
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: Are you gonna leave her and go to her I

1488
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: got everything I want right here. You're married, Yes, I long,

1489
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 1: you've been married about twenty two years. Two. We don't

1490
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: keep up with something like that. Let me see your ring.

1491
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: That's my dad's ring. Yeah, it's jeweled. Always get a

1492
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,679
Speaker 1: little bit of diamonds, and I mean very small diamonds.

1493
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: But I just feel honored to wear. I do want

1494
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 1: to say this. And we started this while ago a

1495
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: little bit. In the old days, families did things together.

1496
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: We went to we went fishing, we went hunting. We

1497
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 1: had an old camp that had no running water that

1498
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: you pumped like that that you used a five gallon

1499
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: bucket to go to the bathroom and went out into

1500
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 1: the woods, you know, and those were great times. My

1501
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,639
Speaker 1: dad was a big hunter, big fisherman, setting trot lines

1502
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: or for flatheads. Um uh. He's one of the few

1503
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: people that I know that on the cove your eyes,

1504
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: I know of him killing three hen quail in his life.

1505
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:38,040
Speaker 1: He would pick out the cocks and shoot the mails only. Um.

1506
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: We were big deer dog hunters back then. When I

1507
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: was a kid, my mama went with us. It was

1508
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: a family outing. My thanksgivings, my Christmas is, uh, we're

1509
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: spending the woods with a pack of dogs and Uncle Louis,

1510
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 1: Aunt Duvi, Uncle Dutch, you know, down on my cousin.

1511
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,760
Speaker 1: It was it was. It was a family thing. We

1512
01:40:55,840 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 1: did things together and it wasn't only blankety blank cellphones. Yeah,

1513
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 1: you feel that's going away. I feel like it's almost

1514
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 1: all gone away. I don't see it, do you, Yeah,

1515
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 1: I feel like I see a version of it. The

1516
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: best thing that a young person. I don't think you're

1517
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I don't think you're gonna the best

1518
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna shoot for is a version of it. You're not.

1519
01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 1: You're not gonna like wage a successful war against technology. Well,

1520
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 1: but the best thing in the world to do is

1521
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 1: from time to time, these kids need to put these

1522
01:41:28,680 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: cell phones down in their iPods and all that crap

1523
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,080
Speaker 1: and go for a walk in the woods if nothing else,

1524
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,640
Speaker 1: and see God's greatest creation, and that is the outdoors.

1525
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: I agree whole hardly man and Mama and Daddy needs

1526
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: to go with them are people, which is what I am.

1527
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean. My my greatest challenge this year is one

1528
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: for my thirteen year old granddaughter Caitlin to be able

1529
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: to harvest her first bird with me. Uh that's what

1530
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna go do right now. As soon as I

1531
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: get back, I'll start hunting with her. I want her

1532
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: to get a bird bird, and I won't Carlin Tom

1533
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: Kelly to be able to harvest a bird. Do you

1534
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: have any restrictions on what your granddaughter well harvest? You?

1535
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: Are you like y'all gotta get a big tom or

1536
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 1: as a Jake? Okay? Or how do you know there's

1537
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 1: are you against jake shooting? I will not purposely shoot

1538
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:22,000
Speaker 1: at Jake. And in the study of Mississippi and Jake

1539
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: is illegal except for the youth. And Caitlyn like an

1540
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: extra bird nine kids. That seems like a little unreasonable

1541
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 1: man if he's got to cook them, as we say,

1542
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 1: if he's got to cook a bird on his chest,

1543
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: uh killing. But we are hunting Houdini. We have a

1544
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 1: particular bird, she named him, that we went in on

1545
01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 1: because of COVID seventeen times last year. Now you gotta

1546
01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: realize on Oh you mean because you were stuck hunting

1547
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: the same spot close to home. Yes, so you just

1548
01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,559
Speaker 1: had to keep working the same bird who's like not

1549
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:02,680
Speaker 1: having and sometimes he's on my land, sometimes he's on

1550
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,479
Speaker 1: somebody else's land. No, here's a very good tip for

1551
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: adults trying to get the youth into it. Uh, make

1552
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: sure that they are very comfortable and have maneuverability with

