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Speaker 1: Conversation David and Tamla Man, WHOA come on, y'all, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Keisha Knight Poem. She's a graduate of an HBCU Spell

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Speaker 1: just going through this whole bio. I want to start

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Speaker 1: I believe in two thousand one you graduated from hbc

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Speaker 1: You with honors, like I said earlier, and your mind

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Speaker 1: why is it important? Why is this important? Actually the

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Speaker 1: I mean I loved going to an HBCU. It was

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Speaker 1: And it's it's in my family. I had two brothers

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Speaker 1: But it's it's definitely an experience like no one, like

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Speaker 1: You know, you you realize what you didn't know? How

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Speaker 1: And the reason I chose sociology is because my job

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Speaker 1: things and are amazing investment if all you're looking at

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00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: is green and not the color of your skin. Um.

638
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing is we wanted to, you know,

639
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: move the needle in a meaningful way when we looked

640
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: at the landscape and recognizing that a venture capital UM

641
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: funds and in money is less than a percent point

642
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: zero zero zero six percent goes to women of color

643
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: businesses in Twente. That's crazy. So you know, well, we

644
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: knew we had to do in order to change those dynamics.

645
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: We had to be we had to be players in

646
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: this game. And it shows that we made the right

647
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: move because Fearless Fund started out as a five million

648
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: dollar fund and has grown to a twenty plus million

649
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: dollar fund um And I'm just really excited. We have

650
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: some amazing businesses in our pipeline and that we already

651
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: invested in. And you know, what I know is that

652
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: it is not a founding issue, it is a funding issue. Wow.

653
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: You know, when I when I look at you talking

654
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: when you're talking about funding, because I want to break

655
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: it down a little bit so like a common sense.

656
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: It's just more like when we see on TV Shark

657
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: Tank when you say funding and you know people come in,

658
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: you buy a percentage of their business. Is that how

659
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: you fund it? Absolutely? It's it's you know that every

660
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: deal is structured very differently. However, it is, you know,

661
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: an investment um in exchange for an equity state in

662
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: the company. And you know, one of the things that

663
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: businesses need is to infuse capital in order to you know,

664
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: scale and grow their business quickly. And a lot of us,

665
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: as black women, don't have access to that capital. And

666
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: also a lot of us in our community just have

667
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: no clue about the space, no clue about you know,

668
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: when you're building a business, you know what is even

669
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: scaling me? You know, what are the docs that I

670
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: need to have in place to even be venture venture

671
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: or even investment um just to to even garner those investments.

672
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: We don't have access to that information. So what we've

673
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: also learned during this process of the Fearless Fund is

674
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: that a lot of it is also just the information

675
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: sharing and infusing in our community because it just doesn't

676
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: exist and and we have to be the ones to

677
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: pay it forward, not just with the financial piece, which

678
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: is very important, but also the education piece. Well, the

679
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: education is really the key. You know, what you know

680
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: and what you're gain from information is how much you

681
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: can make and how you can create your status in society.

682
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: When I look at what you're doing with is fun.

683
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: It Also it starts as an idea, and I really

684
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: applaud you because you're going into uncharted territories. I can

685
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: say that because I've been in this business long enough

686
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: to know. And also, when you just said the amount

687
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: of percentages that would already apply to African American women

688
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: as entrepreneur, opportunities from a from a funding standpoint were

689
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: ridiculously low. So when you when you broke this idea, Okay,

690
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: well you're sitting around with your friends. Who did you

691
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: go to? Did you put together a business play? And

692
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: what did you do? Honestly, that's really how it happened.

693
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: You know, it was about how do we become you know,

694
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: a part of the solution. And if you want funding

695
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: to go to black women, you need to fund them.

696
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: And if we fund them, that means we need to

697
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: be on the other side at the table. And and

698
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: that's really it was as simple as that. It was

699
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: as simple as we know that these businesses are viable,

700
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: that they're thriving, that they need capital, and if if

701
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: everyone else isn't going to do it and believe in them,

702
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: that we have to be the ones to do it.

703
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: And it's crazy that, you know, when we did, when

704
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: we started the Fearless Fun we didn't realize we were

705
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: the first. We didn't realize we were the only at

706
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: the time women of color who were specifically investing in

707
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: women of color businesses. We did it because we saw

708
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: a gap in the marketplace and we saw something we

709
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: recognized we need to be a solution to a problem.

710
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: So once we did that, you know, Forbes and all

711
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: of these other different magazines and article and articles, and

712
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, people are reaching out to us to hear

713
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: more about our story. And the reality is is that

714
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: it just really fell an alignment from a social justice

715
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: perspective with everything that was going on in the world,

716
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, with um, with everything going on with a pandemic.

717
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: There was also a big social and justice upheaval with

718
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: the Black Lives Matter movement and and all of these

719
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: different things where there were so many major companies that

720
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: were making financial um declarations of how they would support

721
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: and where they would invest. And I'm grateful that they

722
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: did so because then they have to, you know, put

723
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: their money where their math was and they created a

724
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: space for us to get you know, millions invested from PayPal,

725
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: from Bank of America, from Costco, you know, to all

726
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: of these major companies who now have to back up

727
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: the financial promise that has been made to our community.

728
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: Oh standing, this is I was just enjoying this conversation,

729
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 1: just watching you articulate these values that so many people

730
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: need to hear. Now that my final question in regards

731
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: to the fears Fund this is money making conversations. Okay,

732
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: how can they reach out to be a participant of

733
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: feel out of applications? How does that process work? Well,

734
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: you can go to Fearless dot fund um. That's our

735
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: website and all of the information is right there on

736
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: the website. You know, we are investing in precede seed

737
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: and Series A businesses um and all of the requirements

738
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: are right there on the sun. Congratulations. Well, let's go

739
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: into my favorite part of the conversations. Food, food, food, food.

740
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: I have a show called Richard's Kitchen of an award

741
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: winning baker, and uh, whenever I have the guest who

742
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: comes on, who has spices, uh, food samplings, Uh, the

743
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: devices for that the culinary world. What got you into

744
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: the culinary world? You know? I love food. I love cooking, um,

745
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: and my whole family does. Actually. So I come from

746
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: a long line of from my mom to my dad,

747
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: my brothers, we all love food, we love cooking. And

748
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: the reality is, specifically I can speak to our home

749
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: being a black home, the heart of the home is

750
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: always the kitchen. That's where you gather. That's where you know,

751
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: you talk about your day, where you download, where you

752
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: have the most lively you know, conversations, debate, whatever you

753
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: want to call um and it all centers around that

754
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: whole Sunday dinner feel. And that's how it was and

755
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: is in in my family. Um. So with God and

756
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: my love to cook, I was like, you know, this

757
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: is a lane that I don't again see anyone else

758
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: who looks like me, and so I decided to to

759
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: to do cacious kitchen. Um. It was just simply you know,

760
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: so many of my friends, like they always joked for

761
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 1: like oh, she's like, I'm like the black Mark Steward,

762
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: Like even I was the one people are coming over,

763
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, cooking up dinners for all my friends. Um.

764
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: But I realized that, you know, in this age of

765
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: Uber and all of these if uber Eats or you know,

766
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: just all of these fast delivery services, people fully cook anymore.

767
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: Like all they have to do is order it and

768
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: it shows up at their house. So that kind of

769
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: the joy of it had been gone. And I know

770
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: a lot of the joy of it is not knowing

771
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: what to do, like how do I what do I

772
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: put on? What? How does it work? So that's how

773
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: I know made it really really simple. I have a

774
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: poultry and meat and all purpose season, um. And the

775
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: reality is they work good on those categories of things,

776
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: but they also are amazing and vegetables and potatoes and

777
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: and you name it so fish. Um. So that's really

778
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: just how it came about. Well, you know the thing

779
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: about it, Like I said, potatoes, I love. I can't

780
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: get enough of baked potatoes. I love vegetables, and so

781
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: just having that so this multipurpose season and all purpose

782
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: season for that is a blessing. And also have a

783
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: deal with while all Alaskan sound where they So I

784
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: when you it fish, I leaned forward. That's what I

785
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: gotta use your Now do you now if I go

786
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: online right now, can I buy it? Or how does

787
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: it working right now? But you're definitely have our word

788
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: running a sale. Um. We have our poultry as well

789
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: as our all purpose on kishus Kitchen dot com. Right

790
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: now our meat, I'm sorry, on our purpose our poultry

791
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: is sold out. However, we are coming back soon covid. Um.

792
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: We will be fully stopped shortly, and we're also adding

793
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: a new spice called in Spice. It's my first m

794
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: delve into kind of the sweet world. Everything else is savory.

795
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: But they will be up shortly, will be fully stopped.

