1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Seahawks Insiders Second down and two 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: the hand off the penny at the fifteen at five 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: in to Seahawks Getting You Ready for Seahawks Football Every 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Sunday first and tended to Seattle forty play Faked Stafford's 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: gonna stop, gonna look gets hit gulf down back a 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: midfield Getting to him in the backfield is GARYL. Taylor. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Here's your host, Gen Mueller. Welcome to the Seahawks Insiders podcast. 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: It is a bonus edition today as we get you 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: ready for the NFL Draft, and this is the episode 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: you didn't know you needed, but you have always wanted 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: because it is not just me and John Boyle from 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks dot Com today, it is Seattle's own Mina Kimes. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: At least we are claiming her John. There's no way 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: we are not going to call her Seattle Zone today. Mina, 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: welcome in. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Well, 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: thank you for making some time. Because John and I 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: talk about the Seahawks every week during this season. We 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: have already shared our thoughts on what's happened in the 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: offseason and what we think the Seahawks should do in 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: the draft. But it's going to be good to get 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: some outside perspective. Besides that, John tends to tune me 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: out after a little while. That is not true. I 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: feel like I feel like you're just being polite for 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: our guest right now. John Never John tells me a trader, 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: and he's been doing I think he's probably kept that 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: bit up longer than anyone. You know what I'm doing. 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: I have not tweeted that in a long time, and 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: I was not going to bring it up on this podcast. 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: One bit you volunteered for those who don't know. In 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: addition to all the wonderful work, Mina does it ESPN 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and on her podcast, she also does pregame radio. Is 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: it radio or is it their TV broadcast? It's the 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: TV broadcast for the Los Angeles Rams. So yes, many 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: people on Seahawks Twitter are call her a trader. It's 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: just to spell it wrong. Yeah, you have to correctly, 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: intentionally incorrectly spell it t R A D E. I 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I really thought you'd get after it. When Bobby Wagner 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: signed with the Rams, I feel like Bobby and I 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: are both traders now. Well, well, I think different circumstances there. 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would call Bobby that. I'm 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: not even going to call you that. I mean, like however, 42 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I'm to be clear, I make facetious. 43 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: Bobby every right to putting the rams. I'm super happy 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: for him, wishing him nothing but success. Great guy. It 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: is going to be so weird to see him in 46 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: that uniform though, totally I want to see him, Yes, 47 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I know, I just I don't know about that uniform 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: on him. I don't know. I think the number might 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: be part of the problem too, throwing me it is. 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: It is a big problem. Okay, Well, Mina, you've taken 51 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: us right to a couple of things. As I mentioned, 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: John and I have already broken down what the Seahawks 53 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: have done in the offseason. I don't think fans need 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: to have their memory refreshed as to some of the 55 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: big moves there before we get to Bobby and what 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: happens with the defense and who shoulders that load. When 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: we think about Russell Wilson being with the Broncos, and 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: now that's a whole lot easier because we have actually 59 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: seen him participate in camps with his new teammates, in 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: the new colors, in a Broncos uniform. How much more 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: different do you think the Seahawks offense looks without Russ? 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: Pretty different, But it's a hard question to am. We 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: don't know who's playing quarterback for the Seahawks. I mean 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: right now, obviously the starting quarterback is Drew Locke, and 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: with him and with offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, I think 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: there will be some differences from the offense with Wilson, 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: which he honestly Russell Wilson. The way he plays, the 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of offense that that necessitates is very unique. So 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: whatever player comes in, I would say maybe there's like 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: a if it was like a Malik Willis in the drafts, 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: you see some more similarities. But with Locke, you know, 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: you saw in Denver emphasis on play action the deep ball. 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: He can make plays with his feet a little bit, 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: so there'd be some similarities. I suspect they would probably 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: want to lean in more to what Waldrin did with 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: the Rams if Drew Locke was a quarterback. Now again 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: I keep saying if, because I don't know these Lake 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: quarterback and if a CX were too, I don't know. 