1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on from one 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: until four o'clock and if you miss any part of 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the show, we now put we now released the podcasts 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: hour by hour as soon as the hour is over. 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: At the end of the one o'clock hour, shortly after 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: two pm, we put out that one o'clock podcast, and 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: the same thing after the two o'clock hour and the 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: three o'clock hour. That's the new system, so you could 10 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: download the podcast minutes after that hour is over. There's 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount going on. Two things. I guarantee you 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: we'll get to in great to tail number one, we're 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: going to talk to Lee Zelden, at least Zelden rather, 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: he's the head of the EPA and the Trump administration, 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: and he has been put in charge of the federal 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: response to the Palisades and Alt Dedena fires, the new 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 1: response as everybody's realized that the La County Supervisors and 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: Karen Bass are doing absolutely nothing to help people rebuild, 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: so the Trump administration is stepping in. Yesterday we took 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: with the head of the Small Business Administration Kelly Loffler. Today, 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: we've got the EPA administrator Lee Zelden, who's in charge 22 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: of the new federal operation out here to try to help. 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to help these people. This is just atrocious. 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: So we got that going on, and well, the wild 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: day yesterday with the Eli Times exposing Karen Bass for 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: being the liar of all liars, and she's had a response, 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and it has also caused a possible major shake up, 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: multiple shakeups, and the mayor's race. Get to all that. 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Just be patient, sit down, enjoy the afternoon. Let's go 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: to Alex Stone on the other big issue, or the 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: big story, I should say. Nancy Guthrie, the mother of 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Savannah Guthrie, the NBC Today Show anchor, still missing and 33 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: there's a tremendous amount of police and FBI resources pouring 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: into the Tucson area to try to solve this case. 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Alex explain what's going on. Yeah, so quite a bit 36 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: new to report, John and what we got from the sheriff. So, 37 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: first of all, no proof of life yet has been 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: given by anybody who may have taken the Nancy Guthrie. Nothing. 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: And the first deadline is at four pm R time. 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: Tonight that they got in that ransom note that went 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: to the local TV stations in Tucson and a TMZ, 42 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: so that is coming up tonight. They don't know if 43 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: it is real or not, but they know the deadline's 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: coming up and Savannah Gothrie and her siblings. They put 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: out that pretty heart wrenching video last night to the 46 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: kidnappers with the message to them saying, we need to. 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: Know without a doubt that she is alive and that 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: you have her. We want to hear from you and 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: we are ready to listen. 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: So the FBI is paying attention to that note because 51 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: it did include detail about an Apple Watch left unseen 52 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: and a smashed camera outside, things that the kidnapper would 53 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: have known. But that is also stuff that the Apple 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: Watch has been reported in the media and you could 55 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: pretty easily see a broken broken light or a camera. 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: So they think the letter could be a hoax, but 57 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: they don't know because it did have some details. If 58 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: they look at when was that first reported in the media. 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: That's why they don't like certain details to get out 60 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that only the kidnapper would know it, and when did 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the letter come in. But today the FBI Special Agent 62 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: in charge Heath Yankee say this. 63 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: To those imposters who are trying to take advantage and 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: profit from this situation, we will investigate and ensure you 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: were held accountable for your actions. 66 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Now, he's saying, if this turns out to be a hoax, 67 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: but there's at least one known hoax ransom letter and 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: a person's been arrested for that is in custody in Arizona. 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: And then John, we got a new timeline today. One 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: forty seven Sunday morning, her doorbell camera went offline. It disconnected. 71 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: That camera is gone. They don't know where it is. 72 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: It disappeared from the scene at two twelve am. The 73 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: cameras around the home detected a person on camera, but 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: they can't retrieve the video because she wasn't paying for 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: a subscription. So apparently if you're not paying that ring 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: or Nest subscription, the video is never kept and the 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: camera company says no video exists because there was no subscription, 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: so they weren't saving the video. So it detected a person, 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: but beyond that, they don't know who it was or 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: even really what it was. Sheriff Chris Nanos said today 81 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: saying this, that's what it. 82 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: Says, so the detects a person on camera. Could that 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: be an animal? 