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Speaker 2: you and what you're doing is fucking great. Like, what

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you could get three different things in one night. Yeah, Hannah.

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Speaker 4: It is crazy. Yeah, that is psychotic.

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Speaker 2: What's the thing that people don't get is like when

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Speaker 4: That is fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an update that got cut during air,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, no, no, it's okay.

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Speaker 2: We turned to you and you broke down. Both felt

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Speaker 1: Bags and you look across the table and guess who

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Speaker 2: And I think we've all had version of this where

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Speaker 2: like I'm used to I'm used to meeting the poutine

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Speaker 2: we performed Suck. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 4: It is, in every possible conceivable way, something that has happened.

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Speaker 4: I never once even thought about this being my life

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Speaker 2: I was like, I know what she does is stand up,

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Speaker 4: I'm going, what did you get your taking a risk?

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Speaker 4: Paul Jenny Legia? How did you know?

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Speaker 4: I could have done like, but how did they know?

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Speaker 4: as you know, like solar performance is very isolating, and

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Speaker 4: very much. I was just you know, stand up comedian

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Speaker 4: Like you know, I would be the fuck Holiday and

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Speaker 1: That's a good they actually they have good records. That's

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Speaker 1: really good. And the coffees well too hot.

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Speaker 4: But give it some time, give some cool.

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Speaker 3: I think it's very Special that Sandy Honik directed the

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Speaker 4: Like Sandy and I were like, I mean we've just

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Speaker 3: Like when it's two people. When when too consciousness is

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Speaker 4: And she's a comedian as well, obviously. Yeah, so she

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Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm not gonna let you look stupid. If

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm literally pointing at him because that's who

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Speaker 2: Like you did you feel like when you did the special,

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Speaker 2: I did it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I did it the best I fucking could.

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Speaker 4: So I and this definitely also speaks to the like

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Speaker 4: And so like the first performance, like I wanted to

443
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 4: kill I literally, I know what it's going to be

444
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 4: after I say, good evening the first thing, and it's

445
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 4: like they were warm and they were there, but like

446
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 4: there was the crowd, no shade, thank you for the support.

447
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 4: They lack of sexuality, you know what I mean. I

448
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 4: want people to have be a little licked up. I

449
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 4: want a couple of drinks in like you know what

450
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: I mean. I want them loose. And so the first

451
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 4: show was giving you know, there was a platonic energy

452
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 4: in the crowd.

453
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful energy to when you're committing it to film.

454
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,239
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, that's right. So it did end

455
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 4: up being like, you know, first show, I was like,

456
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 4: like I genuinely was in the back going like maybe

457
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 4: maybe stand up isn't meant to be film, Maybe maybe

458
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 4: it's all for not. Maybe maybe we we shouldn't have

459
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: it was a fool's era, and we I should stay live,

460
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 4: I should stay on the road. And then the second show,

461
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: I was like I am a god.

462
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you're able to exist in both

463
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: those things. I wonder like when you were younger, when

464
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 2: you were like first starting out, were you someone that

465
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 2: was like, I can do this because I know I

466
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: can do it, or were you someone that was like,

467
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm being trepidacious and I'm going to prove it to myself.

468
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: I mean, it definitely was like show to show, Mike

469
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 4: to Mike, performance to performance, like oscillating, but I definitely

470
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 4: think that I quickly learned that, like, yeah, we go

471
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 4: up at the open mic with things that we think

472
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 4: are like I think this is as good as and

473
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 4: all my other good ship, and they just are telling

474
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: you no. They are telling you now, no problem, and

475
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: it's like agree to disagree. But also like audience is

476
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 4: king like they actually ultimately never wrong, They're never wrong,

477
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 4: and they decide so and they decide I'm glad, which

478
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 4: is so yeah, I don't know.

479
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about it. I love talking

480
00:21:59,359 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: about that.

481
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 4: Okay, So I had like this is an analogy. I

482
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: guess it's like do doctors performing surgery for a crowd,

483
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: like have them weigh in, and it's like, wait, should

484
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm I'm the expert. Actually, you know what I mean?

485
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 4: Like sometimes I do feel that in my jadedness where

486
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, wait, but it's you, I'm It's I'm

487
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: the one, and it's I know that isn't the case.

488
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 4: And ultimately, like they do win every time and thank

489
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 4: you to the audience, but sometimes it's frustrating.

490
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: This is a thing that I like about working and

491
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: as is that the people who run it have always

492
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 3: abided by this notion of the audience is always right. Yeah,

493
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 3: they know better than me do Like it doesn't matter

494
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: what I let's say, Lorden Michaels thinks, like is the

495
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 3: best piece of comedy. They are the arbiters in every situation,

496
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 3: no exceptions, and like that is I think for me,

497
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 3: what's getting a lot of like getting in the way

498
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 3: of like this generational divide.

499
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: In terms of like what comedy is.

500
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: It's like it's these comedians who are like, oh, like

501
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: the audiences have changed, and they're not they're wrong now. No,

502
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: it's it's just that they've they've always been right. They

503
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 3: were right back in the day. They're right now.

504
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 4: It's you who's changed.

505
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: You who's changed. It's you who has not changed, right right,

506
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: right right.

507
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 3: You are the fixed point. And maybe that's the problem.

508
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: And like I think this is a good thing for

509
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: everyone to have personally, Yeah, totally, Like is just this

510
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: this way of like.

511
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: Filling in the container. Yeah, and you hold like.

512
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 4: Look as a performer and as someone who gets on stage,

513
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 4: like you have this feeling of like, ah, I had

514
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: faith in this thing. I believed in this thing, in

515
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 4: this joke, whatever it may be. But yeah, like at

516
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: the end of the day, really it's just not up

517
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 4: to you. And that's like fine, that's what it is. Yes,

518
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: And ultimately, like you do get that feedback, especially when

519
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: you tour, like you do get that feedback across the board. Yeah,

520
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 4: it's really rare that it's like, oh, it's didn't work

521
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: everywhere and then it worked here, Like it's very ye.

522
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 4: And then if it does it's like you can't trust that.

523
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 4: You have to trust the failure actually, and you're also not.

524
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: Going to win in litigation against the audience, you know

525
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like afterwards, it's it is over.

526
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: It should live and die there, and there should be

527
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: something to be learned from that. But it feels like

528
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: a not only is this conversation that a lot of

529
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: people are having about how like older comics and from

530
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: another generation and you know the icons that are like

531
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 2: constantly reilling against this, it kind of just feels like

532
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: this is not an interesting topic and if you haven't

533
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: discovered that, you can't say anything funny about it.

534
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: Now move on.

535
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: I was like really happy about what Julia Louis Dreyfus

536
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: was that she said it was in response to this

537
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 2: idea of like kind of everyone of that male generation

538
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: being like, you know, the audiences are fucked up. You know,

539
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: Seinfeld says what he says, et cetera. And we've all

540
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: heard odd nauseum from the usual suspects about how woke

541
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: culture is killing comedy. But she was like, I feel

542
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: like it's a huge red flat when we're so fixated

543
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: on this, And she was like, what's really killing comedy,

544
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: and what's really killing content is the consolidation of wealth

545
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: and power, which is in and of itself kind of

546
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: a way to drag them and not for nothing, not blown,

547
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: not like revealing anything here, but she knows wealth, I mean,

548
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: like Julia Lewis dragon total like she you know what

549
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Like it's like she understands like.

550
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: How it all works and how it all moves.

551
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: And to be in power in comedy, I mean, she's

552
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: been one of the brand names of comedy since the nineties.

553
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: So to look around and see everyone fixating on this

554
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: thing and it's not getting funny or a more interesting

555
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: from that vantage point, it's like this is also a

556
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: worthwhile opinion here, which is just like maybe we need

557
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: to look a little bit about how we are uncomfortable

558
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 2: with the fact that we can't necessarily swing our dicks as.

559
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: Big and as loud anymore. Maybe that's our issue.

560
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 4: And it's like the greatest numbers, like what Dave Chappelle's

561
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 4: Netflix deal was like sixty million dollars and they offer

562
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: like our peers, like two hundred k all told all

563
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: production costs to pay every single person on the crew,

564
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: every single fee, every single everything yeah, you're in the

565
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 4: you're in the in the red. By the end of it,

566
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: it's like, what's that you guys don't have like you

567
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: know what I mean, It's it's just crazy.

568
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Like we're all doing a comedy show on Saturday.

569
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: Not that it like compares to like anything that like

570
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 3: is out there in the sort of content mass, but

571
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: like we are putting up a show where we're not

572
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 3: necessarily like walking out with a big like not at all.

573
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not what it's for, Like all that is

574
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: going into the show itself.

575
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: And it's like totally fine for like an older generation

576
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: of comedians to be like, well, culture is killing comedy.

577
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: But it's like Seinfeld is taking a step further by

578
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: saying that's why comedies don't get made anymore, right, He's

579
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: like he's like that's why like comedy movies don't open

580
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: or don't get like theatrical releases. Like he's like blaming

581
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: it on that, which I think is like so interesting,

582
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: because there are means to make comedies every day we

583
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: are doing on our little scale, like and it's fun

584
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: and it's we think it's different than like what's out there.

585
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, like not not that I'm like, no

586
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: one knows why anything doesn't work either.

587
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: It's like again, it's just like the audience didn't want

588
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: to see it, and they're again they're not wrong, and

589
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: they're not wrong.

590
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 4: Well, I think often sometimes people in power are inherently

591
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: risk averse, and so like our job is inherently we

592
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 4: are prone to risk, and so that is where the

593
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: incongruency lies. And it's like they're just not they they

594
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: need something that is so so obvious in their minds

595
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: to work in their minds to take a chance on it,

596
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: which is just I guess like a product of you know,

597
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 4: the new streaming era and all of the growth that

598
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 4: they need to create and this like ever rising level

599
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 4: of monetary gain that needs to be in place. It's

600
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: like just you know, to Julia's point, that is what's happening.