796
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: But you know, covid has hit the supply chain I

797
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: think for everyone's business. Oh absolutely, Now let's go back

798
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: to sugar and spice now. Because my I'm a award

799
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: winning baker. So now you you kind of kind of

800
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: glossed over a little bit, you said you getting into

801
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: that sweet chain to talk about that a little bit more.

802
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: Because I do I do baking. Uh, because my my

803
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: on my show Reshaunge Kitchen always open with a baking

804
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: element in my baker, she is based in New York.

805
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: And then my cook he's based in Alabama. And I'm

806
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: based in my office kitchen in Atlanta, Georgia. So I

807
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: zoomed to the kitchens in different locations. So if you

808
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: got some sweetness going on there, I love to put

809
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: it in her kitchen and make it happen there. So

810
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Oh well, it really came down

811
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: to like one of my one of my family's, UM

812
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: favorite things that I make, UM is my peach cobb

813
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: one of my candy. There you go. What I did

814
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: was I created a spice that you can use for

815
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: those things. But coincidentally, as I was creating it, I

816
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: realized and testing on it on different things. I was like, oh,

817
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: this taste good on French toes, this taste goed on popcorn. Um.

818
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: There's so many different but you can just have a

819
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: big sweet potato and just sprinkle it on. UM. It's

820
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: just the perfect combination of you know, your favorite your cinnamon,

821
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: your nutmeg, your your your sugar. UM that goes on

822
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: those sorts of well, you know, nutmeg is my favorite

823
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: spice that you put you're coming in kitchen. Used to

824
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: me on nutmeg, you and the desserts on with me

825
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: now I don't want to. I know we talked about

826
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the things. I brought you to the

827
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: show to talk about Tyler's Paris House of Pain, the

828
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: eight season, which I'm which I'm excited about. A big

829
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: fan of Tyler, of course, and a big fan of

830
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people you have on the show. Talk

831
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: about your experience and just working with this cast who,

832
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: in some way I can say, their their foods like

833
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: crazy people just out of control over the family. That's

834
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: what family looks like. I genuinely love working with this cast.

835
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: I love each and every one of them. We have

836
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: been doing this for a really long time, and it's

837
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: a joy. It's a joy to be able to be

838
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: in people's home every week, of people to be able

839
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: to come to sit with us, to laugh, to enjoy

840
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: our journey and just have that moment to just kind

841
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: of escape everything that may be going on in the

842
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 1: world outside and just have some fun with us. So, yeah,

843
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: we're we're an interesting bunch, but it's what family is.

844
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: But you won't let you won't let Van dress you,

845
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: you know, because Cassie can't dress him, and so you

846
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: have to remain You have to maintain your style. You

847
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: have to maintain you who you are and when you

848
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: when you do these different levels of comedy, and this

849
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Speaker 1: is a much more of over the top. Sometimes I

850
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: could say, because yeah it is, it's very own, you know,

851
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: brand of comedy it is, but it's you. You can't

852
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: say is you can't watch it? Not lack. I did

853
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: not say that that. I want that. My girl cast

854
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: to David's who I've been doing for twenty five years.

855
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: She's also some Cassie. I love me some of the

856
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: man like when I tell you, um, it's it's awesome.

857
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Like we worked really hard. We do. We have a

858
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: schedule like no other when we're shooting. However, what makes

859
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: it amazing is the people who we spend it with,

860
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: not just the cast, but the crew. You know, a

861
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: lot of us from some of the cameramen have been

862
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, the people that we worked with for the

863
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: past decade, you know before when we were doing House

864
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: of Pain, before we took a little bit of a hiatus.

865
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm grateful of that I get to

866
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: go to work and do what I do and do

867
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: it with a group of people that I love. Well,

868
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: they're the importance part is that you know, also say Cassie,

869
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: she's also an HBCU graduates, well, Cassie Davis as well,

870
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: So you surrounded with all that HBC you love. But

871
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: the show comes on every Tuesday on b ET and

872
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: the popularity of working the show. I'm assuming you take

873
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: this during the COVID UH restrictions and the COVID shutdown.

874
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: Was it taped doing that process? It was tape more

875
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: recently in one Well, we I actually fulfilmed to a

876
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: couple of projects during COVID lockdown. One was a Lifetime

877
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: movie in Vancouver, and then we also did do the

878
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: House of Pain, and with that it was you know,

879
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: interesting because they were quarantined and um, you know, we

880
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: had to do what was necessary to be safe and

881
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: and we were able to do that. Well, let me

882
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: just tell you if you know what think like we

883
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: said earlier, she said, Sean, whatever you're saying. By Tyler

884
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Perri's House of Pay, We're funny. It's the number one

885
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: comedy series on cable for African American's age eighteen four four.

886
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: Basically all black people, all black people laughing at this

887
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: show and loving this show. But I would be remiss

888
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: if I don't talk about your your foundation. I wanted

889
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: to get that in before we Camp Kissi Foundation tell

890
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: us about that. Why is important that you are rallying

891
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: behind that and the purpose? Well, the Camp Kissi Foundation

892
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: is truly my baby. Um. I'm sorry if you hear,

893
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: because you know, doing these things at home can be interesting.

894
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Don has decided to like do a whole I don't

895
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: know what's happening in the house, but um, you know,

896
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: the Camp Kissie Foundation is absolutely my heart. I started

897
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: it over a decade ago, and it's all about empowerment

898
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: and self esteem for you. We do UM programming throughout

899
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: the year, but our signature program is UM. It's a

900
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: free camp for girls eleven to sixteen in the same time.

901
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: I just I just I love it. And what I

902
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: know is you don't know the dream and if you

903
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: don't know what exists. So a big portion of it

904
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: is a very holistic approach to empowerment and self esteem,

905
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is also about exposure. And

906
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really excited this year we're not going

907
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: to do in person last year. We had to do

908
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: it virtually this year as well, But next year for

909
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: twenty two, we will be back in person and we

910
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: can't wait. Well, it's important that you say that when

911
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: I one of the main reasons I wanted to bring

912
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: you on the shows to tell your story. Your story

913
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: is an amazing story from the HBCU grad with honors

914
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur, being a I want to say, a

915
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: mentor or leader in the fearless fun and also with

916
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 1: your foundation. In closing, any advice you want to give

917
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: to any of my entrepreneurs, any tips of success that

918
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: you'd like to share with him. Um, you know, I

919
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: feel like, follow your passion and the money will come.

920
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: So many people chase the money, and you have to

921
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: be dedicated and passionate about what you do and recognize

922
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: that we all have different purposes and everyone's not going

923
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: to see you know your divine um purpose in this lifetime.

924
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember it wasn't a conference call. It

925
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: was given to you. So just to keep pushing it's

926
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: it's it's hard out there because so many people are like,

927
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to work to anybody else, I want

928
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: to work myself. Understand, when you're an entrepreneur, you definitely

929
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: work harder than a nine. But the differences you're sewing

930
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: into your dreams, um and I say, just go for it.

931
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936
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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on money making Conversations. Thank you

937
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938
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958
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959
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961
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Speaker 1: Forest Service, you're State Forrester and the ad Council. My

965
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: next guest is a long time frame. My next guest

966
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: is Cassie Davis Patton Casses starring on Tyler Parris Haus

967
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: of Pain playing Ella Pain, which returns on BT for

968
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: his eight season. Tyler Perris Huss of Pain is the

969
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: number one comedy series for African America's eighteen to forty

970
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: nine five fifty four in the calendar year twenty and

971
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: you can say the calendar year twenty one too, because

972
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: it's already been picked up for another season. Cassie Davis

973
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: Pattern has worked extensively over the years with Tyler Peril

974
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: on his stage plays, TV shows, and movie he She

975
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: made a lot of money with media. Just Mdea is

976
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: really her middle name. She also attended spellm In College

977
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia, and major in music. Her big acting

978
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: break was her role in Spike Le's film School Days,

979
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: Please Welcome. When I knew it back in the day,

980
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: she was just Caffe David. Now you know she had

981
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: a man naturally. Now she Cassie Davis Patton. So from

982
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: Tyler Parris Haussa Pain, my good friend, Cassie Davis Patton.