1553
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:21,640
Speaker 1: that gun. I had her in a twenty gauge and

1554
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 1: it was a youth twenty gauge and even though I

1555
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: was toting in and out of wood, for didn't carry

1556
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: a gun. Uh. It was too heavy for her. She's

1557
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: small and petique and like I had a bird in

1558
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 1: gun ranging I think three different times. Uh. One time

1559
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: we had him at twenty one steps. I'm looking at uh,

1560
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: a true trophy bird with over an inch and a

1561
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:45,760
Speaker 1: half spurs. Because I'm looking at the spurs going, oh

1562
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 1: my god, you know, killing sweedie killing. Give me that gun, kid, Nah,

1563
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: she's earned, she's earned this bird. Uh. And she couldn't

1564
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:57,240
Speaker 1: move the gun. I tried to make her move the gun.

1565
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 1: Of course you know what happened, see you by. So

1566
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: we had three opportunities. Uh. She did have a shot

1567
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: on Granddaddy's land, um, and it was a little far

1568
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't with her. And here again trying to

1569
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 1: hold the gun on the side of the tree. She missed.

1570
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 1: But that's okay, you know, what I mean. Everybody misses

1571
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 1: from time to time. It happens. Uh. But we had

1572
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,719
Speaker 1: a good time, and she's earned his bird. But whoever

1573
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: comes up that is a legal bird killing shot him,

1574
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: she's earned him. She deserves a turkey. Do you feel

1575
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 1: that bird is still alive? Judini is still alive. You

1576
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 1: saw him over the winter. I've got pictures up. Yes,

1577
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 1: you one of those guys. I have two cameras, you

1578
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: sweetheart tree. He always goes over to that tree. No

1579
01:44:57,000 --> 01:45:00,839
Speaker 1: comment comes through here every day, every day, ten fifty

1580
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: seven in front of my cameras are down right now,

1581
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 1: and he's not He's not there. He wasn't there whenever

1582
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:12,720
Speaker 1: I left. Because Steve, you had a situation last year.

1583
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: I think right where you're like, well, where we hunting turkeys?

1584
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: Or where we hunting? What follows this fence? Because what

1585
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: we did was sitting next to a fence. Well, Uh,

1586
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: here's my ruse in turkey hunting. I hunt legally, marley

1587
01:45:32,520 --> 01:45:35,759
Speaker 1: and ethically correct. I just can't help them. My morals

1588
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 1: get a little bit low during turkey season. I'm with you.

1589
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: That little devil gets on my shoulder and whenever he

1590
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: kicks my rear end um. I do not have time

1591
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 1: to tell you all the stories that eventually I will

1592
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: put in a book. But I am the I called

1593
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: myself the new breed. I've got a lot of the

1594
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: old school in me, and I've got a lot of

1595
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: the new school in me. Cutting run or sit in

1596
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:03,559
Speaker 1: one spot, I can do it whatever the physically, I

1597
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: can't do everything on one. When you say, like the

1598
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: that when your turkey hunting against the bast you mean

1599
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: and there's uh, there's a desire to to to to

1600
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:16,400
Speaker 1: to do it and get the thing. How about three

1601
01:46:16,520 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 1: years on one bird? Years? You spent three years on

1602
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: one bird? One? You know what's funny is I don't

1603
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,600
Speaker 1: look at him that way. I know, like you know,

1604
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 1: deer and stuff like that for sure, but yeah, I

1605
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 1: just don't see turkeys that way. You're the cut run person.

1606
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why I want you to Mississippi. You

1607
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: might get that, but you might not. Meaning if let's

1608
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 1: say there's some bird, I'm like, oh, you know, I've

1609
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,720
Speaker 1: tried to get him a bunch of times, and I

1610
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 1: see some other one over there. I but just very

1611
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: easily turned to that one. You know, I mean, I

1612
01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 1: don't I'm not saying I won't, but I'm gonna come

1613
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: back to him, because that is the teacher. Sure, that

1614
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: is where you get your education from, not from me,

1615
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: not from the internet, but from the bird himself. He

1616
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 1: will teach you how to hunt. Those are the kind

1617
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 1: that whenever you harvest them, you want to reach down,

1618
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 1: grab ahold of his head, open up his mouth and

1619
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: go and give him mouth to mouth, resuscitation in him.