601
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: It's just like so shitty, Like what there's so many

602
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: like young comics that are like rising up that are

603
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: like and yet this dominating common Harry is like, well,

604
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: comedy is dead, Like comedy is not happening. This is

605
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: what's killed comedy. It's like, look around, like there's there's

606
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: great comedians and it does feel obviously very sexist and

607
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 2: you know, homophobic and racist, and it's undertones and all

608
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: those things.

609
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: But it's just like, where are the jokes about this?

610
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Make it funny, Make it funny, you know, dance for

611
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: us monkey like you did in the beginning, Jerry Seinfeld.

612
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: Literally in my first job, Jerry Seinfeld, really given, My

613
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: first job was in a sketch on comedians and cars

614
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: getting caught and Michael Richards. It was the Jimmy Fallon episode.

615
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 2: And this was back in the day when it was

616
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: on Crackle Crackle, and like I came out and like

617
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: played like a some version of a gay assistant who

618
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: was like, you know, taking their pressed juice order and everything.

619
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: But it was me, Michael Richards and Jerry Snfeld and

620
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: it was the first time I had seen Michael Richards

621
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: act or do anything since since, which I have to

622
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: imagine does inform the way that a lot of people

623
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: like seeing people get canceled in like an o G way,

624
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: like notwithstanding whether they absolutely deserved it or not. But

625
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: she's like, huh, this could happen. I'm I have my

626
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: guard up now, and now it's the opportunity for this

627
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: brown swell of like.

628
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: How do we like theirs their right right right.

629
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 4: I will say I love comedians and cars getting coffee,

630
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: but it is like, so oh my god, all of

631
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: the like like Jim Carrey and Gary Shandling and like, no,

632
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: it's great, all of the fucking incredible, just like a

633
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: window into like these people in a way that we've

634
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: never seen them before.

635
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: You like cars, I do like cars.

636
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 4: I like to drive.

637
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: You like to drive. I love driving. You love the

638
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: open road?

639
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 4: I love driving?

640
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Freedom, great show for your season two. Must have

641
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: felt incredible.

642
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally in the bus in the sticking my

643
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: head out like a dog. Oh yeah, tongue clapping around

644
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: the wind. Yeah that's me.

645
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: That's yeah. I do picture it. Go ahead of the

646
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: special or handa driving, handah driving. What do you listen

647
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: to in the damn car?

648
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: Oh?

649
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: A lot of classics, A lot of classic classic rock America. Bread,

650
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: hand read, you know what I mean, Steely Dan, you

651
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Fucking the Eagles man, Okay.

652
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: I wonder Hanson is probably clutching their heart to be

653
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: able to be mentioned. Bread. People really like right off? Bread?

654
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: What's with that?

655
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: What's with that?

656
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: We're also tired. You got to come out of here.

657
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: And workshop these jokes to find out doesn't lie. That

658
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: wasn't good. They didn't like that bread joke. It got

659
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: a respond.

660
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: Maybe there's an absolute value to keep coming back a response.

661
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: Then it means it's something.

662
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: All right. So we're talking about getting on the open.

663
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: And when I think about you driving and listening to music,

664
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: I think about you consuming culture, which leads me to

665
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: sort of like as the question, the big question from

666
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: the podcast, which is Hannah, I minder, what was the

667
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: culture that made you say culture was for you?

668
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Here we go, bring it on.

669
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: You?

670
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: So I saw bring it on when I was far

671
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 4: too young to see it. It would have been considered

672
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: quote unquote inappropriate.

673
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Got it number.

674
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: I would say, I was seven, and you know, they're

675
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 4: talking BJ, they're talking F, they're talking you know several

676
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: other letters, you know what I mean. Yeah, so so

677
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 4: in the air well that actually, you know, I would

678
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: say that my liberal Los Angeles Jewish family was actually

679
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: being like, okay, slay to that. But words et cetera, yea,

680
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 4: like a douchew that's not for my child, crocked, crocked. Sorry,

681
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 4: that's that's one of my little me and me and Sandy.

682
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: We actually Crocked c r O c K Crock Time

683
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: c r O c K T well titled that rock

684
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: Crocked Sandy feels. Ok Oh, if I may just a sidebary,

685
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: I have a couple more words that we've kind of

686
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: please have been in the rotation, So if and you

687
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: guys can please feel free to use this, no need

688
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 4: to credit me whatsoever. Like I just kind of want

689
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 4: this to permeate the culture, if you will. So this

690
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: word is sponge. Sponge would be said when you take

691
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: something in so completely that it becomes you fun.

692
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: So it's kind of that's sponge spun.

693
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean if somebody says something

694
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 4: that feels like it's almost church, you know, gospel sponge,

695
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: but I'm absorbing that sponge, I like, you know what

696
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I like. And then another one would be

697
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: something is so left And that's just when something's not.

698
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Right right, you know what I mean, Like it had

699
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: done been gone left.

700
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: Exactly, I would say, exactly, the discourse is less, it's

701
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 4: left left, the party.

702
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: Left, it was left.

703
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: We we had fun and then like around like one

704
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 4: kind of left, know, like.

705
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: After Hannah shot down the zombies the arcade.

706
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: It just went left.

707
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: It just left. There was no right after that.

708
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, say that you really tore it up. Yeah, that

709
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: was kind of my first time on the on the

710
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: g on the gun. Well you know it was, but

711
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 4: you know I kind of got into my like mister

712
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: and missus Smith to see a little bit picturing you. Yeah,

713
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 4: I was like I was Angelina in that moment. It

714
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: was kind of that.

715
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: I do want a Hannah Einbinder movie in which not

716
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: to glorify this, but in which she holds a gun.

717
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm ready to do that. I'll be honest with you.

718
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm ready to do action because you should as as aforementioned.

719
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: And I will circle back. I was a competitive cheer

720
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 4: leader for years and so I am agile.

721
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: So let's go back to Bring it On.

722
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: Okay.

723
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: So, so.

724
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: I saw Bring it On at like seven or eight,

725
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: and I said, this is my life now.

726
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: So I uh my first year from I'm sexy, I'm cute,

727
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm popular, but like from.

728
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 4: Yes first vivid and uh uh uh wait, I'm sexy,

729
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: I'm cute, I'm popular, the boys all up to stare.

730
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm wanted, I'm hot, I'm everything you're not.

731
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I smile, I'm cool. I dominated this school. I just guys,

732
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: I want to touch my chest.

733
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 4: I rocking, I smile and anything.

734
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Vile, I sile, I jump. You can look, but don't

735
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: you humph. I'm major.

736
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: I roar, I swear a whore.

737
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: We cheer and we lead. We act like ground.

738
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: CEA hate us because we're beautiful, lowlea like you either

739
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: weren't your leaders.

740
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: We aren't your leaders. All come eating Red, I'm Courtney round.

741
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: I made my color.

742
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, just godzzy, I'm still big Red.

743
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: I sizzle, I scorched, and now I pass the torch.

744
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: The ballance are in and one girl has to win Turkey.

745
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 1: She's lying and now she's in kicking the chorus you're taking.

746
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna made rs your captains.

747
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: We are the mighty monitors were so terrific. It must

748
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: be guitars. Wow, that lived right.

749
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: Anyway? So I saw that, and obviously I was radicalized.

750
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you know what I mean? Did you

751
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: just see us all chip like?

752
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: It is an iconic opening to a movie, iconic that

753
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: they should teach in school.

754
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's one million and and I would have

755
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: liked to see that in film school. But you know,

756
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: they got to show. I gotta watch the Bicycle Thief, whatever.

757
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: The many times brutiful Laundrette.

758
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 4: No exactly, thank you, thank you anyway, but that but.

759
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: That film you're seeing it in the theaters. You can

760
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: remember saying it saw that.

761
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 4: I got it. I saw it at home. I believe

762
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 4: it was PHS and or possibly a DVD. And I

763
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: saw that and I said I have to do this.

764
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 4: And so that summer I was enrolled in a cheer camp.

765
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: Not being comedy, you're acting, actually cheerleading. Actually how you know?

766
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: It really works?

767
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: It really worked. It is culture that made me say

768
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 4: life was for me. Yeah, okay, I said, I'm going

769
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 4: to keep living.

770
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: Actually, now I was like, is any is it all

771
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 2: the cheerleading or is any part of it the tickle

772
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: which is what I call it when you start to

773
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: feel a little bit LGBTQ.

774
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: Plus well, of course, missy guy, I transferred from Los

775
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 4: Angeles your school. It's a dynastics team.

776
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: This is the last visitor, I mean.

777
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: And by the way, it's like and then like, y'all

778
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: remember stick it.

779
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: I didn't. I never saw a sticket, but I suggest.

780
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: I suggest seeing it. It's really really awesome and also

781
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 4: very LGBT, of course specifically l if you will and

782
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: I will, you know what I mean. So yeah, it

783
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: definitely was, of course, I mean and then like, but

784
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 4: I'm a cheerleader obviously, like okay, well and I saw

785
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: that when I was already out, but you know, so,

786
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: so yeah, I enrolled in cheer camp and then I

787
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: joined a competitive team that was a co ed team

788
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: in Marina del Rey.

789
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: And what age is this? Now?

790
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: This is now I'm kind of blurry on my past generally,

791
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: but this is probably nine because I've been like from

792
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 4: like seven, I was like in cheer camp, and then

793
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 4: like nine to maybe eleven, I was on this one

794
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: team in Marina del Ray and then I switched to

795
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 4: an all girls gym in Pasadena and we competed all

796
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 4: over the country and it was like wow, yeah competitive, Yes.

797
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: Like y'all were in Yes, yes, like you were the Ranchocarnates.