983
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: How you doing better? Introduced me do a good jobs

984
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: doing a good job for sure. No, you did what

985
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: you normally do. Thank you you think you know you

986
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: you still got it. I appreciate it. You know the

987
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: amazing thing that you wanted one, Uh you will we

988
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: started calling now you said on one. It took me

989
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: all of one baby one and one. Attorney Anderson. Come on, y'all,

990
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: you guys were the You guys were a mad team

991
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: of brilliant black men that knew what y'all wanted to

992
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: do and did it. Steve you won home, Attorney Anderson, Um,

993
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: James Boomerang. You guys were an awesome team, and y'all

994
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: taught me so much. I was. I was at the

995
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: house and um, you guys were in the field and

996
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: you are working. Your ethics were good, and um you

997
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: were suited all the time. Uh. You guys would come

998
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: back to the house and you guys would discuss strategies

999
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: and I would eavesdrop, and UM I learned and took notes,

1000
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: and UM I do owe a lot of my success

1001
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: to the wisdom that you guys and pardoned in me

1002
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: when you didn't even know I was listening, and you

1003
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: didn't even know I care. But UM, I just appreciated

1004
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: everything that you guys came back home and discussed and

1005
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: made happen. You know, it wasn't just like you were

1006
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: blowing smoke signals. You there was actually fire, and there

1007
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: was a product that you guys um put together and

1008
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: that was me and the boys, and that was it

1009
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: was just so much that you are all dead and

1010
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, you guys were the Kings of comedy before

1011
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: the Kings of Comedy came out. Absolutely absolutely no Cassim

1012
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: talking to Cassie David. She's star. Tyler Perris hals the pain.

1013
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: That's one of the things. She's a star because she

1014
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: really is a breeding talent. And then she just talked

1015
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: about our history. The person she brought up one and

1016
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: one that's one hole, just a little little walk down

1017
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: history lane. He was Steve's manager before I became his manager,

1018
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: and he was all our best friend and we lost

1019
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: him to Soakodosius, the same illness that took Bernie Mack.

1020
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: Which is ironic that two people in Steve Harvey's life

1021
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: that he was close to the lost to the same

1022
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: heart element and uh and and that that allowed me

1023
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: to come into his life. And Ricky Anderson was the attorney.

1024
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: He's still out the attorney in our lives today after

1025
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: all these years of African American attorney. That's what she

1026
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: was talking about black men who was breaking ground with

1027
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: breaking ground because the rules were different back in nineteen

1028
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: two five. That's exactly right and exactly the right. And

1029
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: there was there was a hustle that you guys came

1030
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: out with and was just like everybody get somebody. That's

1031
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: that's what we saying in high school. Everybody gets somebody,

1032
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: don't let them shoot. And that is what you all did.

1033
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: You all Steve was in charge of this, one was

1034
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: in charge of this. Attorney Amerson handled this, and Rashan

1035
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: you really uh gathernized a whole lot of things you

1036
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: were caring to to be briefcase, you know, thank you

1037
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: for that compliment, Cassie. But then the thing about our relationship,

1038
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, is that I always saw a talented person

1039
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: and but you were not doing anything with your career

1040
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: at the time when I came into your life. But

1041
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: I was why, uh you know what, I got my

1042
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 1: feelings hurt. I was up for a part on Hanging

1043
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: with Mr Cooper, and I thought I was gonna be

1044
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: on that show, and I was doing storyboards, I was,

1045
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, going into meetings with the executives and I

1046
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: I learned that I did not get the part when

1047
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: the show aired, and it hurt my feelings so bad.

1048
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: I just didn't understand the rejection of the business. I

1049
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: thought they really like what they saw and I thought

1050
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: they meant what they said, and um, it became just

1051
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: one lie after another. That's one of Chip Fields songs

1052
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: and uh and uh. So I just thought that it

1053
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: would probably be best for me to pull out and

1054
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: not pursue this career because you know, I could have

1055
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: had anger issues and I did not want to, you know,

1056
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: take my anger out on someone. So I just stopped

1057
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: and started working with young people at Wendy School. Um

1058
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: and um, and I just I just fell in love

1059
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: with you know, what the art really could do for

1060
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: the lives of those young people. And then Mr Perry,

1061
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, he saw me doing a favor for

1062
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,879
Speaker 1: someone and asked me to come and be a part

1063
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: of his empire. And I was like, I don't have

1064
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: no time but that y'all say one thing, y'all do

1065
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: another thing, So just leave me alone because I really

1066
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: don't want to have to catch the case. Don't lie.

1067
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do it, do it. And if you're not,

1068
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: then thought and I must say that man has kept

1069
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: his word. You guys kept your word. But I just

1070
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: got my feelings hurt. I was so bruised by being rejected,

1071
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: and I just didn't understand the rejection part of the pursuit.

1072
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: And you know, you know, just important people here that

1073
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: Cassie Davis, because Cassie David's Pattons. I'm gonna talk a

1074
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: different periods. That was Cassie David's back then. And because

1075
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: Hollywood is about rejection and a lot of people aren't

1076
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: ready for that. They think that they can ride with

1077
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: the best look. They want some awards locally, and they

1078
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: get there and they'll walk you through that door and

1079
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: they'll say come back five fifteen times and then say

1080
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: so someone on your cage didn't say sorry. No, they

1081
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't even say sorry. I didn't even I was at

1082
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: home waiting. I had already gone and picked out a

1083
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: home in um To Luca Lake in Los Angeles. I

1084
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, yes, when they sent me my money,

1085
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: I can buy this house. I was with a realtor

1086
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 1: and I was at home one evening and I saw

1087
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: the advertisement come up, or the advertisement and you guys

1088
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: called it back, but then it was an advertisement and

1089
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: it was um that brilliant actress Nel Carter and I

1090
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: couldn't be mad. You know, if you're gonna lose, why

1091
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: not lose to her? But you know, but I it

1092
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: just hurt me so bad. Um, I just said, I

1093
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: think I'd better just sit out and just wait. And

1094
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: that's what I did. And then what was proven is

1095
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: if it's meant to be for you, then it's going

1096
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: to be. And it has been a great ride for me,

1097
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: even the hurt. Um. You know, I can really appreciate

1098
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: all of this choy because I do understand what the

1099
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: hurt can feel like. So we know, it's really really

1100
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: funny you say that. It really funny you say that

1101
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: casting because you know, Steve Harvey has always say because

1102
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were that talented whenever, you know,

1103
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: I just knew you were very nice. She was always punctual,

1104
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: he was always a beat and and then teach it.

1105
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: You know she's talented, right, I go, what do you

1106
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: mean you said? That girl right there can sing? I go, Cassie, Cassie, Gazie.

1107
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: She never showed me that you were just you had

1108
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: just like just just just connected. You didn't even all

1109
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: the talent that God gave you. You just like shoved

1110
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: it in a box. And say I'm done. How did

1111
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: you get out of that box? How did you get

1112
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: out of that moment to say you know something, it's

1113
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: time Before Tyler Perry said hey, I want to bring

1114
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: you on board. What brought you out of that cocoon? God?

1115
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: You know, when I realized that the talent was not mine,

1116
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: too bary, and was not mine to shove in a box,

1117
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: and that um, it was his to showcase to his people,

1118
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: and it was something that he would use me to

1119
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: do and free some people and bring some joy to

1120
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: some people and and help some people. So the many

1121
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: stories that I now hear um about how the messages

1122
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: from House of Pain has helped somebody's family or somebody's

1123
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: grandmother or you know. I have a friend in Holly

1124
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: Springs right now. She watches all of Tyler Parris, Tyler

1125
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: Parris movies and then the sitcoms, and um, it just

1126
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: blesses her that I'm a part of it. But it

1127
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: was it was God that that made me do it.

1128
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: But the vehicle really, really really was Chip Fields. And

1129
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: when I met Chip Fields and she wanted me to

1130
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: be in a play, it was like, are you gonna

1131
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: do what you say you can do? And she did.

1132
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: And after that I just began to trust her. And

1133
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: then I came into Wonder Love and I met you guys,

1134
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: said um, and I just said, you know what, there

1135
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: are some good people here. So rejection is a part

1136
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: of it. But I just did not know. I didn't

1137
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: like being rejected. Who the who likes caring jeck and

1138
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: so I did not understand it. And I, uh, you know,

1139
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: in my innocence, I made plans for some money that

1140
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: I did not have. So that has taught me a lesson.

1141
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: Did you can't spend what you don't have and um,

1142
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: and there's always research that we need to do, and

1143
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: I did not do by research. I was just taking

1144
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: people at their faith value and um, and I still

1145
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: do it, but I I have to listen for those

1146
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: keywords that that I could have known that I was

1147
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: not being chosen for that part. But I just did

1148
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: not understand the lingo and I did not do my research.

1149
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: No problem. I did not have wise counsel, but we

1150
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: did not. I didn't have any counsel really at all.

1151
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: And so um, but now I have wise counsel. That's right,

1152
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: that's right. Here here's the beauty because because cashier just

1153
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: throw our names, like she wondered with Karen Robinson, like

1154
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: when you Karen Robinson was was the principal on Steve

1155
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: Harvey sitcom, and of course she's wanted to do the

1156
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: Game and many other great series. She feels is Kim

1157
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: Field's mother. One of the emotions explaining absolutely, all these

1158
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: landmarks now, don't worry, I got your back. That's the legends,

1159
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: all of them. Absolutely, Steve, are you kidding? I mean

1160
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: you guys went the hair. I saw you. I saw

1161
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: you guys stumbling. I saw you. Not know anything with

1162
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: Steve care He'll tell you. He came to house and

1163
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: we were just I was like, he got a job.