1620
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 1: Come back to life, and let's do it again. Teach

1621
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: me some more. Those are the birds that I have more.

1622
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:29,040
Speaker 1: I have respect for all wildlife, but those are the birds,

1623
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, the hoodinis uh, the statue of Liberty bird,

1624
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 1: historical bird. Yeah, and he's bird sneaky pete you know, yes, yes, yes,

1625
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 1: to the point where he went back trying to look

1626
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:46,160
Speaker 1: for something else. Uh huh. But god, did you get

1627
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 1: a lesson? Where do you kill him or not? Didn't

1628
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: you get a lesson? Did you learn some stuff? Yeah,

1629
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. You know, let's bring him back to life.

1630
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: If we couldn't do it all over again, teach me something.

1631
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 1: I never kill him. He'd go, he'd go get by,

1632
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 1: to go get by the tree and not do anything

1633
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 1: done that. He just wants to get him. He's like,

1634
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: I don't care if I call him. It wasn't like

1635
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 1: he wanted to call him. He just wanted to get

1636
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 1: him without going The one thing that isn't gonna work

1637
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:13,759
Speaker 1: is calling him, So that's gonna go sick. Without going

1638
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 1: through the whole story, I'll give you the finale. I

1639
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 1: cut off a piece of reed cane, go to breeze

1640
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: up underneath the water and get in a creek bed.

1641
01:48:25,680 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: The first thing I did is I sucked up little

1642
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: stuff is inside a piece of red cane, and I

1643
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 1: had to stick my head up underneath the water and

1644
01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: coughs so I wouldn't make too much noise. Then I

1645
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 1: starkled down because during squirrel season, I remembered there was

1646
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:41,800
Speaker 1: a little point on the creek and he was on

1647
01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 1: the sandbar storkle down to that little point. He's my

1648
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: head up and looked and he's way too far. I

1649
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: knew if I called to him what he would do.

1650
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 1: He would haul but the other way because he had

1651
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: been hunting. So I hunted so hard and so had

1652
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 1: other people. So what I did is I took my

1653
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 1: fingers and I started slicking leaves up in the air.

1654
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:09,000
Speaker 1: And clucking and purring and scratching in the rhythm that

1655
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 1: a hen does. So then it's usually whenever he looked

1656
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 1: towards the sound, he saw those leaves and thought there

1657
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: was a real hen just on the other side of blood.

1658
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: He walked out my gun barrels inch and a hals

1659
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:25,080
Speaker 1: bird bird, and I killed him a lot more to

1660
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: that story. Do you want to carry decoys into the woods?

1661
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 1: You're not afraid of decoys? No? Not? I mean afraid

1662
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't disapprove of him, not hmm. Now

1663
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: if Preston goes by himself, which is a rarity now, uh,

1664
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:50,120
Speaker 1: I normally have like tell chaser in my backpack. Uh.

1665
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: And that's about it. I like one on one, just

1666
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 1: me and him when he's made by myself. But since

1667
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:01,599
Speaker 1: I hunt with so many different people to accomplish difference things, yes,

1668
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna carry here. It's you've got to carry one

1669
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:09,879
Speaker 1: decoy and one decoy. Only take a hand when you

1670
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,639
Speaker 1: you know how you want to get your granddaughter a bird? Yes?

1671
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:14,920
Speaker 1: What do you think she'll get out of it? Like?

1672
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 1: Why do you want to get your granddaughter a bird? Well? One?

1673
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:23,639
Speaker 1: She has worked so hard too, she is studying Mother

1674
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:29,799
Speaker 1: nature itself and appreciating everything that happens. Like I pointed

1675
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: out to her one morning, look at the spider with

1676
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: the dow still on it, going back and repairing his

1677
01:50:37,640 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: spider web. And then the sun comes through and all

1678
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:46,599
Speaker 1: those little droplets of water turns into prisons. She pointed

1679
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: out to her. You know, it's not all about the

1680
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:53,759
Speaker 1: killing part. It's about seeing, studying, enjoying, and appreciating Mother nature.