798
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: Even more so, I would say, like even more yeah,

799
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: which you know, it is hard to do, especially in

800
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 4: LA in the LA area, it's more of like the

801
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: middle of the country South type thing.

802
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: You and CD Green need to really connect on this

803
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 3: because she has done a lot of research on like

804
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: youth cheers.

805
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: Yes, cheerleading, Yes, yes, that is. It's a wild world,

806
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: wild world. And I will say that I credit a

807
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: lot of my determination for perfection and hard work to cheerleading.

808
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: Because you know, nothing else was acceptable.

809
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: No, it's hurt, genuinely. It's like, do you want to fly?

810
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: Then you better? You better sore for perfection, darling. You

811
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because I'll knock you back down

812
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 4: to backspot in a second. You want to stay on

813
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 4: the ground, then hit the goddamn heill strike.

814
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: I am very afraid.

815
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: I'm giving you one tent right now. I'm giving you

816
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 4: one ten.

817
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: I believe that you're only give me one ten.

818
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: Looks and you are looking at me in my eyes,

819
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 2: and I am not stepping You know what I mean

820
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: when you say so, did you ever like sort of

821
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: because you are you do have this power.

822
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Did you rise to the levels of leadership?

823
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 4: I was captain of the varsity cheer My god, this

824
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: is high school. So then, of course I went to

825
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 4: my high school career, which was actually quite tragic, because

826
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 4: you know, I came from this intense world and this

827
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: was such a huge part of my identity. And then

828
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: in high school, you know these girls, you know there

829
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 4: were a couple of girls. I want to shout out

830
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: Kayla countrymen and how to use the LAC and how

831
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: to use the LAC. They came from competitive cheerleading. Kayla

832
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: came from competitive cheer in Central California. Heidi from Georgia.

833
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: And so these girls they were coming into JV try

834
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 4: out standing tucks, you know what I mean, Like they

835
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: were they were ready to got you. You know what

836
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they were ready to go. And the rest

837
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 4: of the girls, you know, I shouldn't speak, I shouldn't

838
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: speak out of turn. I'm sure they had. You know, Look,

839
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: it just we were on different pages. We were just

840
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 4: on different pages.

841
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: No, And that's that's nobody's fault.

842
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: It's nobody's fault.

843
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: It's just how it's what the configuration wasn't exactly you.

844
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,919
Speaker 3: Kala and Heidi were coming from yea a particular let's say,

845
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: stocks of cheer That's right.

846
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: We were striving for perfection. And the other girls were,

847
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: you know, they were they were on the team.

848
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: Sure. So then when you get to the end of

849
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: high school, is there a moment of torrents where you're like,

850
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: what is my life now?

851
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 4: So I was used to like very intense conditioning, springboard,

852
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: like professional cheerleading equipment, all of these things, and I

853
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: was kind of you know, I went from tumbling on

854
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 4: like a gymnastics floor to grass and track. So at

855
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: football games, we'd be on the track and I'd be

856
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: doing like, you know, seven back handsprings in a row

857
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 4: or something, and it would be like this thing of

858
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 4: like I'm kind of it's hard on the body. Yeah,

859
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 4: And over time I gradually lost skill, and I will

860
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: never forget the last time I threw around up by

861
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 4: canspring tuck and then I got swooped.

862
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: I got scared, and it was like it was like

863
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: this is the last oh you felt leave.

864
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: I did a round off by can spring and I

865
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: sprung up to do the tuck and I couldn't, Like

866
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: I genuinely, I genuinely could not do the back tuck.

867
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: And it was just like I walked away like it

868
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: was just gone.

869
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: I was.

870
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: I was, yeah, I left me, and she was you do.

871
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: You think, in confronting that moment that that was an

872
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: emotional slash mental block or do you believe that it

873
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: was physical and your body was just like we have

874
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 2: exceeded the time where this is like a safe thing

875
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: for us to do.

876
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 4: It was emotional and mental. Wow. I had poured so

877
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 4: much time and effort into the team into trying to

878
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 4: get gym space for the girls to tried up their skill,

879
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: to try to work on. Okay, how about everybody goes

880
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 4: for a back can spring? We try to make that

881
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: the goal and the whole team can do a standing

882
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: by can't spring? And you know, the amount of effort

883
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 4: and time and concern I poured into the high school

884
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 4: team was you know, it was a lot. You could

885
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: call it unhealthy. I was very very serious about it,

886
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: like very serious, but I know what I mean.

887
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: Y'all were high school students. You know what I mean.

888
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 3: It's like this is you don't know what how big

889
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 3: the vessel is for you to pour all your yourself into.

890
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: And you sound like you were a great, great captain,

891
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: Thank you fantastic, But well probably.

892
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: Because it was because if you weren't, then what you

893
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I just remember, like I was

894
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: captain on my track team, and I also got to

895
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: like a place where I remember it just it became

896
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: my identity in a way where it was like okay.

897
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: So then at the end of it, when you do

898
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: ultimately decide to walk away the breakdown you have, like

899
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: do you have like a breakdown? Because I remember calling

900
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: my father and telling him I had done a week

901
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: of the track team at n y U, and then

902
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: I was like it was became so clear that I

903
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: was meant to pursue other things and actually try to

904
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: become myself and stop and track was amazing, but like

905
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: it was a crutch for me to get through high

906
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: school being good at that and having purpose and having authority.

907
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: No one could like check you or fuck with you

908
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: because you were an effective part of something that was

909
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: like accepted in the school as being a worthwhile social

910
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: and physical thing. He's on the diversity team, et cetera.

911
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: And when I had to call my father and tell

912
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: him that I was leaving the team, I didn't even

913
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: know I was going to get that upset because it's

914
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: not just you quitting that, it's you quitting this thing

915
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: that's been definitive. Yes, that thing that's defined you, that's

916
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: been most associated with you and being productive and successful.

917
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 4: Was your dad, like sports dad at the games, like

918
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 4: super cheerleader vibes.

919
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: My dad was pretty much if he didn't start as

920
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 2: the coach of everything I did, finish the coach of

921
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: everything like that. Like he I remember, he was very

922
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: unhappy with like the coaching I was getting in track

923
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: and field season wise. Cross country wasn't good enough, swinder

924
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: trap wasn't good enough, springtrack wasn't good enough. So he

925
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: ended up learning how to coach it and then was

926
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: the pretty much the best track coach I had ever had.

927
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, okay, so it was it was a loss

928
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: for both of you.

929
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean I don't think so, because he was like,

930
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 2: I don't care. I just want you to be happy

931
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: and do something. He was like, go right for the

932
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: school paper or whatever, whatever's going to like motivate you.

933
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: But I didn't get that because, like you're saying, it's

934
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: like it has to be this thing that's like because

935
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what I even am. Yes, So that's

936
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: why it's frustrating, is because like I don't know who

937
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 2: I am, and us all being I think closeted queer

938
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: at the time, probably that is extra scary because you're like, no,

939
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: it means something like I have to have an identity.

940
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: If I don't have an identity, especially like when you're

941
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: going to college and we went to New York for

942
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: college where everyone knows who they are and everyone knows

943
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: where they're going, and everyone's busy and everyone's plugged in,

944
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 2: and suddenly you're like, whoa, I'm not that and I'm.

945
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Used to being that.

946
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: Yes, it is a huge identity crisis. And it's like

947
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 4: you see did y'all watch the Kelsey that documentary?

948
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: Kel see the Jason Kelsey Dogs Jason.

949
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: It was so cool, it was like this, It felt

950
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 4: like it will resonate because it like explored this thing

951
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 4: where like an athlete has to walk away from their

952
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,959
Speaker 4: sport and like because your body just whatever, whatever the reason.

953
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 4: In my case as well, I was also graduating in

954
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: the college that I went to didn't have like their

955
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 4: tier team was dancers with mom moms. It wasn't actually

956
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: and like for whatever reason, like walking away. It is

957
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 4: a huge identity crisis and it's so devastating and frankly

958
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: not to get dark, but you look at some of

959
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 4: those episodes of Intervention, a lot of them were like

960
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: I was an athlete and then my knee got whatever

961
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: and then blah blah blah, Like it is really like

962
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: truly having your identity be like roped into athleticism or

963
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: any career that has like an expiration date on, like

964
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 4: it's connected to your body in any way, Like it's

965
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 4: really fucked up. It's really dark.

966
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: At the Culture War because she that athletic Anderstry had

967
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: to go somewhere.

968
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 4: It's legit. It is so dark and real.

969
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: That movie was so much better than.

970
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: I think My Lucky Stars. I found comedy because that.

971
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: Yes, when did this come in? This came in in college.

972
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: I just was kind of loitering and I started talking

973
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 4: to a kid who you know, was working on like

974
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: I went to film school, I went to Chatty University,

975
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: I went to Dodge College, and I just was talking

976
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 4: to this kid. I was appeaying on a film set

977
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: and he was like, you're funny. You should try out

978
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: for the improv team and stuff. I did try out

979
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: for the improv team, and I did do that, and

980
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 4: I was really not good at it. But I I

981
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: then lost cultures dos Fath. Nicole Byer came to my college,

982
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: came to Chapman, and she asked if anyone from the

983
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 4: improv team wanted to open for her, and I volunteered,

984
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: and that was the first time I did stand.

985
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: Up that allowed you to volunteer. Well.

986
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 4: I loved to stand up so much, and I also

987
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: felt so bad about how bad an improv I was

988
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: because I really was so in my head in a

989
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: way that you cannot be to do that.

990
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 2: Well sure, and and you being someone who's a perfectionist,

991
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: she's like, You're like, I will be good at it.

992
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it.

993
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I will not fail.

994
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. And just being like I love stand up

995
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 4: so much. I listened to albums all the time, like

996
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: maybe I could do that, Maybe I could try that

997
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: the way I tried Improvin. So I wrote like eight

998
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 4: minutes and just open for her, and it was like

999
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: literally I never went back. Ah yeah, changed everything she made.