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Actually trade for Baker Mayfield, who said today that it's 80 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: very casually it seems like Theattle is most likely option 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: or draft a quarterback. You're talking about totally different offenses 82 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: depending on who's under center or not under center in 83 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: some of these guys cases. Now, you obviously, you know, 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: you wear the two hats of ESPN analysts and Seahawks 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: fan and the trade I know hit you pretty hard 86 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: when it happened back then. Have you come around at 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: all on maybe if your stands changed at all, or 88 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: have you walked yourself off the ledge at all since then? Yeah? 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: You know so, I'm of two feelings about this, you know. 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: One I've tried to kind of anytime you move on 91 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: to one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, and 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, guy who defined a franchise, there's going to 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: be backlash and confusion and uncertainty. I have said on 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: my podcast, I kind of talked you through. I think 95 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: we talked to you through the day of which is 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: you want to listen to like real time therapy, just 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: listen to from that day? Oh god. But but you know, 98 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: there's some there's certainly a case to be made for 99 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: doing it. And in a way to understand Seattle's point 100 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: of view, I think this was a divorce that was 101 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: a long time coming based on some of the reporting 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years, A lot of that 103 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: clearly initiated by Wilson himself. I mean, anytime you put 104 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: out the names of teams here wanting to be trained 105 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: to it's pretty hard to have gone responsibility. But I 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: also think, you know, he's a quarterback who has struggled 107 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: a bit over the last couple of years, obviously very injured, 108 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: is in his thirties, and is going to make crazy 109 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: money on his next contract based on where these dollaris 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: are going. So I think possible that Seattle felt the 111 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: front office felt, hey, we've hit our ceiling here. We 112 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: don't see the quarterback getting better, and if we're going 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: to commit to him at you know, fifty million dollars 114 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: a year, which is I think quite realistic, that might 115 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: not be the best decision, especially given the fact that 116 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: he might we can't tell if he wants to say 117 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: or he doesn't want to stay or whatever. So that 118 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: side of it. Give the side of it though, John 119 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: is like, it's hard for me to evaluate without knowing 120 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: what their plan is, and I keep going to that, like, 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like I sound like a broken record, 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: But like people keep asking me, is Seattle rebuilding? Are 123 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: they retooling? Are they blowing things up? And I don't 124 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: have an answer for that because it's still a little 125 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: bit uncleared for me. Yeah, I would say, and rebuild 126 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: is certainly something we have heard players address and coaches 127 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: address as being a word that is not being said 128 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: inside the building. And I think that there's a case 129 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: to be made, and I know that it doesn't look 130 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: like that from the outside. I think that there's a 131 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: case to be made that it is not a rebuild. 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I think you could say retooling. And John and I 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: were talking about this just a few minutes ago, just 134 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of in preparing for this. What happens if this 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: is more of a bridge year. What happens if this 136 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: is the year where you are gaining some of those 137 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: pieces that you need and gaining some valuable experience, because 138 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: going back to the playoffs would be a step forward. 139 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: Winning ten games would be a step forward, and it 140 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: would get some of these guys that are new to 141 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: the roster and whoever gets drafted the experience they need 142 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: to then go out and really build on it in 143 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, right, I mean, there's a case to 144 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: be made for that. Yeah, for me, the case would 145 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: be less um getting to the playoffs and more accumulating 146 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: assets clearing They've cleared Tonic cav space next year, by 147 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: the way, you know the Wilson trade didn't clear are 148 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: absolutely Yeah, twenty three looks beautiful and um saying Okay, 149 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: next year, we're going to attack the quarterback position. I 150 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: will say, you know, that's always a question mark though, 151 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of teams with their 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: eyes on Bryce Young CJ. Straut. But you know, I 153 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: can I can see that case because, like I've spent 154 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: the last week or so watching draft prospects and watching 155 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in this draft, but then also watching like 156 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Alabama receivers, and those two quarterbacks are fantastic. 157 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 1: I mean, they would be the number one and two 158 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: in this class if they were you know, actually draftable. 159 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: So I can see the argument for Seattle saying, hey, 160 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: like you said, this is a bridge year, let's start clearingcap. 