1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Julie Tuglas and 4 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: you know Julie. We uh we recently did an episode 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: about cyber immortality and about the idea of preserving who 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: we are in electronic form, and we got into ideas 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: of like what is the mind? What is the soul? 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: And uh, something came up in the research so we 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: didn't really go into was was how the more modern 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: medical science analyzed how damage to the brain changes the 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: expression of who we are. Um that that that initially 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: caused a lot of concern with people over over how 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: we would continue to view the soul or or or 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: even who we are, because the idea of you know, hey, 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: if if I am my soul, I am this person. 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: And then if something can just like if I get 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: kicked in the head by a horse, that can change 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: who I am? Does that change who what my soul is? Uh? 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: You know, you get into a lot of tricky area 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: there and and uh and it's interesting that that we 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: have the little turn of phrase, change your mind. We're 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: always changing our mind about something and our mind is 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: continually changing. Uh. The person we are a year ago 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: again is different than the person we are now, and 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: the person we're going to be tomorrow is different than 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: the person talking right now. And certainly things act upon 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: us at times to change our minds for us right right, 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: Our mind is a complicated system, and uh, every day 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: something changes, something upgrades. You know how your computer is 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: constantly needing to reboot because it just got new upgrades 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: and updates have been applied. Well, updates are always being applied. 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: And occasionally your mind, like a computer can uh can 33 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: something can spill some coffee in it, or um or 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: it'll get a virus, or name any conceivable computer related catastrophe, 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: and it could also happen to your brain. So it's 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: really illuminating to look at some examples of catastrophe happening 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: to the human brain and what the effects are. How 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: um external or internal stimuli alters the form of the 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: mind and then therefore alters the uh if if you 40 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: want to say it this way, the expression of our soul, right, 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and and uh, and then going back to like the 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: neuroscience of it too. We've talked about neural plasticity, but 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: how your mind changes in that way, how it may 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: take up for one part of the other or you know, 45 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: how it might be completely changed forever. Um. So yeah, 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, it's like a new 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: car and then it gets sideswiped or something, and uh, 48 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: but we gotta keep driving this car, so let's find 49 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: out ways to make it work. Oh, I can't nobody 50 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: can set in the passenger side seat anymore because it's 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: caved in. That means more people have to go into 52 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: back seat. Thanks, like the same things of that nature, 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: except with the brain X channel isn't working anymore, so 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to send more data through Y channel. 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: That's overly simplified, but that's kind of what happens. So 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at a couple of example examples of 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: how this is played out in specific cases, um, particularly 58 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: with a guy, a very unfortunate guy I should say, 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: named Phineas Gauge. Yes, Phineas Gauge is this is this 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: is pretty awesome stuff. And I say that because right 61 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: now I'm I'm playing the new Mortal Kombat game at 62 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: home when I can, when I can squirrel away a 63 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: few moments here and there, and there are these moments 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: in the game where you'll you'll build up this bonus 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: meter and then you'll the you know everything, I'll go 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: into an X ray mode and you'll see like your 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: character like stabbing another character in the face or something, 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: and like, you know, something entering one side of the 69 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: school and going out the other. And that's exactly what 70 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: happens with Phineas Gauge back in all right. This guy's 71 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: a twenty five year old foreman for a New England railroad. 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: He's land track in Vermont, and each day he goes 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: through this particular job. It's like, you know, day in 74 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: day out. He drills a hole in a large rock, 75 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: he boares in, he pours in blasting powder, he lays 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: the fuse, and then he assistant covers the explosives with sand. 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: All right. Then he takes this uh three and a 78 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: half foot long inch quarter thick um camp what's called 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: a camping rod, the steel rod uh or iron nut, 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: and he uh he tamps the explosives down and then 81 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: he lights the fuse and he runs for cover. Alright. 82 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: So you know, like any act that you do over 83 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and over again, you're your mind stunar to wander and 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: uh and and it's easy to make mistakes. It's that 85 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: whole like the more vegetables I cut, the more possible 86 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: it does. It will cut off my fingers sort of thing. 87 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: You should always tuck your fingers in, by the way, 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: you'll never cut yourself if you touch your fingers in 89 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: the interesting. I will try that next time, avoid mutilation. 