1681
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: The possum that comes by, Watch the possum, Watch what

1682
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: he does. The skunk. Listen, sweetheart, to that blue jay

1683
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: that's over there. He's about seventy yards away from us

1684
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: right now, whispering why people, How do you know that

1685
01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: he's not gobbling right now? I said, that blue jay

1686
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 1: is telling me he's right there. It's where he's at,

1687
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: or the crow are in this part of country. Magpie,

1688
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 1: you know letting. You know. So she's studying, whether she

1689
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 1: realizes it or not, she's studying Mother Nature and appreciating

1690
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:34,799
Speaker 1: everything that got Almighty made for us. Because that's the hunt.

1691
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: Is the compliments to you on your show. You don't

1692
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: show us a hunting show. You take us on a adventure,

1693
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 1: is what you do with your show, which is why

1694
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:51,639
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it, because I'm going on an adventure.

1695
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm a part of that. Not only are we hunting,

1696
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: but we're learning about historical things that are there. Uh

1697
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 1: habits so different ePol and I feel like I'm there

1698
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,320
Speaker 1: with you, And then I get a bonus at the end.

1699
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: I get to see you do what we should all do,

1700
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 1: which is enjoy or at least try our harvest and

1701
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:16,920
Speaker 1: eat it. By the way, I want one of your books.

1702
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: I hear you've got some cookbooks I want. I want

1703
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 1: one four leaf from here. You a whole stack of them. Okay,

1704
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you my address when I ain't giving it

1705
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:29,599
Speaker 1: out over there. That can we? Uh? What's your your

1706
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 1: go to turkey? Your recipe fried turkey breast? Uh? Take

1707
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 1: your breast out, cut it, uh, cross grain batteries, a

1708
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 1: little buttermilk. If you like a thicker batter on it,

1709
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 1: you can dip it in butter milk. If you like

1710
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: a thinner bat batter, you can dip it in egg

1711
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: milk and a little bit of water. I do spice

1712
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 1: that also. I'm a Tony Sashery's guy. I'm like a

1713
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:01,280
Speaker 1: Creo type, you know. Flavor to it in two ways,

1714
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 1: deep fried and just in it like fried chicken or

1715
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,599
Speaker 1: what I find out a lot of people like, as

1716
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 1: I make a Southern gravy out of the same flower

1717
01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: because it's already got spices in it that I spice

1718
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: the turkey up with. Take a turkey out, make a gravy,

1719
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 1: then take and put the turkey breast back in it,

1720
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: and just cover it in mushrooms and onions, kind of

1721
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 1: like a liver. And I don't eat liver or heart, uh,

1722
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: kind of make it like a liver recipe. And then

1723
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 1: I have some biscuits and poured over biscuits and know,

1724
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 1: whatever else you want to go with it. Or I

1725
01:53:34,960 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 1: take it and cut it in the strips the same way.

1726
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 1: It's a soy sauce base. But I'll use soy sauce oil.

1727
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 1: When you think you've got enough pepper, put some more

1728
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,600
Speaker 1: pepper into it. When you flee with that, add a

1729
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 1: little bit more pepper with oil, um, dry mustard, um,

1730
01:53:51,920 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of a red red wine vinegar. Beat

1731
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 1: all that up, sit it in it, let it soak,

1732
01:53:57,200 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: for it doesn't take along because that's a light meat

1733
01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 1: about mints. Throw it on a grill and eat it

1734
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 1: when it's coming out to grill, standing around the grill.

1735
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Those are my It's an important part of the recipe. Well,

1736
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: you don't need to cool cool down. It needs to

1737
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 1: be eating hot. That's my two favorite ways. Screw all

1738
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: this bacon stuff. I'm sayth on fride fried to grill it. Alright,

1739
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,759
Speaker 1: Preston Pittman, how do people find videos? Have you calling

1740
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 1: and whatnot? YouTube? Just google me. You'll you'll find okay,

1741
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,360
Speaker 1: you'll find me in Adopper for the spit drum and

1742
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 1: gobble contest. Um. You'll see me not shaking David Letterman's hand,

1743
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: which I had already shook it before I went out there. Now,

1744
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 1: if I type in um, if I start typing your

1745
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: name in, you know what the auto Phil puts in?