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: I imagine that's possible. We don't know that. 85 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 5: We just have no video, but we're not giving up 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 5: on that. 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: So and then at two twenty eight am, her pacemaker 88 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: disconnected from her phone and they think that that's probably 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: when she was being taken out of the home or 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: left the home. The sheriff is confirming blood on the 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: front porch. Came back to Nancy Guthrie that that was blood. 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: It looked like it was blood, but nobody knew for sure. 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: And the tons of new leads are coming in, but 94 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: they don't have a suspect or even a person of 95 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: interest who they're focused in on. He says, they have nobody, 96 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: and he had some words for the media one outlet 97 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that named a person, saying that that does harm to 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: the case, but also to the person because they get 99 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: targeted by people around the world who are angry at 100 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: them or sending them messages and different things. So he's saying, 101 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: please be careful with this. And they're operating from the 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: position that she is alive, but they just don't know. 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: And the sheriff attacute. Right now, we believe Nancy is 104 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: still out there. We want her home, but they say 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: they have no information that she was taken into Mexico. 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: There's the chance, he says, that this is not a kidnapping, 107 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: but from the evidence, they believe it was a kidnapping, 108 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: but they don't know. Maybe it's not the ransom note. 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: That deadline coming up tonight. They say they need that 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: proof of life. But as deadlines come and go, they 111 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: say they're going to then find out if that ransom 112 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: note was real or not. If it's not a kidnapping, 113 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: what would it possibly be. She didn't leave on her 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: own accord. Yeah, that that that sheriff makes strange statements 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: at times. Well, I mean, I think the issue is 116 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: that they don't know what it is. You know, did 117 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: she finds some way to walk out and they haven't 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: found her and she's, you know, somewhere in the area. 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: They don't know. They put up a fifty thousand dollars 120 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: reward today that the FBI did for either her safe 121 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: return or for the capture of the people responsible for 122 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: her kidnapping, if in fact that's what it is. But 123 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: they haven't had any contact from anybody. They don't know 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: if the ransom note is real. They've had no indication 125 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: that she's dead or alive. They just they don't know. 126 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: I imagine in this era they're getting inundated with all 127 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: kinds of crack pots. Yeah, who're giving them all kinds 128 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: of fake whip the es yes tips notes. According to 129 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: the criminal complaint of the one guy, that he texted 130 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: the family some note because he just wanted to see 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: if they would respond, if he could get a response 132 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: out of them, And now he's facing federal charges. But 133 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: it could be that it could be to try to 134 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: make money. We know that the ransom note that they're 135 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: looking at it demanded millions of dollars in bitcoin. That 136 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: is one of the deadlines. The amount will go up 137 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: tonight and then next week the outcome will be much 138 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: more severe. I've also got to believe there's a lot 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: of information they're not making public for good reason. Yeah, team, 140 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: I just remember that the Coburger case, they had a 141 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of information. They were pretending they were lost in 142 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: the dark, and really they knew who it was, and 143 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: they tracked them all the way to the parents' house 144 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Yeah. Well, and we asked our team asked 145 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: the shriff that and he said, well you can believe 146 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: what you know what's going on. You know, he said, 147 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: look that we've got investigative things that we've got to do, 148 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: and he won't talk about the crime scene at all 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: because only the kidnapper. They want to know them and 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: the kidnapper, what went on, what the scene looks like, 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: so that you know, the apple watch got out there, 152 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: the blood got out there, the smashed light got out there. 