90 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: But so he gets distracted, Old Phineas Gage and he 91 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: begins camping the blasting powder before his assistant adds the sand. 92 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: So there's an suddenly there's an explosion, all right, and 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: it fires that like the explosion blast this rod straight up, 94 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: all right, and it it connects with his face, uh, 95 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: just under his left cheek, all right, and it skewers 96 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: up behind his left eye, destroying it both the eye 97 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: and the entire front portion of his left brain hemisphere. 98 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: And then the rod goes through the top of his skull, 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: eggs to the top of his skull and continues to 100 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: fly on through the air and land several yards away. 101 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: And so then there, so here's Gauge standing with this uh, 102 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: this entry hole under his cheek, this exit hole through 103 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: the top of his skull, like a bit of his Um, 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: his scalp has flapped back, you know, to emerge, and 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: not only just standing, he's completely conscious. He's talking. Yeah, 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: he's not doing That's that's important to underscore here because 107 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: this sounds like like just a death blow. You just 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: had a metal rod dynamited through your skull, through the 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: through your face and out the top of your skull, 110 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a three foot eight inch metal rod with a more 111 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: than an inch diameter by the way. Yeah. And but 112 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: almost immediately after the accident, he's conscious. He's tall, king 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: and and and and he insists of walking to the 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: cart that's going to take him down to town to 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: be treated, and and along the ride he's lucid. He's 116 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: rational during the ride, and he's he's able to speak 117 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: with his attending physician, a doctor John Martin Harlow. And 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: so he Carlo treats him and uh and uh and uh, 119 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and Gauge is actually able to return home to New 120 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Hampshire ten weeks later. Yeah. And the thing is too 121 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: just so everybody understands that he did he bled for 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: two days so um, and then he had an infection. 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: And what doctor Harlow did is that he he didn't um, 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: he didn't he wasn't able to suiture the hole in 125 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: his head, right, but he was able to cover it up, 126 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: and that's what got the infection. And it actually rendered 127 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: him semi conscious for about a month. And in fact, 128 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: his family started to prepare a coffin for him because 129 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: I didn't think that he was going to make it. Um. 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: But then the infection resolved itself after the fifth week, 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: and um, and he seemed to be completely fine. Seemed 132 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: to be right. I mean, we we know that he left, 133 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: he lost his eyesight, his left eye, and then some 134 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: of his motor abilities on his left hand side of 135 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: his face. But again here he is like he's he 136 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: can still talk, walk and cogitate. Yeah, because we're talking 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: the brain portion here is the prefrontal cortex. Uh, and 138 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: this is uh the anterior part of the frontal logo 139 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: of the brain, and generally it has to do with 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: motor and pre motor areas. But let's but let's talk 141 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: about just how Gauge was before the accident. In addition 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: to having a little more brain and one more eye, uh, 143 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: he was also supposedly a pretty you know, efficient, capable employee, 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: a decent guy to hang around. He's one of the 145 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: best foreman's They said, yeah, yeah, he was a good dude. 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: His only fault was one out of maybe thousands of 147 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: times he got a little distracted. Well well yeah, but 148 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: after this accident once he's you know, he's he's up 149 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: and about really and and recovered from this uh these 150 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: this bout of unconsciousness. Uh. They find that he is, 151 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: uh is fitful. He's uh, he's swearing like a drunken 152 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: sailor all the time. It's like he's got to rats 153 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: or something. And and he doesn't seem to care, and 154 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: and he's childlike and bulling. Yeah, he doesn't seem to 155 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: have like he's lost this ability this like ethical um, 156 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: moral um governor in his mind. That's right, he's he's 157 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: lost his social inhibitions essentially, which we know now that 158 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: the prefinal cortex is sort of tamping that kind of 159 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: down force, right, so that we're not all screaming at 160 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: each other all the time. So and we know that 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: that's where the tamping iron went through. But of course, 162 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, they did not know this. 163 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: And it was actually Dr Harlowe who was observing all 164 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: of this and saying, you know, my patient seems to 165 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: be physically fine, like there doesn't seem to be any 166 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: um neurological damage. But I think that his personality has 167 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: changed as a result of this accident. And people were like, 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: they just summarily dismissed him. And the reason for that 169 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: is because phrenology was really in vogue during those days, 170 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: and it was thought that the personality was influenced by 171 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the size and the shape and even like the bumps 172 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: on your skull. So they couldn't conceive of how your 173 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: brain could be changed because you could say internally. They 174 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: thought it was sort of set in stone in the 175 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: structure um, and that your personality was sort of set 176 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: in the structure of your brain. So Dr Harlow was 177 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: dismissed