1000
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 4: She made it possible for me.

1001
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: You you've talked about this before.

1002
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 4: I have told her since I ran into her. I

1003
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: was like thank you, and she's really she was really

1004
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: sweet about it.

1005
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: You know what's so funny, Like not funny, it's just

1006
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: like I love that that can then be something that

1007
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: you were able to tell her.

1008
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: I remember, like years.

1009
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: Ago, you know, you remember how Michelle Buteau performed our

1010
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Welcome Week and I just remember feeling so wrecked because

1011
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: like I had quit that.

1012
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: Team and like comedy was something I knew I could

1013
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: go to.

1014
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: Because everyone's gonna we were all gonna laugh, and at

1015
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: least that would be a release and it being her

1016
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: like someone who I thought was genuinely so funny and

1017
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: like like we will all have that cathartic moment. And

1018
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: then to know her later and see her get the

1019
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: success that she's had obviously Nicole is also huge, yea.

1020
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: But to have the outlet for that be like you

1021
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: really fucking made a difference, Like that's like this major.

1022
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so major, and it's like the most I mean,

1023
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: especially to like watch Nicole is also sets an example

1024
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 4: for you, like to continue to kind of pay it

1025
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 4: forward and be like how can I reach back and

1026
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 4: like figure out how to like facilitate that for other

1027
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: people the most incredible gift and honor to be able

1028
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: to do it as well. Truly, my god, I love

1029
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 4: this ship. I love this as good as hell.

1030
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: Recently, I'm sponge the entire time with you?

1031
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: Is that?

1032
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Am I using that right? Fun I'm spunge. You don't

1033
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: say I am sponge. You can just say sponge sponge, but.

1034
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 4: You can say like genuinely like it's like we made

1035
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 4: it up. You know, I am Sponge.

1036
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: The grammar is very Sandy and Hannah, and I know

1037
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: I want to honor that it is rocked.

1038
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: We're very crop said that.

1039
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: But speaking of Sponge, like the bringing on of it

1040
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: all like that, especially formatively at a time when you're

1041
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: seeing kids like again kids they're played by adults, but

1042
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 2: like you see that world of high school. I remember

1043
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: being so blown away a that high schools could have

1044
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: hallways that were outside California must be the promise.

1045
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,919
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on here?

1046
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: And all those La high schools were all outside hallways

1047
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: like the Cuckoo one where She's all that, which, by

1048
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: the way, watch that again.

1049
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: Easy movies, hold up, Easy School.

1050
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 2: Like all them like, but that was wild to watch

1051
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: them and have bit the space and how I hot

1052
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: they all were, et cetera. I will also point out

1053
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: it opened a door to that type of comedy for me,

1054
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: yeah and maybe for you too, where it was like, well,

1055
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: Kirsten Duns was huge, yeah, and then playing on stars

1056
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: all the time was bringing on. And then also there

1057
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: was drop dead gorgeous and I think that was also

1058
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: the that opened the door to like character acting for me.

1059
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, she's in this, and she's in

1060
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: this and it's different, and I know her from Jumanji.

1061
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: Let me find out everything I need to know, Like,

1062
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: do you get like whenever you see an actor from

1063
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: that movie, whether they're doing a lot or doing a little,

1064
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: you must like completely my.

1065
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: God, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

1066
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: I was watching like I was in a hotel room.

1067
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 4: I had a random channel on, you guys. I literally

1068
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 4: saw Missy acting in a courtroom drama like a couple weeks.

1069
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 1: Ago, Eliza out there. Yeah, yeah, like I and I had.

1070
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 4: Not seen her since, and I was like, hell, mother

1071
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 4: fucking yeah, she's killing it. She's serious, she's acting, she's gorgeous,

1072
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: She's still incredibly gorgeous, and she I just was like

1073
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 4: I could not believe it had been so long for

1074
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 4: me personally, you know my part. Yeah, And it was

1075
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 4: such a moment, so iconic, so iconic. She have an

1076
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 4: impact the way she did. It's like you can never

1077
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 4: even imagine.

1078
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: No, you can never can She don't watch a true calling.

1079
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: She that type of impact doesn't even I don't, I can't.

1080
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: Does it exist today?

1081
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: I don't think it probably, you know, I see again,

1082
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: but there's something happening with Chapel Roone where we called

1083
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: it a while back, And that's not to take credit

1084
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: like for us, but it's just like what has happened

1085
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: in the past couple of months, and I noticed it

1086
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: from I've seen her live a few times now, Like

1087
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 2: over the months, it gets more and more intense. People

1088
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: are very emotional about it, and you get the sense

1089
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: that she really speaks to people. I think maybe if

1090
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't happened in film and TV now, it does

1091
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: happen in a time.

1092
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, the time. That's a good point, YEP.

1093
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 4: I saw one of her concerts in La right before

1094
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 4: she blew up.

1095
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: I think I saw you there. I was at the Fonda,

1096
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: wasn't it.

1097
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I did see you there, Yes, at the Fonda. Yes.

1098
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 4: It was incredible and it was just like you could

1099
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: tell by the energy in the room like I was.

1100
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 4: I saw the diehard fans, everybody was kind of dressed up,

1101
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 4: and then I would look at these executives like a

1102
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 4: bunch of people had gone to see her as the

1103
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 4: last I think it was the last job on her tour,

1104
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: and I just was like, Oh, something's happening tonight, Like

1105
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: something's happening tonight, like she's about to go up and off,

1106
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 4: up and off.

1107
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: Up and off.

1108
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: I went to both of her Brooklyn and Steel nights.

1109
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 3: I went to it was Your two nights at her

1110
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: first night. Was the only time I skipped a Tuesday

1111
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: writing night. I didn't skip, I just like took a

1112
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 3: break because talent people at us and now were like,

1113
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: we're going to see Chapel.

1114
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: Do you want to come with? I was like I

1115
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: got all right, but yeah, yeah. I didn't want to

1116
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: be there to like talk to them about like what

1117
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: would booking her be like, and like not that like

1118
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: again she should do the premiere? This is oh absolutely.

1119
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: This was not like me being like pressing my thumb

1120
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 3: on the scale being like you should be. I was

1121
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 3: just me being like, oh, I want to see you

1122
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: guys experience her.

1123
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1124
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: So I went with them, and during casual, I think,

1125
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: m hm, this person on the talent team turns to

1126
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: me and great shaker, love you.

1127
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: She turns to me, she goes she's special.

1128
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: She is.

1129
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, totally. Casual is a very special moment.

1130
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: When when everyone is actually living that like and I

1131
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: feel like everyone's singing it as if they've gone through

1132
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: the same thing.

1133
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that.

1134
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: I've never been in a relationship like that, but I

1135
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: am so fucking angry at the fictional person that put

1136
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 2: me through.

1137
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: I am angry. You can go that she is doing

1138
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: cathartic pop.

1139
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: My kink is karma is cathartic fucking pop, and justin tranter,

1140
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: I'm pointing at you. But like legend, but like much

1141
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: big feelings in the music and that good luck Babe Bridge.

1142
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: I told you so. They don't sing like.

1143
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: That, They don't sing like that, but she's but then

1144
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: on good luck Baby, it's like that's her giving the

1145
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: most cape Bush she's ever getten given.

1146
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 4: And then you were saying you saw her live and

1147
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: she really did hit that note of coach.

1148
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: Her vocals are not alive.

1149
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean I left that first concert being like this

1150
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: is when I saw the fond of the show we

1151
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: were at and tell me if this makes sense, But

1152
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: at the time, I said, it's giving Annie Lennox meets Kesha.

1153
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's like the only way I can really

1154
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: describe it.

1155
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 2: Like this, like soul f I see that pop sound

1156
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: like ethereal, but big voice and this idiotic sort of

1157
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: like ridiculous, like refusal to take herself seriously in a

1158
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: way that I loved so much because I think it

1159
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: reminded me of like being at the beginning.

1160
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 3: When like talk about Union Hall like I will always

1161
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: I will always cherish those days and I still love going,

1162
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 3: but it's like those were good days when like you

1163
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 3: could fuck up and fail and it didn't really matter.

1164
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you guys are around, we're doing Sandy and

1165
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: Peter are doing pig at Union Hall. Wow, we're just

1166
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 4: gonna be vibing. But this is this week, Yeah, thirteen gorgeous,

1167
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 4: but yeah, I feel you. I feel like the la

1168
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 4: version of Union Hall is very much the Virgil like

1169
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 4: the hot tub, hot tub of it all.

1170
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to do the picture of this sure,

1171
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: Like it's it's funny like some of the bookers from

1172
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: that time are still booking shows and they'll email now

1173
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: and I kind of say, like, I don't really do

1174
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: that anymore, but they're like, hey, and we know you

1175
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: don't really perform live anymore.

1176
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: But and just seeing that sentence like break my heart

1177
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, like and I think that truth though, well,

1178
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, I was that kind of person that was

1179
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't think of that. I think it was like

1180
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: really free.

1181
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: And then during the beginn in the years of the podcast,

1182
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: I was out there all the time, but we did

1183
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: more character stuff, Like we were out there like doing

1184
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: character driven stuff, and we did a lot of sketch

1185
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: and we took our sketch comedy very seriously. But then

1186
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: it translated into more individual performance. But by that time

1187
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: it kind of didn't really get the chance to develop

1188
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: because other things started happening. And now to know that

1189
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: I perform live for my Christmas shows and try to

1190
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: push everyone to there so they can do well. But

1191
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, you missed that, you know what I mean,

1192
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: you miss being able to go out there and like

1193
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: just it you feel easier about it, you know, And are.

1194
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: You still out there a lot?

1195
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: I am, Yeah, that I let the success and other

1196
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: things like stop that for me, and I envy that

1197
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: about you. You still have the raw passion for it

1198
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 2: and you're able to get out of your way and

1199
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm.