161 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Let's commit to a few guys that we want to 162 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: be part of the next you know, the next franchise really, 163 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll be ready to get a quarterback next year. Well, 164 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: and I guess too when I look at what you know. Again, 165 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: however you want to label it, I know they don't 166 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: want to use word rebuild. But the NFL is different 167 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: than other sports, is you you know, the turnaround can 168 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: happen fast. Obviously, you need to find that quarterback. But 169 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: if you tear it all down, like I think some 170 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: people think, oh it's a rebuild trade, everybody get draft 171 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: picks and go two and fifteen. If you tear it 172 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: all down and then you find the right quarterback, that 173 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: guy's coming into a terrible position totally. You know, if 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: you do it's not easy. But if you find the 175 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: right guy and you have some talent around him, you 176 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: can bounce back and be really good, really quickly. So 177 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: I got into a bit of a disagree with my 178 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: colleague Danilowski about this on NFL Live on Monday, because 179 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: I've heard that before. He's always he, I swear, is 180 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: obsessed with raising the Seahawks to the ground. He was 181 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: calling for the Wilson trade forever. But I said, I don't. 182 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: I think they might do it. I'm not saying I 183 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: want them to, but we're talking aout kamecof because obviously 184 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot of rumors floating around about trade, you know, 185 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: proposals from the Jets and this and that. And you 186 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: know he was arguing they should trade him their rebuilding, 187 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: get picks whatever, and I disagreed with him for a 188 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. So, yes, he's going to make a 189 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: ton of money. We're seeing these wide receiver contracts handed out, 190 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 1: but dicamcap is twenty four years old, you know, like 191 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: these other wide receivers that we're talking about, like Tyrrey Hill, 192 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Davante Adams, who are getting crazy money. By the way, 193 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: their money is often, like in the case of Adams, 194 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: not as crazy when you actually look at the real contracts. 195 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: You know they're old earth than him, and like a 196 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: twenty four year old X receiver, homegrown superstar is the 197 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: kind of player you pay, especially when, as we discussed, 198 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: they have a lot of cap space. And John, I 199 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: completely agree with you about if the plan is to 200 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: set the table for the next quarterback, the worst thing 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: you can do is just totally destroy your offense and 202 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: have you know, if he has no one to throw too. 203 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: So I think with rebuilds, sorry, retools or whatever we 204 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: want to call it, something you see around the NFL 205 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: is you got to have a few core guys, And 206 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: to me, DK Metcalf is one of those guys. Now 207 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: if we're talking about pick four, but I do I 208 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: would lean towards keeping him for that reason. Well, and 209 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: then what are you gonna do if you get rid 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: of him? Now you're gonna go and try to find 211 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: the next Dk Metcalf in the draft? I mean, what 212 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: did you just accomplish there? Right? Like? You have your guy? 213 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: And I will say this for Seahawks fans who have 214 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: been listening to this podcast for a while and who 215 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: who have taken a look at what the Hawks have 216 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: done on their coaching staff, here's the name that people 217 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: are not talking about a lot associated with Dk Metcalf 218 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: is Sam Jay Law, who comes back to the Hawks 219 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: as one of their wide receivers gurus that help DK 220 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: make a jump a year ago. Then he left and 221 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: was coaching in Jacksonville. There is reason to believe that 222 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: there is another leap that we see DK make this year, 223 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: regardless of who the quarterback is, just because he's at 224 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: that point in his career where he can refine a 225 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: little bit more. And I know that there's a question 226 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: marker on the quarterback, but on and mean I also 227 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: think that it will come down to Shane Waldron. And 228 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: if you could run this system with Jared Goff, I mean, 229 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: who's to say you can't run it with Drew Luck. 230 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: I know that's not fair, that's not fair, that's not nice. 231 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: But what if? What if it's the system that makes 232 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback instead of the quarterback that makes the system. 233 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: There are teams in the NFL that have that game 234 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: plan who don't have a Russell Wilson. Right, what if 235 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: that's the case very different than what we've seen in 236 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Seattle the last few years. John is giving me this 237 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: look like, are you crazy? I can't be that crazy. Yeah, yeah, 238 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: I think you're You're You've landed on something important, which 239 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: is I do like the coaches. Stop short of calling 240 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: me crazy, folks, Well half of what you said, which 241 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: is I like the idea of Jane Waldron. We're working 242 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: with a quarterback who can actually who will run a system. 