on this count, while another doctor came in and said, oh, no, 178 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: this person is completely fine. I don't know what Dr 179 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Harler was talking about, because I mean, his intelligence was 180 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: still fine. He in so many other respects, he seemed 181 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: perfectly normal. Studies have have suggested that the frontal lobe 182 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: actually has separate functional areas, one in the underbelly of 183 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: the frontal lobes and along the mid line between the 184 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: two brain spheres. That's that supposedly specialized for making social 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: decisions in an emotional context. In a second, more to 186 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: the side of the forehead, seems to specialize in abstract calculation, 187 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: other kinds of decision making that call upon lesser emotions. So, uh, 188 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: this this is basically like the case of Gauge here 189 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: in addition to being a really grizzly awful accident, yeah, 190 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: it's also yeah, more combat like incident. It's also just 191 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: a classic case in of a frontal cortex malfunction. And 192 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: uh in even these early studies about his condition were 193 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: really influential in neuro psychiatry uh and played a crucial 194 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: role in our discovery of behavioral syndromes resulting from frontal 195 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: low of dysfunction. And people continue to have dysfunctions in 196 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,119 Speaker 1: this area the brain today, generally not due to dynamite 197 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: related rod insertion in the skull. But but there are 198 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: people that have dysfunction in this area and they perform 199 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: well and intelligence tests, speak normally, make new memories and 200 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: association and use use logic just fine. But you'll also 201 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: see similar disruptions in the expression of who they are. Yeah, yeah, 202 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: I mean he basically sort of had an unwinning lobotomy, um, 203 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: which ended up really helping science understand later on how 204 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: how the brain functions. This presentation is brought to you 205 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: by Intel Sponsors of Tomorrow. And like he said, the 206 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: other parts of the brain just kind of sort of 207 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: well function fine. But then you've got him, you know, 208 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: losing his job eventually because he became I guess you 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: could say that he became so I guess, ballistic and 210 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: not not the best foreman anymore. They felt like he 211 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: was kind of unemployable, like he worked for I think 212 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: for like a circus kind of thing for a while. 213 00:11:57,880 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: He took it on the road, he went to Chile, 214 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: and then finally in February eighteen sixty he began to 215 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: experience epileptic seizures and that led to his death on 216 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: May eighteen sixty. But, um, you know, he's famous now 217 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: we're talking about him now, many many years after his death. 218 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: And you can even see his skull and the rod 219 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: at the Warren Anatotomical Museum in Harvard Medical Schools count 220 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: Way Library of Medicine. I've seen the photos. Actually pretty 221 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: cool because I mean if you look at his skull 222 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: and you look at that three ft eight inch rod 223 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: and just amazing to think that that could have happened 224 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and he would have survived it. Yeah, it really makes 225 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,359 Speaker 1: you rethink. I mean, you know, life is fragile, biological 226 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: life is fragile and brief, but it's amazing some of 227 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: the damage that we can can be inflicted upon us 228 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: and we still survive. So yeah, and another another good example, 229 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: and this came out we actually spotted this when we 230 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: were doing research for the podcast about music Changing your Brain. 231 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: And this was about a guy named Tony Sistoria And 232 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: in four he was forty two years old and he's 233 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: this orthopedic surgeon was in a phone booth when the 234 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: phone was struck by lightning. It entered his foot and 235 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: then it exited his head and he was blown backwards 236 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: by that force. And then the weird thing is, as 237 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: if that weren't weird enough, is that he had like 238 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: a big near death experience, big near death meaning that 239 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: he was sitting there watching as you know, according to him, 240 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: as someone gave him CPR, and he was feeling this 241 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: sort of like one with oneness with the universe and 242 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: was submitting himself and he was actually trying to say 243 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: to the person performing in CPR, please don't do this, 244 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: and he could see his mother in law and you know, 245 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: he and he and all of a sudden he was 246 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: brought back in his in his words, was that all. Yeah, 247 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: I think we've discussed an unpassed podcast in the future 248 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: that all these near death experiences, there are a lot 249 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: of compelling scientific explanations for what's happening. So we're not 250 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: we're not attributing any kind of divine or or supernatural 251 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: occurrence here, No, but he is. Certainly this is a 252 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: big thing for Sosori and how he explains what happened 253 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: to him and and actually how he continues to live 254 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: his life. Um, so what happened then is that he 255 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: seemed to be fine, and actually they tried to call 256 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: an ambulance, but he said, no, no, I'm fine. It's 257 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: badly enough. I've been struck by lightning, struck by lightning, 258 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: or have rods fired through their head. And they're like, WHOA, 259 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: let's not don't call an ambulance. No, he's a surgeon, 260 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: he's an arthathic surgeon, and he has a PhD in neuroscience. 