1164
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: He can't even read, tell you. I was just like

1165
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: what I was like, and he was was like he

1166
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: was reading his script. He was saying, Steve sits down.

1167
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: I was doing at saying, he's reading the direction this listen.

1168
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: Now he's reading directions and everything and giving directions, reading

1169
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: directions and giving directions, telling people what you do, directions.

1170
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: He is a direction. He is one to follow. You know.

1171
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: When I when I look at the beauty of you,

1172
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I want to go back to your

1173
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: Spellman days because I really always when I read a

1174
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: graduate of Spellman, I gotta HBCU in general, I've got

1175
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: to be able to hear that. Let that story be

1176
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: from announced on my show, talk about Spellman while you went,

1177
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: and the experience and the greatness you've achieved by being

1178
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: a graduate of Spellman. Oh my god, Rashaan. I heard

1179
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: about Spellman College in nineteen eighty three, and there was

1180
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: a young lady, Patricia Johnson, who was the recruiter for

1181
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: Spellman College and her dad and lives right below by

1182
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: my dad's house in Holly Springs, Mississippi, Reverend Graham, And

1183
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: he called his daughter. He said, Hey, look, there's a

1184
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 1: girl over here that I want to come to Spellman

1185
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: her dad and I'm not gonna have a whole lot

1186
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: of money, so just find her some money and uh

1187
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: to come over here. And I need you all to

1188
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: recruit her and talk to her daddy. And she did.

1189
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: She came, and um, she spoke with my dad and

1190
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: assured him that I would matriculate and I would be okay,

1191
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: and I would be safe and and and it happened,

1192
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: and my dad took me down to Spelling College in

1193
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four, and I graduated in two thousand nine.

1194
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: I was a senior for twenty one years. I got

1195
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: down to Atlanta and lost my mind. I got into

1196
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: the city with all these lights and got over there

1197
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: in that a youth center on Fairs ste and the

1198
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: party became real. And then I fell in love with

1199
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: the theater company Your Monday Productions in the city, and

1200
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: I began to work with them. Now I didn't really

1201
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: care about being a music major anymore. I didn't really

1202
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: care about singing um classical music. I thought I was

1203
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: going to be a gospel singer. And when I got

1204
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: to Spellman, they wanted us to do um, a classical

1205
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: format and the method for really learning and studying music.

1206
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: And when I got there, I was just like, what,

1207
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to sing an Aria. I want to

1208
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: sing to God be the Glory and my tribute, you know,

1209
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: my dad come home. They want to hear English. I

1210
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: don't want to be singing old Italian and so just country.

1211
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: I didn't really know, and uh, and so I got mad.

1212
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: I had one hour to graduate and I left. Chip

1213
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 1: Fields came through and she was going out in a

1214
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: play with Zinky Winings and and um, and so I

1215
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: got in that play in nine and and I left

1216
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: Atlanta with that one hour to graduate. I called my

1217
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: dad and them three days before graduation to tell them

1218
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: that I would not be graduating, and the um they

1219
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: were just undone. My dad was like, you're living in

1220
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: a bubble. Now you're going out to chase a dream

1221
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: and you never do you know, actors come a dime

1222
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: a dozen. You're never gonna be on a show. Nobody

1223
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,720
Speaker 1: knows you'll get out of here. You're not gonna And

1224
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,959
Speaker 1: the more he said you're not, the more I said,

1225
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna prove it to you.

1226
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: I know that this is what I need to do.

1227
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 1: I want to do it. They won't let me sing

1228
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: for God, and you know our model and Spelman was

1229
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: our whole school for Christ. I was like our whole

1230
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: school for Christ. And you won't let me do a

1231
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: gospel song on my senior recitalment. We'll forget it. I

1232
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: don't want to degree, and I was. I got out

1233
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: to California. I went out to to visit Hip for

1234
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: two weeks. I left fourteen years later. And in that

1235
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: fourteen years, you know, I summing up to be too

1236
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: years to seven years you know, like so it was

1237
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: the first seven years I was learning one thing, the

1238
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: second seven years I learned another thing. And um and

1239
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: and it was it was completion twice for me. UM.

1240
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: Seven is usually the number of completion. So I had

1241
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: to run my course twice to get out of l A.

1242
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: And when I left, I came back to Atlanta doing

1243
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: House of Pain with Mr Perry and UM, and I

1244
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: went back to Spellman College and I marched and walked. Uh.

1245
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: I got that degree in two thousand and eight December,

1246
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: and I marched in two thousand nine. And I am

1247
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: a proud Spellman moment and um. And it was not

1248
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: just what I learned on the inside of the gates

1249
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: that made me the woman that I am today, But

1250
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: it was what they taught me on the inside that

1251
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: I applied on the outside of the gates, UM that

1252
01:07:56,680 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: made me an even more proud moment and um. And

1253
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: it was those fourteen years of labor out there in

1254
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: l A that prepares me for today. You know. When UM,

1255
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even like doing interviews because it

1256
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: just seems like, UM, it's so much you want me

1257
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: to cram into twenty minutes. When um, you know, we're

1258
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: talking about ninety one two twenty one? Are you kidding me?

1259
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: In the pandemic. It's so many jewels and elements to

1260
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: get life and to describing it and to telling you

1261
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: how important everything is. Money is important, faith is important, Uh,

1262
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 1: Rejection is important, health is important, Wisdom is important. Uh,

1263
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: and wisdom is the principal thing. Um, so at all

1264
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: I get. You need to get wisdom, you need to

1265
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: get an understanding, but wisdom is the principal thing. You

1266
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: know it just um, you know when you when you

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01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: get mature, and you know, I left spellming college, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't walked on I didn't walked degree. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: All that money, my folks sacrifice, I had to do

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Speaker 1: it and I did and and it just feels so

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Speaker 1: good to accomplish. You know, when I was in l

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Speaker 1: A and I was saying, I'm a spelling to night,

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Speaker 1: but well I had a graduated yet, but I am

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Speaker 1: a spell to night. I did. I have want how

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Speaker 1: to graduate? You know, there's nothing really to brag about

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Speaker 1: until you can say I did it. I went back,

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Speaker 1: I got my degree, and I am a spell to night.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just spelling from college because you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm more of a bearcat at Russ College in a

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Speaker 1: hollyo Springs, Mississiffici that I am a jaguar at spell

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Speaker 1: In College. I know more about growing up on Russ

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Speaker 1: College's campus than I do of how growing up on

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Speaker 1: Spellinger's campus. But you know, I had those institutions and

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Speaker 1: of higher education, and I just believed in doing better

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Speaker 1: and doing more and being exposed to more. And you know,

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Speaker 1: now making away for my siblings or my my my

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Speaker 1: nieces and nephews to have you know, their dreams come

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Speaker 1: to the tuition, you know. So now I'm passing the

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Speaker 1: torch if you will, well, you look fantastic. And Cassie Davis,

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Speaker 1: we're talking to Cassie Davis Patton, thank you. Co star

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Speaker 1: Tyler Perris. House of Pain is the number one show

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Speaker 1: on African American homes in is gonna come back this month.

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Speaker 1: It's the eighth season of the show. Let's talk about fame.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about fame and you, Cassie, because I know

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Speaker 1: you humble, you know, you know, you know not you

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Speaker 1: not want to want to get recognized in the grocery store.

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Speaker 1: You ah, you, I mean, you can't on the Steve

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Speaker 1: Harvey Morning Show. He played nephew Tommy's Mama and girl

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Speaker 1: and say that I'm not gonna say that. It's just

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: they're still doing that. That was a secret. And you

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Speaker 1: guys that maybe all my money. Okay, I called Steve

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Speaker 1: are one of the richest man's and the men in

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Speaker 1: the world. We're gonna pay you all your money. Now,

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01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: would you being famous Tyler Paris House of Fame because

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: you're famous in Medea movies? How did you deal with fame?

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01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: How did you deal with that? Well? You know what,

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Speaker 1: um Rishan, I really don't know. I really don't know

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Speaker 1: if I deal with it. You know, I just like people,

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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: and so when I meet them out anywhere and they

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Speaker 1: are talking about Ella, or they're talking about Bam, or

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01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: they're talking about Tyler Pear, I welcome what they have

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01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: to say. You know. I feel like what they have

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01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 1: seen um is in their house. It becomes very personable

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01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: to them and the messages I think hit home with

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Speaker 1: their lives. And so some people are very nice when

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01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 1: they approach you, and then there are some people who

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01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: who tripped and then you know you have to say, hey, wait, pen,

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01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: that's a character, don't slate. Now, I don't don't don't

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01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't you know I'm not always on TV.

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Speaker 1: I'm not always active that always script. Don't get slapped.