243 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm not where you get where Drew Luck? I ask 244 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a yeah, I don't know that 245 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: was a word if, But yes, there are some guys 246 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: in the draft that I think could yea and if 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: they were to go that road, I think it could 248 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: be really interesting. And while we're on coaching staff, but 249 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take on what they did 250 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: on defense. I think some people have thought Pete Carroll is, 251 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, set in his way with his cover three 252 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: and everything's gonna be the same forever, and it's his 253 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: defense no matter who the coordinators. But it seems like 254 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: he's more open this offseason to change than we've seen 255 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: before and brought in, you know, Sean Desai and Carl 256 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: Scott and handed the keys over to Clint Hurt. Just 257 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: what have you thought about the coaching changes. I love 258 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: the hires, and I would also note, you know, I 259 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: think Pete Carroll has actually changed the defensive bit over 260 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: the years. I think from the outside this kind of 261 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: narrative that it's stuck and it's been the same and 262 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: it's this old school and they're just trying to do 263 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: cover three. But that's not really true. Especially I would 264 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: note over the second half or so of last season, 265 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: you did see some of the evolution that I think 266 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: is going to continue with these hires. And it's no 267 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: coincidence that all of the rumors, not just about the 268 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: coaches they did hire, but the coaches that Pete Carroll 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: was interviewing were from that sort of Vic Fangio school, 270 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: which I suspect is what they're going to do in 271 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: the past defense now and then, of course we know 272 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be free four and stuff. Whether they have 273 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: the personnel to accomplish it, I think that's an open 274 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: question and one that will certainly come up in the 275 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: draft well, and I think that that is what that 276 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: would be what I hope they address with their first 277 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. But with that in mind, and 278 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: the way that defenses have changed and the way that 279 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: this defense in particular has evolved, which person or position 280 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: group shoulders more of that load without Bobby? Because we've 281 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: been so used to Bobby, not just with the number 282 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: of tackles and the number of plays that he's been 283 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: in on, He's known that defense backwards and forwards. I mean, 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: he's called everything in that defense for the last ten years. 285 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: Who do you think takes on more of that? You know, 286 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see if Quandrie Digs actually takes 287 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: on more of that kind of quarterback of the defense role, 288 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: because that's something we've seen around the NFL more and 289 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: more is safeties wearing the green dot and sort of 290 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: directing things. And I think, again with the changing defense, 291 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: it just makes sense with his intellect experience. You know, 292 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: I was thrilled they brought him back because you know, 293 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: earlier I was talking about like, okay, whether it's a 294 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: rebuild a retool, you have to have guys, and he 295 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: is the definition of a culture setter and my interactions 296 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: with him, just hearing from other players, it was really 297 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: important to bring him back, and I think I could 298 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: see him kind of stepping up into that leadership role. 299 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: As far as the sort of front seven football side 300 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: of it, obviously Cody Barton's going to have to take 301 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: a step up. I'll be curious to see whether Jordan 302 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: Brooks role changes at all from that kind of you know, 303 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Sea bullgetball kind of. And then the defensive line, not 304 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: the edge rushers, but the interior interior is I think 305 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: the strength of this unit now. And I love the 306 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: additions they made. You know, Alwood's Quintin Jefferson bringing him 307 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: back such an underrated player, and then of course my 308 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: beloved Punaford. So I think if they can be super 309 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: stout against the run, you know, playing more of that 310 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: kind of gap and a half style up front. I 311 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: think that could go a long way towards helping the 312 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: run defense, which is of course something that Bobby really 313 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: really held down for years. This came up with Clinton 314 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: hurt right when he was hired. But for this defensive staff, 315 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: how much is figuring out how to best use Jamal 316 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: Adams a priority in your mind? I think it's enormous, 317 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: and I think I suspect that all of the defensive 318 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: coaches we mentioned too were hired. We're probably that was 319 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: the first question they asked, what is your plan for 320 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Jamal Adams personally? I'd be very curious to see how 321 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: he fits into that again, fanto style defense, because he's 322 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: a pretty unique player. He's obviously a very unique player 323 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: and sort of is different, you know. I was going 324 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: back and looking at some the defenses that all of 325 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: these guys have worked on, and he's a sort of 326 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: a unit. There's not really a precedent for him there. 