261 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: But he's stupid guy. Yeah, No, he's like he knows 262 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: what happened to him. Um, but he says, you know, 263 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: I feel kind of fuzzy or whatever, but let's not 264 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: do this. And so later on he does get checked out. Um, 265 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: he gets an e G. And this shows there's no 266 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: cardiac arrest. Right, he gets an m R. Everything seems okay. 267 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: About four weeks later, during this forty eight hour period, 268 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: he just has this incredible insatiable desire to hear piano music. 269 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: And previously he's more of a zepe fan, right and yeah, 270 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: and it probably doesn't even have NPR programmed into his 271 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: his car's stereo system. I bet he does secretly, but 272 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: I bet most of the time when he's he's doing 273 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: or he turns in, he's just tuning in for like 274 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Marketplace or whatever, and then uh, you know, instantly clicks 275 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: off when the classical starts playing. Right. Yeah, So I mean, yeah, 276 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: this is someone who never had sort of a predilection 277 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: for classical music before, but all of a sudden is 278 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: just completely taken by it. Um, obsessed with it. Has 279 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: to play, it, has to hear it, gets sheet music, 280 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: begins to learn it. Uh. Serendipitously, his babysitter asked if 281 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: he can store her piano for him. So all of 282 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, the piano shows up starts playing piano, and 283 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: you have to understand he's he's resumed his job, right, 284 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: He's had a little bit of temporary memory loss, like 285 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: he can't remember some of the surgical procedures the names 286 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: for him. But then that all falls away and he's 287 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: once again whole in the sense that he can perform 288 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: his jobs to the best of his faculties. Except he 289 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: has this maddening desire to play the piano and compose 290 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: piano music. Yeah. So I mean he literally runs home 291 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: from his job and that is what he does until 292 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, four o'clock in the morning, and then he 293 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: gets up again, I don't know three hours later, goes 294 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and perform surgery. Yeah, and comes back and does it again. Yeah. 295 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt here that there's something odd 296 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: going on that that before this he never could have 297 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: cared less about classical music playing it, so on and 298 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: so forth. And then he has a dream that he's 299 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: in a text and he's performing in front of an 300 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: audience a piece that he wrote, and he begins himself 301 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: to be flooded by compositions. So he begins composing. It's insane. 302 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: And he's actually talking to Dr all of our Sacks 303 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: about this, who's the author of Music Ophelia and other 304 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: books neuroscientists as well. So uh, Sacks was completely taken 305 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: by this case because he could not figure out what 306 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: had happened. Um. And and let's just kind of step 307 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: back for a second and remember that he was struck 308 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: by lightning, so obviously something tinkered with him. If well, 309 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: that the brain is basically an electronic system, and electronic 310 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: impulses are are a vital part of how it operates. 311 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: So you you're disrupting that with a bolt of lightning. Yeah, yeah, 312 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: not just in the bolt of lightning, which could be 313 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: as high as thirty thousand am piers with one million 314 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 1: or more volts and could last you know, something like 315 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: second Um. So yeah, we're talking about getting your brain fried. 316 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: And it's amazing to think too that this happened and 317 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: that he's pretty much intact, you know, plus this obsession. Um, 318 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: when something like twenty five percent of lightning strikes to 319 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: individuals results and fatalities, and then those who do survive 320 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: sustained permanent damage. So I mean, this guy is sort 321 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: of like a unicorn among you know, lightning. Yeah, the 322 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: damage sustained is like the best possible damage. You know. 323 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: It's like how many people out there wish they could 324 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: be struck by lightning and it would wake up some 325 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: artistic creative you know. Just I mean, because even assuming 326 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: even he and he's really good at playing piano and 327 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: and and composing, but even if he wasn't, like the 328 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: idea that lightning turned on this new area of his 329 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: life that he just criminously enjoys, you know, even even 330 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: if he just really sucked at playing piano, he would 331 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: at least be enjoying it. You're right, it wouldn't matter, right, 332 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: because he's he's getting so much out of it. And 333 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: I did actually wondered about that because I went online 334 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: to listen. I thought, oh no, I wonder if he's 335 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: put all this effort into it, and it's kind of 336 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: like my dog has please, you know. But he's actually right. 337 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: He's he's a very good pianist um and does compose 338 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: his own original material. UM. So it's kind of hard 339 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: to get some sort of medical revelation out of this 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: because Csoria, as we talked about before, he doesn't he 341 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: attributes this to some sort of um, mystical religious experience, 342 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: and he doesn't want to be studied because he doesn't 343 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: want to lose that feeling, which again is kind of 344 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: maddening because because he's he's a he's a surgeon, he's 345 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: he knows how the body works, he knows how the 346 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: brain works, and and so it doesn't really seem like 347 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: there would be much room, uh too, for the for disillusionment. 