1200
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Going up there.

1201
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, do you feel like that comes from

1202
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 4: a place of like I don't feel the freedom to

1203
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 4: try new stuff. I don't I feel like I have

1204
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: to come with a finished product, because I'm going to

1205
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: be like evaluated.

1206
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: Is that part of the same way as you?

1207
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if I'm not, And.

1208
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: I have always been way harder on myself than everyone else,

1209
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 2: And I know you know what I'm talking about. And

1210
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: I feel like most of the time I'll be like, well,

1211
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm not prepared to do that, and then I'll go

1212
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: up and do it, and I'll understand that I was

1213
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: prepared the.

1214
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: Whole time, and I should stop myself.

1215
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 2: So that's just probably a reminder we should always just

1216
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: tell ourselves. It's like, you can do what you are prepared.

1217
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,959
Speaker 2: You've worked really hard.

1218
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 4: The way that I have tried to like foster a

1219
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: space where I can do this is by billing it

1220
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: as a new material show and being like, oh, this

1221
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 4: is loose, this is open mic vibes like come if

1222
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 4: you want, I should really you know what I mean,

1223
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 4: just like it's a new material show and just being

1224
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 4: like that's the vibe, or like literally if you even

1225
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: need to, And I mean I do this sometimes and

1226
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 4: it is kind of a cop out, but like I

1227
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 4: do sometimes go like okay, like I earned your trust

1228
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 4: with those, can I do a new thing right now? Yeah,

1229
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 4: it's like, you know, it's like it gives you a

1230
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: little more grace to like try it and then you

1231
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 4: know whatever. So but but yeah, I mean, but I

1232
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 4: just don't want to. I honestly, you guys. Guy Bronham,

1233
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: he's a writer on Hacks and he was one of

1234
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 4: my first days on set was a scene with him

1235
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,800
Speaker 4: where he was like the head of the Little Debbi's

1236
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: like Deborah fan club outside the pizza shop in season

1237
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 4: one and he said something to me that I never

1238
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 4: forgot and at the time it was so like out

1239
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine how it could ever become true. And

1240
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 4: then I saw like, oh yeah, I could see how

1241
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 4: this would become true. But he said because you know,

1242
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: he's a comic too, and he was like, I've seen you,

1243
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: like I appreciate your comedy. I really think you're great,

1244
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 4: and I don't want you to stop like you are

1245
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 4: now acting and that is a like, you know, that

1246
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: is far more glamorous than stand up and I he

1247
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: just was like, don't stop, because you're good and it'll

1248
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: be really easy to like, you know, this isn't a

1249
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: better life, Like going on the road is fucked up

1250
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 4: and it's hard no matter what and it's very isolating,

1251
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 4: and you know, you can be lonely, but like, just

1252
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: don't like walk away. And he said that to me

1253
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: the first day, and I at the time, I was like,

1254
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: I love stand up, How could that ever be true?

1255
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: And then I started to see, like, yeah, like it

1256
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 4: is fucking really brutal, and it's really a hard life,

1257
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 4: and it's one you know, if you can tour and

1258
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 4: be a headlining comic, that is an immense privilege. But

1259
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 4: you know, on a personal level, when you're sitting there

1260
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: looking up at the ceiling in the hotel room alone

1261
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 4: and you're like in a town and it's raining and

1262
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: you're just like kind of on your own, it's fucking

1263
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: you know, kind of sad. But every time I feel

1264
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 4: that way, I just remember what guy said, because like

1265
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 4: he is someone I look up to so much as well,

1266
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 4: and I'm like, if he's telling me that, I needed

1267
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 4: to hear it, it's a beautiful message, Like, and I

1268
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: just I don't want a let go of stand up

1269
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 4: because it's the only thing that like I really can

1270
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: do on my own and control. Like it really is

1271
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: like this beautiful, bountiful well of opportunity for me, and

1272
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 4: it always has been, and like I do have this

1273
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: like thing of like the comedy gods, Like the comedy gods,

1274
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 4: like if you appease them and make this sacrifice and

1275
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: do get on the stage, you know they will smile

1276
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 4: upon you. And like I have this like thing that

1277
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 4: I've always kind of had with that, and I feel

1278
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 4: like still I have to like pray at the altar

1279
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 4: of the comedy gods and you know, like continue to

1280
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 4: do that because it's given me everything that I have.

1281
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 4: You know, It's made it all possible. So I think

1282
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: that is probably a big reason why I have maintained

1283
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: like this love for it and doing this hour. I

1284
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: was very uninspired for like a year before I did

1285
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 4: the Hour because I just was like, I'm ready to

1286
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 4: put this out, but I still need to do it

1287
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: on the road and workshop it and get it in

1288
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: final shape. Ye, But I didn't feel like I was

1289
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: writing as much new material. And the second we locked it,

1290
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 4: like I just felt like new again, Like I felt

1291
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: like new possibility. I feel like the end of that

1292
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 4: project made it so that I could do fifteen minutes

1293
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 4: on driving. You know, I could talk about that, I

1294
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 4: could really open up and I could say like what

1295
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 4: is the deal with stuff?

1296
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: Again?

1297
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And that is really powerful.

1298
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: So this is so this is such an important Sponge moment.

1299
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: This all the way Sponge, especially to internalizing a Guy

1300
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 3: Brandham piece of wisdom is.

1301
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: Never a bad idea.

1302
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 4: One hundred unge ass.

1303
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: He's we gotta have him back on the pod. You

1304
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: do get the sense that, like the answer to all

1305
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: this is to just keep creating. Yeah, And I am

1306
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: sitting here and I'm like thinking about how and I'm

1307
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: like I do miss like not how stupid I used

1308
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: to be, but how brave I used to be, you

1309
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like it's like that's that like

1310
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 2: I'm a little yeah, you know what I'm saying. You

1311
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I totally know what you mean.

1312
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: And I'm about to say something that's gonna sound so.

1313
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Terrible. I feel like I feel like I was braver

1314
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: before this podcast, before us and now you.

1315
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: Know, well, I think like anytime there's eyes on you, yeah, yeah,

1316
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: of course there's also that. I remember there came a

1317
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: moment where like I like went back on Twitter or

1318
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: something was like like popping off on Twitter, just like

1319
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: tweeting like I used to tweet and the amount of

1320
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: like weird bad faith and like the weird takes on.

1321
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: It's just like, oh, this is why I got nervous,

1322
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: and this is why I'm less brave now, is because

1323
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: like people aren't as forgiving with like stupidity, it's harder

1324
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 2: to get things across. And also maybe people forgot people

1325
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: that follow me forgot that I am and this kind

1326
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: of brand of idiot, you know what I mean. But

1327
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: like like you're talking about, like in the beginning, like

1328
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: we would go.

1329
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: On stage in any old wig and do any old monologue.

1330
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 2: And like let it rip, and like sometimes it would

1331
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: be sometimes it would be good, sometimes it would be bad.

1332
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: But we always felt like we were creating after it

1333
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: and that was never the thing. Now it feels like

1334
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: creating means like did we sell a show, did we

1335
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 2: get did we book this thing? And that's like that's

1336
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: not creating, that's not being an artist. And also, like

1337
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes with this podcast, I can feel like

1338
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 2: we talk about art so much that that's like you know,

1339
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 2: why the Cultural Awards is fun or why this is

1340
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: fun or that's fun, because like.

1341
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: That's closer to who we are than like now. On

1342
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: track six of eternal sunshine. I thought what she was

1343
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: getting at was interesting because we know stuff and it's

1344
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: just like, where are the where are the fools? Where

1345
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: are the clouds? Where are the idiots? They're here, They're within,

1346
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: They're locked up.

1347
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: They are you, they are you. But I will say

1348
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: the Culture Awards like that is okay. First of all,

1349
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 4: I was there last year, I believe, and that was Woodstock. Okay,

1350
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 4: that was literally I was like, oh, time machine copy that,

1351
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: I'm in a time machine. I'm now in the past.

1352
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: This is Woodstock. Literally, this is no legitimately. I was

1353
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: so like, I have never seen a better crowd in

1354
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 4: my life before or since. Okay, that was insane. That

1355
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 4: was insane. And you guys are like writing that show

1356
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 4: in isolation, Like there is something to be said for

1357
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 4: that as a skill that you get to because you

1358
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: threw on the way, because you took her, because you

1359
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: went down.

1360
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: Every wig was a.

1361
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 4: And that for real, Like that is real, and that

1362
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 4: is an incredible skill to be able to pull off

1363
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 4: something that is so air tight with just within like isolation,

1364
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: and you're not like bouncing it off a crowd Like

1365
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 4: that is a beautiful thing and that is so that

1366
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: is a true deep connection that y'all still have, like

1367
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 4: even if you're like, okay, maybe I'm not doing you know,

1368
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: like I see that as as something that is so pure.

1369
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: Still it's just attached to you're always harder on yourself.

1370
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 2: That's what it is like every single week, you know

1371
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like you have to you probably have

1372
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: had to get a little bit better about it about

1373
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: what about like the amount of self emolation totally because

1374
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: it's just like you can't happen week after a week.

1375
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, And like I would say, identify I

1376
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: formerly identified as a perfectionist and have now loosened.

1377
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 1: That's identity sense.

1378
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 4: Where do you feel like you have landed?

1379
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 1: I am going to get at least five hours of sleep? Yeah, yeah,

1380
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: yeahs enough.

1381
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 3: I know it's not still it's still about it's still

1382
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: like a line totally. It's still something for me to

1383
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: be like all right, time to put this down.

1384
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: And you've associated amount of sleep with that idea of

1385
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: like you beating yourself up or like wondering what's enough?

1386
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so it's like it literally should not

1387
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 3: keep me up thinking about it, assessing it in hindsight,

1388
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: like all of it, like working on it.

1389
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: I love work. I love the process capital T, capital P.