1746
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 1: What gobbling? That's what I don't already have to finish

1747
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: your name and it already it already wants the auto

1748
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 1: pil Preston Pittman gobbling. What's this trumpet situation? Trumpet different, dude, No,

1749
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 1: no know your trumpet call? Okay, trumpet call. It also

1750
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 1: wants the auto Phil Preston Pittman trumpet. A trumpet call

1751
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 1: is likewise to a wingbone. Okay, I'm looking at it

1752
01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, I got one somewhere, but anyway, Uh,

1753
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:19,959
Speaker 1: it's the call that is not used that much anymore,

1754
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes in Turkey call, and especially when you're hunting

1755
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: public land. It's that different Sam that he has not heard.

1756
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: All beings in life. I'm not saying they're intelligent and

1757
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 1: reason things out, but all beings in life have the

1758
01:55:38,160 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: ability to pass traits down. And here's my analogy. I

1759
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 1: heard you say you went ice fishing yesterday. Should have

1760
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 1: called me? Uh? And it was not anyways, Okay, he

1761
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: was mostly trying to get my kids to stop putting

1762
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,040
Speaker 1: their gloves and mittens down the ice hole. I've got

1763
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 1: four grand young guns within walking distance of me. I'm

1764
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 1: used to that. Uh. Have you ever been to a

1765
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: pond or lake has never been fished? Yeah, okay, you

1766
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: could probably saw a bear hooky all. I could take

1767
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:13,120
Speaker 1: this turn feels a little. I could probably take that

1768
01:56:13,240 --> 01:56:14,800
Speaker 1: right there and put a hook on it, catch fish,

1769
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 1: you agree? Okay, Now two years later and it's being

1770
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 1: fish more. I could take this same thing because now

1771
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 1: I've been fishing it for a couple of years. I've

1772
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: been throwing that's correct. Now I need to paint some

1773
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 1: red on there and maybe put a spinner in the

1774
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: beginning of it. You agree with that. You just said

1775
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 1: that a dumb fish with the brain the size of

1776
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: p has the ability to learn, be educated, and pass

1777
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: traits down. My second analogy is the Deep South, whenever

1778
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 1: I first started bow hunting with my nineteen dollar and

1779
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 1: bought from auto Lett. It's no longer in business. Uh

1780
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:58,000
Speaker 1: Recurve Autolet. That was the name of the store. They're

1781
01:56:58,040 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: never looked up. Back then we had the old timey

1782
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 1: where bear hugged the tree or what I used to

1783
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 1: call the death trap the old baker stands. It's no

1784
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: longer in business. And then we copied them and made

1785
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 1: them and they're never looked up. Now, what happens Mama

1786
01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: when she comes walking by more like a bird doll

1787
01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:20,000
Speaker 1: looking up the tree. That baby is learning from her,

1788
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 1: But now there is danger from above. So animals have

1789
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 1: the ability to pass trades down. Which is why I

1790
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 1: told you I can carry you to an easy place,

1791
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 1: but I would love and I will carry you to

1792
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: an easier place in Mississippi, but you'll tell me to

1793
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,400
Speaker 1: a hard spot too. I'd like for you to experience

1794
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 1: that at least one day, even in an easy place

1795
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: is a little bit tougher. But those birds have been

1796
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: hunted for so long, for so many years, they have

1797
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: gotten educated. It's what they have. And the Deep South

1798
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: it's a heritage now, the turkey hunt. And I like

1799
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: what it used to be, nothing even close. The beauty

1800
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: of my career is I've got to see this from

1801
01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 1: basically the ground floor and turned into what it's turned

1802
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: into now. Used to you made a turkey call. Hell,

1803
01:58:14,920 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 1: you used an aluminum can when d friends first started

1804
01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 1: coming out and you put tape on them. They might

1805
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 1: last the whole hunt. It might not, you know what

1806
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean. The book that I gave you Ran Jolly's book. Uh,

1807
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: you'll learn like what his daddy used to used to

1808
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 1: carry parts with him to repair his call during a hunt.

1809
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: That's real. I couldn't get through the hunt. Yeah, that's real.

1810
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:44,840
Speaker 1: President is talking about a book on Memories of Spring

1811
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 1: by Ryan Jolly, which he gifted to me. Well, Ryan

1812
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 1: sent that to you. Oh sorry, Roy gives me all right, man,

1813
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,840
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you very much for what you do.