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01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: But you know, but it is so wonderful to experience

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Speaker 1: these things because these people are so wonderful right now,

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01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, when when you meant so, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm handling it properly. We know

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Speaker 1: there's two types of fame for you because you you know,

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 1: you you blew up in his plays, Tyler Perrish plays

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01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 1: and then the TV show and then the movies which

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01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: became international, which also put you on the big screen,

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Speaker 1: the Medea movies. That what you feel is mostly impactful

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Speaker 1: in your career, the plays, the MDEA movies, or the

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01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: TV show impactful. I would probably have to say, um,

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Speaker 1: the movies, Um well, I probably would have to say

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Speaker 1: the TV show. Um. The thing I enjoy the most.

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Speaker 1: I would have to say is the play or the plays,

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01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, just to get that instant gratification and to

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Speaker 1: be their lives in a in a building with Shawn

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Speaker 1: and I. I always describe it like I'm in a

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Speaker 1: building with ten thousand people and they don't know each other,

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01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: but they're all laughing at the same time, they're all

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01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: crying at the same time. And then I'm sitting next

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Speaker 1: to a mastermind, Tyler Perry as my dear, and he

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01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: just orchestrates direct. If there's something on the stage that

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01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: goes wrong, he can handle it. If there is a

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: fight in the crowd, he can handle it. If there's

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: a heckler in the crowd, he can handle that. You know.

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Speaker 1: If he said and we need to finish us, you know,

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01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: the show early, he can handle that, you know. So

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01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: just to be sitting on stage with a mastermind, and

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: it's just really ah been the treat of my whole career.

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01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: So I love all the mediums. I love plays, I

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: love TV, I love movies, UM and I think the

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: best thing for me is his work ethics and um.

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: And he means business when he shows up. So if

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01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: you have your script, uh ten days before or five

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: days before, or if he calls you the night before

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01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: it says, hey, look, I thought about something that I'd

1357
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: like to put you in, just be ready. And so

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01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: that's what I really appreciate about the about the three

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: entities that I worked in. Let's talk about TV for

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01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: a wrap up here, because I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I've been hyping it, been promoting the eighth season. What

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: can we respect on this season of Tyler Perry's House

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: of Pain is on every Tuesday, n PM Central. He's

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Speaker 1: come an a p m. Central, NPM Eastern West Coast. Yes, um, Rishan,

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Speaker 1: you should expect more of the same, and then you

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Speaker 1: can expect um uh. I just think that because House

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Speaker 1: of Pain depicts life and art depicts life, it's going

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Speaker 1: to it's going to speak to those who are in

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Speaker 1: broken relationships, is gonna speak to those young people who

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Speaker 1: are feeling themselves. It's going to speak to older people

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Speaker 1: who are feelings, you know. So it's going to it's

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Speaker 1: going to reach the gathert you know. Are we love

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Speaker 1: the fact that we have and that generation to generation

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01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 1: from two to two hundred are watching the show, you know,

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01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: the age ranges, and we actually have families sitting down

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01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: watching the show together. So I think you're going to

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01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 1: be amazed with uh um some of the storylines and

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: the message is that we will bring to the forefront

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Speaker 1: on this run on this season and again it ties in,

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Speaker 1: it ties the seventh season into the ninth season, so

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. Well, my dear, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on Money. As a family, on and off set,

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: we love each other, so I hope that you will

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Speaker 1: experience the love that we have for each other just individually. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's no doubt. That's no doubt because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that I had Kesha Nights Pullman on the show. Same

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Speaker 1: same also in Spelling Night graduing it graduate and so

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Speaker 1: you know, y'all take it over there. We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a big story on that, by the way, so be ready.

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Speaker 1: I want to just thank you for coming on Money

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Speaker 1: and Conversation. I really do, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me. I was so excited all week about I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna see what Sean? Oh my god, well we're Sean.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk off set? I mean, you know, don't

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Speaker 1: you want to help me do something? I would call

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow? Is that fine? What you I'll call you tomorrow. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I will call you tomorrow and we'll connect. And my

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Speaker 1: numbers still say I love you. You look beautiful and

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Speaker 1: it was a great view thanks to you and your team.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys, everybody. We will be right back with

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Speaker 1: more money making conversations with your host Rashan McDonald. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I am Rashan McDonald, hosts of Money Making Conversation dot com.

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Speaker 1: In recent years, the neighborhood has been completely revitalized and

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Speaker 1: here outside the Perez family home, just waiting for the

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Speaker 1: and there they go, almost on time. This morning. Mom

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Speaker 1: is coming out the front door strong with a double

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Speaker 1: armed kid carry. Looks like dad has the bags. Daughter

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Speaker 1: is bringing up the rear. Oh but the diaper bag

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Speaker 1: wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh but mom

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Speaker 1: has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler.

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Speaker 1: And now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about

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Speaker 1: nine or ten, has secured herself and the booster seat.

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Speaker 1: Dad zips the bad clothes and they're off, But looks

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Speaker 1: like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on

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Speaker 1: the roof of the car and there it goes. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't

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Speaker 1: to money making Conversations with your host, Rashaan McDonald. My

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Speaker 1: next guest is truly an industry decision makers. Dr Steve Perry.

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Speaker 1: Dr Parry is a national leader in the education revolution,

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01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: a change agent who is tireless in his fight for

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01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: providing equal and competitive opportunities for children who otherwise will

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Speaker 1: not have a voice. His mission is to provide high

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Speaker 1: quality education with college bound opportunities for children in poverty.

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Speaker 1: In twenty Dr Steve Perry opened his fifth school campus

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Speaker 1: in Bronx, New York, and all students are admitted to

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Speaker 1: the schools by random lottery in order to ensure equal

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Speaker 1: access to all students, regardless of socio economic status academic history.

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01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:05,879
Speaker 1: Dr Steve Perry's mission is to provide historically disadvantaged students

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Speaker 1: with the college and career readiness skills needed to become responsible,

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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: engage citizens for social justice and offering a rigorous college

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Speaker 1: prof curriculum and the collective variety of athletic programs, project

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Speaker 1: based learning, and multi prong faculty support. Please work with

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Speaker 1: the money making conversation, dear friend by man, Dr Steve Perry,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing, sir? Having in some of my life? Brother,

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Speaker 1: really genuinely, I am, and forgive me. I am in Harlem,

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Speaker 1: so you will hear the sounds of the city. I

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Speaker 1: have no control over that. Well, the sounds of City,

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Speaker 1: if you're New York. I always tell people like I think,

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Speaker 1: basically seven million people living New York proper in Manhattan proper,

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Speaker 1: and on a given day, seven to eight million will

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Speaker 1: enter New York. So you can look at from Twitter

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Speaker 1: to fifteen million people on that island. So when you

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Speaker 1: say noise in New York, I say, okay, right, because

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Speaker 1: I have to say that everybody is not as familiar

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Speaker 1: with our home as as you are. So uh, you

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Speaker 1: you know from your time here at the Apollo that

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Speaker 1: this is allowed little place we know it. Start Steve Erry,

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting that you know New York. I moved

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Speaker 1: to New York like an eight first time I went

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Speaker 1: up to New York and lived there, and it was

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Speaker 1: in transition. Remember I couldn't catch a cab if I

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Speaker 1: was in Lower New York to come to If you

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Speaker 1: say you're going across the hundred fifth three, they wasn't

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Speaker 1: gonna you might weren't even getting the cab because they

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Speaker 1: weren't gonna take you. And then we went through this,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Central Park Jarger, you know situation where

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Speaker 1: the five being were convicted, and and then we then

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Speaker 1: we transitioned into they'll pick you up and take you

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Speaker 1: up there, and then you look at New York a

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Speaker 1: hundred street and white people that two am are walking

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Speaker 1: their dogs. And so this morning trip is tripping me out,

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Speaker 1: like it's just really tripping me out. And so would

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Speaker 1: you in there? Now? What is why is it important?

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Speaker 1: Because we're talking at a different hall of now, not

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Speaker 1: the hall of my new not the hall of you

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Speaker 1: reading the newspaper. What hall of are you working in? Now?

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Speaker 1: What's the environment of hall that you're tied to? Now?