1390
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: But I'm like, let's just set it.

1391
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: Down and it'll always be better in the morning, when

1392
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: we have a fresh out of like anytime you run

1393
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: on Tuesday, it's like, Okay, I don't know what this is,

1394
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: but let's look at it in the morning, and it's

1395
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 3: and then like it's means celestium like laughing, laughing, laughing,

1396
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 3: like typing type typing on zoom, and it's like I

1397
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 3: love that so much.

1398
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: But the actual process of being like a little fair creator,

1399
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: a little fairy creator.

1400
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: But you know, like.

1401
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 3: Especially now, I feel like and I think you guys

1402
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: probably understand this too, like perfection, Like perfection is a

1403
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: little overrated.

1404
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: It's like it's nice when it's it's rough.

1405
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 5: You know.

1406
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 3: I kind of don't have that perfectionist like hindsight when

1407
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that could have been better, that kind

1408
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 3: of better anymore, because I'm just like, no, I kind

1409
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: of like that, especially on us. And now it's like

1410
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 3: it's nice that there's this like weird sort of error

1411
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: and stimulus in the way that it is like made,

1412
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 3: in the way that it's performed. It's like this is

1413
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 3: so unpolished because there is no other way to polish this,

1414
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 3: there is no time to polish this, and so therefore

1415
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: this is what you get, and here it is, here's

1416
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: your product.

1417
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: I enjoy.

1418
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 4: I wish everyone could see what I saw, because I

1419
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 4: cannot overstate how going to the show just the weight

1420
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 4: of this thing. It like it just took like my

1421
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 4: understanding of it to a whole new level, and I

1422
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: like I wish everyone knew, and in some small ways

1423
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 4: through listening to this podcast, I feel like people get

1424
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 4: a look into it, but like to be able to

1425
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: see the inner workings of this.

1426
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: It's so hard, it's amazing what we do is like

1427
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: it's just purely emotional, I.

1428
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 4: Think, I mean, just the demand, Like sure, you know,

1429
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: like the demand and the pace and it's exciting and

1430
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: it's incredible, but it's just like I go, yeah, I am.

1431
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 4: It puts into context how much of a mere mortal

1432
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 4: I am and how much like you guys are operating

1433
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: on such a higher level.

1434
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: That's nice.

1435
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: I feel like we're all like we're all on the

1436
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: same level here of like we get emotional about the

1437
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: things that we make, and so therefore, like no matter what.

1438
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 1: No matter what the context is. Yeah, of course it is.

1439
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here thinking like there's some confronting going on,

1440
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: like of self, and I'm like, that's probably why I've

1441
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: done that same fucking Christmas show for six years.

1442
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: Not that it's like not that it's like the same.

1443
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: It changes every year and I get better every year.

1444
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: But now I'm fully like Matt Rogers, if you don't

1445
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 2: write a new show, if you don't write a new material,

1446
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: I am disappointed in you. Like I will be disappointed

1447
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 2: in myself if I don't create something new, because I

1448
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 2: have and it's almost like comical now. And that's part

1449
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 2: of what makes that idea funny to me, is like

1450
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: it comes back every year like Christmas. But I'm like,

1451
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 2: stop using it as a.

1452
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: Crutch, you know what I mean. That's like me genuinely

1453
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: telling myself.

1454
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 2: Like these things you have to stop using them as crutches,

1455
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: and like, I don't know, it's just we needed we

1456
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: needed sponge today, we need I needed to tell myself

1457
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 2: that anyway we need it, just like we all at

1458
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: this point in our careers and in our lives, like

1459
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: we're so lucky to even have retrospect, but you do

1460
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: have to force yourself to change because it's that comfort

1461
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 2: in like the quote unquote success that can get you

1462
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: to a certain place, like you know what I mean,

1463
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: Like you blessedly won't be at SNL forever one day,

1464
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: like you know you'll have another role that is different

1465
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: from hacks, Like if I I'm any good at what

1466
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: I do, write something new at some point, you know

1467
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like and but there it is nice

1468
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 2: to get to that point totally, Like it almost feels

1469
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: like no, not everyone like gets to say, like what's

1470
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: the next act going to be?

1471
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: Ye, like it's a really exciting thing it.

1472
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 4: Is, and reframing it as exciting and it's not like

1473
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 4: it's not a negative judgment on you if you don't

1474
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 4: do it. It's more so like I can do it,

1475
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 4: and I'm excited to do it, and like I and

1476
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: the audience deserve more and I deserve to feel connected,

1477
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 4: you know that spark when something's new. There's nothing like it,

1478
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 4: Like you deserve to feel that feeling, Like we all

1479
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 4: as artists crave that feeling. And it's like when it

1480
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 4: comes from you a gifted artisan, like you're operating on

1481
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 4: a higher level as well, like by virtue of like

1482
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 4: the things that you have done and who you are

1483
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 4: as an artist, Like that is exciting, and we all

1484
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 4: want to feel that. I watching you want to feel that,

1485
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 4: and I want to watch you feel that, you know

1486
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. I like to watch you know what

1487
01:08:58,160 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1488
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 2: This is another reason why though, that like the older

1489
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 2: generation of comedian is like it bumms me out so much.

1490
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 2: Is because it's like, I know, when they say shit

1491
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: like that, it does get in people's heads a little bit,

1492
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: like when the industry constantly tells you like, oh, we

1493
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: don't want this type of show, or like this type

1494
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 2: of thing isn't working right now, especially like as it's

1495
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 2: getting worse and worse, like and harder and harder for

1496
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 2: like marginalized voices. Again, you know, we're officially you know,

1497
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 2: it's not like twenty fourteen anymore where they're like, what's

1498
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 2: the what's the deal with this queer thing?

1499
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's like it's kind of

1500
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: more difficult again.

1501
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: That is something I resent, you know what I mean,

1502
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:35,759
Speaker 3: because yeah, it is in response to like these uninformed opinions.

1503
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah they're shouting us down, Yeah, you know what I mean.

1504
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 2: And that feels like so opposite of the spirit that

1505
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: I know uplifted our entire peer group and like it

1506
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 2: that I guess does piss me off that it's like

1507
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 2: you're trying to make us afraid to do what we

1508
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,959
Speaker 2: do because you're trying to tell us, as an authority

1509
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,799
Speaker 2: figure that you know better and that you see the future.

1510
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: But you don't see the future. You can't even participate

1511
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 2: in the present. So why should the function I listen

1512
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 2: to you about what the future is or like what

1513
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: the past even was. You had you perspective on that too,

1514
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 2: So like, why are you trying to make it an uncomfortable,

1515
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: scary atmosphere.

1516
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 3: New John Waters Coaches dropped in an interview, and this

1517
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: supplies to us, me and you once you turn third,

1518
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 3: each shut up just to just stop talking.

1519
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 4: Actually major, Well, I'm twenty nine, so I have one.

1520
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bit more time. You got about

1521
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: a year. If anyone's favorously, Oh my.

1522
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 4: God, that was so awesome. It was in that chair.

1523
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 1: She was in that chair when she rocked the world.

1524
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:38,919
Speaker 4: That was crazy.

1525
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 2: Did definitely get in the head that went hard. Yeah,

1526
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: but she she's the smartest, she's like, so it's just

1527
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: like it is what it is.

1528
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: Well, it's not every time. I don't think so, Honey.

1529
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 2: Just sort of that one minute segment bo when you

1530
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: say or you rant and rave against something in pop culture,

1531
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: that definitely make a noise. Okay, So I have something

1532
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 2: and it's sort of it's sort of a sequel to

1533
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 2: one that I did a while back. It's even the

1534
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: same words, but it's different content.

1535
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, Okay, this is Matt Rodgers.

1536
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: I don't think so, Honey's time starts now once again.

1537
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: I don't think so, Honey. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez critics.

1538
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: Do you think that they wanted this? Do you think

1539
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: that they wanted to get back together and then have

1540
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: it dissolve in this way? Guys, please, they are both

1541
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: trying the best they can. Maybe they don't even know

1542
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 2: how to try the best they can, but they're definitely trying.

1543
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 2: I have to say, like the amount of attention they get,

1544
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: of course, it's their responsibility a little bit, like they

1545
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like they they don't traffic in

1546
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: it a little bit. But this can't be what they wanted,

1547
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 2: and so don't pile on the people. You know what

1548
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean they want to be happy, just like everyone else.

1549
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: We all saw the movie, and by we all, I

1550
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 2: mean however many people out there that actually streamed it

1551
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 2: like we did, but we can in the culture.

1552
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: And I don't think there was like a false bone

1553
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: in that.

1554
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: I think she really genuinely thinks this is all the

1555
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 2: things that we're gonna make her happy, and it didn't

1556
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: work out.

1557
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: So don't punch the woman when she's down.

1558
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: She had to cancel the goddamn tour, Like do you

1559
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: know it's so it's that that was the last resort

1560
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: canceling the tour, Like just leave j Lo, b and Ben.

1561
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: I let him get his dunkin Donuts and peace. Clearly

1562
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 2: the man is like just wants his dunkin Donuts, you

1563
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So I say, swiped a card.

1564
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's got, like, you know, a certain card

1565
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 2: there that gets like VIP status. Swipe the card, Ben

1566
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: and Jlo You're gonna be okay, just take a break

1567
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: and that's one minute. Yeah, Jayla's going through it right now.

1568
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: In every way.

1569
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 4: I just people treat their I.

1570
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: Like you.

1571
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 4: They're not zoo animals, guys and kids and yaff like

1572
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 4: we not so crazy.

1573
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: It's just like that.

1574
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: And I remember, I remember I said years ago, I

1575
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 2: don't think Santy ben afflegain Jaylo critics let her get

1576
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 2: her best nut. I feel like she really she followed

1577
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,760
Speaker 2: her heart back to her best nut. And how can

1578
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: you blame her for doing that?