1814
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:03,840
Speaker 1: And they, as the scene says on here, keep doing

1815
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're doing good for me, You're doing

1816
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: for every good for everyone in this sport and in

1817
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 1: this industry. You are passing it on and you are

1818
01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: bringing people into it who have never hunted, and that's

1819
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Stave. Please keep in. I appreciate you

1820
01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 1: saying that, and I appreciate the game call gift. You're

1821
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 1: very welcome, all right. I still want to carry you

1822
01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 1: hunting incision though. Oh I want to go done. I

1823
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 1: want to be like but carried. I ain't gonna touch you.

1824
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: I'll put you in my day side by side. No,

1825
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 1: I'll come next spring. Okay, done, and then next June

1826
01:59:40,160 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: for the hand grab it. That's gonna be the fun part.

1827
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:48,480
Speaker 1: I'll do it done. I'm gonna put my calendar now. Yes,

1828
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: you can come to a wrong he's got the scar

1829
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,680
Speaker 1: h that's all right. I'm the wimp anyway. I go

1830
01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:59,640
Speaker 1: out with a long sleeve shirt and I can't use

1831
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:01,800
Speaker 1: the word that they use on me or what they

1832
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: call me. I'll tell you when we're off air, but

1833
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm liable to have I'll have gloves on. You didn't

1834
02:00:07,280 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 1: have any gloves, dummy. They broke you in the rock.

1835
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 1: Some well, gloves cow, but come up leather gloves. Well,

1836
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 1: we will take care of both of us, y'all. You

1837
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:22,000
Speaker 1: can come to I don't care. Thank you seriously. You

1838
02:00:22,080 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: know who will be the best one of those two females.

1839
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 1: Females will listen to you. They don't have the echo

1840
02:00:31,600 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 1: that males. How they will. They will take instruction. I

1841
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: much rather teach a female than I would have mailed.

1842
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,040
Speaker 1: I was a fishing guide for a decade and you're

1843
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 1: very true there They listened to you. So uh may

1844
02:00:45,680 --> 02:00:49,880
Speaker 1: I tell a quick story? Please? I hope not under

1845
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: the adults mind this, but this is this is my

1846
02:00:52,840 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 1: mission statement besides passing it out. You know Number one,

1847
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:01,000
Speaker 1: Please kids staying in Scoog get the best education that

1848
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: you can possibly get. You see, have problems, find someone

1849
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: that can help you fix those problems. Like I did

1850
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: not get respect everybody that is out there, no matter

1851
02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:17,040
Speaker 1: what they do. I know. I'm gonna use a doctor

1852
02:01:17,120 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 1: as an analogy. Everybody wants to be that doctor. But

1853
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:25,000
Speaker 1: you know what, he or she that doctor cannot really

1854
02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: do their job this day in time without a nurses practitioner.

1855
02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:32,600
Speaker 1: You know what, that nurses practitioner cannot do his or

1856
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 1: her job without probably an R E N. None of

1857
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 1: those people can do their job if there is not

1858
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:43,560
Speaker 1: a secretary. They're keeping them straight. And guess what, there's

1859
02:01:43,600 --> 02:01:47,400
Speaker 1: also a janitor. This got to clean, to commode, sterilize

1860
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: the equipment, uh, empty the garbage, whatever it may be.

1861
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:56,040
Speaker 1: Respect them all. Who has the most important job, even

1862
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 1: that lonely little janitor that nobody looks at, is make

1863
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 1: it possible for everyone to be able to do their job.

1864
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,480
Speaker 1: They carry as much importance as they can. As my

1865
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:11,240
Speaker 1: daddy used to tell me, He says, son, I don't

1866
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 1: care if you're a ditch digger, but by God, you

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Speaker 1: better be the best ditch digger that there is out there.

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Speaker 1: Everybody serves a function, everybody serves a purpose. Everybody who

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Speaker 1: does a good job deserves respect. And I'll end it

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Speaker 1: with this. There is a God in heaven and Jesus

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Speaker 1: Christ is my Lord's savior. Amen. Preston Pittman, Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, Thank you. Thanks Preston,