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Speaker 1: That's that's interesting, Um, I am Our school is currently

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Speaker 1: located on a hundred and fourth and fifth Avenue, which,

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Speaker 1: if you know anything about New York, is right across

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Speaker 1: the street from Central Park. I mean I can see

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Speaker 1: the botanical garden right outside my window. And um, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: We are on what's called a museum mile, which is

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Speaker 1: just what you just aptly named. Behind me is the

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Speaker 1: African American Museum. Beneath me is Al Musel all the

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Speaker 1: way down to the Museum of Natural History. So this

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Speaker 1: area is a gorgeous area as areas go. Similarly, um,

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Speaker 1: you are seeing a conversion of the Brownstones purchased by

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Speaker 1: only we can't just be middle class. You got the

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Speaker 1: upper middle class to wealthy folks, many of whom appear

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Speaker 1: to be white. Um. And for them, Harlem is a

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Speaker 1: place of a cultural experience. They come, many of them

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Speaker 1: come to be immersed in what they believed to be

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Speaker 1: the culture of Harlem. But there's still that group right

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Speaker 1: over there in the Union housing projects, which is on

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Speaker 1: the other block. So again, if you're not from New York,

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Speaker 1: what I'm explaining to you would seem unconscionable that so

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Speaker 1: much happens in in so few square feet. But in

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Speaker 1: the two yards that this block is, on one side

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Speaker 1: you have some of the wealthiest real estate arguably in America,

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Speaker 1: and then just two yards on the other side, you

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Speaker 1: have a couple of housing projects, um. And then then

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Speaker 1: on the other side you have a new high rise.

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Speaker 1: So butchers between these, uh are stuck between these two

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Speaker 1: pretty expensive pieces of property, you have housing projects and

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Speaker 1: rent controlled places. One of my colleagues lives in approximately

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Speaker 1: I want to be polite et seven hundred square feet.

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Speaker 1: It feels like five D seven hundred square feet efficiency

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Speaker 1: and she pays twenty seven that's my right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: So you're not scaring me with those numbers. See that

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Speaker 1: was in the five hundred square feet. I was happy.

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Speaker 1: I was happy. But but but so that's what it

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Speaker 1: looks like. But what I worked with, I work with

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Speaker 1: some of the poor kids in America. I worked with some, um,

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Speaker 1: some of the most talented, beautiful, awesome, poor black black children,

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Speaker 1: UM who wow around them? There is UH call it renaissance.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you call it a renaissance. We're

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Speaker 1: not going backwards, um, but it is a a resetting

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Speaker 1: on I don't know if you remember what the path

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Speaker 1: mark used to be that place. Yeah, so the path

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Speaker 1: mark used which is just which is just a block

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Speaker 1: away from, um, the train station. That building was just

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Speaker 1: torn down. They're about to build They're about to excuse me,

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Speaker 1: a very very very nice uh set up there. However,

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Speaker 1: on the ground level, it's like the Land of the Dead.

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Speaker 1: Bunch of zombie people walking up and down looked, it's rough.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're homeless, I don't. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: know what they do at night, so I can only

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Speaker 1: see what they do during the day. Um. But people

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Speaker 1: who most would consider or believed to be home lists

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Speaker 1: are walking UM and stackering U just in the shadow

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Speaker 1: of this. Well, you know, the thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that to make people understand the relatability of what he's saying,

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Speaker 1: is that because I lived in New York three times

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Speaker 1: and we always threw me off, was that you can't

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Speaker 1: walk from wealthy to poverty in a block. I mean

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Speaker 1: you can walk on the same block. Is the same

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Speaker 1: way whereas in if you're a traditional city, you drive

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Speaker 1: to it, you drive, you drive to a housing project

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Speaker 1: in New York City, you walk past it. You know,

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Speaker 1: you you walk past the dorman who secured building, and

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Speaker 1: you go to the next block, and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: where's my security. Where's my doorman to get me through

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Speaker 1: this block? So there's a right there, that building right

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Speaker 1: there as a security. I think that the condos in

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Speaker 1: there and they have to start in the load ones

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Speaker 1: millions like right there and right there, separated by two

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Speaker 1: hundreds uh yards, is public housing that just separates. Just

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Speaker 1: that's what it is. And so it is a tale

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Speaker 1: of two nations that we're in. And what's interesting to

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Speaker 1: me is how the midst obvious, well, how the systemic

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Speaker 1: barriers of racism are so effective as to allow for

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Speaker 1: the the coexistence of two vastly different groups of people,

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Speaker 1: and they they never seem to understand one another. And

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Speaker 1: my children don't often understand. I have explained it, like,

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Speaker 1: do you know who we are? I mean they right here?

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Speaker 1: Do you know people call this No, it's the museum

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Speaker 1: mile like this is one of the wealthy, Like this

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Speaker 1: stretch right here, it's like, well, like it doesn't again,

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Speaker 1: I'll put it this way, so on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the part, just for people to understand. Just over

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Speaker 1: there it's Trump Tower. So I'm here, I can almost

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Speaker 1: see it over there. So we're talking about the kind

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Speaker 1: of wealth that's jaw dropping right there, and the kind

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Speaker 1: of poverty that's equally jaw dropping. And here we are

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Speaker 1: in the middle, attempting to carve a new door. Because,

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Speaker 1: as you know, Carter G. Woodson said that if you

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Speaker 1: send a man to the back door now and there

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Speaker 1: is no back door, when he gets there, he will

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Speaker 1: cut one for himself. M hm. So we're trying to

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Speaker 1: teach our children to go through a different door, really,

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Speaker 1: the children and the parents simultaneously. We've been doing this

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Do you ever get what frustrates

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Speaker 1: you about the process of what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: What really I raced me uh and really tricked me out,

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Speaker 1: is that how we'd be done by now. Honestly, I

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Speaker 1: thought when I thought when charter school started to open

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Speaker 1: and we were able to show that you could take

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Speaker 1: the same black children, same Latin children in the same address,

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Speaker 1: from the same families and put them in a different school,

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Speaker 1: and those children would be able to read on grade level,

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Speaker 1: right on grade level, do math on grade level, go

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Speaker 1: to college at the rate of anywhere from ninety upon graduation. Again,

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Speaker 1: I told you you're gonna hear us um it is.

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Speaker 1: I figured this country, and for what it's worth, the

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Speaker 1: president who got us started down that road was President

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Speaker 1: Bush too, but the person who really kicked it into

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Speaker 1: um full gear was President Obama. So I figured, as

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Speaker 1: soon as we show that you can take children from

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Speaker 1: wherever they come and help them ascend to the highest highs,

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Speaker 1: that I mean both sides of our I figured, maybe

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Speaker 1: the Republicans a trip because they're not as committed to

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Speaker 1: black and brown people as the Democrats say they are,

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Speaker 1: so maybe there'll be some rub there. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: we should be cool because their freedom loving people, and

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Speaker 1: they want the freedom of school tchice, That's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: I could not be more wrong. The Democrats have been

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Speaker 1: the most ardent opponents of the very escape route that

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Speaker 1: we need to use to get out of the poverty

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Speaker 1: that in many cases there policies have plunged us into. Sadly,

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Speaker 1: the Republicans are so uh in apt around issues of

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Speaker 1: class and race that anything that comes out of their

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Speaker 1: mouths people think is racist, even when they're making headway

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Speaker 1: and policies of school choice. So what frustrates me is

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Speaker 1: that I find myself with these lion politicians all the time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they get on my nerves. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: replying to you. Just some of them are people who

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Speaker 1: I know, like friends, people in my house. It is,

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Speaker 1: it is a peculiar paradox that I find myself And

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Speaker 1: because I you know, I just didn't walk through and

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Speaker 1: one of our schools here in Harlem and had to,

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Speaker 1: you know, tighten up some kids by not being a

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Speaker 1: uniform the way that's supposed to be doing that very

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Speaker 1: micro thing. But then from there I have to have

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Speaker 1: a macro conversation with the legislator about something that's just

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Speaker 1: it's just foolish, man, I don't even it sickens me

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Speaker 1: that we're still having these conversations. It is. And I

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Speaker 1: might add where I really, really, really really really was

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Speaker 1: wrong was I felt like I, as a black man

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Speaker 1: committed to the black community, came to members of the

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Speaker 1: black community and I'm being completely transparent because you're my guy.

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Speaker 1: I felt like I would be able to get from

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Speaker 1: black legislators, um, black wealthy people the kind of support

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Speaker 1: that our children need. And let me be clear, They're

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Speaker 1: not putting any money in my pocket. They're not increasing

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Speaker 1: my salary. They don't make my house bigger at all. Actually,

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Speaker 1: when they give money to us, when they create legislation

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Speaker 1: that creates more opportunities for schools like ours to open,

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Speaker 1: my salary does not move, you know, despite my wife's

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Speaker 1: interest and son's interest in my salary moving. In fact,

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Speaker 1: one of my sons, one of my sons, goes to

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Speaker 1: school with a person who runs a large charter network

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Speaker 1: and she makes a considerable amount more than I do.

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Speaker 1: And he said, he said, see the all time, do

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Speaker 1: you ever get frustrated by that? I don't. I didn't

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Speaker 1: get into this that I got in because I feel

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Speaker 1: so blessed to be a part of our children's lives.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that God wakes me up all the

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Speaker 1: people othershan, I'm telling you, I can't and you know this,

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Speaker 1: And this is what we talked about. When there's no

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Speaker 1: cameras on, nobody watching, there's no bs anything, I can't

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Speaker 1: believe that God wake this to uh get part of

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Speaker 1: like I just like in this way, it's just the

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Speaker 1: most awesome experience. So, I mean, do I enjoy earning

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Speaker 1: a living? I do, But I want to make it clear.