348 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: It seems like he would already basically have all the 349 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: answers right there before him. Yeah. And that's what Sax 350 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: has too, is like, Okay, this is again, this is 351 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: a guy who has a PhD in neuroscience. He knows 352 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: on some level that there's there's a basis for what 353 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: has happened neural neurologically. Um. And you can tell that 354 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: Sax really wants to get in there and like study 355 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: because he's because he's sitting there thinking, you know, there's 356 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: this one clip of sex and he's sitting there talking 357 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: about he's like, there's something that happened in that forty 358 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: eight hour period, um. And then he even talks to 359 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: about you know, there's we've seen correlations that parts of 360 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: the brain in the temporal lobe UM can give rise 361 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: to a mystical euphoric feeling. We know this when and 362 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: that part of the brain is stimulated um. And in fact, 363 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: when we sometimes talk about religious experiences or even experiences 364 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: with music, we know that that part of the brain 365 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: is going nuts, right right. Uh. So it's fascinating. You know, 366 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from. I mean, this is 367 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: uh you know with sasoria, that this is something that 368 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: has happened to him and this is his great love 369 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: and obsession in his life, and he doesn't want to 370 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: look under um, you know, under the covers and see 371 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: what's going on. At the same time, it's like, and 372 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 1: why piano music? Like I think of all the the 373 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: the less appealing things he could have been struck with, 374 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Like what if he was like struck by lightning. He 375 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: wakes up and he's like, I've got to become a 376 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: prop comic. Give me give me some watermelons in a 377 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: in a chest and a hammer I'm gonna yeah yeah, 378 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: and a big mustache. It could have been much worse. Yeah, yeah, 379 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: I know it is. It's fascinating. So it also brings 380 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: to mind, you know, we're talking about brain is an 381 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: electronic system UM. Lightning is electricity disrupts it UM. It 382 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: also brings to mind transcranial magnetic stimulation or TMS UM. 383 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: And this is a much it's kind of like a 384 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: much lighter controlled and uh and far far less severe technique, 385 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: and that is actually used in treatment of some cases 386 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: of depression and other anomalies. It's uh, you'll have what 387 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: basically looks like a little rod, a lower little paddle, 388 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: and you move it next to a person's skull in 389 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: just the right area, and it produces magnetic fields to 390 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: stimulate nerve cells in the brain. And and this can, 391 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: if used correctly, can improve symptoms of depression. So you 392 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: have people that will go in, you know, it's like 393 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: people who have generally it's people who have a number 394 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: of mental issues and you don't want to actually go 395 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: to the met to the extremes of using electro shock, 396 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: which is a more severe version of uh, you know, 397 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: a little more akin to lightning than this. But they'll 398 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: go in and they'll they'll get a TMS treatment for 399 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: like half an hour, and they found that they can 400 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: actually be pretty pretty successful. Yeah, and this is UM actually, 401 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: if if I remember correctly from John Horgan's book Rational Mysticism. 402 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: He goes to the doctor Michael Persinger who has the 403 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: God machine, right, which is along the same lines as 404 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: like this helmet that you put on, UM. And the 405 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: idea is that you could create these spiritual mystical experiences 406 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: by by messing with the magnets and the temporal lobe. UM. 407 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before too with alien abductions. UM. 408 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: That season Blackmore, who has looked into this before, actually 409 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: she herself went and had her temporal lobes manipulated. Comes 410 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: sounds kind of journey UM and had a feeling that 411 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: there was someone in the room actually and had this 412 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: sort of experience UM that had some of the hallmarks 413 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: of alien abduction. So we already know we know that 414 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: there's some manipulation that can happen here. Yeah, it comes 415 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: down to to the whole idea that there's the world 416 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: of our thoughts and then there is the external world 417 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: and uh and and some would argue that there's really 418 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: only one world, and that's the one in our brain 419 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: that everything we perceive, everything we feel really takes place 420 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: UM in the back corner of the fleshy electronic globe 421 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: that is in our skull. So you start messing with that, 422 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: you give it a shock, you fire a rod through it, 423 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: and you're you're you're changing the world as you perceive it. Yeah, yeah, 424 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: absolutely right, because I mean, I mean it sounds some 425 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: of that sounds kind of straightforward, right, but I mean, 426 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you experience You can't experience someone 427 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: else's view, right, you can only experience your own. So, um, 428 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: it would make sense that, you know, even though there's 429 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: these commonalities of our existence, if you screw up the 430 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: wiring a little bit, then all lot of that will 431 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: get out out the window. Yeah, it's really in a way, 432 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of an outrageous over statement of the obvious. 