327 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: So I think we're going to probably see some innovative usage, 328 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: you know, finding ways to get him around the ball more, 329 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: but also asking him to improve and coverage this. I 330 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: think he's obviously an extremely motivated player, and so you know, 331 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised as he has a real comeback 332 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: season with these new coaches. Well, and I think is 333 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: so many of the guys have pointed out, you're not 334 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: in base defense very often. For as much as we 335 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: talk about what that front looks like and what that 336 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: means for your coverage on the back end, you're going 337 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: to be in nickel and dime so much just because 338 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: of the teams that you're playing, particularly in the division 339 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: that I do think that there's a lot of opportunity 340 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: there for creativity. And I know just from a style 341 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: of coaching, Clint Hurt is going to be more aggressive 342 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: in the way he calls a game, which would then 343 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: open up more opportunities for Jamal Adams just by virtue 344 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: of the way the game is called, not even where 345 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: he's positioned to make a few more of those plays. 346 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: What are we still missing from off season moves? And 347 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: this could be either free agent moves or this could 348 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: be part of what the Seahawks need in a draft. 349 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: But Mina, what are you disappointed they have not gotten 350 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: done yet? How about if we start there? Well, you know, 351 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: I think you got to start with quarterback again. But 352 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about this that the quarterback question 353 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: I think really is a will be a referendum on 354 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: how they view this season, you know what I mean, Like, 355 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: do they really want to draft someone I saw mocked 356 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: the other day where they spent the nine on I 357 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: forget if it was Tipodeaux or Steeley, one of the 358 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: blue chip defensive picks, and then using forty and forty 359 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: one grabbed Desmond Ritter. I would absolutely love it if 360 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: they did that, seeing a quarterbacks who I think can 361 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: run Shane Waldren's system, but if they don't, if they do, 362 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: are looking at this as a true bridgeier, you know, 363 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: with through Locke, the needs are pretty obvious. I think 364 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: it's they're kind of glaring offensive tackle and cornerback. I 365 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: think edge rusher as well. But you know, right now, 366 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean the offense. I don't know what's going on 367 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: with Dwayne Brown and I think Brandon Chell's still unsigned, 368 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: but ideally they would bring one of those players back. 369 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: I would love if they were able to bring Brown back, 370 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be surprised if that's a position they 371 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: address early in the draft instead of defense. Yeah, we're 372 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: before we started, we were talking about that with tackle it. 373 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: They've got three guys under contract right now, all guys 374 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: you know, rookies last year or two of them undrafted. Yeah, 375 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: that's if you're not resigning somebody. I think that's a 376 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: no brainer in the draft. Yeah. But then, but as 377 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: we were talking about this, and as I go on 378 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: my bring back Dwayne Chant and Bandwagon on that one, 379 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: if you don't, you were putting a lot of pressure 380 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: on whoever it is that you pick in the draft 381 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: because you were expecting them to play right away, and 382 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: not just play, but contribute right away. And I think 383 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: that this goes hand in hand with how you view 384 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback in the system. Right, If you don't give 385 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: them somebody up front, or if you can't, if you 386 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: can't help them up front, then how are you ever 387 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: going to accurately evaluate what your quarterback can do and 388 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: what the offense can do? Right? I mean there's a 389 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: whole this is all interconnected totally. Yeah, and it's I 390 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: think because of there are sort of the three glaring needs. 391 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: I guess I said too, but I'll throw Edge Rusher 392 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: in there. It really to me, I wouldn't be surprised 393 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: if it just comes down to best player available. Yeah, 394 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: you know, if Derek Stingley's there, you take him, you know, 395 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: and Thibodo's off the board, and maybe the top tackles aren't. 396 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: Like although I would take stingly over honestly a tackle personally, 397 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: I think he's that good. I think just he is 398 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the kind of player that you can build a defense around. 399 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: Or if Thibodos there, Thibodau prom me like, I think 400 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: it really is gonna Let me put it this way, 401 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks would be thrilled if Carolina takes a quarterback. 402 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: I think I don't expect them to go quarterback with nine, 403 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: but you know, I could be shocked. But I think 404 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: if those picks can be used on positions like wide receiver, quarterback, 405 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: whatever that the Seahawks don't need, I think they would 406 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: be over the moon because there could be some really 407 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: really talented blue chivers available. Yeah, are you team take 408 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: the best person at nine or if there's a few 409 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: guys you like, do you move back and stock up 410 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: on more picks later on? Um? I think it kind 411 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: of depends on the trade down out and son to hedge. 