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Speaker 1: And and and if I made sixty billion dollars doing

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Speaker 1: it because I helped kids, would that be a bad thing?

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Speaker 1: I mean, be people who do great things. But that's

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Speaker 1: not what happens. What actually happens is when they give money,

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Speaker 1: when they create legislator shin, it presents opportunities for us

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01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: to be able to serve more children. What that means

1682
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 1: is I can hire more people who can create more

1683
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: classrooms so that we can have more children. That's it,

1684
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: Dr Berry. When we talk about the five schools that

1685
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: you have, this is from my audience who's listening and

1686
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: who also are watching, And basically, what is the attendance

1687
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: size of the school, what is the age reign of

1688
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: the curriculum schedule, the new one that you have and

1689
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 1: the Bronx, how does that work because we know about

1690
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,919
Speaker 1: the lottery system to get in? Are they all located

1691
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: in the New York Connecticut area where they located these

1692
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 1: five schools they are? Thank you so much for asking

1693
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: uh thoughtful question like that because most people don't. UM,

1694
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: so we have we have two sites in Connecticut and Bridgeport.

1695
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,840
Speaker 1: What we actually three? So if one in Hartford, I'm

1696
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 1: not affiliated with that one anymore. I'll explain to you

1697
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,519
Speaker 1: at a moment um. That was the first school. And

1698
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: then um, we have two sites in Bridgeport, Connecticut and

1699
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: they're about four hundred apiece. And then we have uh

1700
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: in Harlem, we have one that will be about eight hundred,

1701
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 1: and then we have one in the Bronx that will

1702
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 1: be about eight hundred. So the one we did in

1703
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Hartford is what was around eight hundreds. So and then

1704
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: some of them are broken into multiple sites. So that's

1705
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: where the numbers are roughly three thousand. Look and so

1706
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 1: when you when you reach them, there's as three thousand

1707
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 1: students that because you you can the hard students, poverty

1708
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: driven students, So three thousand students that you're given a

1709
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: different way of life. They wouldn't have that different way

1710
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 1: of life academically if you didn't have a vision or

1711
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 1: feel blessed to get up. It's not about the money,

1712
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,920
Speaker 1: It's about providing an opportunity and escape to a better life.

1713
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: Basically what you're doing with these students and their families too,

1714
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 1: because the kids ben afair, they they do the things

1715
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: they're supposed to, go to college, hopefully can pay it

1716
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: forward and go pick their family and move them forward

1717
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 1: as well. That's your dream, politicians. People who think they

1718
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 1: are undertones of greed tied to this, what do you

1719
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 1: what do you do want out of it? Those those

1720
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 1: frustrating lanes, But then you see the results, the students

1721
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 1: who have left your school. How does that make you feel? Again?

1722
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: So this weekend, great question great questions. So this weekend

1723
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I went to two graduation parties, college graduation parties and

1724
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: they have have those parents one one graduation I went

1725
01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 1: to UM, then way graduated from Cton Hall and UM

1726
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 1: to have the parents who are no longer together actually

1727
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: recently divorced, to have them each separately come over to

1728
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 1: me and thank me. I don't feel worthy. Um, it's

1729
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: what I honestly feel when Dad came over to me

1730
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 1: and he said, you know, she couldn't have done around

1731
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,520
Speaker 1: you as a brother. Come on, I'm just a spectator.

1732
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you know school, and I appreciate it,

1733
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,439
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna thank you for the flowers

1734
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: that you're giving me while I'm still up here, and

1735
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna appreciate that. But I current, come on, this

1736
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 1: is this. No person can do this. This is not

1737
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 1: what people can do. This is God so um. But

1738
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,920
Speaker 1: what you know, Dr Perry, Dr Perry, I can stop

1739
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: you right there because I know it a long time,

1740
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: because you are and I've always criticized you for your humbleness.

1741
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: You know, you know you are a vessel. It is

1742
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: God's work. But you get up. I know your wife,

1743
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 1: I know your boys. They sacrifice. Okay, this at a time,

1744
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: you're going the road to speak to kids that you

1745
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 1: don't know. I've seen it. You go to camps hot

1746
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: in the summer talking to boys you don't know, trying

1747
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 1: to just give them a nugget of information that would

1748
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: change their life. And so I got the humble this.

1749
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 1: But they are right, You're that blessing. You're that, You're

1750
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: you're the kid. You're the kid who grew up become

1751
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: a man and said, no, somebody want to make a difference,

1752
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: and that difference has to be in other people. So

1753
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: what triggered that? That's what I need to know? What

1754
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: triggered that? I appreciate that I, as you know, I'm

1755
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm wickedly competitive. I understand somebody has to lose. It

1756
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: just never has to be made. So um So for me,

1757
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: I want to be the when this thing is done,

1758
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: when when the box is mine and the dirt drums

1759
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 1: on top of it. I want to be the best

1760
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: who's ever done. I don't, I don't. I want to.

1761
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: That will be evidence that I took what a little

1762
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 1: bit that I came into the game with and and

1763
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: I flipped it. You know, I look at cats who

1764
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 1: who are comparably positioned in their industry, who do things

1765
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,479
Speaker 1: differently different than I do, who earned you know, who

1766
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 1: do something different than I do, Because you mean, I

1767
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 1: see where they are and I think I want to

1768
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 1: be even them. Yes, but but the beating part is

1769
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: less about ego and more about service, meaning that when

1770
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 1: I win, we win. But one of the things I've

1771
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 1: always appreciated about you, Jean, is that you are committed

1772
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 1: to extending blessings to other people, to give and give

1773
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:38,880
Speaker 1: opportunities to other cats and identify talented individuals and help

1774
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: them build whatever it is that they have and and

1775
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: have that turn into something meaningful. Um. When when you're

1776
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 1: that kind of person, you build a team of people

1777
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: who will always be there for you. And so to

1778
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: your point, um, my farewell wells comments to the first

1779
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:08,120
Speaker 1: school that we were at, the school that we founded, Um,

1780
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,599
Speaker 1: when I left, what I said, my sons attend my schools,

1781
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: and UM, what I said was thank you to them

1782
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 1: for all of the nights that you went to bed

1783
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: and I wasn't there, all the morning that you woke

1784
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: up and I wasn't there. And that my hope and

1785
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: prayer is that one day, when you feel like I'm

1786
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: the worst human being on earth, you would come across

1787
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 1: somebody who will take the time to say thank you

1788
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 1: for the time that you contributed to my life by

1789
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,639
Speaker 1: allowing your father to help us to build the schools

1790
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 1: in our community. I mean, one of the things that

1791
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: tripped me, Iris Shaun, is I don't understand how people

1792
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: do when I don't how people do what I do

1793
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 1: could ever be seen as controversial. I don't know what's

1794
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: controversy sure about black people open up schools in the

1795
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: black community, except for the fact that it's black people

1796
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 1: open up schools in the black community, which means sensibly

1797
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: self determination. It means that whenout waiting for him, I'm

1798
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: not asking, but I'm not asking anybody permission. I don't

1799
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 1: ask who we're writing curriculum. IDEM say, do you think

1800
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna offend people? As anybody not? That's not my problem,

1801
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: doesn't defend me, even you. They don't go send your

1802
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 1: child in my school. Well, you know. The beauty of

1803
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: you Dr Steve Perry one of the leading voices, uh,

1804
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: you know when he says that by his sons. I

1805
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: remember it was a run dad. Every year I watched

1806
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: them grow, you know, I watched them grow everything pop

1807
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: up annual sophomore year, you know, you know, and go

1808
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: to the camps and Steve Harvey and then go to

1809
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:50,599
Speaker 1: the Dreams Academy. So at least twice a year watching

1810
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: brow up, you know. And the beauty of that is

1811
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: that respect. They understood their dad, They understood the small

1812
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 1: they knew the value of effort. They knew the value

1813
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: of making a difference. And when I look at you

1814
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 1: and I look at the progress that you made as

1815
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: a person I've honestly met, is that you know, we

1816
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 1: we the television route has been made available to you.