433 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: But but yeah, when a when a horse kicks somebody 434 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: in the skull, it's not simply a matter of changing 435 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: that person or changing that person's mind, but it changes 436 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: the universe from that one person's perspective, and ultimately that 437 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: one person that's the individual perspective, is the only perspective. 438 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: We can never know another person's mind completely. And uh, yeah, 439 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: so it changes the world. And Oliver sucks, don't He 440 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: has a book? Uh? Is it called The Man who 441 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: Mistook His Wife? For a hat, I believe, Yeah, and 442 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: talks a little bit more about this, right, like that 443 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: that these sort of assumptions that we make about you know, 444 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: a glass is a glass or a pen is a pen, 445 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: can you know, be quite jumbled up in the brain 446 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: when things go wrong. Yeah, the line between what we 447 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: call sanity and what we call insanity is often far 448 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: far briefer and far more fragile than we give it. 449 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: Give you credit, absolutely, and uh not not that I 450 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: would say that Jill Bolte Taylor is insane or sane. Um. 451 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: Actually she is quite sane. But using that sort of 452 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: example of how tenuous or you know, our existence is, 453 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: at least in our psyche. If you look at Jill 454 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Bolte Taylor, she is the neuro anatomist who witnessed her 455 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: own stroke when a blood vessel exploded in the left 456 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: hemisphere of her brain. She documented that in a great 457 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: Ted talk. If nobody's ever seen that before, it's worth 458 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: checking out. We'll definitely put it up on the blog 459 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: post accompanying this podcast. Yeah. Yeah, and she, of course 460 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: she's a brain researcher. She was completely It's very interesting 461 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: to hear to talking about this because she was absolutely 462 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: astandard that she recognized that she was having a stroke, 463 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: and so she was sitting there as the events were unfolding, 464 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: sort of tagging every single thing that her brain was 465 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: doing as much as she could. It was December she 466 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: woke up, discovered she was having this stroke, and two 467 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: and a half weeks later she underwent major brain surgery 468 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: to remove a golf ball sized blood clot that was 469 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: placing pressure on the language centers of the left hemisphere 470 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: of her brain. Right. Yeah, and um, she does detail 471 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: this one part of when when she first started having 472 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: a stroke. I guess that the first four hours actually 473 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: before she was hospitalized, and she says she couldn't watch, 474 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: you couldn't talk, She couldn't read or write or recall 475 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: parts of her life. And she says that she essentially 476 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: became an infant in a woman's body. Um, and she 477 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: goes on to explain a little bit more to the audience. 478 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: She talks about how the right hemisphere is consciousness of 479 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: the right here, the right now, processing what we see, 480 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: what we smell in fear, it's it's very much part 481 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: of the limbic system, which is associated with emotion or 482 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: to get a little hippie dippy here. Um, it's like 483 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: the right hemisphere lives in the now, and the left 484 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: hemisphere is the brain chatter that is worrying about the 485 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: past or fearing the future. Um, Like, it's the left 486 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: brain that that you're always trying to turn off when 487 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: you're meditating or even when you're just like you're you know, 488 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: you're running or swimming or engaging in something, just trying 489 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: to turn off that chatter. Well, it's it's observing everything 490 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: that's going on. The right side of the brain, that's 491 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: the right side of his brain is processing what's going 492 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: on right now. But my left side of the brain 493 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: is tagging and categorizing little details from what's going on 494 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: right now, and it's applying it to what might happen 495 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: in the future. It's worried about the future. It's um, 496 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: it's very much concerned with um calculating intelligence, right, what 497 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: constitutes me or I? Yeah, so it's ego, it's yea 498 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: tied up and just a lot of very important aspects 499 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: of who we are, but also some of the more 500 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: problematic I would say like, yeah, well well this it's 501 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: the seat of judgment, right, so we're you know which 502 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: problem Yeah. One of the really cool things about this talk. 503 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there are many cool parts, but um, she 504 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: brings out a brain and she actually, you know, with 505 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: with the smile and attached skull, Yeah, which is right, right, 506 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: And she said, you know, I told you someone in 507 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: the front row is going to get it. So I 508 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: don't know why they were surprised, but um. But she 509 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: pulls out the brain and that an assistant brings her brain. Um, 510 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: that was obtained by legal means. And she shows how 511 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: the right and left hemisphere are truly absolutely separated. Is 512 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: this the corpus close um in the middle that connects them, right, 513 