153 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: That those were things that they wanted only the kidnapper 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: to know so that they could verify if somebody writes 155 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: in or calls in that that person must be authentic. 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: But some of that's been getting out there all right, 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: Alex Stone, ABC News, Thank you very much. You got it. Thanks, John. Yeah. Really, 158 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean when it reaches this level of publicity and 159 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: public interest, it usually the case is quite bizarre. But 160 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: this one really is something else, because it's so inexplicable 161 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: to take an eighty four year old woman unless you 162 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: want something for her, right because she's the mother of 163 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: a famous person, somebody that they assume has lots of money. Yeah, 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: it could be a targeted kidnapping, but then you'd say, okay, 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: this is what I want. Maybe they have, but you 166 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: got to follow up. You got to prove that the 167 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: target of the kidnapping is alive, because they're not going 168 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: to send you millions of dollars only to find out 169 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: the worst happened. All right, We've got so much to do. 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: Well die, all right, Karen Bass. It was caught telling 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: the big lie. And while she's while she's issued a 172 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: half hearted denial, there's one thing that she's not saying, 173 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: nor is anyone else in the administration or the fire 174 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: department saying. And this would settle the issue. But nobody's talking. 175 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: Now. 176 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's the one thing we're not hearing. 177 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: Next, you're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI 178 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: AM six forty. 179 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Karen Bass is, as you know, a compulsive, pathological liar, 180 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: and she keeps trying to sell stories which are just 181 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: impossible to believe. And the latest one is that she 182 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the edit and the rewrite 183 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: of the after action Fire Department report which basically exonerated 184 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: the city and the Fire Department of any incompetence or 185 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: any stupidity. And I knew instinctively it was her erasing 186 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: her responsibility and the responsibility of the people that she appointed, 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: because we've got so much news coverage and also we 188 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: got so much testimony in that civil lawsuit. And if 189 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: you remember, there was a series of witnesses in the 190 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: civil lawsuit who were getting deposed by Roger Bailey and 191 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: other attorneys who are representing thousands of Palisades residents, and 192 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: it was painting a pretty clear picture of what happened. 193 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: The original fire on January first, that was never put 194 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: out completely and firefighters still were dealing with hotspots and smoldering, 195 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: and the LA Fire Department left the scene of the 196 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: original fire, and that's where the fire re ignited, and 197 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: they were chased off by State Park rep employees. They 198 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: didn't publicize that they were being chased off, they didn't 199 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: push back very much on these employees. They simply left 200 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: and no crew was sent up there over the next 201 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: few days, despite all the warnings of extreme fire danger 202 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: and extreme wind. And it was incredible, colossal, overwhelming incompetence 203 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: and stupidity. And that's the truth. That's what happened. I 204 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: don't think any thinking person could come up with another conclusion. 205 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: And you even had former LA Fire officials testifying to 206 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: that in a Senate hearing that yeah, that's what happened. 207 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Butler, for example, who was with LA Fire Department 208 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: for thirty one years and was at the scene of 209 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: the fire because now he is chief at Redondo Beach, 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: he wrote, remember the protocols how you deal with disastrous 211 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: fires like this, and he could see that nothing was 212 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: done that should have been done. So there's no question 213 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: that that's what should have been written in the after 214 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: action report because we already knew this. We knew this 215 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: from news investigations, primarily by the LA Times, and by 216 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: what the plaintiff attorneys had been finding out from their 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: investigation and from testimony, So we knew this. She rewrites 218 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: it and pretends she has nothing to do with it 219 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: and now is accusing the LA Times of muck raking journalism. Well, 220 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: there's an easy way to end this fake dispute, because 221 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: news coverage being what it is, they lead with. The 222 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Times says there are people inside the BASS organization, 223 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: inside the Bass administration, who are saying she did rewrite 224 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: the report or ordered the rewrites. Well, the mayor is 225 