1579
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1580
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: Like in times of struggle, we sometimes will just go

1581
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 2: back to our best nut and it's a reminder. And

1582
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: maybe she didn't have the person a reminder, but don't

1583
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 2: just go back to your best nut, because the best

1584
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: nut is a nut that stopped for a reason, you

1585
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yea yeah, And it's like this

1586
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 2: actually can be a great reminder to everyone, Like just

1587
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: because it was your best nut does not mean that

1588
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the nut.

1589
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 1: It can't be the final that but you can't.

1590
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 3: Jlo will not sponge that because she doesn't want to,

1591
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 3: because she's like, is a nan it's romantic.

1592
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 2: She wants that fantasy, I know, And I wonder when

1593
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: she'll realize that the fantasy is not something that can

1594
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: ever be real.

1595
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: But it's like, wow, she figures it out, you can't like.

1596
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: And I also wonder, like how much of it is

1597
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 2: them like being photographed without the ring and like trafficking,

1598
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 2: and that's sort of like two thousands paparazzi mentality that

1599
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: maybe some.

1600
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 1: People think is still a thing to engage in.

1601
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: But I'm like, the whole thing is exhausting and also

1602
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,759
Speaker 2: like we don't need the narrative, the press narrative again,

1603
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: like and like the whole thing is just like I

1604
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: really thought they wouldn't break up, and.

1605
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: Now that they are, I'm like, oh no, we all

1606
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: got it. We all got it, We all got everybody.

1607
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 4: But that was exciting in the beginning, wasn't That was

1608
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 4: really fun for us.

1609
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: Because it made you believe that it could happen again.

1610
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: I remember I even said on this podcast, like that

1611
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: really fucked me up, knowing that they found each other again.

1612
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: And Bowen Yang was like, well, and now we found

1613
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: out where the le divorce.

1614
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: All we can say is that we hope Jennifer Gardner

1615
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 3: is doing well and protecting her peace.

1616
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: Probably doing good, I know, but she's I I do

1617
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 1: want to She's in.

1618
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,919
Speaker 4: The garden, she's overalls, dirt on the overalls.

1619
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like she must not be feeling great things either.

1620
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: She must feel so complicated about all of that.

1621
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 4: Father were kids, Yeah, what are they going through?

1622
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 1: You know, my god, it touches everybody.

1623
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: You know. You mentioned Jennifer Garner in the Garden. Have

1624
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 2: you ever noticed that Jennifer Garner does a lot of

1625
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: movies where like her kids are plants or her plants

1626
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: are kids, Like a lot of times, Like she definitely

1627
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 2: did a movie where her kid was a plant and

1628
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: then like she was upset when the plant died because

1629
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: it was her kid, and it's like, well, you know,

1630
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: the kid is a plant. I think it was The

1631
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 2: Odd Life of Timothy Green. Just feel like often times

1632
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: Jennifer Garner is in a film where her kids are

1633
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: in mortal peril or dead already or like gonna die

1634
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: because they're.

1635
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 1: A plant, and it's gay love Simon. Yeah, So that's

1636
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like kid and emotional. You can breathe now, Simon.

1637
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: Like she clearly is someone whose heart is like touch

1638
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: that by like I want to do a movie about

1639
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 2: the power of like me protecting my kids, love for

1640
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 2: my kids. So at least that you know what I mean,

1641
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 2: Their mom is rock solid. Daddy and stepmom figure it

1642
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: out right.

1643
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: But she she has been she has seen every angle

1644
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: of motherhood. Yes, and she knows how to direct that

1645
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 3: in the best way for her children to it.

1646
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: From both sides.

1647
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 2: Now you ready bowen, Jevin. I don't think so wanted

1648
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,959
Speaker 2: to do well, this is good, this is bangs.

1649
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Twenty time starts now.

1650
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 3: I don't think so money packing shoes in luggage. It's

1651
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: taken up two thirds of my space all of a sudden,

1652
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 3: for one hair.

1653
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: One hair.

1654
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 3: And the best I can do to stuff into that

1655
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 3: shoe is maybe a pill case, maybe a glass's case,

1656
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: maybe a toothbrush if it's being covered. But shoes in

1657
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 3: suit We have to think of a better way to

1658
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 3: travel with shoes because they the footprint literally is too big.

1659
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: It's too big in the suitcase. And I don't that

1660
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: means I do not pack my portable steamer.

1661
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: Oh, Hannah's got a stomper, and I bet you didn't

1662
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: love solving me that A little puzzle in your away

1663
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: bag maybe whatever whatever your luggage is. I just think

1664
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: we need to I can't believe technology is not advanced

1665
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 3: enough to solve for this. I don't know what we

1666
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 3: have to do. There's certainly no political section to this.

1667
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: I'm not confident or hopeful in a technological one. So

1668
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 3: I think we just need to invent something that's smaller

1669
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 3: than shoes, but we can wear on our feet.

1670
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: And that's a minute. Like, I guess we're gonna have

1671
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: to figure out how to fold up a shoe.

1672
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: We need a foldable shoe also because they are the

1673
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: last thing you think to put in the bag, because

1674
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I need my sweatshirts, my socks, my

1675
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 2: underwear and my this, and then you're like, oh god,

1676
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: because then you know, it is always an acrimonious between

1677
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 2: like the dob kit and the shoes. Oh know what

1678
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 2: I mean, they're fighting the fighting, they're fighting for time.

1679
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: The piece of the pie is.

1680
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: That's all right, So how did it go? Were you

1681
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 1: able to get everything back? Well?

1682
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 3: I have to say all I had were white sneakers

1683
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 3: play and white sneakers for Fire Island, and these black

1684
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 3: I'll say, like loafers.

1685
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you wore some pretty sick loafers on the island.

1686
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: But that's not the ideal shoe situation. Period. No matter

1687
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: where you go, you want, you want at least three

1688
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: pairs of shoes with you, don't You I do.

1689
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 4: And and this is you're not checking, You're you're on

1690
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 4: a faery. How do you get the fire on take?

1691
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: You gotta take a fer So, so what if it

1692
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 4: is the like the zipper bag that goes over the

1693
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 4: handle of the luggage, and that's just shoe bag, it's

1694
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 4: shoe toiletry bag. Interesting, it's a secondary bag. That's my

1695
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 4: only that's my first thought.

1696
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: Thank you and thank you and thank you for like

1697
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: thinking of of that. I think we should all meet

1698
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 3: at some point NASA at NASA to figure out a

1699
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,759
Speaker 3: foldable off the guys, girls, guys and girls.

1700
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: And whoever is working there. We're coming down.

1701
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: The worst is when you have tried to figure out

1702
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 2: and and finally figuregued it out like a spot for

1703
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: that like third pair of shoes, and then they never

1704
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 2: get worn on the trip, and then you're like, oh god, like,

1705
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: do you remember those blue loafers I wanted to wear?

1706
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: You didn't wear them?

1707
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 2: No, Because I actually, like I was excited about the

1708
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: blue loafers that I honestly forgot I had. They were

1709
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 2: in the back of my closet. They're cute, and then

1710
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 2: I just didn't have an outfit that they would go with,

1711
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 2: which I didn't think when I was packing up. I

1712
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: just thought, Wow, my loafers fit, and I didn't look

1713
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 2: at the corresponding closed to see if anything would make sense.

1714
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: And then I go to Bowen Yang, who I trust

1715
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 2: very much sartorially, and I look at him and I say,

1716
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 2: do these loafers work or are they too much? And

1717
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: to his credit, he really tried. He looked at me

1718
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 2: and he was like yeah, and then he goes, maybe

1719
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 2: too much, and I was like too much? And they

1720
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: never got worn, right, But.

1721
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 3: You packed them and you did not pack to coordinate

1722
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 3: with the shoe because you were so worked up and amazed.

1723
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,120
Speaker 3: But you were so amazed the shoes literally fit. And

1724
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 3: so that is the wind. That is the victory.

1725
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: I don't have to think of anything else.

1726
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I have started to do the like fitting

1727
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 4: before the packing. Where I'm going, I'm creating outfits, I mean,

1728
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 4: and that's the luxury of time, of course, but if

1729
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 4: you can get if you can work that in, that's

1730
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 4: just going. Here is the pant, Here is the shoe.

1731
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 4: These are the shirts, right, These are the shirts, and

1732
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 4: so that kind of consolidates and it's like it's two shoes.

1733
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: This is the one I'm wearing on the planet's bulkier.

1734
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 4: The other one goes, you know, in the suitcase. That's

1735
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 4: that's how I've been been doing it.

1736
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an expert at this point. You've been

1737
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: on the road.

1738
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 4: Look, you know, folks, I'm going really small bag on

1739
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 4: the road. Okay, you got to have economy going on.

1740
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 1: You're usually not checking, never, never checking. Well, because it's

1741
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: adds so much time, so much time.

1742
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 4: I'm flying the day of the first show. Yeah, I'm in,

1743
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 4: I'm out.

1744
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: Period.

1745
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: I also feel like we need to stop the culture

1746
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 2: of going at putting an outfit together. Shirts forward, pants, well,

1747
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 2: start from the pants, Start from the pants, or start

1748
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 2: from the shoe. That could be a moment and a half,

1749
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: ground up ground speaking of them, But isn't it tragic

1750
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 2: that you might be limited to two shoe options in

1751
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: a given trip, That's all I'm saying. And then here

1752
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: I am with a third pair that are perfectly lay

1753
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: but I just didn't have anywhere to wear them.

1754
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 4: Ah, it's brutal.

1755
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: It's brutal. It was brutal. What a brutal trip.

1756
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 2: That was a moment and a half. This is going

1757
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: to be a minute and no half. This is a minute,

1758
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: which is I don't think so, honey, this is your

1759
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: sort of moment. Are you ready for this? I have

1760
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 2: to be ready and that's actually dead ass. Yeah, cyana Einbinders,

1761
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.