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: So she she's doing this to demonstrate how very different 514 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: you have two very different machines in your brain working 515 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: in tandem. So the reason why she's talking about that, 516 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: and why we're talking a little bit more about the 517 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: left and the right is that because she had that 518 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: that blood clot on the left hemisphere, she was losing 519 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: temporary functionality. And during those four hours and and many 520 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: years after actually, um, and so she began to witness 521 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: herself blending with the rest of the world. That was 522 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: the result is that, you know, once she shut up 523 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: that part of her brain the right brain, the here 524 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: and the now. She started to see like the boundaries 525 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: of her body dissipate and sort of meld with the 526 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: rest of the world, which is like an incredibly zen 527 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: type moment like this kind of like home, you know, 528 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: universal frequency kind of a thing. She just kind of 529 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: melded into the universe. Yeah, and she was very much 530 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: and tranced by this and was sort of sitting there 531 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: thinking like, oh wow, my body is doing this. And 532 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: then she would say her her left part of her 533 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: brain would start to come back online and be like, 534 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: you need to get help. And then her right hart 535 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: of her brain would say, yeah, like I'm witnessing this 536 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: about myself, and so seriously when you go to hospital hospital, right, 537 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: And that's what the left side of the friend just 538 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: kept coming online trying together. And that's why it took 539 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: her sover and long to get to the hospital too, 540 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: because she couldn't she lost the ability to even read numbers, 541 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: so she was trying to you know, dial the phone 542 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Um So, I think 543 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: it's fascinating that she had that experience in that it 544 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: took her eight years to recover. And she says that 545 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: the reason she knows it was eight years um and 546 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: there was the marker. There is that For eight years 547 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: after that she experienced herself as a fluid being. Yeah, 548 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna quote a real quick from her ted talk. 549 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: This was, you know, the whole fluid being a revelation. 550 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: She says, we are energy beings connected to one another 551 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: through the consciousness of our right hemispheres as one human family. 552 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: And right here, right now, we are brothers and sisters 553 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: on this planet, here to make a world a better place. 554 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: And in this moment we are perfect. We are whole, 555 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: and we are beautiful and it is. It is an 556 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: incredible talk. And I will have to say that if 557 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: you are uncomfortable with any of the sort of hippie 558 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: to be right here, right now stuff, it might make 559 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: you kind of cringe a little. But you know, I 560 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: think if someone's uncomfortable with it, this is just this 561 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: is just me. But like you should really stop and 562 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: try and disconnect yourself from fear of fear for the 563 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: future and worrying about the past, because there is that that, 564 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: it's right there in your head um. You know, each 565 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: side and if you could just give a little more 566 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: emphasis to the part of you that's living in the 567 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: moment um can it can be phenomenally um comforting. Well, 568 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: And this is what she's saying too. And the reason 569 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: why I brought that up is because there is sort 570 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: of like a spotty and part of me that when 571 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was like, oh, my goodness, 572 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: she is she is exhibiting a lot of emotion right now. 573 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: But then I was thinking about it, and she is. 574 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: She has lived in the state for so very long 575 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: where she you know, through therapy, she finally got you know, 576 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: both hemispheres of her brain functioning that she has. She 577 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: does have something to talk about here, that that you 578 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: can live, that you can learn something about living in 579 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: the right part of your brain and living in the 580 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: now and applying that to your life like that it 581 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: is a choice. But yes, you do have these two 582 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: different machines in your brain, but there is UM. But 583 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: there is this point of living that is accessible UM. 584 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: That that she said, that is her her The main 585 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: thing that she wants to tell people about her experience, 586 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: UM is that you don't have to be you know, 587 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: caught and under the glass of your left hemisphere all 588 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: the time and functioning, you know, and in serving your 589 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: ego all the time. So yeah, I thought it was 590 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: a really fascinating thing. Um, and then I did again, 591 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: like she's sort of she does sort of seem out there, 592 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: but this is a woman who has been living. She's yeah, 593 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: she's she's out there, but she's been there. You know. 594 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: It's like, this is not somebody just saying, hey, turn 595 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: off half of your brain and you know, drift free. 596 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: She's a path of her brain was turned off, you know, 597 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: for a for a period of time here and uh, 598 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: and she got to experience that for you for Yeah. 599 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: And at the very end, she says something that's really intriguing. 