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: denying such a matter. Well, the mayor says it's buck 226 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: raking journalism. It's kind of on the one hand, On 227 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: the other hand, there is no other hand. She either 228 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: did it or someone else did it. There's no question 229 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: it was rewritten. There's no question that there were six 230 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: versions of the report. Could you get could you get 231 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: that clip of the latest fire Chief, I mean more 232 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,479 Speaker 1: than one we've been playing all week. Get that one ready, 233 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: because that's that's part of the thing, part of the 234 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: answer that settles this. If Karen Bass didn't do the 235 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: rewrite or order the rewrite, why doesn't she stand up 236 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: in front of a microphone and a camera and tell 237 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: us who did? Who did? If it wasn't Karen Bass 238 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: doing the rewrite, if it wasn't Karen Bass ordering the rewrite, 239 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: who did it? Just tell us running v in a wava, 240 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: the interim fire Chief apparently was told to do to 241 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: get the rewrite facilitated. Is that speaking? He won't give it, 242 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: he won't comment. Ronnie van a Wavin, tell us who 243 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: ordered or facilitated the rework? Simple? And then you have 244 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Heimi Moore here. He's asked this directly by Fox eleven. 245 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: It's Matthew Seedorf. Play this clip. Don't have it ready? 246 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: He's the current LA Fire Department chief, and his response is, well, 247 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: what are people going to do with that information, which 248 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: implies that he knows. Of course he knows, so his 249 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: being a way of it, and so does bats just 250 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: answer the question? If you tell us who did it, 251 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: then everyone will stand down and then we'll go after 252 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: the person who ordered the rewrite. Now, I can't imagine 253 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: that anybody would else would have the power to order 254 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: or rewrite other than Karen Bass, unless it was Ronnie 255 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: vn Aweva. But he wasn't even the fire chief when 256 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: all the bad stuff happened, so why would he want 257 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: to cover for other people? He might follow orders, but 258 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: who gave the original or it's got to be Karen Bass. 259 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: And if it wasn't Karen Bass, then Karen Bass herself, 260 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: or Ronnie van Aweva or Haimi Moore or somebody would say, oh, 261 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: I know who it is. It's this person, and here's 262 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: why they did it. The only one who had the 263 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: power and the end was implicated in the decision making 264 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: would be Karen Bass. And accusing the newspaper of muck 265 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: raking when they gave you two overwhelming endorsements to become 266 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: mayor over Rick Caruso. I mean, she's a shameless liar, 267 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: shameless at deflecting and trying to change to change the subject. 268 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: You know, when she got some of the news media 269 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to do, they start changing the subject and say, well, 270 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: she's denying it. Well she's denying. Well, of course, if 271 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: you get caught like she got caught, you deny it too. 272 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: She did it, so she's got no morals, so of 273 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: course she's gonna lie and deny it. She lied and 274 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: covered up her role. She lied at the beginning. Going 275 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: back to January, she claimed that she didn't even know 276 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: that the bad winds were coming and that there was 277 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: bad fire danger. Remember that she action was on with 278 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: Alex Michaelston said, oh nobody told me. I got more 279 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: on that when we come back. 280 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from KFI Am 281 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: six forty. 282 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: For round from one until four o'clock. Moistline is eight 283 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: seven seven Moist Dady six eight seven seven Moist Dandy six. 284 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: Call in, please call in on Karen Bass's Big Lie, 285 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: or you can use the talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. 286 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna constantly reiterate this point. If Karen 287 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: Bess really believes the LA Times is wrong with its 288 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: story that she was the perpetrator either editing or ordering 289 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: the LA Fire Department report to be edited. Either she 290 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: did it herself or she ordered it to be done. 291 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: If that's wrong, tell us who did it. She knows 292 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Ronnie Vanuwavn knows the interim chief, the current chief, himI Moore, 293 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: knows himI Moore. This is what I wanted to play. 294 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: This is Heimi Moore. If you haven't heard this yet, 295 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: he said this earlier this week to Matthew Seedorf from 296 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: Fox eleven. Now listen to this stupid answer. We're closer 297 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: to learning who ordered down this report, and you ordered 298 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: that to be watered down. So, just like the mayor's 299 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: State of the City address, I think we need to 300 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: look forward. We need to look for what's ahead, that's 301 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: behind us. Kind of want those answers. Well, I understand that, 302 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: but they have to understand what are they going to 303 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: do with those answers. 