412 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: But like the trade down opportunity, I think you really 413 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: want a chip, blue chip guy. So if it was 414 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: to move down to like, you know, eleven or twelve, 415 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: everyone's side, that's fine, But I don't think. I think, 416 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: given where the Seahawks are with a roster and how 417 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: important it is to find those again, fundament like core pieces, 418 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: I would prefer that they pick high in this year. Well. 419 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: And when you talk about an EDG Dresher, you're getting 420 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: into that same conversation as a wide receiver, right. You're 421 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: either going to have to go and pay him money 422 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: on the open market, or you can get the best 423 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: available build the defense around them. And I do think, 424 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and some of this is just kind of watching how 425 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: expectations have aligned with players and where they have been 426 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: drafted in Seattle over the last few years. I think 427 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: some of it is managing expectations and what do you 428 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: expect to get out of that position. You're going to 429 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: get a lot out of an ed drusher, That's what 430 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: I would say, not that you don't need to tackle, 431 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: but that's why I'm on Team ed Dresher with number nine. 432 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: But I keep making my case to John and he 433 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: keeps looking at me again like I'm a little crazy. Oh, 434 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: we're bringing him around to our side. I've never numbered 435 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: on your side. Jan, I'm always on your side. It's 436 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: just it's who's there, right. If I Quanu's actually there 437 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: and you're weighing him against like a Jermaine Johnson, I 438 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: would take a quantu If Derek Stingley's there a little 439 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: different and you're really just like I think it's just 440 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: such a rich position. Obviously once when we have not 441 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: seen the Seawks drafted at a very very long time, 442 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: that it's just a real opportunity to find a superstar. Yep, 443 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: I would agree, and the Seahawks have a potential to 444 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: get I don't know about a lot of superstars, but 445 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: a lot of players. Our last question as we wrap 446 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: up here mina, because it is kind of a running 447 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: joke around the Seahawks eight picks, that is what John 448 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: Schneider is going into this draft with. Do you think 449 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: they make all eight picks or do you think they 450 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: acquire more picks over under? On eight picks, I'm gonna 451 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: go under. I know that's not that's not how this 452 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: team operates, and I know that it's likely that you 453 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: know in the past we've seen them obviously trade down 454 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: to ton and you know, especially out of the early rounds, 455 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: much to the frustration of fans. But I think there's 456 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure now to find young, real talent, 457 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: not just make bets, not to say, hey, maybe this 458 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: fourth round addresser will work out or whatever. No, I 459 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: think they really need to come out of this graph 460 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: with a couple of the next pillars of the franchise. 461 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: And to that end, I think it's entirely possible that 462 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: forty forty one, you know, they might move up into 463 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the end of the first round. Maybe that's crazy, but 464 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if it happens. Is here, I'm 465 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: here for crazy fun. Yeah, that'd be fun. Over under over, 466 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: I'll just disagree with me. I think it is that 467 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: is based on precedent that makes I think they go 468 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: back once in the first round. Not far, but I 469 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: could see a scenario where there's they've got four guys 470 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: they kind of have graded the same at number nine, 471 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: and they go back to twelve or so. Again, I'm 472 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: just past precedent. What they tend to do is I'm 473 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: just excited for them to draft a player we've heard of. 474 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: Man's last time that happened, Not that googling. Yeah, who 475 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: is now? Every years, everyone the old tradition in the 476 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: draft room is everyone turns and looks at Rob Ran 477 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: and goes, who is this guy? Yes, well there should 478 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: be some names that we recognize coming off the board. 479 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: When the Seahawks have their pick, whether it's actually picked 480 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: number nine, whether or they trade back they go in 481 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: with eight, I'm gonna go with the over just because 482 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: of past precedent. But to Mina's point, I would love 483 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: to see a little crazy. I would also love to 484 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: see a little bit more Mina Kimes, thanks so much 485 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: for making time for us. This has been awesome. Thanks 486 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: for having me. Guys, let's get weird. Come on see us. 487 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Let's absolutely let's get weird. That's the perfect sign off 488 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: for this edition of the Seahawks Insiders podcast. We'll see 489 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: you next time.