600 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: She says, okay that here's the right part of my brain, 601 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: which is one with the world, which sees this beautiful 602 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: of flowing existence, and here's the left part of my 603 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: brain that tells me. I'm Juel Bolte Taylor and I'm 604 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: a neuro anatomous and I'm esteemed researcher of the brain. 605 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: And which one would you pick? And I thought that's 606 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: such an interesting proposition. Yeah. Um. And she's not saying 607 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: you have to pick, that's whole that's her whole point. 608 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: But she's saying that you could if if, if you 609 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: were if you're bound to one part of your brain, 610 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: that that's uh, that's the sort of choice that you 611 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: could make for yourself. Yeah, it's enlightening stuff scientifically and 612 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: uh and and I think spiritually, if you know into 613 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Yeah, well, hey, we have we 614 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: have some some words from our listeners here under form 615 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: of emails. Well, actually one is from Facebook and I'll 616 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: read that one first. Uh, this is a response. We 617 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: received a lot of response to our five finger Evolutionary 618 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: Discount podcasts, which had to do with why we have 619 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: five fingers and how are our five fingers actually influenced 620 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: our number system? Uh. So, our listener Julia um who 621 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: I guess I can't read her last name, but she 622 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: has like a wonderful, beautiful sounding like I don't know 623 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: Icelandic last name or something, or perhaps green Landing because 624 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: she's writing about green Land. She says, by the way, 625 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: the word for the number twenty in green Landic is 626 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: in nuke nalu. And I'm probably saying that wrong, but 627 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: in nuke nalu, which translates to whole person tin fingers 628 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: tintoes awesome language. That's so cool. Yeah, because in the 629 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: podcast we were talking about how the word for seven 630 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: is something like one hand, two fingers. Yeah. Right, so 631 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: that's very cool to now listener. Emily writes the following, 632 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: I love the House of Works podcast, and you've been 633 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: a constant and informative companion as I'm toiling away rehabbing 634 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: my house. The podcast on brain function, neurology and its 635 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: ability to rewire inspired me to share my experience. A 636 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: few weeks before I started law school, I had a 637 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: seizure caused by a cavernous and nigoma. Imagine a vein 638 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: with a weak spot that balloons from the pressure and 639 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: then leaks are burst. The brain bleed was in my 640 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: visual cortex, and after brain surgery, the most challenging part 641 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: of my recovery was that I couldn't see properly. It 642 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: was double vision like a bad headache or vertigo causes. 643 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: I also was missing part of my visual field, like 644 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: a spot where objects would become invisible. Consequently, I had 645 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: trouble judging depth and typing or reading required uh nose 646 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,479 Speaker 1: to the screen, one eyed closed typing. About four days 647 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: after the surgery, I was out on a wall with 648 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: my sister and all the anomalies vanished. I went. I 649 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: went to having double vision and no depth reception to 650 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: seeing normally. It was instantaneous. The brain was clearly rebuilding 651 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: its network and the final wire got connected. The missing 652 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 1: spot in my eyesight also diminished, but hasn't totally left. 653 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: If I moved my hand in front of my eyes, 654 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: it has one place where it will disappear. However, the 655 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: brain filled in the gaps, and unless I look for 656 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: the little black hole, I would forget it was there. 657 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: My recovery was fine, though a few weeks later I 658 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with epilepsy. Epilepsy is a really interesting condition 659 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: and might make a good topic. I've always wondered how 660 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: many people have hidden or exploited it. I adjust to 661 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: my adjusted to my new identity as an as an 662 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: epileptic by blogging for six months and her blog address 663 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: is a Sacred disease dot blog spot dot com. Uh. 664 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: It's all one word, sacred disease. It is uh. It 665 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: has been almost eight years since that first seizure and 666 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: I continue to love hearing more about the brain it's 667 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: eccentricity and superpowers. Thanks for the great podcast, Emily, So 668 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: that was really illuminating, especially given some of the stuff 669 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: we were just talking about. Yeah, I was just thinking 670 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: about that too. Um, very cool stuff. Yeah. I love 671 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: hearing from listeners about their personal experiences with with various 672 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: neurological conditions or um, you know, or or anything that 673 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: could conceivably be viewed as a supernatural or weird. I mean, 674 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, how did people interpret this kind of thing 675 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: in the past before we understood how how the brain 676 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: affects how things work, you know, the idea that it 677 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 1: would be this invisible part in your in your sight. Yeah, yeah, 678 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: and then I'm sure that people didn't even tell someone 679 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: before just for fear of someone thinking that they might 680 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: be mad. Right, yeah, thanks turned invisible if I look 681 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: at them right, right. It's not something you would probably 682 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: say one years ago, yeah, but even fifty years ago. 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