1762
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey. Stubbing my toe, Oh no,

1763
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 4: that hurts you, guys, I'm going ouch, that's what I'm saying.

1764
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying ouch. I'm screaming in pain. So you're telling me,

1765
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm on my way somewhere, I'm trying to get something.

1766
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 4: I'm actually typically in a rush, and I'm stubbing my

1767
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 4: toe and nothing's ever hurt more. I've broken bones, I've

1768
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 4: broken bones. I'm fallen from heights. You guys know my past.

1769
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 4: I explored that very extensively on this podcast episodes. I've

1770
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 4: fallen from heights. I know pain, and no pain is

1771
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 4: more severe than the ancestral pain that rages through the

1772
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 4: foot when you stub the toe. I don't think so, honey.

1773
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 4: Stubbing your toe on the side of the thing that's

1774
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 4: never been sharper shut? What is up with the sharp

1775
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 4: stuff around me? I'm stubbing my goddamn toe and the

1776
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 4: big toe. I'm not walking around if I lose access

1777
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 4: to that. It doesn't stop hurting, It doesn't alleviate the pain.

1778
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 4: The pain is persistent. And I'm just supposed to keep

1779
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 4: walking around here. But I can't. I can't live in

1780
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 4: this world. I don't want to live in the world

1781
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: where I'm stubbing toes all the time. I don't think so, honey,

1782
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 4: stubbing your toe and that's it.

1783
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 2: And I think we all felt that like energetically, and

1784
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: we also all felt that physically because at one point,

1785
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: but what just goes?

1786
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh? And I could tell it was because he was

1787
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 1: having a flash. I had sensed memory flashback. But why

1788
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: does it hurt like that? Well? Anytime I stub my toe?

1789
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 3: You know what I first thought is, if I'm in

1790
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: any sort of physical accident that hurts any other part

1791
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 3: of my body, I will perish. I will pair it

1792
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: my body well, will will not know how to process it.

1793
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 3: That it is the deepest pain anyone's ever felt when

1794
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 3: I stiffed my toe. Yes, and I get it makes

1795
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 3: me And as you were saying this, I how twisted

1796
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 3: is it that my thought was, well, we should eliminate corners.

1797
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,639
Speaker 1: I almost thought, touching to you, you should baby proof

1798
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,959
Speaker 1: your house if you're that concerned.

1799
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: And then down the road it's already done if you

1800
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 2: ever want to have kids, like, it's already babyproofd I

1801
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: baby proofed it for myself because I remember that's what

1802
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 2: it was like.

1803
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: It's you know what it is.

1804
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: It's from like the paper cut school of senseless, worthless pain.

1805
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: It's just like why, it's so stupid. It's not even like,

1806
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: it's not even like, yes, one time I was in

1807
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: an accident and as a result I learned something. It's like, no,

1808
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: I got a paper cut. Now I'm in pain for

1809
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 2: a stupid reason because I'm so dumb. I could barely

1810
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: hold paper.

1811
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: I was so it was it was such a such

1812
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 4: a page turner that I'm slicing my fing the weakest

1813
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 4: substance a piece of paper. That's the most bullshit thing

1814
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 4: in rock paper scissors, and now bleeding.

1815
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: It's like, come on, not for nothing but your toe,

1816
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 2: something you barely need. Is getting careful now what I mean?

1817
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 2: Some people need their toes, you.

1818
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 4: Cind, I mean, isn't there that right you? I don't

1819
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: want to speak out a turn you might need you

1820
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 4: might need them. It's just like you could walk in

1821
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 4: It's like if you lose the you know, it could

1822
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 4: impair balance.

1823
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,600
Speaker 2: When I had athletes foot, I wanted to cut my

1824
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: foot off. No, I had athletes foot so bad. I

1825
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: heard I thank you that I wanted to cut off

1826
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 2: my foot. I felt like that would be preferable. You

1827
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: remember what it's like to have an injury from from

1828
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 2: the billion back in the day. You ever get like

1829
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 2: ten iish or something. My god, I had got so

1830
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: bad one time, I was like, take my leg, take

1831
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: it out, take it off, pay gato. I would rather

1832
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: not have this part of my body than experience the paint.

1833
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: And when you stub your toe.

1834
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 4: Oh, I've broken toes, it's the same feeling. Are you

1835
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 4: broken fingers? Oh yeah, how many breaks I've broken fingers.

1836
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 4: I've broken this elbow. I broke several toes, and it's

1837
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 4: the same feeling.

1838
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,879
Speaker 1: You're so. I've broken this arm twice in my childhood.

1839
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Same pain.

1840
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 4: It's the same pain, you guys. I can't even say,

1841
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 4: there's nothing worse than what that is.

1842
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: Broke, nothing worse.

1843
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm just scared because you just said I've broken bones, eye,

1844
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: broken bones, and now I have to say out loud,

1845
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: I've never broken a bone, and that is something you never.

1846
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Said because my side and I'm gonna get hit no butt,

1847
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt just as bad as you.

1848
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 4: You don't know what. You can't do it.

1849
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: Don't do it, don't do it.

1850
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 3: You've gone this long, You're not gonna can I just

1851
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 3: say on the paper cut note, on the paper cut note.

1852
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 3: This is the only time you'll catch me saying thank

1853
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 3: God for screens. I don't miss the stuff. I don't

1854
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 3: miss the sheets. Oh ship, keep the rings at home.

1855
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 3: Wait the screen like.

1856
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: Like screen prefer like like like phone. I'm sorry, should clarify.

1857
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: I thought you meant like a screen door. No, I'm

1858
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 1: saying like digital everything. Well, you've blessed you these horror stories.

1859
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,639
Speaker 1: Get the documents away.

1860
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you've heard these horror stories about people just

1861
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 2: walking into glass doors. You've heard the horror stories. There

1862
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: are so many people out there, that's an epidemic. Some

1863
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 2: people are so good at cleaning their windows and doors

1864
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: that you cannot see them from being seen through. So

1865
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 2: you'll go right into your flocko whatever that the owl

1866
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 2: flock of the owl who died by crashing into a

1867
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: building a glass.

1868
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: A terrible story, so sad. But birds everywhere are doing this,

1869
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: crashing into buildings. It's so terrible. Have you ever really

1870
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,560
Speaker 1: been there when a bird hit a window? No, I

1871
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: don't want to think about it.

1872
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I can't.

1873
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: Well, we were talking the other day about how birds

1874
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: are so amazing.

1875
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 4: Oh my god. Crows please, crows, crows love them. Crows

1876
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 4: are highly intelligent, highly intelligent they are. They can remember faces,

1877
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:01,799
Speaker 4: they can do tasks. No, crow are crazy.

1878
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: I have a joke.

1879
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 4: Go ahead.

1880
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: What do you call it?

1881
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 3: When a crow tries to throw a party but no

1882
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 3: one comes? An attempted murder?

1883
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: It's really good?

1884
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 2: Is that good? Hey? Hey?

1885
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: Hey? I was cinderellas? How bad? It's sports? Why runs

1886
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: from the ball?

1887
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: Yo?

1888
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 3: I want like that kind of that needs to make

1889
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 3: a comeback, that kind of set up punchline, lappy tappy ship?

1890
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: Yes, what here we go?

1891
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 4: Is a pirate's favorite letter R? You'd think it be R,

1892
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 4: but tis the C that he loves.

1893
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: That was elect.

1894
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: Special.

1895
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 4: That's my opener with the murder joke.

1896
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: Could never know she could have?

1897
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 4: Wouldn't letter.

1898
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 1: Is in charge? Well?

1899
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 2: This has just been joyful, triumphant. In the words of

1900
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 2: a Christmas song, You.

1901
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 4: Guys, thank you really truly for having me. I'm so

1902
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 4: number one fan vibes, and this is so genuinely the

1903
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,759
Speaker 4: true gift of my life.

1904
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 1: You are the true GT. Thank you God.

1905
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 3: So awesome fucking thing special, the show, the many things,

1906
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 3: the abundance of Hannah.

1907
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember, like I'm excited for you and

1908
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 2: happy for you, and I understand why you're here worth

1909
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 2: emotion because like it is like sharing a piece of

1910
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 2: yourself with everybody when you release that special. If you

1911
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 2: ever get lucky enough to do that, I'm sure you will,

1912
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 2: like whenever you really put something into an hour and

1913
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: then give it to people. So I hope you enjoy it,

1914
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 2: and I hope it's like a really beautiful the premierees night.

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01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna go, and I hope it's a beautiful night,

1916
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 2: and I hope that you can work on in the

1917
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 2: next few hours. Uh, taking all that love and just

1918
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 2: being like I'm gonna hold it because you deserved it.

1919
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 4: Well. When I hear it from the two of you

1920
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 4: and I look in your eyes, I feel it.

1921
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: We must have fun.

1922
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: Because the title episod would be Sponge maybe Sponge. We

1923
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 2: end every episode with a song, Oh my god, this

1924
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 2: is perfect because what were we watching in cherry Grill

1925
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: the other night last night? Who lives in a pineapple

1926
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: under the SpongeBob square bats.

1927
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: And yellow porns? Disease, SpongeBob square Bags. I'll know that

1928
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: there's something you went touch bare.

1929
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 5: A Benpongebob Ra, Sugebob square Bet, suge Bob square bets,

1930
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 5: Sungebob square Bets, Sungebob square beat, Do do do doo?

1931
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Why was that square pant? Why was that such emotional note?

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01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: If you see those sheet music, that is an emotion.

1933
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Pungebob square Everything to God, To God by Lost Culture.

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01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 3: Recis is in production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players

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01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,520
Speaker 2: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive

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01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: produced by Anna Hasnier and Hans Soni

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Speaker 3: Produced by Becka Ramos, edited mixed by Doug Dami and

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