304 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 6: They want to point fingers, They want to point Blaine, 305 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 6: I've taken ownership. 306 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: He makes it sound like we're all committing some kind 307 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: of sin. Right, homeowners who had their homes burned down. 308 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: You're wrong to ask who is lying on that fire 309 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: department report, because that's what it was. It was a 310 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: bunch of lies. They can call it down playing, watering down. 311 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: You're out in that lies. So who ordered the what? Hey, 312 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Haimi Mortic, just tell us we can What are you 313 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: going to do with the information? What are you going 314 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: to do with the information? Like, I'm like, I'm going 315 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: to tell his mother or father, right, don't wrap me out, 316 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: don't tell on me. Yeah, I'm not taking it to 317 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: the teacher by me really, just since I'm a taxpayer here, Okay, 318 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: that fire happened less than three miles from my house, 319 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: I have a vested interest. I oh, you know, we 320 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: hired and this is extremely minor compared to all the 321 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: fire victims, but we actually had to hire some people 322 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: to clean all the filth and ash off our entire house. 323 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, our whole outside of our home was covered 324 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: in fire ash and gunk. Yeah, I want to know who. 325 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: The reason I want the information is I want to 326 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: tell everybody who still may feel a little warm towards 327 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: Karen Bass that she is a culprit here. She is 328 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: the bad person. She doesn't get rewarded with another term 329 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: as mayor what are you gonna do with it? Then 330 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: then they'll know for sure who's responsible for covering up 331 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, like Richard Nixon eventually got bounced, right, he know, 332 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: sports to resign why because he was covering up his crimes. 333 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: She's covering up her crimes. I think a lot of 334 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: this actually should be real crimes that she'd go to 335 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: jail for. We're gonna point fingers, Yes, we're gonna point fingers, Yes, 336 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna point blame. Because the people involved in this 337 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: should never work in government again. Karen Bass should never 338 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: hold office, and whatever fire officials were responsible should be 339 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: out of the fire department. They should be forced to retire. 340 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: They should resign. They ought to give up their stupid 341 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: pensions too. Maybe they ought to be charged. Maybe some 342 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: of the fire officials ought to be charged criminally. That's 343 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: what we want to do with the information. Point fingers, 344 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: point blame. That's our information. We paid for this. What 345 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with it? Like a kid? What 346 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with it? But do whatever I 347 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: want with it. People should change their voting patterns. They 348 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: should demand everybody's resignation. They should demand that they be fired, 349 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: they should demand criminal charges. We're paying for this. We 350 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: pay for Heimimore's salary, We pay for Ronnie van a 351 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: wave a salary. We pay for Karen Bass's salary. We 352 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: pay for their desks, we pay for their computers, we 353 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: pay for their chairs, their pens, their pencils, their uniforms. 354 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: We pay for it all. It's all ours, So and 355 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: that information is ours. I like, I like how you know? Well, 356 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: I was so attracted to public service. I really enjoyed 357 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: serving the public, except when the public wants a straight 358 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: answer and it's like, well, what are you gonna do 359 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: with it? That is going down to the Hall of Fame. Now. 360 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Michael Schellenberger was a great writer, and he's got a 361 00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: substack website publicnews dot com. You should subscribe to that. 362 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: Michael Schellenberger put together a list that he's reposted of 363 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: all the National Weather Service fire warnings because this was 364 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: like one of the original lies that Karen Bass told 365 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: that she didn't know the fire and the winds were coming. 366 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: So he put together the list. He's got screenshots. National 367 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: Weather Service Los Angeles January second, potential for moderate to 368 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: strong sant Ana wins and extreme fire, Extreme fire weather 369 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: conditions next Tuesday through Thursday, that would be January seventh 370 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: through ninth, along with a graphic from the National Weather 371 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: Service showing a massive wildfire that's January second. Okay now 372 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: in the Palisades, the January first fire is still smoldering, 373 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: still hot, the rocks, the tree stumps right, there's still 374 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: smoke coming out of the ground. Extreme fire weather conditions 375 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 1: January three. National Weather Service, Los Angeles critical fire conditions. 