1817
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 1: You just did the Fix My Life episode series, uh

1818
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:18,600
Speaker 1: last season? Where is that in your life? Is is

1819
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: being on television a new priority or what's going on

1820
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: in your life from a television perspective? Dr Stevens, You know,

1821
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,559
Speaker 1: television for me is a vehicle to tell the story

1822
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: of the work that we're doing in the community, as

1823
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, and what your viewers are getting access to

1824
01:43:35,479 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 1: is the kind of conversation that you and I have

1825
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:40,400
Speaker 1: had two or three hundred times. It's the same conversation

1826
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: where you know, you've seen people present me with TV

1827
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: projects and I've never I don't turn them down. It's

1828
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: not my thing. But my focus is primarily on running

1829
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 1: the schools. I know that's crazy for some people who

1830
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 1: whose air is to be seen by people, but I

1831
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:00,760
Speaker 1: know that there's another side to that, and there's a

1832
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 1: cost to that as well as you well know. And

1833
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: you can't undring that bell. Uh So I am so

1834
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: grateful to uh Ayana and Oprah for the opportunity and

1835
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,720
Speaker 1: the opportunities. You also know this, you never know what's

1836
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna happen with televisions. So the conversation is I'll put

1837
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: it this way, and you know you understand this as well.

1838
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 1: I'll be as specific as I can without getting myself

1839
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 1: jammed up. Um, there is fevered conversation between a number

1840
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 1: of entities as to what to do because there's there's

1841
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: been a there's been a long interest from our backs

1842
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: when we did, say my son of extending that work.

1843
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,640
Speaker 1: There are people who are still very interested in that.

1844
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 1: Some of those people in the posistence of power at networks,

1845
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 1: some of them are at streaming services, and I think

1846
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 1: that they wanted to see how how the most recent

1847
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to see if I still

1848
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: got it, but they wanted to see it again in person,

1849
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 1: so they got to see that again. And UM, I

1850
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 1: think that I think that the open win Free Network,

1851
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: among others, I'm going to be really frank with you,

1852
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that the OPRAH Win Free Network among others,

1853
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: UM saw the Universal University positive reaction to the work.

1854
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 1: I think that people were I think I'll just tell

1855
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 1: you what people said, the internet was a buzz with

1856
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 1: very very very high positive and you know how hard

1857
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,519
Speaker 1: that is to achieve, you know, because we know where

1858
01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 1: we're going. Everybody sees you serious. You are a fun guy.

1859
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: You know we're we're realist. You smile, you know, you're

1860
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 1: like you know, you know where the party is. So

1861
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: so I know that you you gotta keep in looping

1862
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,559
Speaker 1: this because I'm telling you, man, I cannot let them

1863
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 1: not see the three the full three sixty of you.

1864
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: You know, yes your passion, Yes you're driven to change.

1865
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 1: But man, come on, now, can we see you smile

1866
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: on tv dtry? Can we see that? We see that?

1867
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 1: What you know when it's just you know what it

1868
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: is is it's hard to smile. What I'm trying to

1869
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: save the kids, and that's usually what you get to

1870
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 1: see me do. Um, But they don't get to see.

1871
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 1: They don't get to see uh us in Hot Texas

1872
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 1: just sitting back cooking meat and laughing for hours, literally

1873
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 1: trying not to get eaten by every on earth. Um.

1874
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: They don't see that because it's just not an opportunity.

1875
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: But listen to me when I say that. When I

1876
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: say that, the reason I'm dropping that into your conversation

1877
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 1: because that's you. Because see what happens, what happens with

1878
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: producers see things a certain way because that's their mind.

1879
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you change lives on the different levels.

1880
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 1: You can smile and change a child's life. I've seen

1881
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: you do that on a regular basis. I've seen you

1882
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: at Disney, I've seen you at Camp. I've seen you

1883
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 1: an other speaking opportunities. We smiled, we walked in the room,

1884
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: We make a decision. I'm just telling you, if that

1885
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: television opportunity presents itself, please be you at all levels.

1886
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,800
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you saying that one of the challenges.

1887
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 1: So again, let's just have a real conversation. So one

1888
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: of the reasons why the TV one thing didn't work

1889
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: out is because I couldn't do what I think they

1890
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Speaker 1: wanted me to do, which is to get up in

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01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: boys chests and and dumn love. I don't talk the

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01:47:58,280 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 1: kids like that. I don't. I don't the kids like that.

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01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 1: I'll talk to mine like that sometimes, but not everybody else's.

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Speaker 1: And I can take liberties with mine because the mine,

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Speaker 1: but I don't even take I'll try to avoid take

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Speaker 1: them even with them, because nobody responds really well to that.

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Speaker 1: I say all that to say, one of the challenges

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Speaker 1: there is about capturing that part of the nuances of

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01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: my personality. They wanted something I didn't have. Similarly when Fox,

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Speaker 1: when I was doing the daytime piece with Fox, then

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Speaker 1: they it's it's like the poles. They either want the

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Speaker 1: the you know, like I'll bust your ass kind of

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01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 1: uh Joe Clarkey guy. The other one they want is

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01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 1: this goofy Wayne Brady character. And I'm not Dissa Wayne Brady,

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Speaker 1: but you understand what I'm saying, Like it's just this

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01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: goofy uh amorphous you know, you can tell these African

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01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 1: American but you're not gonna hear anything about his cultural

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01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:56,600
Speaker 1: underpinnings as they relate to come through. They wanted me

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Speaker 1: to be something that almost was Kelly Clarkson slash. Ellen asked,

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Speaker 1: and sure, we can have those kinds of conversations, No

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Speaker 1: doubt that's what you and I would do. We have

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Speaker 1: those kinds of conversations. But I'm not silly. You understand

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm not a silly person. That's

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Speaker 1: I'm just not, never have been, never will be um.

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Speaker 1: There are different ways in which we can laugh and

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Speaker 1: be relatable that are still respectful of who we are

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Speaker 1: a man. You're not a silly. I don't anybody wants

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Speaker 1: say rashan silly like that ridiculous. You know, if you laugh,

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Speaker 1: you joke, anybody call you still. You are serious cat.

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot of time in making people laugh

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Speaker 1: for a living, but it's serious about your business absolutely.

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Speaker 1: You know. The thing about it we're gonna wrap up

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Speaker 1: here is that because I want to talk to some

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Speaker 1: stuff offline as well about this, because you're right, that's

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01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: my life. My life is about shaping people's opportunities. My

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Speaker 1: life is about giving you some stuff that may not

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Speaker 1: even benefit me. And when I look at you, you've

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01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 1: always been a benefit not only to me, but the

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Speaker 1: people around me and the people that I invited you

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Speaker 1: into the world to make a change. Like to Steve Perry,

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Speaker 1: your blessing brother. Your family is a blessing, and the

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Speaker 1: fact you have five schools is going to be more.

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Speaker 1: And when you leave this earth, you will be that

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Speaker 1: game changer. You will be that competitive guy that said

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Speaker 1: I made a difference, and then people will show up

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Speaker 1: and show you as they line up and walk past

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Speaker 1: that casket and tell you thank you, and cry and

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Speaker 1: and remember that he made a difference in my life,

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Speaker 1: my children's life, and my grandparents life and made create

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Speaker 1: the nixt lefigacy of growth and the opportunity for kids

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Speaker 1: who didn't have it. And just seeing you, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling your brother, you're special. You've always been special

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Speaker 1: to me, man. And we don't talk enough. I will

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Speaker 1: tell you that I will be ill, be remissing not

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01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: saying that, and we need to start talking more. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it. And Okay, it's gonna happen as soon as

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Speaker 1: I hang up this this call. Here, my brother with you,

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Speaker 1: this video show, we're gonna talk some more. There. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna thank you for coming on money making conversations. Okay, alright, pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Please remember always lead with your gifts and don't let

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Speaker 1: your age, friends, family, or co workers stop you from

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Speaker 1: planning or living your dreams. In this season of giving,

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Speaker 1: Coals has gifts for all your loved ones. For those

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Speaker 1: who like to keep it cozy, find fleeces, sweaters, loungeware, blankets,

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Speaker 1: and throws. Or support minority owned or founded brands by

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Speaker 1: giving gifts from human nation and shame moisture. And in

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Speaker 1: the spirit of giving, Coals Cares is donating eight million

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Speaker 1: dollars to local nonprofits nationwide. Give with all your heart

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Speaker 1: this season with great gifts from Coals or coals dot com. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're back. Well the Act season to your folks, and

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Speaker 1: do you know? Hi? There? Whoa where do you come from?

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Speaker 1: April Here to tell you about the tax filing software

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Speaker 1: from Tax Act. Seriously? Were you like hiding behind my desk? Seriously?

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Speaker 1: Tax Act makes it easy to get your maximum refund.

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Speaker 1: Well you heard it here first, folks, Switch to Tax

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Speaker 1: Act today and you can start for free or as

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Speaker 1: we say in radio Land, subtle Tax Act file for

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Speaker 1: less and get more. Restrictions apply prices at filing subject

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Speaker 1: to James the Tax Act dot com for details. What

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Speaker 1: girls in the forest, our imagination and our family bonds.

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Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest

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Speaker 1: near you and discover the Forest dot Org. Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the United States Forest Service and the AD

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