376 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Fire season will continue into the new year. Potential for 377 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: damaging north to northeast winds likely to peak next Tuesday 378 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: and Wednesday. Okay, January second, January third, January third, second warning, 379 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: fire weather watch in effect for much of Venturing LA counties. 380 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: Take action now be prepared at this point. Karen Bass 381 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: is here for January second, January third, and now January fourth. 382 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Critical fire conditions, says the National Weather Service. Fire weather 383 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: watches and high wind watches in effect. Strong damaging north 384 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: to northeast winds peaking Tuesday and Wednesday. That same day 385 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: as this warning was coming out. Mayor Karen Bass flies 386 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: to Ghana escaping the winds. January fifth. Cheese landing in 387 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: Ghana scattered down trees and power outages likely in addition 388 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: to rapid fire growth, extreme behavior with any fire starts. 389 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: This is January fifth, National Weather Service. January sixth, National 390 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: Weather Service life threatening, destructive, widespread windstorm, strong winds are coming, 391 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: a particularly dangerous situation. In other words, said the National 392 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Weather Service, this is about as bad as it gets 393 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: in terms of fire weather. January seventh, the day of 394 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: the fire, an extremely dangerous situation is unfolding. Evacuate from wildfires, 395 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: a particularly dangerous sort, a particularly dangerous situation. Today on 396 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: January seventh, Karen Bass goes to the cocktail party. Did 397 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: everybody forget all that? January second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, 398 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: six full days of fire warnings. She got on the 399 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: plane to Ghana. She lands in Ghana, She goes to 400 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: the cocktail party in Ghana. Then she comes back and 401 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: tells Alex Michaelson, oh, I didn't know. She actually said 402 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: she didn't know that the the firestorm was coming. Nobody 403 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: told her now that I don't even think Noosa would 404 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: try that one. I don't eve think Bill Clinton would 405 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: try that one. She is the liar of the twenty 406 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: first century. And now she says she had nothing to 407 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: do with editing or rewriting the after action report. We'll 408 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: have more on this later in the show. 409 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six. 410 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Forty coming up after two o'clock. The gas prices are 411 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: going up. You might have noticed because Valero shut down 412 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: the Venetia refinery on January thirty. First. This is Gavin 413 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: Newsom's doing. Gavin Newsom's taxes and regulations forced Valero to 414 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: shut down its refinery. Now the price of gas is 415 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: going up. We're going to talk to Mike Ariza, former 416 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: Valero manager and oil gas X and said he's gonna 417 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: tell us about the shutdown and what this is going 418 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: to do to gas prices. Now, I only have a 419 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. I just want to sneak this in 420 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: because I can't stand weaymos. I've made that clear. And 421 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: on the West side of Los Angeles, they're everywhere, especially 422 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: again into Santa Monica. Every morning I drive to get 423 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: my bagel and my progress is impeded by some stupid 424 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: Weaimo car. They're not smart cars. They're stupid cars because 425 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: they don't they don't really respond to a drive the 426 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: way people do, right, They insist on going often below 427 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: the speed limit and there's nobody on the road, right. Yeah, 428 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: if it's thirty mile an hour speed limit, you know 429 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: normal people do you go thirty five to forty that? 430 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: You know? 431 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: They go five miles under the limit often and I 432 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: end up passing them all the time, and they they're 433 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: stupid cars. And get this, these cars are being guided 434 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: remotely by people not even in this country. Listen to 435 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: this clip. This is the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, 436 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: and Transportation and a Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey is questioning 437 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: weimo's chief safety officer, doctor Mauricio Pana about where are 438 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: the people who remotely guide these WEIMO cars. Listen to 439 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: this Yes, so. 440 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: No, does WEIMO employ humans located remotely to help its 441 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 5: vehicles navigate difficult driving scenarios. 442 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 6: Center they provide guidance, They do not remotely drive the vehicles. 443 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 6: As you stated, WEIMO asks for guidance in certain situations 444 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 6: and gets an input, But the WEIMO vehicle is always 445 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 6: in charge of the dynamic driving tasks, so that is 446 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 6: just one additional inputs. 447 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 5: But the human being, the human being helps the vehicle 448 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 5: to navigate those difficult driving scenarios. 449 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes? 450 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 5: Okay, So are all of these human operators located in 451 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 5: the United States they all hear, No, we. 452 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 6: Have some in the US and some are abroad. 453 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: So how does that break down? What percent are abroad? 454 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: Center? 455 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 6: I don't have that number for you. We can get 456 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 6: back to you. 457 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 5: Is it a majority of or abroad? 458 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: I just don't have that number. 459 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 5: Well, that's very curious that someone who's running the program 460 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 5: has no idea how that workforce breaks down. Just seems 461 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: kind of curious that you don't know that answer. But 462 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 5: are some of these operators located outside the United States? 463 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 6: Yeah? 464 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 5: Some are located abroad. Yeah, And so for me, that's 465 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 5: fairly shocking. WEIMO has critical safety employees who may need 466 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 5: to intervene in a split second if a WEIMO encounters 467 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,959 Speaker 5: an unknown dangerous situation located located in the United States, 468 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 5: but they are outside the United States in what countries? 469 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 5: Are these implay located The Philippines, Jimmy, the Philippines. So 470 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 5: they're in the Philippines, mister Paine. That is completely unacceptable. 471 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 5: Here's why having people overseas influencing American vehicles is a 472 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 5: safety issue. The information the operators received could be out 473 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 5: of date, it could introduce tremendous cybersecurity vulnerabilities. We don't 474 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 5: know if these people have US driver's licenses. And let's 475 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 5: not forget WAIMO is trying to replace the jobs of 476 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: hardworking taxi and ride share drivers. And now you're saying 477 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 5: that of the human beings, the human jobs that remain 478 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 5: in the system, you're shipping those jobs overseas. It's one 479 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: thing when a taxi is replaced by an uber or 480 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: a lift. It's another thing when the jobs just go 481 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 5: completely overseas. 482 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: There's somebody in the philip Beans guiding that WEIMO. So 483 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm stuck beside a WAYMO that's going to you know, 484 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: twenty three miles an hour. And there's a guy in 485 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: the Philippines who's what knotted off? Is he working the 486 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: night shift there? And what would he know about driving 487 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: laws in California? Maybe he's never even driven. Maybe they're 488 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, hiring teenagers for two dollars an hour. That's crazy, 489 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: that's completely nuts. And so what happened if their communication 490 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: system goes down between here and the Philippines. See, they're 491 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: stupid cars, they're not smart cars. Now, I saw I 492 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: saw today one weymouth stuck behind another weymo. There's one 493 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: weymo that was afraid to make a turn onto a 494 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: main road. There's coming out of the side street, and 495 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: then there was a second waymo behind them, and the 496 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: second WAYMO. If the first WAMO doesn't move, the second 497 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: waymo will never move. And if you're the third car 498 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: behind the two waymos, forget about it. There's no chance 499 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: anybody's gonna move. So then you've got to try to 500 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: pass two of them and then go to an intersection. Hey, 501 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: because the guys in the Philippines are what on lunch, 502 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: you don't even know if they speak English. Hate those things. 503 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: All right, we come back. We're gonna talk to Michael Reza, 504 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: former Valero manager and oil and gas expert, and he's 505 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: gonna tell us that Valero started shutting down January thirty first, 506 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: the oil refinery in Benetia. And here we go with 507 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: the price increases. The price is already going up because 508 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: another huge refinery is being shut down. That's two of 509 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: them in the last few months, and that was about 510 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: twenty percent of the refining capacity in America. De Ebra 511 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: Mark live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, 512 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 513 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 514 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 515 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeart Radio 516 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: app